Judging from how you described Prophet, I would say that he would have to adopt 1 of 2 methods to turn the tide in his favor. Either he waits for DOOM tech to be developed by the humans like it was in DOOM, giving him things like the BFG, but also allowing him to possibly harness argent energy in the same way they must have done it. Or he ditches his dead host body and physically takes over a demon. As for the Cyberpunk universe, we see a lot of the Miltech Corpo Mercenaries, police, and Arasaka assassins. They're all probably on par with whatever is a step above fodder. They might be able to give V and Adam Smasher could maybe have a sort of faction battle against demons. I know it's MCs vs. the invasion but in Cyberunk's case it might be more realistic to assume that the MCs aren't alone. Stellar video, really got me thinking
Honestly, a lot of the Borderlands universe is legitimately spiteful enough to unleash The Destroyer as a hail-mary for no other reason than to deny the Demons' conquest. It is explicitly stated to have the ability to destroy the entire universe if fully released. If worse came to worse and the Hunters and Corps were backed into the proverbial corner, they can just drop Elpis onto Pandora and let The Destroyer do its thing. They'll all be dead, and their universe will be annihilated, but it would also prevent the Demons from fully winning.
@@dgagamingaesir You're misunderstanding what The Destroyer is. It's not alive in the conventional sense. It's an interdimensional lovecraftian force of nature. Its presence alone literally burns the fabric of the universe. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that The Destroyer _is_ the concept of destruction given physical form, much like how Davoth and the Demons may be collectively considered Conquest and Ambition given physical form. Every time we've faced it, it was an incomplete or partially-awakened being that held a fraction of a fraction _of a fraction _*_of a fraction_* of its full strength. Every time we "kill" it, we've simply delayed and distracted it enough so the Prison it should be trapped in can re-close the seal. The reason why it's trapped is because the Eridians were completely incapable of killing it. Their Vaults are capable of materializing weapons from across time and space, yet they were forced to sacrifice their entire race in order to seal it away because no weapon that does or will exist in the entirety of space and time is or will be capable of killing it. The Destroyer will probably not destroy the Demons, but it will destroy the entirety of the Borderlands Universe and kill anyone and anything inside of it by simply existing there. The Demons may just be sent back to Hell after their deaths, but the universe they were killed in will simply be gone.
@@BreadTeleporter1968 It wouldn't be about beating the demons at that point, it would be about not letting them fully win. It would be a massive, spiteful middle finger from an entire universe of insane, suicidal assholes.
I still love that David Symanzki added that as a joke, left it there thinking nobody was gonna find it, and then when people found it he just left it there like "oh yeah I forgot about that lol"
“The khan maykr has been around demons for millions of years and doesnt seem to corrupted” my brother she sacrifices planets to hell so her people dont die
Yeah his guns are also weaker then his punch because he wants them to suffer. The 4x damage does nothing to him whereas it kills everyonr who uses it. And again, it's him just deciding to boost his weapons even more. Like how the rage melee his him just decided to be more efficient and less of a torturer.
@@poutineausyropderable7108 Apparently, he doesn't canonically have to use guns. It's mostly just a gameplay feature, I believe. However, his guns are shown to scale with his powers because of the divinity machine.
Plus cyberpunk characters typically have longer lifespans. Just look at Saburo Arasaka's 158 years or Hanako looking 30 despite being 78. Medicine in cyberpunk works miracles for life extensions assuming you can afford it with the lifestyle of a corpo or a badass edgerunner solo.
@@kiro253 Op said "everything was canon." Therefore, just because he isn't in 2077 doesn't mean he isn't somewhere else. Under that logic, V should not be a thing then. L take.
Considering that Doom humanity did reverse engineer argent energy into their otherwise Earth based tech, shouldnt it mean the Prophet who's entire deal is adaptive nanomachines be able to do the same after coming into contact with it?
@@sebia1238 Considering that Prophet is a master tactician, has stealth tech and is stronger than the majority of the grunts, I think he should survive long enough to adapt.
As soon as I heard you had the invasions in the verse and not in the doom verse I knew it was over. They can’t deal with the icon of sin. There’s no crucible
He skipped out on A LOT Higher demons can chill in hell and posess /mentallyattack people in different universes without respite. A single archphile can resurrect all killed demons. A summoner can send out an omnidirectional lazarus wave. Higher demons can shrug off nuclear bombs easily. Gore nests create inverse quantum fields that tear apart spacetime. And so on.
Back in my day you killed the icon of sin the old fashioned way, by shooting at it until it dies! No but really, you can still fill it with lead. And while that may not kill it, it will give you ample time to close the portal allowing it and hell through, or to contain the icon in some way like the makyrs did in eternal.
@@AnimatedTerror It won't work. Maykers had heart of son of Traitor who was the mind of the Icon, after Doom Slayer destroyed it, even Maykers couldn't contro, Icon
We are leaving out several major factors in Boarderlands. The scale and ease of instant manufacturing of killer robots, cloning being easy access and quick with all your memories and combat experience in tact and every single person in that universe has multiple guns on them at all times would make it a nightmare for the demon's to try and take over especially when so many normal psychos are likely just as powerful as an Imp and the planets are full of them.
If you are refering to the NewYou Stations with the cloning thing then no they do not. The NewYou Stations are not a cannon thing that exist in universe for the Borderlands Games. They are simply there as part of a game mechanic so that you don't have to reload a save if you die outside a boss fight. Other than that I am in full agrement with you.
@@kahnathara6542 my friend. New you stations might not be cannon....but *digistructing* IS. Digitised items immidiately being constructed like hyperion loaders, Gaige's Deathtraps, axton's turrets, all the catch a ride stations are all proof that yes, digital to phisical, instantanious printing exists.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 I am more than willing to admit that I could be wrong, but as far as I can remember Digistruct tech does not work with organic material like flesh and bone. Which means that cloning is still not a thing. And Digistruct tech is also why I agreed with chakat on everything else in the first place.
@@kahnathara6542 sorry lad, i might have phraised it in a hostile way! You are a 100 percent in the right, just wanted to point out the tech itself still exists, and functions. (With your already stated limitation) Just might've put it down in the wrong way.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 You're good, I didn't take what you said in a hostel fashion, and I didn't mean to come across as hostel myself if I did. It is hard for me to tell if someone is purposely being hostel or not when I can't actually hear them, so no hard feelings or anything.
Quick Crysis lore. In the first game you play as nomad, then in the second game you play as Alcatraz, Alcatraz wearing prophet’s nano suit, in between Crysis two and three Alcatraz gets so traumatized that Prophet takes control if Alcatraz’s body
Also he is forgetting the best strategy in crysis two and three against the Ceph. Rocket launch spam. In crysis your melee speed never changes but the damage does so get the rocket launcher and melee has fast as you can against Ceph, it won’t work against Cell
I hate being that kind of person but ALL lasers travel at highspeed, they're all made of light. Classifications like "chemical laser" or "fiber laser" refer to how it is generated. For example a chemical laser uses a chemical reaction to power the lught beam. Nuclear lasers are the most metal. They are powered by the radiation released by a nuclear explosion that energizes the lasing material and firing an EXTREMELY powerful beam for mere fractions of a second before the whole thing is turned into a very angry ball of plasma.
Sure, V1 can take on Earthmovers and the Corpse of King Minos, but I doubt it can damage even one normal Hell Titan, because in order to even damage one of them, you'll need Wraith or Argent Energy to even get it to penetrate through the skin. So technically, V1 can't really kill even one DOOM Hell Titan with its weapons. Sure, V1 can dodge and parry, using his guns will be about as effective as throwing pebbles at a tank.
V1 is just a machine. He would get torn to pieces by the 'heavy' and 'super heavy' demons of the Doom universe, just like what happened to Samuel Hayden.
@@significancedry6627ok but like in ultrakill v1 manages to hurt Gabriel. He manages to hurt a biblically accurate Angel! Dooms demons are more sci fi nowadays but ultrakill is more connected to Dante’s inferno and therefore the abrahamic god who is capable of all things. Yeah V1 managed to cause Gabriel to bleed. This actually scared Gabriel because like, you know that shouldn’t be possible. But he did it. Dooms demons are tough but if V1 comes along it’s game over. V1 is literally built different.
35:20 debatably Adam smasher wouldn’t be affected by the soul ripping because it’s arguable wether he even has a soul anymore or if through all his augments he’s now just effectively an ai that thinks of itself as “Adam smasher” probably wouldn’t matter in the end, but an interesting thought.
I mean V's soul is basically already being corrupted by Johnny. So if they suck the rest of V's soul out than you have Johnny to deal with and since he's a construct he probably can't get sucked out of the body.
I think Adam smasher would just switch to hell side considering his character and well he’d go from A corporate solider to literal demon commander why would he turn that down if that would end up well for him I can’t say but I believe he would join them willingly
I would like to say that, regular weapons would in fact work on the demons. That's exactly what happened in the original Doom and Doom 2 and Doom 64, a long time before the Slayer acquired his Divinity powers, he was just a man with a gun. This alone would move every universe, including our own, at least up to partial Super Heavy status, as you could just throw Carl Gustaf/AT-4/Javelin rounds at Barons, Doom Hunters, and Tyrants until they died (just like you could in the original, enough rockets will kill anything). Archie would be a problem due to his shield and his summoning, and the Marauder would be the hard cap for most universes just due to his impenetrable shield and speed. The biggest problem and why you see Earth's military and the ARC getting shellacked is the SHEER NUMBERS of the demons and their ability to corrupt/possess people, not necessarily their durability or hitting power. If you notice, most of the giant Jaeger-sized mechs (both Sentinel and ARC) are mostly intact but non-operational. I have an idea that a lot of them had their crew killed by thousands of fodder swarming the mech and getting inside or by their crew becoming corrupt/possessed.
Argent Energy didn’t exist in the original Doom games. Remember Doomguy went back in time Billions of years and introduced the Maykrs to the Demons. This lead to the creation of Argent energy and a MASSIVE power increase to the demons. In that original timeline Earth was able to fight off the demons in the first city they invaded. In the new timeline even with Samuel building giant mechs and giving humanity Sentinel technology they were still overwhelmed in a few weeks. The demons in Eternal are not the same as the ones in the OG games.
@@rougarabid I don't think there's any evidence for the Slayer going back in time. Since the demons and Hell itself is pretty much timeless, I was under the impression that he was trapped in Hell after the 64 version for an untold amount of "time" until he popped out a portal into Argent D'nur at roughly the same time that he effectively entered Hell in his own universe (since he didn't age and was more or less the exact same physically, even in his old gear which would have fallen apart just from time if it flowed normally), putting his Earth and the new Earth on roughly the same tech level. Secondly, we can see the still functioning energy (presuming plasma) turrets at the ARC base and the UAC Phobos facility shooting Cacodemons out of the sky, which means that at least something equivalent to a plasma gun's output in energy can hurt and destroy them. Third, we can see very clearly the skeletons of dead demons in the Eternal E3 teaser, (The one where it shows the Slayer crushing the skull of a demon that an Imp had knocked from it's skeleton) implying that something was able to kill them before the Slayer arrived.
@@rougarabid So you're saying the E3 teaser is him reliving the events of Doom 2, so why are there Hell tentacles, and the new version of the Arachnotron with the top mounted plasma cannon, and the Hellborn Baron with the arm blades, and his shotgun has the meathook. Not to mention that you see several freshly dead (no decay/skeleton) demons including a prominent Imp. Also, what could have hit that demon hard enough to skeletonize it, because it wasn't there long enough to decay naturally. I'm just gonna go ahead and say that most firearms will work on fodder and some heavies (squishy bags like the Cacodemon, Arachnotron's exposed brain), while higher caliber and anti-material type weapons will work on most heavies and maybe one super heavy (Archie), with anti-tank weapons being able to work on most almost every demon besides the Marauder, the Titans, and the Boss monsters, with something like a 2,000lb bomb,16in battleship cannons and bigger being at least able to damage a Titan and some boss-types if they're able to hit, like the Gladiator (who is just an old-school Hell Knight)
This whole video is just wank that oversells how strong the enemies in Doom are lmao. Yeah the demons are strong but they're not THAT strong, there's plenty of conventional weapons you use in Doom that kill the demons. Like shit, Cyberpunk alone has a lot of crazy powerful weapons that would absolutely demolish demons, and there are a lot of other strong figures mentioned in the lore that could handle them.
I know this isn't really relevant, but I can think of literally 1 instance where the word "decimate" was used correctly. In the 2005 rendition of Doctor Who, in the season 3 finale, The Master does actually give the literal command to "remove one tenth of the population", and actually uses the word decimate when he describes doing that.
Ironically out of all of his weapons, think Prophet's bow could actually be the most deadly one, since it's effectively a railgun powered by his immense strength.
i am not sure how his bow works, but actual bows do not become stronger in stornger hands. A strong-armed archer can draw them more easily, but maximum bow poundage depends on itsconstruction and not the archer themselves
@@sinistertwister686tell me you didn't played Crysis 3, without telling me you didn't played Crysis 3. His bow was designed to be only used with a nano suit, it has multiple fire mods(quick or slow) and arrow types (normal, explosive, flammable and EMP) and it allows him to stay in his cloak mode. So yes. The bow will be the most useful weapon.
@@sinistertwister686 Just take one look at the crazy stuff that happens in Crysis and you’ll see how a bow’s strength being determined by the archer is the least offensive thing done to physics.
@@GhoulBandit this isn't what I am arguing. I am arguing that bows are not "powered" by their users. Even if this bow has insane draw weight it still isn't powered by the archer.
