The Position: Why the Tour Pro's are so good! Can you learn this?
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2020
- The Position that makes the difference between a Tour Professional and the rest. Can you learn this?
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This video is the most valuable source of information I have ever heard as a 78 year old golfer. I struggled with too much flipping of the wrists at impact and no teaching pro over 50 years ever once mentioned this concept during my lessons. Consequently, I could never have consistent ball striking and consistent scores.
Jonathan just summarized the essence of two years worth of lessons into one short video. Very well done.
This is what I’ve been trying to work out for a year. Nobody talks about the position when the club is 4-6” past the ball position. It doesn’t matter if you hit the exact back of the ball if 4”s later you are off line, that’s a hook or slice or push. If you hit the exact back of the ball and 4” later the face is still pointing at the target, that’s where the ball goes.....with every club in the bag! Nicely explained and as a 54 yr old, I’ll just do my best to bend that much. 😂
This is one of the best analyses I've seen about how to get to this position. Great job!
Hi jonathan.
I am a 41-year-old bogey player living in Korea. I have been taking golf lessons regularly once a week for the past two years and practicing every day. Those hours were not rewarded and I tried every day to improve my golf but failed. But today, after watching this video of yours, all my questions were answered at once, and all the frustrations and concerns I had been experiencing found answers at once. I feel like I have found the final piece of the 1000*1000 puzzle called golf. Thank you so much. With the clues you gave me, I will reach an even higher level. I am sending you this expression of sincerity with a very grateful heart. I hope you are always happy. thank you very much. sincerely.
This video is pure GOLD. I have watched this about 50 times over the winter and its all I think about when I hit my driver. I have never hit it better than I have this year. Thank you Jonathan!
A masterpiece of why and how we need to get into the 'position'. Great job Jonathan.
This is the most important golf video you'll ever watch. This works incredibly well to get your club face on the ball and send it straight toward the target. The one thing is that it is VERY difficult to do, as Jonathon mentions in another video.
wow I haven't seen anyone even trying to slow-mo the pro swing in real-time. That's a feat in itself. What I'm taking from this is get right shoulder down, head almost horizontal while keeping the left hand ahead as long as possible at all cost.
Jonathan, This is really interesting advice. I have a lot of trouble with hitting fat shots, flipping of the wrist and an early collapse of the left elbow leading to erratic shots. I just tried your tip here in the backyard and noticed I stopped taking divots behind the ball. Not only that, I was able to stop the left elbow collapsing at impact (I am right handed).Can’t wait to get back on the course once we get through this pandemic. I hope all my fellow golfers and families out there stay well.....
Outstanding video! I have been obsessed with ideas and drills for fixing early extension, forward shaft lean, clearing the hips, getting the chest open, squatting down, head moving down, and delaying the strike (casting at the bottom). This is the best explanation I have seen for relating all these concepts and WHY it is important to get the hips open at impact. Thank you!
You are one of the best instructors. Thank you for talking about the more important parts of the swing and more importantly the detailed breakdowns. Priceless information
It can not enough be emphasized how important this instruction is, it helped me a lot, thanks again Jonathan
Best instruction i ever hearded in 20 years !
A really good thing to do, in order to feel this... Take an extremely strong grip, and make yourself start the ball right, or hit a low fade. You'll be forced to rotate more, and to add a lot more side bend than what you're used to. You'll also have no choice but to have your hands ahead at impact. You'll need to feel like you're karate chopping the ball, with your left hand. If you roll, or release too early, your ball is going LEFT. This will take more flexibility than what most of us have, but it will give you an idea of what someone like D.J. is feeling. Another note... People with a "weaker" grip need to bow the left wrist at impact, to have their hands ahead of the ball. This also twists the club face closed, so you don't need a "roll" of the forearms to hit it square. It amazes me that D.J. does BOTH(strong grip, bowed left wrist). This takes an amazing amount of flexibility, and ability to "rotate". Experiment with these things. You'll be surprised how well your body will adjust, just by the position of the hands.
This, is an incredible video. An incredible explanation of the contortion necessary to execute a high level golf swing.
How does Jonathan Taylor barely have 45k subs?! This stuff is pure gold!
Perhaps one of the best golf instruction videos ever made! If you can do this you can play golf. A keeper this one to watch over and over again.
