yeah its weird people don't remember the caps sylus play. That was the play that legit had people saying that caps, a european, could be the best mid laner in the world.
People were talking about that way earlier. IMO caps was the best midlaner if not player during msi 2019 in the entire world, he was so fucking cracked.
@@Cashmoneez Caps inted sometimes in 2019 lec but he played good worlds and msi. Feel like the reason caps had higher rep in 2020 was his 2020 summer where most of his team was slumping but he smurfed to win that split. Plus in 2019, he had the previous rep of being international choker from 2018 so people needed time to realize.
well 5 years experience total vs 13 years experience total makes a huge difference. Take random plat+ player, put him in time machine, give him good pc and good internet. He would attend worlds 2011. 2012 no problem and he would completely rewrite the history of league. 2013, he would probably be able to play in worlds but faker would destroy him regardless. Faker was so ahead of curve that he is historically incorrect to his times, it is like he is the time traveler.
@@oreoyo5639 It isnt about "more iconic" its about the G2 players basically saying it isnt an iconic play at all. Which the main majority of us does not agree with.
i mean he gained most of his followership thru beeing insanley toxic and beeing permabanned. yes nowadays he is an enjoyable streamer and wholesome person but he brought a really toxic part to the game for a huge viewership who just acted or still act like him ingame
@@joeh6587 cope lmao thats just what dumbfucks who want a reason to hate tyler1 say. the league playerbase isnt toxic just people of 1 guy and he isnt responsible for how people act
@@Bobby_Boozerpeople were toxic but t1 was only known for his toxicity in the early years. Nowadays he is a better person but before he would either carry or int, no in between.
@@Bobby_Boozer yes they were but those big streamers brought it too a much biggger audience and everyone even the guy in the bronze game thought if something is not going his way he just runs it or perma flames
G2 2019 IMO was the best most dominant / fun team even , they were literally rolling everyone, were the closest to the golden road I mean they were literally playing the most random picks and owning everyone
@@jacktaylor4241 fair. It can't ever really be mainstream like it's just not going to be for everyone. But like I said his like clips and 1 game videos is some of the funniest leage content I've ever seen he has that on lock
Yeah, Kesha is that guy that you see 1 or 2 tiktoks from ang go like haha this guy is crazy and then at the third and forth be like, damn he is actually good at the game, but after that it becomes quite unbearable and stale.
I actually agree with the league roster's take, they are specifically talking about a roster in a single year and 2019 G2 is definitely one of the most dominant team in a single year. To this day, they are still the only team outside of korea who had win against SKT in a bo5 in worlds. People who question this and go "wow sure LEC is important just like LPL and LCK", do you understand what makes a golden road and why do people hype about JDG so hard last year? Unironically speaking, 2019 G2 are the second closest team ever to the golden road, the first one being 2015 SKT when they win all year but lost in MSI finals. G2 did the same but lost in Worlds finals. They are literally the same as JDG last year, and JDG didn't even make it to world finals last year. I mean yes korea was not having the best two years during S8 and S9 but it is just a fact. If this is not a blind tier list and go by this standard it will have to be 2019 G2 - 2018 FNC (Spring Summer champs, 3-4th in MSI, 2nd in WCS) = 2023 T1 (Lost a lot of important BOs but at least have the ability to get to that point, LCK spring summer 2nd and MSI 3rd, World Champs) - 2022 DRX (Dramatic WCS title but nothing outside of that) - 2023 vitality (lol) Actually maybe 23 T1 and 18 FNC is kind of the same, depends on your bias (If you want to say LEC is a lower tier region tourney so 2 champs is less than 2 LCK 2nd place, I mean at least T1 are losing to GENG)
G2 is the only team outside of Korean to win a bo5 againts T1? Yeah LPL can't take them down at worlds, but beat them a lof of times during MSI. 2015 SKT was 1 game away from the golden road, but they lost at MSI, which means golden road is over for Summer and Worlds. Yeah if we look at how many games they need to make it they were closer, than 2019 G2, but timeline vise it was G2 to come the closest to the golden road. 2015 EDG was a good match into SKT and 2019 FPX had the same game style as G2 just exacuted on the plays better at worlds. I personally would rand T1 2023 an 2nd. There was no meta changes before worlds everybody role mostly played the same champion as they played in summer. They may have been 2nd behind Gen.G domestically, but they changed the whole worlds meta mid tournament to make it favor them and I don't remember a single team from history who was able to change the meta during an international tournament. For me 2018 FNC only arguement againts them is Caps had one of the most memorable Rookie seasons in the whole scene and the fact that they stopped the 2 year G2 dominance in EU at that point, but than again it shows how good of a player Caps is that ever since than FNC never won a title again.
