The fov makes a huge difference. Thank u for that side by side… I’ve always considered resolution as the difference. I am in the market for my first actioncam.
The thumb definitely has a more pink hue while the GoPro has a blueish hue. Also has a slightly more narrow FOV than the GoPro. I think both could ultimately be color corrected to look very similar though.
@@TRONCATFPV I picked it from the slight stutters - as if the stabilisation didn't quite work as well on the thumb compared to the gopro. Also from the "flat colour" being a bit less flat on the thumb (i.e. it was more contrasty).
I crashed my regular runcam thumb and was glad to learn it was repairable, and you can even (re)adjust the focus, even though they kinda try to glue it in place. Being prone to crashes is another reason to go with this as a cheaper alternative to GoPros.
Very good to know! I haven’t crashed it yet but it’s good to know you can adjust those minor things if you need to. For the price I don’t think this can be beat.
repairable how? my first one just stopped working second flight...runcam wanted $80usd plus postage to repair (was $76 new!). Bought another....had a very light crash and dead.
@@LostCloudx4 the lens is glued over the sensor, mine had popped off, I just glued it back in place and it worked actually did this a second time but the second time it had dirt on the inside of the lens. I have since had another crash and it broke the sd card holder, so now it is toast.
Wow. Just wow. I just got mine in the mail yesterday, I got the thumb pro w, with the wider FOV. I have a naked hero6, and it's been a journey to keep that thing working. Been through 4 BEC boards, printing so many anti jello mounts for it. I've got 3 different mounts printing at my house right now for the thumb. One for my toothpick 3s build, 1 for my 450g AUW 5" beast, and one for the geprc cinelog 25. I did not guess the correct camera based on footage. I saw jello in the left one in the very beginning of the flight before it went through the door and thought that had to be the runcam. Super impressed.
I love this little camera. In fact I think it is as good or better than my Hero 9 especially indoors. Just a tip though...the camera lens pops off pretty easy in a crash so I put a piece of scotch tape around edge to keep it locked on.
Great comparison. For the price point the Runcam4K dominates the naked gopro. The only thing I noticed was some jitters with the Runcam. I wonder if you can fix that with some type of rolling shutter filter in post.
@@TRONCATFPV i might be wrong, but i realize runcam's gyro data's timing isn't uniform trough out a video, therefore we need more sync points on gyroflow. Those vibrations while going up the stairs, that immediately confirmed me which one was the runcam, that's what slight gyro data offset looked to me. Anyways man, that was some incredible slow controlled flight, even as a fpv pilot, you made me wonder if you shot the video handheld until you flew of the window...
Man, you nearly convinced me to go for the RunCam Thumb Pro. It ticks all the right boxes for me and GoPro form factor itself was a deterrent for me to put it on my 5inch fpv drone.
Good review. The only question I have is about when you said the ND filter adds motion blur. I've read that ND filters are like sunglasses for camera lenses and what creates motion blur is the relationship between frame rate and shutter speed. Please clarify. Thanks.
I am not familiar with either camera, but am looking to buy hence my watching videos like this. I am only at the 8 minute mark of the video and I like both of these, except I prefer the image on the right, strictly because the white balance is warmer. This should be a minor tweak, so lemme ask do either of these have a white balance setting that could have been adjust prior to shooting? Addendum: I found my answer later in the video. Yeah the white balance can be adjusted in the settings. I saw no difference in quality of videos so I want a runcam thumb pro, since it is a fraction of the price.
I love the thumb pro when there;s enough light, but in low light conditions it really struggles and is no match for the gopro. I fly a lot indoors and found the thumb pro lacking a lot of the times due to low light
Great video! I found your channel searching for Cinelog 25 real estate shots. Subbed! Looking to build/buy something to enter the real estate space as a good friend is an agent. I already have a thumb pro. This proves to me that I don't need to worry about tearing apart a GoPro anymore, I just need to dial in my settings and get a better mount setup, as I'm still getting too much jello with the thumb pro vs my hero 8.