Great instructional video. I'm in my 60's, but am having success. I find this helps eliminate the left side of the course as well as making it impossible to snap hook. Thank you so much.
Wonderfully explained!! Love this!
Awesome, can’t wait to watch the upcoming videos on this..
I wish I saw this video 20 years ago, as a “better player” I was always told I was getting stuck at impact and then flip it. Absolutely brilliantly video!
Great video Jonathan. I've watched so many videos, and how you teach really speaks to me.
Absolutely loved this demonstration, very well explained and demonstrated.
wonderful Communication John. Nobody said this better.
An eyeopener för me !Tanks Jonathan !
Thanks for another great instructional lesson... always well done!
Extremely helpful Jonathan It answers a lot of questions! Many thanks Ian
Fantastic! Just yesterday at the driving range I video'd myself and saw that my body position through contact was basically vertical and compared to some pro positions I realized this is keeping me from achieving maximum power. But I didn't know how to fix it. Your video popped into my suggestions at just the right time! Now just need to get back to the range to work on it.
Very interesting focus on impact, and slightly before and after... I like the fact that it is a clear objective, whether you are single plane or two planes
I started doing this only 4 weeks ago and cant believe the launch and distance achieved..Absolutely fab. Now I just have to understand the direction, thats a bit hit and miss at the moment and also I hit quite a few fat shots with irons...but the driver has so much carry. Wow!
That's the move alright. Get that right and your way to enjoying your golf. Great video, Thanks..
Very good clinic, thanks.
This video is exactly what I needed. I've been looking to unlock more power into my golf swing. Videos have shown me that Im too "handsy" and I'm not using my body to properly release the golf club. But... I will definitely emulate these tips. Thanx 👍🏾
Thank you for the tips on attaining this position. I have been working on it for two months and not sure I can perfect it, but your tips will give me
more thoughts to try.
Great demonstration. Thanks.
Good job! Very good and easy understanding instruction. Help me a lot!
Great lesson, something to work on that has visual results and feeling .
Love how you broke it down.. I big on reverse engineering. Pro have this finish look after they hit the ball which I try to replicate. I start there and work myself to the back swing..
I think I realized the secret just by clicking this video. Impact position we hit the ball side-strattle almost.
It’s no secret about the hip turn and the ideal strike position and follow through but all the same Jonathon this is very well described and a really good video 👍
Another great lesson... Thanks!
one of the best videos spot on
Very informative video, thank you for the lesson
absolutely brilliant
Interesting concept. I'll be practicing this move in my living room for the next few months. Thanks for the insight.
...that is really big news, John. Your cats must be seriously impressed.
GOLF DYNAMICS BEAUTIFULLY EXPLAINED GREAT VALUE
superb analysis thanks Jonathan!!
Excellent. ..thanks alot !
Just more great tips that can actually change peoples game. I do think this clip only applies to a very small number of people. If you don't understand the release, and able to do it, then your a dead duck on these moves. I also see body types, balance and flexibility as a real impediment to most golfers today, preventing them from actually reproducing these moves. Anyhow I love the lesson and thanks for the work. The clip you gave surrounding the release has brought me back to a good player once again it was so good, and just the item I needed to work more on. Once you hit a few poor shots in this game,you change the release until you compensate and hit it okay, but the changed release is only a band-aid that never holds up for any length of time. Now I'm back on track.
Great comment D Law
good job. well done.
This s easily the best golf vid I have ever seen and tried! It’s crazy. It works! I cannot believe how many golf vids I’ve watched and no one has ever explain this move.
Great video and contents, well explained !
One of best secrets revealed!
4 birdies in one round just by watching this video. 👌
Good explanation... Very much Trevino
Amazing!!
Hey, you are by far the best at explaining what is actually happening during a golf swing, the physics, forces the club is apply to the golfer and viceversa. I have watched almost all your videos and completely changed my swing over the winter break. Thank you for the great work. I have applied all your teachings, start downswing early before backswing is completed, go into the sitting position, hand path to the left keeping lag tension etc.......... my issue is the middle section of it all..... from the early transition "the move" to the hands by the right hip. You have mentioned before the hand path is like a racing track, initial straight away followed by turning the corner. My issue in the straight away before we get to the corner. I'm confused on how to get there. Lose the angel in the right elbow but maintain lag with pressure. I feel like that pushing down losing the angle in right elbow is the right thing to do to get the club back on plane but having a hard time with putting that whole middle section together with the rest of the swing.
