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all black or white sheep who read my words will receive Jesus healing an level 1 that is always at 11 07 eastren an 23 seconds because I like Michael Jordan. level 1 is a gift can't be taken away. all the other levels an gifts can 10 levels an 40 gifts in all.level 10 projecting thought an memory.
Excellent video my Friend....I discovered Mudfossil Giants the Size you claimed at about 8 mins in. I would love to interact my friend is that possible? Your presentation is fabulous. Thank you. BTW I am doing a video mentioning your channel and a link to this part about Jesus Size...hope thats ok? Al;so I would like you to see my evidence DNA tested Giants over 150ft tall.
I always felt like Christianity had so much potential to make the world better as a philosophy. I also intuitively felt like the religion we have today is nothing like what Yeshua meant it to be.
@@slappy8941 yep, no Yeshua, no Jesus, no G*d, no Satan, no Thor, no Buddah, no Inanna, Zeus ect ect. We've out grown religion. We know why it's thundering. It's not Thor striking his hammer. You aren't fertile because Inanna blessed you.
Making the religion nothing like Yeshua meant it to be was the point. The men who hijacked the religion wanted power, and wealth, and to shape the world in their own image. They were probably really Atheists or working for the other side.
I grew up Catholic, questioned it a lot, and decided not to be at 12. I just didn't believe a lot of what they were telling me. Eventually after much trial and error with other Christian sects and western new age, I found Tibetan Buddhism and settled for that for a long time. Then I lived in India, with Kashmiris, where Sufism is inherent in the culture, and helped Afghani refugees, for years. Both taught me much about Islam. So being constantly surrounded by Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and other Hindu variants, and 3 different branches of Islam, all mostly on a daily basis, I couldn't help but notice the similarities, which I've been looking into since. Mostly academically through historical data. For example, just now, The story you told of being "kept in the dark" in the garden of Eden, and being liberated from it, reminded me of Siddhartha's upbringing. Very difficult to learn, and so eventually gain true enlightenment and liberation , without adversity. My biggest question now is "Why?" Why did God (or insert own ideology here) do it, knowing it was going to cause a lot of suffering? It really pisses me off sometimes, more on behalf of other sentients than for myself. I have come up with a few theories but have no actual evidence to back them up and I still can't fully wrap my tiny, fallible, human brain around the concept of an eternal universe with no beginning or end, just recycling or Nirvana, as Hindu teachings say, so the creation story you told appeased me somewhat. Makes sense along with the cult of Yahweh apparently merging with the cult of El at some point, for geo-political reasons. I think I was born Hindu/Buddhist AND Gnostic/Sufi and just didn't know it. And here I am at age 56, finding some of the holes in my understanding of what I suspect is the big picture, are covered by yet another religious ideology and lesser known doctrines. And I'm loving every moment of it. Please pardon my ramblings. I'm trying to quit smoking and nibbling after dinner. Writing helps a lot. Keeps the hands busy.
I quit smoking at about 54, and it was very difficult. Kicked like a mule for 9 days. After that, I had to go week by week and had to re-arrange my entire life. It was based around smoking, and smoking was a consideration in everything I did and everywhere I went. After six months, I knew I hade made it and would never go back to tobacco. It's been over 11 years now, and I still think it was one of the best decisions I have made. I felt drawn to a book, The Life and Teachings of Gautama the Buddha, in my early twenties. I stole the book from a library and read it. I understood it. The first thing I did was stop stealing. I began to wander as a homeless monk on and off for a couple years, and eventually wrote a check to the library to repay the loss after getting my feet on solid ground. it was miraculous the way God provided for me, so long as I stayed on this path. I eventually returned to Christianity because I was raised Christian, and my family claimed to be for the most part. I had corrected my errant ways and hoped I could help my family. Christianity had seemed to be a show for me. My parents always took us to church dressed up on Sunday, but they were back to smoking, drinking, and cussing by the time we got home. They were decent people, but our family was dysfunctional. I nearly died of a drug overdose at 17. I pursued Christianity for twenty years as an adult, reading the bible, attending bible studies, tithing, all that stuff. I was on a worship team and wrote Gospel music. I eventually left Christianity out of frustration and disappointment. I learned about many of the denominations. It seemed too shallow and superficial and at times just ridiculous (speaking in tongues, fake laying on of hands, etc.). I studied other world religions, became a yoga instructor and learned a lot about Christianity by learning about the other religions. Whereas the Hindu religion grew organically from India after the Vedic texts, it became evident to me that Christianity was created by Rome for the initial purpose of ending Judaism. Later, Emperor Constantine used it as a means to consolidate the Roman Empire, replacing the many mythologies and Pagan religions with Christ. Even Islam (the Moors) once promulgated the acquisition of wisdom and knowledge, pouring through and translating Greek and Roman knowledge and advancing science and technology. And yet Christianity has always seemed to prefer keeping the masses in the dark and the clergy of the church having the knowledge to read, write, and maintain the scriptures to maintain their power over the masses. The past twenty years of the internet has made the world a smaller place, and it has allowed many to contribute to the process of piecing together a better picture of world history. The Christian Church never mentioned the crusades, the Roman Empire's control through Christianity, or the two one-thousand year long Christian empires of the Holy Romans and the Byzantines. Once I could study world history I began to see a clearer picture of how Christianity came about, and why evangelicals seem to be so far out there. They are accepting second or third or tenth hand knowledge of those who don't know much more than they do. They haven't kept up with the advances in our knowledge and still believe that Columbus discovered America and America was founded as a Christian nation. Now I see Christianity and it's acceptance by many in the US and its leadership positions to be in opposition to the world peace process. They refuse any sort of sharing among the nations or religions and insist upon their vision of Jesus returning to earth and ruling as a king from Jerusalem for a thousand years. I am not kidding. I watched a Calvary Chapel sermon on this a couple of weeks ago in a series on Revelations. Their vision of the future is not unlike the Timothy LaHaye "Left Behind" series, which is sadly the most common view of Revelations in America. Before the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim peoples of the world can ever live together, they will need to stop fighting over whose scriptures are true and who really knows God. The Bahai Faith (175 years old) attempts to bring these three religions together in Baha'u'llah, and believe that God sent messengers to all the populations of the world, including Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, and others. Looking at current world events, it seems like a big challenge, one that will require the widespread deconstruction of the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions and a refitting around the Bahai scriptures. Probably more difficult than stopping smoking.
I followed many flavors of Christianity for a while and finally at 42 I found my Pagan roots, specifically Norse and even more specifically Freyja. So many stories passed down throughout humanity. The flood stories may be tied to the end of our first ice age and the melting glaciers covering so many people’s lands. The traumatic stories could be tied to the world’s peoples losing their homes and land to the rising waters. From what I saw it wasn’t a very slow process but was pretty quick. Who knows in the end since the worlds people have basically been playing the biggest telephone game in existence. LOL
The way I see it is that all religion was born out of a way for people to feel like they have control over things they don't, but it always inevitably got choked up by the beliefs and ways of the culture that created it. And, when those cultures became powerful or wealthy often so too did the religious class and ot became yet another kind of chain for just as many as it gave peace to. I sincerely believe that Christianity, Islam & Bhuddism sprang from a sort of desperate defiance of the problems of the old ways, thinking that they were making something better, when all the new ways have just as many problems as the old- maybe even moreso, since these are "conquering religions," who need to constantly move into new places & subjugate them to replace the old. While some conquerors did this, & ancient peoples might have laughed at ways that didn't match their own ways or beliefs, old religions, themselves, didn't do this & the new religion can often be devious, harsh & rely heavily on shaming basic human nature & fear mongering in order to thrive at all. That is their mistake & that is why they are just beginning to die off, today.
If you're still searching, I'd recommend "Bhagavad-gita As It Is", by Bhaktivedanta. It's not Hindu or anything else. It describes not a goal of endless rebirths, and certainly not eternal hell, and not even a materialistic heaven. This commented translation, and others by him, explain and offer a future unlike taught by any religion. (I am a direct disciple of this self-realized author and assisted in publishing these works. I promise you, you'll find answers.)
This was phenomenal. I had heard of some of those 'heretics' before but hadn't realized just how diverse the Mediterranean really was. When I was deconstructing my faith, it struck me so often just how radical Jesus' message really was for its time. Also it's so clear that Jesus says call no one Master, Father, or Teacher for One is your Master, Father, and Teacher. No wonder why Church controlled who could read the Bible for so long. Thanks for all the work you put into this. It was so good!
So your father, your mother's husband, is not your father? Your parents aren't your teachers? The adults, the teachers, who have taught you things- aren't teachers? Explain
@@amyrenee1361 I believe Jesus was saying that his disciples were to treat each other equally. To not regard status or gender or anything that would place one above someone else. That’s why he talked about taking the lowest seat of honor, and why he washed his disciples feet, which was the job for a servant, not a master. It’s quite funny then how quickly his followers left that egalitarian ideal behind and started having bishops and then eventually the pope. Also, regarding natural family, Jesus was quite clear about that you had to let them go, and love him more than anything.
dude everyone can see how much work you put into this, it's an incredible undertaking. I think you should leave up the little headers you put up with the time period instead of fading it out. it helped me follow along and contextualize. thank you so much for the chapters it's so great!
It seems to me that early Christianity was more concerned with ethics and the pursuit of finding one's connection with God and selfless service to the community. What is preached in most evangelical churches today in the US like Christian nationalism, dispensationalism and the prosperity gospel is so far removed from the original teachings
And imo the original church tried to define what’s necessary to get that connection, like some sort of guide. But I guess got too strict and narrow. Then they split into orthodox and Roman Catholic. And from there a bunch of people who said “my interpretation is better” creating hundred of Protestant denominations that got lost in the details and use rock concerts instead of school worship.
The original teachings and idea of the original church died a long time ago, what we see today is just a watered down evolved version of Christianity birthed out of selfishness instead of selflessness. I am personally not a believer btw, this is just what I have gathered from research and observation
New Testament is always struck me as an exercise in antisemitism and acquiescence to greco- Roman imperial power. opposed to Judaism & The Original Testament in its Original language ie Biblical Hebrew.
@@stoggsherfnik4569 Whereas most religions go through a period of "blooming" into a more accessible approach to God, one not requiring a priest class and ability to read scripture, Christianity came to end the law of Moses (that God required animal sacrifices to resolve petty grievances). Rather, love one another and do what it good. Simple and available to all. The Jews were relentless, waiting for their messiah, refusing to cooperate with the Greeks or the Jews. They wanted another David to defeat Rime. The Romans just wanted to make things uniform so that they could efficiently run their empire. I believe that they had significant and major influence over the formation of Christian theology and the religion. It worked. They ended paganism and mass converted the entire empire.
@@killingqueen666 The music is called Ambient. They do this type of music in these types of videos to trick people into thinking that what they are hearing is amazing. When in reality they are not saying anything important.
43 minutes in, the plot is getting juicy, questions need to be answered, my boi’s voice is cracking in anticipation.. I need some popcorn 🍿 This is getting exciting. But in all seriousness, I thought I knew my shit when it came to Christianity and Gnosticism, but I was mistaken. I’m learning a lot.
It’s good to keep in mind most people do not know this; they are not lying but believe false accounts. Most are not intentional falsehood spreaders. Such things do break my heart because in so many religions I have met many genuine people.
@@Maria-ir3dy Why are you even here? Did you come here just to claim your beliefs as actual knowledge and rudely scrutinize the beliefs or questions of others? Your disrespect is unacceptable. You do not know anything so you cannot define what is a lie and what is not. "In the absence of any proof, the true rule is to admit ignorance." -Galileo Galilei
I can't go on. This begins in ignorance of the naming of gospels. Works of literature were named with a translation of the first words of the work, which is usually also the subject. ("In the beginning" becomes the Greek translation, "Genesis." Mark is a Hebrew word which is used in the Old Testament for our first steps in faith--preparation of the heart. Jesus began with 12 disciples/students. Evangelists were sent out and many thousands attended his meetings on the hills. 70 more disciples were called and then "the other 70." The gospel of John represents class notes of one of the most advanced students. So, the gospels are from four different classes of students. The mysteries there cannot be comprehended without "eyes to see" and having already learned the lessons of Mark, Matthew and luke. We are not going to learn much from RUclips. Faith is a journey. If you have felt the love of God drawing you, make a decision to believe. People believe what they choose. That's why it's called faith. Evidence follows. One day, you will receive your evidence, but not be believed. I could tell you about my evidence. But you really need your own experience. It begins with God talking to you through the Bible. These words were actually "breathed" into the ear and written down. And you can talk to God (prayer.) You will find that God's word is answering your prayer. ▪︎. Get together with others and remember that we are all imperfect.
@@sstafford2213 Wrong. Everything originated from penises. even you and me. including everything we do. so actually the Sumerian gods and culture originated just like everything else from dicks.
As a follower of Christ myself This is undeniable. I’ve never seen a video on RUclips where almost everything in this video can be backed up with EVIDENCE from the time Christianity started. This is amazing work
This was absolutely reality warping and thought and soul changing. This is one of the best documentaries I have seen ever. Period. The amount of work and effort and care put into this is beautiful and appreciated and very eye opening into how complicated theology/esoterica really is if you do not have the ears to hear and the eyes to see; if you don't know what you're looking at or what you're looking for!!! Thank you so much and I'd really like to donate to this channel which I've only ever done for Crash Course (PBS) but this is deserving of support!!! This was amazing, seriously. You went into the deepest depths with this one and shone a light. All meat, no fat, straight to the point in bold, clear and annunciated. Thank you!!!
Too bad most of his facts are wrong. He finds the most outlandish scholar and quotes him as the authority, when there are 100 who disagree. And on it goes!
Yes because Catholicism was infiltrated by gnostics after the knights Templar went to Jerusalem and they worship John the Baptist as the man who gave Jesus divinity. There is no gnostic interpretation of the Bible that makes sense
@@nicksothep8472 Jews, Muslims and Christians all worship the angel Satan, the god??? of Beth-el .. Genesis 31:11- 13.. which means the Lord of Israel Hashem the Destroyer Shemot 12:23
It is not a particular religion or church that is important but after expanding your consciousness, one begins to realize you are more than just your body, mind and emotions! It was after I realized my divinity and my sovereignty, then I started receiving revelations, divine messages and brought me to the point of where I come from, that I have a soul, an aspect of God-life in me!
