FINALLY someone brings up DC’s greatness. If he wasn’t chasing the Olympics he’d be the goat today. Did all of that greatness in his late 30s. Top 5 dead or alive.
Dude-DC is legitimately one of the most underrated Fighters ever. I do think that most people would rank him somewhere around #8-15 on a List of the Greatest of All Time-So, it’s not like people completely dismiss how great he was; But, I _still_ think he’s underappreciated, for numerous reasons. For one thing, Imho DC is without question, _THE most underrated Striker ever._ He was one of the Greatest/Most effective/Most intelligent MMA Strikers in the history of the Sport… yet people NEVER even talk about it, let alone, consider him one of the best Strikers of all time. His Striking was so good-that _Stipe Miocic,_ a Golden Gloves Boxing Champ-who became the UFC Champ by outboxing guys… That same guy could not stay in the pocket and Box with DC, because DC chewed him up, every single time. And to be clear, I absolutely love Stipe, and I think he’s also Top 10 All Time. I just think that shows how great DC’s Stand-Up was. And it wasn’t just his dirty boxing that was great; He had an excellent jab, and he actually had great technical-kickboxing; he was just rarely able to utilize it because he was always at a huge size disadvantage; So, he had to fight on the inside, and rely on his intelligence. But, if you watch the fights where he didn’t have to stay on the inside-he had beautiful technical Striking. His fight against Nelson is one of the best examples. The fact that people don’t talk about his Striking annoys me so much, that I got heated just thinking about it, and had to go on this insanely long rant lol. Long story short-He is one of the MMA Best Strikers of all time, and he did it all-while being at a massive size disadvantage.
The real list should be mighty mouse, anderson silva, jon jones, gsp, then maybe DC, khabib, or couture or benson henderson. People sleep on mighty mouse waaaaaay too much. But if you know, you know. The guy is legit.
@@doubler4064 are you serious?? After shin broke, silva never should have fought again. Show me a fighter he did not destroy in 2 weight classes and 2 promotions. And now silva is destroying people in the boxing ring. Jones is the only enemy he cannot defeat. When he fights clean. He still roughed up everyone he came across. Hes a freak of nature at 205. And im bettin since you want to mention that shit, you do not even know who mighty mouse is, do you?
@@doubler4064 cope, there’s a scoring system in mma, you either win by points or finish your opponents, you have zero knowledge on wtf your talking about.😂😂😂😂
@@user-ry9zo6cl6k gsp took plenty of L's. He couldnt even control his weight class when him, matt serra and matt hughes were fighting. Do you even know what you are talking about?
GSP definitely ranks higher than Khabib imo. GSP has 13 title W's that include 10 title defenses. Khabib has 4 title wins and 3 title defenses. And they have very comparable records of GSP's 26-2 and Khabib obviously with the 29-0. GSP is even Khabib's proclaimed favorite fighter as well as Khabib's father, Abdulmanap's favorite fighter.
@@cryptocaesar8972 let's be real he was on steroids but to be fair to him so we're his opponents what he did to vitor is still impressive even on steroids
@Ihaab only finishes before drug test, no finishes after drug test......was always a cheater, im not saying he his not great, but without drugs he is not as spectacular, he beat dc on drugs
The reason why people relate to the diaz bros because at least here in the 209 that's how most people fight talking shit smacking people who ain't down to fight all while talking shit will doing it pretty sure it's universal
DC also had 7000 ng/dl of testosterone in his 2nd fight with Jon jones. Nobody talked about because Jon was caught with turinabol, but it was clear that DC was using something to alter his hormones as well it’s just he didn’t directly pop for anything.
@@Too80sForThis the 3 of them are on steroids 🤣 Khabib is the most dominant fighter ever whether he moved up weight or not doesn't have anuthing to do with dominance he is the true undefeated fighter you could possibly imagine.
THANK YOU. Imho, Aldo’s resume is way ahead of Jones’s. Aldo fought infinitely better competition. Edgar 2x(Champ), Mendes 2x, Brown(Champ) Faber(Champ), Font, Vera, TKZ, Munhoz, Florian, Hominick, Swanson, Lamas… Aldo was fighting _legit_ top p4p fighters. DC and _maybe_ Gus-were the only guys Jones fought that were legitimately, _”Elite”,_ Top p4p fighters-at the time Jones fought them. Rampage, Chael, Glover, Santos, Smith, OSP… Those guys NEVER would’ve been near the top of their division if they had been 135-155 lbs. It drives me crazy how people just gloss over that. And It amazes how people can watch a fight like Cruz v. Dillashaw, or Aldo v. Max-and think that Jones’s competition was on the same level as the guys in the smaller divisions.