I imagine hitting a puck with a hockey stick..think of the swing like a slap shot
Great video, literally a game changer.
Your theme music made me think you were going to have to golf to save your district
i thought it was that music where he had to save John Connor :) Either way, there's an apocalypse coming!
Interesting concept. Appears to match up with the swings of many Pros. It seems like a hard concept to pick up and will require you to unlearn a lot of what you're currently doing and working on.
I had tried to get to the right impact position for many years. Took many lessons and done swing analysis from golf professionals, watch many RUclips videos on shaft lean and lag. I practiced maintaining right wrist extension, palm face down, adding spine tilt, delaying hit, you name it, but nothing seemed to work for me. Just watched your videos on “The Position” a few days ago and gave it a try at home indoors without a ball (All golf courses and driving ranges are closed due to virus). Noticed my hands are well ahead of the ball at impact, and at least four inches forward compared to my previous swings. Bowing of the back, pushing the hips back and keeping right shoulder and head down do the trick for me. Can’t wait to try it with a real ball on the course or the range. Will need to groove it in.
Light bulb moment - many thanks
The body is a multiple universal joint system. The key is to understand the line of compression and to engineer the machine from that point. On plane motion is efficient. Pivot : angular motion. Hips lead club head lags and resists. You want to generate and sustain the lag pressure. At release the club seeks its inline condition with the lead arm. Any bend in the lead wrist destroys the angular motion. The club actually slows down.
The hip turn seems to be the key when I practice this in slow motion at the impact position the right hand is squared and pointing to target as well as my right knee club face is square great tip JT
Excellent explanation. I still find it astonishing that D.Johnson and B.Koepka can be so shut at the transition and still hit a fade as a stock shot.
Wonderful stuff.
genius ! gonna try it :)
👍🏻 excellent advice 🏌🏻♂️
Good stuff!!
Great explanation!! Goodbye back
Excellent video
I love that, of all the pros in the photos, the only one who looks like he's just taking an easy swing is Ernie Els (10:21).
I would say molinari also looks quite at ease.
The "BIG EASY"
7:40-10:03 is absolutely critical. Preserving the club face angle as long as you can at and through impact. Actually very similar to kicking a football ✅
Honestly that part is crucial, but the critical cap on this is really at 10:50, if you try and simply apply his advice but with all the same wrist angles your going to smash into the ground.
Great observation, I noticed you keep the triangle together throughout the swing. Thx!
Excellent realistic instruction, thanks JT. You nailed it on the head for early extenders at 10:52, “are you kidding I’ll hit it fat”. I’ve been working on this very thing for four years with very limited success. How many times have I’ve hit myself in the face with my own divot trying this move. Not much fun. Yet I continue to try and get there with drill after drill in the gym, range, or backyard. They are all pretty good looking until time to hit the ball. Fat is not really the word, more like excavating as much turf as possible while advancing the ball a few feet. It’s no wonder you see thousands of horrible swings out there, guys just giving up on this difficult move just to get around the course and post a decent score.
Hey all you commenters: If you guys have developed a bulletproof move to accomplish what JT is talking about how sharing with the rest of us. Saying thanks for the video is nice but 90% of commenters are saying this. Do we need hundreds of comments that only say thanks. Maybe share a drill or exercise that has worked for you. I know why Gankas has a great following. Can’t get in the right position? No problem my assistants will physically put you in the correct position. I’ve thought about driving out there myself to correct early extension/lack of rotation. Continuing to grind.
Ulster made a very good point. Leave extremes to the pro’s and many of us older and mid (to higher) handicappers work on easy shallowing based on hip rotation and then develop a little more flex. Looking fwd to the disclaimer.
What a fantastic video session. So clear, concise and well explained. One of the best I've ever seen. Excellent - well done!
I am loving your concept of "The Position" in just about every aspect of the golf swing, including full swings, pitches, chips, and putting. I feel like I'm about ready to take my game to a new level through your instruction of the Position. Thank you for that. Let me just pass you a tidbit of some understanding that I got from another instructor, where he spoke about the "Body Bracing Pattern" aspects of the swing. It's the point at where the body stops, firms up, and begins moving away from the target to provide impetus and speed to the swing. I'm thinking I see this body bracing and pattern as what might be happening in achieving the position as well. It feels like The Position is improved by also feeling the maximum body bracing at that point as well. Does that make sense to you also? Thank you.
