What Nemesis says between 9:00 and 10:00 = omg such a delight to hear. ^^ It's obvious, but he says it with such inner clarity and casually confronting the current opinion of experts on the topic, while too many humans are still struggling with these basic concepts that would flip the world if they were common knowledge. I'm calling ''starseed'' just there lol. The best to you Nemesis.
I don't know much about him, the only impression I had on him was the year FPX won world, he said Doinb was worse midlaner at world, and at that time his team already lost. Then when Doinb proceeded to win world, LPL gave him a nick name: Salty Lord. I don't know if this makes him Toxic but definitely not humble for someone has no accolade
@@Rain-in3uk And Doinb was by far the most dominant midlaner in this season with all the offmeta picks he went with and stomped the competition to world championship title, so i find it pretty dirty to trashtalk someone when you have achieved nothing nearly comparable.
@@kemystery8896 i was just saying it was a narrow minded response, was just kinda silly and stupid. Video creator used colors as a general description.
What i think is so bizarre about Nemesis catching so much shit for that worlds is that was the most successful Western Run we've had since G2 made finals. Getting reverse swept at knockouts is amazing, by the Tournament favorites, no less. So many people should be ashamed for creating such drama. One of the most successful western teams in recent history, and it's now remembered as a disaster. So disasterous that it ended a pro career. Does this not strike anyone as unreasonable. The narative arround this achievement should have been flipped.
Well g2 made finals just year before, and on that same year g2 also did do semis. The thing is, 2018-2020 were best eu years, at the time they got knocked out, not only did we have hope cuz they already were 2-0 in the series, but also we were used to having finals 2 years in a row, as well as winning msi. So quarters werent as impressive, cuz were on a roll for previous 2 years.
@Craftee6 that's silly. Whose repeated it since? No one. Not a good reason to dumpster a career. Still a massive achievement. Think of where EU might be with Nemesis now.
Exactly, people talk about how FNC threw that series, but if you told a FNC fan before the series that they are gonna lose 3-2 to TES they would probably be happy with that, as they should.
Yeah, also in the video they somehow portray Summer 2020 as a horrible FNC split because of a mediocre regular season and the 0-3 in finals when in reality the regular season was just really close with even the last team winning 6/18 matches and the best team losing 5/13 and FNC being 4th at 9-9. The playoffs started off with a 3-0 sweep vs Rogue and 3-2 win vs G2. Like, FNC entered finals from the upper bracket and somehow this guys feels the need to use this as the basis for a narrative that FNC was in shambles that split?
Not a good reason but he isn't giving a reason so much as an explanation and it does explain it. If you eat delicious food every morning for two years and then we start serving you moldy bread you are definitely going to be sour at that. Nobody told you at that point that from tomorrow onwards you'll get to eat your own nails for dinner so you are still used to good food. Hindsight is a privilege, you can't have the day something happens. Right now we can say that Fnatic team was one of the last best teams we sent to the international stage. Back then, everyone was disappointed though. Again nobody says it's a good reason to dumpster a career. It is simply an explanation. There is never a good reason to ruin someones life. Still it happens so there must be explanations.@@witpickles
Didnt even know Nemesis got hated so much, I always liked him. I was sad that he left proplay but now I totally get it why he did it even if many thing said in the video might be wrong or only partially right. I will continiue supporting him since is one of the best League players I know as a Pro or a Soloqueplayer.
As much as i heard about league pros and some that i experienced, it's a pretty dark place and filled with frauds aswell who fake every credentials and are very manipulative while insanely incompetent when it comes to action. In EU G2 seemed the only healthy team from outside perspective.
It's weird that people seem to think that the legacy and titles are what matters most to Neme. He clearly understands extremely well that being a player is a high-performance, high-stress job, same as any other job, and that if he agrees, he's very open-eyed to what the responsibilities of the position are and what it takes to meet those. He is mentioning wanting to only be with a high-tier team in the context of having management and staff that is knowlegeable, competent, and in will respect players doing what they need to by in turn doing what is needed for the org. Nemesis doesn't half-ass anything, and if he's going to be putting his whole ass in, he needs to know it will be in an environment where people respect that and do the same. Which is the world's most normal condition to have. Bitch is not wanting the silver platter because he's lazy, he's wanting a unicorn org because if the org is anything less than what he needs out of a team, he will prefer to be doing what he is doing right now, which is absolutely an understandable calculation to come to
Right, and when hazmat says "...as a human being", as opposed to what? "...as not a human being"? Like when is a person not a human being? Literally added that just to appeal to emotion.
in this comment section: a bunch of platinum players with inflated egos who have never been in a pro environment give their uninformed opinions like it's a fact. like seriously imagine seeing someone open up about his experience in what is obviously an abusive workplace and going "no actually ur ungrateful and have ego" what a joke you people are lmao
Let’s grant the abusive workplace, his personality is still horrendous. If you watched the first druttut tourney with Kesha, nemesis was literally huffing and puffing & clearly was letting his entire team know he was tilted when they were down instead of being a leader and trying to get the most out of his teammates. Nemesis shoot himself in the foot by criticizing so many players, teams, orgs, you name it. Irregardless if he’s right or wrong you just limit your options in the future by burning bridges.
@@fanwee5048 so you're telling me, that if you had supposedly good players in your team and they start running it down you wont tilt? are you saying you never tilt in your games? are you the chosen one? like an untiltable god? where even faker can tilt if his team is running it down ? yea sure bro ill wake you up when your finishing your wonderful dream
There is nothing wrong with some people not wanting to be "soldiers" for their team, as Nemesis stated. However, he is obviously not a person for "soldiering". I'm not calling him a snowflake, it has nothing to do with that. There could be team environments which are different and could be great for him. But, part of growing up as a player and person (in a hectic esports environment) is knowing when to shut up and do EXACTLY what is asked from you and don't whine about it later. And maybe try to pretend like you have a positive outlook so you don't bring others down. There are a lot of jobs with a ton more pressure than his (was), but there is a reason 20y person isn't supposed to take on them so it responsibility is mostly on management. But I don't see in what instance he was a helping/binding factor.
ok, regarding the 37:00 moment, I say thats so funny to me. Working in profesional kitchens i often compare them to league games, a bunch of different people trying to work together in a high stress enviroment. I believe that cook took a look at the team and thought "y.... thats gonna be rough for them".
