OMNIMAN VS EVERYONE! | Invincible Newlyweds Reaction | Ep 1x7, “We Need To Talk”
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Omniman finally SNAPS and decides to decimate ANYONE stopping him from getting to Mark and executing his mission. This episode shows the true power of Omniman, and its TERRIFYING! With seemingly nothing able to top him and the world finally aware of the monster he is, its left to Mark to talk to his Dad and see if he can stop him. With all hope nearly lost, we are HORRIFIED to see what happens next!
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how do you guys edit a live video when it live
Hi I just wanted to say I noticed some audio malfuncion I thought my head phones given up but spotifi and other youtu videos are fine that's all exited to see more videos :)
@@tomaslala8851 thanks for the heads up, if you check the beginning of the video I mention that this episode has glitched audio sadly, but like you said it’s only for this one, sorry for the inconvenience!
@@LettsReact 2 things of note:
-1) I'm honestly surprised it took you guys this long to realize that Robot/Rudy likes Monster Girl (especially Kenny, given that he's rewatched all the eps while editing).
-2) Your measured take on s1ep7 Amber is very refreshing, given how overly hateful many other RUclipsrs were/are. Could she have handled their "Liar Revealed" moment better? Yes. Personally, I would've confronted Mark about it when he asked for another start-over at the beginning of ep6. Does that just erase everything he's done up to that point? Of course not, especially since she gave him multiple chances to either come clean or end the relationship, & he instead kept making promises he couldn't keep. I know that wasn't his intention, but that was his action.
29:03 YEEAAAAH!!! Montana's finally gotten acclimated to the hardcore stuff. Big L for all those who though she'd never be able to get this far. Hype for next ep!!
We can see why Cecil spent the entire season hoping Nolan wasn't actually the bad guy, and why instead of looking into the case deeper and risking Nolan getting suspicious, he was preparing for the worst case scenario. Nolan shrugging off an actual death ray was definitely a bone-chilling moment for everyone in that control room.
I feel like Cecil knew it was 90% likely that Nolan was the killer barring some insane happening (not impossible in a superhero verse) taking place, like time travel or aliens. But 100% on everything else.
@@saltyk9869 I also got the impression Cecil was pretty damn sure Nolan was the killer, but knew if he was wrong and Nolan wasn't the killer he would needlessly make an enemy out of one of the most powerful people on the planet. Him discreetly finding counters to Nolan instead of digging deeper was the perfect solution because he didn't give Nolan a reason to suspect him, had a counter for Nolan if he was really the killer, and gained powerful assets if he wasn't.
The balls of Cecil to go into the field by himself.
I suspect Cecil feels partially guilty for the morally questionable actions he's done in the past and he has a bit of a death wish
@@youtubeviewer4472 Oh he definitely is cognizant of the guilt and responsibility. It may be compartmentalized away, but he even said, "That's why I hate me, too."
Cecil is basically two giant balls attached to a frame
@@youtubeviewer4472Ohhh I'm sure he does!!!
When Superman is the bad guy, you don’t have kryptonite, and the justice league is gone…you get this. And what a MAGNIFICENT way to do it. There’s SO much terror as you know once he’s outed, he doesn’t have to hold back anymore.
Too bad they didn't have an equivalent to Queen of Fables' story book like in s1ep12 of Harley Quinn ;)
Nah it's just Saiyans in the dc universe
@@cringekiller348 I wasn’t going to compare them til next episode when it’s relevant
Kenny overthinking Robot's storyline is so funny, robot's just got a crush
Still kinda weird tho imo
@@dollar7242 There's nothing weird, apart from cloning someone
@@byMyXzx1a middle aged man makes himself look younger to be with a girl who looks younger than 14 years old, not weird at all
@@Sundowner13The girl herself is also way older than she looks
@@jerrymathewninan6739 doesn't matter, she's physically a child
Montana's analysis of "what if Omni-Man isn't really the bad guy?" I think really speaks to excellent character work done by the animators/J.K. Simmons in this first season. You know from the end of the first episode to not 100% trust him on anything but at the same time you don't know his motivations so it's completely up in the air what is really going on with him. This in combination with his later story arcs really elevates this show above the comics for me.
Yeah, Omniman is really well written.
Her bus analogy was INSANE, when you think about it.