There is no grounding with this idea. There are no answers to common moral questions for the everyday person "Should I vote? is contraception allowed? Is stealing ever moral? Is lying ever moral? Is money okay? How do I understand Jesus' divinity? Etc." this is why we need a church with authority
@@a.ihistory5879 for the church to lie even more? Nobody needs the church for morality. You're either a decent person or you're not. The church has been nothing but vile throughout its history. How much war and genocide has been done in the name of your god? How many people raped, murdered, torture, and theft? Europeans are especially known for that. Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Alaska, Canada, WW1, WW2. Please, tell me, what good has your god or your people done?
i am supremely impressed with your research depth and scope. This not easy info to find. It take digging and asking the right questions of research engines, muddling thru ancient and difficult texts, and keen intuition and pattern recognition skills. You have done brilliantly with this presentation. You have managed to network together so many ancient mythologies and histories into a cohesive, powerful account that not only does not intellectually diminish the awe of Universe, it validates just how fucking big the story of humanity and interstellar spiritual dimensions are.
Thank you. Will need to listen to this several times. I tried reading several "Gnostic" books but this gives lots of context and a better understanding.
This is so amazingly comprehensive that I'm going to have to watch it a couple more times to absorb it all. Thank You So Much!! I don't know what else to say... I'm speechless.
Dear Neal, thank you very kindly for producing this. In my many years of seriously studying religions, I don't think I have heard anything more accurate, more stop-on, and all encompassing. There's so much in this, it needs to be viewed or listened to -- by everyone, and multiple times. You really put together a perfect picture, of the complex synergy involved with the development of Christian thought and it's deep connections to other religions, realms, and cultures. Bravo! Seriously, this thing deserves some type of RUclips Academy Award, if there is such a thing. So well presented, clear, awesome images, perfect music, outstanding editing and pacing! WOW! My hat is off to you, bro!
Try explaining this to a fundamental Christian family during Thanksgiving dinner. I accepted a more allegorical interpretation of the bible when I discovered content like this: great stuff.
@@carrierichardson6619 Good luck on that endeavor. I once got into an argument with my mother (frequent really) and I asked her "Mom. Who is Abraham?" She replied "I don't know, a prophet?" I asked her "You have been going to church for fifty years and you still don't know who Abraham is? What the hell have they been teaching you?" Then again, my dad never found a sermon that wasn't the perfect opportunity to take a short nap through. To them Christianity was a social function. They called themselves Lutherans and belonged to a club that happened to have a retirement plan called "Heaven". They never read the bible because that's what they paid their pastor to do for them. They paid their dues (only 5% but that was a lot) for over fifty years. I love my parents and miss them. I still have an eggnog with Rum and Kahlua for the holidays to honor them. Some people just aren't into all this sort of stuff.
@@Scott_works But it is nice to see what makes them tick.and kinda gives ya more folks to talk. Collaborate and laugh with SMH with others while saying that was interesting I'll have to watch this again.take notes and put them in the crazy beliefs it's all a distraction they are mining laundering money ie stealing in the name of humanitarian they are neither human nor without blood of his neighbors on their hands. diabolical Data ......
This must have taken you months to prepare. Well done and thank you. I learned a lot. You have distilled an enormous amount of information into this single lecture
Yes there are around 50+ gospels that were refused to enter the Bible. Mainly because they didn't follow the narrative of the mainstream religious groups.
It is driven home so hard from the church & Bible not to add or take away from the Holy Scriptures. Meanwhile, so much is lost in learning & gained in fear for learning. Chaotic trying to decide whether to read or ignore it started with Enoch finely & am branching out in studies such as this video which really helps to tie things together. Thank you for all you studies & efforts to bring all this information to us. ❤️🙏🏻
There were four main steams of Christianity in the first and second century AD. (Apostles, Pauline, Marcian, and Gnositc). Three were done away with by Rome as they made the religion as literal as possible and ensured the church held the power. They made it Orthodox, and Pauline - centric.
@@saransong5547 Google "Banned From the Bible" and you will find the Nag Hammadi cache with all the forbidden books. It becomes obvious that people were making this stuff up and embellishing the stories, such as the story of Jesus' childhood. The Catholic Church ordered them destroyed and those caught with them were tortured or killed.
Letters from Ignatius, letters from Polycarp, First Apology from Justin Martyr, Against Heresy by Irenaeus. We actually have plenty of anti-Nicene documents when you consider the kind of persecution the Church was facing. Find your nearest Orthodox Church and come attend Divine Liturgy! ☦️☦️☦️
Facts but me being a truck driver man im in heaven having the freedom to learn and experience so much miles of divine creation simultaneously. It's like a mental orgasm‼️
Amazing compilation here, and thank you so much for this. I have been researching the Gnostic Gospels and trying to understand the obvious discrepancies of biblical teachings. This video has been very enlightening, and puts these ideas together in a way that is easier to understand, for me. Cheers!
What do I think? I think this video is genius You offer the narrative, counter narratives and more of a rounded view of the early church than I have ever seen. Amazing. Very refreshing for a Christian truth seeker imo.
I honestly would like to assist you with this. If your question is rhetorical, great. If you question represents that my statement is confusing...that's a diagram the sentence thing. If you want to know what Christian "truth" buddhist "truth egyptian "truth or any truth you will find the ultimate "truth" within you. There is but one truth and an infinite amount of ways to view it. Oh..and there are "more" truthful ways to view it , than others. One other thing, the ultimate "truth" being observed and the observer can become "one"..so..that's also a thing. Your name indicates you know all this, so hope you do and hope your sharing it@@ahenathon
@@peterhook2258 My name is not reference to the Sun. It is random sounds I made up to sound soundly and epic. By adding "Christian" to the "truth" we tell the story, noting else. It is unlikely that the truth resemble human logic. At least not the whole truth. Our minds are tuned to reality and everything out of its bounds is supernatural. Therefore we can not touch it by any means. Everything "spiritual" taps to archetypes of the human mind. It is barely a glimpse of truth.
Correct and since we are human we can describe and use our own language to point at those archetypes , hence my adjective Christian (not your definition of it). And if we both understand the concepts of archetypes you can understand the elephant analogy often used to describe "God". And if you don't know that analogy, familiarize yourself with it as it is applicable to what we are speaking of, and what I am speaking of when I say "Christian". In the story the elephant does indeed have a rope although the others may disagree, however the one that understands more of the elephant knows...it is indeed an elephant, indeed part of it is ropelike..ie Christian Truth is truth (not your understanding of what I mean ). Now if you have "ears to hear" then you get this, if you don't you don't). also..the elephant has ears too. In other cultures you will hear the elephant described as Islamic Truth, Buddhist Truth etc but the archetype cares not what you or I call it, nor that we describe it in human language which is necessary for communication in a youtube post. Peace@@ahenathon
Amazing job but what saddens me is that too many commenting below think this makes everything these former groups taught a lie. Myths awaken the subconscious mind and can spark genuine experiences of apotheosis. Zoe /Sophia is a particularly potent archetype as every mystic, myself included, can testify. She is the spirit of life that commingles with you in ecstatic bliss that the ancient ones called being twice born. It is an out of body timeless experience of profound peace and wellness beyond words. I know because it happened to me.
I'm with you These details only enliven my faith as a Byzantine Catholic Glory to Jesus Christ, the Son of God Glory to Zoe, the breath of God Glory to God the Father of all Another tradition to check out is the Hermetic - specifically the Poimandres (Shepherd of Men) text. Also Neo-Platonic writings by Iamblichus and Ploninus All of these have enlivened my faith better connecting me to the origins of the ancient path
They are false, it is pretty clear to historians that gnostic documents do not come from first century Jewish writters, unlike the canon documents, that have so much information that only a first century Judean ould know.
@@silusmkhwananzi3121 No that is the opposite Marcion is the first to assemble the first proto New Testament and he is called a gnostic Did you even watch this? This is well known scholarship The 1800's are over. We now know many so called Gnostics like the Valentinians were as early as the so called Orthodox
I'm going to need to watch this several times and look forward to reading your references. I do believe that the biblical book of Revelations was really about the fall of Rome because I've gone down a few rabbit holes too. Love your videos, please keep making these!
I find a lot of funny correlations involved in what ancient people were asking. Jews wanted a Messiah to make them a mighty people with the greatest empire the world has ever known worshipping their God. They got a Messiah who may or may not exist or may be an amalgam of several different people making a new religion who worships their God thay conquered most of the earth and wanted all the Jews dead as heretics for most of that time. The Christians wanted Rome to fall and be replaced by the kingdom of heaven. Rome fell- after Christianity pretty much became Rome & they got the Dark Ages.
Great job on this video, Neal. The video is packed full of interesting history and the images are beautiful. You did a great job narrating this video too. I just love your longer documentaries, like this one. ❤
What a masterpiece, Neil. Mind is now completely blown, I always suspected that, Christianity's origin was evident in mystery cult. I think it will take me several years to go through all of this. This should be in a doctral disertation. I do have one question, I wonder why you still believe in an historical Jesus? I would have thought that you would believe the opposite.
Excellent video. As a student of biblical history, you fit a lot of information into this one video. It does really whet the appetite for someone who is interested in early Christian history.
Absolutely loved this! Thank you 😊 I was a slave to Christian indoctrination up until recently. This is by far the most in-depth discussion I've been introduced to. This was my first time watching your channel and I'm excited to see what else you have shed light upon! 🎉❤
ITS kind of funny how your video thinks it is sharing the truth... In fact all the time you put into it might seem laughable too. Your argument is like getting bit by a black dog and then you as a kid making a rule that says all black dogs are bad because they bite. Then further going on to reference how all black dogs should be aborted because they are prone to bite and be dangerous. YOU wasted our time. this video is one big waist of your breath too. YOU SHOULD JOIN ISLAM BECAUE THAT IS BETTER THEN FOLLOWING THIS CHANNEL.
You can seperate God from religion, and I say everyone should do so. That there is a Creator God, and yes Jesus was his son who died for all humanity. That much is true. But to think the writings in the bible are divine and without error, and how most religions practice a faith that is "do as I say, not as I do" you can see the practicality of what I say. A perfect example is he Catholic church who for hundreds of years from the beginning of the church held Sunday service in Latin, but 99% of the people did not speak or read Latin you can see the problem. Also, Sunday not Monday is the first day of the week, and the calendar used to have 13 months of 28 days each and was based on the moon not the sun. It was late 1700's when there was the change to our new calendar. I have not the reason why, except to screw everybody up. But if you wish to find oneself, and learn about God one must look inward to oneself and connect to their soul. Through your soul are your prayers heard. Just remember to maybe hit the Big Guy up on any day but Sunday as he is a bit overwhelmed on that day. lol Man is all 3 mind, body, and spirit. And all three must be cared for equally to be a full healthy complete person. If you feel there is something out of balance in your life (and hanks to modern world) that imbalance is most likely caused by caring primarily for the body, and not the other two. It's not your fault, it is how we have been taught incorrectly primarily due to religion. You know that voice in your head when you "think"? That's your soul. Listen to it as it is your moral guide in the world and whether you are not following the path God wanted for you, or one in the material world. Which again is the exclusively the body, not mind and spirit. Also understand the 3 have different personalities. Yes you have 3 personalities, not 1, or 2 that work together to make your whole. Remember God kept it simple and for a reason with the 10 Commandments. It's really not hard to follow, just do not covet. Work for want you want and if faithful and live a good life it will come to you. When men covet is when they sin. Now for fun check out Kinesin Proteins. It will blow your mind. And prove to you something everyone asks: Is God real? I'll let you decide. Looking inward will also give you that answer. It is when the soul is cared for, and it is stimulated that it is the soul that heals the body. Just make sure you give the soul the materials to build back what has needs fixed. How do you stimulate the soul, mind and spirit? Music! Which is the only way the soul can be stimulated. Music is so very important. Tesla said if you want to understand the mysteries of the universe think in terms of frequency, vibration, and energy. Music fulfills all 3. Good music, not that stuff they sing at most churches with just an organ. Though a few have figured it out. lol. Now go live a life caring for the world and all in it, especially the animals and natural world. That still is mankind's number one job. Then, go do what you love! Serious. You are allowed to do that believe it or not. At least if you don't live in North Korea anyway. lol! (listening to the "wrong" music in North Korea can get you in front of a firing squad. No lie. So if you don't live their, or any other shitty country, you're already on the right track. Now feel blessed and go live your life!)
@@johannjohann6523 THE BIBLE CANNOT BE DIVINE. IN REVELATION A WARNING IS GIVEN ABOUT ADDING TO OR TAKING AWAY FROM THE BOOK. IF A WARNING IS NEEDED, IT WAS DONE. IF IT WAS DONE, IT IS NOT DIVINE.
@@michaeldeanleonardo4621 I agree. ANY book that spends so much of itself trying to CONVINCE you why it is The Divine Truth, and why it is the ONLY truth, and why it alone should be believed (and even THREATENING YOU if you don't believe it!), should be disregarded as so much dust blowing in the wind. That doesn't mean that there isn't sound ideas in it...even an U.S. Army Field Manual with instructions for a Claymore Mine, that tells you to exercise extreme caution with it, and to assure that you point the appropriate side of the weapon toward the enemy, has SOUND IDEAS in it. But The Truth, THE BIG TRUTH, just IS, and that is ALL it EVER needs to be....The Truth is NOT going to waste one moment trying to convince you or cajole you or THREATEN you into believing it, because The Truth doesn't care one tiny little bit whether you believe it or not, because it is still The Truth either way. The Truth does NOT NEED your belief (...or your MONEY, for that matter...)!! It just IS.