@@rougarabid Yes, yes they did. And it only *DOOM* ed them more. they pissed off Doom Guy by killing Daisy, and they pissed off every single person who has played any of the DOOM games as well.
To summarise 9:50 doomguy is like the Orks from Warhammer. He believes he is stronger so he quite literally becomes stronger. And that belief extends to ANYTHING he views and uses as a weapon.
Survival Challenge suggestion: "Would These Sci-Fi Universes Survive The Flood From Halo?" You could do the Tyranids instead of The Flood, but I think the Flood would be more challenging while the Nids would be a bit more fair.
I'm not the most well versed to Halo lore, most of what I know comes from playing the first 2-3 games in coop with my friend on the last few days, but there's 2 things that comes in my mind. 1. Resistance wise, they pretty much don't resist gunfire much, they can be tanky but they're certainly not immune per se, so many universes wouldn't have a firepower issue, at least for ground combat. 2. I'm not sure how the flood infection would react to some of the more "unique" races of some universes, so that could be interesting to think about. Take the Zerg, due to their nature, assimilative, regenerative, with parasites of their own, would the flood be able to infect them, and if yes, would it even be to a similar degree to what we see in halo? All in all, a pretty interesting scenario I'm curious to see.
Essentially, the flood is a corrupted god, assume it can use any biomass, and if whatever has a nervous system, it can be infected, those are the rules.
Note. Atom smasher survived the explosion of arasaka which was used with a nuke and then he got even stronger than that with even more cybernetic enhancements. And if you read some of the extra stuff for the game and tabletop RPG there's a lot of weaponry that just the average person can get ahold of that's as strong if not stronger than tanks and there's plenty of weapons even stronger than that.
@Agencyagent34 I need to know how, the Slayer beat Davoth soundly, and Davoth was so powerful that his anger transformed the realm of Jekkad into Hell, which in Doom, is unbound by space and time
@@dc7981🤢 Ew. The Shadow rip-off. No thanks. We don't need Batman sparing Demons and putting them into verifiably corrupt prisons only so they can break free later.
@@TrashCanOdor don't forget demons are not the only thing hell has. They are just a part of the invasion. The real invasion is hell itself a higher dimensional LIVING BEING unlimited by space time or dimensions. So like the original comment said there is no chance.
I’m going to say that Borderlands possibly could survive since the weapons and grenades wackier effects summon mini suns and black holes and they throw those around like candy
Borderlands is an interesting one since characters are essentially immortal (not counting for story reasons) due to the New U stations. Loaders cannot be corrupted and can be built from nothing just like the characters. There are also plenty of people who are already insane so demon mind fuckery wouldn't work on them. They may not be able to deal with the big boys but they would probably just chalk that up to "Just another day on Pandora"
@owaine-changaming and even if they were I'm pretty sure the demons could just figure out how they keep coming back eventually and destroy all the new u stations
@owaine-changaming Digistruct technology is which can create incredibly powerful robots instantaneously. Also, the raid bosses we're not talked about at all. Those type of kaiju battles would be crazy against the titans.
If you've ever played The devil May cry games. You know that they could hold back the invasion because their father has held back a demon invasion before andante has gone into The demon world and done something similar alone
I love how you take both really well known and completely unheard of characters/series, it really expands the interest of the videos as well as the viewers 'palette' when it comes to games.
I would argue the destroyer is the strongest thing the borderlands universe has to offer since just opening a vault that only exposes a fraction of it cracked a massive part of Pandora’s surface open not to mention it is the only vault monster contained in a whole planet which also caused the ancient civilization which sealed it to be destroyed just so that it wouldn’t destroy the universe since it is said to “eat stars”.
I believe you underestimate Cyberpunk as a universe. Smasher and V are the strongest individuals, the strongest solos... but even they won't be able to take on the CERBERUS from "Somewhat Damaged" mission in the Phantom Liberty (since V can't fight it and this robot was made to work in the EXTREME conditions). And this robot is merely for maintance. There are actual militaries with actual robots run by AI and actual WMD etc.
@@matijasostojic4288 It was an outdated robot from 2010s. Secretive and pretty rare, but not unique and not even cutting-edge. And I am pretty sure that old Cyberpunk 2020 TTRPG had some even more bonkers shit that isn't supposed to be used be Solos... because its an actual military-grade gear. And, no, I believe Cyberpunk verse still loses this war. But it will hold its ground better than people think. The best chance would be to let all the insane AIs into the web and allow them access to all military hardware. It will ruin the planet for humans as well, so lose-lose codition
The Humans in doom could literally blow up planets with a single weapon. That's LEAGUES above anything that the Cyberpunk universe had, and they still got obliterated. The sentinels, with the help of a literal unbeatable warrior and giant mechs couldn't prevent their homes from getting invaded. The Khan Makyr, an immortal interdimensional being, had her home overtaken in mere seconds after the Icon of Sin broke free. Sorry, but V, Smasher, and the entirety of Night City wouldn't last a single day.
@@negative6442 They would not fair any better at all. They would arguably perform FAR worse than people think. Most super heavy demons can survive a point blank BFG shot to the face. a single Baron might take either V or Smasher alone
There is one borderlands mosnster that could kill the icon of sin at a minimum, and that is the destroyer, in bl3 nyriad claims that the destroyer learns from what it eats, and that thing has eaten lots of civalizations and typhon deleon claimed that the destroyer can EAT stars
For Borderlands, I do have to say there are a few Vault Monsters who can absolutely destroy planets, such as devouring planets, etc. (Though they would kill everyone on the Borderlands side as well...)
I mean... I know nothing about Darkwatch, but there's this trope where characters that are evil enough can't be corrupted any further. And evil Jericho sounds like he'd be that type of character.
Not sure if you're going to read this but in Borderlands the Pre-Sequel Hyperion had their own version of BFG 10000 (granted it fires much slower?/can be fired in one direction) and that was just from the severed eye of the destroyer. Now imagine if other companies got ahold of Vault monsters and start "upgrading" them. Also the Atlas Corporation has a mech that can go toe-to-toe against a teleporting Vault monster in Tales from The Borderlands. The mech can also forcabliy make the vault stay put wherever it may be in the universe. These mega corporations don't only specalize in guns some of them also specialize in shields, gernades, and artifacts. Some shields absorb bullets adding it to your ammunition, increase your physical power, or give you a massive health boost or shield boost, or increase the damage of your bullets as long as your shield is full. Don't get me started on the legendary weapons. The Vladof Corporation has an assault rifle that can shoot infinitly if it keeps hitting the critical spots of the enemy. Now imagine an army of thousands of people just firing these guns among a sea of demons.👀
One really cool matchup for the doom universe would be Xcom since they’re shown adapting the aliens technology and even improving on it themselves. Not a shooter so it wouldn’t fit the theme, but it’s a cool thought I had.
I would say honestly, the Ceph from Crysis are A LOT more terrifying than what we think. As they are at least a billion years old that seemingly developed a whole galaxy around them. And in the lore: "Ceph have such advanced technology that can create practically anything they can think of," the only reason they are on earth is to "mine" it yes the whole alien force you are fighting in that series is essentially a group of prospectors and the fact they were at the center of or cause a 50 megaton explosion this is not a military force its more like gardeners/miners. Not to mention, it is implied they already control one galaxy and may or may not control all of the Milky Way. I'm not saying they would win as DOOM makes it clear the Icon of Sin can't really be killed without the Crucible, but I would say at least the superheavys could probably be dealt with. As Prophet is not gonna be stopping a billion if not older alien empire by himself. If they can make anything they want (this includes adapting to threats), they could feasibly deal with at minimum the super heavies if not some boss level if not all of them. The God's are probably a no-go unless they can feasibly warp reality to their side, which I doubt. Long tangent aside doing this with the Halo universe, or 40k would be fun to see. As the Halo has two groups that can just rewrite reality and 40k is just so dang quirky. Not to mention having it's own demons and corruption.
I think a really important thing to think about in regards to the Borderlands universe...considering we have sirens that steal other peoples' life force, we have elements that mutate you and shit, it would be absolutely no stretch to imagine the Megacorps of Borderlands rapidly researching and using Argent Energy for themselves. Imagine an Argent Energy infused siren. Doom Humans made the BFG. What the HELL would Borderlands make with that level of power? Like we already have handheld nukes, shotguns that fire other shotguns, magic (if you take DLC as canon)...
Ratchet and Clank verse can survive demons pretty well, considering how adaptive Ratchet is, the fact he siphons energy from enemies he kills similarily to doomguy (his exp upgrade system is derived from taking nanotech and machinery from the blood of dead enemies as stated in the second game, which introduced health upgrades), he has a power up in RnC3 thats literally just berserk power up from doom (and the adamantine armor is inspired by doomguy). Clank being space jesus (yes, he is the son of god) and having quasi-eldrich energy and tech, I can see a mechanic to absorb argent from demons to replace Ratchet's nanotech stealing ability. Clank, being beyond time, could also use his abilities and control over the Zoni (who are a 4d+ hive mind who get stronger the more of them are summoned, to the point where 50 of them open a portal into the literal developer's studio). So Ratchet is: - furry doom guy - weapons can hurt demons without needing argent - physical attack potency in the 20 ton range - potential to steal argent with clank assistance - ability to siphon tech to heal - potential to reverse engineer demon tech - RYNO weapons can depopulate planets since the Ryno 4, there are 7 official RYNOs and 3 boot legs
This is 90% of what convinced me to buy Darkwatch. The other 10% was looking it up and finding out that High Moon did it. I ain't never clicked buy faster. Awesome vid, btw
Several things wrong with the demonic invasion bit (love the video btw) 1. Davoth did indeed create Jakkad and the other universes, but he also created the other races (namely the Makyrs) 2. Davoth loved his people and they prospered, but they were mortal, while Davoth was immortal. 3. He created the Makyrs to find a way to make his people immortal like him so he would not see them die in front of him. 4. The Makyrs did indeed find out how to make his people immortal, but deemed Davoth was too much of a wild card for such knowledge 5. The Makyrs then rebelled against their creator and succeeded in imprisoning him in Jakkad 6. Before he lost his physical form his rage literally changed his once beautiful kingdom into a hellish landscape 7. The demons are a mixture of naturally born demons and humans turned demon. For a human to become a demon, they must be taken to Nekravahl (I think that’s the place) to be tortured and brutally beaten until their spirit is broken. Once broken the humans are then sent to processing, where the souls are violently ripped from their bodies. Most of the souls turn into Argent Energy. The bodies are then thrown out where over time they slowly turn into demons. Love the video just wanted to point that out 😊 Edit: ok, I watched the video until the end of the demons section and everything he says was true. If anyone was mad at what I said I apologize
Small correction: if this is an invasion of Hell's forces into a non-DOOM universe, they probably wouldn't have access to the Cyber Mancubi (or Revenants for that matter) because those are products of the UAC.
So, Borderlands is my favorite game and I'm just gonna say it's VERY inconsistent in it's scaling. I think it's best feats come from BL3, in terms of power and hax. The vault Hunters are all seemingly relative to one another since anything one does in canon the others are there doing it alongside them. So for power, we have them obviously killing the destroyer, who is at the very least planet level as just waking it up would destroy Pandora. It would also pretty definitively be star level as a man who spent decades of his life on the planet of the beings who sealed it away declared it "literally eats stars." There's plenty of statements of being the strongest being in the universe and how it could wipe it out, but that could be an overtime destruction as nothing was strong enough to stop it. What is more definitive though is the hax. In the canon post game, the vault Hunters fight a being known as the Seer. It is an ancient eridian, and had the complete knowledge and oversight of history and the flow of space, time, and reality. The Seer said that the planned course of history, the predestined absolute nature of the universe, was completely ignored and bypassed by the vault Hunters, with main focus on the sirens and the Calypsos. It went so far as to call them acausel (probably not how that's spelled) and said that their actions not only bent the course of history, they shattered it. Not saying they win by any means, definitely with you on the idea they lose to the bigger baddies, but just some food for thought and some insight to some more scaling resources 👍
Doom 3 is still cannon, you can find the Doom 3 tablets and the soul cube in the evil ladies lab. It was basically just a hell invasion of another universe by a different Demon General or commander
@@blazkowicz_the_3rd810 yup, throughout the Doom multiverse both exist, all connected through one Hell! And I love how three different universes (at least) had the UAC. Doom Guy/Slayers original universe Doom Marines universe Then the Doom 2016/Eternal universe
And Doomguy just powers through them like a lawnmower over grass. Input reading is standard in a lot of games. Heck, I got cannon fodder psychos dodging bullets in Borderlands.
Things that I think are slight adjusters to mentioning, Cyberpunk: there is also another living legend that will turn up again in later games but played a prominent role in the table top and has some entires in the 2077 game that bring to mention that he’s still about if not in his previous full active solo work. Black hand. But again just is a third person at super heavy fighting strength not really much else to say on him but he would be another super heavy fighter on the cyberpunk side. There is also the old world Ai’s that are just sitting there but as you say the cyberpunk worlds hacking didn’t get past wifi and though some of those AI could be a problem as they try and work out a way to fight, they have got complacent living mostly ethereal lives that they aren’t likely beating bosses either no matter what great power they think of themselves as. Crisis: I’m not sure I’d side with you on him not being able to absorb the argent energy, it’s show to take the earthlings of doom universe barely a year to convert the energy type into useable format with all there tech and that just boosts them. It is thought made of souls it has been adjusted to really universal as to allow demon flesh and tech to use it as such I would side that prophet would likely be able to use it. But I think given the demons have fought doom guy, seeing a weaker but starting out machine rolling up the same path, they would seal him quick enough before he starts being able to become another thorn like doom guy. I also doubt he would become doom guys equal but I would have sided on him being able to absorb it just on how easy it was for earth to convert the energy. This isn’t souls as they are originally formatted for a body but them converted to a universal fuel that powers in a massively efficient way that is good for boosting the output of machines and flesh alike. I wouldn’t knock the demons inventiveness with that and say a mech couldn’t run it because it’s souls, not because crisis universe has met this kind of thing, but because dooms universe and there demons made this stuff to be just that universally awesome to help them incorporate and grow from there universe invasion plans. I don’t think either really changes the result by any significant factor, but they would be factors.