@@LibbyisMidWhere was that at?
@@JoeBurner1720 54:30
Yes, Immortal was Abe Lincoln. Apparently, a fan of the comics wrote in saying that he looked the same and wondering if he was, so it was decided that yes, Immortal was Abe Lincoln. A fun little tidbit. Now, if you'll excuse me, I must catch a train.
good luck catching him, heard he might be in florence or something
One thing I love about the Mauler Twins is they aren't JUST big, tough, and strong... they are ALSO brilliant engineers/technicians.
I also love the explanation of their cloning that we finally get. It seems odd that they don't know who the clone is. But it makes sense now that we see they have apparently come across problems with clones knowing they are the clone. Easy to see with them, but we even see it a little with Robot.
My bigger issue with Amber's situation is that she knew Mark was Invincible and still was guilt-tripping him and making him feel like shit after that university fight
Exactly.
Everything else is quite valid. But that point really sours her character in my eyes
Not only that she says she has known for weeks. That means she knew BEFORE his fight with battle beast. She has known all this time and is so narcissistic she demands he come shlep soup instead of save lives. Her character is so bad in S1 its a straight up plot hole that everyone around her doesn't hate her guts.
What so many Amber defenders forget is that Mark hasn’t even known this girl for a full year. A secret identity is not something you tell someone unless you are ready to tell them because you can’t take it back. It getting out can ruin your life. What really irks me is that he did tell her. She might have already known but he didn’t know that. He still chose to tell her. She isn’t mad that he didn’t tell her, cause he did, she’s mad that he didn’t tell her SOONER which is very entitled. What if he wanted to break up one day and she used his identity to blackmail him. Not that much of a stretch considering how she literally used blackmail on Todd so Mark could get her number. She’s clearly capable of it.
Remember, what Robot did does seem weird on the surface, but she's an adult. Monster Girl IS a grown woman, but every time she uses her powers she benjamin button's herself by a week. I think what he's trying to do is give her someone she can actually be with, someone with the brain and soul of an adult stuck in a younger body than it should be. Still weird, but kinda sweet almost.
Yeah it might've been a choice he made. But that does put them in a very similar position
Fun fact about Eve When she made herself coffee in the morning, she could’ve just materialized a cup of coffee, but instead she went through the steps to make the cup of coffee and her French press me that shows that she really doesn’t enjoy the simple pleasures and just want to live a normal life.
So Amber knew he was invincible for weeks, knew he was only ever "ditching" her to save lives, and STILL guilt tripped him for "leaving" during the college attack... makes sense.
I think the writers wanted to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted to subvert the trope of the oblivious gf but also to have the drama of Mark skipping on dates
Yeah the writing in this show seems amateur at times
He didn't trusted her and deceived her that make her pissed
The fact that this is such a common take infuriates me, because it's fully just wrong. IMO This plotline with Amber is actually AMAZING if you take literally two seconds to recontextualize those scenes knowing that she knew for weeks. Marks relationship with Amber in season 1 is a both a great subversion of the super-hero partner trope and a very interesting parallel to the Omni-Man/Debbie relationship. I'm more than happy to explain the reasoning behind this but if you just watched it again carefully, you'll probably see it. Just because YOU didn't understand it the first time through doesn't make it bad writing.
She wasn't much of a character in the comics and they wanted to make a strong girl character, which is fine and all, but this was horribly botched and all the girlbossing just made her unlikeable and selfish
The whole budget for season 1 and 2 went into the hammer.
Did you see that atom eve fight?
the eve special had amazing animation
The Donal death counter got me😂. Nice knowing its not a spoiler to say, since the video is recorded long before editing😊
True, though some are probably watching this series alongside their own first watch (or instead of their own first watch, but don't say that too loud or lawyers get antsy). I was a bit surprised to see the counter for that reason.
Dang it, Bobby. Why'd you have to go and get yourself blown up?
@@rain6957 wonder if it was a propane explosion. Maybe propane accessories.
How did it just occur to me how similar Robot and Mechamaru from JJK are?? They're literally the same character lol
You gotta realize one thing about Mark. The main super hero group is DEAD. Its almost all on him to pick up the slack. And you think Omni man is gonna be doing anything? So thanks to all the extra work he's doing, he's flaking more than usual. Was a very unfortunate time to do a relationship with a non super hero. At least a superhero partner you can tell them everything and don't gotta worry about the whole "i cant tell anyone my secret identity or else you'll be in danger" lol.