First time in a couple of decades I've seen anything in Christianity that seemed so pure and true. Beautifully done. I am and always be a Pagan, but I'm grateful to see this side of the neighbor's faith.
what we know for sure is that JESUS CHRIST = DEMON FALSE GOD. the bible sound alike "emo jesus cutted his veins for us. you should thank emo jesus who cuted his veins for you. otherwise his father would have throw all humans in hell ! obey the one who cutted himself for your sins or stay in the lake of fire for daring not believing ! there is no God exept emo jesus ! emo jesus is a jealous god and he who does not hate his parents to be emo with him is not a true disciple of him"
I guess the "you're kidding" commenter believes that you can get your truth across to people by insulting their beliefs and acting arrogant. If your point is to try to assurt the validly of your point, you have lost already. No one listens to someone who disrespects their beliefs. I learned this not from a Pagan, but from a Missionary who went to New Guinea in the 50's to preach to actual Cannibals and Headhunters. Listen and learn, folks. These wise Missionaries *never* ridiculed or criticized these people's heartfelt beliefs. They hunted with them, built nuts with them, and shared stories around the campfire. They calmly said "you believe this, we believe that".The point here is shared. They tried to build a bridge, not put up a wall and feel they are superior and get Brownie points from God. Attitudes like this only drive people away. I'm personally not interested in converting into Evangelical Christianity but for those who claim they are trying to save people it amazing how they don't notice how they are only driving people away God with comments exactly like this.
Great informational video. Could you please provide all the references, perhaps a bibliography of all the sources you found this information from? Could you also provide the list of scholars mentioned mid video that were of the opinion that Marcion had the authentic epistles?
Gnosis takes away the Lack of Knowledge of Understanding (Ignorance), which one must contain both married together which creates "WISDOM" the principal thing. The application in a life which lights the path. As dawn shines brighter and brighter unto the noon day.
Whatever you conclude, questioning your beliefs occasionally is always a good thing, always an opportunity for growth. I hope that you can find your truth.
@@MinisterRedPill I went from baptist to atheist to anti-theist to a chaote-pagan quantum-animist who views gods as egregores, as man made works of art worth understanding and integrating, as the shadows cast by the jungian archetypes on human culture. The gods of various cultures got along fine with various scuffles and the practices of various peoples evolved ethically alongside Philosophy until this one god who was really into genocide and human sacrifice ( read numbers lol ) claimed a monopoly on religion and demanded the followers of all other gods be killed or converted, and for an entire tradition of female scientists to be burned at the stake for hundreds of years, at the same time as convincing people to hate their body and their desires. Religion has really went downhill ever since the blood god took over imo, so my personal spiritual project is to combine a historical approach to the concept of deity with an approach to practice that blends Jungian mythic analysis with nature worship. We either become a symbiotic species or the host body will purge the parasite. Dogmatic materialism and Abrahamicism both reduce Gaia to dead property to plunder and both roads lead to death.
I also looked and went rocor for a touch- my hunger and homesick like feeling for ancient ways brought me there and then even further back. There’s some kind of spark there but I know there’s even more farther back.
@@WyrdAl so how do you know your stop is the truth? Sounds to me you should continue to keep questioning what you believe, until you fall headlong into a black hole, because you'll never find the truth if you're never satisfied. Questioning and questioning until at last, you realize your choice is still merely based on what you belief.
Dude! This is the most intricate deep dive into the early Christian history I've ever come across in public forums ever! This is the stuff that gets taught in Seminary school... nice job 👏
@@ThingsThatMakeYouAskWHY Do they actually teach all this in Seminary? It’s amazing how so many people keep following one path after studying all this.
@KristineBette yeah they sure do teach that. Honestly, the Catholic priesthood functions like a secret society that seeks to control the masses. Most priests DON'T believe in the doctrine they teach. It's all for power.
You and Derek are doing what no other's have done before each of you. I suggest starting an online university-level course to teach people the truth on how these religious ideas formed in Christianity. Excellent work 👏 ❤
University-level would probably avoid distorting existing evidence to fit preconceived ideas: At 31:31 he cites letter of Pliny’s to Trajan, using it as evidence to claim “Ironically this goes against every Christan apologist claim about so-called martyrs who would die for something they know is true, yet these Christians when pressed would worship the image of Emperor Trajan and curse Christ in order to save their lives.” Yet in the same letter, just the sentence before the one which he cites, Phiny writes: “I have taken this course about those who have been brought before me as Christians: I asked them whether they were Christians or not? If they confessed that they were Christians, I asked them again, and a third time, intermixing threatenings with the questions. If they persevered in their confession, I ordered them to be executed”. Phiny himself stated that he executed Christians who did not renounce Christ, irony indeed. It is impossible that he missed that sentence by accident since it is part of the same passage from which he starts to cite Pliny, only intentionally butchering it so it would fit his ideas. By doing such things if you believe that you are agent of Truth who is here to enlighten others, you are deluding yourself, and far worse deluding others who trust you. As with sensationalist newspaper articles so is with such sensationalist RUclips videos, they distort reality a lot in order to fit it in their preconceived views. If you are looking to learn the “truth” about Early Christianity this channel is not the place for it, nor is the Path towards God through RUclips. Phiny letter: www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/pliny.html
Very educational ! It helps to open up the subject of the world of humans and their religions. Having spent my first decade and a half believing what my parent's taught me, I see how people, since the beginning of our species, have tried to explain who and where we came from, and assigned various "gods". As a boomer now, I can only say our existence is still a great mystery, and no one has the real and final answer (I don't think we are meant to have one). But "Informant" (Neal?), you are helping to explain how we got here, and for that I thank you.
It's pretty simple, be kind and control your reactions to adversity not question why things are happening to you. We do not know eternity nor the affects of ripples in space time. Your butterfly affect to history is only known and appreciated by those who can read the eternal. Who you touch and who you teach are unknown to you as is their contributions to the cosmos. Everyone and everything matters, good and bad.
How is he explaining how we got here if thousands of others have tried to explain how we got here and u didn't beliyit but here comes this guy reading here and there n now he completely has erased ur doubt on wat the Bible says .. come on now there are artifacts that prove the word of GOD IS CORRECT 💯 BUT A MAN JUST SPEAKING ON A YT VIDEO GETS U TO REALIZE THAT THE BIBLE IS WRONG LOL ... BUT WAIT FOR IT ... ITS EASIER TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT HAS NO FACTS TO IT THEN TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT HAS REAL FACTS THAT CAN PROVE THAT WE GOT HERE ONE WAY AND THAT IS .. AND GOD SAID LET THER BE LIGHT !!!!!!! DON'T ALLOW THE DEVIL TO TAKE UR MIND FROM YHE TRUTH AND TAKE IT TO THE FALSE GODS THEY SPEAK ABOUT ..
The answer is within, and if humanity can ever get a breather from this controlled illusion of reality, we will understand death without fear in knowing there's no death of the soul but reincarnation of the physical.
I understand the nature of the Word, and the beautiful celestine halls of divine manifestation created by the Logos. It is natural to spin the word, just as the earth spins on its axis. It is normal. Like a yard stick, it may be bent and still measure, but when bent too much will break and can no longer measure a span. The Word is flexible and can be bent to a certain extent, so long as it contains its truth. But when bent too far, when broken, it becomes a lie, and all the truth runs out of it like the innards of an egg.
"WHAT IF I TOLD YOU..." [*Morpheus voice] ALL this is based off the Story of Creation that evolves around the accounts of the Annunaki that lead up to the genetic engineering of the homoerectus to then copulation with the offspring of them! RELIGION WOULD NOT EXIST if not the whole idea of the Annunaki making their human creations to worship them for granting life it's as simple as that!
"What reason would jews have for deceptively telling that Jesus' father was Pantera?" In ancient times, people vehemently hated anyone they thought was a heretic. The non-Christian Jews wanted to suppress all Christianity. It is easier if you call the new prophet an illegitimate child.
New Testament is always struck me as an exercise in antisemitism and acquiescence to Greek paganRoman imperial power opposed to Judaism & The Original Testament in its Original language ie Biblical Hebrew. It’s purpose was to make Judaism into fly-over country.
This is an extraordinary piece of work. Thank you! I will definitely have to rewatch it. What about all the cult activity? Where does it fit into what you've presented here? And, do you ever read anything about Manahen? I've got a hunch about him.
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes). In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance. The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam. Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism. It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world. In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra. El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia. It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus. The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu. The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.) Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea. The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC. _Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19. The name "Pharoah" means "Great House" or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic. "As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila. The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on. Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island. The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years. Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar" When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze. Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
isn’t there a massive debate on whether or not Pythagoras was even a real person? the first texts written about him were 150 years after he supposedly died, and those weren’t detailed either. the first detailed texts about his life were written by his followers 800 years after death. to add further, “he”wasn’t even the first to discover his theorem.
Great collection of facts. You have definitely been researching. I wonder about the name Shiva. In Hinduism, Shiva is part of the trilogy of Brahman, Vishnu, Shiva. In Judaism, Shiva is a name for God I believe. I saw it on Jewish temples in LA and wonder about how the two religions share the same name. The number nineteen is a sacred number in Islam. When I discovered the Metonic Cycle of the Sun, Earth and Moon I understood why. The Solar and Lunar clocks reconcile every nineteen years, to the day, to the minute. I also studied the Zodiac and hexadecimal number system and am fascinated by much of the knowledge you have accumulated. The knowledge of the stars, the planets, the circumference of the earth, the origin of the meter and the foot, the sacred numbers, and the language of mathematics is truly fascinating. Much of this knowledge and more is found in ancient Egypt and other neolithic sites around the world. Leave it to the Roman Catholics to replace real knowledge and understanding with a book written in Latin that only they can read and understand. The feathered serpent? Isn't it a fact that birds evolved from dinosaurs, reptiles? They are related in the distant past. It is interesting to study and discover how the Jews, growing up in the midst of the Egyptian, Assyrian, Hittite, Babylonian, Phoenician, and Greek empires have borrowed a lot of their mythology and origin stories. A deep dive into Greece reveals quite a bit about the Bronze Age and prehistoric times. Their mythology and origin stories are fascinating.
@@Scott_works feathered serpent is a reference to the King of the Phoenicians, the Messiah or Seer, who is wise as a serpent and as gentle as a dove. The dove is Columbia, the Goddess of Death and Suffering, aka the Holy Spirit. It also relates to the Pharoah and John the Baptist, specifically the Summer Solstice, and to a white egret or Heron perched upon the back of a dragon (Alligator, etymology of the name is interesting, Alli, Illa, Illiad, Ennead, all references to the 9) So in a sense a feathered serpent is the return of Storks or Egrets that sit upon the backs of gators heralding the flooding of the Nile. India still celebrate the appearance of Pleaides and Sirius at that time, and the Maori do too in Winter Coincidence? Nah Flip the map upside down and you have your answers
And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? JêsûsCrîst
Excellent video. It’s enjoyable when the voiceover is done yourselves instead of the ai, it’s the personal touch that makes these documentaries more memorable.
1:12:52 Its not only biblically accurate, but it also fits in a more larger view the west Semitic culture, that the God of the sun is always associated with justice and judgment. 1:39 I have never see a such elaborate and complete diagram of the gnostic theogony, I'm impressed ! Your videos improve in quality each time, bravo 👏🏼 !
I totally agree with what many have said before me...i love this documentary and will be using this as an educational tool for myself... As i will need to watch this several times, while taking notes... In order to really appreciate and soak in the knowledge here. Thank you so much for putting in your time and effort to bring this to the world... Most amazing stuff here!!!
Gentlemen... This epic, scholarly look into the early Christian religion will soon become a classic. The weaving together of all the different details that influenced those early Christ believers is just what believers, non-believers and those who don't know what to believe, needed to understand the people, the cultures and how their various beliefs created something that started outt with Christ's humble teachings. Truly great work.
LOL outrageously ridiculous. this is an opinion piece and assumptions not based on much fact. a little here and there perhaps. mostly based on revisionism and unenlightened pagan belief mindset. FICTION.
There is so much information to process in this video. I feel like I’m hearing it but can’t process it at the speed it’s being given to me. Will have to revisit this many times, thanks!
Thanks for this video, it was really informative. I find it very tricky trying to educate myself on the first century on Christianity. I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and they too claim to have the "correct knowledge" of the scriptures and claim to be what the first century Christians were really like. They were founded in the late 1800's by a guy who mixed Freemasonry/Gnosticism with Christian Protestantism to create his own doomsday cult. I find is fascinating how much people look back to this time period and try to uncover the secret knowledge that these people might have had using only fragments of documents. This stuff will be debated over forever it seems.
bravo Gnostic Informant! Ive been following this beat for years and i have never seen such a rich treasure trove of scholarship all in one video. this is information that needs to be out there, you have done a great service thank you🙏
What are your sources for the dates you give early on in the video for the dates of the canonical books you talk about? Eg, you put the date of the synoptic gospels much later than historians generally ascribe.
Now THIS is Bible study "in context". Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤ Honest to goodness if the economy didnt tank and I had the money liked I used to 3 years ago, I would help you each month. I am going to have to try to figure out how to send you a little bit just as the smallest thank you I could even give.
@@mjt1517 I totally get you. I do it as a thank you for all their time and effort and my enjoyment. I couldn't do monthly but I believe in giving as much as I can, even when I'm down.
"than a Mormon is from a Catholic." Yes, this is quite true and I figured this out myself. Nice to hear some confirmation of this. The Earliest Christianity was truly diverse. And the pre-Christian religion of Jews and others was also very diverse.
Great question, Neil: who was Paul writing to? I kind of remember that Paul mentions in one of his letters some old congregant who has been in the church since childhood. Anybody knows if this is true? If true, the chronology is incompatible with the consensus dates for Jesus and Paul.
The fact that I just had a spiritual reawakening and my name is Sophia... That thumbnail paired with the title felt almost as if I was being directly addressed.