@@CipherSerpico Hahahaha your insane, Aldo is top 5 but does not have the resume that Jon has Bader, shogun, machida, rampage, Rashad, trt vitor, glover, dc x2, Gustafsson x2, oh and he beat Stephan Bonnar with 9 months of MMA training lol. You cannot compare those names to "rob font and lamas" Jon dominated everyone, except for: Gustafsson 1, because he didn't train, and Santos and Reyes, BECAUSE HED BEEN CHAMPION SINCE 2011, ALMOST 10 YEARS BY THEN. People love to shit on Jon but he's the clear goat
@@naughtynoose749 1. Tell me which of those fighters, apart from DC, was one of the top p4p fighters in the world-when Jones fought them. I don’t care how many of them were “Champs”, I don’t care about Shogun being the Champ when Jones beat him; Which of them was a _truly Elite_ fighter? Who did Jones beat-That could’ve been a Champ if they had been 135-170 lbs.? Which of them would’ve had a good chance of beating the top fighters in the other divisions; Who did Jones beat that was on the same level of guys like _Aldo, Holloway, Conor, Dillashaw, GSP, DJ, Cruz, Edgar…?_ 2. I guarantee that you did not start watching MMA until _after_ Aldo’s reign; Otherwise, you’d know how ridiculous it is to say that Aldo’s resume isn’t as good as Jones’s. Jones was fighting POPULAR fighters, towards the end/on the downside of their careers. Aldo was fighting ELITE Fighters, IN THEIR PRIME. 3. “Jones dominated everyone except for Gus”; Ok. Let’s start with DC. Explain how he dominated DC in their first fight. 4. Tell me all of Aldo’s title wins that were not “as dominant as Jones’s”.
Aldo is great but Honestly he’s battling for the 5th to 8th spot with Guys Like DC, Cejudo, Stipe and Fedor and I wouldn’t even put him at 5. DJ over Aldo.
Mcgregor should be in there......won 145, 155 at cagewarriors, ufc:interim, 145 and 155......5 belts all by magical finishes....he may have lost some when he was past his prime being too rich, but hungry he just killed the scene when the pressure was on
its harder to go up in weight class than defend against a nobody to be honest, who is talking about demetrious johnson?? thats right cause he defends only and when he went up against cruz he lost, adesanya lost and holloway too when they went up, only the greats win belts in higher classes
Wait a minute. He removed Jon Jones because of bad test and left Anderson Silva. Silva also test positive for steroids so his argument is flawed. Recency bias at its finest. Jone Jones is GOAT. He only test positive for cocaine and miniscule picogram.
@@biggiecheese2729 same Ngannou that ragdolled Cyril? You mustn't have seen what Ngannou did to Stipe - the purported best heavyweight ever. The man only needed just minor increases in technical skill to be the baddest man on the planet and he's still improving
No one would agree to fight Khabib until he had the belt. That’s says everything. The guys who could have fought him refused to. Who was gonna beat Khabib if they did agree to fight him? No one. Khabib is the goat!
With all due respect, he is definitely not the GOAT. A lot of the 29 are tomato cans. While he is definitely one of the best the UFC has had, only 3 title defences precludes hjm grom GOAT argument, sorry.
@@PK-sc2vn Quote the part where you answered any of these questions: 1. _How does the “number of title defenses” have anything to do with how good someone is, and how does that determine that one fighter is better than another fighter-in any way whatsoever?_ _If a Fighter in the LFA has 25 title defenses-that means that he is the greatest fighter ever since he has more title defenses than Jones?_ 2. _You’re saying that Jones’s wins against Chael Sonnen, Rampage Jackson, Anthony Smith, Ovince Saint Preux, Glover Teixeira… are all better wins than Khabib’s non-title win over Rafael Dos Anjos?_ _Beating guys that are nowhere near “Top p4p/Elite” Fighters-is better than winning a non-title fight against one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world?_ _Usman’s two “title defenses” against Jorge Masvidal are worth more than Khabib’s win over Dos Anjos?_ _Winning a title fight against someone that is not even among the 10 best fighters in the division-is worth more than winning a non-title fight against one of the best p4p fighters in the world? _Usman’s two title defenses against Jorge Masvidal are BOTH more important than ALL of Poirier’s wins against *Holloway (Champ), Gaethje, Conor 2x (Champ-Champ), Alvarez (Champ), and Pettis (Champ)* - because Usman’s two fights against Masvidal were “title defenses”? _That’s your argument?_
@@CipherSerpico ok then- can you honestly tell me that P4P, Khabib has fought the same calibre of fighters that Jones has? This guy claimed Khabib was the GOAT. Does he (or you) genuinely believe that he is a better rounded fighter than Jones? Jones, regardless of PEDs, ie quite clearly the best fighter the UFC has had.
ridiculous to put GSP over Jon Jones when GSP has the most HGH gut in sports history. people know everyone uses but only point it out at favorable times. and to put the cherry on top, Chael was never a champ but he's top 5? at that point, your whole top 5 is null and void #F#ckOuttaHere
There's two categories that everyone is getting twisted right now. Are we talking about the "greatest" or "most dominant"... Jon Jones can be considered #1 in both categories. GSP is one of the greatest bright behind Jones, Khabib is number two in the most dominant category behind Jones.
@@cryptocaesar8972 Nobody beat Khabib. And I believe he had 13 UFC fights and 3 title defenses. Are you saying he didn't beat any tough fighters during that run ?? And are you saying he lost numerous rounds during all those fights ?? Like I said... When it comes to "dominant" fighters he's somewhere near the top of that list.
@@marcusjones1432 Nobody beat Khabib but he also wasn’t in the UFC doing what everyone else was doing as long as everyone else either. What I meant to say is that GSP all together had 13 title fight wins counting his matches to regain the belt and taking the middleweight belt plus interim belt. In that roster he fought every style of opponent, the best grapplers, the best strikers, and everything in between. When you’re champ you have a target on your back, it’s far more impressive to have a run as champ rather than be a random on a win streak. Styles also make match ups, khabib ended up in a top heavy division of strikers, Conor, Dustin, Gaetje, all his defenses, they’re all strikers, that’s why people wanted to see Tony so badly when they were in their primes. We never really got to see him against an array of elite different styles, he also never went up in weight and tested himself against bigger opponents like GSP did, like Jones is doing, like Mighty Mouse and Anderson Silva and Nunes did. He really has no accolades to his name other undefeated which he had way less fights than all the people above in the UFC so not the most impressive, and won most of his rounds, except once he became champ he lost a round to Conor and he lost a round to Gaetje. It’s not easy to keep such accolades as champ.