@@Lipsymipsytipsy no, the issue people had with rekkled is that he wouldnt speak up when he wanted something as bwipo has said before. He said rekkles is the best teammate you can have but the biggest issue with him is that he doesnt tell his teammates what he wants and needs ingame.
the fact i feel confident in giving a guarantee that this guy could easily go back to pro play and be a top5 midlaner in eu (at least) tells you everything you need to know about what fnc did to his image amongst other teams...
I used to be a FNC fan (stopped when Rekkles left) but never knew Nemesis was hated this much. He always seemed nice to me in their videos and I loved their roster back then. He also looks, talks and acts exactly the same as my younger brother so maybe I was just biased.
As an NA player who doesn't really watch LEC (or lcs tbh), I feel bad for this dude. I think he has tons of potential. I hope to see him play competitively again
@NemesislolClips you do what makes you happy. These people doesn't undertand that success comes in different shapes and forms. I happy to see you bein a real person that understand your options. Just be careful out there, there are many people and predatory organizations looking to control you and own the right to your likeness.
And to add to that, Sylas was 3 0 at that point. Azir isn't going to outfight that Sylas so Morellos is probably just a good supportive item and on top of that doesn't cost as much as other items.
Well jankos joinad a poor team and might be back in a top half team now, but as Nemesis says he won't give up his freedom for a year or two in a bad team to redeem himself.
When a team and a player do not work well together (or as intended) and they break apart, both the team and the player will try their hardest to show that they were not the problem. Jankos was an extreme example because he managed to be the best jungler with one of the worst lineups ever in LEC, therefore showing why he is the GOAT jg in EU. However imagine if he was only middle of the pack. The narrative would be that he is washed and carried by G2 and G2 was right to get rid of him. I think this is what nemesis fears. As soon as he joins a bottom team and he wouldn't be able to do magic, then the narrative would become, that FNC was right and he is bad. And it is rly hard to seem a good player on a bad team.
He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Anyone who knows what they're looking at can tell he's a good player. His point is that the esports environment doesn't care about signing the best players.
@@od1568 that's just plain fanboyism. There is a huge difference between "being top 2 korea ladder good " and "beating caps and humanoid on stage level of good" and the latter cannot be proven until he does it. Noone knows how good he would be currently in pro play. It's not just about mechanics. Also since there is a bad narrative around him, he has the most to prove in pro scene. If he would join a team and his first game would be bad.. can't imagine the hate train he would get instantly.
@@gaborolaszi5062Why are you speculating when he literally gives his reasons in this video? Also Nemesis doesn't really need to prove himself as he has hit rank 2 kr ladder over lck pros and several korean top mids have talked how good he is when theyve played against him. So his skill is known in the scene he just hasn't been given offers for outside reasons like reputation and blacklists.
@@AsirIset Top player in SoloQ well we have seen those come to pro and just fail miserably, it is so much more that need to work in pro play. There is no I in T E A M for one.
Nemesis was always a fan of you, I've been playing league since s3 before that (HoN). We are similar in personality and everything. I'm glad you proved everyone wrong. Always rooting for you
If you had a similar personality you'd be up in the top 0.1% of a field. Nemesis is able to do the same thing for 80 hours a week for years. He is incredibly stress resilient, phenomenally industrious. If you can do the same thing for 80 hour weeks for years like Nemesis, then you'd be right up there.
@@timbradshaw5481 who gives a fk moron, everybody is obviously different if you look at little details. "Similar personality" doesn't mean "exact copy"
@@deejaydee1578 it was something related to C9 , I think . I don't remember whose faults to begin with . I think it was LS fault ( with good intentions) but Neme has no intention of forgiving him
@@ryugaroxas According to LS they argued over nemesis joining c9 and LS said in the heat of the moment a bunch of very mean shit like nemesis was a social climber. Can't remember which stream but probs a clip floating around somewhere.
@@deejaydee1578 well LS outside his opinions of the game still has a lot of mental health issues. He's talked about it openly a lot. Something might've happened between him and Nemesis because of that, like some kind of episode, and some people just don't want to deal with that. I don't really blame Nemesis at all if that was the case, not everyone is equipped to deal with that, and no one is obligated to.
@@deejaydee1578yeah from what LS said it’s was mostly because when LS was in the most difficult moments of his life having suicidal thoughts nemesis wasn’t emotionally available to be there for him and he also didn’t want to go to C9 with LS which LS was really angry about and they had a big argument about it which is understandable for nemesis not to want to go given he just wanted to focus on his streaming career after the whole argument LS tried to reconnect with nemesis and apologise reconcile the friendship but nemesis didn’t want talk to him at all that where we are today I’m obviously simplifying what happened you should watch LS part 1 recap he did around August last year to know all the details
The hate down here is kinda hilarious. Much love to you neme. Idk your reason's for not playing in pro scene. After the years in the industry its fine to stay away, if its not good for your mental health. Stay as you are. ❤
He doesn’t want to take a chance playing on lower teams because he thinks his stock will drop and team’s would talk ab how his attitude was an issue (which it will be because he’s a toxic player). Plus he just wants to join a team that could pose as a contender vs the eastern teams.
@@fanwee5048 I don't think he's a toxic player. I think in the right environment with the right people he can shine. I don't know where you take your sources, why he is toxic but if it is just his behaviour in soloqueue, then I can just laugh.
It's got nothing to do with his stock as a player. He doesn't think the sacrifice is worth it on a fundamental level. Committing a year of his life to something he doesn't fully believe in is hard.