Everybody will likely say send V1 from Ultrakill but that would be too predictable. So I propose the Guardian from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. After that I shall suggest some cannonfodder. Those being Subject 612 from Trepang2 and the Combine Elite of Entropy Zero 2.
If this is taking place out of Doom universe, the icon a sin wouldn't be part of their force. It would still be imprisoned. As wood the Gladiator demon.
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To be honest, quite a few of the most powerful demons would likely be inaccessible for these invasions, and others would be much more difficult to come by. Davoth required Doomguy bringing him to Urdak in order to be unleashed. The Icon of Sin needed to be awakened by a Makyr ritual. Since the Hell Priests aren't involved, that leaves out the Doom Hunters since there's no Deag Ranak to create them. Maybe the Gladiator would be used if the demons figured out how to get it out of Argent D'nur, but I don't know if they could. that leaves the Spider Mastermind and the Cyberdemon as the biggest powerhouses in the Demonic arsenal- still powerful, but *much* more manageable. Another thing to consider is just how limited the Super-Heavy demons actually are. Sure there's more than one, but compared to the lesser demons, there really aren't that many of them. Heck some of them didn't even participate in either of the invasions of Doomguy's reality. The biggest problem, in my mind, is the sheer numbers the demons possess, and even then that's not much of an issue as over the course of, what, four engagements, Doomguy was able to destroy the vast majority of the Demons on Earth. Sure they can show up wherever they want, but the more territory that they have to conquer, the more thinly their forces will be spread, thus making it easier to pick them off one by one. The only real issue I see aside from the boss demons is the Arch-Viles due to their ability to summon more demons at will, but that ability requires a great deal of time, and again- *there aren't that many of them.*
Right off the rip, I clicked on this video expecting idiotic make believe nonsense, but was blasted with a good summarization of the doom universe that I never was able to to grasp while playing the game, thank you right off the rip for that.
@@rougarabidyea you did and you downplayed the destroryers power and your arguments on cyberpunk while sound just show you know very little about the lore of the world. I don't think cyberpunk would win i just know you dont know a lot because you everything you said was either only kinda true or completely wrong.
@rougarabid I mean you did but you downplayed the destroyer by absolutely orders of magnitude. I'm genuinely wondering where you heard it was only a galactic threat. I'm pretty sure lore of borderlands 3 species (erridians) that it was responsible for wiping out in order to seal it was literally scanning the entire universe for something that could stop it and couldn't find anything 😂😂😂 Look, I understand you don't like borderlands 3's main story but the lore in it is fucking cracked 😂
I think you underestimate how broken borderlands Shields are considering that they block mag dumps from their op weapons. Not that it changes the resoult too much. It's just worth considering since it would make almost any shmuck capable of surviving long enough to use their guns against the demons, which is often one of the problems. Its also worth considering how Canon respawns are. I don't think they are but they are mentioned in universe so its not impossible
Scaling the Doom Slayer is kind of impossible tbh. He is basically the Saitama of his universe. Canonically, he has never lost a fight, and even while sleeping for hundreds of years, the demons still couldn't hurt him.
@Jane-qh2yd That's simply untrue. To say anything is impossible to scale even. Even Saitama took actual damage in his fight with Boros in the Manga, and Doom Eternal makes it pretty clear that Davoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other, Davoth literally created him after all, and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa "avoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other" You have no proof for that. Canonically, we don't know if the Slayer ever takes damage during their fight, especially since in the cutscene, he had taken no damage, nor did he show any fatigue. "and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him." We have no idea why he passed out. We know the Slayer was created in his image, but we don't know if that means they are equal in strength (Which they literally aren't), it just means one needs the other for power
@Jane-qh2yd the father basically says it at the end of doom eternal. "By his hand, all things were made, even you." And then Slayer passes out. Context clues suggest that he absolutely went into an eternal coma because of the dark lord's death. Doom Slayer may be superior to Davoth, but he is also still very clearly limited. So unless new info gets added, it'd be safe to assume that Doom Slayer is only marginally superior to Davoth.
So a couple things I would say about just the general concept of the video: So most of the setup I am fine with but I think including The Dark Lord and The Icon of Sin Would be in the invasion and that the universes HAVE to beat them especially the Dark Lord Davoth. So for the Icon of Sin he was only released to destroy Earth as a final chance to stop the Doom Slayer, this was because the Khan Maykr basically feared for their life and their universe so he was released to STOP THE DOOM SLAYER SPECIFICALLY, for Davoth I feel like he should not be included because he has very specific beef with The Doom Slayer and wouldn't care for these other verses stuff going on,. But to my main problem: You are undermining the borderlands universe! or at least not taking some really powerful things up! 1: Shields: It is pretty small compared to everything that's why this is first but... Shields in the Borderlands Universe aren't just health boosts but a separate entity that doesn't have passthrough, so anyone using a shield would be able to take one argent strike. 1: Digistruct: Now I am not going to explain that the Vault Hunters can come back infinitely, mostly because that the respawn mechanic is none cannon. BUT here is the thing where they can make infinite loader bots (At least loader bots, I don't think of other powerful bots for an explanation later!) So why do I think it is infinite? Well both because there is no lore saying otherwise and the gameplay and story kind of show that! The economy of the world is all out of whack guns costing tens up to hundreds of millions showing that raw material means nothing! This is also shown by the Tediore company being able to sell digistruct guns that don't cost a sent to reload. Another reason I think digistruct can make infinite raw materials and loader bots is because in the lore think of anytime something is a valuable resource? It is either A: A unique mineral never seen before/is extremely rare (Examples being Erdian, Moonstones or Seraph Crystals) or B: Something of cultural or technological greatness (Vault Keys being a primary one) and these both can't just be made easily! The only limiting factor I could see to digistructing is computational power. Loader Bots are simple but a Saturn Bot would need actual time to build, though you could make an infinite amount you still need a base to assemble them! Loader Bots you would just need a generator and a digistruct device. So the borderlands Universe has an infinite army of bots on the same level as at least imps. I feel this could definitely help ease the pains of dealing with excursions coming up and dealing with the hoards of smaller enemies letting the Vault Hunters breathe more. 2: Legendary doesn't equal Unique: This goes hand in hand with my last point, Most Legendary guns aren't special they aren't one of a kind, so the Borderlands Universe doesn't only have an infinite army of Loader Bots but can have an Infinite army of Loader Bots with Shredfirem, Business Calls and DEPAS (Double Penetrating Unkempt Harolds) with fastballs as grenades and shields. I feel like its also has to go without saying, when it comes to the universe coming to an end money is no matter. 3: Sirens (At Least going off the lore and story hints we have seen so far) are resistant to corruption: In the borderlands Universe it is pretty much stated that Sirens are the only true makers of choice and free will in the Borderlands universe, for them they are the epitome of freedom nothing being able so I feel they would be able to resist corruption from the demons because a corrupted version of you isn't you.... a corrupted siren seem antiparticle to sirens..... Also if you don't want to accept that in the Borderlands 3 DLC Love Guns and Tentacles all of the Vault Hunters can easily resist the corrupting aura of the vault monster and cult of the planet, even if you want to say they didn't stay long enough on the planet the Hunters literally made contact with the still beating heart of the monster so I feel they had to deal with some potent fuckery. 4: Troy can also get to the power level of Tyreen: Yes Troy doesn't realize that he can leach other creatures at the beginning but that doesn't mean he doesn't have that power, and with what I believe as was stated before the Borderlands Universe could have two Icon of Sin level creatures on their side. BUT THAT IS ALL SMALL CAKES WHEN WE COME TO THE LAST ACE THE BORDERLANDS UNIVERSE HAS.... 3: THE DESTROYER: So the first thing to get out of the way, How would the destroyer get out of Pandora? Option 1: Tyreen and Troys plan was to unleash The Destroyer, with a slight change of plans because of the demons they could easily just release the beast onto the hoards. 2: The Destory has a feeding mechanism that if not used to feed the destroyer would cause him to escape the prisoner needs to be fed or he will break that! 3: The Demons doing to Pandora what they did to earth would easily break The Destroyer out. So we covered how The Destroy would get out! Now power scaling. The Destroy has destroyed countless galaxy spanning civilizations, forced one of the smartest civilizations to commit SOUP OF SIDE (Family friendly :) he is strong, Some other things The Destroyer gains the intelligence of any creature he has eaten, so imagine all the brilliant minds of the multiple galaxies, these civilizations best military generals, eons of collective knowledge, millions of albert Einstiens in one AT MINUM earth sized monster, though the destroy was described to eat stars so take the size as you will, if The Destroy eats even one Marauder it would be over truly in tactical planning. One eye of The Destroy ONE would be able to destroy a moon ONE EYE JUST ONE and The Destroyer IS AT MINIMUM PLANET SIZE.... THAT EYE WASN'T EVEN A PERCENT OF THE DESTROY NOT EVEN A DROP OF THE DESTROYER.... The Destroyer would wipe any demon including the Icon of Sin. Let's also not forget to mention the destroyer when in its full form is immortal. I also want to go over some points you may use to disprove The Destroyer's power: 1: The original Vault Hunters were able to drive it back! False they were able to drive on mouth back in a weakened state (Specifically Designed to feed and not let out), 2: The Warrior is so weak compared to The Destroyer, This is for people who didn't go through all of the lore for 3, but a reminder The Warrior at the end of 2 was not supposed to control or even fight The Destroyer he was meant to prevent people from opening Pandora it self... Basically a Glorified Bodyguard. 3: Tyreen after consuming The Destroyer was killed: So without trying to be to much fan theory I am pretty sure it is explained that Tyreen wasn' brought up to The Destroys status as much as The Destroyer was brought down to hers... Also I don't believe Tyreen could eat The Destroyer that fast not going to lie. So would I say the Borderlands Universe could win against a Doom Invasion? Maybe, 100 percent if Davoth wasn't included, Would I say it's a traditional win? Not really to win against the Invasion the Hunters would have to doom their galaxy but either way The Destroyer gets out even after the Hunters are gone... In the End it comes down to The Destroyer vs a Doom invasion... and I say like 55/45 Doom to Borderlands. Also I would love to have a FRIENDLY debate on this! Maybe in this comment thread or on Discord so please do tell. I would also just be happy with you respoing to this comment as well!
Ngl bro, the Cyberpunk universe gets obliterated, and so do most other universes in here. The Doom Earth that was invaded had superior technology compared to anyone in this list. Remember, most of the slayer's arsenal was built by the UAC, including the BFG. If a society with giant mechs and literal planet destroying weapons were completely powerless against the invasion, nobody here is living longer than a day
Not unless something like the Khan Maykr or Icon of Sin decide to join in. Very much questionable statement that one, Doom Earth is full of a bunch of chumps. Weaponry is pointless if you get turned into paste before you can even use it. Cyberpunk universe has basically everyone augmented so they're already stronger than the average UAC soldier.
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My problem with using Edgerunners as a baseline for Cyberpunk is that 2077 comes after the KRASH which means that 90% of the verses most powerful tech from 2020 isn't there anymore. Including Smashers most powerful suit. The cyberskeleton is literally babystuff compared to Older ASPA suits
That’s not relevant to Edgerunners. The KRASH was in 2022 and ER takes place in 2076 one year before CP77. All feats that happen in ER are equivalent to that of 77.
@rougarabid That I understand, my apologies I should've worded it better. 2077 and Edgerunners (2076) represent Cyberpunk past its own golden era, so to speak. But it makes sense to use them since that is the most recent media related to it they just don't do a great job of explaining the Universes ridiculous power since they're separated from the tabletop where the real fun is.
@@rougarabidanother thing when it comes to cyberpunk. Maxtec. Cyber psychos that cap V with ease. If V can Kill smasher, and a normal Maxtec Squad absolutely destroys V. I feel like the Cyberpunk Universe can fair a bit better than just V and Smasher vs the invasion.
@@MelloTheJester Theres a lot of weapons in 2020 that can rival the stuff that doomguy uses lmao. Like the anti-borg railgun, the .666 Hellbringer Magnum, the CLAW shotgun, rocket hammer, rocket launchers, 20mm autocannons, etc etc. Cyberpunk characters would fair pretty well against the demons
It's not a shooter, but the Kirby Universe could get really, really, really far into the invasion. Only the Icon of Sin and Davoth can maybe pose a challenge to him and his friends, and only Davoth could debatably stand a chance of winning.
@@dgagamingaesir Kirby alone has taken on numerous planetary, galactic, and universal threats, and Kirby and his friends took on Void Termina, a multiversal deity of destruction described as the source of all things. His world is at least making it to the fight against Davoth.
Doom Slayer is insanely fast but takes his time because he enjoys it. In comes V1 who has no concept of “fun” just “YUMMY YUMMY BLOOD” and stomps the armies of hell.
