Judging from how you described Prophet, I would say that he would have to adopt 1 of 2 methods to turn the tide in his favor. Either he waits for DOOM tech to be developed by the humans like it was in DOOM, giving him things like the BFG, but also allowing him to possibly harness argent energy in the same way they must have done it. Or he ditches his dead host body and physically takes over a demon. As for the Cyberpunk universe, we see a lot of the Miltech Corpo Mercenaries, police, and Arasaka assassins. They're all probably on par with whatever is a step above fodder. They might be able to give V and Adam Smasher could maybe have a sort of faction battle against demons. I know it's MCs vs. the invasion but in Cyberunk's case it might be more realistic to assume that the MCs aren't alone. Stellar video, really got me thinking
Honestly, a lot of the Borderlands universe is legitimately spiteful enough to unleash The Destroyer as a hail-mary for no other reason than to deny the Demons' conquest. It is explicitly stated to have the ability to destroy the entire universe if fully released. If worse came to worse and the Hunters and Corps were backed into the proverbial corner, they can just drop Elpis onto Pandora and let The Destroyer do its thing. They'll all be dead, and their universe will be annihilated, but it would also prevent the Demons from fully winning.
@@dgagamingaesir You're misunderstanding what The Destroyer is. It's not alive in the conventional sense. It's an interdimensional lovecraftian force of nature. Its presence alone literally burns the fabric of the universe. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that The Destroyer _is_ the concept of destruction given physical form, much like how Davoth and the Demons may be collectively considered Conquest and Ambition given physical form. Every time we've faced it, it was an incomplete or partially-awakened being that held a fraction of a fraction _of a fraction _*_of a fraction_* of its full strength. Every time we "kill" it, we've simply delayed and distracted it enough so the Prison it should be trapped in can re-close the seal. The reason why it's trapped is because the Eridians were completely incapable of killing it. Their Vaults are capable of materializing weapons from across time and space, yet they were forced to sacrifice their entire race in order to seal it away because no weapon that does or will exist in the entirety of space and time is or will be capable of killing it. The Destroyer will probably not destroy the Demons, but it will destroy the entirety of the Borderlands Universe and kill anyone and anything inside of it by simply existing there. The Demons may just be sent back to Hell after their deaths, but the universe they were killed in will simply be gone.
@@BreadTeleporter1968 It wouldn't be about beating the demons at that point, it would be about not letting them fully win. It would be a massive, spiteful middle finger from an entire universe of insane, suicidal assholes.
I still love that David Symanzki added that as a joke, left it there thinking nobody was gonna find it, and then when people found it he just left it there like "oh yeah I forgot about that lol"
Considering that Doom humanity did reverse engineer argent energy into their otherwise Earth based tech, shouldnt it mean the Prophet who's entire deal is adaptive nanomachines be able to do the same after coming into contact with it?
@@sebia1238 Considering that Prophet is a master tactician, has stealth tech and is stronger than the majority of the grunts, I think he should survive long enough to adapt.
“The khan maykr has been around demons for millions of years and doesnt seem to corrupted” my brother she sacrifices planets to hell so her people dont die
Yeah his guns are also weaker then his punch because he wants them to suffer. The 4x damage does nothing to him whereas it kills everyonr who uses it. And again, it's him just deciding to boost his weapons even more. Like how the rage melee his him just decided to be more efficient and less of a torturer.
@@poutineausyropderable7108 Apparently, he doesn't canonically have to use guns. It's mostly just a gameplay feature, I believe. However, his guns are shown to scale with his powers because of the divinity machine.
Plus cyberpunk characters typically have longer lifespans. Just look at Saburo Arasaka's 158 years or Hanako looking 30 despite being 78. Medicine in cyberpunk works miracles for life extensions assuming you can afford it with the lifestyle of a corpo or a badass edgerunner solo.
@@kiro253 Op said "everything was canon." Therefore, just because he isn't in 2077 doesn't mean he isn't somewhere else. Under that logic, V should not be a thing then. L take.
V1 would kick ass you can argue blood in ultrakill can be used as an energy source like Doom so V1 can heal themselves and V1 has strong enough weapons to kill any demon from Doom.
As soon as I heard you had the invasions in the verse and not in the doom verse I knew it was over. They can’t deal with the icon of sin. There’s no crucible
He skipped out on A LOT Higher demons can chill in hell and posess /mentallyattack people in different universes without respite. A single archphile can resurrect all killed demons. A summoner can send out an omnidirectional lazarus wave. Higher demons can shrug off nuclear bombs easily. Gore nests create inverse quantum fields that tear apart spacetime. And so on.