Kenny being like “how are you doing?” Montana responding with “I’m alright” and then Kenny finishing with “AoT prepared you well” is hilarious knowing how this all ends
"Have they hinted at any other villain?"
At this point, 100% Robot. I mean if they wanted to go for it here, it could work
Agreed. Cecil too, especially alongside an idea that he puppetmastered the guardians somehow. The Martian face-sucker things, too, though it was at least mildly implied that they weren't on earth prior to their episode.
Things didn't go that way (at least as of this episode), but it's not unreasonable to consider several angles.
Montana's mental gymnastics this episode trying to hold out hope Omni-Man isn't the villian should give her a gold medal in the summer olympics😂 love watching both your reactions to these shows!!
I’m pretty sure Montana was intentionally play devil’s advocate. She just wanted to know if Kenny thought they(the writers) might pull the rug out from under them and switch villains. She never seemed upset when asking if there was a possibility the murder was for good. She didn’t even really provided her own possibilities, she just wanted Kenny’s input.
"Sinclair Gamer Rage " 🤣🤣🤣
Montana coming up with ways that Omni-Man actually killed the Guardians for a good reason was hilarious😂😂
I'm also the kind of person that will hear a "this is 100% the case" statement and argue for the existence of the .01% counterexamples, while still agreeing that they're unlikely as fuck. So, I get it.
Also, it's a show, and writers and audiences like twists, so a .01% chance realistically becomes more like a 2% chance in terms of possible storytelling. It can lead to a lot of self-spoiling of twists by predicting possible twists early enough to catch the obscure "you could have figured it out" hints that are meant to be part of the big reveal later. Most ideas are laughably wrong, but then the occasional one lines up.
Aaaaand another thing we share is a history of being in situations where being able to explain away awful behavior is adaptive, so there's that.
Well, he did do it for a good reason, at least at the time.
@@mememe628 Trust me, I’m that way too. I was like Montana after the first episode. I hadn’t watched The Boys yet, so I had only seen good superheroes. I mean I’ve seen supervillains, but never one that pretended to be a superhero (unless you count Syndrome from the Incredibles). So I was coming up with every reason for him to actually be a good guy. That’s why her coming up with these possibilities was so funny to me, because that was me a few years ago. With that being said, after the first 2-4 episodes, I stopped coming up with ways, and got on board with him having other motives. 😂😂
I’m pretty sure Montana was intentionally playing devil’s advocate. she just wanted Kenny’s input to know if Kenny thought they(the writers) might pull the rug out from under them and switch villains. She never seemed upset when asking if there was a possibility the murder was for good. She didn’t even really try to provide her own possible reasons.
Just a reminder that breaking stuff in a house is also abuse. Punching a hole in a wall is a red flag, even if the partner in question isn't superhuman.
Honestly it'd be less of a red flag with superman. With him it could be the equivalent of just the whole slap a table to emphasise a point only whoops he held back enough for cardboard not paper. He's not that made because if he hit it full strength your losing the wall and possibly a few buildings beyond it. Whereas if you or I put a whole through a wall either it's cheap plasterboard or there's a whole lot of rage fueling that hit.
Debbie threw a glass of wine before Nolan punched a hole in the wall. Interesting how it’s abuse only when a guy does it…
Robot: "Change da world... My final message. Goodb ye."
Yes immortal lived for a thousand years so he was a president of USA..SO YEAH YOU GOT IT
Still would be the third oldest candidate. (/s, obviously)
@@mememe628 yeah
(At 19:45) clearly, he was born with a mutation and made "disfigured." Which is "hardly" uncommon.
They passed the amber vibe check. Let's see how they do with [Redacted]
Mhm. A lot of it comes down to a (relatively/overall) minor writing fumble. Even ignoring that entirely, it's reasonable to be upset about someone consistently lying to you and ditching you, without at least making a half-decent effort to keep you updated and give reasons a bit less insultingly obviously bad. Even if the ditching is for a good reason and withholding the truth is justified.