@@R3alSt3al I woke up not too long ago before watching this video and typed the message so yes, I forgot to mention T1 losing to other region only happens in Worlds, it's either them losing to LCK teams (2017 finals) and then G2 (2019 semis). I mean who is stupid enough to say "G2 are the only team outside of korea who had win against SKT in a bo5" and then brought up 2015 SKT lost to EDG in MSI finals lmao Oh yeah me. Personally I agree, I probably should've edit my version to a FNC = T1 instead of a - because I am too lazy to copy and paste and switch them around, and I still think in this standard 2 EU LCS Champs still better than 2 LCK 2nd. Not in terms of the region's power because I don't want other people to spazz out on me, but they need to figure something out to beat GENG one day. From what I can remember, FNC's MSI that year was not great (4-6 in groups, 0-3 to RNG in semis) and again S8 Worlds is the year of korea falling off, the world champ last year SSG got a 1-5 score line and iirc is still the worst performance from a LCK team (I think they are still the only LCK team to drop out of the tournament before quarter finals, as for DK last year, the system is different so I can't compare), AFs got 0-3 by C9 making C9 the only NA team to reach semi finals ever (Not counting S1 cuz that is ancient), KT is the only team that is competitive but they have to face against iG in quarters. To this day I still think that was one of the best BO5s to watch, too bad it was quarters, if they swapped places with AFs I think FNC wouldn't get to Finals. As for 23 T1, aside from losing to GENG in the region, their MSI run is in fact not as bad, because they actually beat GENG in upper bracket semis, lost to JDG by 2-3 in upper bracket finals, and lost to BLG 1-3 in lower bracket finals.
Winning worlds is 70% of the golden road. It is not the same level of difficulty as winning 2 domestic titles and an MSI. To this date 2016 SKT is the closest team to the golden road as they won worlds MSI and spring split
Dom keeping going back in a BLIND RATE at “omg literally how is T1 still 2 OMG” Dom tries not to hate T1 and say that they’re good challenge actually impossible.
wining just several series in worlds at the end makes you good while struggling whole year cope harder t1 fanboy t1 is good but ain't no way t1 2023 is better than g2 2019
@@alexandernaydenov7539 "Sruggling whole year" LCK 2023 Spring T1 was 17-1, even beat geng in a bo5 once, then lost in finals. Get the facts right if you're gonna talk shit.
@@alexandernaydenov7539 t1 2023 was ups and downs for sure, but their ups were way higher than g2 2019 ups, and g2 downs were way lower than t1 2023 downs. Also, t1 in 2023 msi did fine? They got 3rd place, didn't get swept, and only behind 2 lpl teams, both of which were favourites even for worlds? Summer split I can agree, they did horrendous, but there's a clear reason for that, which I'm sure you know. (Faker didn't play for what, 8 games? 1/7 record without him or something like that)
Do people forget that 2019 G2 was by far the most dominant team in the world that year, closest team to date to achieve the golden road falling short at the very last BO5
@@SaraGon15 that literally does not matter, their golden road chances were gone before worls even started while G2 was 1 single BO5 away from completing it. You actually cannot think logically lmfao
@@OutshineUwU there was no Golden Road anyways they didnt win the major tournament, the others did who cares about "almost winning" to "winning", at the end of the day they just won MSI.
people have to understand that tyler1's entertainment value isn't only tied to him playing league. that man is a freaking showman-always high on energy in every event, pulls up numbers playing variety, and etc. just on pure entertainment wise, he should easily be number 1. only caedrel comes close to him on that list tbh
16:25 honestly if you can get a really good Döner Kebab it's heavenly, they are not made equal so sometimes you come across bad ones, it's not a very consistent fast food imo because you have to find the right place.
As a Turkish guy I agree that Korean Fried Chicken is number 1 as well in this list. But other type of Kebabs clears any food you can imagine, döner kebab is just the simplest kebab of all.
Any NA player(besides DL) gets disrespected by EU fans/players, same thing happened at recent events until TL wiped the floor with them 2 times in a row
@@takumifujiwara300 Turtle played professionally for like 8+ years bro and had lcs wins at the early part of his career. Message back in 6 years and tell me where yike is at after he gets replaced by an ERL player in a year
Kesha Rose Sebert (/ˈkɛʃə ˈsiːbərt/; born March 1, 1987) (formerly stylized as Ke$ha) is an American singer and songwriter. Kesha's first major success came in early 2009 when she was featured on rapper Flo Rida's number-one single, "Right Round".
The world finals is all that matters. In real sports they dont care if you win all of your playoffs and then lose the best of 7 in the finals. The ultimate goal is worlds, period.
Maybe you are not the biggest lol streamer but I think you are the most knowledgeable one and your content is the most insightful. You were a proplayer, you keep reaching challenger, you've been around the scene since forever and almost no one else watches competitive as much as you do. There's a reason why pros ask you for advice and not other content creators.
@@YashKumaroff keep your idiotic twitch lingo to yourself. IWD said many times he thought JDG was the best league team ever. They and every other LPL team got beat by 2023 T1. So the best league team ever and the strongest region got beat by the 3rd or 4th best team ever? Patently stupid.
@@IWinniethePooh funny I don't even use twitch, and unlike ur clownass I am not hanging on to some one year old take as if he did a war crime ahahahah....... U can't even understand why they actually won worlds but that's ok I suppose
@@IWinniethePooh funny I don't even use twitch, and unlike ur insecure self ain't latched onto some 1 yr old take like it's a war crime Trigger 1 fans ICANT
How is that weird? He even said why, "they are valuing Worlds too high" and is true, outside of that they were not that dominant, so many other T1 teams were better it would be absurd to risk putting this one higher that early
Kesha second? I am European and a G2 fan but I can't stand that Kesha. I stopped watching streamers' reactions to "T1 vs Gen ending" video because of him and his obviously bad acting forced yelling. This guy is not living long for sure. He'll get himself a heart attack or s.th. They put him second because he is a G2 streamer.