@@TENOZILIA They only turn to ash because lorewise the Slayer is the only one able to permanently kill them via absorption after putting them down… and have you even played either game series? In DOOM the demons _splatter and explode_ into blood and guts. V1 would have a _field_ day. Both the Slayer and V1 have taken on way bigger, way stronger, _way faster_ than a silly Marauder or something as weak as the Gladiator. V1 has solo’d Earthshaker mini-cities, parried punches from the Corpse of King Minos- a Godzilla-size opponent- and has dealt with opponents like Minos Prime and Sisyphus Prime whose speed is so ridiculous that you can’t see them dash. They pretty much teleport. If you played, let alone watched gameplay, it’s clear.
@@TENOZILIA V1 literally thrives on enemies that spurt less blood than DOOM’s demons. With so many slow, lumbering bloodbags- V1 will not only survive, but *_thrive._*
The destroyer would do damage, he is literally an eater of civilization... advanced ones sure he is more than capable doing something insane and if I am right he goes stronger each time. More of a force of nature at this point
Ok, can the world of ultrakill survive a demon invasion Well, first, let's get some stuff right: ultrakill happens entirely on hell, the entire gameplay is on hell Humanity is already dead, there's already demons, and in ultrakill they're actually demons So, is Doom's hell actual hell or just a different dimension/universe called hell?
If i had to merge the two i would mostl Likley made it so ultarkill hell was created by the father who would be the ultrakill god and the reason He is gone in ultrakill is becuse he is in the life sphere
I think you underestimated post Crysis 3 Prophet. The guy had his suit limitations lifted during the events of the third game making him an unrestricted nanoswarm that just so happens to be human shaped. The games did a disservice towards showing off the suit's full potential. With the restrictions lifted and the right upgrades Prophet could very well become a discount planetary annihilation commander. That can also break the sound barrier while hitting with the force of a greek god.
@@FulKnightwe know that the bugs on Hoxxes evolve at scary speeds to adapt to things so they most likely get some sort of evolution that would deal with things. And the dwarves are dwarves. They are so dense they won’t die. They might even create a alcohol canon filled with black out stout who knows
Overwatch would be interesting actually. At first I thought they're cooked, but damn if you take all the in game heroes as well as the bad guys armies (talon, sector zero) the junkers and omnics and whatnot, all lore accurate, that would be insanely good
@@JoshNotJohn0 Nah, Fallout wins by the protags of Fallout New Vegas, and Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 for that matter, just using weaponry that by all logic, cannot exist. I mean, look me in the eyes, and tell me that the Lone Wanderer wouldn't make a semi-auto pipe pistol that shoots mini-nukes. Which, by the way, are a condensed down version of a somewhat more powerful nuke than modern day nuclear warheads, and still way less powerful than the nukes used to cause the Fallout in the first place. Fallout New Vegas' courier, just gets Yes Man's help, and Fallout 3's protag, just uses the mothership, from the Mothership Zeta DLC. It's that simple. Also, you cannot tell me that the Cesar's Legion wouldn't be able to handle at least some of the fodder enemies.
@@fr3y438 I mean, yeah, the weaponry works well but I think the courier would just do a bunch of turbo, slow down time to a standstill, and wreck everything in sight.
Bro, I remember Darkwatch. My brother and I played it together when we were young. It's probably something we shouldn't have played then, but still. It was fun.
Cyberpunk has the Blackwall, which for those who aren't aware is a sort of digital hell where rogue AI are somewhat imprisoned/live. As we discover with phantom liberty, these AI can escape and inhabit machines. At full power and with no restriction, you'd likely end up with an army of extremely aggressive machines of varying sizes. If the doom universe mixed in to this, it'd be like a scaled down 40k event.
Thing is the machines need net connection so they could only posses Cyberpunk universe machinery. This would still make Alt the strongest entity in-universe if she were allowed back through the blackwall.
On Cyberpunk, I think another problem the universe would run in to are people willingly selling their bodies/souls to the demons. You can't tell me Maelstrom wouldn't take one look at the demons and go "Yeah, I'll have what he's having" if it meant they could become more powerful.
@@FulKnight And now scary though, imagine if demons could control Oldest House. If I remember oldest house right, wasn't it access to every places and every possible time?
You did forget that there is another Siren they have access to during BL3, Tannis. She has the power to alter how tech functions and stuff, though I don't think the outcome will change, it would significantly help them out. Also, Salvador against the Doom demons would be fun as hell since you would likely never run out of Gunzerk. And if we have the weapons of Borderlands that means we could have the Pimperhab build or some other broken build.
I'm imagining you explaining this in a presentation setting to a modern day military group and its perfect, theyre all just staring slack jawed as you're causally explaining how extremely devastating everything is. 😂😂😂😂
I feel like if maxxed V or Adam Smasher could go Cyberpsycho, they'd be able to go MUCH further. I know thats impossible, but hypothetically, it would make them far more powerful. Ridiculously more powerful, really.
We’re also forgetting Maxtec. Even a maxed V can get stomped by them. Or the phantom liberty boss tank thing. That fucker is from the 2010s In their universe if I’m not mistaken. Imagine 67 years later In 2077 the things In the vault that could be infinitely stronger than the tank V fights In Phantom Liberty. While the Cyberpunk universe definitely can’t fight back forever. They have a much better chance than simply “Smasher and V”
@@glasss-o-water5186 Maxtac are much weaker than 2076-77 Smasher and super V in lore given how they were effortlessly wiped by Martinez. That being said you're right, imagine if Alt was let back through the blackwall she could singlehandedly possess multiple tanks like the one in Phantom liberty becoming the strongest entity that can't even be destroyed.
The biggest benefit to the Cyberpunk world is that everyone can can be augmented to easily kill the fodder. There is the side effect of going psycho, but they will still be attacking the demons. Numbers matter.
Borderlands wouldn’t need to fight back claptrap would just ask to be friends with the demons and they would develop the ability to fear so they can be afraid of being seen with him and then leave the universe
You said the borderlands universe doesn’t have any hacks or hack resistance but I’d argue that the new-u stations would classify as a hack. Those machines essentially make the main characters immortal. They would respawn just like the demons only faster. For the boss fights in the borderlands universe as long as one player is left alive while the others respawn the bosses health doesn’t reset. So they might be able get a little further than you think IF they work together.
1:07:28 And another thing is even though she has life absorption and energy absorption there is a limit probably due to the cosmologies and dimensionality scaling but we’re not getting into that
V from cyberpunk I could see surviving. Especially if you go off cyberpunk lore for powers along and not just the game. I mean Adam smasher survived nukes, took down entire divisions of augmented soldiers. I mean I'm talking hundreds to a thousand augmented soldiers. And V took him out. Not to mention the weaponry and augments are insane. I would say it depends on the build but a combat centered V would survive. Would he thrive like doomslayer? Probably not, I don't think he would become hells boogeyman. Could he survive the invasion of earth though? Yeah probably. The others on this list I don't know. Mostly because I don't know enough about them because I haven't played the games. The real question to me is other ID properties. Could the guy from the original quake survive? I think he's got a good chance, he was on par with the original doom marine who is canonically the doom slayer. Would Billy blaskowicz survive? I'd say a hesitant maybe. He is doom slayers grandpa (great grandpa? I can't remember) and that is Canon. It makes me wonder if that kinda rage runs in the family
"And those weapons are no that effective to the demons..." - about the Crysis weapons. I dunno about that. Standard assault rifle? Sure. But the Doomguys assault rifle, with rocket popup system, is essentially just a heavy machinegun. And those are available in the Crysis universe aplenty. RPGs are also fairly effective on demons if you score hits with them (probably not as useful against the faster buggers). Prophet's ability to regenerate rapidly and his stealth would be great assets for tactical play versus Doomguy's straight up rage filled assault.
Argent Energy is nearly, if not, equivalent to *ABSOLUTE HOT* . Lasers and Nukes are worthless against the demons. Only the good ol' *RIP AND TEAR* can get the job done. Prophet had the right idea. Unfortunately, he's not that guy(Doom Slayer).
One neat idea with Cyberpunk too would be the nature of modification and growth. If V is talented enough, taking argent energy and using it to fuel their own cybernetics could allow them to hack into demons, at the cost of slowly (or rapidly) being corrupted. It'd be a gamble, honestly. Hard to say, with how vague corruption is. Plus, there's the idea that, with the demonic incursion, Arasaka will be in it's best interest to drop the capitalism and start mass-distributing their most powerful augs to people. Even if the mind can't handle it, a cyber-psycho dying, dragging down a fuckton of demons with it is preferable to possession. And a possessed cyber-psycho wouldn't even know how to *use* it's own augments. It's even possible that if Arasaka isn't immediately wiped out - which I don't think they will be so easily, since it took a supped-up V just to do that - they would likely very quickly weaponize ardent energy, as even mankind was able to do that relatively fast. I will say though, the other Super-heavies will be a major problem. Archviles in particular would be atrocious for them. Summoners that can create fire so hot it can melt metal? All the augmentations in the world mean nothing when they're superheated to the point they fry your skin from the inside out.
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Epic battle fantasy 5 vs doomguy demon invasion be interesting
If you want another idea like this I would like to see survival characters or just any video game characters in the constant
Judging from how you described Prophet, I would say that he would have to adopt 1 of 2 methods to turn the tide in his favor. Either he waits for DOOM tech to be developed by the humans like it was in DOOM, giving him things like the BFG, but also allowing him to possibly harness argent energy in the same way they must have done it. Or he ditches his dead host body and physically takes over a demon. As for the Cyberpunk universe, we see a lot of the Miltech Corpo Mercenaries, police, and Arasaka assassins. They're all probably on par with whatever is a step above fodder. They might be able to give V and Adam Smasher could maybe have a sort of faction battle against demons. I know it's MCs vs. the invasion but in Cyberunk's case it might be more realistic to assume that the MCs aren't alone. Stellar video, really got me thinking
We've seen the champion titan's corpse which is 2000 feet tall if it is proportional to normal titans based off his head.
I've used decimate properly... And it frustrates me with how many people don't
Honestly, a lot of the Borderlands universe is legitimately spiteful enough to unleash The Destroyer as a hail-mary for no other reason than to deny the Demons' conquest. It is explicitly stated to have the ability to destroy the entire universe if fully released. If worse came to worse and the Hunters and Corps were backed into the proverbial corner, they can just drop Elpis onto Pandora and let The Destroyer do its thing.
They'll all be dead, and their universe will be annihilated, but it would also prevent the Demons from fully winning.
The demons would kill the destroywe, raise it as a new demon, finish their conquest and move on.
@@dgagamingaesir You're misunderstanding what The Destroyer is. It's not alive in the conventional sense. It's an interdimensional lovecraftian force of nature. Its presence alone literally burns the fabric of the universe. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that The Destroyer _is_ the concept of destruction given physical form, much like how Davoth and the Demons may be collectively considered Conquest and Ambition given physical form.
Every time we've faced it, it was an incomplete or partially-awakened being that held a fraction of a fraction _of a fraction _*_of a fraction_* of its full strength. Every time we "kill" it, we've simply delayed and distracted it enough so the Prison it should be trapped in can re-close the seal.
The reason why it's trapped is because the Eridians were completely incapable of killing it. Their Vaults are capable of materializing weapons from across time and space, yet they were forced to sacrifice their entire race in order to seal it away because no weapon that does or will exist in the entirety of space and time is or will be capable of killing it.
The Destroyer will probably not destroy the Demons, but it will destroy the entirety of the Borderlands Universe and kill anyone and anything inside of it by simply existing there. The Demons may just be sent back to Hell after their deaths, but the universe they were killed in will simply be gone.
@@sputnikmann6541 And tbh the khan maykr can just recreate the universe like what she offered to do for doomguy.
She has no reason to but yk..
Demons: Oh no! A universe is gone!
Anyway,
@@BreadTeleporter1968 It wouldn't be about beating the demons at that point, it would be about not letting them fully win.
It would be a massive, spiteful middle finger from an entire universe of insane, suicidal assholes.
The Icon of Sin watching in horror when a dude from Pennsylvania throws a bar of soap at them:
DUSK dude solos the Doom Universe
@@cheesegoblin8850lmao
I still love that David Symanzki added that as a joke, left it there thinking nobody was gonna find it, and then when people found it he just left it there like "oh yeah I forgot about that lol"
@@cheesegoblin8850 with the bar of soap 😔
Ah, you would think so, but the bar of soap doesn't work on final bosses.
“The khan maykr has been around demons for millions of years and doesnt seem to corrupted” my brother she sacrifices planets to hell so her people dont die
"That's not corruption! It's...uh...negotiation! yea that's it."
@@bendystrawz2832 she needs to do it because hell produces the energy they use to be themselves, if they don't use that energy, they mutate
I'm not sure why, but for some reason, the image of Doomguy picking up a new Glock at a store only to slay a god with it is a pretty hilarious image.
Yeah his guns are also weaker then his punch because he wants them to suffer.
The 4x damage does nothing to him whereas it kills everyonr who uses it. And again, it's him just deciding to boost his weapons even more.
Like how the rage melee his him just decided to be more efficient and less of a torturer.
@@poutineausyropderable7108 Apparently, he doesn't canonically have to use guns. It's mostly just a gameplay feature, I believe. However, his guns are shown to scale with his powers because of the divinity machine.
My favorite bit of Doomguy lore is that he uses guns because he loves them, and they are actually slower than using his fists
He could also procure some of Glock's other offerings and have a decent chance
What is cooler, casting *FIST* or *GUN* ?
Truly a question for the ages 🤔
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Is he still around by the time of 2077? It was like 50 post the ttrpg so he might not be around
@@SpacePompadour It is implied he is. He doesn't have a drink in the Afterlife after all, and to have one you need to be dead.