@@mememe628I guess, but mark has nearly died, like 3 times prior to the reveal, and Amber probably pieced together that mark was connected to both the university fight (and therefore saving William) and the machine head fight (where mark got his organs splayed out like a pollock painting.
I get why she’s mad, and hell, you could even justify the break up, but the reason she gave was…just not good? It could have been like “I’m fearing for my safety due to being connected to like the top hero at the time” or “I love you, but this just isn’t a sustainable relationship” not “you should feel bad for having a secret hero identity nearly dying to save people”
Hell, in season two they went with the unsustainable relationship route and guess what, it actually made sense!
In the end, I think this was just a case of “deconstructing the hero reveal” gone wrong. Annnd I’ve rambled too much.
@@MothmanOfficialWva Yeah, her being upset wasn't the problem, it was just the way she acted and why she was upset in the context of the previous episode. Rewatching that episode knowing she knows makes her come across like an awful _extremely_ self-centered person. Which is the opposite of what they were trying to do with her character. It really seems like someone just messed up in the writer's room, like they wrote the episode without the reveal in mind.
the reference to Superman fighting Darkseid is peak for a reference cuz the quote goes "i feel like i live in a world made of cardboard always taking constant care not to break something to break someone never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment or someone could die but you can take it cant you big man? what we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful i really am"-superman then proceeds to punch and smash Darkseid through buildings and into the ground
That married couple fist bump to make sure Montana was okay was the cutest.
(At 46:40) That sucker Punch knocked out a tooth… I "think" that's a tooth?
I love the rematch between Omni-Man and Immortal. Immortal wants justice for what Omni-Man did, but it turns into revealing to the world who he really is. Imagine your last moment of consciousness being someone you trusted chopping your head off. Thats the first thing anybody would want if that was possible
(At 33:05) So much for "thinking for everything". He didn't think of a way not to piss off his own team or breaking their trust behind their back, especially with Rex.
honestly i think here is where they were lost on what to do with amber in season 1. she was totally wrong imo, knowing he was hero and still being pissed that he didn’t told her sooner like it’s an ordinary thing to do, instead of being minimally understandable of his position. i don’t get her reaction at all
I mean she doesn't have to be rational in her anger. I can understand her being upset that he was constantly missing dates and the like. This is a pretty standard "Superhero is dating a normal person" plotline. The problem really is more the writing. In one episode she gets mad that he abandoned them and almost fucks some other dude. In the next she knows he was a superhero and got mad that he lied. If she knows he is a hero, she had to know he saved them. So why is she upset!? What started this whole thing?
@@saltyk9869 that’s precisely what i’m talking about, the fact that she knew he was a hero and still got mad, it even makes her actions worse in ep 6 because she kinda gaslighted him
Fans got mad because she knew and got mad and upset anyway. Also that moment is done differently in the comics. Its handled in a way that honestly makes more sense
"Have we seen any other villian?"
Me: Thinks of the mummy.
We Need To *React*
Funny how last episode when Mark saved them all at the college, Amber asked “Who was that?” when Mark flew away. Now all of a sudden she’s known for weeks.
she knew he was a hero but not which one i guess
It is pretty clear that someone in the writing room thought Amber knowing already would be a "cool idea" without considering how that didn't fit with anything else or how that affected people's perception of the character.
@@joelsasmad I think it definitely could've been handled much better if she just realized in the past couple days, after the attack at the college. That would make more sense and also give a better justification as to why she is still mad about the situation
The writers admitted there was a miscommunication between episodes. They tried in season two I guess because amber was terrible lol
@@joelsasmad Actually, this video made me notice a possible other reason why they thought it'd be a good idea, the parallel with Debbie and Nolan. Given that, it'd make sense why they thought it'd fit the story, because Invincible is doing the same thing Omni Man is, but in the opposite scenario of who he is. Yet even when it's the same situation, when Debbie did it everyone clapped, and when Amber did it, everyone felt weird about it. The execution wasn't great, but having that in mind, the decision makes a lot more sense. At the end of the day, I think the scene portrays that the lying wasn't what was wrong, by making Amber look bad and Debbie look good, but who they really were to have to lie. Though I think what it ended up feeling like they tried to do was to show that lying is wrong no matter what, so we were supposed to side with Amber, when they should've shown that Mark did fine by doing that (and make it happen after the college thing at the very least).
