enjoyed the comparison, this is the first video when I searched for it. I think it's common that good videos in FPV community isn't getting enough praises. Just because the community is still small. But you are doing a very good job, keep it up! and thank you!
Wow, this is nice. Not sure if it's a something that can be adjusted or what, but the GoPro seems better at capturing distant detail (the sky) and the Beta does a better job with what's right in front of you. Beta is more vibrant and captures better close up. Beta SMO would be my choice based on footage here. Thanks for awesome comparison!
I disagree. The gopro would most likely be the better choice. He never said which gopro he was using, and he didn't use the pro features that could grade the video afterwards. Most likely, this is an apples to oranges comparison that doesn't do justice to the gopro's quality.
A BIG design flaw with the SMO 4k is the opening in the case that allows the back of the power plug to be exposed. If your power wir egets jerked back by a branch, it will rip the power plug off the PCB and ruin the camera. A new case needs to be designed to cover the back of the power plug to a branch will only break the power wires and not tear the plug off the board. The SMO is supposedly designed for FPV quads but they seem to have forgotten that crashing is part of FPV. I am going to design a piece that clamps onto the side of the camera case that shields the wires and power connector from anything you might run into. I may also try to draw the case back in CAD and fill in that empty section that is the problem.
Very helpful. Subbed! I’d love to see a “bench analysis” of this footage. The most obvious differences were exposure and color, with the SMO exposing much farther the right. Are the highlights recoverable? A test with ND filters and fixed ISO would also be really valuable. Many thanks!!
I powered the SMO from the VBAT pad on my flight controller, but thought I'd like to put the camera on other quads, so I took that off and bought balance plug extensions and cut one up and made an adapter like you have. My SMO came with crappy solid wire with plastic insulation for the power plugs so I bought an SH1.0 connector kit that has silicone stranded wire and made a better power plug. I also bought the Matek 5v-9v micro BEC because I didn't like the loud pop sound when I'd plug unto the balance plug to power the camera. I also put a 35v 470uf capacitor on the BEC.
Quick question, how do you know which house is yours? Every single one looks identical like they were stamped out with a cookie cutter. Reminds me of that song from the show "weeds" little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky, and they all looked just the same. I wouldn't know which house to land in front of.
I look for the biggest one and land 🤣😂 From the back of the houses they are all fairly plain, the fronts are all pretty different. Welcome to suburban America!
Thanks for the video. Been looking at an actual comparison between the GoPro, Insta 360 SMO and you even ad the DJI DVR as a bonus!! I really like the pic quality of the SMO but is a bit too bright sometimes. Have you done any filter testing to get it to look less bright? I also own a Titan DC. 😉
I need to get some lower ND filters the ND16 it came with would have been too much for the time of day I was shooting. ND8 would probably have been ideal. Check our latest video of the SMO 4K on the Flywoo HEXplorer.
That is correct, the GPS is built into the same board that the record button is on, it plugs into the top ribbon cable port on the right, just above the 2 ports for the touchscreen. You could further take apart the GoPro to get the GPS Board / Record button out but then you would have a loose board stuck to the Naked GoPro case. Another easy mod for the Naked GoPro is keeping the front screen.
Sure, the files are quite large 6GB and 7GB each but you can download them at these links (be sure to click the download button): SMO 4K Footage: 1drv.ms/v/s!An1mQ0GJL9wfx1GucfCWscG2xtDw?e=o1zAX4 Naked GoPro (Hero 6 Black) Footage: 1drv.ms/v/s!An1mQ0GJL9wfx1Ax3APq2yHBgiQ1?e=UIHhDB
thanks, nice comparison. just started decasing my gopro7. much easier to remove that front rubber if you let it record in max resolution/framerate. camera gets really hot and the glue really soft. btw. i think it is smo (as smol - small) and not S.M.O.
Great tip! I used a heat gun, heating it from the inside like that would probably work better. When this video was recorded the camera was just released, all the other reviewers were calling it the S.M.O. 4K so I just went with it.