Steroids!! Steroids!! Once he got busted he struggled in every fight after that. No where as dominant as he was before. Sorry steroid cheats can’t be consider the GOAT
Khabib didn’t do enough, could’ve been the goat but not enough of a resume . If Jon jones is dq’d than so should be Anderson . Gsp, Bones , Silva, khabib, fedor.
Nah khabib is top ten, not top 5, there’s plenty of fighters that have a better resume then him, stop looking at that record, I bet you can only name 9 top level fighters he fought out of the 19 cans he crushed, and sorry to tell ya, the he never fought a wrestler or well rounded opponent, cause most of them were in the weight class above him, it’s okay he retired cause he would’ve got rag dolled by Colby, Tyrone, Gilbert burns, & usman.😂😂😂😂😂
Jon Jones is NOT the “most dominant MMA Fighter of all time”. And Imho, to say that he is-is absurd. The most dominant fighter of all time IS *Khabib Nurmagomedov.* Not only is that virtually indisputable-But, to say that _Jon Jones_ was more dominant than Khabib… that’s total insanity. First, let’s talk about when Jones was in his prime and how he did against his toughest opponents: Was he dominant against Gus? Was he dominant against DC? Both of those fights were extremely close/competitive. And notice that I’m not even mentioning the fight against Reyes (which he clearly lost), or the fight against Santos (which he also might’ve lost). I’m not even using those examples because they were later in his career, when he wasn’t at his best. He had dominant performances against Shogun, Rampage, and Evans; He had good/fairly dominant performances against Vitor (apart from the armbar he got caught in), Glover, and Machida (apart from the first round); And he had _”non-dominant/extremely difficult_ fights against Gus and DC-The two best opponents he fought. Now, let’s talk about Khabib and how he did against _his_ toughest opponents: Dominantly beat and submitted Poirier. Dominantly beat and submitted Gaethje. Dominantly beat and submitted Conor. Dominantly beat Dos Anjos for the entire fight. Dominantly beat Barboza for the entire fight. Dominantly beat and submitted Johnson. So… having two extremely competitive fights, a few dominant fights, and a few mildly dominant fights - vs. - never having a single close fight, and completely dominating every fight, and finishing most of them… Which of those resumes is more dominant: Jones’s or Khabib’s?
Jones fought the best competition in the world for a decade. 15 titles. girly man Khabib retired after defense number 3. title for title, Jones was just as dominant at defense number 3, then went on to win another 10+ titles. what would have happened had Khabib tried to go for 10 more? he would have breezed through all of them? doubt it.
@@C_G33 “Jones fought the best competition in the world for over a decade”; No. Jones fought _most_ of the best _Light Heavyweights_ that were _ranked in the top 10_ at the time - For _less than_ a decade. Being a dominant Champ at Light Heavyweight _does not mean_ that you are better than a #6 Bantamweight that has been dominated by everyone ranked ahead of him. If a #6 Bantamweight beats #7-10, and those guys are better than the top Light-Heavy contenders - Then, that #6 Bantamweight is a better Fighter than that Light-Heavyweight Champ. The “top contenders” that Jones fought were _nowhere_ near as good as the contenders at 125-170 lbs. Rampage, St. Preux, Sonnen, Teixeira, Smith, Santos, Reyes, etc. etc… If those guys would’ve been smaller and fought at 125-170 lbs. rather than 205-they wouldn’t have even been contenders, let alone-getting title shots. They were _nowhere near_ the level of guys like Aldo, Dillashaw, DJ, Poirier, Holloway, Edgar, Conor, Cejudo, Cruz; and they were nowhere near the level of guys that were at Lightweight while Khabib was in the division. Next - Khabib was MUCH more dominant than Jones. Jones 100% lost to Reyes, he probably lost to Santos, he had an absolutely razor thin fight against Gus, and he had a very close fight against DC; Khabib lost, at MOST-two _rounds._ _Two _*_losses_*_ + two close fights_ vs. _Two close _*_rounds_*_ …_ Khabib was _much more dominant,_ in a _much better division._
@@CipherSerpico nah. you're just going on big rants making points i'm not in agreement with, and instead of going on one of my own, i kept it short, sweet, and to the basic facts. but carry on.
Can we agree Chandler didn't pick kabib because of little beef he has with Makhachev. Kabib is GOAT for me! BTW khabib never lost a round, let alone a fight. Hence Khabib and Jon Jones at the GOAT. Although the George is likely individual he list more than one fight!
@@gungaginga9772 like seriously he made fight look easy against fighter like dustin,connor,justin like the guy never even go down on his knee from a punch justin hit him hard several time the guy was standing straight didn't even finch from those hits like bro cmon khabib have 29-0 record for nothing never lost a round have been dominating other fighter like fighters are his harem bitches
DC also had 7000 ng/dl of testosterone in his 2nd fight with Jon jones. Nobody talked about because Jon was caught with turinabol, but it was clear that DC was using something to alter his hormones as well it’s just he didn’t directly pop for anything.