Best league content creators: Thorin, Dom, Caedral, Ls, Tyler1. I don't really care about the numbers. I woulnd't be watching league if not for dom and thorin (dom for the co-streams and thorin for the interviews).
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah such a weird take you can will all games all year and then lose worlds and you're forgotten that's just it. Worlds is worlds downplaying worlds is just weird.
Not putting T1 as the number one league content creator is insane. He’s pretty much the only league streamer that could even survive out of league lmao when you think of league streamers most people will think of Tyler
Caedrel, Baus, T1, IWD, Kesha. Personal opinion and popular opinion. It's what the stats show. Baus youtube videos would even be no1. Literally the only channel where I watch every single video. And I only recently found out that I wasn't even subscribed. The yt algorithm simply knows. It recommends new baus videos and I click. Baus or Caedrel as a content creator personality isn't better than T1. But in combination with league, Caedrel and Baus are unstoppable. Baus is the most fun you can have watching league gameplay. Maybe you could argue Chilling Smite vids are more entertaining league vids but that's the only person that can compete with Baus
gotta say tyler1 would be on one of my top 5 worst. Only of the 5 i watch is IWD, caedral constantly screams like an autistic child, ooutside that his insight is brilliant he is just very much a product of "loud = funny"
i dont think these rankings are meant to be ''objective'' they're subjective and they simply dont watch tyler1. I don't rate t1 that high either, I find him cringe
imo tyler1 is a 5. maybe a 4. But as the face of league streamsers for many years, he gave league a very bad look and probably made lots of others turn towards toxicity and running it down. Although you do have a point of him pulling so many viewers in non-league games.
@@thomasdee1084 i wouldnt say most unproblematic but yes i do agree that he is a lot better and these days arent a problem. However, his previous behaviour was really bad and imo contributed a lot to why the league community is and percieved as toxic. That isnt to say we should continue to judge him based on that forever. So i was probably a bit harsh and should've probably gave a 3 or something.
People just disrespect T1 2023 because they faced WBG in the finals. It was a fairytale worlds run for them. Everyone said they were not in form and "shaky". GenG was the favorite to win but choked their asses off as usual leaving the burden of carrying LCK fanbase on the back of T1 as usual. It was literally a 1v6 vs CN teams and they delivered OUTSTANDINGLY!
@@pepsiman4418Most definitely not. Not even close, but they are quite good. You have to understand, prime G2 wasn’t just “a team that can compete with LCK/LPL” like current G2. Prime G2 came into every game as an absolutely unstoppable force. They created chaos in every aspect of the game, from draft to strategy, and would steamroll the enemy before they could stabilize and would do it with the most out of pocket shit. They would int? Sure, that’s the risk you take when you’re playing as close to the edge as they did. And these guys would dance with that line so much. The core of that entire philosophy were Caps’ hands and unpredictable nature; Perkz’ brain for the game, macro and leadership; Jankos’ team and role play, the Jungle King; Micky’s creative roaming and engaging; and Wunder’s solid and reliable play that could always be counted on. That team was (and probably will be for a VERY long time) the absolute best team the West has ever produced in LoL e-Sports. They were, as a Western team doomed to be underdogs from the start, 1 Best of 5 away from being the first team in history to complete “The Golden Road”, winning absolutely every competition they could in the calendar year. I don’t see this current G2 nowhere near that same level yet
@@gucijaki7508 recency what? You unironically think team heretics is better than G2?? if Wunder, Jankos and Perkz were still good they wouldn't be the 8th place team.
Also worlds 2023 was way harder to win they had to face all of China which knocked them out in MSI and JDG which is one of the greastest assembled. At worlds they finally peaked at the right time which had all 5 players the best in every role. I would say they are like SSW 14 where they were technically the 3rd seed at worlds if KT didnt choke and only showed up during worlds. Best team ever is SKT 15 and maybe GENG 24 if they win.
@@peternguyen7077Iwd hype up blg that year so hard but all they did was get second place like t1 all year. Yet t1 get clowning and stuff saying they are overrated lol. T1 had better overall placing in tourneys in 2023 than every team in the world that year besides jdg.
I will die on the hill that Faker VS Ryu is a CASTER moment more than a play. Mechanics at that time were definitely 10/10. But the game was already won. There was no stakes. T1 was literally in the process of ending. Even tho it was flashy and clean by faker. He had QSS and Ryu didn't, so it wasn't even a fair 1v1. He's literally ahead AND has the counter item. To me the league play will forever be Xpeke. If Xpeke and Faker vs Ryu were both posted on mute, people who forget about faker vs ryu in a year or two and xpeke would still be iconic.
Yeah im convinced this dude has no idea what a duner kebab is lmao. Saying Korean Fried Chicken is better is actual insanity. Theres nothing special about the Korean Chicken (chikin).
The point is blind ranking. Not knowing what comes next but still having a good/reasonable list is the point. The issue is if the host start changing the topic to troll on purpose but if the host had 5 items/teams already prepare without changing, it is pretty fun.