For three days I have been suffering with naked, I rebuilt my go pro 6 in naked. I have the same drone. But after the flights, all the videos are with jelly. the camera is fixed as rigidly as yours. The PID and filter settings did not help, I changed the propellers, the drone was whole without falling. This camera performed well on cinewhoop, no problem. Could you please send your PIDs from DC5?
Oh no! Expensive mistake :( The Peanut is a good camera, just be aware it has limitations with built-in memory and battery. I did a video comparing it to the DJI Action 2 here: ruclips.net/video/QKMHhBNFOyQ/видео.html I also came up with a no soldering power solution for the Peanut here: ruclips.net/video/Zcy3cJEB8ZE/видео.html The GEPRC Naked Hero 8 is still my favorite, even though it is very fragile.
That DJI Air Unit is amazing. I guess I know what I'm blowing half of my stimulus on... DJI goggles and an Air unit, and maybe a Caddex digital system.
Hey Ryan, I was trying to do a similar comparison (with a Naked GP8) last week. However, the footage from the SMO 4k with Flowstate stabilization enabled in the desktop app had massive jello. Did you face this as well? Do you need to use the ND filter with it to eliminate that? Not sure what I am doing incorrectly. Its mounted on a Megabee V2 whoop.
I did not use an ND filter for this video, I did experience jello on another 5in drone though, not sure if it's due to vibrations, I wasn't using the ND filter for that flight either though.
@@AerialPixel No sweat! Fair enough. I couldn't find the holder that supports two cams on the site though? Is that your design or a common holder design?
That was our design, made to the right width to keep the cameras as close together as possible, you can probably find similar items though on Amazon, they just get a little bulky.
I fly the DJI digital system at 700w using the iFlight Crystal antenna system (patch and stubby's). You can purchase the iFlight Crystal patch antenna here: amzn.to/3p57p1n and the stubby's here: amzn.to/3pgQOIc When switching to this system my range increased significantly.
SMO looked much better. No mention of GoPro screwing up their app, making it impossible to alter settings in protune from the app now, which directly affects Naked GoPro owners.
If you are on Android just install version 7.3.1, problem solved, you can download it here: mobile.softpedia.com/apk/capture/7.3.1/ I agree it was stupid of GoPro to remove it and force their users back to the previous version of the app.
@@AerialPixel - I stopped the Auto-Updates quick enough to no cop the latest. GoPro needs to do an app that Only does camera control, no editing, memories, subscriptions, just straight up camera control and monitoring.
For professional video, GoPro is the only option. In addition to lack of dynamic range, these other camera manufacturers always add sharpening, contrast, saturation, etc. to the image to make up for the inferior quality. Can't put lipstick on a pig and call it pretty.
Am I only one who constantly has issues with naked gopro? Its not clear when its recording. That green LED is lagging all the time. App does not working correctly and disconnect all the time says that its low powered. When i finanally got it working after return go pro is turned off.
You most likely aren't supplying enough power to the naked GoPro. If you soldered to a 5V pad on your FC this will not be enough voltage, you need 6v to 27v input to properly power it. If you don't have a 9V pad on your FC solder the Red and Black wires directly to the pads your battery lead connect to on the ESC board or a VBAT pad on your FC.
That's definitely odd then. Only issue I've ever had with the Naked GoPro is when I had a lose ground wire connection, resoldered it and it has been fine since. Maybe your BEC board you get from BetaFPV is bad or not seated all the way onto the GoPro board?
@@AerialPixel Yea, feels like only i have that kind of issue. I have to try with other bec borad cuz gopro by itself working fine. As far as I understood when you connect to gopro via app it doesn't tell you that "battery is low", right?
It was late in the evening filming at 60fps so the camera had to raise the ISO which introduces film grain. In darker conditions I recommend filming at 30fps instead. Filming at a lower frame rate allows more light in which equals lower ISO and less film grain.
@@alexehilary The quality is very similar, Since the SMO 4K is just a striped down Insta360 One R you may want to check other channels for reviews specifically on the One R. As you probably noticed in my video the SMO 4k tends to overexpose and the GoPro tends to underexpose. I think the GoPro handles lighting changes better than the SMO 4K, but that is just my personal opinion.