Jon Jones is the greatest fighter of all time. GSP is who champions aspire to be.
Well said
Yes gsp is second imo
Welp, no. He used 💉 and is a cheater. Hell never be the goat
@@buzzardscry1383 He juiced but even without it he'd have still dominated and beaten all the guys he beat
@@Sa7biUK Nobody can possibly know that for certain
When Michael was thinking about the 5th all i wanted was hear Demetrius Johnson :(
Same
Or Aldo
FINALLY someone brings up DC’s greatness. If he wasn’t chasing the Olympics he’d be the goat today. Did all of that greatness in his late 30s. Top 5 dead or alive.
Dude-DC is legitimately one of the most underrated Fighters ever.
I do think that most people would rank him somewhere around #8-15 on a List of the Greatest of All Time-So, it’s not like people completely dismiss how great he was; But, I _still_ think he’s underappreciated, for numerous reasons.
For one thing, Imho DC is without question, _THE most underrated Striker ever._
He was one of the Greatest/Most effective/Most intelligent MMA Strikers in the history of the Sport… yet people NEVER even talk about it, let alone, consider him one of the best Strikers of all time.
His Striking was so good-that _Stipe Miocic,_ a Golden Gloves Boxing Champ-who became the UFC Champ by outboxing guys… That same guy could not stay in the pocket and Box with DC, because DC chewed him up, every single time.
And to be clear, I absolutely love Stipe, and I think he’s also Top 10 All Time. I just think that shows how great DC’s Stand-Up was.
And it wasn’t just his dirty boxing that was great; He had an excellent jab, and he actually had great technical-kickboxing; he was just rarely able to utilize it because he was always at a huge size disadvantage; So, he had to fight on the inside, and rely on his intelligence. But, if you watch the fights where he didn’t have to stay on the inside-he had beautiful technical Striking. His fight against Nelson is one of the best examples.
The fact that people don’t talk about his Striking annoys me so much, that I got heated just thinking about it, and had to go on this insanely long rant lol.
Long story short-He is one of the MMA Best Strikers of all time, and he did it all-while being at a massive size disadvantage.
Natty GOAT.
Why the fuck does NOBODY bring up Demetrius “Mighty Mouse” Johnson??? Oh how MMA fans are so forgetful…
Literally everyone in the comments is talking about him lol
He is small
@@seetsamolapo5600alexander the great was small 5'2 almost,yet he's still the goat
If JON not in your list I don't wanna hear NOTHING after
Same
Demetrius Johnson is the GOAT
He is number one all time on my list too!
Facts
Undisputed
That guy who was “surprised” that mike put GSP over khabib should have no opinions on fighting if he’s surprised at that much of a no brainer.
Khabib never been dropped
@@hmsp7799 is that what defines greates fighter in ufc history
@@hmsp7799 dude beat only like 3 guys. Stfu
@@MsAnonomys they conflated from dominant to greatest
that make me surprise brother he did 20 years MMA game and now you want to show to him who is the real goat
DJ?? Cmon...
I don’t understand why he isn’t a huge star. His social media presence is almost non existent for a dominant champion like him.
Dimitri Johnson “Mighty Mouse” ?
The real list should be mighty mouse, anderson silva, jon jones, gsp, then maybe DC, khabib, or couture or benson henderson. People sleep on mighty mouse waaaaaay too much. But if you know, you know. The guy is legit.
Nah Anderson took too many Ls he’d only be in it if we r talking about primes.
@@doubler4064 are you serious?? After shin broke, silva never should have fought again. Show me a fighter he did not destroy in 2 weight classes and 2 promotions. And now silva is destroying people in the boxing ring.
Jones is the only enemy he cannot defeat. When he fights clean. He still roughed up everyone he came across. Hes a freak of nature at 205.
And im bettin since you want to mention that shit, you do not even know who mighty mouse is, do you?
@@doubler4064 cope, there’s a scoring system in mma, you either win by points or finish your opponents, you have zero knowledge on wtf your talking about.😂😂😂😂
@@user-ry9zo6cl6k gsp took plenty of L's. He couldnt even control his weight class when him, matt serra and matt hughes were fighting. Do you even know what you are talking about?
@@jdelgado243 GSP avenged both his loses. Just want to correct you since you speak like you know everything about mma.
Stipe is the greatest heavyweight of all time
lmao no.
That Elon musk drawing 👌
GSP definitely ranks higher than Khabib imo. GSP has 13 title W's that include 10 title defenses. Khabib has 4 title wins and 3 title defenses. And they have very comparable records of GSP's 26-2 and Khabib obviously with the 29-0. GSP is even Khabib's proclaimed favorite fighter as well as Khabib's father, Abdulmanap's favorite fighter.
He was a fanboy!
He said Jon is out over a failed ped test, yet, Anderson failed one too but still made the list
Same with Chael
Anderson got tested positive way after he had accomplished everything. He used steroids for treating his broken leg.
I’m pretty positive Anderson failed after his leg break which certain steroids would be prescribed for healing purposes.
@@cryptocaesar8972 let's be real he was on steroids but to be fair to him so we're his opponents what he did to vitor is still impressive even on steroids
Exactly why the entire PED talk is fucking stupid. If that was the case then Fedor and 99% of PRIDE will be disqualified which is stupid.