Wonderful!. I have been working on a theology that I can understand, and was thrilled to hear in the vid that the early believers believed very closely the understanding that I have come to. I studied the Gnostics ( probably in a superficial haphazard way) because the gospel was just too simple as it was portrayed to me at that time. I have just ordered Mead's book 'Fragments of a Faith Forgotten' about the Gnostics that I had burnt forty years ago in line with the fearful superstitious phobia of the religious institution that I eventually got sucked into for a season of time -ha. My theology is centred around the Most High's desire to have family. The Word, the Logos ((Christ Spirit) was always in His mind, just as the feminine side of His nature ( the Holy Spirit) was as well.( as now is confirmed as Sophia). So in a blooodless creation (as in John's gospel), the Father and "Mother" brought forth the Logos as the only begotten Son. This was the first family. The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and as a child called Jesus, grew in wisdom, learning from the Logos within him. He was baptised by John and received the Holy Spirit of the Most High from his "Mother" , and at that point became Jesus the Christ.- the Logos - who being the last Adam, being made in the image of his parents, was both male and female, just as the first Adam was before Eve was made ( so that Adam could fully appreciate this side of his character) a companion for him and from him as the start of a larger family---------this is just the start -ha. The Gnostics had a book called Pistis Sophia which means Faith and Wisdom, so Sophia is Wisdom personified. Cheers. 😊
Regarding Zeus, instead of ‘zoos’ shouldn’t we be saying ‘zayoos’? As in Deus? As in Perseus, Theseus, Wolfgang Amadeus, and everywhere else the suffix ‘-seus’ is used?
I am a exmo and it's just been a really rough time since I left. Shunned and refuse to help me if I dare to actually need any help from my supposed fellow friends and parishioners
Well done - thank you so much for presenting this information in such an accessible format - I know how hard it is to do this style of video -maybe we could do a collaboration together one-day?
What I know for sure is that saying the name JESUS out loud to start what I thought would be my final words and prayer made the “Demon Tree”, for lack of any better description, release my chest from it branches up high and the roots that came out of the ground, wrapping around my ankles also released and I ran for my life looking back to see a mean wincing face in the bark of the tree. I never wanted to go back there again….
I studied a Fam Trad called Tower for awhile until they respectfully declined to teach me anymore because I wasn't a relative. The Matriarch made this decision. Instead I studied and was initiated in Anderson Feri Tradition and I know that it was ultimately the best decision for me. I deeply respect the Family Traditions though. Feri is much more of an esctatic Mystery Religion, it's not Wicca, Tower was Kitchen Witchery and Feri was a better "fit". I also deeply resonate to the Sufi rituals, especially Zikr, and Thunder the Perfect Mind from the Nag Hammadi is incredible. I enjoyed this video very much, it was familiar to me.
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes). In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance. The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam. Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism. It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world. In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra. El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia. It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus. The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu. The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.) Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea. The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC. _Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19. The name "Pharoah" means "Great House" or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic. "As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila. The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on. Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island. The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years. Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar" When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze. Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
@@RealPathfinder3 In 582 B.C., at Sidon, Mnesarchus and Pythias had a son. They named him, too, in the Pythian tradition. He was Pythagoras (pith-AG-or-us). The family moved to Samos, which some sources list as Pythagoras's birthplace. All you had to do was fact check *YOURSELF* 🤡
Minor thing at 1:04:32 Marcion's canon didn't have "Acts", it had the misnomered "Proto-Luke" or Evangelion. It's important to note that the earliest record we have of something resembling Luke is detached from Acts, and saying that Marcion had a version of Luke-Acts suggests that Marcion had a story about the apostles in his Gospel, which he certainly did not.
Wait, what exactly is the lie? It is of course common knowledge that there were Gnostics and other alternative believers at the beginning - which is of course what is to be expected. Imagine if a miracle like the resurrection happened today. Some people (the close followers of the person) would get his ideas right, while others would try to hijack this and make it fit with their existing beliefs.
@@Dussmasterzero This is NOT the current understanding of where/when the Gospels come from, you are quoting from about 30-40 years ago's understanding. All 4 of the major gospels are now believed (with alot of evidence) to be written within the lifetimes of many of the disciples.
@@chrismcaulay7805 I guess you have no idea how the Orthodox not only gathered up & burnt the gospels of the Ebionites, Nazarenes & Hebrews, but also took great joy exterminating the sects themselves.
@@robbielee2148 What about what I said had anything to do with that? Also, provided they were not teaching the same message that Jesus and the disciples taught, then who cares?
It is quite gratifying to see at 8:41 that you point out the fact that early Christianity ran the gamut from pagan to Jewish. From what I've read, this was because it pre-dated Jesus and his followers by up to 400 years. When the remnants of Alexander the Great's army returned to Greece, they brought many new ideas, traditions, and spiritual teachings with them. They also brought back Hindu and Buddhist teachers, who began teaching the Greeks."Kristos" in Greek (Krestus in Latin and Christ in English) was the name by which the Greeks knew the Hindu god, Krishna. What could be termed "Krishna-ianity"became a dominant spiritual path in Greece, primarily through the Pythagoreans. A Greek version of Buddhism also became widespread, through both the Stoics and, as I understand it, the Epicurians. As time went on, this "Krishna Consciousness" or "Christ Consciousness" movement spread into the Roman Empire. After the death of Jesus, his teachings were gradually included in the mix, first by the Gnostic, Paul, and later by others in Rome. Eventually the Pauline followers won out politically, and suppressed or destroyed everyone else along with the rest of the pagan religions. It's basically a Hindu/Buddhist/Greco-Roman/gapn religion masquerading as Jewish in origin.
The New Testament tells of competing theologies. The assertion that the first century wasn't all peace and harmony is not really newsworthy. Paul describes those who were sent from the Jerusalem church to destroy his ministry. It was a mess back in the first century. o Paul tells of those who taught that the resurrection had already come. o John tells of those who taught that Jesus hadn't come in the flesh o Peter tells his audience that Paul's writings were on the level of scripture There were a lot of competing theologies in the first century and the New Testament describes a few.
Please quote a Scholarly work or/and a Critique of that work that mentions any relationship between Krishna,Christ Consciousness ... because this sounds misleading to the utmost degree.
@@ignipotent7276 it's Reasonable speculation, less misleading than you suggest. Official attribution is meaningless (likely to be Christian) when there are only fragments of evidence. However, IMO, the mystical conversion of Christianity more closely resembles the Greek Elysian Mysteries than Indian Vedanta. There Is a strong correlation between Taoism and Greek Epicureanism too. One has the flow of Atoms and the other has yin-yang.
@@jonathanwobesky9507 Ying Yang within the core + - positive and negative the rupus negro. Dark sun twelve spooked wheel The christo carried by Orpheus to the masses.
That was... a lot. I can't say I that I didn't lose the plot once or twice, or several (dozen) times, but I still got a lot out of it. I think the biggest reason I could not force myself to become interested in religion back when I was at peak brainwashing age is the same as why I never studied law or medicine: too much latin! One thing that does come through very clearly is that, over the years, those in positions of power molded the Christian narrative to reinforce that power, especially when it came to the roles of women. But what concerns me is the insane number of people that think Revelations foretold modern, recent events; rather than understanding that "666" simply refers to Nero, they're actively cheering for, and in some cases, trying to bring about the end of the world - based upon a book that doesn't even belong in their bible! Insanity, shared delusions... I don't know what else to say about it.
Of course. Yes there were gnostics/pagans in Rome who tried to corrupt it. But they were really just from Judea trying to discredit what they thought was the false messiah or wanted to tie it into their old religion to make it more appealing. The early starters of the Orthodox Church saw the corruption after the 2nd crusade and brought the khabbalah to the church
For the fundamentalists. It's no longer about truth. Its about keeping the 'story' alive. Fundamentalists love their story of Jesus, and let them enjoy their fantasy. But when they start spreading hate, in that we're sinners in need of 'their' salvation. Thats when the gloves come off.
@deborahproctor9538 The Messiah of the OT was supposed to be a mighty warrior for the Jewish peoples. Jesus was anything but. Jesus is NOT the Messiah. They're can't be a second coming, because the first hasn't happened. Nor will it.
Very enjoyable video. It is always amusing to see how the early so-called christians weave in and out the more earlier myths and legends within their own newly created religion thus maintaining the old within the new. What wonderful imaginations those people had and also sad that to see how it later was honed into a weapon and used to persecute whole populations of peoples throughout much of the world causing great misery and death while only being a completely man-made mythology. Even today seeing it corrupt the minds of modern peoples.
I think much of what this guy states misses the fact that the bible openly acknowledges that different churches were regularly deviating from the true teachings of Jesus. In fact the letters of Paul are pretty much all him correcting some of those very those heresies... It is this very fact that lead to the writing down and gathering of the canonical New Testament in order to give people around the Christian world a reference point... Yes there were LOTS of sects in the early church. This is because there were just a relative few believer on the day Jesus was crusified, and there were many many more churches than primary sources. This is to be expected, its not like they had phones and internet in order to call up the disciples and get answers to their questions. If they couldnt remember exactly what was said when one of the original followers planted their church, they often just made up the answer to a question. The fact that there were many deviations doesnt give evidence for the heresies, rather their correction from disciples give evidence for their falsehoods... Another issue here is this guy seems to think because a letter was written (Timothy, but also others), it was rapidly disseminated throughout the Christian world... This is CRAZY talk. We know this because ideas spread at a snails pace back then compared to now. Christians in Rome would have documents that wouldnt make it to Grease (which is just across the a very small sea) for over 100 years at times... Also, lets say you got a letter from Paul (or anyone else). How would you even know that that that letter was important to someone 500+ miles away? You may duplicate it for your followers, but its likely you wouldnt immediately send it to another church, as it was meant for your church. It could be DECADES before someone from your church happened to carry that letter to a church that had never seen it. All this is crazy, the assumptions are based on information traveling extremely fast, and the author here (tho great at looking up things), is viewing the world from a modern perspective...
Gotta say. This is a top notch documentary, arguably the top documentary made based on the importance of the information given. This has greatly increased my understanding of Christianity's formation.
@@theCosmicQueen well I found quite a few inaccuracies, but I've declined to comment on it not wanting to appear overly critical, however the gist of it is true. Early Christianity was a mix of ideas from it's conception and there was originally no label of Gnosticism, just different sects of Christians.
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Can you do a vid on how god was a women first
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@@kingtownsend2536God isn’t a women 😂
I always felt like Christianity had so much potential to make the world better as a philosophy. I also intuitively felt like the religion we have today is nothing like what Yeshua meant it to be.
@I_dreamed_my_name_was_Brandon I don't think we should have holy script at all. We should just be decent, mindful people.
Well there's no Yeshua, so it's whatever we want it to be.
@@slappy8941 yep, no Yeshua, no Jesus, no G*d, no Satan, no Thor, no Buddah, no Inanna, Zeus ect ect. We've out grown religion. We know why it's thundering. It's not Thor striking his hammer. You aren't fertile because Inanna blessed you.
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Making the religion nothing like Yeshua meant it to be was the point. The men who hijacked the religion wanted power, and wealth, and to shape the world in their own image. They were probably really Atheists or working for the other side.
I grew up Catholic, questioned it a lot, and decided not to be at 12. I just didn't believe a lot of what they were telling me. Eventually after much trial and error with other Christian sects and western new age, I found Tibetan Buddhism and settled for that for a long time. Then I lived in India, with Kashmiris, where Sufism is inherent in the culture, and helped Afghani refugees, for years. Both taught me much about Islam. So being constantly surrounded by Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and other Hindu variants, and 3 different branches of Islam, all mostly on a daily basis, I couldn't help but notice the similarities, which I've been looking into since. Mostly academically through historical data. For example, just now, The story you told of being "kept in the dark" in the garden of Eden, and being liberated from it, reminded me of Siddhartha's upbringing. Very difficult to learn, and so eventually gain true enlightenment and liberation , without adversity. My biggest question now is "Why?" Why did God (or insert own ideology here) do it, knowing it was going to cause a lot of suffering? It really pisses me off sometimes, more on behalf of other sentients than for myself. I have come up with a few theories but have no actual evidence to back them up and I still can't fully wrap my tiny, fallible, human brain around the concept of an eternal universe with no beginning or end, just recycling or Nirvana, as Hindu teachings say, so the creation story you told appeased me somewhat. Makes sense along with the cult of Yahweh apparently merging with the cult of El at some point, for geo-political reasons. I think I was born Hindu/Buddhist AND Gnostic/Sufi and just didn't know it. And here I am at age 56, finding some of the holes in my understanding of what I suspect is the big picture, are covered by yet another religious ideology and lesser known doctrines. And I'm loving every moment of it.
Please pardon my ramblings. I'm trying to quit smoking and nibbling after dinner. Writing helps a lot. Keeps the hands busy.
I quit smoking at about 54, and it was very difficult. Kicked like a mule for 9 days. After that, I had to go week by week and had to re-arrange my entire life. It was based around smoking, and smoking was a consideration in everything I did and everywhere I went. After six months, I knew I hade made it and would never go back to tobacco. It's been over 11 years now, and I still think it was one of the best decisions I have made.
I felt drawn to a book, The Life and Teachings of Gautama the Buddha, in my early twenties. I stole the book from a library and read it. I understood it. The first thing I did was stop stealing. I began to wander as a homeless monk on and off for a couple years, and eventually wrote a check to the library to repay the loss after getting my feet on solid ground. it was miraculous the way God provided for me, so long as I stayed on this path. I eventually returned to Christianity because I was raised Christian, and my family claimed to be for the most part. I had corrected my errant ways and hoped I could help my family. Christianity had seemed to be a show for me. My parents always took us to church dressed up on Sunday, but they were back to smoking, drinking, and cussing by the time we got home. They were decent people, but our family was dysfunctional. I nearly died of a drug overdose at 17.
I pursued Christianity for twenty years as an adult, reading the bible, attending bible studies, tithing, all that stuff. I was on a worship team and wrote Gospel music. I eventually left Christianity out of frustration and disappointment. I learned about many of the denominations. It seemed too shallow and superficial and at times just ridiculous (speaking in tongues, fake laying on of hands, etc.). I studied other world religions, became a yoga instructor and learned a lot about Christianity by learning about the other religions. Whereas the Hindu religion grew organically from India after the Vedic texts, it became evident to me that Christianity was created by Rome for the initial purpose of ending Judaism. Later, Emperor Constantine used it as a means to consolidate the Roman Empire, replacing the many mythologies and Pagan religions with Christ. Even Islam (the Moors) once promulgated the acquisition of wisdom and knowledge, pouring through and translating Greek and Roman knowledge and advancing science and technology. And yet Christianity has always seemed to prefer keeping the masses in the dark and the clergy of the church having the knowledge to read, write, and maintain the scriptures to maintain their power over the masses.