I used to love FNC especially players above the structure ; Rekky / Hyllisang / Nemesis / Bwipo /Broxah are still in 2k24 some of my fav players. Nemesis joined FNC just after the Caps Era and maybe the best performance the team did back in the days. he prob also suffered the comparison with Caps and all the cringe fans start to harrass him ... Anyway i wish thebest to you Nemesis, you're good guy, a very good player and u dt derved all this hate for sure. im happy That you back to play with Rekky again. Last word Look what FNC look like today ... last world was so cringe to watch , i think they still have a problem with coaching staff. (sry for my english im french ^^)
the bad part that no one talks about is how fnc works as a team at that time. nemesis seemed like the one who was set on yeah you dont need to carry wait late game rekkles carries like he always does. rekkles didnt carry omg nemesis was such a bad player we cant win etc. self sufficent jungler or hyper carry type of jungler can work and are not set up by a specific lane look at canyon if you think about the carry jungler his name comes into mind ofc he plays around mid and you often hear about showmaker and canyon but beryl had a big impact as well how top works has a big impact and to an extend adc its just unfair to say oh yeah nemesis and broxah didnt work so great and selfmade nemesis didnt work great so nemesis should be the issue here. and ofc what did you expect the games they lost at worlds with nemesis are lost by g2 as well or g2 gets kicked out by another team on that caliber it was just the mirracle runs that eu somehow got into finals and gets stomped into the ground 2 years in a row so ppl had the expectation that eu is on a lvl to korea/china and in reality they were not on that lvl finals clearly showed how far behind they are both years were straight 3:0´s not remotly close to a win. fnc lost to teams they aren´t suppose to win getting tes who counted as the absolut tournament favorite at that time to 5 games was an insane feat on its own and sure you are up 2:0 and getting to 5 games can get you to lose focus. i always hate the blame on a single person if you cant see the great picture and its always that they pick 1 person last year before worlds zeus was somehow now washed and should be replaced in t1 just cause t1 doesnt perform to a lvl that they are expected its a typical reaction from people who dont even understand the game or the role someone played in a team.
9:20 I think Nemesis is trying to say you can't categorize someone so simply. Because everyone is widely different. The thing is, just because someone has the same traits of not being critical or being simple minded. doesn't mean they don't hold the same traits of something else. Therefore yes they may hold one thing in common, but not multiple and thus meaning it doesn't hold credibility that you're trying to fit three players into a category that doesn't necessarily signify the true definition of each player.
I think Fnatic gave him a bumpy road in his career but Nenesis's pride wouldn't let him pick himself back up on his pro career. Still he seems happy just streaming now
he said himself why would i go to a low tier pro team who would pay me less then my stream revenue which is correct even big lck players will go to NA for the good revenue even tho pro gaming is his passion it's still a job and he has to make a living
@@ranime8156 I mean if he would return to the LEC he would get clapped really hard, dont´t get me wrong, he is a really good player in soloq but competitive is different, it´s not a soloq game,in the dust tournament he lose against a polish team having the most cracked players in his team, even with advantage he still lose.
@@marcosalmeida4055 hard disagree, he was already keeping up with prime G2, even in laning phase, and he was among the main reasons Fnatic even went to 5 games against TES. Anyone with half a brain can see why Bwipo-Selfmade-Hyli wasn't working well with Rekkles-Nemesis. Internally, things were a complete mess within Fnatic when Nemesis was on their team and barely any of that drama actually had to do with him
@@longlifetometal1995 yes and no, I feel it would prob take a few months, due to him already having lots of experience he could pretty easily get back into it after a few months prob
Towards the end of the video, Nemesis says that the video creator got one thing 100% correct just by connecting the dots, but he can't say what it is publicly. You can also see that Nemesis had no reaction when the guy proposed that Nemesis lost 4kg during worlds because he got covid. What if Nemesis got covid during worlds and hid it?
@@pezosdrare3291 It is entirely possible to lose weight due to covid because of things such as appetite. I had a family member who lost a lot of weight post - covid due to this. It is not unimaginable.
@@k3n749 if you're overweight yes but with his body shape you need a fucking internal apocalypse to lose 4 KG. I'd bet my left arm he lost 4kg to something else like depression or big amounth of stress and not this trash covid bullshit
Nemesis is like Dopa right now incredibly talented midlaner but can't cope with the pro play team environnement because of reputation etc.. He choose to stream which is a nice deed too but i woulde love to see him clap EU mid on stage to level up the region for real.
i know but he decided to go streaming either way and elo boosting cause it's worth more money than being a pro player.From my opinion Skillwise he could have challenge the league with his macro if he would have take it seriously at the time. @@SeedRamples
I disagree that Nemesis has been "blacklisted" or "the only thing he could change was quitting in 2020" When he declines starting offers from 2 top NA orgs? He had choices, he chose to be a streamer.
Really not trying to say anything bad about lcs, but man its literally dying and you cant really compare lcs top teams to EU top teams during nemesis era, he was looking for a G2 caliber team or just a team that would sign players that in his view were really good, lcs teams just didn meet those requirments.
The thing you need to think about is whether the 40% heal reduction out-damages the damage from another item, like burn from Liandrys, or the extra AP from another item. That’s why the item was bad. If you want heal reduction, you pick it into Soraka or Janna (champs that can outheal your team’s damage). The heal reduction against Nidalee and Sylas is so negligible that it’s actually an awful first item, especially as a first purchase. You’re correct ofc that there’s healing on enemy team, but it’s not enough to justify 1st purchase Morello: that’s his point. The pro here is sacrificing a lot in damage for a passive that’s so useless early on.
9:37 Disagree here a bit. In any sport, players have archetypes. We create them to simplify types of players and for the most part, it works. Say in basketball there are 3 and D players, ball handlers, rim protectors, etc. A good team will have a mix of these traits to balance out any strengths and weaknesses.
He has trauma from fnatic which is understandable. But the video guy is right. He is probably gonna have to find a middle tier team to take a shot on him so he can prove the narratives were wrong about him. Nemesis is holding out for the perfect scenario because he had such a terrible experience. But there is probably a step in between a great scenario and where he is currently. Hope he is happy regardless. But if he really desires to go back to pro play i think he needs to understand this concept first.
