Edges & Flats - Showcasing HEMA
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2016
- Hosts Sean Franklin and Nicole Smith go through an array of uses of edges, flats and even...hilts? of swordfighting with multiple weapons such as the Longsword, the Dussack, and the Messer.
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Swords Used:
Messers - Ensifer Messers
Longswords - Chlebowski Longsword
Dussack - Custom wooden Dussack
Industrial Cinematic Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Blocking a hit with the hilt...I see a possible meme to rival pommel throwing.
Always parry with the flat of your pommel!
Ahh finally a well done video to explain this topic for us novices.
Yeah, both have their purpose, and both were done. Sword is a tool and if you need a good parry you won't worry that much about a chip in the edge.
I illustrate for a living. That hilt parry was terrifying.
Awesome video guys. This topic greatly interests me and I'm glad you guys finally touched upon it!
At the end, was Mr. Franklin reenacting a certain video of Mr. Clements?
; D
Just awesome.
that's the thing, it didn't matter what part of the sword you parried with, it just mattered that you didn't die! i would dare to say, that in a real situation that you could mentally do a single thought out pary, but after that you're just blocking to stay un hit. love the vids,keep them up!
jprezemexi But ...Throw a cut, parry with flat of my pommel
I personally practice blocking on the strong of the blade if I'm blocking with my edge, I also try to get my edge on their flat (Zornhau) and just straight up using the flat for hanging parries.
Yep, flat for hanging with a thumb grip and then a counter has won me so many matches. It's just so much faster than using the edge. I've not found many other uses for it in application though.
Thanks for sharing your tips. I love your videos. When will you do one video about knife. Say hello to all my friends of B&I
Great video thanks, hey I went to Chlebowski website and could not find those long swordS, were those special ordered ?
I just thought that eermmm hilt parry as a last resort panic move. I think that when you are really panicin about losing your fingers, they really wouldn't be anywhere but out of the strike. Thecnically a bad move = yes, but as panic move it might work. In last resort.
What was the last thing, the flat of he hilt, are their part of the hilt that has a edge?
It was a joke, referencing the "FLATUHMUHSTRONG" hema meme.
I would have thought that a blade would be more likely to break using the flat to parry a hard edge cut.
Yes, though with a proper cutting sword it isn't much of an issue. When you start to get into thin, later period thrust oriented weapons it can be more of a concern.
Trying to party with the flat to preserve your sword is like strapping yourself on the hood of your car to protect the car in case of crashes.
False edge krump!? Mind... Blown!
[Flat of my strong intensifies!]
Whether it's the edge, the flat, the hilt, or the POMMEL
what would you even do with a POMMEL? It's not like you can ... I don't know... throw it...
SlashXVI Even if you can and successfully hit the target, the worst it can give is mildly hurt the enemy. I can imagine it being like the Austin Powers shoe toss scene
(clenches forehead) "That really hurt! I'm gonna have a lump there, you idiot! Who throws a pommel? Honestly! You fight like a pansy!"
What, no Flat of my Strong???
It's in there, somewhere. Keep looking ;)
you misspelled it, it's called Flatamastrang ;)
Any blocks and/or blocks purely with the guard?
You can guard purely with the guard but it becomes very risky. #1 because you are extremely close to your hands. It only takes a slight mistake in judgement, or a slight adjustment by your opponent, and that's your hand. #2 if you opponent catches on to what you are doing they can easily move around the parry and it's hard for you to react from that position. In terms of parrying the cross-guard it there mainly for insurance to increase the safety of regular blocks.
+Blood and Iron HEMA so the cross guard is basically a safety net? just allows more room for possible errors?
It will play a significant roll when working blade on blade contact to execute techniques, but at that point the blades are already in contact and it prevents the sliding into the hands. (if positioned properly...)
I am very new to HEMA but I have studied Silat and several other blade arts for more than 20 years and there is something you are not understanding about what is meant by edge on edge parry. Only two of the movements you showed actually involved direct edge on edge force. Sorry I don't know there names in a HEMA context. The first guard were you showed using the edge to guard against the rising cut and near the end were you showed (I think its called the OX guard) using the edge are the only two that would result in edge on edge force and are also the ones you can avoid most of the time. it the rest the direction of force are at an angle to each other even though the edges make contact. This makes a massive difference to the damage your edge gets with a live sword. Direct force you usually get scallops, angled force just rolled edges and bends.
Love how a common forum quickly ridicules the bullshit.
Ehm... FLATTAMAHSTROOONKK
I cringed on that last one. I like my fingers too much.
I...what? I see how you could catch your opponent's sword on your hilt, but why? Using literally any other part of your sword is safer. It's like Martin "Oz" Austwick said in one of his videos on his EnglishMartialArts channel, there are two rules in HEMA, and rule number 1 is "Don't get hit."
It's definitely not something you should try often ;)
Could it be designed for use during an aborted maneuver?
Keep in mind that technique is from Joachim Meyer. By the time of that manual sword fighting had begun to become sportified and was no longer solely a battlefield tactic and thus some "fancy" but less practical techniques were being used (including stances that would be your immediate demise).
P.S. They're also using federschwert in the picture. Good indicator they're not dueling to the death! ruclips.net/video/oeSbhDSxOJk/видео.html