Half those boys were in middle school when the true legends ascended to fame... comparing present to past is two different cadences all together and not right
5:51 but it’s so much harder to get 1st in korea than in Lec, Im sure you wouldnt rate any lec team other than g2 in 2019 even close to 2023 geng Dom, and Msi road to victory 2019 was much easier, I’m not t1 fan but disrespect is too big man, 2023 t1 in their meta would be slightly above 2019 g2 in their meta, higher ceiling on almost every player. zeus>wunder, oner=jankos, caps>faker, guma>=perkz, keria>miky
I'm sorry Worlds does matter more than anything else, I know that the based LPL enjoyer that is Dom devalues it but you cant put a team that didnt win worlds over one that did.
yeah its weird people don't remember the caps sylus play. That was the play that legit had people saying that caps, a european, could be the best mid laner in the world.
People were talking about that way earlier. IMO caps was the best midlaner if not player during msi 2019 in the entire world, he was so fucking cracked.
Nah BB is just salty when hes not the center of attention narcissist freak
@@daandepauw5252 yes but caps was on another level in 2020 imo made the discussion more legitimate
@@Cashmoneez Caps inted sometimes in 2019 lec but he played good worlds and msi. Feel like the reason caps had higher rep in 2020 was his 2020 summer where most of his team was slumping but he smurfed to win that split. Plus in 2019, he had the previous rep of being international choker from 2018 so people needed time to realize.
@@blackwomangamer2637 Dude you can't say that and be an IWD fan at the same time.Dude legit hates on anyone doing better than him
If this proves anything its that League pros cannot be trusted with the history of their esport
well 5 years experience total vs 13 years experience total makes a huge difference.
Take random plat+ player, put him in time machine, give him good pc and good internet.
He would attend worlds 2011. 2012 no problem and he would completely rewrite the history of league.
2013, he would probably be able to play in worlds but faker would destroy him regardless.
Faker was so ahead of curve that he is historically incorrect to his times, it is like he is the time traveler.
League pros cant be trusted with ANYTHING not even playing the game...
Have you seen some of them in the pop quizzes? They breath this game..
@@erghstragh761 sure, but their reads on historical teams, players etc are way off the mark
Would have put Dom #1 if he came up first that's why no flame of course 🥰
hell no
Put dom on #1 cause he's having too much fun watching LEC
IWD never had a good Kebab in his life for sure
i mean he got it in berlin that's why he doesn't rate it that highly
Giligan def took him to get one. That man knows the best places for sure
understandable since he spends most of his time in US
@@theworst3028 he took him to a shitty one. that's why he doesn't rate it highly. i bet it was inauthentic as shit
Neither a good pizza judging from what he said
Döner is an easy solid 2nd place, Kesha being 5th is still being real generous and Caps' Sylas was mad hype G2 did him dirty here.
Very very generous, would rather watch most league streamers above 1k views over Kesha.
@@MinhBui-to6wk Agreed but then i never did understand why G2 signed him. He might get viewers but id say someone like that drags down the brand.
It was hype more well played but I don’t think it was any more iconic than any of the other plays except maybe smeb kennen.
Ima say it caps Sylas a team fight and doesn't die where's faker Just a 1v1 2/3 lvls ahead not impressive its just has faker on it nothing special 😂
@@oreoyo5639 It isnt about "more iconic" its about the G2 players basically saying it isnt an iconic play at all. Which the main majority of us does not agree with.
Tyler1 at number 4 is the wildest disrespect I've seen in the lol scene ngl
i mean he gained most of his followership thru beeing insanley toxic and beeing permabanned. yes nowadays he is an enjoyable streamer and wholesome person but he brought a really toxic part to the game for a huge viewership who just acted or still act like him ingame
@@joeh6587 cope lmao thats just what dumbfucks who want a reason to hate tyler1 say. the league playerbase isnt toxic just people of 1 guy and he isnt responsible for how people act
@@joeh6587 people were toxic asf before he got popular
@@Bobby_Boozerpeople were toxic but t1 was only known for his toxicity in the early years. Nowadays he is a better person but before he would either carry or int, no in between.
@@Bobby_Boozer yes they were but those big streamers brought it too a much biggger audience and everyone even the guy in the bronze game thought if something is not going his way he just runs it or perma flames
after this video Yike is my second fav G2 member. his face towards miky after he said "you don't watch Tyler1". gold.
G2 2019 IMO was the best most dominant / fun team even , they were literally rolling everyone, were the closest to the golden road I mean they were literally playing the most random picks and owning everyone
yeah its what got me into the esport. good times man 🥲
Totally the best where caps gets outroamed on pyke vs nautilus LMFAO
@@ToTheGrave20 yea in one bo5 wow gj. They were the best team for 364 days of the year but because they had one bad day that invalidates it right?
@@sorcy5467 the one bo5 that actually mattered.
at 16:27, when he talks about his thoughts while on pause, he just describes mikys thoughts uw
9:43 BB was so delusional lmaooo
fcking Broxah was the chaddest of the chad that year bro.
He was a leesin 1 trick merchant lmfao.
yeah also that soloq argument when broxah is just streaming and chilling he has no reason to go for the highest ranks.
@@Zozo-3AM nah, he smurfed worlds
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Not having T1 top is crazy. Dom so right about Kesha, his short form stuff is hilarious. Tried to watch his stream once and I was loosing brain cells
Yeah his stream is when you are in a unique mood and you don't mind screaming.