The past twenty years of the internet has made the world a smaller place, and it has allowed many to contribute to the process of piecing together a better picture of world history. The Christian Church never mentioned the crusades, the Roman Empire's control through Christianity, or the two one-thousand year long Christian empires of the Holy Romans and the Byzantines. Once I could study world history I began to see a clearer picture of how Christianity came about, and why evangelicals seem to be so far out there. They are accepting second or third or tenth hand knowledge of those who don't know much more than they do. They haven't kept up with the advances in our knowledge and still believe that Columbus discovered America and America was founded as a Christian nation.
Now I see Christianity and it's acceptance by many in the US and its leadership positions to be in opposition to the world peace process. They refuse any sort of sharing among the nations or religions and insist upon their vision of Jesus returning to earth and ruling as a king from Jerusalem for a thousand years. I am not kidding. I watched a Calvary Chapel sermon on this a couple of weeks ago in a series on Revelations. Their vision of the future is not unlike the Timothy LaHaye "Left Behind" series, which is sadly the most common view of Revelations in America.
Before the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim peoples of the world can ever live together, they will need to stop fighting over whose scriptures are true and who really knows God. The Bahai Faith (175 years old) attempts to bring these three religions together in Baha'u'llah, and believe that God sent messengers to all the populations of the world, including Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, and others. Looking at current world events, it seems like a big challenge, one that will require the widespread deconstruction of the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions and a refitting around the Bahai scriptures. Probably more difficult than stopping smoking.
The Jordan, Euphrates, Bow and EL-bow are all rivers 🙌 ALLELUIA 🙌 A-men' 🌾
I followed many flavors of Christianity for a while and finally at 42 I found my Pagan roots, specifically Norse and even more specifically Freyja. So many stories passed down throughout humanity. The flood stories may be tied to the end of our first ice age and the melting glaciers covering so many people’s lands. The traumatic stories could be tied to the world’s peoples losing their homes and land to the rising waters. From what I saw it wasn’t a very slow process but was pretty quick. Who knows in the end since the worlds people have basically been playing the biggest telephone game in existence. LOL
The way I see it is that all religion was born out of a way for people to feel like they have control over things they don't, but it always inevitably got choked up by the beliefs and ways of the culture that created it. And, when those cultures became powerful or wealthy often so too did the religious class and ot became yet another kind of chain for just as many as it gave peace to.
I sincerely believe that Christianity, Islam & Bhuddism sprang from a sort of desperate defiance of the problems of the old ways, thinking that they were making something better, when all the new ways have just as many problems as the old- maybe even moreso, since these are "conquering religions," who need to constantly move into new places & subjugate them to replace the old. While some conquerors did this, & ancient peoples might have laughed at ways that didn't match their own ways or beliefs, old religions, themselves, didn't do this & the new religion can often be devious, harsh & rely heavily on shaming basic human nature & fear mongering in order to thrive at all. That is their mistake & that is why they are just beginning to die off, today.
If you're still searching, I'd recommend "Bhagavad-gita As It Is", by Bhaktivedanta. It's not Hindu or anything else. It describes not a goal of endless rebirths, and certainly not eternal hell, and not even a materialistic heaven. This commented translation, and others by him, explain and offer a future unlike taught by any religion. (I am a direct disciple of this self-realized author and assisted in publishing these works. I promise you, you'll find answers.)
This was phenomenal. I had heard of some of those 'heretics' before but hadn't realized just how diverse the Mediterranean really was. When I was deconstructing my faith, it struck me so often just how radical Jesus' message really was for its time. Also it's so clear that Jesus says call no one Master, Father, or Teacher for One is your Master, Father, and Teacher. No wonder why Church controlled who could read the Bible for so long.
Thanks for all the work you put into this. It was so good!
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So your father, your mother's husband, is not your father? Your parents aren't your teachers? The adults, the teachers, who have taught you things- aren't teachers? Explain
@@amyrenee1361 I believe Jesus was saying that his disciples were to treat each other equally. To not regard status or gender or anything that would place one above someone else.
That’s why he talked about taking the lowest seat of honor, and why he washed his disciples feet, which was the job for a servant, not a master.
It’s quite funny then how quickly his followers left that egalitarian ideal behind and started having bishops and then eventually the pope.
Also, regarding natural family, Jesus was quite clear about that you had to let them go, and love him more than anything.
Boring.
@@geraldneary Boring Oregon is a town of about 2000 folk. Its nestled in the Cascades...honest.
apparently Elder scrolls music makes "real world lore" just as interesting to me as fiction...
Lmao Elder Scrolls BABYYYY!!!!😂
Except the track for npc vids.
I came to the comments to see if there are any elder scrolls fans around, lol
@@tennesseeanderson8801 Of course, some of us are here and Skyrim music is hard to not notice
At least I am not the only one.
dude everyone can see how much work you put into this, it's an incredible undertaking. I think you should leave up the little headers you put up with the time period instead of fading it out. it helped me follow along and contextualize. thank you so much for the chapters it's so great!
And get rid of the lightning background with reading. Some of us cannot hang in there. Could you edit that parameter to something else. Owwie
Yes,well done
Fr how is dude making all this. Impressive documentaries
It seems to me that early Christianity was more concerned with ethics and the pursuit of finding one's connection with God and selfless service to the community. What is preached in most evangelical churches today in the US like Christian nationalism, dispensationalism and the prosperity gospel is so far removed from the original teachings
And imo the original church tried to define what’s necessary to get that connection, like some sort of guide. But I guess got too strict and narrow. Then they split into orthodox and Roman Catholic. And from there a bunch of people who said “my interpretation is better” creating hundred of Protestant denominations that got lost in the details and use rock concerts instead of school worship.
The original teachings and idea of the original church died a long time ago, what we see today is just a watered down evolved version of Christianity birthed out of selfishness instead of selflessness. I am personally not a believer btw, this is just what I have gathered from research and observation
New Testament is always struck me as an exercise in antisemitism and acquiescence to greco- Roman imperial power. opposed to Judaism & The Original Testament in its Original language ie Biblical Hebrew.
@@stoggsherfnik4569 Whereas most religions go through a period of "blooming" into a more accessible approach to God, one not requiring a priest class and ability to read scripture, Christianity came to end the law of Moses (that God required animal sacrifices to resolve petty grievances). Rather, love one another and do what it good. Simple and available to all.
The Jews were relentless, waiting for their messiah, refusing to cooperate with the Greeks or the Jews. They wanted another David to defeat Rime. The Romans just wanted to make things uniform so that they could efficiently run their empire. I believe that they had significant and major influence over the formation of Christian theology and the religion. It worked. They ended paganism and mass converted the entire empire.
Christianity has went through many two millenia plus and has changed so many times it cannot be counted
Everyone else: great video!
Me: Is that Skyrim music I hear?
Please tell me it's actually Skyrim music and I'm not tripping
@@killingqueen666 The music is called Ambient. They do this type of music in these types of videos to trick people into thinking that what they are hearing is amazing. When in reality they are not saying anything important.
It’s definitely Skyrim music. Been playing it again recently.
Elder Scrolls series has the best music@@McOdinson
I literally bought the game and only played it once lol
43 minutes in, the plot is getting juicy, questions need to be answered, my boi’s voice is cracking in anticipation.. I need some popcorn 🍿 This is getting exciting.
But in all seriousness, I thought I knew my shit when it came to Christianity and Gnosticism, but I was mistaken. I’m learning a lot.
It’s good to keep in mind most people do not know this; they are not lying but believe false accounts. Most are not intentional falsehood spreaders. Such things do break my heart because in so many religions I have met many genuine people.
Agreed.
Hahaha
@@Maria-ir3dy Why are you even here? Did you come here just to claim your beliefs as actual knowledge and rudely scrutinize the beliefs or questions of others? Your disrespect is unacceptable. You do not know anything so you cannot define what is a lie and what is not.
"In the absence of any proof, the true rule is to admit ignorance."
-Galileo Galilei
There are no better brain washers than the brainwashed. It’s (mostly accidental) lies all the way down.
No they know this but they don't want to believe it
I have watched this about 20 times now whilst making notes and researching - so much good knowledge packed into this video- again thank you !!!
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I can't go on. This begins in ignorance of the naming of gospels. Works of literature were named with a translation of the first words of the work, which is usually also the subject. ("In the beginning" becomes the Greek translation, "Genesis." Mark is a Hebrew word which is used in the Old Testament for our first steps in faith--preparation of the heart. Jesus began with 12 disciples/students. Evangelists were sent out and many thousands attended his meetings on the hills. 70 more disciples were called and then "the other 70." The gospel of John represents class notes of one of the most advanced students. So, the gospels are from four different classes of students. The mysteries there cannot be comprehended without "eyes to see" and having already learned the lessons of Mark, Matthew and luke. We are not going to learn much from RUclips. Faith is a journey. If you have felt the love of God drawing you, make a decision to believe. People believe what they choose. That's why it's called faith. Evidence follows. One day, you will receive your evidence, but not be believed. I could tell you about my evidence. But you really need your own experience. It begins with God talking to you through the Bible. These words were actually "breathed" into the ear and written down. And you can talk to God (prayer.) You will find that God's word is answering your prayer. ▪︎. Get together with others and remember that we are all imperfect.
All originates from the Sumerian gods and cultures.
@@sstafford2213
Wrong. Everything originated from penises. even you and me. including everything we do. so actually the Sumerian gods and culture originated just like everything else from dicks.
@@sstafford2213 Sumerian gods stem from Gen6 and Enoch. They were Nephilim.
As a follower of Christ myself This is undeniable. I’ve never seen a video on RUclips where almost everything in this video can be backed up with EVIDENCE from the time Christianity started. This is amazing work
Some god, can't get his word across, but liars can.
I have been studying Scriptures and extra-Biblical writings for 40 years and I thought this video was amazing and I learned things. Good work!
This was absolutely reality warping and thought and soul changing. This is one of the best documentaries I have seen ever. Period. The amount of work and effort and care put into this is beautiful and appreciated and very eye opening into how complicated theology/esoterica really is if you do not have the ears to hear and the eyes to see; if you don't know what you're looking at or what you're looking for!!!
Thank you so much and I'd really like to donate to this channel which I've only ever done for Crash Course (PBS) but this is deserving of support!!!
This was amazing, seriously. You went into the deepest depths with this one and shone a light. All meat, no fat, straight to the point in bold, clear and annunciated.
Thank you!!!
YES!!!😇
it’s meant to confuse. These people worship Lucifer and think God of the Bible is evil.
Agreeeeee
Christ is Lord
Too bad most of his facts are wrong. He finds the most outlandish scholar and quotes him as the authority, when there are 100 who disagree. And on it goes!
ALL HEARSAY!!!!
-an ex minister stated
“Everything we taught you in church was a lie…”
-a priest said in my first OT 101 class at a catholic college
Yes because Catholicism was infiltrated by gnostics after the knights Templar went to Jerusalem and they worship John the Baptist as the man who gave Jesus divinity. There is no gnostic interpretation of the Bible that makes sense
Say more .!?
Well, definitely the most honest priests I've ever heard about, it would be intresting to know what they believe to be true or closer to the truth.
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Jews, Muslims and Christians all worship the angel Satan, the god??? of Beth-el ..
Genesis 31:11- 13.. which means the Lord of Israel Hashem the Destroyer Shemot 12:23
yeah, maybe he was lying. do you know how to read? you coul d just read the bible for yourself, a few versions.
It is not a particular religion or church that is important but after expanding your consciousness, one begins to realize you are more than just your body, mind and emotions! It was after I realized my divinity and my sovereignty, then I started receiving revelations, divine messages and brought me to the point of where I come from, that I have a soul, an aspect of God-life in me!
@@derrickdupreez4209 amen! Myself as well ☺️✨
Eww yuck. Another human glued to the insatiable wall of devouring flesh and consciousness.
The third wall
There is no grounding with this idea. There are no answers to common moral questions for the everyday person "Should I vote? is contraception allowed? Is stealing ever moral? Is lying ever moral? Is money okay? How do I understand Jesus' divinity? Etc." this is why we need a church with authority
@@a.ihistory5879 for the church to lie even more? Nobody needs the church for morality. You're either a decent person or you're not. The church has been nothing but vile throughout its history. How much war and genocide has been done in the name of your god? How many people raped, murdered, torture, and theft? Europeans are especially known for that. Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Alaska, Canada, WW1, WW2. Please, tell me, what good has your god or your people done?
This is one of those videos you rewatch and take notes to study further.
i am supremely impressed with your research depth and scope. This not easy info to find. It take digging and asking the right questions of research engines, muddling thru ancient and difficult texts, and keen intuition and pattern recognition skills.
You have done brilliantly with this presentation. You have managed to network together so many ancient mythologies and histories into a cohesive, powerful account that not only does not intellectually diminish the awe of Universe, it validates just how fucking big the story of humanity and interstellar spiritual dimensions are.
Thank you. Will need to listen to this several times. I tried reading several "Gnostic" books but this gives lots of context and a better understanding.
This is so amazingly comprehensive that I'm going to have to watch it a couple more times to absorb it all.
Thank You So Much!! I don't know what else to say... I'm speechless.
Thank you.
This is my favorite video by gnostic informant. So interesting and I love sleeping while listening to this.
Dear Neal, thank you very kindly for producing this. In my many years of seriously studying religions, I don't think I have heard anything more accurate, more stop-on, and all encompassing. There's so much in this, it needs to be viewed or listened to -- by everyone, and multiple times. You really put together a perfect picture, of the complex synergy involved with the development of Christian thought and it's deep connections to other religions, realms, and cultures. Bravo! Seriously, this thing deserves some type of RUclips Academy Award, if there is such a thing. So well presented, clear, awesome images, perfect music, outstanding editing and pacing! WOW! My hat is off to you, bro!
Genius 👌
Yep
Except, this is closer to how Lucifarianism leaks into Christendom thru paganism. Than the title...
XRISO
Kudos channel community & comments! From what I’ve viewed so far, respectively supportive with a rare humility. Thx to all & peace be with you.
