Cuts and Thrusts - Showcasing HEMA
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2016
- Hosts Sean Franklin and Nicole Smith demonstrate the basic concepts of the relationship between cuts and thrusts. This is by no means a comprehensive list, but rather an introduction.
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Swords used:
The longswords are from Szymon Chlebowski
The Messers are from Jan Chodkiewicz.
The rapier Sean is holding is a custom Thibault rapier from Castille Armoury
The Rapier Nicole has is one from Darkwood Armory with a Del Tin blade
The sharp sidesword is a custom Bolognese sidesword from Vladimir Cervenka.
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"Ignoring the fact that we're both about to kill each other, watch the timing of these two attacks."
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Another benefit of the thrust, my son was born.
All jokes aside this was a great video.
Cut with opposition whenever possible!
Another great tutorial!
great beginning video thanks
It would be intressting to hear more about pros and cons of thrust and Cuts. As it don´t matter if one thrusts the enemy a tenth of a second faster if he dies from the cut that follows.
I think scholagladiatoria has some videos on such things :)
These videos are terrific
Awesome video
Cutting into bone is not recommended because the sword can get stuck, thus hacking is not generally used for cut-and-thrust. Slicing is much more optimal where bone is involved.
But the quickest way to end a sword fight is to slice the tendons (wrist or ankle), or insert the point into the abdomen to sufficient depth to cut or puncture organs, without impaling.
(Impaling is also to be avoided b/c it's a good way to lose your sword.)
thanks for yet another interesting and informative video. these videos are especially helpful to me, as there are no HEMA schools or groups near me. What swords were you using in this video?
A long list!
The longswords are from Szymon Chlebowski
The Messers are from Jan Chodkiewicz.
The rapier Sean is holding is a custom Thibault rapier from Castille Armoury
The Rapier Nicole has is one from Darkwood Armory (I believe)
The sharp sidesword is from Vladimir Cervenka, it's a custom piece meant to represent a Bolognese sidesword.
Whoops, the Darkwood armory rapier has a Del Tin blade.
+Blood and Iron HEMA thanks for the response! i really like the messers
Hello, i must say that after a little bit of practice and sparring, although one would always try to stay true to the training of parry and cuts, it isn't always thus, since i usually find myself using the same technique over and over again, unable to parry or cut exactly like during training. And by technique i mean here a quick jab, a quick cut, a small parry here and there, but it's never perfectly executed like during training sessions. I wonder if the medieval manuals have ever explained this, or have you encountered the same problem when you were at the beginning of you swordfighting career?
I'm still a beginner, so I don't know how true this is, but I feel like it's easier to repel an afterblow after performing a cut than a thrust.
with real swords there's less likely to be an after blow at all with a cut.
+Sifuben I'm accounting for situations where the opponent parries or dodges your attack, not just when you land the hit.
It really depends on the particulars of the situation. a cut that misses completely leaves you extremely vulnerable to counter attack. a thrust that comes up short (the most common cause for missing) is usually pretty safe as it means your opponent is pretty far away from you and usually moving further. As for the after blow of an attack that actually lands the consensus is that recovering from landing a deep thrust is more difficult, however, the key to killing and not dying (especially with a thrusting weapon) is attacking ONLY after gaining control of your opponents blade. This can be done in a thousand ways and if done properly the after blow really isn't a worry. Most after hits occur due to the attacker seeing an opportunity to attack and doing so without laying out an exit strategy.
Practitioners should experiment thrusting with explosive power.
You want to practice the thrust and pull back, full force as fast as you can, with a beat in-between reps to make sure your guard is correct. Sets of at least 100 reps are recommended, but 10 sets of 100, every day, is even better when you're starting out.
Once you get used to that, you can practice double thrust before returning to guard.
I've personally validated thrusting to the gorget repeatedly to knock the opponent out of bounds, off a beat cut using longswords. (My first day on the weapon and I had to use it a couple dozen time in succession, before I started to feel bad for the opponent, b/c I was unsure of their capabilities and hadn't been taught anything useful by the HEMA instructor, who had overstated their qualifications;)
For this reason it can be useful to practice thrusting on one leg, so you can thrust in transition with enough force to maintain control of the opponent's body.
Who makes the training longswords they were using near the end of the video anyone know?
Brandon Feeg Check the Video description.
Where did you get your blunt sparring messers from?
bob drenan Swords used are in the video description
What sword is the one shown at the beginning of the video? A sidesword? If it is, is a venetian style one?
It's a bolognese sidesword by Vladimir Cervenka
www.sword.cz/eindex.htm
+Blood and Iron HEMA Thanks!
+Blood and Iron HEMA Thanks!
what were the messers used around minute 1:30?
Those are Ensifer messers from Jan Chodkiewicz.
how do i defeat people with long arms that just stay in long point and thrust at me
Sheilhau is considered the counter for it
0:41 , 1:36 Alert! Broken wrist positions! (sorry guys). Still love your videos :-)
What did they have in terms of effective medical care in the middle ages? Excluding all the weird stuff that did more harm than good.
I thought closing the line between you and your opponent was easier with a thrust?