Best episode of the season let's go!!
That’s the final one
(At 51:57) Omni-Man: WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!
(At 45:20) okay, Cecil is stupid, because if he thinks Nolan can't stop THIS, does he expect him and his men, much less "new" The Guardians Of The Globe, Atom Eve, Mark alone or with his father will? What's stopping this thing from going into a populated area?
He didn't say they didn't have a killswitch, just that he couldn't afford to call it off.
I enjoyed the very nuanced question and nuanced take of the Amber and Mark situation. When this episode frist came out the response to this episode and her character was down right vitriolic. It was understandable not to like a choice a character made. However not only did people ignore any fault Mark might have had in their relationship, but they made her out to be just the absolute worst, like people literally made her out to be abusive.
I think the editor should check the microphone sound for the next video. In this video, there were lots of abrupt glitchings noticeable with headphones. It sounds like a bad Bluetooth connection but I can also hear it without headphones. 👀
Yeah I had to check it wasn’t my headphones. It’s def this video
Rex's reaction to Robot's new body is my favorite part of this episode! ❤️😂 He explains his reasoning for doing it but it's still insane 😅😄
Not the Donald death counter 😂
Episode title easily could have been "And the kitchen sink" as they literally try everything to kill Omni-Man and fail this episode.
They threw a literal goddamn kaiju at him. Everything is an understatement.
The "trust" thing between superheros and their partners is always so wild to me.
They can't ever seem to understand bringing them into the circle makes them more of a target.
Also, the Donald death counter is a little, interesting, huh?
6:00 amber is trash. I can not wait till Mark realise Atom Eve is the one for him.
The reason why "everything changed for Rex 2 is because he is alive before the transfer and once the process is complete, he will be gone and Robot will take over.
Given that our personalities are so tied to our body chemistry, is there any chance we would be the same person if we changed bodies? Asking for robot.
(At 21:20) Honestly, I don't.
He's basically trying to make a new body of someone else, who is a rip off of Gambit from _X-Men,_ just a hook up with someone who's "barely" interested in him, behind his back.
To be honest, at this point I stopped blaming the whole 'Amber gets mad at Mark' situation on Amber, and started looking at it like a result of shoddy writing. Amber getting upset at Mark would have been valid if she hadn't known he was a superhero. Her getting irrationally upset at Mark knowing he wasn't always there because he was saving lives just got exhausting and started looking less like the character and more like the writers just kind of messing up. I would say it's probably season one's biggest flaw because it just took me out of the show so hard, since I wasn't able to look at Amber like her own character, but rather just wondered what the writers were thinking. I genuinely delete this whole thing from my brain when thinking about Amber as a whole because this whole situation just didn't seem like the character to me, rather a caricature of some kind.
Yep, it was a terrible job handling the character. They course corrected very well in season 2.
@@joegreene7619couldn’t agree any more. Season 2 they totally course corrected
@@joegreene7619 Absolutely. This is the one time I find Amber actually unbearable. And it really just comes down to feeling like the two episodes had writers not communicating at all. In S2, I find Amber okay. In the end, she's really just a minor plot device. But there is one scene in S2, I felt like she added to.
Yup, it was 100% a writing continuity error. Robert Kirkman lowkey admitted as such in an earlier interview. Episodes 6 and 7 had two different head writers, but at the time they didn't realize the far reaching implications of Amber knowing about Mark's secrets for WEEKS.
They genuinely did not intend for Amber to look like a hypocritical a-hole, but that was the unintended consequence of that subplot's iffy writing.
I disagree, slightly. She can be upset with him AND know he's a superhero. Those excuses were so bad, and happened at every big moment for their relationship. The cyborg thing is handled poorly, but I could also see someone just blowing up on something irrationally because they don't want to blow up about the thing that's really bothering them.
(At 48:53) The "Oh shit" looks on the Twin's faces… priceless.
"Uh-oh"
"We surrender"
"Please don't kill us"
Reminds me of a scene with Metallo and a possessed superman. Starts off talking about he's going to crush him, exposes Kryptonite. Possessed Superman does the equivalent of back hand him into the dirt and he'd instantly apologising for bother Superman on what's obviously a bad day because he knows he can't actually win a fight.
