.73 Caliber (12ga.) Lead Balls | The biggest balls of them all
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Today we test Denver's full-bore lead balls at the TFM private rifle range. Denver had some very specific things he wanted us to test and how these were loaded. Half of them using full-rifling and the other half through a smooth bore.
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Simple round balls have stopped many hearts over many centuries
Facts. Women are suckers for em.
How my wife became my wife.
Too many, much too many
Back in the day it was .75in at quite low velocities. Now it's .73 and easily 50 times what the .75 was producing with serpentine powder.
How is this different to Warwolf Pumpkin loads?
Can't believe you opened with Thunderstruck when AC/DC have a song called "Big Balls".
Either one works. They called them thunder balls, and they are _Big Balls_
Major flop
I just had to leave a link! 👍🏼😎
knowing Boob Tube, they'd get a copyright strike!
He even mentioned a line in the song at 1:36
The service you provide is stellar Jeff. The fact that you share it with us is truly priceless.
Nice balls! Danny handled them well! ;)
Ya beat me to it man. *:-)*
@@Dsdcain LOL!
great balls of thunder
LMAO
"I'm blind in one eye and deaf in the other" LOL! Danny cracks me up.
Dylan McGregor
😜😁. 🇺🇸😎
Please, keep doing the prototype stuff. Even if nothing exciting happens or they fail miserably. I still find it extremely interesting to watch anyway. There's not many out there doing this stuff, at least not with a proper high speed camera. It's really fascinating seeing how the different shapes and weights react at the speeds they are traveling, especially the weird stuff. Gives me ideas for things I tinker with on the side. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys taking the time to do this, despite being ripped off by the a**hole powers that be.
Yesssssssssss
This!
I absolutely agree!
I fifth this comment!
Liberal controlled media. The back stabbing bastards.
Thing is they loose money everytime they hack someone off. It proves they are idiots.
2" grouping at 50 yards is bloody impressive with a shotgun
4 M.O.A.
Totally, I’d use these.
If the ball fits the bore snug then its a basically like shooting an rifled musket. So accuracy is there
You can tell by how the smooth bore went so wide. Rifling makes a hell of a hell of a difference with solid rounds.
Yep. S'why rifled muskets started the ball rolling (sic) on projectile development
I have a .72 caliber muzzle loader, it uses 150 gr. of 3Fg.
You can look all the way down into the barrel from the muzzle end on a sunny day
and see the bottom of the breach. I killed two does with one shot, with the ball going all the way threw both sets of deer lungs, I never saw the smaller doe standing behind her in the tall grass. I called the DNR and they came and investigated me, they didn't believe me, until I put the gun in there hands, then wrote me a tag for the extra deer. The recoil on this rifled .72 is so stiff that after 2 shots your shoulder is begging your finger n0t to pull the trigger, and the fine set trigger (4lbs) feels like 10lbs.
I killed an elk with it at 100 yards, before I retired it.
I shot it +90 times hunting over the years, and had to repair the grip area cracks twice.
What always amazed me was the accuracy of the (550gr) heavy round ball.
Legend still has it that Danny is still trying to catch them shells
Legend has it your still trying to make a funny but can't
1.3 oz correct according to gun Jesus from forgot weapons, bore or gauge was originally a measure of how many round lead balls can be made from one pound of lead. A 4 bore rifle fires a quarter pound lead ball a 12 gauge would fire a 1.33333 ounce ball a 10 gauge would fire a 1.6 oz ball a 16 gauge a one ounce ball exc. The old timers simply used the opposite of cannon measurement instead how many pounds of lead the ball is how many balls can be made from a pound.
Actually is was pounds of iron.
I thought it was the diameter of a round lead ball multiplied by the number of the same that that weighed one pound in total that determined the gauge number . As you correctly stated 1.3333 x 12 =15.9996 ozs.
Hard round balls are tremendously lethal. Been used for centuries!