Jones and GSP are the GOAT's no doubt
False. Jon's is a roid user. He can never be anything other than a cheat who was good at fighting
jon jones cheated over and over.....when he stopped he barely won by decision his fights, no domination there....a cheater
@@mrdubois4547 that's not true. Yes the fights against Reyes and Santos weren't great, but what about Gus and Smith even?
@Ihaab only finishes before drug test, no finishes after drug test......was always a cheater, im not saying he his not great, but without drugs he is not as spectacular, he beat dc on drugs
@Ihaab using steroids
The reason why people relate to the diaz bros because at least here in the 209 that's how most people fight talking shit smacking people who ain't down to fight all while talking shit will doing it pretty sure it's universal
Jon jones is the modern day gladiator
you forgot Jose Aldo - featherweight champ who was undefeated for 10 years
Silva had a failed test also following the leg snap!
DC also had 7000 ng/dl of testosterone in his 2nd fight with Jon jones. Nobody talked about because Jon was caught with turinabol, but it was clear that DC was using something to alter his hormones as well it’s just he didn’t directly pop for anything.
No - The truth is, Khabib is the most DOMINANT fighter of all time.
LMAOOOOO HE never went up. Stayed at 155. Please. Jones,Silva,Gsp. Khabib not even in the top 10
@@Too80sForThis the 3 of them are on steroids 🤣
Khabib is the most dominant fighter ever whether he moved up weight or not doesn't have anuthing to do with dominance he is the true undefeated fighter you could possibly imagine.
@@madworker1927 khabib never moved from 155. Dying if dehydration because he was scared of the big boys. 155v goat but not ufc goat
@@Too80sForThis I never claimed he is the goat but he is the most dominant fighter ever it's a fact.
@@Too80sForThis the real goat is Fedor imo
Funny he dint put Mighty Mouse in his top 5
My top 5. Triple C Khabibi Fedor Stipe DC
I know that's your list but come on. Smh
@@Too80sForThis bro has the worst list I’ve ever seen😂
@@biggiecheese2729 lmfao he'll ya lol 😂😂
@@biggiecheese2729 kabibi?
Everyone have own preference.....fighter not excluded......its debatable off coz...but lets not hate/resent to each other....peace yo
I love Khabib but gsp is 100 percent above him, better resume, came back after 6 year layoff wins the belt at higher weight class..
How the hell does nobody mention aldo?
THANK YOU.
Imho, Aldo’s resume is way ahead of Jones’s. Aldo fought infinitely better competition.
Edgar 2x(Champ), Mendes 2x, Brown(Champ) Faber(Champ), Font, Vera, TKZ, Munhoz, Florian, Hominick, Swanson, Lamas…
Aldo was fighting _legit_ top p4p fighters.
DC and _maybe_ Gus-were the only guys Jones fought that were legitimately, _”Elite”,_ Top p4p fighters-at the time Jones fought them.
Rampage, Chael, Glover, Santos, Smith, OSP…
Those guys NEVER would’ve been near the top of their division if they had been 135-155 lbs.
It drives me crazy how people just gloss over that. And It amazes how people can watch a fight like Cruz v. Dillashaw, or Aldo v. Max-and think that Jones’s competition was on the same level as the guys in the smaller divisions.
@@CipherSerpico Hahahaha your insane, Aldo is top 5 but does not have the resume that Jon has
Bader, shogun, machida, rampage, Rashad, trt vitor, glover, dc x2, Gustafsson x2, oh and he beat Stephan Bonnar with 9 months of MMA training lol.
You cannot compare those names to "rob font and lamas"
Jon dominated everyone, except for: Gustafsson 1, because he didn't train, and Santos and Reyes, BECAUSE HED BEEN CHAMPION SINCE 2011, ALMOST 10 YEARS BY THEN.
People love to shit on Jon but he's the clear goat
@@naughtynoose749 1. Tell me which of those fighters, apart from DC, was one of the top p4p fighters in the world-when Jones fought them. I don’t care how many of them were “Champs”, I don’t care about Shogun being the Champ when Jones beat him;
Which of them was a _truly Elite_ fighter?
Who did Jones beat-That could’ve been a Champ if they had been 135-170 lbs.?
Which of them would’ve had a good chance of beating the top fighters in the other divisions; Who did Jones beat that was on the same level of guys like _Aldo, Holloway, Conor, Dillashaw, GSP, DJ, Cruz, Edgar…?_
2. I guarantee that you did not start watching MMA until _after_ Aldo’s reign; Otherwise, you’d know how ridiculous it is to say that Aldo’s resume isn’t as good as Jones’s.
Jones was fighting POPULAR fighters, towards the end/on the downside of their careers.
Aldo was fighting ELITE Fighters, IN THEIR PRIME.
3. “Jones dominated everyone except for Gus”;
Ok. Let’s start with DC.
Explain how he dominated DC in their first fight.
4. Tell me all of Aldo’s title wins that were not “as dominant as Jones’s”.
@@CipherSerpico you got the shittest p4p list ever bro
Aldo is great but Honestly he’s battling for the 5th to 8th spot with Guys Like DC, Cejudo, Stipe and Fedor and I wouldn’t even put him at 5. DJ over Aldo.
Showman?