Honestly he should not join any team. Corperate People rarely care about their employees. He is independent now and makes good money. With not to much stress why give that up ? I see 0 reasons .
but what if that middle team contract jail him for 2 years ? just look at VIT Photon now..... he is literally in contract jail + there are so many examples of contract jail so he is afraid of being in the same scenario.
sometimes i think the more someone hates someone the more they think and let that person live rent free in their heads. id suppose its a difficult job though earning money from hate watchers but theres other more dangerous jobs like deep sea diving or fishing.
so funny for someone who have followed eu lcs since the beggining could see the bad things that happened in fnatic and to hear my theories being somewhat right is hilarious. sam and dardo cluless? who the fuck knew LOL
I put it down to bad people being in charge. Doesn't matter if a team member speaks up or not. The management and coaches should know the personalities of their team and its their job to get the most out of them
well he is a realy good player im just sad he is not playing in lec any more but the most important part is what he wanna do if he is not happy playing profesinaly with average teams then dont play wish u all the best nemesis and have fun
100% agree, though I find it sad to see average teams being shunned. Last year we saw bottom tier teams nobody expected to perform regularly trumping the established elite, save for G2 who also lost a lot to be fair, there is hardly a team inside europe you can join with a straight face. If you were offered a spot in SK in the 2022-2023 offseason you'd never assume that team is going to be massively more successful than Rogue will you? Same goes for BDS, still it happened.
Mythia offhandedly drags the LPL by implying that Mithy’s backstage tirade at Nemesis(which already is in doubt) are commonplace there, (shows a news article about DFM, a Japanese team in the LJL)
after caps left the team, fnatic managment should have made sure no star player would ever want to leave again. they legit ruined their own chances at several championships
What. The roster with Bwipo jungle was cracked. Yamato has later said that was the only year ever as coach were they were just outplaying Asian teams in practice. Then Upset's wife got assaulted and Adam was a child about it and we didn't see the roster at worlds or the next year. That was the last real real roster.
Nemesis is one of the best players in the world and they treated him like shit. In champ select they should have been building comps around Nemesis instead of locking him in to some crap where he can't pop off.
They ruined Nemesis's career thinking that he was their weak link, and in turn also ruined their league team over time. they were supposed to be the chosen ones to challenge G2 😪😪
LOL why did Nemesis say "I can't show this part" when Destiny was talking about and showing a graph about streamers' growth vs. viewers and awareness?? Can anyone answer that for me, I'm confused...
Like Destiny? Idk, I like to watch people who believe X thing, and is capable of explaining why they believe in it in-depth. I find it very compelling, even though I don't necessairly agree with them. @@gaugea
Check out the original creator @hazmat who made this video and put all the effort into it:
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What Nemesis says between 9:00 and 10:00 = omg such a delight to hear. ^^ It's obvious, but he says it with such inner clarity and casually confronting the current opinion of experts on the topic, while too many humans are still struggling with these basic concepts that would flip the world if they were common knowledge. I'm calling ''starseed'' just there lol. The best to you Nemesis.
well now he's signed to the best team ever
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i was thinking exact same thing lol
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Nemesis stopping the video to explain how you can't fit people into two categories is such a blue thing of him to do
He is acting like a red 🤓
I don't know much about him, the only impression I had on him was the year FPX won world, he said Doinb was worse midlaner at world, and at that time his team already lost. Then when Doinb proceeded to win world, LPL gave him a nick name: Salty Lord. I don't know if this makes him Toxic but definitely not humble for someone has no accolade
@@Rain-in3uk And Doinb was by far the most dominant midlaner in this season with all the offmeta picks he went with and stomped the competition to world championship title, so i find it pretty dirty to trashtalk someone when you have achieved nothing nearly comparable.
@@tweddy9111 wouldn't it mean he's blue seeing that he's openminded and doesn't subscribe to the binary mindset 🤓☝️
@@kemystery8896 i was just saying it was a narrow minded response, was just kinda silly and stupid. Video creator used colors as a general description.
What i think is so bizarre about Nemesis catching so much shit for that worlds is that was the most successful Western Run we've had since G2 made finals. Getting reverse swept at knockouts is amazing, by the Tournament favorites, no less.
So many people should be ashamed for creating such drama. One of the most successful western teams in recent history, and it's now remembered as a disaster. So disasterous that it ended a pro career. Does this not strike anyone as unreasonable.
The narative arround this achievement should have been flipped.
Well g2 made finals just year before, and on that same year g2 also did do semis.
The thing is, 2018-2020 were best eu years, at the time they got knocked out, not only did we have hope cuz they already were 2-0 in the series, but also we were used to having finals 2 years in a row, as well as winning msi. So quarters werent as impressive, cuz were on a roll for previous 2 years.
@Craftee6 that's silly. Whose repeated it since? No one. Not a good reason to dumpster a career. Still a massive achievement. Think of where EU might be with Nemesis now.
Exactly, people talk about how FNC threw that series, but if you told a FNC fan before the series that they are gonna lose 3-2 to TES they would probably be happy with that, as they should.
Yeah, also in the video they somehow portray Summer 2020 as a horrible FNC split because of a mediocre regular season and the 0-3 in finals when in reality the regular season was just really close with even the last team winning 6/18 matches and the best team losing 5/13 and FNC being 4th at 9-9. The playoffs started off with a 3-0 sweep vs Rogue and 3-2 win vs G2. Like, FNC entered finals from the upper bracket and somehow this guys feels the need to use this as the basis for a narrative that FNC was in shambles that split?
Not a good reason but he isn't giving a reason so much as an explanation and it does explain it. If you eat delicious food every morning for two years and then we start serving you moldy bread you are definitely going to be sour at that. Nobody told you at that point that from tomorrow onwards you'll get to eat your own nails for dinner so you are still used to good food. Hindsight is a privilege, you can't have the day something happens. Right now we can say that Fnatic team was one of the last best teams we sent to the international stage. Back then, everyone was disappointed though.
Again nobody says it's a good reason to dumpster a career. It is simply an explanation. There is never a good reason to ruin someones life. Still it happens so there must be explanations.@@witpickles
Didnt even know Nemesis got hated so much, I always liked him. I was sad that he left proplay but now I totally get it why he did it even if many thing said in the video might be wrong or only partially right. I will continiue supporting him since is one of the best League players I know as a Pro or a Soloqueplayer.
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@MemeLord69420xxx Nemesis haters💩
Nemesis fans 🤡
As much as i heard about league pros and some that i experienced, it's a pretty dark place and filled with frauds aswell who fake every credentials and are very manipulative while insanely incompetent when it comes to action. In EU G2 seemed the only healthy team from outside perspective.
@MemeLord69420xxx I am complete neutral here, only know of nemesis because he's mentioned here and there. What did he do?