Welcome to the channel! I have lots of real estate FPV series videos planned for the future 👍 And yea definitely need solid vibration dampening for the thumb pro, the gyro seems more sensitive than a GoPro
Hello. Put mine for sale brand new cause I got the insta go 2 used in a good price. After watching this video i am thinking to keep her as an alternative,spare or even for a rear mount set-up!!
It’s tough to tell in spots! The coloring is ever so slightly different between the two but with some color correction I think they’d look very similar.
I love your Videos. Appreciate the hard work. I am also thinking of getting into real estate indoor videos - will you recommend the avata with googles 2 or the geprc 25 or 35 had with googles v2?
I'm probably going to have an update video coming out within the next couple weeks on the Avata. I continuously find myself not using my Avata for numerous reasons. The latest is the remote ID update they released. Not only that but video quality isn't even close to what you can get out of a GoPro. Personally, I would go with a GEPRC cinewhoop. For indoor use, the cinelog25 or cinebot30 will work much better than the avata 👍
Is it possible to mod a cam like this for bracketed stills, or otherwise known as Auto Exposure Bracketing, for HDR photography while mounted on an FPV drone?
I bet it was 16-17g with the micro sd card inside. Great video as always man! I love my thumb too. I’ve got it on a tiny whoop and as a rear view camera on a 5”
Hey man great video, I just made one as well and thought you could not preview the settings remotely, but you can. I am making a video about it in the next couple of days.
The image is strikingly close to the GP8. I've been testing the thumb pro out with more vibration dampening and the image is even better than what I included in this video!
Hey, I have been flying a runcam thumb pro for a few months now based on reviews like this. Flying side by side with my naked Hero 8, my Hero 8 is a million billion times better image quality, better stabilization, and easier to get good results in post production. My use case has been outdoors freestyle. I have really wanted it to work for me and have tried everything imaginable. Normal modes crop too much and gyro flow crops even more, and xview modes are fish eye warped, and correcting it in post is extra work and subpar results. Stabilization I cannot get right, even after months of effort and many trials. And the image quality is simply no comparison. Clarity, dynamic range, and lens effects are so much nicer on the Hero 8. Seeing reviews like this has made me feel like I don't know who or what to believe anymore. Not worth the trouble for me. I need a real camera. Too many awkward compromises makes it unusable in most circumstances.
how did you start recording on the thumb pro if you didnt have to green and hite cables wired in? im tempted to get one of these for emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle and this has now made me want to get one!
The white and green wires are only for remote recording (using a switch on your controller) Personally, I prefer to click the button so I can see that it’s actually recording rather than a switch on my controller. I had this function set up on naked GoPro setups but ran into issues where it wouldn’t actually be recording lol.
@@Kieran-fj4bq This is a great question and isn't something that I thought about when making the video. To test this I just plugged the camera into a lipo and let it just sit on my desk. So not a lot of airflow. The camera got noticeably warm around 5 minutes in but never shut down or stopped recording. It splits the video clips into 3.5gb chunks and filmed for a solid 8.5 minutes in 4k 30 before splitting into a new clip. I unplugged around 17 minutes and it was still going lol.
Of course, for 80$ it will be difficult to match a GoPro's quality. If you're not looking to tear apart a GoPro and are on a budget, I think the thumb is a very solid option 👍
![☀ Лучше GoPro? 16 грамм. [Runcam Thumb Pro]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/144QICTrvas/mqdefault.jpg)
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![☀ Новый синелог. Задает тренд или просто выбесил? 🤬 [Cinelog35 V2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3LXbOmqhwsE/mqdefault.jpg)
The first video of the runcam thumb 4k indoors. The video I've been looking for. Your on it. Thanks.
The fov makes a huge difference. Thank u for that side by side… I’ve always considered resolution as the difference. I am in the market for my first actioncam.
I guessed which one was the Thumb Pro. I think the reddish tint on white walls gave it away.
The thumb definitely has a more pink hue while the GoPro has a blueish hue.
Also has a slightly more narrow FOV than the GoPro.
I think both could ultimately be color corrected to look very similar though.