@@jacktaylor4241 fair. It can't ever really be mainstream like it's just not going to be for everyone. But like I said his like clips and 1 game videos is some of the funniest leage content I've ever seen he has that on lock
Yeah, Kesha is that guy that you see 1 or 2 tiktoks from ang go like haha this guy is crazy and then at the third and forth be like, damn he is actually good at the game, but after that it becomes quite unbearable and stale.
I actually agree with the league roster's take, they are specifically talking about a roster in a single year and 2019 G2 is definitely one of the most dominant team in a single year. To this day, they are still the only team outside of korea who had win against SKT in a bo5 in worlds.
People who question this and go "wow sure LEC is important just like LPL and LCK", do you understand what makes a golden road and why do people hype about JDG so hard last year?
Unironically speaking, 2019 G2 are the second closest team ever to the golden road, the first one being 2015 SKT when they win all year but lost in MSI finals. G2 did the same but lost in Worlds finals. They are literally the same as JDG last year, and JDG didn't even make it to world finals last year.
I mean yes korea was not having the best two years during S8 and S9 but it is just a fact.
If this is not a blind tier list and go by this standard it will have to be 2019 G2 - 2018 FNC (Spring Summer champs, 3-4th in MSI, 2nd in WCS) = 2023 T1 (Lost a lot of important BOs but at least have the ability to get to that point, LCK spring summer 2nd and MSI 3rd, World Champs) - 2022 DRX (Dramatic WCS title but nothing outside of that) - 2023 vitality (lol)
Actually maybe 23 T1 and 18 FNC is kind of the same, depends on your bias (If you want to say LEC is a lower tier region tourney so 2 champs is less than 2 LCK 2nd place, I mean at least T1 are losing to GENG)
G2 is the only team outside of Korean to win a bo5 againts T1? Yeah LPL can't take them down at worlds, but beat them a lof of times during MSI.
2015 SKT was 1 game away from the golden road, but they lost at MSI, which means golden road is over for Summer and Worlds. Yeah if we look at how many games they need to make it they were closer, than 2019 G2, but timeline vise it was G2 to come the closest to the golden road. 2015 EDG was a good match into SKT and 2019 FPX had the same game style as G2 just exacuted on the plays better at worlds.
I personally would rand T1 2023 an 2nd. There was no meta changes before worlds everybody role mostly played the same champion as they played in summer. They may have been 2nd behind Gen.G domestically, but they changed the whole worlds meta mid tournament to make it favor them and I don't remember a single team from history who was able to change the meta during an international tournament. For me 2018 FNC only arguement againts them is Caps had one of the most memorable Rookie seasons in the whole scene and the fact that they stopped the 2 year G2 dominance in EU at that point, but than again it shows how good of a player Caps is that ever since than FNC never won a title again.
@@R3alSt3al I woke up not too long ago before watching this video and typed the message so yes, I forgot to mention T1 losing to other region only happens in Worlds, it's either them losing to LCK teams (2017 finals) and then G2 (2019 semis). I mean who is stupid enough to say "G2 are the only team outside of korea who had win against SKT in a bo5" and then brought up 2015 SKT lost to EDG in MSI finals lmao
Oh yeah me.
Personally I agree, I probably should've edit my version to a FNC = T1 instead of a - because I am too lazy to copy and paste and switch them around, and I still think in this standard 2 EU LCS Champs still better than 2 LCK 2nd. Not in terms of the region's power because I don't want other people to spazz out on me, but they need to figure something out to beat GENG one day.
From what I can remember, FNC's MSI that year was not great (4-6 in groups, 0-3 to RNG in semis) and again S8 Worlds is the year of korea falling off, the world champ last year SSG got a 1-5 score line and iirc is still the worst performance from a LCK team (I think they are still the only LCK team to drop out of the tournament before quarter finals, as for DK last year, the system is different so I can't compare), AFs got 0-3 by C9 making C9 the only NA team to reach semi finals ever (Not counting S1 cuz that is ancient), KT is the only team that is competitive but they have to face against iG in quarters. To this day I still think that was one of the best BO5s to watch, too bad it was quarters, if they swapped places with AFs I think FNC wouldn't get to Finals.
As for 23 T1, aside from losing to GENG in the region, their MSI run is in fact not as bad, because they actually beat GENG in upper bracket semis, lost to JDG by 2-3 in upper bracket finals, and lost to BLG 1-3 in lower bracket finals.
Winning worlds is 70% of the golden road. It is not the same level of difficulty as winning 2 domestic titles and an MSI. To this date 2016 SKT is the closest team to the golden road as they won worlds MSI and spring split
Dom keeping going back in a BLIND RATE at “omg literally how is T1 still 2 OMG” Dom tries not to hate T1 and say that they’re good challenge actually impossible.
wining just several series in worlds at the end makes you good while struggling whole year cope harder t1 fanboy t1 is good but ain't no way t1 2023 is better than g2 2019
@@alexandernaydenov7539 "Sruggling whole year"
LCK 2023 Spring T1 was 17-1, even beat geng in a bo5 once, then lost in finals. Get the facts right if you're gonna talk shit.