1. Colby
2. CHAOS
3. Covington
Jones;Gsp, Silva , Stipe
Demetrius Johnson, Fedor Emelianenko
Mcgregor should be in there......won 145, 155 at cagewarriors, ufc:interim, 145 and 155......5 belts all by magical finishes....he may have lost some when he was past his prime being too rich, but hungry he just killed the scene when the pressure was on
No he shouldnt he's not even top 5
Not a chance. He had a streak of brilliance then simmered all the way down to the pulp
Never defended any of his belts in the UFC so no he is not the top 5
its harder to go up in weight class than defend against a nobody to be honest, who is talking about demetrious johnson?? thats right cause he defends only and when he went up against cruz he lost, adesanya lost and holloway too when they went up, only the greats win belts in higher classes
Nah, never defended one belt in any top promotion, that is part of the criteria!
You Boys are forgetting The Beast of All Beasts!!!
Fedor!!!!
Gsp, Matt hughes, Anderson silva, couture, liddell, gracie, stipe, & penn. hard list to narrow down really.
khabib is the goat of goats
@@mrmoonlight1001 how many names were back than. How many extreme couture fighters he developed a system for
Wait a minute. He removed Jon Jones because of bad test and left Anderson Silva. Silva also test positive for steroids so his argument is flawed. Recency bias at its finest. Jone Jones is GOAT. He only test positive for cocaine and miniscule picogram.
He also put sonnen in there when he failed a drug test too
skills wise demetrious johnson
he lost when you went up 10 pounds
It's BoNes and Then Anderson SiLva! BoNes put my Dude LyoTo To SLeep! That was such a Sad Night! 😢
Fedor
Jon Jones
Khabib
Silva
Gsp
DC ahead of Jose and Mighty Mouse is hilarious
Ty
I'd like to know if Chandler has ever done coke
Cause under the right circumstances I would DEFINITELY consider it a performance enhancer
Jon Jones is the 🐐
Silva got popped too for roids
Mighty Mouse
I’m with Nate Diaz.
Hard to call someone the GOAT when they hid under the octagon from USADA.
Jon Jones is the GOAT!
Why mention Sonnen who failed drug tests as well. He is a showmen though
Jon, Mighty Mouse, GSP, Anderson, Cruz,
Mighty Mouse is overhyped. By far the weakest record out of all the champions you just mentioned.
@@cryptocaesar8972 he literally has the most consecutive defendes in history, how Tf is that a weak record
@@biggiecheese2729 No he does not lol, Jones does, and against better competition
@@cryptocaesar8972 jones had had the most title fights, not defences, also he’s popped several times
@@biggiecheese2729 Incorrect, Jones had 13 title DEFENSES. MM had 11.
silva took roids too. if you take jones off then you got to take silva off
Jon jones might be able to beat anyone on the planet in his prime.
Ngannou enters the chat
@@seetsamolapo5600 nah prime jones would outgrapple him, ngannou just doesn’t have the ground game
God y’all are stupid. He can only beat up old middleweights. He has never fought at heavyweight and he wouldn’t do shit to prime fedor
@@biggiecheese2729 same Ngannou that ragdolled Cyril? You mustn't have seen what Ngannou did to Stipe - the purported best heavyweight ever. The man only needed just minor increases in technical skill to be the baddest man on the planet and he's still improving
Jon Jones is arguably still in his prime and if he fights at heavyweight we might get to see what side of the argument is more right
Mighty Mouse - GSP - Khabib Nurmagomedov - Jose Aldo - Amanda
Most dominant fighter ever : Khabib Nurmagomedov
You are a fooooool, every one of these champs have more ufc fights than khabob and resume are way impressive
@@keyboardlevelover And they all had ups and downs with losses.... now STFU
No one would agree to fight Khabib until he had the belt. That’s says everything. The guys who could have fought him refused to. Who was gonna beat Khabib if they did agree to fight him? No one. Khabib is the goat!
With all due respect, he is definitely not the GOAT. A lot of the 29 are tomato cans. While he is definitely one of the best the UFC has had, only 3 title defences precludes hjm grom GOAT argument, sorry.
Khasual
@@PK-sc2vn Quote the part where you answered any of these questions:
1. _How does the “number of title defenses” have anything to do with how good someone is, and how does that determine that one fighter is better than another fighter-in any way whatsoever?_
_If a Fighter in the LFA has 25 title defenses-that means that he is the greatest fighter ever since he has more title defenses than Jones?_
2. _You’re saying that Jones’s wins against Chael Sonnen, Rampage Jackson, Anthony Smith, Ovince Saint Preux, Glover Teixeira… are all better wins than Khabib’s non-title win over Rafael Dos Anjos?_
_Beating guys that are nowhere near “Top p4p/Elite” Fighters-is better than winning a non-title fight against one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world?_
_Usman’s two “title defenses” against Jorge Masvidal are worth more than Khabib’s win over Dos Anjos?_
_Winning a title fight against someone that is not even among the 10 best fighters in the division-is worth more than winning a non-title fight against one of the best p4p fighters in the world?
_Usman’s two title defenses against Jorge Masvidal are BOTH more important than ALL of Poirier’s wins against *Holloway (Champ), Gaethje, Conor 2x (Champ-Champ), Alvarez (Champ), and Pettis (Champ)* - because Usman’s two fights against Masvidal were “title defenses”?
_That’s your argument?_
@@CipherSerpico ok then- can you honestly tell me that P4P, Khabib has fought the same calibre of fighters that Jones has? This guy claimed Khabib was the GOAT. Does he (or you) genuinely believe that he is a better rounded fighter than Jones? Jones, regardless of PEDs, ie quite clearly the best fighter the UFC has had.