Lmao, Danny said I only got one in the pink!! He still got two in the brown..... Lucky man 🤣
One in the pink , two in the stink
Lmao, I wasn't sure British humour would travel, but EXACTLY what I meant 😅
LMAO!!!
Love the VB theme song in the background. You can get it shootin', you can get it rootin', as a matter of fact i've got it now!
A hard earned thirst needs a big cold beer!
@@H31MU7 and the best cold beer is Vic......Victoria Bitter.
All the manufacturers of insanely expensive “Superslugs” must hate this video. Modern shotgun barrels, rifle or plain, are so good, and virgin lead that is free from impurities so a ball is of even density, soba sphere of lead is potentially the most accurate and devastating projectile of all. Partner that with good quality reloading components and precise powder loads and I bet Danny could out-shoot anyone with a new-dangled slug.
It may not be the best looking ballistics gel on RUclips, but it's definitely my favorite.
The other day I ordered a 7/8oz lee slug mold and a roll crimper from ballistic products so I can start getting ready to reload slugs
I thought i saw a TFM vid where he said he had problems with the 7/8 ounce one's and the one ounce worked fine. Good luck with your reloading!
Don't kick yourself, Danny, that was some good shooting buds. I have a feeling that the rifled barrel also grabs the round ball and causes it to go straight down the barrel without shifting around, Jeff, I feel that without your photography so much more would be left up to conjecture. It reminds me of the Trinity Project and the development of the first Adam bomb, they had to film it in slow motion to study it and see what it was doing when detonated because it would all be over in a flash. You give us that same look into that brief split second. Keep up the good work. Dave.
The sound of the empty cartrige hitting the floor is so satisfying
Hey Mouse and Officer Greg and wild man Danny. Keep firing
Hey suck up keep sucking lol jk
james Hey jimmy it’s Your bed time
6:35 I hope Danny's eye gets its hearing back soon!
That whole thing just to figure what our ancestors did 300 years ago and i loved ever second. Keepem coming
As an Australian I approve Danny's hat in this video
I'm working on doing my own custom shotgun loads, like I just got wax slugs working constantly, and I'm going back through your older videos. When I do, I always feel sad seeing him back doing what he loved. R.I.P. Danny. We all miss you man.
I love how these are just some old ass dudes but with perfect humor. "i only got one in the pink... only need one in the pink.. just the tip lol" 9:15
Really get a sense of the heavy recoil while watching Danny go all legend with the 50 yard grouping. Wow that man could shoot! Sorry he's no longer with us. But I'm really enjoying going back in time, watching these videos. I really appreciate your attention to details. It hasn't changed a bit through the years. TFM ages like a fine wine 👍
Can’t beat that now. Great group Danny.
They shoot great for sure from the rifled barrel. Not bad at all. Mouse Wildman Danny and Officer Greg you boys have a great rest of the day GOD BLESS you all Amen.
Randle Richardson
Thanks Randle. How ya doing Bud? 😁. 🇺🇸😎
Danny AKA Triker Red I’m hanging in here like a curly hair in a biscuit brother. You all doin ok I pray Amen.
*Danny* taking more shoulder abuse for the TAOFLEDERMAUS team.
At least he got to have fun poking things with his finger since *OG* wasn't there.
Wasn't there or he knew and bailed.
Any hole’s a goal 😱
@@WineScrounger
Ok Trevor
Another fine expose on a slug that we should be able to cast with domestically produced molds. It's almost as if our mold makers are fearful of giving us full caliber slugs that would shoot with higher pressures. The accuracy with the rifled barrel and red dot optic makes that rig a game getter... Thanks for this video, Steve
Marty’s arms multi cavity round ball molds, has em up to .760” I believe.
You probably already know this, as your comment is 3 years old. But just in case you didn’t.
I lost it at the "SHÜT HERE" on the lead plate
Always great with a fresh TFL Crew upload :) Thank you for the videos and creator support!
I think you guys would make an awesome team :-D
3 words for you: 'spotting scope' 'binoculars'.
Also, I'm old, so I got the Jimmy Durante allusion--"I got a million of 'em".