I really hope being in LR helps him with his pro career this man deserves it all ❤
Nemesis name is so accurate lmao
It's weird that people seem to think that the legacy and titles are what matters most to Neme. He clearly understands extremely well that being a player is a high-performance, high-stress job, same as any other job, and that if he agrees, he's very open-eyed to what the responsibilities of the position are and what it takes to meet those. He is mentioning wanting to only be with a high-tier team in the context of having management and staff that is knowlegeable, competent, and in will respect players doing what they need to by in turn doing what is needed for the org. Nemesis doesn't half-ass anything, and if he's going to be putting his whole ass in, he needs to know it will be in an environment where people respect that and do the same. Which is the world's most normal condition to have. Bitch is not wanting the silver platter because he's lazy, he's wanting a unicorn org because if the org is anything less than what he needs out of a team, he will prefer to be doing what he is doing right now, which is absolutely an understandable calculation to come to
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@@akebengtsson1223average neme fan all yappers
@@akebengtsson1223lol players when they encounter a paragraph with more than 100 words
Happy to watch this after the creation of Los Ratones, good luck to you Nemesis, the journey is already looking great !!
same
hazmats videos are so brutal to watch lol. he has a narrative he wants to go with when he starts recording and then waffles for 45+ minutes
it was a bit biased and emotionally driven, but doesn't nullify the treatment nemesis got during his time there.
Right, and when hazmat says "...as a human being", as opposed to what? "...as not a human being"? Like when is a person not a human being? Literally added that just to appeal to emotion.
that's every video ever made by every person ever
Obviously the Sam and Dardo part was the on point one.
There is interview with Dardo Thorin, go check it out.
what sam and dardo part?
saying they're just paycheck stealers and completely useless I assume @@woah4288
but he literally confirmed that part in the video so it has to be something else
Also mithy bs and not letting players control draft
Thank you for reacting to how fnatic runed nemesis's career mister nemesis i cant believed you saved my life
wut?
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autist alert🚨
Comedy has been achieved. I haha'd
To the guys below maybe they wanted to be a proplayer.
24:16 This is just literally every Eastern Europeans standard face when their neither happy or sad.
in this comment section: a bunch of platinum players with inflated egos who have never been in a pro environment give their uninformed opinions like it's a fact. like seriously imagine seeing someone open up about his experience in what is obviously an abusive workplace and going "no actually ur ungrateful and have ego" what a joke you people are lmao
Let’s grant the abusive workplace, his personality is still horrendous.
If you watched the first druttut tourney with Kesha, nemesis was literally huffing and puffing & clearly was letting his entire team know he was tilted when they were down instead of being a leader and trying to get the most out of his teammates.
Nemesis shoot himself in the foot by criticizing so many players, teams, orgs, you name it. Irregardless if he’s right or wrong you just limit your options in the future by burning bridges.
this comment: a silver player being a delusional Nemesis fanboy.
@@fanwee5048 so you're telling me, that if you had supposedly good players in your team and they start running it down you wont tilt? are you saying you never tilt in your games? are you the chosen one? like an untiltable god? where even faker can tilt if his team is running it down ? yea sure bro ill wake you up when your finishing your wonderful dream
There is nothing wrong with some people not wanting to be "soldiers" for their team, as Nemesis stated. However, he is obviously not a person for "soldiering". I'm not calling him a snowflake, it has nothing to do with that. There could be team environments which are different and could be great for him. But, part of growing up as a player and person (in a hectic esports environment) is knowing when to shut up and do EXACTLY what is asked from you and don't whine about it later. And maybe try to pretend like you have a positive outlook so you don't bring others down. There are a lot of jobs with a ton more pressure than his (was), but there is a reason 20y person isn't supposed to take on them so it responsibility is mostly on management. But I don't see in what instance he was a helping/binding factor.
@@fanwee5048 are you srs comparing drut's tournament with being part of an LEC team ? you are utterly clueless
ok, regarding the 37:00 moment, I say thats so funny to me. Working in profesional kitchens i often compare them to league games, a bunch of different people trying to work together in a high stress enviroment. I believe that cook took a look at the team and thought "y.... thats gonna be rough for them".
Nemesis I wish you the best. I watch your youtube post all the time and you give me a lot of fun hours
rekkles seems like a good teammate
I agree, sadly a lot of people say differently
@@Lipsymipsytipsy no, the issue people had with rekkled is that he wouldnt speak up when he wanted something as bwipo has said before. He said rekkles is the best teammate you can have but the biggest issue with him is that he doesnt tell his teammates what he wants and needs ingame.
I don't watch his stream much. wtf is that Lightning McQueen emote whenever LS mentioned or on the screen lmao?
the fact i feel confident in giving a guarantee that this guy could easily go back to pro play and be a top5 midlaner in eu (at least) tells you everything you need to know about what fnc did to his image amongst other teams...
Here before LR helps nemisis get accepted back in LEC
I used to be a FNC fan (stopped when Rekkles left) but never knew Nemesis was hated this much. He always seemed nice to me in their videos and I loved their roster back then. He also looks, talks and acts exactly the same as my younger brother so maybe I was just biased.
As an NA player who doesn't really watch LEC (or lcs tbh), I feel bad for this dude. I think he has tons of potential. I hope to see him play competitively again
You were always my favorite player while you were in LEC, so so sorry about everything that happened. Many good wishes for your future
So now we know why he called nemesis he got screwed by multiple people and now back with the best team for revenge and the championship
I literally watched this an hour ago. funny that you upload this today.
@NemesislolClips you do what makes you happy. These people doesn't undertand that success comes in different shapes and forms. I happy to see you bein a real person that understand your options. Just be careful out there, there are many people and predatory organizations looking to control you and own the right to your likeness.
20:49 that was so obvious that hes referring to himself lmaoo
What is the story behind the lightning mcqueen emote spam whenever LS comes up
No way, did he know crownie from way before? Wow
I want to live in the alternate universe where the FlyQuest team is a thing
naw give me back echo fox. Rick was a gem that we lost
U deserved so much more attention in Pro gaming.
Respect for how u dealt with all of it.
23:20 i can count 4 enemy champs with healing on their kit specialy renekton and silas being a core part on how they play !