Back in my day you killed the icon of sin the old fashioned way, by shooting at it until it dies! No but really, you can still fill it with lead. And while that may not kill it, it will give you ample time to close the portal allowing it and hell through, or to contain the icon in some way like the makyrs did in eternal.
@@AnimatedTerror It won't work. Maykers had heart of son of Traitor who was the mind of the Icon, after Doom Slayer destroyed it, even Maykers couldn't contro, Icon
I think the thing that's going for the Borderlands universe is that most enemies in the entire universe are pretty strong and capable of defeating a couple of low-level demons with overwhelming firepower, instead of it just being the main characters. The downside is, the main characters aren't capable of surviving for a good while on their own.
I like this point because it highlights that compared to other universes the borderlands protagonists aren’t really any stronger than the people their fighting in a equipment stand point like if you fight a pycho in melee and you didn’t do a melee build your going to lose without any abilities This essentially means that even the weakest enemies scale while poorly do scale to the VH’s meaning that the lesser demons almost have to either get into a fair 1v1 or gank every single peon which with both sides having effectively infinite numbers makes it a pretty close fight for the light-heavy range
Unless you give them the new u machines which aren't canon. If you give them the new u machines, then you have an infinite number of vault hunters until their money runs out.
@@ovoid_ovvie that was a game mechanic be, as the New U mechines basically say you are immortal until you can't pay. Now realistically it's going to become a free service until the war is over, because demons don't need the New U except in hell itself, and money would be pointless to still be a function variable.
Quick Crysis lore. In the first game you play as nomad, then in the second game you play as Alcatraz, Alcatraz wearing prophet’s nano suit, in between Crysis two and three Alcatraz gets so traumatized that Prophet takes control if Alcatraz’s body
Also he is forgetting the best strategy in crysis two and three against the Ceph. Rocket launch spam. In crysis your melee speed never changes but the damage does so get the rocket launcher and melee has fast as you can against Ceph, it won’t work against Cell
Sure, V1 can take on Earthmovers and the Corpse of King Minos, but I doubt it can damage even one normal Hell Titan, because in order to even damage one of them, you'll need Wraith or Argent Energy to even get it to penetrate through the skin. So technically, V1 can't really kill even one DOOM Hell Titan with its weapons. Sure, V1 can dodge and parry, using his guns will be about as effective as throwing pebbles at a tank.
V1 is just a machine. He would get torn to pieces by the 'heavy' and 'super heavy' demons of the Doom universe, just like what happened to Samuel Hayden.
@@significancedry6627ok but like in ultrakill v1 manages to hurt Gabriel. He manages to hurt a biblically accurate Angel! Dooms demons are more sci fi nowadays but ultrakill is more connected to Dante’s inferno and therefore the abrahamic god who is capable of all things. Yeah V1 managed to cause Gabriel to bleed. This actually scared Gabriel because like, you know that shouldn’t be possible. But he did it. Dooms demons are tough but if V1 comes along it’s game over. V1 is literally built different.
35:20 debatably Adam smasher wouldn’t be affected by the soul ripping because it’s arguable wether he even has a soul anymore or if through all his augments he’s now just effectively an ai that thinks of itself as “Adam smasher” probably wouldn’t matter in the end, but an interesting thought.
I mean V's soul is basically already being corrupted by Johnny. So if they suck the rest of V's soul out than you have Johnny to deal with and since he's a construct he probably can't get sucked out of the body.
I think Adam smasher would just switch to hell side considering his character and well he’d go from A corporate solider to literal demon commander why would he turn that down if that would end up well for him I can’t say but I believe he would join them willingly
Ironically out of all of his weapons, think Prophet's bow could actually be the most deadly one, since it's effectively a railgun powered by his immense strength.
i am not sure how his bow works, but actual bows do not become stronger in stornger hands. A strong-armed archer can draw them more easily, but maximum bow poundage depends on itsconstruction and not the archer themselves
@@sinistertwister686tell me you didn't played Crysis 3, without telling me you didn't played Crysis 3. His bow was designed to be only used with a nano suit, it has multiple fire mods(quick or slow) and arrow types (normal, explosive, flammable and EMP) and it allows him to stay in his cloak mode. So yes. The bow will be the most useful weapon.
@@sinistertwister686 Just take one look at the crazy stuff that happens in Crysis and you’ll see how a bow’s strength being determined by the archer is the least offensive thing done to physics.
@@GhoulBandit this isn't what I am arguing. I am arguing that bows are not "powered" by their users. Even if this bow has insane draw weight it still isn't powered by the archer.