Perihelion77 , ah cha..cha...cha...cha...cha...
I have a 12 gauge smooth cylinder bore Remington 5 shut pump shotgun patented in 1903. It doesn't even have a model number.
I inherited it from my father who inherited it from his father. His father fell down a hill with it, packing snow up the barrel. With the next shot, his father converted it from a full choke, 32 inch barrel shotgun into a blunderbuss. After his shoulder healed, he sawed the split funnel off the end of the barrel converting it to a 26 inch cylinder bore, remounted the front bead sight, lashed it to a tree and test fired some high brass through it.
After my father got into the 8th grade, his father died unexpectedly so he had to quit school to support his mother and sister.
Aside from a lot of odd jobs, one way that he made side cash was if he got word that he was needed, he would to walk to local farms and, for $5.00 apiece, he would put down rabid cows, bulls, horses, sheep, goats, dogs or what have you with that shotgun. $5.00 was a lot of money during the great depression back when 12 gauge slugs cost about a nickel. Not a bad return on investment.
One time, he found a steel ball bearing that looked to be the size of a 12 gauge slug so he took it home and dropped it down the muzzle of the shotgun. He said that it was a little lose but close so he rolled it back out, pulled the slug out of a shell and replaced it with the steel ball. He took it out to his mother's barn and fired. He said that it went in through the front wall, through the corn crib, through a workshop / tool room and out the back wall. He never did find that ball again.
Now adays, since I have had 6 major spinal surgeries on my neck alone and 5 more on my lower back, (last one in July 2023), with most of my spine fused, I can't shoot that gun much any more but my aim on close in shots from the hip are as good as it will get for home defense.
My son has gotten a deer every season with that shotgun since he was old enough to shoot alone on my property up until he got married and bought his own house. He lives within city limits now but he hopes to come back out here this season for another deer. I hope so too. We'll dress it and split it like other years. I also get all of the "unusable" scraps that I cut up and my wife cans for dog food. It's a real treat for my 2 dogs. My wife has 4 cats. He and his wife also have 4 cats.
Mighty big balls THERE Jeff, Danny did just fine n always a 10 outa 10 on the video. Thanks guy!
There's a video that shows a Tri-ball three stacked .53 caliber buffered round balls thru a smoothbore 12 gauge will group 2" at 25 yards and 5" at 50 yards all at once.
Those are amazing. He is a great shot. I always look forward to these videos!
been shooting round balls in .50 .54 and .58 for years in smoke poles. great video thanks.
3:50 😂😂😂😂 Danny is a savage. While the OG is away Danny will play. Just keeping it warm for ya
You only need one in the pink!! Good one Danny!!! Great video Jeff!!! Thanks!
Always a fan of you shooting balls!
There was an ad on this one.
I didn't have an ad before this video...RUclips is so inconsistent it's unbelievable how successful of a platform it is....
@@jakedunning9995 Depends on where you live i guess. I'm in Sweden and the ad was swedish.
@@jakedunning9995 because the platform is good, the people running it are just crazy
5:16. Irresistible force meet immovable object.
Unstoppable
🇦🇺👍Love the VB background music 👍🇦🇺
I have that same Mossy Oak hat Danny has. Great hats for outdoor activities and can soak up water good for evaporative cooling when it is hot out.
Great Video. Loved the Nod to AC/DC, Keep me comin, Taofleder-Mausketeers.
And the nod to VB.
I thank you for allowing us to observe your prototype testing.
Had an ad for black rifle coffee and I actually watched the entire things it was funny
The “RUclips Original” in the thumbnail cracked me up! So funny hahaha, love the millions of easter eggs on this channel.
Dang! @ approx 4 seconds; Danny!?! How's the shoulder?!? Holy cow, I felt that one! Holy grasshopper spit! (Keeping it family friendly folks😉)👍
AC/DC - You're a man of culture mate
Great video and testing guys, thank you!
"That's all it takes...one in the pink!" LOLOL! I sure hope Jeff is saving all of these little witticisms from all the guys and puts them in a video sometime.