And to add to that, Sylas was 3 0 at that point. Azir isn't going to outfight that Sylas so Morellos is probably just a good supportive item and on top of that doesn't cost as much as other items.
@@Noctua07 we have oblivion orb ☺️
Well jankos joinad a poor team and might be back in a top half team now, but as Nemesis says he won't give up his freedom for a year or two in a bad team to redeem himself.
When a team and a player do not work well together (or as intended) and they break apart, both the team and the player will try their hardest to show that they were not the problem. Jankos was an extreme example because he managed to be the best jungler with one of the worst lineups ever in LEC, therefore showing why he is the GOAT jg in EU. However imagine if he was only middle of the pack. The narrative would be that he is washed and carried by G2 and G2 was right to get rid of him.
I think this is what nemesis fears. As soon as he joins a bottom team and he wouldn't be able to do magic, then the narrative would become, that FNC was right and he is bad. And it is rly hard to seem a good player on a bad team.
He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Anyone who knows what they're looking at can tell he's a good player. His point is that the esports environment doesn't care about signing the best players.
@@od1568 that's just plain fanboyism. There is a huge difference between "being top 2 korea ladder good " and "beating caps and humanoid on stage level of good" and the latter cannot be proven until he does it. Noone knows how good he would be currently in pro play. It's not just about mechanics.
Also since there is a bad narrative around him, he has the most to prove in pro scene. If he would join a team and his first game would be bad.. can't imagine the hate train he would get instantly.
@@gaborolaszi5062Why are you speculating when he literally gives his reasons in this video? Also Nemesis doesn't really need to prove himself as he has hit rank 2 kr ladder over lck pros and several korean top mids have talked how good he is when theyve played against him. So his skill is known in the scene he just hasn't been given offers for outside reasons like reputation and blacklists.
@@AsirIset Top player in SoloQ well we have seen those come to pro and just fail miserably, it is so much more that need to work in pro play. There is no I in T E A M for one.
Nemesis was always a fan of you, I've been playing league since s3 before that (HoN). We are similar in personality and everything. I'm glad you proved everyone wrong. Always rooting for you
bro is similar in everything lule
If you had a similar personality you'd be up in the top 0.1% of a field. Nemesis is able to do the same thing for 80 hours a week for years.
He is incredibly stress resilient, phenomenally industrious.
If you can do the same thing for 80 hour weeks for years like Nemesis, then you'd be right up there.
@@timbradshaw5481 LOL
@@timbradshaw5481 who gives a fk moron, everybody is obviously different if you look at little details. "Similar personality" doesn't mean "exact copy"
@@timbradshaw5481 glazer on glazer violence
that yas clip vs cass is nuts
Holy fuck Travian. I haven't heard that in like 14 years.
LS IS TRUE HOMIE, DUDE might be getting away with " BASED" take but he truly cares for anyone who interested in making League a better environment
Which makes me more baffled about what possibly couldve driven them apart... am I alone in thinking that nemesis pushes away people too much?
@@deejaydee1578 it was something related to C9 , I think . I don't remember whose faults to begin with . I think it was LS fault ( with good intentions) but Neme has no intention of forgiving him
@@ryugaroxas According to LS they argued over nemesis joining c9 and LS said in the heat of the moment a bunch of very mean shit like nemesis was a social climber. Can't remember which stream but probs a clip floating around somewhere.
@@deejaydee1578 well LS outside his opinions of the game still has a lot of mental health issues. He's talked about it openly a lot. Something might've happened between him and Nemesis because of that, like some kind of episode, and some people just don't want to deal with that.
I don't really blame Nemesis at all if that was the case, not everyone is equipped to deal with that, and no one is obligated to.
@@deejaydee1578yeah from what LS said it’s was mostly because when LS was in the most difficult moments of his life having suicidal thoughts nemesis wasn’t emotionally available to be there for him and he also didn’t want to go to C9 with LS which LS was really angry about and they had a big argument about it which is understandable for nemesis not to want to go given he just wanted to focus on his streaming career after the whole argument LS tried to reconnect with nemesis and apologise reconcile the friendship but nemesis didn’t want talk to him at all that where we are today I’m obviously simplifying what happened you should watch LS part 1 recap he did around August last year to know all the details
I can understand his feelings of not wanting to join a team if he doesn't believe in its success. I truly hope he can find one.
He found one now
The hate down here is kinda hilarious. Much love to you neme. Idk your reason's for not playing in pro scene. After the years in the industry its fine to stay away, if its not good for your mental health. Stay as you are. ❤
He doesn’t want to take a chance playing on lower teams because he thinks his stock will drop and team’s would talk ab how his attitude was an issue (which it will be because he’s a toxic player). Plus he just wants to join a team that could pose as a contender vs the eastern teams.
@@fanwee5048 I don't think he's a toxic player. I think in the right environment with the right people he can shine. I don't know where you take your sources, why he is toxic but if it is just his behaviour in soloqueue, then I can just laugh.
he was known to be a toxic player in his pro carreer which is why alot of teams refused to sign him after fnc@@Volkowitsch
It's got nothing to do with his stock as a player. He doesn't think the sacrifice is worth it on a fundamental level. Committing a year of his life to something he doesn't fully believe in is hard.
@@vedantgupta2145other people said it so it must be true
i learned so much about this guy today
9:30
Nemesis sounds just like RATIRL there.
I used to love FNC especially players above the structure ; Rekky / Hyllisang / Nemesis / Bwipo /Broxah are still in 2k24 some of my fav players.
Nemesis joined FNC just after the Caps Era and maybe the best performance the team did back in the days.
he prob also suffered the comparison with Caps and all the cringe fans start to harrass him ...
Anyway i wish thebest to you Nemesis, you're good guy, a very good player and u dt derved all this hate for sure.
im happy That you back to play with Rekky again.
Last word Look what FNC look like today ... last world was so cringe to watch , i think they still have a problem with coaching staff.