The Donald death counter made me chuckle 😝
Fun fact there is a real form of orbital cannon called Thors hammer basically a giant tungsten rod dropped from space that can impact with the force of a nuke
This is why i love Cecil.
He does what is necessary to protect the world. And will do any dirty work to do it.
But he still has heart (or at the very least, he's not cold hearted).
Since kenny loves saying penultimate to every season of every show i'm eager to hear him say antepenultimate from now on
Montana coming up with an Omni-Man defense theory because he was sad on a mountain😭😭
26:51
They weren’t trying to kill him, they were trying to distract him. Cecil needed as much time as he could get to think of a plan to stop Omni Man so he basically sent those soldiers on a suicide mission to buy him even just one more minute of time.
Have a awesome day
I’ve waited so long for you two to get to this episode. Loved seeing your minds blown away.
Immortal had the mutton chops and rage of Wolverine. What a rematch! He got a tummy ache and Omni-Man was given a crushing headache!
I didn’t think Immortal had any offensive moves to make after being punched like that. Then dang he goes for Omni-man’s skull, Mountain style!
Too bad he got Darth Mauled by a karate chop. Love to read about his time as Abraham Lincoln
JJK season 2 episode 7 spoilers!! Beware!
I never realized how similar Robots fight with the twins is in concept to Mechamaru’s fight against Mahito. I highly doubt that either inspired the other; it’s just a cool example of two artists coming to a similar idea of what would be sick
(At 48:20) okay, so Immortal is basically Vandal Savage… who can fly.
2nd Gen Vandel Savage except not evil. (during one the arcs he gets a new meteor and it also gives him flying brick powers while restoring his immortality/youth which had begun to weaken. Though he's eventually drained back to Gen 1 Vandal Savage level).
Man she really was right about Nolan. He had to do what he did or the earth would get massacred
just found this channel and off the bat, 3 cats and a couple?!? Instant win/sub .
NAAAAAH Kenny have that future devil in one of his eyes, I'm sure of it 🧐
Amber being mad is totally valid, her guiltripping while knowing full well that Mark is risking his life to protect the world is not. Either tell him you know, and break up with him, or tell him you know and stay together. It's weird when people would just expect someone to tell them, they were a superhero. He didn't even tell his best friend which he knew for way longer than he knew you. Like superhero media exists in this world, why superheroes need to keep their identity secret is well known, and even in said media, the SO most of the time finds out accidentally or is the hero is forced to tell them. Being mad he was a bad boyfriend sure valid, being mad that he wouldn't tell you his SECRET identity is crazy
The Amber nonsense knowledge moment... how to forget that.
42:04 “oh my god they’re actually doing damage” no, no they are not, they are hurting him the same way a bee sting hurts, at that point it’s just kissing him off lnao
(At 25:30) bus?! Wasn't that a semi-trailer truck?
you HAVE to watch the Atom Eve special in between season 1 and 2. Its so good!!
They did.
For the Amber thing, I for sure think Mark was in the right for keeping the secret, and for a long time felt like, what stringing her along? He really does care about her, he really did mean to make it to those events and felt truly terrible that he couldn't make it. Heck one time he was beating almost to death (the soup kitchen stand up) But you guys just helped me get it. The stringing along was really, when realizing he couldn't juggle both he should have just broke up with her.... now I get the stringing her along. I think thats what Eve meant, thats why she dated another superhero. So he got it and was there too
That said, the other reasoning I came up in my mind. From a writing perspective is then they could have written it that way. The you should have told me or broke up with me. Because it's not fair to me to do neither if you can't manage your time better. And have her say there are OTHER heroes that can do it. Like cops and firefighters get time off.