@@crepit1413 17-1 spring and still struggling in msi and summer and they wasn't dominant as g2 2019 who lost just 1 b05 in finals
@@alexandernaydenov7539 t1 2023 was ups and downs for sure, but their ups were way higher than g2 2019 ups, and g2 downs were way lower than t1 2023 downs.
Also, t1 in 2023 msi did fine? They got 3rd place, didn't get swept, and only behind 2 lpl teams, both of which were favourites even for worlds? Summer split I can agree, they did horrendous, but there's a clear reason for that, which I'm sure you know. (Faker didn't play for what, 8 games? 1/7 record without him or something like that)
Do people forget that 2019 G2 was by far the most dominant team in the world that year, closest team to date to achieve the golden road falling short at the very last BO5
hmm the SKT team that won Spring, MSI and Worlds the same year.
@@SaraGon15 doesn't matter, no team was just 1 bo5 away from the golden road, g2 is undoubtedly the closest one to do it
@@OutshineUwU no team won MSI and worlds the same year just T1, harder than just typical LECs.
@@SaraGon15 that literally does not matter, their golden road chances were gone before worls even started while G2 was 1 single BO5 away from completing it.
You actually cannot think logically lmfao
@@OutshineUwU there was no Golden Road anyways they didnt win the major tournament, the others did who cares about "almost winning" to "winning", at the end of the day they just won MSI.
people have to understand that tyler1's entertainment value isn't only tied to him playing league. that man is a freaking showman-always high on energy in every event, pulls up numbers playing variety, and etc. just on pure entertainment wise, he should easily be number 1. only caedrel comes close to him on that list tbh
I think the Caps Syndra Play 1v3 under tower was crazy
16:25 honestly if you can get a really good Döner Kebab it's heavenly, they are not made equal so sometimes you come across bad ones, it's not a very consistent fast food imo because you have to find the right place.
tbh tyler1 is a bit too loud/crazy fro europeans. I know a lot that like him but no one would put him number 1
I would easily
Dom has clearly not eaten european kebab before
As a Turkish guy I agree that Korean Fried Chicken is number 1 as well in this list. But other type of Kebabs clears any food you can imagine, döner kebab is just the simplest kebab of all.
everybody forgets wildturtle was an absolute menace in solo queue. Had multiple accounts top NA challenger ladder.
Bro turtles legacy smokes yike that’s not even a question
Any NA player(besides DL) gets disrespected by EU fans/players, same thing happened at recent events until TL wiped the floor with them 2 times in a row
we all know NA is harder region to conquer than EU xdd
@@takumifujiwara300 Turtle played professionally for like 8+ years bro and had lcs wins at the early part of his career. Message back in 6 years and tell me where yike is at after he gets replaced by an ERL player in a year
@@takumifujiwara300conquering 90% of it actually seems to be quite easy, it’s that last 10% that appears to be challenging 😂
Yeah they put him at 3rd on the list, obviously they put Yike are 2nd for the meme. Whyre you so defensive lmao
Caps sylas play on botlane vs that NA team was way more iconic imo
No flame but Pizza as 1st ain't that bad, it's honestly also a logic take since you can have it in different flavors
This feels like a culture battle when we're talking streamers...... they're trolling
Pizza is absolutely a 1 what are you even saying. This is madness
not number 1 but up there for sure
Definitely 1, but kebab should also be 1... i cant decide man
who the hell is kesha
Jungle streamer, nunu & willump 1 trick, screams a lot
nunu scream guy
The pop artist?
Famous female singer
Kesha Rose Sebert (/ˈkɛʃə ˈsiːbərt/; born March 1, 1987) (formerly stylized as Ke$ha) is an American singer and songwriter. Kesha's first major success came in early 2009 when she was featured on rapper Flo Rida's number-one single, "Right Round".
The world finals is all that matters. In real sports they dont care if you win all of your playoffs and then lose the best of 7 in the finals. The ultimate goal is worlds, period.
G2 Esports has not commented on this video? How so
Wish they chose FNC caps vayne vs MSF hans sama Trist 2018. All of EU remembers this clip.
Maybe you are not the biggest lol streamer but I think you are the most knowledgeable one and your content is the most insightful. You were a proplayer, you keep reaching challenger, you've been around the scene since forever and almost no one else watches competitive as much as you do. There's a reason why pros ask you for advice and not other content creators.
how did kesha get on there and not rat? some bizarro world thing going on
Well, now we know why they can’t pick meta champions during draft
Dom is so filled with hate for t1 even when hes 90 he will yapp to hes grandchildren about them
Tyler1 is trash. 4 is 10 places too high.
Only anonymosity can set a true answer.
Kesha nr2 is crazy team glaze
Putting T1 at 2 is almost as bad as thinking Doner Kebab is 3.
poke is the same quality as panda express
So according to dom 2023 jdg were a better team than 2023 T1
because they cant swap around after all 5 get revealed makes it awkward at the end :D
That's the whole point of blind ranking.
Dom trying to rationalize his t1 hate is the best shit ever
Doms ranking is correct on content creators. Tyler1 is easily the top dog, followed by cadrel
such a weird take at 4:00. You think JDG was the best league team ever, got beat by T1, and theyre 3-4th?