(sry for my english im french ^^)
i feel bad i remembered nemesis when he was forced to play galio everyday when he joined fnc
whats the thing he said he got completely right j curious if anyone knows
+1
the bad part that no one talks about is how fnc works as a team at that time.
nemesis seemed like the one who was set on yeah you dont need to carry wait late game rekkles carries like he always does.
rekkles didnt carry omg nemesis was such a bad player we cant win etc.
self sufficent jungler or hyper carry type of jungler can work and are not set up by a specific lane look at canyon if you think about the carry jungler his name comes into mind ofc he plays around mid and you often hear about showmaker and canyon but beryl had a big impact as well how top works has a big impact and to an extend adc its just unfair to say oh yeah nemesis and broxah didnt work so great and selfmade nemesis didnt work great so nemesis should be the issue here.
and ofc what did you expect the games they lost at worlds with nemesis are lost by g2 as well or g2 gets kicked out by another team on that caliber it was just the mirracle runs that eu somehow got into finals and gets stomped into the ground 2 years in a row so ppl had the expectation that eu is on a lvl to korea/china and in reality they were not on that lvl finals clearly showed how far behind they are both years were straight 3:0´s not remotly close to a win. fnc lost to teams they aren´t suppose to win getting tes who counted as the absolut tournament favorite at that time to 5 games was an insane feat on its own and sure you are up 2:0 and getting to 5 games can get you to lose focus. i always hate the blame on a single person if you cant see the great picture and its always that they pick 1 person last year before worlds zeus was somehow now washed and should be replaced in t1 just cause t1 doesnt perform to a lvl that they are expected its a typical reaction from people who dont even understand the game or the role someone played in a team.
Fuck dardo and hope Nemesis gets a really good team project someday, the only one in europe that could really overcome caps at his prime.
9:20 I think Nemesis is trying to say you can't categorize someone so simply. Because everyone is widely different. The thing is, just because someone has the same traits of not being critical or being simple minded. doesn't mean they don't hold the same traits of something else. Therefore yes they may hold one thing in common, but not multiple and thus meaning it doesn't hold credibility that you're trying to fit three players into a category that doesn't necessarily signify the true definition of each player.
I think Fnatic gave him a bumpy road in his career but Nenesis's pride wouldn't let him pick himself back up on his pro career. Still he seems happy just streaming now
he said himself why would i go to a low tier pro team who would pay me less then my stream revenue which is correct even big lck players will go to NA for the good revenue even tho pro gaming is his passion it's still a job and he has to make a living
@@ranime8156 I mean if he would return to the LEC he would get clapped really hard, dont´t get me wrong, he is a really good player in soloq but competitive is different, it´s not a soloq game,in the dust tournament he lose against a polish team having the most cracked players in his team, even with advantage he still lose.
@@marcosalmeida4055 nah, he would definitely be top 3. It would take him maybe 2 weeks to a month to use to the pro environment again
@@marcosalmeida4055 hard disagree, he was already keeping up with prime G2, even in laning phase, and he was among the main reasons Fnatic even went to 5 games against TES.
Anyone with half a brain can see why Bwipo-Selfmade-Hyli wasn't working well with Rekkles-Nemesis. Internally, things were a complete mess within Fnatic when Nemesis was on their team and barely any of that drama actually had to do with him
@@longlifetometal1995 yes and no, I feel it would prob take a few months, due to him already having lots of experience he could pretty easily get back into it after a few months prob
There was a guy in chat so madge with the video since the beginning. lmao
what is the name of the red car smiling emote?
LSMcQueen
Towards the end of the video, Nemesis says that the video creator got one thing 100% correct just by connecting the dots, but he can't say what it is publicly. You can also see that Nemesis had no reaction when the guy proposed that Nemesis lost 4kg during worlds because he got covid. What if Nemesis got covid during worlds and hid it?
That would be absolutely insane
losing 4kg because of covid xD wtf are you talking about
@@pezosdrare3291 It is entirely possible to lose weight due to covid because of things such as appetite. I had a family member who lost a lot of weight post - covid due to this. It is not unimaginable.
@@k3n749 if you're overweight yes but with his body shape you need a fucking internal apocalypse to lose 4 KG. I'd bet my left arm he lost 4kg to something else like depression or big amounth of stress and not this trash covid bullshit
Sam and Dardo being clueless about the team and just wanting power is the connected dots
Kind of ironic to see this while Los Ratones will be ascending to LEC top team in matter of days.
Nemesis is like Dopa right now incredibly talented midlaner but can't cope with the pro play team environnement because of reputation etc.. He choose to stream which is a nice deed too but i woulde love to see him clap EU mid on stage to level up the region for real.
Dopa is banned from competitive League.
@@SeedRampleswhy?
i know but he decided to go streaming either way and elo boosting cause it's worth more money than being a pro player.From my opinion Skillwise he could have challenge the league with his macro if he would have take it seriously at the time.
@@SeedRamples
elo boosting other account@@gxdx697
@@gxdx697 Elo boosting
hate it when ppl say misinformation so confidently, atleast the video was entertaining - props to nemesis for sitting trough this one
23:14 u have sylas w, nidalee e rakan q and Reventon q all are healing abilities no?
I disagree that Nemesis has been "blacklisted" or "the only thing he could change was quitting in 2020" When he declines starting offers from 2 top NA orgs? He had choices, he chose to be a streamer.
LCS so dead, he wants to join a competitive team
Really not trying to say anything bad about lcs, but man its literally dying and you cant really compare lcs top teams to EU top teams during nemesis era, he was looking for a G2 caliber team or just a team that would sign players that in his view were really good, lcs teams just didn meet those requirments.
I disagree with you. Playing in LCS is retirement and fooling around, he does not want that.
You can say that but it doesn't make it true.@@CarlosFlores-pl3lb
Nemesis' career is dead. It's undeniable. He had offers. Didn't join. Flames the shit out of Esportd Staff. Who would want that?
At like 23:00 he talks about an item that was useless because of no healing? uh sylas rakan and nidlee have healing so ....
The thing you need to think about is whether the 40% heal reduction out-damages the damage from another item, like burn from Liandrys, or the extra AP from another item.
That’s why the item was bad. If you want heal reduction, you pick it into Soraka or Janna (champs that can outheal your team’s damage). The heal reduction against Nidalee and Sylas is so negligible that it’s actually an awful first item, especially as a first purchase.
You’re correct ofc that there’s healing on enemy team, but it’s not enough to justify 1st purchase Morello: that’s his point.