Plus cyberpunk characters typically have longer lifespans. Just look at Saburo Arasaka's 158 years or Hanako looking 30 despite being 78. Medicine in cyberpunk works miracles for life extensions assuming you can afford it with the lifestyle of a corpo or a badass edgerunner solo.
He quite literally doesn't exist...no feat...no appearance..nothing...so yea no point discussing him
@@kiro253 Op said "everything was canon." Therefore, just because he isn't in 2077 doesn't mean he isn't somewhere else. Under that logic, V should not be a thing then. L take.
Considering that Doom humanity did reverse engineer argent energy into their otherwise Earth based tech, shouldnt it mean the Prophet who's entire deal is adaptive nanomachines be able to do the same after coming into contact with it?
Probably
That’s a good point
Agreed
I don't think he would be able to do that before he gets sealed because there is at least over 1000 demons
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Considering that Prophet is a master tactician, has stealth tech and is stronger than the majority of the grunts, I think he should survive long enough to adapt.
As soon as I heard you had the invasions in the verse and not in the doom verse I knew it was over. They can’t deal with the icon of sin. There’s no crucible
He skipped out on A LOT
Higher demons can chill in hell and posess /mentallyattack people in different universes without respite.
A single archphile can resurrect all killed demons.
A summoner can send out an omnidirectional lazarus wave.
Higher demons can shrug off nuclear bombs easily.
Gore nests create inverse quantum fields that tear apart spacetime.
And so on.
Back in my day you killed the icon of sin the old fashioned way, by shooting at it until it dies!
No but really, you can still fill it with lead.
And while that may not kill it, it will give you ample time to close the portal allowing it and hell through, or to contain the icon in some way like the makyrs did in eternal.
@@AnimatedTerror It won't work. Maykers had heart of son of Traitor who was the mind of the Icon, after Doom Slayer destroyed it, even Maykers couldn't contro, Icon
@@AnimatedTerror nah, you kill John Romero.
Step one: Kill John Romero
Step two: win the game
We are leaving out several major factors in Boarderlands. The scale and ease of instant manufacturing of killer robots, cloning being easy access and quick with all your memories and combat experience in tact and every single person in that universe has multiple guns on them at all times would make it a nightmare for the demon's to try and take over especially when so many normal psychos are likely just as powerful as an Imp and the planets are full of them.
If you are refering to the NewYou Stations with the cloning thing then no they do not. The NewYou Stations are not a cannon thing that exist in universe for the Borderlands Games. They are simply there as part of a game mechanic so that you don't have to reload a save if you die outside a boss fight.
Other than that I am in full agrement with you.
@@kahnathara6542 my friend. New you stations might not be cannon....but *digistructing* IS.
Digitised items immidiately being constructed like hyperion loaders, Gaige's Deathtraps, axton's turrets, all the catch a ride stations are all proof that yes, digital to phisical, instantanious printing exists.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 I am more than willing to admit that I could be wrong, but as far as I can remember Digistruct tech does not work with organic material like flesh and bone. Which means that cloning is still not a thing. And Digistruct tech is also why I agreed with chakat on everything else in the first place.
@@kahnathara6542 sorry lad, i might have phraised it in a hostile way!
You are a 100 percent in the right, just wanted to point out the tech itself still exists, and functions. (With your already stated limitation)
Just might've put it down in the wrong way.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 You're good, I didn't take what you said in a hostel fashion, and I didn't mean to come across as hostel myself if I did. It is hard for me to tell if someone is purposely being hostel or not when I can't actually hear them, so no hard feelings or anything.
Quick Crysis lore. In the first game you play as nomad, then in the second game you play as Alcatraz, Alcatraz wearing prophet’s nano suit, in between Crysis two and three Alcatraz gets so traumatized that Prophet takes control if Alcatraz’s body
Also he is forgetting the best strategy in crysis two and three against the Ceph. Rocket launch spam. In crysis your melee speed never changes but the damage does so get the rocket launcher and melee has fast as you can against Ceph, it won’t work against Cell
I hate being that kind of person but
ALL lasers travel at highspeed, they're all made of light.
Classifications like "chemical laser" or "fiber laser" refer to how it is generated.
For example a chemical laser uses a chemical reaction to power the lught beam.
Nuclear lasers are the most metal.
They are powered by the radiation released by a nuclear explosion that energizes the lasing material and firing an EXTREMELY powerful beam for mere fractions of a second before the whole thing is turned into a very angry ball of plasma.
I understand. I just don't know if the authors/creators of fiction know what they're doing when they show characters dodging such.
Davoth be chilling till a gopro beats him with some spare change
Davoth 1 shots
The gopro and his verse gets foddersized.
Sure, V1 can take on Earthmovers and the Corpse of King Minos, but I doubt it can damage even one normal Hell Titan, because in order to even damage one of them, you'll need Wraith or Argent Energy to even get it to penetrate through the skin. So technically, V1 can't really kill even one DOOM Hell Titan with its weapons. Sure, V1 can dodge and parry, using his guns will be about as effective as throwing pebbles at a tank.
V1 is just a machine. He would get torn to pieces by the 'heavy' and 'super heavy' demons of the Doom universe, just like what happened to Samuel Hayden.
@@significancedry6627ok but like in ultrakill v1 manages to hurt Gabriel.
He manages to hurt a biblically accurate Angel! Dooms demons are more sci fi nowadays but ultrakill is more connected to Dante’s inferno and therefore the abrahamic god who is capable of all things.
Yeah V1 managed to cause Gabriel to bleed. This actually scared Gabriel because like, you know that shouldn’t be possible.
But he did it. Dooms demons are tough but if V1 comes along it’s game over.
V1 is literally built different.
35:20 debatably Adam smasher wouldn’t be affected by the soul ripping because it’s arguable wether he even has a soul anymore or if through all his augments he’s now just effectively an ai that thinks of itself as “Adam smasher” probably wouldn’t matter in the end, but an interesting thought.
I mean V's soul is basically already being corrupted by Johnny. So if they suck the rest of V's soul out than you have Johnny to deal with and since he's a construct he probably can't get sucked out of the body.
I think Adam smasher would just switch to hell side considering his character and well he’d go from A corporate solider to literal demon commander why would he turn that down if that would end up well for him I can’t say but I believe he would join them willingly
Argent can infect AI I think.
@@StarSteve681 I’m almost certain he’s gonna volunteer to become something along the lines of the Doom Hunter, Dread Knight, Marauder, etc.
@@StarSteve681 "damn, arasaka ain't shit."
I would like to say that, regular weapons would in fact work on the demons. That's exactly what happened in the original Doom and Doom 2 and Doom 64, a long time before the Slayer acquired his Divinity powers, he was just a man with a gun. This alone would move every universe, including our own, at least up to partial Super Heavy status, as you could just throw Carl Gustaf/AT-4/Javelin rounds at Barons, Doom Hunters, and Tyrants until they died (just like you could in the original, enough rockets will kill anything). Archie would be a problem due to his shield and his summoning, and the Marauder would be the hard cap for most universes just due to his impenetrable shield and speed.
The biggest problem and why you see Earth's military and the ARC getting shellacked is the SHEER NUMBERS of the demons and their ability to corrupt/possess people, not necessarily their durability or hitting power. If you notice, most of the giant Jaeger-sized mechs (both Sentinel and ARC) are mostly intact but non-operational. I have an idea that a lot of them had their crew killed by thousands of fodder swarming the mech and getting inside or by their crew becoming corrupt/possessed.
Argent Energy didn’t exist in the original Doom games. Remember Doomguy went back in time Billions of years and introduced the Maykrs to the Demons. This lead to the creation of Argent energy and a MASSIVE power increase to the demons. In that original timeline Earth was able to fight off the demons in the first city they invaded. In the new timeline even with Samuel building giant mechs and giving humanity Sentinel technology they were still overwhelmed in a few weeks. The demons in Eternal are not the same as the ones in the OG games.
@@rougarabid I don't think there's any evidence for the Slayer going back in time. Since the demons and Hell itself is pretty much timeless, I was under the impression that he was trapped in Hell after the 64 version for an untold amount of "time" until he popped out a portal into Argent D'nur at roughly the same time that he effectively entered Hell in his own universe (since he didn't age and was more or less the exact same physically, even in his old gear which would have fallen apart just from time if it flowed normally), putting his Earth and the new Earth on roughly the same tech level.
Secondly, we can see the still functioning energy (presuming plasma) turrets at the ARC base and the UAC Phobos facility shooting Cacodemons out of the sky, which means that at least something equivalent to a plasma gun's output in energy can hurt and destroy them.
Third, we can see very clearly the skeletons of dead demons in the Eternal E3 teaser, (The one where it shows the Slayer crushing the skull of a demon that an Imp had knocked from it's skeleton) implying that something was able to kill them before the Slayer arrived.
@@ericstone2318he’s reliving the invasion of Earth from the original Doom games. He’s back in time in Earth’s universe not Hell’s.
@@rougarabid So you're saying the E3 teaser is him reliving the events of Doom 2, so why are there Hell tentacles, and the new version of the Arachnotron with the top mounted plasma cannon, and the Hellborn Baron with the arm blades, and his shotgun has the meathook. Not to mention that you see several freshly dead (no decay/skeleton) demons including a prominent Imp. Also, what could have hit that demon hard enough to skeletonize it, because it wasn't there long enough to decay naturally.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that most firearms will work on fodder and some heavies (squishy bags like the Cacodemon, Arachnotron's exposed brain), while higher caliber and anti-material type weapons will work on most heavies and maybe one super heavy (Archie), with anti-tank weapons being able to work on most almost every demon besides the Marauder, the Titans, and the Boss monsters, with something like a 2,000lb bomb,16in battleship cannons and bigger being at least able to damage a Titan and some boss-types if they're able to hit, like the Gladiator (who is just an old-school Hell Knight)
This whole video is just wank that oversells how strong the enemies in Doom are lmao. Yeah the demons are strong but they're not THAT strong, there's plenty of conventional weapons you use in Doom that kill the demons. Like shit, Cyberpunk alone has a lot of crazy powerful weapons that would absolutely demolish demons, and there are a lot of other strong figures mentioned in the lore that could handle them.
I know this isn't really relevant, but I can think of literally 1 instance where the word "decimate" was used correctly. In the 2005 rendition of Doctor Who, in the season 3 finale, The Master does actually give the literal command to "remove one tenth of the population", and actually uses the word decimate when he describes doing that.
Ironically out of all of his weapons, think Prophet's bow could actually be the most deadly one, since it's effectively a railgun powered by his immense strength.
i am not sure how his bow works, but actual bows do not become stronger in stornger hands. A strong-armed archer can draw them more easily, but maximum bow poundage depends on itsconstruction and not the archer themselves
@@sinistertwister686tell me you didn't played Crysis 3, without telling me you didn't played Crysis 3. His bow was designed to be only used with a nano suit, it has multiple fire mods(quick or slow) and arrow types (normal, explosive, flammable and EMP) and it allows him to stay in his cloak mode. So yes. The bow will be the most useful weapon.
@@sinistertwister686 Just take one look at the crazy stuff that happens in Crysis and you’ll see how a bow’s strength being determined by the archer is the least offensive thing done to physics.
@@GhoulBandit this isn't what I am arguing. I am arguing that bows are not "powered" by their users. Even if this bow has insane draw weight it still isn't powered by the archer.
@@CollegeBallYouknow That's fair. Too neatpicky of me, I agree.
Why do you sound angry at the demons like they did something personally to upset you
They killed Daisy…the fuckers.
@@rougarabid completely understandable have a great day
@@rougarabid That's the only reason needed
@@rougarabid Yes, yes they did. And it only *DOOM* ed them more. they pissed off Doom Guy by killing Daisy, and they pissed off every single person who has played any of the DOOM games as well.
Demons are opps no exceptions
Okay, hear me out. Would the monkeys from BTD6 survive the doom legion?
Supermonkey could kill the icon of sin by throwing a lot of darts really fast.
"Foolish creature, do you really thi- OH SATAN STOP THROWING DARTS AT ME AAAAAAA"@@psychicjellyfish9466
@@psychicjellyfish9466 The True Sun God also exists in BTD6
With farms it would be easy
Easily
To summarise 9:50 doomguy is like the Orks from Warhammer. He believes he is stronger so he quite literally becomes stronger. And that belief extends to ANYTHING he views and uses as a weapon.
Survival Challenge suggestion: "Would These Sci-Fi Universes Survive The Flood From Halo?" You could do the Tyranids instead of The Flood, but I think the Flood would be more challenging while the Nids would be a bit more fair.
Ok as a halo fan that’s sick asf and their adaptability is insane
I'm not the most well versed to Halo lore, most of what I know comes from playing the first 2-3 games in coop with my friend on the last few days, but there's 2 things that comes in my mind.
1. Resistance wise, they pretty much don't resist gunfire much, they can be tanky but they're certainly not immune per se, so many universes wouldn't have a firepower issue, at least for ground combat.
2. I'm not sure how the flood infection would react to some of the more "unique" races of some universes, so that could be interesting to think about. Take the Zerg, due to their nature, assimilative, regenerative, with parasites of their own, would the flood be able to infect them, and if yes, would it even be to a similar degree to what we see in halo?
All in all, a pretty interesting scenario I'm curious to see.
Essentially, the flood is a corrupted god, assume it can use any biomass, and if whatever has a nervous system, it can be infected, those are the rules.
I'd watch that
I wonder if Project Moon's universe for their 3 games would be included in this
Note. Atom smasher survived the explosion of arasaka which was used with a nuke and then he got even stronger than that with even more cybernetic enhancements. And if you read some of the extra stuff for the game and tabletop RPG there's a lot of weaponry that just the average person can get ahold of that's as strong if not stronger than tanks and there's plenty of weapons even stronger than that.