What are u malding there is no JDG in that conversation
@@YashKumaroff keep your idiotic twitch lingo to yourself. IWD said many times he thought JDG was the best league team ever. They and every other LPL team got beat by 2023 T1. So the best league team ever and the strongest region got beat by the 3rd or 4th best team ever? Patently stupid.
@@IWinniethePooh funny I don't even use twitch, and unlike ur clownass I am not hanging on to some one year old take as if he did a war crime ahahahah....... U can't even understand why they actually won worlds but that's ok I suppose
@@IWinniethePooh funny I don't even use twitch, and unlike ur insecure self ain't latched onto some 1 yr old take like it's a war crime Trigger 1 fans ICANT
How is that weird? He even said why, "they are valuing Worlds too high" and is true, outside of that they were not that dominant, so many other T1 teams were better it would be absurd to risk putting this one higher that early
Tyler1 at 4 is the right spot. Ceadrel, IWD, Thebausffs, tyler1, kesha.
Content creators:
1. Ratirl
2. Baus
3. Tyler3
4. The lesbianese sniper
5. Noway4u even though i dont speak german.
kesha at #2 is criminal
Kesha second? I am European and a G2 fan but I can't stand that Kesha. I stopped watching streamers' reactions to "T1 vs Gen ending" video because of him and his obviously bad acting forced yelling. This guy is not living long for sure. He'll get himself a heart attack or s.th. They put him second because he is a G2 streamer.
Best league content creators: Thorin, Dom, Caedral, Ls, Tyler1. I don't really care about the numbers. I woulnd't be watching league if not for dom and thorin (dom for the co-streams and thorin for the interviews).
Summoning Insight with Thorin and Monte has been the biggest reason for keeping me interested in LoL esports from 2014 until today
tyler1 at 4 is easily the most egregious decision on this list by miles, like how? jesus christ
Loud man with red face and way too much confidence. Unironically could be president in the US, but just the local crazy person in EU.
In Europe is Caedrel for sure
17:10 Skip the food stuff
G2 2019 was a team to be remembered and respected......G2 now is just a above avg LOL team in a pile a absolute choking garbage
bro they live in berlin. our döner kebab hits diffrent
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah such a weird take you can will all games all year and then lose worlds and you're forgotten that's just it. Worlds is worlds downplaying worlds is just weird.
Not putting T1 as the number one league content creator is insane. He’s pretty much the only league streamer that could even survive out of league lmao when you think of league streamers most people will think of Tyler
Ratirl is actually funny and people love his variety stuff.
that is 1k healing on sylas W
Tyler 1, Dom, Thorin, Pedro, Ls. In that order but each step is not by much. I legit wouldnt be watching League without them.
Iceberg salad is fucking great
Yike second is wild 😂
Caedrel, Baus, T1, IWD, Kesha. Personal opinion and popular opinion. It's what the stats show.
Baus youtube videos would even be no1. Literally the only channel where I watch every single video. And I only recently found out that I wasn't even subscribed. The yt algorithm simply knows. It recommends new baus videos and I click. Baus or Caedrel as a content creator personality isn't better than T1. But in combination with league, Caedrel and Baus are unstoppable. Baus is the most fun you can have watching league gameplay. Maybe you could argue Chilling Smite vids are more entertaining league vids but that's the only person that can compete with Baus
yep worlds so overvalued damn winning the LEC is more cache!
They really smoking that EU pact
gotta say tyler1 would be on one of my top 5 worst. Only of the 5 i watch is IWD, caedral constantly screams like an autistic child, ooutside that his insight is brilliant he is just very much a product of "loud = funny"
Worlds is over-valued...
Yike never ganking for bot lane again lol
People who say salad 5 don't know how to make salad
There is no shot bro puts himself over Kesha LULE.
Why not? Keshas content is literally just to scream into the mic while rolling snowballs on Nunu.
They are so right with Bauss in 1. Over in europe we like the tyler1 style alot less
EU really hates T1🤣
T1’s worlds run still living rent free in dom’s head 😂
Dom you arent German you can't judge Döner Kebab. You don't know really Döner
BB a real one
dom forever the third favorite streamer
yeah dom never had a good kebab in his life, literally best food you can get in germany
T1 #1 Dunkey #2 QTPIE #3 IWD #4 NB3 #-100
the eu bias on the creators is insane
If OAT for the general person its bad, but in the last 2 years its pretty acurate
i dont think these rankings are meant to be ''objective'' they're subjective and they simply dont watch tyler1. I don't rate t1 that high either, I find him cringe
imo tyler1 is a 5. maybe a 4. But as the face of league streamsers for many years, he gave league a very bad look and probably made lots of others turn towards toxicity and running it down. Although you do have a point of him pulling so many viewers in non-league games.
for the last 4 years tyler has been the most unproblematic league streamer
@@thomasdee1084 i wouldnt say most unproblematic but yes i do agree that he is a lot better and these days arent a problem.
However, his previous behaviour was really bad and imo contributed a lot to why the league community is and percieved as toxic.
That isnt to say we should continue to judge him based on that forever. So i was probably a bit harsh and should've probably gave a 3 or something.