Another thing that I had thought of before, if she had worded it as, you were willing to let your best friend risked dying to give an excuse for mark to leave before invincible shows up. like that keeping the secret was worth risking his best friends life. But a heroes' secret identity isn't just about them, its protecting their loved ones too, and in Mark's case, his father's secret identity is tied to his soooo
A lot of people even Robert Kirkman himself dont like Amber’s reaction, they themselves said they would have done it differently because Amber is much more compliant in the comics but still her view is good. I dont think its the lying about being a superhero but the fact he knew he had obligations and always kept promising her to then blow her off, he kept giving her hope before taking it aways and i know Kenny said that comes with the superhero gig but after like two months he should have realized that and stop promising, also i really dont know if Amber really knew cause there are so many heros its possible but is it just teenage pride? Like euh i knew anyways so it doesnt matter, maybe? But man talking about the rest of the episode is just so great, it gave us one of the best memes "Wheres Mark William?" by Omniman wich became "Where’s season 2 William?" by the fans with the long wait between both seasons haha 😂
The episode that made amber a sociopath.😂😂😂
Reminder that Monster girl is 24 years old but ages down a week every time she transforms. Robot is 30 years old and purposely had a teenage body grown so she wouldnt feel as alone. Plus its pretty obvious by now he caught feelings despite playing the part of a a machine for however many years he was a hero.
Also in defense of being blunt, you can probably tell from Rudy's situation with his real body and coming across as a robot for most of his life, it makes sense he doesnt have proper social smarts.
The way people would have completely different opinions of the Amber situation if the show were from this character’s POV and the genders were swapped lol. It’s really not that complex of a situation. Amber explains her whole issue with Mark’s behavior in the first episode they start dating when she says she “likes an honest man.” Additionally, they’re like. Teenagers. They’re gonna make irrational, sometimes jerkish decisions sometimes, and in fact it’s far more interesting to me as a viewer when they do. The reason this situation is so interesting is because neither Amber OR Mark are entirely in the right. Amber deserved an honest boyfriend who actually showed up for dates or at least was forward about why he couldn’t, and Mark can’t be expected to immediately tell someone about his secret identity because that’s delicate information.
Both you and Kenny and Montana are misunderstanding what people had an issue with. The whole hiding the secret identify or not is not what made people mad. The thing everyone had an issue with is that the fight that broke them up centers on the idea that Mark ran away and left Amber and his friend to die to the cyborg. However, she then claims to know he is Invincible, so she is pissed off because he abandoned them but then supposedly knows that he did not and actually fought to save them. That poor writing and contradiction in the plot is what annoyed people and made Amber's actions make no sense and cast the break up in this weird light since the whole fight makes no sense. The whole secret identity thing and how long should you wait to tell someone is a seperate issue that made some people dislike her even more but it was not the primary thing that sparked off the hate for Amber.
@haydenlux5027 completely agree. It would be one thing if they foreshadowed Amber knowing better. Like if in episode six Amber was gently nudging Mark to tell her without directly saying she knows and then the situation with the murder cyborg happened and Mark still lied even with her giving some heavy hints that she knows then her being as angry as she was would make at least a little sense. But the scene and rest of the episode wasn't written like that it was written as if Amber just didn't know, which is the problem. And I think it's something people latch onto because it's an example of bad writing in a show with full of good writing so it sticks out like a sore thumb. That being said I do think people have gone overboard with the whole hating Amber thing. It was an example of bad writing but it us just one, and isn't really a mistake they've made again in the show.
So we all agree robot is just mechamaru right
Giving Donald a death counter is wild
Fans weren't upset about Mark not telling, there upset that she knew for "some time" and still complained after the college fight.
So am I the only one that thought this episode had a last minute rewrite?
Hear me out it felt like one of the writers didn’t like Amber not knowing Mark was invincible bc it would perceive her being “dumb” (even tho it wouldn’t) for not knowing but the writer did not realise that their rewrite would make Amber a lot worse in the previous episodes
TV series amber is just a terrible human being. But it makes it so much more satisfying that Mark finally dumped that piece of trash for Eve.
If you think that animation is crazy , just wait until till you guys discover the Fate series
Mark's treatment in this episode really pissed me off because everyone's shitting on him for struggling to balance his life like they could do a better.
I'm happy that the second season at least acknowledges that he has a really hard life and that he can't have it all like all these assholes insist he does.
Neither of yall cooked with the theories in this one😂
Okay 10:27 I died laughing, that is way too true...
"That scene was so gory"
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Yes.... that scene... only that scene... no others to come....
If a girl had enough bullshit with me saving the earth and spending my time 95% considering for the next attack. And she knew, I would ecxpect like: ''Do what you gotta do''
Or ''I can't imagine what you're going throught, but keep going!'' Stuff, but she decided to remain selfish and that pisses me off! She can't do it, but still.... We need to talk from a man is something women is not exctpengin and it terriviecs them.