@@TRONCATFPV I picked it from the slight stutters - as if the stabilisation didn't quite work as well on the thumb compared to the gopro. Also from the "flat colour" being a bit less flat on the thumb (i.e. it was more contrasty).
You can get a live preview on your phone if you connect it to USB as a webcam
I crashed my regular runcam thumb and was glad to learn it was repairable, and you can even (re)adjust the focus, even though they kinda try to glue it in place.
Being prone to crashes is another reason to go with this as a cheaper alternative to GoPros.
Very good to know! I haven’t crashed it yet but it’s good to know you can adjust those minor things if you need to.
For the price I don’t think this can be beat.
repairable how? my first one just stopped working second flight...runcam wanted $80usd plus postage to repair (was $76 new!). Bought another....had a very light crash and dead.
@@LostCloudx4 the lens is glued over the sensor, mine had popped off, I just glued it back in place and it worked actually did this a second time but the second time it had dirt on the inside of the lens. I have since had another crash and it broke the sd card holder, so now it is toast.
Wow. Just wow. I just got mine in the mail yesterday, I got the thumb pro w, with the wider FOV. I have a naked hero6, and it's been a journey to keep that thing working. Been through 4 BEC boards, printing so many anti jello mounts for it. I've got 3 different mounts printing at my house right now for the thumb. One for my toothpick 3s build, 1 for my 450g AUW 5" beast, and one for the geprc cinelog 25. I did not guess the correct camera based on footage. I saw jello in the left one in the very beginning of the flight before it went through the door and thought that had to be the runcam. Super impressed.
I heard that thumb pro w has pinkish hue to it, did you experience it?
Would you recommend a gopro 6 hero black NAKED or this Wider version ? i want to put it to my Baby Ape Pro.. what would you recon?
Quality was good but GoPro had more bright color than the other one but if you can adjust it even better thanks for the knowledge.
I love this little camera. In fact I think it is as good or better than my Hero 9 especially indoors. Just a tip though...the camera lens pops off pretty easy in a crash so I put a piece of scotch tape around edge to keep it locked on.
Scotch tape might slide off if it gets warm. I would just use some hot glue.
@@dangerous8333 No way would I use messy hot glue. The PURPLE scotch tape for gift wrapping is awesome and is not gonna come off easily.
Great comparison. For the price point the Runcam4K dominates the naked gopro. The only thing I noticed was some jitters with the Runcam. I wonder if you can fix that with some type of rolling shutter filter in post.
Yea I think the gyro on the thumb is a little more sensitive to micro vibrations than a GoPro.
@@TRONCATFPV i might be wrong, but i realize runcam's gyro data's timing isn't uniform trough out a video, therefore we need more sync points on gyroflow. Those vibrations while going up the stairs, that immediately confirmed me which one was the runcam, that's what slight gyro data offset looked to me. Anyways man, that was some incredible slow controlled flight, even as a fpv pilot, you made me wonder if you shot the video handheld until you flew of the window...
Man, you nearly convinced me to go for the RunCam Thumb Pro. It ticks all the right boxes for me and GoPro form factor itself was a deterrent for me to put it on my 5inch fpv drone.
Awesome video man. Very crazy how its image quality can hold its own against the Hero 8. The new mat is indeed dope as well lol!
Right? I'm glad my little 2.5" cinewhoop was able to handle both cameras for a true side-by-side lol. Very pleased with the quality of the thumb
usually runcams give a video out to usb, failing that i think you could just use a gopro to gauge the nd filter and settings for the light.
That's really impressive, I've been wondering how the thumb pro would do for indoor showcases. Thanks!
I have the thumb pro but indoor shots is very poor just ... Very dark 🌑 ... Just unusable
I really like it, but I had to go with the Hawkeye Split for about half the price. It's almost as good and can be used as FPV too.
Good review. The only question I have is about when you said the ND filter adds motion blur. I've read that ND filters are like sunglasses for camera lenses and what creates motion blur is the relationship between frame rate and shutter speed. Please clarify. Thanks.
I am not familiar with either camera, but am looking to buy hence my watching videos like this.