Hot take
He would beat the Slayer
@@Agencyagent34 that take is ice cold. Like absolute zero
@Agencyagent34 I need to know how, the Slayer beat Davoth soundly, and Davoth was so powerful that his anger transformed the realm of Jekkad into Hell, which in Doom, is unbound by space and time
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@@Agencyagent34Reason that’s a hot take ( it’s not true lol)
Darkwatch is an old favorite of mine. That you put this game in this list makes me happy in a way few things do.
I should play it again tony.
I swear every time I get a revolver and can fan the trigger in a video I legitimately try to make the gun just like the redeemer
1:03:04 you forgot the most important detail: Ava hasn't had voicelines yet
If you watch the "How Powerful Is The Doomslayer" video, you'll find out that almost nothing can survive the invasion
Yeah
Batman with prep time according to fans
That doesn’t upscale the demons that just shows how broken the Doomslayer is.
@@dc7981🤢 Ew. The Shadow rip-off. No thanks. We don't need Batman sparing Demons and putting them into verifiably corrupt prisons only so they can break free later.
@@TrashCanOdor don't forget demons are not the only thing hell has. They are just a part of the invasion. The real invasion is hell itself a higher dimensional LIVING BEING unlimited by space time or dimensions. So like the original comment said there is no chance.
21:31 doom guy is set on getting revenge for his bunny that the icon of sins can’t change my guy
Kid Icarus Uprising would be a good obscure pick for a second part
Aaaaa
The dark ones chilling when out of nowhere some guy pulls up like "hi there! Would you like to sign my petition?
I’m going to say that Borderlands possibly could survive since the weapons and grenades wackier effects summon mini suns and black holes and they throw those around like candy
Borderlands is an interesting one since characters are essentially immortal (not counting for story reasons) due to the New U stations. Loaders cannot be corrupted and can be built from nothing just like the characters. There are also plenty of people who are already insane so demon mind fuckery wouldn't work on them. They may not be able to deal with the big boys but they would probably just chalk that up to "Just another day on Pandora"
New u stations are not canon
If the loaders are powered by AI then Argent should be able to corrupt them.
@owaine-changaming and even if they were I'm pretty sure the demons could just figure out how they keep coming back eventually and destroy all the new u stations
@owaine-changaming Digistruct technology is which can create incredibly powerful robots instantaneously.
Also, the raid bosses we're not talked about at all. Those type of kaiju battles would be crazy against the titans.
I know that the dmc universe is not a shooter at all, but it seems to me that Dante and Vergil have every chance of defeating most of the demon bosses
I can definitely find somewhere to put him.
If you've ever played The devil May cry games. You know that they could hold back the invasion because their father has held back a demon invasion before andante has gone into The demon world and done something similar alone
@@SirAlex12different invasions.
That's why I specified demon and not hell
dante and vergil is really op ngl
I love how you take both really well known and completely unheard of characters/series, it really expands the interest of the videos as well as the viewers 'palette' when it comes to games.
I would argue the destroyer is the strongest thing the borderlands universe has to offer since just opening a vault that only exposes a fraction of it cracked a massive part of Pandora’s surface open not to mention it is the only vault monster contained in a whole planet which also caused the ancient civilization which sealed it to be destroyed just so that it wouldn’t destroy the universe since it is said to “eat stars”.
I believe you underestimate Cyberpunk as a universe. Smasher and V are the strongest individuals, the strongest solos... but even they won't be able to take on the CERBERUS from "Somewhat Damaged" mission in the Phantom Liberty (since V can't fight it and this robot was made to work in the EXTREME conditions). And this robot is merely for maintance. There are actual militaries with actual robots run by AI and actual WMD etc.
Wasn't CERBERUS a verd secretive And very much not mass pruducable robot?
And even then I doubt it could out muscle a Titan chucking it into space.
@@matijasostojic4288 It was an outdated robot from 2010s. Secretive and pretty rare, but not unique and not even cutting-edge. And I am pretty sure that old Cyberpunk 2020 TTRPG had some even more bonkers shit that isn't supposed to be used be Solos... because its an actual military-grade gear.
And, no, I believe Cyberpunk verse still loses this war. But it will hold its ground better than people think. The best chance would be to let all the insane AIs into the web and allow them access to all military hardware. It will ruin the planet for humans as well, so lose-lose codition
The Humans in doom could literally blow up planets with a single weapon. That's LEAGUES above anything that the Cyberpunk universe had, and they still got obliterated. The sentinels, with the help of a literal unbeatable warrior and giant mechs couldn't prevent their homes from getting invaded. The Khan Makyr, an immortal interdimensional being, had her home overtaken in mere seconds after the Icon of Sin broke free.
Sorry, but V, Smasher, and the entirety of Night City wouldn't last a single day.
@@Jane-qh2yd No one is arguing otherwise lmao, they're saying it would fair better than people are giving it credit for
@@negative6442 They would not fair any better at all. They would arguably perform FAR worse than people think. Most super heavy demons can survive a point blank BFG shot to the face. a single Baron might take either V or Smasher alone
This channel is my new drug
There is one borderlands mosnster that could kill the icon of sin at a minimum, and that is the destroyer, in bl3 nyriad claims that the destroyer learns from what it eats, and that thing has eaten lots of civalizations and typhon deleon claimed that the destroyer can EAT stars
For Borderlands, I do have to say there are a few Vault Monsters who can absolutely destroy planets, such as devouring planets, etc. (Though they would kill everyone on the Borderlands side as well...)
Sci fi heroes vs Mass Effect Reaper Invasion
I mean... I know nothing about Darkwatch, but there's this trope where characters that are evil enough can't be corrupted any further. And evil Jericho sounds like he'd be that type of character.
Not sure if you're going to read this but in Borderlands the Pre-Sequel Hyperion had their own version of BFG 10000 (granted it fires much slower?/can be fired in one direction) and that was just from the severed eye of the destroyer. Now imagine if other companies got ahold of Vault monsters and start "upgrading" them. Also the Atlas Corporation has a mech that can go toe-to-toe against a teleporting Vault monster in Tales from The Borderlands. The mech can also forcabliy make the vault stay put wherever it may be in the universe.
These mega corporations don't only specalize in guns some of them also specialize in shields, gernades, and artifacts. Some shields absorb bullets adding it to your ammunition, increase your physical power, or give you a massive health boost or shield boost, or increase the damage of your bullets as long as your shield is full. Don't get me started on the legendary weapons. The Vladof Corporation has an assault rifle that can shoot infinitly if it keeps hitting the critical spots of the enemy. Now imagine an army of thousands of people just firing these guns among a sea of demons.👀
One really cool matchup for the doom universe would be Xcom since they’re shown adapting the aliens technology and even improving on it themselves.
Not a shooter so it wouldn’t fit the theme, but it’s a cool thought I had.
Gordon doesn't need to hear all of this, he is a highly trained professional
I would say honestly, the Ceph from Crysis are A LOT more terrifying than what we think. As they are at least a billion years old that seemingly developed a whole galaxy around them. And in the lore: "Ceph have such advanced technology that can create practically anything they can think of," the only reason they are on earth is to "mine" it yes the whole alien force you are fighting in that series is essentially a group of prospectors and the fact they were at the center of or cause a 50 megaton explosion this is not a military force its more like gardeners/miners. Not to mention, it is implied they already control one galaxy and may or may not control all of the Milky Way. I'm not saying they would win as DOOM makes it clear the Icon of Sin can't really be killed without the Crucible, but I would say at least the superheavys could probably be dealt with. As Prophet is not gonna be stopping a billion if not older alien empire by himself. If they can make anything they want (this includes adapting to threats), they could feasibly deal with at minimum the super heavies if not some boss level if not all of them. The God's are probably a no-go unless they can feasibly warp reality to their side, which I doubt.
Long tangent aside doing this with the Halo universe, or 40k would be fun to see. As the Halo has two groups that can just rewrite reality and 40k is just so dang quirky. Not to mention having it's own demons and corruption.
This is a very common sci fi trope I’ve noticed. Half life does it, crysis does it, universe at war kinda does it etc
I think a really important thing to think about in regards to the Borderlands universe...considering we have sirens that steal other peoples' life force, we have elements that mutate you and shit, it would be absolutely no stretch to imagine the Megacorps of Borderlands rapidly researching and using Argent Energy for themselves. Imagine an Argent Energy infused siren. Doom Humans made the BFG. What the HELL would Borderlands make with that level of power? Like we already have handheld nukes, shotguns that fire other shotguns, magic (if you take DLC as canon)...
Ratchet and Clank verse can survive demons pretty well, considering how adaptive Ratchet is, the fact he siphons energy from enemies he kills similarily to doomguy (his exp upgrade system is derived from taking nanotech and machinery from the blood of dead enemies as stated in the second game, which introduced health upgrades), he has a power up in RnC3 thats literally just berserk power up from doom (and the adamantine armor is inspired by doomguy).
Clank being space jesus (yes, he is the son of god) and having quasi-eldrich energy and tech, I can see a mechanic to absorb argent from demons to replace Ratchet's nanotech stealing ability. Clank, being beyond time, could also use his abilities and control over the Zoni (who are a 4d+ hive mind who get stronger the more of them are summoned, to the point where 50 of them open a portal into the literal developer's studio).
So Ratchet is:
- furry doom guy
- weapons can hurt demons without needing argent
- physical attack potency in the 20 ton range
- potential to steal argent with clank assistance
- ability to siphon tech to heal
- potential to reverse engineer demon tech
- RYNO weapons can depopulate planets since the Ryno 4, there are 7 official RYNOs and 3 boot legs
This is 90% of what convinced me to buy Darkwatch. The other 10% was looking it up and finding out that High Moon did it. I ain't never clicked buy faster. Awesome vid, btw
Several things wrong with the demonic invasion bit (love the video btw)
1. Davoth did indeed create Jakkad and the other universes, but he also created the other races (namely the Makyrs)
2. Davoth loved his people and they prospered, but they were mortal, while Davoth was immortal.
3. He created the Makyrs to find a way to make his people immortal like him so he would not see them die in front of him.
4. The Makyrs did indeed find out how to make his people immortal, but deemed Davoth was too much of a wild card for such knowledge
5. The Makyrs then rebelled against their creator and succeeded in imprisoning him in Jakkad
6. Before he lost his physical form his rage literally changed his once beautiful kingdom into a hellish landscape
7. The demons are a mixture of naturally born demons and humans turned demon.
For a human to become a demon, they must be taken to Nekravahl (I think that’s the place) to be tortured and brutally beaten until their spirit is broken. Once broken the humans are then sent to processing, where the souls are violently ripped from their bodies. Most of the souls turn into Argent Energy. The bodies are then thrown out where over time they slowly turn into demons.
Love the video just wanted to point that out 😊
Edit: ok, I watched the video until the end of the demons section and everything he says was true. If anyone was mad at what I said I apologize
Small correction: if this is an invasion of Hell's forces into a non-DOOM universe, they probably wouldn't have access to the Cyber Mancubi (or Revenants for that matter) because those are products of the UAC.
So, Borderlands is my favorite game and I'm just gonna say it's VERY inconsistent in it's scaling. I think it's best feats come from BL3, in terms of power and hax.
The vault Hunters are all seemingly relative to one another since anything one does in canon the others are there doing it alongside them.
So for power, we have them obviously killing the destroyer, who is at the very least planet level as just waking it up would destroy Pandora. It would also pretty definitively be star level as a man who spent decades of his life on the planet of the beings who sealed it away declared it "literally eats stars." There's plenty of statements of being the strongest being in the universe and how it could wipe it out, but that could be an overtime destruction as nothing was strong enough to stop it.
What is more definitive though is the hax. In the canon post game, the vault Hunters fight a being known as the Seer. It is an ancient eridian, and had the complete knowledge and oversight of history and the flow of space, time, and reality. The Seer said that the planned course of history, the predestined absolute nature of the universe, was completely ignored and bypassed by the vault Hunters, with main focus on the sirens and the Calypsos. It went so far as to call them acausel (probably not how that's spelled) and said that their actions not only bent the course of history, they shattered it.
Not saying they win by any means, definitely with you on the idea they lose to the bigger baddies, but just some food for thought and some insight to some more scaling resources 👍
Ok borderlands right how the fuck would the demons kill the destroyer its literally invincible
Doom 3 is still cannon, you can find the Doom 3 tablets and the soul cube in the evil ladies lab.
It was basically just a hell invasion of another universe by a different Demon General or commander
Hugo Martin stated in a livestream tat it’s not. He takes inspiration from it on occasion but it’s not canon.
@@rougarabidNo, it is, just another dimension, thats what Hugo said. Its not in the Slayers timeline.
And since there is only one Hell (Jekkad) it must be true.
@@blazkowicz_the_3rd810 yup, throughout the Doom multiverse both exist, all connected through one Hell! And I love how three different universes (at least) had the UAC.
Doom Guy/Slayers original universe
Doom Marines universe
Then the Doom 2016/Eternal universe
@@supergodzilla3 exactly, love that someone understands that.