Try explaining this to a fundamental Christian family during Thanksgiving dinner. I accepted a more allegorical interpretation of the bible when I discovered content like this: great stuff.
Thanksgiving has exactly what to do with Jesus??
Enlighten us
@@HappyHermittIt doesn't. It's just an occasion for the entire Christian family to gather.
@@carrierichardson6619 Good luck on that endeavor. I once got into an argument with my mother (frequent really) and I asked her "Mom. Who is Abraham?" She replied "I don't know, a prophet?" I asked her "You have been going to church for fifty years and you still don't know who Abraham is? What the hell have they been teaching you?" Then again, my dad never found a sermon that wasn't the perfect opportunity to take a short nap through. To them Christianity was a social function. They called themselves Lutherans and belonged to a club that happened to have a retirement plan called "Heaven". They never read the bible because that's what they paid their pastor to do for them. They paid their dues (only 5% but that was a lot) for over fifty years.
I love my parents and miss them. I still have an eggnog with Rum and Kahlua for the holidays to honor them. Some people just aren't into all this sort of stuff.
@@Scott_works
But it is nice to see what makes them tick.and kinda gives ya more folks to talk. Collaborate and laugh with SMH with others while saying that was interesting I'll have to watch this again.take notes and put them in the crazy beliefs it's all a distraction they are mining laundering money ie stealing in the name of humanitarian they are neither human nor without blood of his neighbors on their hands. diabolical
Data ......
Yeah, best possible reaction, you will be completely ignored while talking & treated like the dumbest person on the planet for the rest of the night.
This must have taken you months to prepare. Well done and thank you. I learned a lot. You have distilled an enormous amount of information into this single lecture
Yes there are around 50+ gospels that were refused to enter the Bible. Mainly because they didn't follow the narrative of the mainstream religious groups.
Is it possible to read them?
@@saransong5547 of course 👍,most are the Apocrypha and available online for free to read
It is driven home so hard from the church & Bible not to add or take away from the Holy Scriptures. Meanwhile, so much is lost in learning & gained in fear for learning. Chaotic trying to decide whether to read or ignore it started with Enoch finely & am branching out in studies such as this video which really helps to tie things together. Thank you for all you studies & efforts to bring all this information to us. ❤️🙏🏻
There were four main steams of Christianity in the first and second century AD. (Apostles, Pauline, Marcian, and Gnositc).
Three were done away with by Rome as they made the religion as literal as possible and ensured the church held the power. They made it Orthodox, and Pauline - centric.
@@saransong5547 Google "Banned From the Bible" and you will find the Nag Hammadi cache with all the forbidden books. It becomes obvious that people were making this stuff up and embellishing the stories, such as the story of Jesus' childhood. The Catholic Church ordered them destroyed and those caught with them were tortured or killed.
Letters from Ignatius, letters from Polycarp, First Apology from Justin Martyr, Against Heresy by Irenaeus. We actually have plenty of anti-Nicene documents when you consider the kind of persecution the Church was facing. Find your nearest Orthodox Church and come attend Divine Liturgy! ☦️☦️☦️
I love when I have a few days off work and a long video to soak up. You're great brother.👍 Thank you.
Same
Facts but me being a truck driver man im in heaven having the freedom to learn and experience so much miles of divine creation simultaneously. It's like a mental orgasm‼️
Man you put a lot of work into these! Amazing. I could watch these all day.
Amazing compilation here, and thank you so much for this. I have been researching the Gnostic Gospels and trying to understand the obvious discrepancies of biblical teachings. This video has been very enlightening, and puts these ideas together in a way that is easier to understand, for me. Cheers!
Author of the Gospels says special request
The discrepancies are due to the Catholic Church editing and changing the Scriptures in the Bible for over the past 1700 years.
Yes, I gathered that. Council of Nicaea, and such.@@Thyalwaysseek
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What do I think? I think this video is genius You offer the narrative, counter narratives and more of a rounded view of the early church than I have ever seen. Amazing. Very refreshing for a Christian truth seeker imo.
What is "Christian truth"?
I honestly would like to assist you with this. If your question is rhetorical, great. If you question represents that my statement is confusing...that's a diagram the sentence thing. If you want to know what Christian "truth" buddhist "truth egyptian "truth or any truth you will find the ultimate "truth" within you. There is but one truth and an infinite amount of ways to view it. Oh..and there are "more" truthful ways to view it , than others. One other thing, the ultimate "truth" being observed and the observer can become "one"..so..that's also a thing. Your name indicates you know all this, so hope you do and hope your sharing it@@ahenathon
@@peterhook2258 My name is not reference to the Sun. It is random sounds I made up to sound soundly and epic. By adding "Christian" to the "truth" we tell the story, noting else. It is unlikely that the truth resemble human logic. At least not the whole truth. Our minds are tuned to reality and everything out of its bounds is supernatural. Therefore we can not touch it by any means. Everything "spiritual" taps to archetypes of the human mind. It is barely a glimpse of truth.
Correct and since we are human we can describe and use our own language to point at those archetypes , hence my adjective Christian (not your definition of it). And if we both understand the concepts of archetypes you can understand the elephant analogy often used to describe "God". And if you don't know that analogy, familiarize yourself with it as it is applicable to what we are speaking of, and what I am speaking of when I say "Christian". In the story the elephant does indeed have a rope although the others may disagree, however the one that understands more of the elephant knows...it is indeed an elephant, indeed part of it is ropelike..ie Christian Truth is truth (not your understanding of what I mean ). Now if you have "ears to hear" then you get this, if you don't you don't). also..the elephant has ears too. In other cultures you will hear the elephant described as Islamic Truth, Buddhist Truth etc but the archetype cares not what you or I call it, nor that we describe it in human language which is necessary for communication in a youtube post. Peace@@ahenathon
Inshalla
Amazing job but what saddens me is that too many commenting below think this makes everything these former groups taught a lie. Myths awaken the subconscious mind and can spark genuine experiences of apotheosis. Zoe /Sophia is a particularly potent archetype as every mystic, myself included, can testify. She is the spirit of life that commingles with you in ecstatic bliss that the ancient ones called being twice born. It is an out of body timeless experience of profound peace and wellness beyond words. I know because it happened to me.
I'm with you
These details only enliven my faith as a Byzantine Catholic
Glory to Jesus Christ, the Son of God
Glory to Zoe, the breath of God
Glory to God the Father of all
Another tradition to check out is the Hermetic - specifically the Poimandres (Shepherd of Men) text.
Also Neo-Platonic writings by Iamblichus and Ploninus
All of these have enlivened my faith better connecting me to the origins of the ancient path
They are false, it is pretty clear to historians that gnostic documents do not come from first century Jewish writters, unlike the canon documents, that have so much information that only a first century Judean ould know.
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No that is the opposite
Marcion is the first to assemble the first proto New Testament and he is called a gnostic
Did you even watch this?
This is well known scholarship
The 1800's are over. We now know many so called Gnostics like the Valentinians were as early as the so called Orthodox
Because it happen Ed to you doesn't mean its true for everyone. It's true for you. Ur own internal divinity operates that way. Not so for everyone
Do you have any objective proof Zoe is commingling with you? Or is this just based on your inner imagination?
Jesus gave us two commandments to Love Our Heavenly Father with our whole heart and mind and to Love Others as we Love Ourselves 💘LOVE 💘
Both of those commandments predate Jesus in Judaism. (Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18).
I'm going to need to watch this several times and look forward to reading your references. I do believe that the biblical book of Revelations was really about the fall of Rome because I've gone down a few rabbit holes too. Love your videos, please keep making these!
"believe"? "RevelationS"?
I find a lot of funny correlations involved in what ancient people were asking. Jews wanted a Messiah to make them a mighty people with the greatest empire the world has ever known worshipping their God. They got a Messiah who may or may not exist or may be an amalgam of several different people making a new religion who worships their God thay conquered most of the earth and wanted all the Jews dead as heretics for most of that time. The Christians wanted Rome to fall and be replaced by the kingdom of heaven. Rome fell- after Christianity pretty much became Rome & they got the Dark Ages.
@@MrChristianDTyou are leaving out the part where Christianity is responsible for the development of western civilization
Great job on this video, Neal. The video is packed full of interesting history and the images are beautiful. You did a great job narrating this video too. I just love your longer documentaries, like this one. ❤
booster complexion
What a masterpiece, Neil. Mind is now completely blown, I always suspected that, Christianity's origin was evident in mystery cult. I think it will take me several years to go through all of this. This should be in a doctral disertation.
I do have one question, I wonder why you still believe in an historical Jesus? I would have thought that you would believe the opposite.
Excellent video. As a student of biblical history, you fit a lot of information into this one video. It does really whet the appetite for someone who is interested in early Christian history.
Absolutely loved this! Thank you 😊 I was a slave to Christian indoctrination up until recently. This is by far the most in-depth discussion I've been introduced to.
This was my first time watching your channel and I'm excited to see what else you have shed light upon! 🎉❤
ITS kind of funny how your video thinks it is sharing the truth... In fact all the time you put into it might seem laughable too. Your argument is like getting bit by a black dog and then you as a kid making a rule that says all black dogs are bad because they bite. Then further going on to reference how all black dogs should be aborted because they are prone to bite and be dangerous. YOU wasted our time. this video is one big waist of your breath too. YOU SHOULD JOIN ISLAM BECAUE THAT IS BETTER THEN FOLLOWING THIS CHANNEL.
The Jordan, Euphrates, Bow and EL-bow are all rivers 🙌 ALLELUIA 🙌 A-men' 🌿
You can seperate God from religion, and I say everyone should do so. That there is a Creator God, and yes Jesus was his son who died for all humanity. That much is true. But to think the writings in the bible are divine and without error, and how most religions practice a faith that is "do as I say, not as I do" you can see the practicality of what I say. A perfect example is he Catholic church who for hundreds of years from the beginning of the church held Sunday service in Latin, but 99% of the people did not speak or read Latin you can see the problem. Also, Sunday not Monday is the first day of the week, and the calendar used to have 13 months of 28 days each and was based on the moon not the sun. It was late 1700's when there was the change to our new calendar. I have not the reason why, except to screw everybody up. But if you wish to find oneself, and learn about God one must look inward to oneself and connect to their soul. Through your soul are your prayers heard. Just remember to maybe hit the Big Guy up on any day but Sunday as he is a bit overwhelmed on that day. lol Man is all 3 mind, body, and spirit. And all three must be cared for equally to be a full healthy complete person. If you feel there is something out of balance in your life (and hanks to modern world) that imbalance is most likely caused by caring primarily for the body, and not the other two. It's not your fault, it is how we have been taught incorrectly primarily due to religion. You know that voice in your head when you "think"? That's your soul. Listen to it as it is your moral guide in the world and whether you are not following the path God wanted for you, or one in the material world. Which again is the exclusively the body, not mind and spirit. Also understand the 3 have different personalities. Yes you have 3 personalities, not 1, or 2 that work together to make your whole. Remember God kept it simple and for a reason with the 10 Commandments. It's really not hard to follow, just do not covet. Work for want you want and if faithful and live a good life it will come to you. When men covet is when they sin. Now for fun check out Kinesin Proteins. It will blow your mind. And prove to you something everyone asks: Is God real? I'll let you decide. Looking inward will also give you that answer. It is when the soul is cared for, and it is stimulated that it is the soul that heals the body. Just make sure you give the soul the materials to build back what has needs fixed. How do you stimulate the soul, mind and spirit? Music! Which is the only way the soul can be stimulated. Music is so very important. Tesla said if you want to understand the mysteries of the universe think in terms of frequency, vibration, and energy. Music fulfills all 3. Good music, not that stuff they sing at most churches with just an organ. Though a few have figured it out. lol. Now go live a life caring for the world and all in it, especially the animals and natural world. That still is mankind's number one job. Then, go do what you love! Serious. You are allowed to do that believe it or not. At least if you don't live in North Korea anyway. lol! (listening to the "wrong" music in North Korea can get you in front of a firing squad. No lie. So if you don't live their, or any other shitty country, you're already on the right track. Now feel blessed and go live your life!)
@@johannjohann6523 THE BIBLE CANNOT BE DIVINE. IN REVELATION A WARNING IS GIVEN ABOUT ADDING TO OR TAKING AWAY FROM THE BOOK. IF A WARNING IS NEEDED, IT WAS DONE. IF IT WAS DONE, IT IS NOT DIVINE.
@@michaeldeanleonardo4621 I agree. ANY book that spends so much of itself trying to CONVINCE you why it is The Divine Truth, and why it is the ONLY truth, and why it alone should be believed (and even THREATENING YOU if you don't believe it!), should be disregarded as so much dust blowing in the wind. That doesn't mean that there isn't sound ideas in it...even an U.S. Army Field Manual with instructions for a Claymore Mine, that tells you to exercise extreme caution with it, and to assure that you point the appropriate side of the weapon toward the enemy, has SOUND IDEAS in it. But The Truth, THE BIG TRUTH, just IS, and that is ALL it EVER needs to be....The Truth is NOT going to waste one moment trying to convince you or cajole you or THREATEN you into believing it, because The Truth doesn't care one tiny little bit whether you believe it or not, because it is still The Truth either way. The Truth does NOT NEED your belief (...or your MONEY, for that matter...)!! It just IS.
First time in a couple of decades I've seen anything in Christianity that seemed so pure and true. Beautifully done. I am and always be a Pagan, but I'm grateful to see this side of the neighbor's faith.
what we know for sure is that JESUS CHRIST = DEMON FALSE GOD. the bible sound alike "emo jesus cutted his veins for us. you should thank emo jesus who cuted his veins for you. otherwise his father would have throw all humans in hell ! obey the one who cutted himself for your sins or stay in the lake of fire for daring not believing ! there is no God exept emo jesus ! emo jesus is a jealous god and he who does not hate his parents to be emo with him is not a true disciple of him"
You're kidding?
The Gnostic Christians were the last true Christians.