The pro here is sacrificing a lot in damage for a passive that’s so useless early on.
9:37 Disagree here a bit. In any sport, players have archetypes. We create them to simplify types of players and for the most part, it works. Say in basketball there are 3 and D players, ball handlers, rim protectors, etc. A good team will have a mix of these traits to balance out any strengths and weaknesses.
The fact the this year I also knew how they ruined rekkless too. Luckily he’s saved by T1
im a fnatic fan since i watch proplay ~2018
still tho , only much love for u nemesis i really loved u at fnatic and continued following u after
Random destiny clip 48:29 go off queen
this will be a banger
Hows there 0 need for morelos when youre playing against sylas that heals 90% oh his health with a single W at level 4?
link original video?
Coming back to this video every time western teams get absolutely shit on at worlds is just a tradition at this point.
"he got something completely right but I can't say what it is" - Any ideas what it could be?
prob the personal stuff and covid connection
Sam and Dardo being clueless about the team and just wanting power
what the fuck does the lightning mcqueen emote mean
why does the thumbnail looks like LS just picked up a random homeless man
My dumbass realizing it's hazmat making the video
I'll never forget how IG's coach during 2018 Worlds told TheShy during P&B to _not_ pick Irelia and he just insta locks Irelia 😂
I would love to see this guy joine LCK/LPL or even LCS and stomped every EU teams he faces.
XDDDDDD 🤡
@@Ann_QwQ look at little goblin jr. Gonna cry?
confirmed Nemesis, LS, SELFMADE love triangle
He has trauma from fnatic which is understandable. But the video guy is right. He is probably gonna have to find a middle tier team to take a shot on him so he can prove the narratives were wrong about him. Nemesis is holding out for the perfect scenario because he had such a terrible experience. But there is probably a step in between a great scenario and where he is currently. Hope he is happy regardless. But if he really desires to go back to pro play i think he needs to understand this concept first.
C9 gave him an offer and he declined. He's never playing pro again
Honestly he should not join any team. Corperate People rarely care about their employees. He is independent now and makes good money. With not to much stress why give that up ? I see 0 reasons .
@@pekillas2593 "lol pro play" "NA"
but what if that middle team contract jail him for 2 years ? just look at VIT Photon now..... he is literally in contract jail + there are so many examples of contract jail so he is afraid of being in the same scenario.
@@pekillas2593 Yeah. Like if u dont accept C9 which is the best western team after G2, then u are not accepting any other offer.
Caedral the jesus of league esports, came to save you :^)
Im Fnatic fan and I think you are great player!
00:25 XD tenet music what are the chances nim listening for 3 days in a row tenet music
sometimes i think the more someone hates someone the more they think and let that person live rent free in their heads. id suppose its a difficult job though earning money from hate watchers but theres other more dangerous jobs like deep sea diving or fishing.
so funny for someone who have followed eu lcs since the beggining could see the bad things that happened in fnatic and to hear my theories being somewhat right is hilarious. sam and dardo cluless? who the fuck knew LOL
Nobody can know the 100% truth , the video is based on screens , cuts and hearsays , dosen't mean it's true
I put it down to bad people being in charge. Doesn't matter if a team member speaks up or not. The management and coaches should know the personalities of their team and its their job to get the most out of them
He doesn't disagree with the notion his career is ruined.
well he is a realy good player im just sad he is not playing in lec any more but the most important part is what he wanna do if he is not happy playing profesinaly with average teams then dont play wish u all the best nemesis and have fun
100% agree, though I find it sad to see average teams being shunned. Last year we saw bottom tier teams nobody expected to perform regularly trumping the established elite, save for G2 who also lost a lot to be fair, there is hardly a team inside europe you can join with a straight face. If you were offered a spot in SK in the 2022-2023 offseason you'd never assume that team is going to be massively more successful than Rogue will you? Same goes for BDS, still it happened.
12:32 BULGARIAN !! FLAG
wtf is a bulgarian? is it a kind of rice
Mythia offhandedly drags the LPL by implying that Mithy’s backstage tirade at Nemesis(which already is in doubt) are commonplace there, (shows a news article about DFM, a Japanese team in the LJL)
i like nemesis as much as anyone, but the creator of this video is extremely biased haha
facts.
he isnt
what is the chat?? and why can you all understand the colors?
6:27 I can imagine Broxah spam pinging to dive a laner before realising that his laner Nemesis is farming his raptors 😂
after caps left the team, fnatic managment should have made sure no star player would ever want to leave again. they legit ruined their own chances at several championships
Nemesis reacts to Nemesis reacts to Nemesis reacts to Nemesis reacts
welcome to the new world of youtube
Since they fired nemesis, Fnatic never be the same again
I mean. From what neme said, fnatic never being the same would be a good thing
What. The roster with Bwipo jungle was cracked. Yamato has later said that was the only year ever as coach were they were just outplaying Asian teams in practice. Then Upset's wife got assaulted and Adam was a child about it and we didn't see the roster at worlds or the next year.
That was the last real real roster.
2:05 - Slovenian* city, not Slovakian
23:54 Sylas ? Nidalee ? Rakan ? Renekton Q ?
woah he and his brother look so similar
Nemesis is one of the best players in the world and they treated him like shit. In champ select they should have been building comps around Nemesis instead of locking him in to some crap where he can't pop off.
They ruined Nemesis's career thinking that he was their weak link, and in turn also ruined their league team over time. they were supposed to be the chosen ones to challenge G2 😪😪
LOL why did Nemesis say "I can't show this part" when Destiny was talking about and showing a graph about streamers' growth vs. viewers and awareness?? Can anyone answer that for me, I'm confused...
because of destiny ban
"How Fnatic Ruined Nemesis's carrer" was the only thing correct with the vid XD.
the game 5 twisted fate☠☠☠
Bro how is nemesis from my country and i had no idea😂😂
Can we get Nemesis reacting to Nemesis reacting to how fnatic ruined Nemesis' career?
The destiny clip is so funny. I love that this was in the VOD
hehe
@@hazmat1i swear u just watch the same ppl as me or smtn
Like Destiny?
Idk, I like to watch people who believe X thing, and is capable of explaining why they believe in it in-depth. I find it very compelling, even though I don't necessairly agree with them. @@gaugea