High, first of all thanks for the job you've done. But I have some criticism. The video looks like a plain commercial of SMO 4k. Because, you did not set the same color/brightness settings and GoPro looks dull. This is not true in reality, you just should properly set it up. Second, video from SMO looks stabilized, because in AIR unit and GoPro you have the same oscillations, but not a hint on SMO. This is possible only if SMO has optical stab which always work. Otherwise SMO must have the same oscillations. Also it would be better if you don't do split screen, but show full video feed side by side, because it is not possible to compare the same objects on two shots
Settings were the default settings for both cameras, they weren't "properly setup" because you get into a lot of personal bias when doing that, hence default settings, yes there is room for improvement by tweaking the settings on both. The footage for both cameras was stabilized using their own software (Insta360 Studio for the SMO 4K and ReelSteady for GoPro) as the raw footage on both isn't stabilized. You get better results using the desktop software that syncs with the Gyro data. I actually prefer the Naked GoPro over the SMO 4K in most aspects, it handles exposure changes much better, you don't get weird artifacts in the trees, the sky and background are exposed much better too. There are other places where the SMO 4K shines, the foreground tends to be exposed better where sky and background are sometimes blown out. If you want to pixel peep both of the full files the links are in the description.
Great comparison, although I think you deliberately doing the kind of neighborhood flying which get more and more part of the world reject us by the law... Do you know everyone in that neighborhood and they're all happy with you doing it ?
The people on my street know me as the drone guy, they don't mind, many times they will come out and watch. However they don't regulate the Airspace anyway, just don't fly over people or moving vehicles, don't spy on people and don't be a nuisance. The area I fly most behind the houses is owned by our HOA and is common space for the neighborhood.
@@AerialPixel lucky to have such neighborhood :) in the UK the news papers and social medias plus gov agencies are making us think people in all places are against this but apparently you leave in a dream place... :) Cheers happy flying
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enjoyed the comparison, this is the first video when I searched for it.
I think it's common that good videos in FPV community isn't getting enough praises. Just because the community is still small.
But you are doing a very good job, keep it up! and thank you!
Wow, this is nice. Not sure if it's a something that can be adjusted or what, but the GoPro seems better at capturing distant detail (the sky) and the Beta does a better job with what's right in front of you. Beta is more vibrant and captures better close up. Beta SMO would be my choice based on footage here. Thanks for awesome comparison!
I disagree. The gopro would most likely be the better choice. He never said which gopro he was using, and he didn't use the pro features that could grade the video afterwards. Most likely, this is an apples to oranges comparison that doesn't do justice to the gopro's quality.
A BIG design flaw with the SMO 4k is the opening in the case that allows the back of the power plug to be exposed. If your power wir egets jerked back by a branch, it will rip the power plug off the PCB and ruin the camera. A new case needs to be designed to cover the back of the power plug to a branch will only break the power wires and not tear the plug off the board. The SMO is supposedly designed for FPV quads but they seem to have forgotten that crashing is part of FPV. I am going to design a piece that clamps onto the side of the camera case that shields the wires and power connector from anything you might run into. I may also try to draw the case back in CAD and fill in that empty section that is the problem.
Very helpful. Subbed! I’d love to see a “bench analysis” of this footage. The most obvious differences were exposure and color, with the SMO exposing much farther the right. Are the highlights recoverable? A test with ND filters and fixed ISO would also be really valuable. Many thanks!!
I powered the SMO from the VBAT pad on my flight controller, but thought I'd like to put the camera on other quads, so I took that off and bought balance plug extensions and cut one up and made an adapter like you have. My SMO came with crappy solid wire with plastic insulation for the power plugs so I bought an SH1.0 connector kit that has silicone stranded wire and made a better power plug. I also bought the Matek 5v-9v micro BEC because I didn't like the loud pop sound when I'd plug unto the balance plug to power the camera. I also put a 35v 470uf capacitor on the BEC.
Good Idea adding the BEC + Cap. I'll have to give that a go too.
Quick question, how do you know which house is yours? Every single one looks identical like they were stamped out with a cookie cutter. Reminds me of that song from the show "weeds" little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky, and they all looked just the same. I wouldn't know which house to land in front of.
I look for the biggest one and land 🤣😂
From the back of the houses they are all fairly plain, the fronts are all pretty different. Welcome to suburban America!