I guess the "you're kidding" commenter believes that you can get your truth across to people by insulting their beliefs and acting arrogant. If your point is to try to assurt the validly of your point, you have lost already. No one listens to someone who disrespects their beliefs. I learned this not from a Pagan, but from a Missionary who went to New Guinea in the 50's to preach to actual Cannibals and Headhunters. Listen and learn, folks. These wise Missionaries *never* ridiculed or criticized these people's heartfelt beliefs. They hunted with them, built nuts with them, and shared stories around the campfire. They calmly said "you believe this, we believe that".The point here is shared. They tried to build a bridge, not put up a wall and feel they are superior and get Brownie points from God. Attitudes like this only drive people away.
I'm personally not interested in converting into Evangelical Christianity but for those who claim they are trying to save people it amazing how they don't notice how they are only driving people away God with comments exactly like this.
Great informational video. Could you please provide all the references, perhaps a bibliography of all the sources you found this information from? Could you also provide the list of scholars mentioned mid video that were of the opinion that Marcion had the authentic epistles?
Gnosis takes away the Lack of Knowledge of Understanding (Ignorance), which one must contain both married together which creates "WISDOM" the principal thing. The application in a life which lights the path. As dawn shines brighter and brighter unto the noon day.
I’ve been orthodox the past few years, with rocor and Antioch. Knowing history and past cultures has been really making me question.
Whatever you conclude, questioning your beliefs occasionally is always a good thing, always an opportunity for growth. I hope that you can find your truth.
@@WyrdAlhopefully you also do this yourself
@@MinisterRedPill I went from baptist to atheist to anti-theist to a chaote-pagan quantum-animist who views gods as egregores, as man made works of art worth understanding and integrating, as the shadows cast by the jungian archetypes on human culture. The gods of various cultures got along fine with various scuffles and the practices of various peoples evolved ethically alongside Philosophy until this one god who was really into genocide and human sacrifice ( read numbers lol ) claimed a monopoly on religion and demanded the followers of all other gods be killed or converted, and for an entire tradition of female scientists to be burned at the stake for hundreds of years, at the same time as convincing people to hate their body and their desires. Religion has really went downhill ever since the blood god took over imo, so my personal spiritual project is to combine a historical approach to the concept of deity with an approach to practice that blends Jungian mythic analysis with nature worship. We either become a symbiotic species or the host body will purge the parasite. Dogmatic materialism and Abrahamicism both reduce Gaia to dead property to plunder and both roads lead to death.
I also looked and went rocor for a touch- my hunger and homesick like feeling for ancient ways brought me there and then even further back. There’s some kind of spark there but I know there’s even more farther back.
@@WyrdAl so how do you know your stop is the truth? Sounds to me you should continue to keep questioning what you believe, until you fall headlong into a black hole, because you'll never find the truth if you're never satisfied. Questioning and questioning until at last, you realize your choice is still merely based on what you belief.
"LET GOD BE TRUE, AND EVERY MAN A LIAR"
@@donwadsworth8115 that was also written by a man.
Thank you for sparking several ideas on how to proceed with my studies in the new year. Be well.
Thank you!
Dude! This is the most intricate deep dive into the early Christian history I've ever come across in public forums ever! This is the stuff that gets taught in Seminary school... nice job 👏
@@ThingsThatMakeYouAskWHY Do they actually teach all this in Seminary? It’s amazing how so many people keep following one path after studying all this.
@KristineBette yeah they sure do teach that.
Honestly, the Catholic priesthood functions like a secret society that seeks to control the masses. Most priests DON'T believe in the doctrine they teach. It's all for power.
You and Derek are doing what no other's have done before each of you. I suggest starting an online university-level course to teach people the truth on how these religious ideas formed in Christianity. Excellent work 👏 ❤
Thank you so much!
University-level would probably avoid distorting existing evidence to fit preconceived ideas:
At 31:31 he cites letter of Pliny’s to Trajan, using it as evidence to claim “Ironically this goes against every Christan apologist claim about so-called martyrs who would die for something they know is true, yet these Christians when pressed would worship the image of Emperor Trajan and curse Christ in order to save their lives.”
Yet in the same letter, just the sentence before the one which he cites, Phiny writes: “I have taken this course about those who have been brought before me as Christians: I asked them whether they were Christians or not? If they confessed that they were Christians, I asked them again, and a third time, intermixing threatenings with the questions. If they persevered in their confession, I ordered them to be executed”. Phiny himself stated that he executed Christians who did not renounce Christ, irony indeed.
It is impossible that he missed that sentence by accident since it is part of the same passage from which he starts to cite Pliny, only intentionally butchering it so it would fit his ideas. By doing such things if you believe that you are agent of Truth who is here to enlighten others, you are deluding yourself, and far worse deluding others who trust you.
As with sensationalist newspaper articles so is with such sensationalist RUclips videos, they distort reality a lot in order to fit it in their preconceived views.
If you are looking to learn the “truth” about Early Christianity this channel is not the place for it, nor is the Path towards God through RUclips.
Phiny letter:
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/pliny.html
@@miloslilic86 Sniper detected, this has to be addressed.
So true
@@miloslilic86Pliny literally says he lets them go. Lol and I’ve heard like 19 scholars repeat this exact same thing too
Very educational ! It helps to open up the subject of the world of humans and their religions. Having spent my first decade and a half believing what my parent's taught me, I see how people, since the beginning of our species, have tried to explain who and where we came from, and assigned various "gods". As a boomer now, I can only say our existence is still a great mystery, and no one has the real and final answer (I don't think we are meant to have one). But "Informant" (Neal?), you are helping to explain how we got here, and for that I thank you.
Well said…
It's pretty simple, be kind and control your reactions to adversity not question why things are happening to you. We do not know eternity nor the affects of ripples in space time. Your butterfly affect to history is only known and appreciated by those who can read the eternal. Who you touch and who you teach are unknown to you as is their contributions to the cosmos. Everyone and everything matters, good and bad.
How is he explaining how we got here if thousands of others have tried to explain how we got here and u didn't beliyit but here comes this guy reading here and there n now he completely has erased ur doubt on wat the Bible says .. come on now there are artifacts that prove the word of GOD IS CORRECT 💯 BUT A MAN JUST SPEAKING ON A YT VIDEO GETS U TO REALIZE THAT THE BIBLE IS WRONG LOL ... BUT WAIT FOR IT ... ITS EASIER TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT HAS NO FACTS TO IT THEN TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT HAS REAL FACTS THAT CAN PROVE THAT WE GOT HERE ONE WAY AND THAT IS .. AND GOD SAID LET THER BE LIGHT !!!!!!! DON'T ALLOW THE DEVIL TO TAKE UR MIND FROM YHE TRUTH AND TAKE IT TO THE FALSE GODS THEY SPEAK ABOUT ..
The answer is within, and if humanity can ever get a breather from this controlled illusion of reality, we will understand death without fear in knowing there's no death of the soul but reincarnation of the physical.
This is so dense, I'm very glad you put chapter bookmarks. I'm gonna need to rewatch and take notes for sure
Thank you for this. It really shows, to my mind, how Christianity is simply a part of the general religiosity of humankind, not a separate thing.
Speculation, upon speculation. Projection, upon projection. Were all free to bend twist , then impose our fantasies onto fragments of half truths.
An apt description of religion in general
I understand the nature of the Word, and the beautiful celestine halls of divine manifestation created by the Logos. It is natural to spin the word, just as the earth spins on its axis. It is normal. Like a yard stick, it may be bent and still measure, but when bent too much will break and can no longer measure a span. The Word is flexible and can be bent to a certain extent, so long as it contains its truth. But when bent too far, when broken, it becomes a lie, and all the truth runs out of it like the innards of an egg.
Dude, fantastic stuff you put some serious energy into putting this together and I thank you!!!
absolutely stunning video. amazing work
"WHAT IF I TOLD YOU..." [*Morpheus voice] ALL this is based off the Story of Creation that evolves around the accounts of the Annunaki that lead up to the genetic engineering of the homoerectus to then copulation with the offspring of them! RELIGION WOULD NOT EXIST if not the whole idea of the Annunaki making their human creations to worship them for granting life it's as simple as that!
@@JamieLannister-dq1mo amazing is overrated
@Foundations0 I guess you could say it was divinely inspired 😏
Nice video! I like the Skyrim music, great choice! Much better as background music than what most others use.
"What reason would jews have for deceptively telling that Jesus' father was Pantera?"
In ancient times, people vehemently hated anyone they thought was a heretic. The non-Christian Jews wanted to suppress all Christianity. It is easier if you call the new prophet an illegitimate child.
New Testament is always struck me as an exercise in antisemitism and acquiescence to Greek paganRoman imperial power opposed to Judaism & The Original Testament in its Original language ie Biblical Hebrew. It’s purpose was to make Judaism into fly-over country.
This is an extraordinary piece of work. Thank you! I will definitely have to rewatch it. What about all the cult activity? Where does it fit into what you've presented here? And, do you ever read anything about Manahen? I've got a hunch about him.
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra.
El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.)
Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
_Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
The name "Pharoah" means "Great House"
or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
"As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on.
Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
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isn’t there a massive debate on whether or not Pythagoras was even a real person? the first texts written about him were 150 years after he supposedly died, and those weren’t detailed either. the first detailed texts about his life were written by his followers 800 years after death. to add further, “he”wasn’t even the first to discover his theorem.
Great collection of facts. You have definitely been researching. I wonder about the name Shiva. In Hinduism, Shiva is part of the trilogy of Brahman, Vishnu, Shiva. In Judaism, Shiva is a name for God I believe. I saw it on Jewish temples in LA and wonder about how the two religions share the same name.
The number nineteen is a sacred number in Islam. When I discovered the Metonic Cycle of the Sun, Earth and Moon I understood why. The Solar and
Lunar clocks reconcile every nineteen years, to the day, to the minute. I also studied the Zodiac and hexadecimal number system and am fascinated by much of the knowledge you have accumulated. The knowledge of the stars, the planets, the circumference of the earth, the origin of the meter and the foot, the sacred numbers, and the language of mathematics is truly fascinating. Much of this knowledge and more is found in ancient Egypt and other neolithic sites around the world. Leave it to the Roman Catholics to replace real knowledge and understanding with a book written in Latin that only they can read and understand.
The feathered serpent? Isn't it a fact that birds evolved from dinosaurs, reptiles? They are related in the distant past.
It is interesting to study and discover how the Jews, growing up in the midst of the Egyptian, Assyrian, Hittite, Babylonian, Phoenician, and Greek empires have borrowed a lot of their mythology and origin stories. A deep dive into Greece reveals quite a bit about the Bronze Age and prehistoric times. Their mythology and origin stories are fascinating.
@@Scott_works feathered serpent is a reference to the King of the Phoenicians, the Messiah or Seer, who is wise as a serpent and as gentle as a dove. The dove is Columbia, the Goddess of Death and Suffering, aka the Holy Spirit. It also relates to the Pharoah and John the Baptist, specifically the Summer Solstice, and to a white egret or Heron perched upon the back of a dragon (Alligator, etymology of the name is interesting, Alli, Illa, Illiad, Ennead, all references to the 9)
So in a sense a feathered serpent is the return of Storks or Egrets that sit upon the backs of gators heralding the flooding of the Nile. India still celebrate the appearance of Pleaides and Sirius at that time, and the Maori do too in Winter
Coincidence?
Nah
Flip the map upside down and you have your answers
And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? JêsûsCrîst
Brother, you're ahead of the curve. PLEASE keep doing what you're doing, and THANK YOU.
I really enjoy these video essays you guys do. You should bind the transcripts into a book or two. Or ten!
Yup Sophia's here now ❤ ty for sharing. Wonderful story
Excellent video. It’s enjoyable when the voiceover is done yourselves instead of the ai, it’s the personal touch that makes these documentaries more memorable.
Where did you get the information on revelations 20:11-15? You're the only person I've ever heard quote it that way.
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Amazing documentary! Watched it in its entirety during one sitting.
1:12:52 Its not only biblically accurate, but it also fits in a more larger view the west Semitic culture, that the God of the sun is always associated with justice and judgment.
1:39 I have never see a such elaborate and complete diagram of the gnostic theogony, I'm impressed ! Your videos improve in quality each time, bravo 👏🏼 !
I totally agree with what many have said before me...i love this documentary and will be using this as an educational tool for myself... As i will need to watch this several times, while taking notes... In order to really appreciate and soak in the knowledge here. Thank you so much for putting in your time and effort to bring this to the world... Most amazing stuff here!!!
Gentlemen... This epic, scholarly look into the early Christian religion will soon become a classic. The weaving together of all the different details that influenced those early Christ believers is just what believers, non-believers and those who don't know what to believe, needed to understand the people, the cultures and how their various beliefs created something that started outt with Christ's humble teachings.
Truly great work.
LOL outrageously ridiculous. this is an opinion piece and assumptions not based on much fact. a little here and there perhaps. mostly based on revisionism and unenlightened pagan belief mindset. FICTION.
Been so excited for this one. Grabbing the popcorn haha 🎉❤
Same
Lol to listen to a uneducated Lay ? Smh
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lol nice
Love your channel
There is so much information to process in this video. I feel like I’m hearing it but can’t process it at the speed it’s being given to me. Will have to revisit this many times, thanks!
Thanks for this video, it was really informative. I find it very tricky trying to educate myself on the first century on Christianity. I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and they too claim to have the "correct knowledge" of the scriptures and claim to be what the first century Christians were really like. They were founded in the late 1800's by a guy who mixed Freemasonry/Gnosticism with Christian Protestantism to create his own doomsday cult.
I find is fascinating how much people look back to this time period and try to uncover the secret knowledge that these people might have had using only fragments of documents. This stuff will be debated over forever it seems.
bravo Gnostic Informant! Ive been following this beat for years and i have never seen such a rich treasure trove of scholarship all in one video. this is information that needs to be out there, you have done a great service thank you🙏
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What are your sources for the dates you give early on in the video for the dates of the canonical books you talk about? Eg, you put the date of the synoptic gospels much later than historians generally ascribe.
Now THIS is Bible study "in context". Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤ Honest to goodness if the economy didnt tank and I had the money liked I used to 3 years ago, I would help you each month. I am going to have to try to figure out how to send you a little bit just as the smallest thank you I could even give.
Save your money. If you're that far down on your luck, you shouldn't be sending money to content creators.
@@mjt1517 I totally get you. I do it as a thank you for all their time and effort and my enjoyment. I couldn't do monthly but I believe in giving as much as I can, even when I'm down.