@dustyacer2556 league was already toxic before he started and will continue to be toxic without him, he didn't singe handedly form toxicity in league
I agree wirh baus being number 1
People just disrespect T1 2023 because they faced WBG in the finals. It was a fairytale worlds run for them. Everyone said they were not in form and "shaky". GenG was the favorite to win but choked their asses off as usual leaving the burden of carrying LCK fanbase on the back of T1 as usual. It was literally a 1v6 vs CN teams and they delivered OUTSTANDINGLY!
No flame > flames Broxah aaahahahaha
BB so salty he was not in prime g2
This squad is almost there though
@@pepsiman4418Most definitely not. Not even close, but they are quite good.
You have to understand, prime G2 wasn’t just “a team that can compete with LCK/LPL” like current G2. Prime G2 came into every game as an absolutely unstoppable force. They created chaos in every aspect of the game, from draft to strategy, and would steamroll the enemy before they could stabilize and would do it with the most out of pocket shit.
They would int? Sure, that’s the risk you take when you’re playing as close to the edge as they did. And these guys would dance with that line so much.
The core of that entire philosophy were Caps’ hands and unpredictable nature; Perkz’ brain for the game, macro and leadership; Jankos’ team and role play, the Jungle King; Micky’s creative roaming and engaging; and Wunder’s solid and reliable play that could always be counted on.
That team was (and probably will be for a VERY long time) the absolute best team the West has ever produced in LoL e-Sports. They were, as a Western team doomed to be underdogs from the start, 1 Best of 5 away from being the first team in history to complete “The Golden Road”, winning absolutely every competition they could in the calendar year.
I don’t see this current G2 nowhere near that same level yet
@@randomlatindude2119 I don't think the current G2 cares, considering perkz, jankos and wunder are so much worse than BB, Yike and Hans
@@eVillGaming-eng good ol recency bias
@@gucijaki7508 recency what? You unironically think team heretics is better than G2??
if Wunder, Jankos and Perkz were still good they wouldn't be the 8th place team.
G2 are great at trolling and doing close to nothing internationaly.
I mean, knowing the teams, to me it's N1 2019 g2, n2 2018 fnc, n3 2023 t1, n4 2022 drx and n5 2023 vit.
Kebab is easly one of the besr foods ❤
I mean, sure, T1 2023 won "only" Worlds that year, but didn't that SAME roster go undefeated in LCK in 2022?
Also worlds 2023 was way harder to win they had to face all of China which knocked them out in MSI and JDG which is one of the greastest assembled. At worlds they finally peaked at the right time which had all 5 players the best in every role. I would say they are like SSW 14 where they were technically the 3rd seed at worlds if KT didnt choke and only showed up during worlds. Best team ever is SKT 15 and maybe GENG 24 if they win.
@@peternguyen7077Iwd hype up blg that year so hard but all they did was get second place like t1 all year. Yet t1 get clowning and stuff saying they are overrated lol. T1 had better overall placing in tourneys in 2023 than every team in the world that year besides jdg.
Well 2019 G2 And 2018 FNC clear SKT 2023
na fodder ranking against actual pros
I love bb so much man icant
IWD is the who critizing pro players and content creatorrs? xdd
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I will die on the hill that Faker VS Ryu is a CASTER moment more than a play. Mechanics at that time were definitely 10/10. But the game was already won. There was no stakes. T1 was literally in the process of ending. Even tho it was flashy and clean by faker. He had QSS and Ryu didn't, so it wasn't even a fair 1v1. He's literally ahead AND has the counter item. To me the league play will forever be Xpeke. If Xpeke and Faker vs Ryu were both posted on mute, people who forget about faker vs ryu in a year or two and xpeke would still be iconic.
Yeah im convinced this dude has no idea what a duner kebab is lmao. Saying Korean Fried Chicken is better is actual insanity. Theres nothing special about the Korean Chicken (chikin).
How dare you
Lmao there's a reason why the other is famous, even at base form kebab vs chicken, Chicken won by a long shot.
@@shinuukisuri9268 i see you also dont know what a duner kebab is lol
@@Sarubotaiexplain
Me when I can't accept that other people have opinions that aren't like mine
I don't get the point in this game... no matter what you don't put people in order because you don't know what is coming next...?
The point is blind ranking. Not knowing what comes next but still having a good/reasonable list is the point. The issue is if the host start changing the topic to troll on purpose but if the host had 5 items/teams already prepare without changing, it is pretty fun.
salad is 5 but a salad in a piece of bread is 1 xd
i hope your Döner has more than just salad and bread
Half those boys were in middle school when the true legends ascended to fame... comparing present to past is two different cadences all together and not right
5:51 but it’s so much harder to get 1st in korea than in Lec, Im sure you wouldnt rate any lec team other than g2 in 2019 even close to 2023 geng Dom, and Msi road to victory 2019 was much easier, I’m not t1 fan but disrespect is too big man, 2023 t1 in their meta would be slightly above 2019 g2 in their meta, higher ceiling on almost every player. zeus>wunder, oner=jankos, caps>faker, guma>=perkz, keria>miky
Supa💀
First rating and they put yikes that high 😂
I'm sorry Worlds does matter more than anything else, I know that the based LPL enjoyer that is Dom devalues it but you cant put a team that didnt win worlds over one that did.
so wait your saying 2023 JDG is a worse team than 2022 DRX? just because 2022 DRX has a worlds title?
MSI is superior format. Worlds especially with swiss is legit one of the worst format in esports