Thanks for the video. Been looking at an actual comparison between the GoPro, Insta 360 SMO and you even ad the DJI DVR as a bonus!! I really like the pic quality of the SMO but is a bit too bright sometimes. Have you done any filter testing to get it to look less bright? I also own a Titan DC. 😉
I need to get some lower ND filters the ND16 it came with would have been too much for the time of day I was shooting. ND8 would probably have been ideal. Check our latest video of the SMO 4K on the Flywoo HEXplorer.
I think you missed an awesome feature with the SMO... The ability to start/stop recording on a radio switch via a UART on the FC.
Yes, both cameras offer that functionality.
I am assuming that once you strip the gopro you loose the GPS antenna? and the geotagging capability?
That is correct, the GPS is built into the same board that the record button is on, it plugs into the top ribbon cable port on the right, just above the 2 ports for the touchscreen. You could further take apart the GoPro to get the GPS Board / Record button out but then you would have a loose board stuck to the Naked GoPro case. Another easy mod for the Naked GoPro is keeping the front screen.
Is the camera angle different on both? Also I see the SMO4K crops a lot.
Camera angle was set the same, the SMO 4K just crops in quite a bit more.
thx for the comparison, can we download the raw video of both cameras , thx
Sure, the files are quite large 6GB and 7GB each but you can download them at these links (be sure to click the download button):
SMO 4K Footage: 1drv.ms/v/s!An1mQ0GJL9wfx1GucfCWscG2xtDw?e=o1zAX4
Naked GoPro (Hero 6 Black) Footage: 1drv.ms/v/s!An1mQ0GJL9wfx1Ax3APq2yHBgiQ1?e=UIHhDB
@@AerialPixel thx ,, really appreciate it
Thanks for this!
Great reviews, keep the good work 🤜🤛
Thanks for this review!
Very interesting. Could you please do the ready made naked GoPro 8 by GepRC?
I have reached out to GepRC for a test unit, stay tuned.
thanks, nice comparison. just started decasing my gopro7. much easier to remove that front rubber if you let it record in max resolution/framerate. camera gets really hot and the glue really soft.
btw. i think it is smo (as smol - small) and not S.M.O.
Great tip! I used a heat gun, heating it from the inside like that would probably work better.
When this video was recorded the camera was just released, all the other reviewers were calling it the S.M.O. 4K so I just went with it.
obviously SMO, BTW which FPV you use? 95X V3 or V2??!
I have the 95x V1 and V2, I then bought the V3 frame and moved all the electronics over from the V2 and installed the 5 bladed props.
Hi good video! Do you by any chance have the stl for the naked gopro?
Thank you! We don't give out our design files, but I'm sure there are plenty on Thingiverse.com
Which city/place is this.. So nice and homely
Franklin Ohio USA
Like the intro
For three days I have been suffering with naked, I rebuilt my go pro 6 in naked. I have the same drone. But after the flights, all the videos are with jelly. the camera is fixed as rigidly as yours. The PID and filter settings did not help, I changed the propellers, the drone was whole without falling. This camera performed well on cinewhoop, no problem. Could you please send your PIDs from DC5?
ruclips.net/video/e3bb5QEZLFE/видео.html
My current PIDs for the my DC5 are here: u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ2CNsXZ3A2npVAXrRzTWOFtQQfdPS7p758y
That is a lot of Jello, how are you mounting it?
@@AerialPixel hard mount, I can show it on Instagram. I really hope for your help, because I have run out of solutions to the problem.
@@AerialPixel Thanks, can I still have a screenshot with the filters? I will fly with your PIDs tomorrow
why are they still flat wind breaks? can we go back to cubic cams?
Bc the board is shaped that way from the GoPro. Now the Other is factory made . Maybe they could of made the cube form factor
Does geprc fix the naked GoPro? Just messed
Mine up today:(. Maybe get the cdaxx peanut?
Oh no! Expensive mistake :( The Peanut is a good camera, just be aware it has limitations with built-in memory and battery. I did a video comparing it to the DJI Action 2 here: ruclips.net/video/QKMHhBNFOyQ/видео.html
I also came up with a no soldering power solution for the Peanut here: ruclips.net/video/Zcy3cJEB8ZE/видео.html
The GEPRC Naked Hero 8 is still my favorite, even though it is very fragile.