@@PK-sc2vn You didn’t respond to a single one of the things I asked you.
Might mouse is the goat
Strength of schedule similar??? C'mon Michael
Anderson Silva is the GOAT - Jon Jones / GSP have a lot of controversial wins that should have been losses
How tf u put silva below that lame khbib dude defended his tittle like 2 times lmao
Stipe Miocic in place of DC...
Send your location!
Pride fc > ufc
Beat Cormier 2x.. and Chael wasn't even a fight.. and jon jones isn't in his top 5 but says he's the greatest fighter of all time.. what a..
Showman is Izzy by far
Jones, gsp, Dj, Dc, Silva is the real top 5 khabib shouldn’t even be mentioned only novice casuals will even put khabib in there it’s ridiculous
If Jons isnt in your top one end of it.. im leaving
This dude is a Bellator guy...ask him about that not the Majors
he was* a bellator guy
Might Mouse !!!
ridiculous to put GSP over Jon Jones when GSP has the most HGH gut in sports history. people know everyone uses but only point it out at favorable times. and to put the cherry on top, Chael was never a champ but he's top 5? at that point, your whole top 5 is null and void #F#ckOuttaHere
Jones , gsp, khabib , Jose Aldo , Anderson Silva final answer
mighty mouse jose aldo
Jones gsp silva DJ DC.
There's two categories that everyone is getting twisted right now. Are we talking about the "greatest" or "most dominant"... Jon Jones can be considered #1 in both categories. GSP is one of the greatest bright behind Jones, Khabib is number two in the most dominant category behind Jones.
Khabib was a great fighter but I don’t put him on the top of anything, GSP had more title defenses than Khabib had fights in the UFC
@@cryptocaesar8972 Nobody beat Khabib. And I believe he had 13 UFC fights and 3 title defenses. Are you saying he didn't beat any tough fighters during that run ?? And are you saying he lost numerous rounds during all those fights ?? Like I said... When it comes to "dominant" fighters he's somewhere near the top of that list.
@@marcusjones1432 Nobody beat Khabib but he also wasn’t in the UFC doing what everyone else was doing as long as everyone else either. What I meant to say is that GSP all together had 13 title fight wins counting his matches to regain the belt and taking the middleweight belt plus interim belt. In that roster he fought every style of opponent, the best grapplers, the best strikers, and everything in between. When you’re champ you have a target on your back, it’s far more impressive to have a run as champ rather than be a random on a win streak. Styles also make match ups, khabib ended up in a top heavy division of strikers, Conor, Dustin, Gaetje, all his defenses, they’re all strikers, that’s why people wanted to see Tony so badly when they were in their primes. We never really got to see him against an array of elite different styles, he also never went up in weight and tested himself against bigger opponents like GSP did, like Jones is doing, like Mighty Mouse and Anderson Silva and Nunes did. He really has no accolades to his name other undefeated which he had way less fights than all the people above in the UFC so not the most impressive, and won most of his rounds, except once he became champ he lost a round to Conor and he lost a round to Gaetje. It’s not easy to keep such accolades as champ.
Mighty Mouse come on
DC lost to Stipe. TWICE.
Fedor
Steroid users get no recognition.
Lol. Guys like Usman Izzy and many current fighters are finding a way to evade USADA still. You think GSP was clean? Such ignorance.
@@johnylalrina1451 Anderson Silva got caught too but somehow he made the list!
Steroids!! Steroids!! Once he got busted he struggled in every fight after that. No where as dominant as he was before. Sorry steroid cheats can’t be consider the GOAT
Jon Jones is the greatest Fighter ever. GSP is the greatest Champion ever
Oh shut up Michael
Mighty mouse
Listen. He said I can't put Jon Jones. Gsp, silva, both got caught with stuff too so that's pure hipocritical judgement
1)Khabib because not only is he undefeated, he is the best role model fighter.
2)john Jones
3)GSP
4)Anderson Silva
Number one is a lame excuse. Plus count only his UFC fights. Not the goat
Khabib didn’t do enough, could’ve been the goat but not enough of a resume . If Jon jones is dq’d than so should be Anderson . Gsp, Bones , Silva, khabib, fedor.
Nah khabib is top ten, not top 5, there’s plenty of fighters that have a better resume then him, stop looking at that record, I bet you can only name 9 top level fighters he fought out of the 19 cans he crushed, and sorry to tell ya, the he never fought a wrestler or well rounded opponent, cause most of them were in the weight class above him, it’s okay he retired cause he would’ve got rag dolled by Colby, Tyrone, Gilbert burns, & usman.😂😂😂😂😂
Jon Jones is NOT the “most dominant MMA Fighter of all time”.
And Imho, to say that he is-is absurd.
The most dominant fighter of all time IS *Khabib Nurmagomedov.*
Not only is that virtually indisputable-But, to say that _Jon Jones_ was more dominant than Khabib… that’s total insanity.
First, let’s talk about when Jones was in his prime and how he did against his toughest opponents:
Was he dominant against Gus?
Was he dominant against DC?
Both of those fights were extremely close/competitive.
And notice that I’m not even mentioning the fight against Reyes (which he clearly lost), or the fight against Santos (which he also might’ve lost). I’m not even using those examples because they were later in his career, when he wasn’t at his best.