Je vais tout déchirer après ce coronavicious, i can feel it !
Great vid Jonathan, looking forward to trying to get into this position, post-lockdown!
Great video
I feel like this is how John Malkovich would be as an instructor.
I think you have given a master class on why most all tour players are getting injured on a regular basis compared with their predecessors of decades ago.
The illustration of the spine shape with the alignment stick should be obvious to everyone that the body is not designed to do that. Also severe downward head movement with the lower body jumping up can only lead to spine compression. I read a statistic that PGA tour players are out injured more often that American Football players. Also that many realise they will have long term health issues and be out of the game in their mid thirties but have a healthy bank account. Strange choice. I think your next video should have a disclaimer 😀🏌️♂️
Disclaimer is coming👍
They were injured back in the day as well! Reverse C remember Nicklaus Millar Weiskopt Seve etc! hitting thousands of balls causes problems no matter which way you swing it!
james fitzgerald . That’s true. Many have had long term injuries and needed hip replacements. However I don’t remember the top players of yesterday being out of action on such a regular basis. Today’s players seem to out more often and their injuries start at an earlier age.
Great post :)
Launching a rocket (the hands) from an airplane (the hips) through impact!
Action is the cause and position is the result!
JT, it would be great if you summarize your instructions at the end. Great information with succinct instructions. Thank$!
I can get into this position reasonably well in my lounge, must try it on the range though. Having had an OTT swing for 30 years, I know something changes drastically when there's a ball there.
My practice swing is inside to out, brushes the grass and wraps around the back of my neck and I could not possibly stop it doing so without incurring an injury. But put a ball there, and I go steeply into the ground, following through about a foot.
Tour players get anywhere from 20* to over 60* open with their hips. It is a huge range.
Let me try it over the Covid period at home. I get the feel that it cd give more time & room for the throw or whip starting a foot or so before impact !! My amateur thought only.
Lovely explanation of the pro impact position here from Jonathon. The video seems to have gathered some criticism with regard to being a cause of back and other injuries. In practice if this swing and the positions it requires is taught and practiced well it will put the least amount of stress on the back, particularly the low back. The lower back (lumbar spine) only possesses the ability to rotate between 5-7 degrees even in the likes of Rory , Dustin and Justin etc. The facet (zygapophyseal) joints at the lumbar spine actively block rotation. The spine’s rotational ability is very different at the mid back (thoracic spine) and neck (cervical spine) where the anatomy of the vertebrae maximise rotation. Along with the hips it is these regions that facilitate rotational movement in the golf swing. If the sequencing of the swing is done well as Jonathon describes it will put the least stress on all of these areas. However, if you do have significant mechanical restriction at your hips or spine you might not be able to achieve these positions in full. I stood and watched a man in his 80’s a couple of years ago hitting mid-irons on a practice area doing these moves exactly applying them within his own range of movement. He didn’t have the range of movement of the pro’s or probably his younger self but he struck the ball beautifully with a lovely compressed impact. Think how many golf balls pro’s hit in their lifetime and compare this statistically with how many develop significant back problems. It’s a really low percentage!
Ive just bought myself an inexpensive selfie stick that has a tripod and a small remote .
Video yourself with you smartphone. It's amazing to see what you are ACTUALLY doing compared with what you THOUGHT you were doing!
E-Z-Peezie! So simple. Not complicated at all.
Good observation. No amateur golfer swings like that. The two important points are you have to give yourself time for your weight to shift to the front heel before your arms come around. The second is you have to think about hitting behind the ball because if your on top of it your going to pull the ball.
I wish I had you tube 20 years ago I would have juiced all over this and be smashing it. Look I could do it now but after two swings I would be in a wheelchair.
I love this position and will try my best to get 20% of this and my swing will be the better for it.
The pros are so good because it's what they do for a living along with hours & hours of practice for years.
Cuz tour professionals hit at least 500 Balls a day. And religiously work on their swings..And yes ..Justin Dohnson has a great Ssshwing
Check out photos of Lee Trevino in his prime. His shoulders are nearly vertical thru impact!
The swing hinges in the hips. The advantage is the ability to use the right hand.
Trevino
Great video. Thank you!