“The next president of the United States” I JUST GOT RHAT 💀💀💀💀💀💀
The Amber and Mark thing is explained by William and Eve and people still don't get it. Amber has been fed up with Mark but he constantly begs for another chance swearing he will do better. Granted its her fault to for believing him but he can't use his secret identity as a get out of jail free card after wasting so much time. Eve even says he shouldn't have been a dick about it and strung her along because that is what he did. Now I don't think Mark is completely wrong either he genuinely thought he could handle it and Amber was his first real relationship so he just wasn't equipped to deal with any of this. But they could've dropped hints that Amber already knew instead of just blindsiding people this episode with it or have her just figure it out now.
I think you nailed it right on the head. The stuff William and Eve said is true, and it's not that Mark or Amber were necessarily at fault, they're just two young people inexperienced with relationships who are in a relationship that is also balancing something high stress in Mark's super heroing.
I honestly feel like people took the illogical writing of the writing in episode 6 and conflated it into a bigger problem with Amber's character as a whole, rather than having that example separate in their minds as just one example of bad writing in the show.
@@crossin8772 I don't even think this is an example of bad writing in Ep 6. Amber has been feeling disrespected for months. IMO it's an unfair double standard I've been seeing in so much of the Amber disourse to be okay with Mark being a bad partner for so long but at the same time hating on Amber when she is a bad partner and lashes out illogically. Her knowing/heavily suspecting his identity and guilt tripping him is an asshole thing to do, but it was emotionally driven and those emotions are valid.
@@Beacharty I get what you're saying and you're right Mark was in a bad partner due to not knowing how to balance his super hero life and his love life. And I do think that a lot of people have had a double standard when it's come to this situation.
However, when I say bad writing I don't mean that it's bad because Amber I'd unjustified. The story of them. both being unable to make the relationship work due to being immature and not knowing how to deal with it is great, and up until episode six is dealt with very well.
Mine, and a lot of people's problem to the writing in episode 6 is that it doesn't feel like Amber is written as if she knows about Mark's secret identity IN the episode which by this point according to what we've been told she does. It feels like the writers wanted to surprise the audience with the idea Amber knew, but instead of doing a proper amount of foreshadowing, it felt like they went "oh let's keep writing Amber as if she doesn't know until we reveal she does." And that just doesn't work. Instead it makes her reaction in episode 6 largely confusing and illogical, because it felt she was written as if she thought that Mark genuinely left them in the murder bot situation.
(At 47:52) I don't like Cecil. He's an asshole. And he KNOWS it.
Bout to be crazy
Wait the audio was a glitch? I just assumed yall were doing your best MachineHead impressions!
(At 35:12) That's all the above of stupid, abuse of power, and above all else… overkill. Anyone else think this is more than "collateral damage" being done here?
Nope, Amber is a total washout as a girlfriend of a superhero. In a world where they have public knowledge of superbeings she should have understood what that meant in a relationship with one. She should have understood that it was going to have to be a different sort of trust between them and if she didn't think she could trust that Mark had good reasons to decieve her to keep all around him safe then she should have opted out herself when she figured out he was a superhero. But no, she waited until she could get all pissy with him and show how much of an insecure shitty vindictive person she was and throw it all in his face. Definitely not a keeper.
The Amber in the comics was annoying but this one is a complete waste of animation cells.
There is no limit to how much i loath amber. i hate her sooooo much lol. i think she is the real vilan of the story.
Marks about to start the trauma trials 😂the comics do him dirty in so many ways yall haven't seen non yet
I think the attack at the college scared Amber and she realized what she was getting into. So she rejected him to protcet herself 🤔
Ah, the mind transfer thing... strong SOMA vibes...
you guys gonna watch atom eve special before season 2?
I'm surprised yall didn't get the memo about robot with monster girl, he literally basically said after MG said "what do you know about my life that feels similar towards yours?" When he basically said I feel the same with you about ppl not knowing the true depth about his past and powers and all of that. So it was kinda hinted at the beginning, I think yall were just talking over it sadly... 😅
Lol the whatttt when Amber said she knew was mad funny 😂😂😂
Oh you have no idea how ugly it's gonna get.