That DJI Air Unit is amazing. I guess I know what I'm blowing half of my stimulus on... DJI goggles and an Air unit, and maybe a Caddex digital system.
Yes it is, and that's why all my analog equipment is just gathering dust now :(
Gopro look better)) why you used different settings?( exp, iso)
Both cameras were set to automatic settings. That's how they shoot right out of the box. GoPro tends to underexpose the SMO 4K tends to overexpose.
Sadly enought the gopro footage is so much better. The concept of the SMO4K is great, the Gopro looks so much more cinematic/fluid
Agreed, the GoPro also has a wider field-of-view which really helps to get more of the sky in view (and everything else too).
Why the hake you don’t have more subs.. I’m you sub and like your content. FYI: I’m Mexican-Chinese 👍🏼
Hey Ryan, I was trying to do a similar comparison (with a Naked GP8) last week. However, the footage from the SMO 4k with Flowstate stabilization enabled in the desktop app had massive jello. Did you face this as well? Do you need to use the ND filter with it to eliminate that? Not sure what I am doing incorrectly. Its mounted on a Megabee V2 whoop.
I did not use an ND filter for this video, I did experience jello on another 5in drone though, not sure if it's due to vibrations, I wasn't using the ND filter for that flight either though.
@@AerialPixel Got it! Thanks, Ryan. Subbed. Can you link me to the source file of the mount you have used in this video?
I'm sorry, we don't release our design files. You can purchase the part on our website here though: bit.ly/djifpvmount
@@AerialPixel No sweat! Fair enough. I couldn't find the holder that supports two cams on the site though? Is that your design or a common holder design?
That was our design, made to the right width to keep the cameras as close together as possible, you can probably find similar items though on Amazon, they just get a little bulky.
Can we put the SMO 4K ND filter on naked gopro? Are they same size?
Yes, the BetaFPV V2 naked GoPro case and the SMO 4K filter size is identical.
What a gopro version u use ?
Hero 6 Black
Do both still have working microphones?
The SMO 4K does.
How the heck did you get that range? I would NEVER try flying from my porch because my video cuts out when I fly too far behind myself
I fly the DJI digital system at 700w using the iFlight Crystal antenna system (patch and stubby's). You can purchase the iFlight Crystal patch antenna here: amzn.to/3p57p1n and the stubby's here: amzn.to/3pgQOIc When switching to this system my range increased significantly.
Where can one buy that tpu mount for naked GoPro?
You can get the Naked GoPro mount from our website here: bit.ly/nakedgopro
Which gopro was used?
This was a striped down Hero 6 Black.
SMO looked much better.
No mention of GoPro screwing up their app, making it impossible to alter settings in protune from the app now, which directly affects Naked GoPro owners.
If you are on Android just install version 7.3.1, problem solved, you can download it here: mobile.softpedia.com/apk/capture/7.3.1/
I agree it was stupid of GoPro to remove it and force their users back to the previous version of the app.
@@AerialPixel - I stopped the Auto-Updates quick enough to no cop the latest.
GoPro needs to do an app that Only does camera control, no editing, memories, subscriptions, just straight up camera control and monitoring.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Agreed!
For professional video, GoPro is the only option. In addition to lack of dynamic range, these other camera manufacturers always add sharpening, contrast, saturation, etc. to the image to make up for the inferior quality. Can't put lipstick on a pig and call it pretty.
I agree, my current favorites are the Hero 10 Bones and Naked Hero 9, I did a video on the Naked Hero 9 here: ruclips.net/video/21CzkGEHwUw/видео.html
Whats name back sound music?
Parzival by William Rosati, it's available on the RUclips music library.
Am I only one who constantly has issues with naked gopro? Its not clear when its recording. That green LED is lagging all the time. App does not working correctly and disconnect all the time says that its low powered. When i finanally got it working after return go pro is turned off.