This video was so amazing love the slowmo
Perhaps on occasion, you might do a Paul h style meat target with the more effective rounds?
Received my Taofledermaus T-shirt and mug. Cant wait to wear it to my next range visit.
The VB theme as the background music was a masterstroke
What would a simple red dot sight for the smooth bore run? Love this channel, fun with Danny and OG in a male-friendly environment all while playing with heavy-duty mass accelerators while Jeff plays with the hi-speed! Outstanding!!!
TrikeRoadPoet
About $100 give or take for the one I use. I don't use one on the smoothbore because I hunt upland bird with it. I could have interchanged the barrels but we couldn't waste too much time. Two videos done that same day. 👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
Great to see Danny in the Way Back Machine! Full bore round balls are the most accurate projectiles in my rifled shotgun barrels, and they hit like nothing else.
The Leadplate is my favorite RUclips celebrity I can't wait to see 😆
Many years ago now I thought this channel is a joke . It ant , I look forward to your postings and always learn something . Thanks
It seemed to me that the smooth bore did more damage to the gel and the lead plate than the rifled. As for Danny's accuracy, I'd say he had a off day with the smooth bore, past shows he has done quite well with it. As foe the name, Thunderballs fits concidering how loud they are and the bully recoil.
Haha haha the VB commercial music is legendary. Well played TAOFLEDERMAUS!
Those things were dead balls accurate. Not bad...pretty cool. I would not want to be be the target on one of those.
No, although that wouldn’t be a long term problem.
The thing about the lead plate, is that not only does it stop the round but it also, pretty much, stops the energy transfer to anything behind it. I don't think body armour, even it stopped the round, would save the life because of the enormous energy transfer/shock wave, concentrated to a fairly small point.
That's weird. I keep my big balls way down under too!
My kids love your show. They get all excited to watch "shooty stuff" with dad. Thanks a bunch!
Awesome! Thank you!
4:21 - 'Uh-h-h-h-h... I got a million of 'em!'
It's all in the angle of the dangle! A fascinating r&d video for us, many of which are not on the ball! Thanks TFM team!
I don't know what works harder, Jeff's wife's table or Danny's shoulder making these videos.
The AC/DC reference was a nice touch. 👍
Hope you saved some of these to send to DC some people up there need a trans plant or replacement, too bad they had to be imported from down under. 30 feet is a long way if you don't know what to expect good shootin as always .
You use these for .75 caliber (~11 gauge) muskets like the 1722 British Brown Bess. I have a reproduction Long Land Pattern "Brown Bess" .75 flintlock musket that was the British infantryman's basic arm from about 1740 until the 1830s. Since tactics at the time favored close range battles and speed over accuracy, smaller and more loosely fitting musket balls were much more commonly used. The Brown Bess had a barrel bore of .75 caliber, and the typical round used was around .69 caliber. Some modern shooters load larger .72 patched balls and then clean the barrels when they get fouled, or they just ram down unpatched balls when things get too tight for patches.
My most fun musket is a reproduction Swedish 1590 .75 matchlock and a French 2.5" (63mm) flintlock grenade launcher (that loads Coke cans and tennis balls) that narrows down to a .75 powder chamber.
So powerful it blew the chrono off the table...😂
I bought the .69 cal Lee Mold because that's all there was out there at the time. Slug molds are rare for some reason. I made several hundred round balls out of pure, soft, lead and load them over a stout load of Longshot using BPI's Brush wad, a double ended wad that works great with round balls as it helps to center them in the bore. The ones I have recovered show they set back and become full bore using the soft lead and out of a tactical shotgun are very accurate. In their blue extra high brass hulls with a roll crimp they are impressive to look at too.
Denver makes some cool stuff!