I am only at the 8 minute mark of the video and I like both of these, except I prefer the image on the right, strictly because the white balance is warmer. This should be a minor tweak, so lemme ask do either of these have a white balance setting that could have been adjust prior to shooting?
Addendum:
I found my answer later in the video. Yeah the white balance can be adjusted in the settings.
I saw no difference in quality of videos so I want a runcam thumb pro, since it is a fraction of the price.
I love the thumb pro when there;s enough light, but in low light conditions it really struggles and is no match for the gopro. I fly a lot indoors and found the thumb pro lacking a lot of the times due to low light
How is the distortion for indoors flying?
@@zelkuth none when using right lens profile in gyroflow
8:13 that's where Runcam gives itself away, with a wobble . But otherwise was very hard to tell the difference!
Great video! I found your channel searching for Cinelog 25 real estate shots. Subbed!
Looking to build/buy something to enter the real estate space as a good friend is an agent. I already have a thumb pro. This proves to me that I don't need to worry about tearing apart a GoPro anymore, I just need to dial in my settings and get a better mount setup, as I'm still getting too much jello with the thumb pro vs my hero 8.
Welcome to the channel! I have lots of real estate FPV series videos planned for the future 👍
And yea definitely need solid vibration dampening for the thumb pro, the gyro seems more sensitive than a GoPro
Great video! Would you please share your Thumb pro and Gyroflow settings for indoor real estate filming? That would be awesome!
Will you also do a review on the cadxx walnut?
I’d like to once they are available!
Hello. Put mine for sale brand new cause I got the insta go 2 used in a good price. After watching this video i am thinking to keep her as an alternative,spare or even for a rear mount set-up!!
Wow! I was sure that the one on the right was going to be the GoPro.
It’s tough to tell in spots!
The coloring is ever so slightly different between the two but with some color correction I think they’d look very similar.
Thanks for the video, ordered one for me right after I was done watching.
very nice.
i wish I could figure out the gyroflow software better.
all my stabilised video looks terrible compared to yours.
I love your Videos. Appreciate the hard work. I am also thinking of getting into real estate indoor videos - will you recommend the avata with googles 2 or the geprc 25 or 35 had with googles v2?
I'm probably going to have an update video coming out within the next couple weeks on the Avata. I continuously find myself not using my Avata for numerous reasons. The latest is the remote ID update they released. Not only that but video quality isn't even close to what you can get out of a GoPro.
Personally, I would go with a GEPRC cinewhoop. For indoor use, the cinelog25 or cinebot30 will work much better than the avata 👍
I have the runcam thumb pro, but it low light isn't great at all... plus adding any nd filter even in the brightest day the video is really dark
Is it possible to mod a cam like this for bracketed stills, or otherwise known as Auto Exposure Bracketing, for HDR photography while mounted on an FPV drone?
Nice comparison and review video bro.
Thanks! 🙌
Older video... but can you tell me did you use any nd or just the standard clear lens. You never sai ✌🏴d
I bet it was 16-17g with the micro sd card inside. Great video as always man! I love my thumb too. I’ve got it on a tiny whoop and as a rear view camera on a 5”
Oh that’s an awesome idea to use this as a rear facing camera, I’m going to have to give that a shot!
@@TRONCATFPV if you’ve got a standard set of stand offs to attach to I can send you the mount design. It’s not up on thingiverse yet.
I have more spare standoffs than I can count lol. Would love to try out the STL!
My email is contact.troncatfpv@gmail.com
Thanks!
@@TRONCATFPV email sent! I forgot to
Mention you may want some custom supports in a couple places for best results.
how does one keep the drone so steady? I feel that hovering is absolutely brutal with a controller.
brother please answer,thumb pro w v2 compare gopro hero 5 which is better?
Hey man great video, I just made one as well and thought you could not preview the settings remotely, but you can. I am making a video about it in the next couple of days.
no way! I'll definitely have to figure out how to do that. I'll keep an eye out for your video 🙌
@@TRONCATFPV Working on it now...