He had dominant performances against Shogun, Rampage, and Evans; He had good/fairly dominant performances against Vitor (apart from the armbar he got caught in), Glover, and Machida (apart from the first round); And he had _”non-dominant/extremely difficult_ fights against Gus and DC-The two best opponents he fought.
Now, let’s talk about Khabib and how he did against _his_ toughest opponents:
Dominantly beat and submitted Poirier.
Dominantly beat and submitted Gaethje.
Dominantly beat and submitted Conor.
Dominantly beat Dos Anjos for the entire fight.
Dominantly beat Barboza for the entire fight.
Dominantly beat and submitted Johnson.
So… having two extremely competitive fights, a few dominant fights, and a few mildly dominant fights - vs. - never having a single close fight, and completely dominating every fight, and finishing most of them…
Which of those resumes is more dominant:
Jones’s or Khabib’s?
Jones fought the best competition in the world for a decade. 15 titles. girly man Khabib retired after defense number 3. title for title, Jones was just as dominant at defense number 3, then went on to win another 10+ titles. what would have happened had Khabib tried to go for 10 more? he would have breezed through all of them? doubt it.
@@C_G33 “Jones fought the best competition in the world for over a decade”;
No. Jones fought _most_ of the best _Light Heavyweights_ that were _ranked in the top 10_ at the time - For _less than_ a decade.
Being a dominant Champ at Light Heavyweight _does not mean_ that you are better than a #6 Bantamweight that has been dominated by everyone ranked ahead of him.
If a #6 Bantamweight beats #7-10, and those guys are better than the top Light-Heavy contenders - Then, that #6 Bantamweight is a better Fighter than that Light-Heavyweight Champ.
The “top contenders” that Jones fought were _nowhere_ near as good as the contenders at 125-170 lbs.
Rampage, St. Preux, Sonnen, Teixeira, Smith, Santos, Reyes, etc. etc…
If those guys would’ve been smaller and fought at 125-170 lbs. rather than 205-they wouldn’t have even been contenders, let alone-getting title shots. They were _nowhere near_ the level of guys like Aldo, Dillashaw, DJ, Poirier, Holloway, Edgar, Conor, Cejudo, Cruz; and they were nowhere near the level of guys that were at Lightweight while Khabib was in the division.
Next - Khabib was MUCH more dominant than Jones.
Jones 100% lost to Reyes, he probably lost to Santos, he had an absolutely razor thin fight against Gus, and he had a very close fight against DC;
Khabib lost, at MOST-two _rounds._
_Two _*_losses_*_ + two close fights_
vs.
_Two close _*_rounds_*_ …_
Khabib was _much more dominant,_ in a _much better division._
@@CipherSerpico Khabib fought 4 guys. Get over it, your boy sucks.
@@C_G33 That’s the comment people make when they realize that they don’t actually know what they’re talking about.
@@CipherSerpico nah. you're just going on big rants making points i'm not in agreement with, and instead of going on one of my own, i kept it short, sweet, and to the basic facts. but carry on.
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Fedor Emialankeo is the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
He beat nobody’s
John Jones didn’t elbow anyone in the face, he was dequeued for elbows to the back of the head
Wrong and wtf is "dequeued".
he was DQ'd for 12-6 elbows to Matt Hamils face.
We’re you adamant that you were right?
Can we agree Chandler didn't pick kabib because of little beef he has with Makhachev. Kabib is GOAT for me! BTW khabib never lost a round, let alone a fight. Hence Khabib and Jon Jones at the GOAT. Although the George is likely individual he list more than one fight!
😂
Khabib is barely top 10 and Islam failed a drug test so he will never be the goat
@@gungaginga9772 like seriously he made fight look easy against fighter like dustin,connor,justin like the guy never even go down on his knee from a punch justin hit him hard several time the guy was standing straight didn't even finch from those hits like bro cmon khabib have 29-0 record for nothing never lost a round have been dominating other fighter like fighters are his harem bitches
@@nothing276 15 of those 29 wins were against guys with negative records, stop bringing it up like it’s a massive achievement
Khabib was absolute shit. Never fought anyone of substance and never went to Welterweight cause the guys there would have smashed him.
Jones is out of the GOAT talk since testing positive for cheating. 🤷🏽♂️ Sorry, not sorry
Cry more, everyone on Mount Rushmore of mma took steroids.
@@Wowvod gsp? You're the one crying I'm kicking as facts you get busted for steroids you're out of the goat running sorry not sorry shed your tears.
DC also had 7000 ng/dl of testosterone in his 2nd fight with Jon jones. Nobody talked about because Jon was caught with turinabol, but it was clear that DC was using something to alter his hormones as well it’s just he didn’t directly pop for anything.
@@Wowvod Correct
Silva took peds for who knows how long
His list sucks if he has Khabib as the 2nd greatest fighter of all time....
Prime shogun beat overreem twice so he didn’t fight the same fighter as he was in pride
screw that Conor is the pound for pound greatest fighter of all times
Jones is the Goat steroids or not, every casuals can keep crying, the Mount Rushmore of mma has a sh*t ton of legends that were on the sauce.🤣🤣🤣🤣
If he takes Jon out for failing drugs tests Anderson Should be out also
Khabib not even top ten IMO! There are easily ten champs who have held the belt longer, better, and with more conviction then Khabib has!
Mighty Mouse
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