And Doomguy just powers through them like a lawnmower over grass. Input reading is standard in a lot of games. Heck, I got cannon fodder psychos dodging bullets in Borderlands.
as far as the borderlands series is concerned I don't think Pandora would notice a demon invasion until it is a good half year in
Things that I think are slight adjusters to mentioning,
Cyberpunk: there is also another living legend that will turn up again in later games but played a prominent role in the table top and has some entires in the 2077 game that bring to mention that he’s still about if not in his previous full active solo work. Black hand. But again just is a third person at super heavy fighting strength not really much else to say on him but he would be another super heavy fighter on the cyberpunk side. There is also the old world Ai’s that are just sitting there but as you say the cyberpunk worlds hacking didn’t get past wifi and though some of those AI could be a problem as they try and work out a way to fight, they have got complacent living mostly ethereal lives that they aren’t likely beating bosses either no matter what great power they think of themselves as.
Crisis: I’m not sure I’d side with you on him not being able to absorb the argent energy, it’s show to take the earthlings of doom universe barely a year to convert the energy type into useable format with all there tech and that just boosts them. It is thought made of souls it has been adjusted to really universal as to allow demon flesh and tech to use it as such I would side that prophet would likely be able to use it.
But I think given the demons have fought doom guy, seeing a weaker but starting out machine rolling up the same path, they would seal him quick enough before he starts being able to become another thorn like doom guy. I also doubt he would become doom guys equal but I would have sided on him being able to absorb it just on how easy it was for earth to convert the energy. This isn’t souls as they are originally formatted for a body but them converted to a universal fuel that powers in a massively efficient way that is good for boosting the output of machines and flesh alike. I wouldn’t knock the demons inventiveness with that and say a mech couldn’t run it because it’s souls, not because crisis universe has met this kind of thing, but because dooms universe and there demons made this stuff to be just that universally awesome to help them incorporate and grow from there universe invasion plans.
I don’t think either really changes the result by any significant factor, but they would be factors.
didnt the humans of DOOM get that info from Samuel?
@@voxpopssodaYea he gave them that And he is bassically "God's" assistant so it wasn't exactly something the humans could have done normaly.
Smasher would also be a threat to the demons
@@matijasostojic4288 that is what I was implying.
Everybody will likely say send V1 from Ultrakill but that would be too predictable.
So I propose the Guardian from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. After that I shall suggest some cannonfodder.
Those being Subject 612 from Trepang2 and the Combine Elite of Entropy Zero 2.
If this is taking place out of Doom universe, the icon a sin wouldn't be part of their force. It would still be imprisoned. As wood the Gladiator demon.
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To be honest, quite a few of the most powerful demons would likely be inaccessible for these invasions, and others would be much more difficult to come by.
Davoth required Doomguy bringing him to Urdak in order to be unleashed.
The Icon of Sin needed to be awakened by a Makyr ritual.
Since the Hell Priests aren't involved, that leaves out the Doom Hunters since there's no Deag Ranak to create them.
Maybe the Gladiator would be used if the demons figured out how to get it out of Argent D'nur, but I don't know if they could.
that leaves the Spider Mastermind and the Cyberdemon as the biggest powerhouses in the Demonic arsenal- still powerful, but *much* more manageable.
Another thing to consider is just how limited the Super-Heavy demons actually are. Sure there's more than one, but compared to the lesser demons, there really aren't that many of them.
Heck some of them didn't even participate in either of the invasions of Doomguy's reality.
The biggest problem, in my mind, is the sheer numbers the demons possess, and even then that's not much of an issue as over the course of, what, four engagements, Doomguy was able to destroy the vast majority of the Demons on Earth. Sure they can show up wherever they want, but the more territory that they have to conquer, the more thinly their forces will be spread, thus making it easier to pick them off one by one.
The only real issue I see aside from the boss demons is the Arch-Viles due to their ability to summon more demons at will, but that ability requires a great deal of time, and again- *there aren't that many of them.*
Right off the rip, I clicked on this video expecting idiotic make believe nonsense, but was blasted with a good summarization of the doom universe that I never was able to to grasp while playing the game, thank you right off the rip for that.
Releasing the destroyer is the nuclear option that would ensure both sides were destroyed
Covered this in a response video.
@@rougarabidyea you did and you downplayed the destroryers power and your arguments on cyberpunk while sound just show you know very little about the lore of the world. I don't think cyberpunk would win i just know you dont know a lot because you everything you said was either only kinda true or completely wrong.
@rougarabid I mean you did but you downplayed the destroyer by absolutely orders of magnitude. I'm genuinely wondering where you heard it was only a galactic threat. I'm pretty sure lore of borderlands 3 species (erridians) that it was responsible for wiping out in order to seal it was literally scanning the entire universe for something that could stop it and couldn't find anything 😂😂😂
Look, I understand you don't like borderlands 3's main story but the lore in it is fucking cracked 😂
The borderlands universe has a lovecraftian godly being that can consume universes and gets smarter.
I think you underestimate how broken borderlands Shields are considering that they block mag dumps from their op weapons. Not that it changes the resoult too much. It's just worth considering since it would make almost any shmuck capable of surviving long enough to use their guns against the demons, which is often one of the problems.
Its also worth considering how Canon respawns are. I don't think they are but they are mentioned in universe so its not impossible
Would love to see you do a DOOM vs. Warhammer vid. Either a hell invasion on the universe or Doomguy vs The Emperor of Mankind
Hell vs the Warp.
Scaling the Doom Slayer is kind of impossible tbh. He is basically the Saitama of his universe. Canonically, he has never lost a fight, and even while sleeping for hundreds of years, the demons still couldn't hurt him.
@Jane-qh2yd That's simply untrue. To say anything is impossible to scale even. Even Saitama took actual damage in his fight with Boros in the Manga, and Doom Eternal makes it pretty clear that Davoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other, Davoth literally created him after all, and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa "avoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other"
You have no proof for that. Canonically, we don't know if the Slayer ever takes damage during their fight, especially since in the cutscene, he had taken no damage, nor did he show any fatigue.
"and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him."
We have no idea why he passed out. We know the Slayer was created in his image, but we don't know if that means they are equal in strength (Which they literally aren't), it just means one needs the other for power
@Jane-qh2yd the father basically says it at the end of doom eternal. "By his hand, all things were made, even you." And then Slayer passes out. Context clues suggest that he absolutely went into an eternal coma because of the dark lord's death. Doom Slayer may be superior to Davoth, but he is also still very clearly limited. So unless new info gets added, it'd be safe to assume that Doom Slayer is only marginally superior to Davoth.
So a couple things I would say about just the general concept of the video:
So most of the setup I am fine with but I think including The Dark Lord and The Icon of Sin Would be in the invasion and that the universes HAVE to beat them especially the Dark Lord Davoth. So for the Icon of Sin he was only released to destroy Earth as a final chance to stop the Doom Slayer, this was because the Khan Maykr basically feared for their life and their universe so he was released to STOP THE DOOM SLAYER SPECIFICALLY, for Davoth I feel like he should not be included because he has very specific beef with The Doom Slayer and wouldn't care for these other verses stuff going on,.
But to my main problem: You are undermining the borderlands universe! or at least not taking some really powerful things up!
1: Shields: It is pretty small compared to everything that's why this is first but... Shields in the Borderlands Universe aren't just health boosts but a separate entity that doesn't have passthrough, so anyone using a shield would be able to take one argent strike.
1: Digistruct: Now I am not going to explain that the Vault Hunters can come back infinitely, mostly because that the respawn mechanic is none cannon. BUT here is the thing where they can make infinite loader bots (At least loader bots, I don't think of other powerful bots for an explanation later!) So why do I think it is infinite? Well both because there is no lore saying otherwise and the gameplay and story kind of show that! The economy of the world is all out of whack guns costing tens up to hundreds of millions showing that raw material means nothing! This is also shown by the Tediore company being able to sell digistruct guns that don't cost a sent to reload. Another reason I think digistruct can make infinite raw materials and loader bots is because in the lore think of anytime something is a valuable resource? It is either A: A unique mineral never seen before/is extremely rare (Examples being Erdian, Moonstones or Seraph Crystals) or B: Something of cultural or technological greatness (Vault Keys being a primary one) and these both can't just be made easily! The only limiting factor I could see to digistructing is computational power. Loader Bots are simple but a Saturn Bot would need actual time to build, though you could make an infinite amount you still need a base to assemble them! Loader Bots you would just need a generator and a digistruct device. So the borderlands Universe has an infinite army of bots on the same level as at least imps. I feel this could definitely help ease the pains of dealing with excursions coming up and dealing with the hoards of smaller enemies letting the Vault Hunters breathe more.
2: Legendary doesn't equal Unique: This goes hand in hand with my last point, Most Legendary guns aren't special they aren't one of a kind, so the Borderlands Universe doesn't only have an infinite army of Loader Bots but can have an Infinite army of Loader Bots with Shredfirem, Business Calls and DEPAS (Double Penetrating Unkempt Harolds) with fastballs as grenades and shields. I feel like its also has to go without saying, when it comes to the universe coming to an end money is no matter.
3: Sirens (At Least going off the lore and story hints we have seen so far) are resistant to corruption: In the borderlands Universe it is pretty much stated that Sirens are the only true makers of choice and free will in the Borderlands universe, for them they are the epitome of freedom nothing being able so I feel they would be able to resist corruption from the demons because a corrupted version of you isn't you.... a corrupted siren seem antiparticle to sirens..... Also if you don't want to accept that in the Borderlands 3 DLC Love Guns and Tentacles all of the Vault Hunters can easily resist the corrupting aura of the vault monster and cult of the planet, even if you want to say they didn't stay long enough on the planet the Hunters literally made contact with the still beating heart of the monster so I feel they had to deal with some potent fuckery.
4: Troy can also get to the power level of Tyreen: Yes Troy doesn't realize that he can leach other creatures at the beginning but that doesn't mean he doesn't have that power, and with what I believe as was stated before the Borderlands Universe could have two Icon of Sin level creatures on their side.
BUT THAT IS ALL SMALL CAKES WHEN WE COME TO THE LAST ACE THE BORDERLANDS UNIVERSE HAS....
3: THE DESTROYER:
So the first thing to get out of the way, How would the destroyer get out of Pandora? Option 1: Tyreen and Troys plan was to unleash The Destroyer, with a slight change of plans because of the demons they could easily just release the beast onto the hoards. 2: The Destory has a feeding mechanism that if not used to feed the destroyer would cause him to escape the prisoner needs to be fed or he will break that! 3: The Demons doing to Pandora what they did to earth would easily break The Destroyer out.
So we covered how The Destroy would get out! Now power scaling. The Destroy has destroyed countless galaxy spanning civilizations, forced one of the smartest civilizations to commit SOUP OF SIDE (Family friendly :) he is strong, Some other things The Destroyer gains the intelligence of any creature he has eaten, so imagine all the brilliant minds of the multiple galaxies, these civilizations best military generals, eons of collective knowledge, millions of albert Einstiens in one AT MINUM earth sized monster, though the destroy was described to eat stars so take the size as you will, if The Destroy eats even one Marauder it would be over truly in tactical planning. One eye of The Destroy ONE would be able to destroy a moon ONE EYE JUST ONE and The Destroyer IS AT MINIMUM PLANET SIZE.... THAT EYE WASN'T EVEN A PERCENT OF THE DESTROY NOT EVEN A DROP OF THE DESTROYER.... The Destroyer would wipe any demon including the Icon of Sin. Let's also not forget to mention the destroyer when in its full form is immortal.
I also want to go over some points you may use to disprove The Destroyer's power: 1: The original Vault Hunters were able to drive it back! False they were able to drive on mouth back in a weakened state (Specifically Designed to feed and not let out), 2: The Warrior is so weak compared to The Destroyer, This is for people who didn't go through all of the lore for 3, but a reminder The Warrior at the end of 2 was not supposed to control or even fight The Destroyer he was meant to prevent people from opening Pandora it self... Basically a Glorified Bodyguard. 3: Tyreen after consuming The Destroyer was killed: So without trying to be to much fan theory I am pretty sure it is explained that Tyreen wasn' brought up to The Destroys status as much as The Destroyer was brought down to hers... Also I don't believe Tyreen could eat The Destroyer that fast not going to lie.
So would I say the Borderlands Universe could win against a Doom Invasion? Maybe, 100 percent if Davoth wasn't included, Would I say it's a traditional win? Not really to win against the Invasion the Hunters would have to doom their galaxy but either way The Destroyer gets out even after the Hunters are gone... In the End it comes down to The Destroyer vs a Doom invasion... and I say like 55/45 Doom to Borderlands.
Also I would love to have a FRIENDLY debate on this! Maybe in this comment thread or on Discord so please do tell. I would also just be happy with you respoing to this comment as well!
Ngl bro, the Cyberpunk universe gets obliterated, and so do most other universes in here. The Doom Earth that was invaded had superior technology compared to anyone in this list. Remember, most of the slayer's arsenal was built by the UAC, including the BFG. If a society with giant mechs and literal planet destroying weapons were completely powerless against the invasion, nobody here is living longer than a day
Not unless something like the Khan Maykr or Icon of Sin decide to join in. Very much questionable statement that one, Doom Earth is full of a bunch of chumps. Weaponry is pointless if you get turned into paste before you can even use it. Cyberpunk universe has basically everyone augmented so they're already stronger than the average UAC soldier.
@@anitaremenarova6662 and the lowest tier of demons throw fireballs that's as hot as the sun...
Woah, I have been trying to remember about Darkwatch for YEARS at this point. Like no, seriously, I always remembered loving the game, but could not for the life of me remember the name! Thank you!
Hinestly V fighting side by side with Adam Smasher against a veritable army of demons AND ACTUALLY WINNING is such a cool visual.