"than a Mormon is from a Catholic." Yes, this is quite true and I figured this out myself. Nice to hear some confirmation of this. The Earliest Christianity was truly diverse. And the pre-Christian religion of Jews and others was also very diverse.
Great question, Neil: who was Paul writing to? I kind of remember that Paul mentions in one of his letters some old congregant who has been in the church since childhood. Anybody knows if this is true? If true, the chronology is incompatible with the consensus dates for Jesus and Paul.
The fact that I just had a spiritual reawakening and my name is Sophia... That thumbnail paired with the title felt almost as if I was being directly addressed.
Wonderful!. I have been working on a theology that I can understand, and was thrilled to hear in the vid that the early believers believed very closely the understanding that I have come to. I studied the Gnostics ( probably in a superficial haphazard way) because the gospel was just too simple as it was portrayed to me at that time. I have just ordered Mead's book 'Fragments of a Faith Forgotten' about the Gnostics that I had burnt forty years ago in line with the fearful superstitious phobia of the religious institution that I eventually got sucked into for a season of time -ha. My theology is centred around the Most High's desire to have family. The Word, the Logos ((Christ Spirit) was always in His mind, just as the feminine side of His nature ( the Holy Spirit) was as well.( as now is confirmed as Sophia). So in a blooodless creation (as in John's gospel), the Father and "Mother" brought forth the Logos as the only begotten Son. This was the first family. The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and as a child called Jesus, grew in wisdom, learning from the Logos within him. He was baptised by John and received the Holy Spirit of the Most High from his "Mother" , and at that point became Jesus the Christ.- the Logos - who being the last Adam, being made in the image of his parents, was both male and female, just as the first Adam was before Eve was made ( so that Adam could fully appreciate this side of his character) a companion for him and from him as the start of a larger family---------this is just the start -ha. The Gnostics had a book called Pistis Sophia which means Faith and Wisdom, so Sophia is Wisdom personified. Cheers. 😊
Whoops. My theology was not liked by you know who.
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WooooW !!!! This was freaking AWESOME!!
SUBSCRIBED & THANK YOU!
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So good!
Quite a documentary, very well researched. Keep up the great work.
why do you guys keep saying documentary? this is strictly opinions .
@@theCosmicQueen based on FACTS
Very much so.
@@theCosmicQueenit is well researched
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This is a monumental achievement, Neil and Derek! Am in the thick of it with no signs of stopping! This just made my night shift bearable.
Thanks for the video! It must of taken a good while to put together.
Regarding Zeus, instead of ‘zoos’ shouldn’t we be saying ‘zayoos’? As in Deus? As in Perseus, Theseus, Wolfgang Amadeus, and everywhere else the suffix ‘-seus’ is used?
Don't forget Dr. Seuss
No. Zyoos will do.
what about... "zoys"?
They change the name when they get caught
This is littered with so many mispronunciations, he sounds like ian AI.
Vine-Yard? Nobody ever says Vine-Yard. It is pronounced vinyerd.
I am a exmo and it's just been a really rough time since I left. Shunned and refuse to help me if I dare to actually need any help from my supposed fellow friends and parishioners
what is an exmo?
@@jillfryer6699 ex Mormon
@@jillfryer6699an Exmo is a former Mormon
So sorry this happens to you.
Brother. Let the love of God guide you on your journey. Praying for you, my brother.
Gnostic or not, we all have faith.
Well done - thank you so much for presenting this information in such an accessible format - I know how hard it is to do this style of video -maybe we could do a collaboration together one-day?
Truly remarkable video
I’ve going into Ak many rabbit holes lately thanks to you and Dr.Ammon.
Thank you for your hard work and interest in these subjects
What I know for sure is that saying the name JESUS out loud to start what I thought would be my final words and prayer made the “Demon Tree”, for lack of any better description, release my chest from it branches up high and the roots that came out of the ground, wrapping around my ankles also released and I ran for my life looking back to see a mean wincing face in the bark of the tree. I never wanted to go back there again….
very interesting documentary. As a hereditary Wiccan I find this information very enlightening. Very in-depth research- awesome delivery🙌🏽
I studied a Fam Trad called Tower for awhile until they respectfully declined to teach me anymore because I wasn't a relative. The Matriarch made this decision. Instead I studied and was initiated in Anderson Feri Tradition and I know that it was ultimately the best decision for me.
I deeply respect the Family Traditions though. Feri is much more of an esctatic Mystery Religion, it's not Wicca, Tower was Kitchen Witchery and Feri was a better "fit".
I also deeply resonate to the Sufi rituals, especially Zikr, and Thunder the Perfect Mind from the Nag Hammadi is incredible.
I enjoyed this video very much, it was familiar to me.
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The valentinian system of the triad is certainly Pythagorean by nature. Good content.
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra.
El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.)
Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
_Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
The name "Pharoah" means "Great House"
or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
"As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on.
Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
@@Uncanny_MountainPythagoras was born at Samos at Pythagoreo.
@@RealPathfinder3 In 582 B.C., at Sidon, Mnesarchus and Pythias had a son. They named him, too, in the Pythian tradition. He was Pythagoras (pith-AG-or-us). The family moved to Samos, which some sources list as Pythagoras's birthplace.
All you had to do was fact check *YOURSELF* 🤡
Marcelina is my new hero :)
P.s this video was incredible informative
Minor thing at 1:04:32
Marcion's canon didn't have "Acts", it had the misnomered "Proto-Luke" or Evangelion.
It's important to note that the earliest record we have of something resembling Luke is detached from Acts, and saying that Marcion had a version of Luke-Acts suggests that Marcion had a story about the apostles in his Gospel, which he certainly did not.
Oh if not for Marcions pen!
Wait, what exactly is the lie? It is of course common knowledge that there were Gnostics and other alternative believers at the beginning - which is of course what is to be expected. Imagine if a miracle like the resurrection happened today. Some people (the close followers of the person) would get his ideas right, while others would try to hijack this and make it fit with their existing beliefs.
Lol the issue is "those close followers" never actually wrote their own gospels someone else did so they could assume their authority
@@Dussmasterzero This is NOT the current understanding of where/when the Gospels come from, you are quoting from about 30-40 years ago's understanding. All 4 of the major gospels are now believed (with alot of evidence) to be written within the lifetimes of many of the disciples.
@@chrismcaulay7805 I guess you have no idea how the Orthodox not only gathered up & burnt the gospels of the Ebionites, Nazarenes & Hebrews, but also took great joy exterminating the sects themselves.
@@robbielee2148 What about what I said had anything to do with that?
Also, provided they were not teaching the same message that Jesus and the disciples taught, then who cares?
@@chrismcaulay7805If a group murdered other people because of their beliefs then they didn’t really follow Jesus’ teachings either did they?
It is quite gratifying to see at 8:41 that you point out the fact that early Christianity ran the gamut from pagan to Jewish. From what I've read, this was because it pre-dated Jesus and his followers by up to 400 years. When the remnants of Alexander the Great's army returned to Greece, they brought many new ideas, traditions, and spiritual teachings with them. They also brought back Hindu and Buddhist teachers, who began teaching the Greeks."Kristos" in Greek (Krestus in Latin and Christ in English) was the name by which the Greeks knew the Hindu god, Krishna. What could be termed "Krishna-ianity"became a dominant spiritual path in Greece, primarily through the Pythagoreans. A Greek version of Buddhism also became widespread, through both the Stoics and, as I understand it, the Epicurians. As time went on, this "Krishna Consciousness" or "Christ Consciousness" movement spread into the Roman Empire. After the death of Jesus, his teachings were gradually included in the mix, first by the Gnostic, Paul, and later by others in Rome. Eventually the Pauline followers won out politically, and suppressed or destroyed everyone else along with the rest of the pagan religions. It's basically a Hindu/Buddhist/Greco-Roman/gapn religion masquerading as Jewish in origin.
The New Testament tells of competing theologies. The assertion that the first century wasn't all peace and harmony is not really newsworthy. Paul describes those who were sent from the Jerusalem church to destroy his ministry. It was a mess back in the first century.
o Paul tells of those who taught that the resurrection had already come.
o John tells of those who taught that Jesus hadn't come in the flesh
o Peter tells his audience that Paul's writings were on the level of scripture
There were a lot of competing theologies in the first century and the New Testament describes a few.
Please quote a Scholarly work or/and a Critique of that work that mentions any relationship between Krishna,Christ Consciousness ... because this sounds misleading to the utmost degree.
@@ignipotent7276 it's Reasonable speculation, less misleading than you suggest. Official attribution is meaningless (likely to be Christian) when there are only fragments of evidence. However, IMO, the mystical conversion of Christianity more closely resembles the Greek Elysian Mysteries than Indian Vedanta. There Is a strong correlation between Taoism and Greek Epicureanism too. One has the flow of Atoms and the other has yin-yang.
@@jonathanwobesky9507
Ying Yang within the core + - positive and negative the rupus negro.
Dark sun twelve spooked wheel
The christo carried by Orpheus to the masses.
interesting post.
i have to wonder if we should discern between Hebrew Israelites and Ashkenazi Jews though... 🙏🏽 🌳🕊💚
Fascinating work! I love how you connected multiple theologies. It's really fascinating to learn the connections that are there!
Omg yes
That was... a lot.
I can't say I that I didn't lose the plot once or twice, or several (dozen) times, but I still got a lot out of it. I think the biggest reason I could not force myself to become interested in religion back when I was at peak brainwashing age is the same as why I never studied law or medicine: too much latin! One thing that does come through very clearly is that, over the years, those in positions of power molded the Christian narrative to reinforce that power, especially when it came to the roles of women. But what concerns me is the insane number of people that think Revelations foretold modern, recent events; rather than understanding that "666" simply refers to Nero, they're actively cheering for, and in some cases, trying to bring about the end of the world - based upon a book that doesn't even belong in their bible! Insanity, shared delusions... I don't know what else to say about it.
This is scary.
Nice work. I can tell many hours went into this. I am still a Christian though.
Of course. Yes there were gnostics/pagans in Rome who tried to corrupt it. But they were really just from Judea trying to discredit what they thought was the false messiah or wanted to tie it into their old religion to make it more appealing. The early starters of the Orthodox Church saw the corruption after the 2nd crusade and brought the khabbalah to the church
@@DJcontortion😂😂😂😂😂
@@DJcontortion oh so they must have been corrupt as well then.
Stay a Christian... follow the 10 Commandments....Be kind and good to others .
I will be hunkered down and listening 😮
For the fundamentalists. It's no longer about truth. Its about keeping the 'story' alive. Fundamentalists love their story of Jesus, and let them enjoy their fantasy. But when they start spreading hate, in that we're sinners in need of 'their' salvation. Thats when the gloves come off.
Youre pathetic
@razony jesus is story. Jesus was the story in the ot
@deborahproctor9538
The Messiah of the OT was supposed to be a mighty warrior for the Jewish peoples. Jesus was anything but. Jesus is NOT the Messiah. They're can't be a second coming, because the first hasn't happened. Nor will it.
LMAO
Obviously it's all fake but was the point being that they will just always be waiting for the first coming?
Very enjoyable video. It is always amusing to see how the early so-called christians weave in and out the more earlier myths and legends within their own newly created religion thus maintaining the old within the new. What wonderful imaginations those people had and also sad that to see how it later was honed into a weapon and used to persecute whole populations of peoples throughout much of the world causing great misery and death while only being a completely man-made mythology. Even today seeing it corrupt the minds of modern peoples.
It's really sad we have to wonder why humanity is so corrupt as to constantly corrupt life
It is man who corrupted it .A Hebrew man.
Think about it...
Intend to agree with Cainites that the Old Testament god is actually the devil. Or at least a demon. Not a compelling character to my way of thinking.
I think much of what this guy states misses the fact that the bible openly acknowledges that different churches were regularly deviating from the true teachings of Jesus. In fact the letters of Paul are pretty much all him correcting some of those very those heresies...
It is this very fact that lead to the writing down and gathering of the canonical New Testament in order to give people around the Christian world a reference point...
Yes there were LOTS of sects in the early church. This is because there were just a relative few believer on the day Jesus was crusified, and there were many many more churches than primary sources. This is to be expected, its not like they had phones and internet in order to call up the disciples and get answers to their questions. If they couldnt remember exactly what was said when one of the original followers planted their church, they often just made up the answer to a question. The fact that there were many deviations doesnt give evidence for the heresies, rather their correction from disciples give evidence for their falsehoods...
Another issue here is this guy seems to think because a letter was written (Timothy, but also others), it was rapidly disseminated throughout the Christian world... This is CRAZY talk. We know this because ideas spread at a snails pace back then compared to now. Christians in Rome would have documents that wouldnt make it to Grease (which is just across the a very small sea) for over 100 years at times... Also, lets say you got a letter from Paul (or anyone else). How would you even know that that that letter was important to someone 500+ miles away? You may duplicate it for your followers, but its likely you wouldnt immediately send it to another church, as it was meant for your church. It could be DECADES before someone from your church happened to carry that letter to a church that had never seen it.
All this is crazy, the assumptions are based on information traveling extremely fast, and the author here (tho great at looking up things), is viewing the world from a modern perspective...
Gotta say. This is a top notch documentary, arguably the top documentary made based on the importance of the information given. This has greatly increased my understanding of Christianity's formation.
LOL this is strictly a subjective opinion piece. NOT a documentary.
@@theCosmicQueen well I found quite a few inaccuracies, but I've declined to comment on it not wanting to appear overly critical, however the gist of it is true. Early Christianity was a mix of ideas from it's conception and there was originally no label of Gnosticism, just different sects of Christians.
Yes
@@theCosmicQueenyou mad lol
😂😂 there is nothing Christian about this!
Brilliant. You freed the re-search from the shackles of logic driven academia up to the level of The Aesthetic or the Numinous through your crafted presentations. Art history, Choral music, etc all the other elements of the Aesthetic take a fully academic exercise up the level of epiphany thru the (non-linear) arts and mysticism in your narration and in your image and music components +++ Bravo🎉
Yessssss! Let's go! Every day a little piece of the great curtain falls.
yep