@@TRONCATFPV I just finished, going to release it tomorrow or the next day, but figured you could use it now: ruclips.net/video/pueT6HaJVQc/видео.html
thats awesome, I didn't even think about potentially hooking it up to my phone as a webcam haha. Genius! Thanks for sharing 🙌
@@TRONCATFPV No problems
Where can you get the ND filters?
I have windows 8 so i have to use 0.3.0 beta version gyroflow can runcam thumb pro support this beta version please let me know
was vibin in liftoff then got this notification, also good review video!
I'm shocked. Found myself preferring the right hand image. If I had a pc capable of running gyroflow I'd definitely go with the thumb.
The image is strikingly close to the GP8.
I've been testing the thumb pro out with more vibration dampening and the image is even better than what I included in this video!
@@TRONCATFPV Do you mind sharing some tips on vibration dampening? I have been struggling with the jitter. Thanks!
the runcam was defo colour graded to make it better for sure.
Ya Dude! Background looks sick! 👍
Thanks breh!
the new V2 - wide version should be more up to the task compared to naked 6, 7, or 8. or 9..
Hello! Please help, mine is blinking green and red fast after a crash. Do you know what it means?
@AFellowT thanks for your reply, unfortunately runcam answered my mail and that is bad camera sensor, lost this camera.
Hey, I have been flying a runcam thumb pro for a few months now based on reviews like this. Flying side by side with my naked Hero 8, my Hero 8 is a million billion times better image quality, better stabilization, and easier to get good results in post production. My use case has been outdoors freestyle. I have really wanted it to work for me and have tried everything imaginable. Normal modes crop too much and gyro flow crops even more, and xview modes are fish eye warped, and correcting it in post is extra work and subpar results. Stabilization I cannot get right, even after months of effort and many trials. And the image quality is simply no comparison. Clarity, dynamic range, and lens effects are so much nicer on the Hero 8. Seeing reviews like this has made me feel like I don't know who or what to believe anymore. Not worth the trouble for me. I need a real camera. Too many awkward compromises makes it unusable in most circumstances.
Great review👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Not expecting that
could you share the PID settings?
PID settings will vary from drone to drone
how did you start recording on the thumb pro if you didnt have to green and hite cables wired in? im tempted to get one of these for emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle and this has now made me want to get one!
The white and green wires are only for remote recording (using a switch on your controller)
Personally, I prefer to click the button so I can see that it’s actually recording rather than a switch on my controller.
I had this function set up on naked GoPro setups but ran into issues where it wouldn’t actually be recording lol.
@@TRONCATFPV One other question, is there a limit on how long you can record for like on the insta360 cameras?
@@Kieran-fj4bq This is a great question and isn't something that I thought about when making the video.
To test this I just plugged the camera into a lipo and let it just sit on my desk. So not a lot of airflow.
The camera got noticeably warm around 5 minutes in but never shut down or stopped recording. It splits the video clips into 3.5gb chunks and filmed for a solid 8.5 minutes in 4k 30 before splitting into a new clip. I unplugged around 17 minutes and it was still going lol.
@@TRONCATFPV OK thank you, that has helped me alot 👍
Can u plz make tutorial rates 2.5in at indoor?
Already in a video 😉
Is there a easy solution for 3s battery power supply
I'm actually going to have a video in the next week or so that goes over how to make a power supply for any camera, keep an eye out!!
Any tips on smoothing out a cinelog ?
Is it a cinelog you built yourself?
@@TRONCATFPV yes
I would stay with the Naked GoPro 8 -
Of course, for 80$ it will be difficult to match a GoPro's quality.
If you're not looking to tear apart a GoPro and are on a budget, I think the thumb is a very solid option 👍
👍👍👍
Lol. Where's the link to Josh Bardwells video?
totally forgot to add that link lol. Just added it, thanks!
ruclips.net/video/CiXqm016ljc/видео.html
it looked pink to me
It does have a pink hue but its subtle enough that it could easily be fixed with some color correction
still hero 8 is better
I think for $80 it will be tough to touch GoPro's quality. This camera no doubt comes close
Yes, Runcam Thumb Pro-w is better