My problem with using Edgerunners as a baseline for Cyberpunk is that 2077 comes after the KRASH which means that 90% of the verses most powerful tech from 2020 isn't there anymore. Including Smashers most powerful suit. The cyberskeleton is literally babystuff compared to Older ASPA suits
That’s not relevant to Edgerunners. The KRASH was in 2022 and ER takes place in 2076 one year before CP77. All feats that happen in ER are equivalent to that of 77.
@rougarabid That I understand, my apologies I should've worded it better. 2077 and Edgerunners (2076) represent Cyberpunk past its own golden era, so to speak. But it makes sense to use them since that is the most recent media related to it they just don't do a great job of explaining the Universes ridiculous power since they're separated from the tabletop where the real fun is.
The importance of me bringing it up is Smasher's better suit which makes him worth maybe 1000 normal Smashers
@@rougarabidanother thing when it comes to cyberpunk. Maxtec. Cyber psychos that cap V with ease. If V can Kill smasher, and a normal Maxtec Squad absolutely destroys V. I feel like the Cyberpunk Universe can fair a bit better than just V and Smasher vs the invasion.
@@MelloTheJester Theres a lot of weapons in 2020 that can rival the stuff that doomguy uses lmao. Like the anti-borg railgun, the .666 Hellbringer Magnum, the CLAW shotgun, rocket hammer, rocket launchers, 20mm autocannons, etc etc. Cyberpunk characters would fair pretty well against the demons
It's not a shooter, but the Kirby Universe could get really, really, really far into the invasion. Only the Icon of Sin and Davoth can maybe pose a challenge to him and his friends, and only Davoth could debatably stand a chance of winning.
Eh both would easily beat kirby.
@@dgagamingaesir Kirby alone has taken on numerous planetary, galactic, and universal threats, and Kirby and his friends took on Void Termina, a multiversal deity of destruction described as the source of all things. His world is at least making it to the fight against Davoth.
@@dgagamingaesirur sleeping on the lil homie bruh 😂
@@dgagamingaesir I think Kirby is a bit overrated but thats just downplay bro......
@MILDMONSTER1234Not really, Kirby I need help against Void ends which doesn't even scale to the sin icon
Doom Slayer is insanely fast but takes his time because he enjoys it.
In comes V1 who has no concept of “fun” just “YUMMY YUMMY BLOOD” and stomps the armies of hell.
the winged gopro will not stand a chance against a marauder, or the gladiator.
also V1 wouldn't even draw that much blood from the demons he slays, BECAUSE THEY FUCKING TURN TO ASH AFTER DEATH!
@@TENOZILIA They only turn to ash because lorewise the Slayer is the only one able to permanently kill them via absorption after putting them down… and have you even played either game series?
In DOOM the demons _splatter and explode_ into blood and guts. V1 would have a _field_ day.
Both the Slayer and V1 have taken on way bigger, way stronger, _way faster_ than a silly Marauder or something as weak as the Gladiator.
V1 has solo’d Earthshaker mini-cities, parried punches from the Corpse of King Minos- a Godzilla-size opponent- and has dealt with opponents like Minos Prime and Sisyphus Prime whose speed is so ridiculous that you can’t see them dash. They pretty much teleport.
If you played, let alone watched gameplay, it’s clear.
@@TemplarBlonic v1 still wouldnt stand a chance
@@TENOZILIA V1 literally thrives on enemies that spurt less blood than DOOM’s demons. With so many slow, lumbering bloodbags- V1 will not only survive, but *_thrive._*
The destroyer would do damage, he is literally an eater of civilization... advanced ones sure he is more than capable doing something insane and if I am right he goes stronger each time. More of a force of nature at this point
I love how you sound exasperated wondering who thought making these creatures was a good idea
I think Owerwach and Warframe would be good more popular contenders for this series love your content
They’re on the list 👍
Gonna bet Warframe is one of the few game verses thatd be capable of taking the fight all the way up to Davoth and maybe even win
@@zettovii1367 if we're doing Warframe let's throw destiny in there as well
anyone from overwatch would get absolutely MOPPED
@@TENOZILIA yea but not saying it so they win. i know they willl lose but there has to be some to lose and it'd be funny
Ok, can the world of ultrakill survive a demon invasion
Well, first, let's get some stuff right: ultrakill happens entirely on hell, the entire gameplay is on hell
Humanity is already dead, there's already demons, and in ultrakill they're actually demons
So, is Doom's hell actual hell or just a different dimension/universe called hell?
If i had to merge the two i would mostl Likley made it so ultarkill hell was created by the father who would be the ultrakill god and the reason He is gone in ultrakill is becuse he is in the life sphere
If v1 was in doom hell, it would melt fast
Dooms hell is both.
Take ultrakills hell, juice it up tremendously and have it start consuming multiverses, and then you have dooms hell.
Watching someone else play Doom makes me realize I don’t move around enough.
I think you underestimated post Crysis 3 Prophet. The guy had his suit limitations lifted during the events of the third game making him an unrestricted nanoswarm that just so happens to be human shaped.
The games did a disservice towards showing off the suit's full potential. With the restrictions lifted and the right upgrades Prophet could very well become a discount planetary annihilation commander. That can also break the sound barrier while hitting with the force of a greek god.
a few of suggestions: titanfall universe and Hoxxes IV from Deep Rock Galactic
I would honestly love to see those 4 dwarves fight demons.
@@waterscorpion6998 I think both Hoxxes nature and Rivals won't be happy about demons so it won't be a total chaos
@@FulKnightwe know that the bugs on Hoxxes evolve at scary speeds to adapt to things so they most likely get some sort of evolution that would deal with things. And the dwarves are dwarves. They are so dense they won’t die.
They might even create a alcohol canon filled with black out stout who knows
@@waterscorpion6998 literally the new update
This for Mass Effect, Darksiders, Overwatch, Fallout
Overwatch would be interesting actually. At first I thought they're cooked, but damn if you take all the in game heroes as well as the bad guys armies (talon, sector zero) the junkers and omnics and whatnot, all lore accurate, that would be insanely good
Fallout wins by all the protags just doing a bunch of future crack
@@JoshNotJohn0 Nah, Fallout wins by the protags of Fallout New Vegas, and Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 for that matter, just using weaponry that by all logic, cannot exist. I mean, look me in the eyes, and tell me that the Lone Wanderer wouldn't make a semi-auto pipe pistol that shoots mini-nukes. Which, by the way, are a condensed down version of a somewhat more powerful nuke than modern day nuclear warheads, and still way less powerful than the nukes used to cause the Fallout in the first place. Fallout New Vegas' courier, just gets Yes Man's help, and Fallout 3's protag, just uses the mothership, from the Mothership Zeta DLC. It's that simple. Also, you cannot tell me that the Cesar's Legion wouldn't be able to handle at least some of the fodder enemies.
@@fr3y438 I mean, yeah, the weaponry works well
but I think the courier would just do a bunch of turbo, slow down time to a standstill, and wreck everything in sight.
Darksiders could be interesting, since the horsemen are godlike beings.
These video ideas are so genius and I genuinely haven’t seen any content like this on RUclips. Keep it up man!!!
Bro, I remember Darkwatch. My brother and I played it together when we were young. It's probably something we shouldn't have played then, but still. It was fun.
Hell yeah new series!!
Cyberpunk has the Blackwall, which for those who aren't aware is a sort of digital hell where rogue AI are somewhat imprisoned/live.
As we discover with phantom liberty, these AI can escape and inhabit machines.
At full power and with no restriction, you'd likely end up with an army of extremely aggressive machines of varying sizes.
If the doom universe mixed in to this, it'd be like a scaled down 40k event.
Thing is the machines need net connection so they could only posses Cyberpunk universe machinery. This would still make Alt the strongest entity in-universe if she were allowed back through the blackwall.
On Cyberpunk, I think another problem the universe would run in to are people willingly selling their bodies/souls to the demons. You can't tell me Maelstrom wouldn't take one look at the demons and go "Yeah, I'll have what he's having" if it meant they could become more powerful.
Jesse from Control?
oh, i imagine complete havoc while FBC tries to take control (haha) of the invasion
Polaris could probably help her survive possession if not negate it entirely
@@AvoiceInYourheadd yeah, and i think the Board and Oldest House (Ahti) have some power against even pretty strong demons
@@FulKnight And now scary though, imagine if demons could control Oldest House. If I remember oldest house right, wasn't it access to every places and every possible time?
You did forget that there is another Siren they have access to during BL3, Tannis. She has the power to alter how tech functions and stuff, though I don't think the outcome will change, it would significantly help them out. Also, Salvador against the Doom demons would be fun as hell since you would likely never run out of Gunzerk. And if we have the weapons of Borderlands that means we could have the Pimperhab build or some other broken build.
I'm imagining you explaining this in a presentation setting to a modern day military group and its perfect, theyre all just staring slack jawed as you're causally explaining how extremely devastating everything is. 😂😂😂😂
I feel like if maxxed V or Adam Smasher could go Cyberpsycho, they'd be able to go MUCH further. I know thats impossible, but hypothetically, it would make them far more powerful. Ridiculously more powerful, really.
We’re also forgetting Maxtec. Even a maxed V can get stomped by them. Or the phantom liberty boss tank thing. That fucker is from the 2010s In their universe if I’m not mistaken. Imagine 67 years later In 2077 the things In the vault that could be infinitely stronger than the tank V fights In Phantom Liberty. While the Cyberpunk universe definitely can’t fight back forever. They have a much better chance than simply “Smasher and V”
@@glasss-o-water5186 Maxtac are much weaker than 2076-77 Smasher and super V in lore given how they were effortlessly wiped by Martinez. That being said you're right, imagine if Alt was let back through the blackwall she could singlehandedly possess multiple tanks like the one in Phantom liberty becoming the strongest entity that can't even be destroyed.
The biggest benefit to the Cyberpunk world is that everyone can can be augmented to easily kill the fodder. There is the side effect of going psycho, but they will still be attacking the demons.
Numbers matter.
Overwatch would not survive without sigma black holes are the only thing they got against the invasion
Borderlands wouldn’t need to fight back claptrap would just ask to be friends with the demons and they would develop the ability to fear so they can be afraid of being seen with him and then leave the universe
You said the borderlands universe doesn’t have any hacks or hack resistance but I’d argue that the new-u stations would classify as a hack. Those machines essentially make the main characters immortal. They would respawn just like the demons only faster. For the boss fights in the borderlands universe as long as one player is left alive while the others respawn the bosses health doesn’t reset. So they might be able get a little further than you think IF they work together.
It’s a good thing you specified Shooters
Otherwise the DOOM invasion would just be a morning in some universes
1:07:28 And another thing is even though she has life absorption and energy absorption there is a limit probably due to the cosmologies and dimensionality scaling but we’re not getting into that
I’m sorry but they aren’t surviving
V from cyberpunk I could see surviving. Especially if you go off cyberpunk lore for powers along and not just the game. I mean Adam smasher survived nukes, took down entire divisions of augmented soldiers. I mean I'm talking hundreds to a thousand augmented soldiers. And V took him out. Not to mention the weaponry and augments are insane. I would say it depends on the build but a combat centered V would survive.
Would he thrive like doomslayer? Probably not, I don't think he would become hells boogeyman. Could he survive the invasion of earth though? Yeah probably. The others on this list I don't know. Mostly because I don't know enough about them because I haven't played the games.
The real question to me is other ID properties. Could the guy from the original quake survive? I think he's got a good chance, he was on par with the original doom marine who is canonically the doom slayer. Would Billy blaskowicz survive? I'd say a hesitant maybe. He is doom slayers grandpa (great grandpa? I can't remember) and that is Canon. It makes me wonder if that kinda rage runs in the family
54:18 Misconception, the demons didn't directly torture doomguy. Not being able to kill demons was his torture, literally.
Notice how he left out Ramirez from MW2
“Ramirez shoot down that enemy AC130 with this paper straw!”
"And those weapons are no that effective to the demons..." - about the Crysis weapons.
I dunno about that. Standard assault rifle? Sure. But the Doomguys assault rifle, with rocket popup system, is essentially just a heavy machinegun. And those are available in the Crysis universe aplenty. RPGs are also fairly effective on demons if you score hits with them (probably not as useful against the faster buggers). Prophet's ability to regenerate rapidly and his stealth would be great assets for tactical play versus Doomguy's straight up rage filled assault.
You mixed the doom gameplay and the doom lore.
Argent Energy is nearly, if not, equivalent to *ABSOLUTE HOT* . Lasers and Nukes are worthless against the demons.
Only the good ol' *RIP AND TEAR* can get the job done. Prophet had the right idea. Unfortunately, he's not that guy(Doom Slayer).
One neat idea with Cyberpunk too would be the nature of modification and growth. If V is talented enough, taking argent energy and using it to fuel their own cybernetics could allow them to hack into demons, at the cost of slowly (or rapidly) being corrupted. It'd be a gamble, honestly. Hard to say, with how vague corruption is. Plus, there's the idea that, with the demonic incursion, Arasaka will be in it's best interest to drop the capitalism and start mass-distributing their most powerful augs to people. Even if the mind can't handle it, a cyber-psycho dying, dragging down a fuckton of demons with it is preferable to possession. And a possessed cyber-psycho wouldn't even know how to *use* it's own augments. It's even possible that if Arasaka isn't immediately wiped out - which I don't think they will be so easily, since it took a supped-up V just to do that - they would likely very quickly weaponize ardent energy, as even mankind was able to do that relatively fast.
I will say though, the other Super-heavies will be a major problem. Archviles in particular would be atrocious for them. Summoners that can create fire so hot it can melt metal? All the augmentations in the world mean nothing when they're superheated to the point they fry your skin from the inside out.
All of these together is one hell of a task force, though. Could be interesting. Something like the Slayer Squad.