Those are some big balls. Also different shotguns pattern differently. With such a heavy slug the whip on those barrels are gonna be insane and a tiny difference in powder is gonna end you whip at different points when the slug exits. Barrel ballistics are a whole different level of ballistics testing and without a dozen fixed rigs and a sample size of 100 or more rounds at 50 plus loadings we can’t science this up super accurately. These criticisms aside Jeff and the boys do an incredible job and do indeed get some very important and impressive information considering the way their hands are tied with the expense and time constraints involved. (Time is honestly probably the biggest factor mostly because it costs way more then $150 gel block, $100 worth of ammo and $500 worth of shotguns as well as a $10,000 camera are nothing compared to the wages three grown men have to earn in lieu of working on a poor income making proposition like RUclips.)
I’m surprised that the ballistic gel manages to stay in one piece sometimes, it’s great to watch on the slow mo though 🤠
The gel blocks and bears "dancing" in slow mo is really fun to watch.
As a proud Aussie, when you started playing the Victoria Bitter them music, I actually cried a little bit. VB as a beer is nothing to write home about, but that theme music is such a massive part of my childhood, and dare I say it, my early drinking years. VB was the only beer you drank when I was in my late teens and early 20's. I still enjoy the very occasional one when I'm at the pub, just so I can see how far beer brewing in Australia has come.
Danny doesn't need optics... Danny IS the optics :D Blind in one, Deaf in the other... it all balances out in the end.
no need to explain or fluff for danny he is a fantastic shot there is a reason you have him there once again another great video and tell officer greg thanks for teaching the 4-h class all of the taoflederteam are awesome folk
I love seeing over-ripe men joking about balls for the whole world to see. Restores my faith in humanity 😂😂😂
Austin Colby Overripe ??????
Brown bess amoe. As an 18th century living historian I have fired many a round ball in comps. Thanks for these enteresting vids.
There was a ufo in the background at around 1:30 😅🤔
Greets from germany dudes✌
Well that was really fun to watch and very interesting! I love the prototype videos, please do more of them. Great job guys, have a great week and see you next time:D
Wildman Danny from down under
Ive been reloading.45 cal balls just one in low brass paper shells and just add some salt and ive had really good ballistics and accuracy out of a single shot 8 inch barrel
dear God . please let me win the lottery so I can buy Jeff some new ballistics gel .
Thanks for the 1980s memory Mr big balls .
How did you load these fellas? 2000 foot pounds of energy sounds good for bears.
And VB theme song in the background, nice one!
Out of the smooth-bore , the round ball may start moving like a knuckle -ball ?
A few years back ; we developed a 12 gauge ball round ; that spins backwards at the same angular speed ' as the forward speed of the round. Inside contains a solid core of depleted uranium. The calculated energy is double of a standard slug round traveling at the same speed and same weight.
Is only available to trusted friends of ours...
I love u guys n a not wierd way. You have become a staple please keep it up.
I've been watching Taofledermaus since the good ol sand mound days shooting at hard drives and such. It's sad when good channels like yours get hit with the demonetization. I will continue watching and liking your videos. Thanks for the great content I've watched your channel grow, and hope it continues to grow.
Great vid Gents, & here in England we got a Joe Bonamassa ad for Redemption! . . . are RUclips feeling OK?
As ever, nice shooting Danny . . . does your osteopath charge you by time or the total weight of projectiles fired? : )
Danny!!! Is the one who’s tenacious. Them punk’n balls got some kick.
"shüt here" - lol
I just love the VB commercial theme song playing in the background.
Good shootin!
haha, Danny seemed scared because he could not tell if he hit the target. Little did he know, he was right on bullseye, like always!
There's a reason the muzzle loaders that shoot round balls have rifling, you just reinforced it.
Jerry Stott the rifled shotgun also had an optic, so not really a fair comparison.
4:20 Two eyes and a nose?! When i saw that exit hole I immediately got a completely different mental picture. :-)
Hahaha Danny never never ever catches the spent shell when he ejects it
US Muzzleloaders (myself included) have used lead balls of approximately 0.730" to 0.735" diameter with 90 grains of 2F or 1F Black Powder in replica "Brown Bess" muskets using patches of 0.10" to 0.15" thickness. They are good out to 25 - 50 yards.