You most likely aren't supplying enough power to the naked GoPro. If you soldered to a 5V pad on your FC this will not be enough voltage, you need 6v to 27v input to properly power it. If you don't have a 9V pad on your FC solder the Red and Black wires directly to the pads your battery lead connect to on the ESC board or a VBAT pad on your FC.
@@AerialPixel That is not true. I used direct connection from beta bec board to 4s lipo with same result.
That's definitely odd then. Only issue I've ever had with the Naked GoPro is when I had a lose ground wire connection, resoldered it and it has been fine since. Maybe your BEC board you get from BetaFPV is bad or not seated all the way onto the GoPro board?
@@AerialPixel Yea, feels like only i have that kind of issue. I have to try with other bec borad cuz gopro by itself working fine. As far as I understood when you connect to gopro via app it doesn't tell you that "battery is low", right?
If I remember correctly it has a RED BATTERY SYMBOL with a SLASH through it, meaning the battery isn't present, but not a battery low error.
hi !i downloaded the original files.it seems that the smo4k, has noise in the video.why?
It was late in the evening filming at 60fps so the camera had to raise the ISO which introduces film grain. In darker conditions I recommend filming at 30fps instead. Filming at a lower frame rate allows more light in which equals lower ISO and less film grain.
@@AerialPixel so on this aspect the gopro is superior(?)
@@alexehilary Yes in my opinion the GoPro does better in lower light.
@@AerialPixel for the rest, for example shooting a video before sunset, are they the same?
@@alexehilary The quality is very similar, Since the SMO 4K is just a striped down Insta360 One R you may want to check other channels for reviews specifically on the One R. As you probably noticed in my video the SMO 4k tends to overexpose and the GoPro tends to underexpose. I think the GoPro handles lighting changes better than the SMO 4K, but that is just my personal opinion.
High, first of all thanks for the job you've done. But I have some criticism. The video looks like a plain commercial of SMO 4k. Because, you did not set the same color/brightness settings and GoPro looks dull. This is not true in reality, you just should properly set it up. Second, video from SMO looks stabilized, because in AIR unit and GoPro you have the same oscillations, but not a hint on SMO. This is possible only if SMO has optical stab which always work. Otherwise SMO must have the same oscillations. Also it would be better if you don't do split screen, but show full video feed side by side, because it is not possible to compare the same objects on two shots
Settings were the default settings for both cameras, they weren't "properly setup" because you get into a lot of personal bias when doing that, hence default settings, yes there is room for improvement by tweaking the settings on both. The footage for both cameras was stabilized using their own software (Insta360 Studio for the SMO 4K and ReelSteady for GoPro) as the raw footage on both isn't stabilized. You get better results using the desktop software that syncs with the Gyro data. I actually prefer the Naked GoPro over the SMO 4K in most aspects, it handles exposure changes much better, you don't get weird artifacts in the trees, the sky and background are exposed much better too. There are other places where the SMO 4K shines, the foreground tends to be exposed better where sky and background are sometimes blown out. If you want to pixel peep both of the full files the links are in the description.
@@AerialPixel agree with overall exposure, i like how gopro handles it
I agree 100% it's advertisement for Insta Smo 4k.
Hi, so didi u use reelsteady go or the built in stabilization?
Reelsteady was used on the Naked GoPro and Insta360 Studio on the SMO 4K.
Great comparison, although I think you deliberately doing the kind of neighborhood flying which get more and more part of the world reject us by the law... Do you know everyone in that neighborhood and they're all happy with you doing it ?
The people on my street know me as the drone guy, they don't mind, many times they will come out and watch.
However they don't regulate the Airspace anyway, just don't fly over people or moving vehicles, don't spy on people and don't be a nuisance. The area I fly most behind the houses is owned by our HOA and is common space for the neighborhood.
@@AerialPixel lucky to have such neighborhood :) in the UK the news papers and social medias plus gov agencies are making us think people in all places are against this but apparently you leave in a dream place... :) Cheers happy flying
@@MattxFr That's a shame :( It's not bad at all in most parts of the US now that drones have become commonplace.
SMO Quality is very bad... Seems like very cheap and bad quality glass... Plus dynamic range is like a joke..
Quality is quite a bit better now with the latest firmware update. I will probably be doing another video comparison.