I hate being that kind of person but ALL lasers travel at highspeed, they're all made of light. Classifications like "chemical laser" or "fiber laser" refer to how it is generated. For example a chemical laser uses a chemical reaction to power the lught beam. Nuclear lasers are the most metal. They are powered by the radiation released by a nuclear explosion that energizes the lasing material and firing an EXTREMELY powerful beam for mere fractions of a second before the whole thing is turned into a very angry ball of plasma.
I would like to say that, regular weapons would in fact work on the demons. That's exactly what happened in the original Doom and Doom 2 and Doom 64, a long time before the Slayer acquired his Divinity powers, he was just a man with a gun. This alone would move every universe, including our own, at least up to partial Super Heavy status, as you could just throw Carl Gustaf/AT-4/Javelin rounds at Barons, Doom Hunters, and Tyrants until they died (just like you could in the original, enough rockets will kill anything). Archie would be a problem due to his shield and his summoning, and the Marauder would be the hard cap for most universes just due to his impenetrable shield and speed. The biggest problem and why you see Earth's military and the ARC getting shellacked is the SHEER NUMBERS of the demons and their ability to corrupt/possess people, not necessarily their durability or hitting power. If you notice, most of the giant Jaeger-sized mechs (both Sentinel and ARC) are mostly intact but non-operational. I have an idea that a lot of them had their crew killed by thousands of fodder swarming the mech and getting inside or by their crew becoming corrupt/possessed.
Argent Energy didn’t exist in the original Doom games. Remember Doomguy went back in time Billions of years and introduced the Maykrs to the Demons. This lead to the creation of Argent energy and a MASSIVE power increase to the demons. In that original timeline Earth was able to fight off the demons in the first city they invaded. In the new timeline even with Samuel building giant mechs and giving humanity Sentinel technology they were still overwhelmed in a few weeks. The demons in Eternal are not the same as the ones in the OG games.
@@rougarabid I don't think there's any evidence for the Slayer going back in time. Since the demons and Hell itself is pretty much timeless, I was under the impression that he was trapped in Hell after the 64 version for an untold amount of "time" until he popped out a portal into Argent D'nur at roughly the same time that he effectively entered Hell in his own universe (since he didn't age and was more or less the exact same physically, even in his old gear which would have fallen apart just from time if it flowed normally), putting his Earth and the new Earth on roughly the same tech level. Secondly, we can see the still functioning energy (presuming plasma) turrets at the ARC base and the UAC Phobos facility shooting Cacodemons out of the sky, which means that at least something equivalent to a plasma gun's output in energy can hurt and destroy them. Third, we can see very clearly the skeletons of dead demons in the Eternal E3 teaser, (The one where it shows the Slayer crushing the skull of a demon that an Imp had knocked from it's skeleton) implying that something was able to kill them before the Slayer arrived.
@@rougarabid So you're saying the E3 teaser is him reliving the events of Doom 2, so why are there Hell tentacles, and the new version of the Arachnotron with the top mounted plasma cannon, and the Hellborn Baron with the arm blades, and his shotgun has the meathook. Not to mention that you see several freshly dead (no decay/skeleton) demons including a prominent Imp. Also, what could have hit that demon hard enough to skeletonize it, because it wasn't there long enough to decay naturally. I'm just gonna go ahead and say that most firearms will work on fodder and some heavies (squishy bags like the Cacodemon, Arachnotron's exposed brain), while higher caliber and anti-material type weapons will work on most heavies and maybe one super heavy (Archie), with anti-tank weapons being able to work on most almost every demon besides the Marauder, the Titans, and the Boss monsters, with something like a 2,000lb bomb,16in battleship cannons and bigger being at least able to damage a Titan and some boss-types if they're able to hit, like the Gladiator (who is just an old-school Hell Knight)
This whole video is just wank that oversells how strong the enemies in Doom are lmao. Yeah the demons are strong but they're not THAT strong, there's plenty of conventional weapons you use in Doom that kill the demons. Like shit, Cyberpunk alone has a lot of crazy powerful weapons that would absolutely demolish demons, and there are a lot of other strong figures mentioned in the lore that could handle them.
We are leaving out several major factors in Boarderlands. The scale and ease of instant manufacturing of killer robots, cloning being easy access and quick with all your memories and combat experience in tact and every single person in that universe has multiple guns on them at all times would make it a nightmare for the demon's to try and take over especially when so many normal psychos are likely just as powerful as an Imp and the planets are full of them.
If you are refering to the NewYou Stations with the cloning thing then no they do not. The NewYou Stations are not a cannon thing that exist in universe for the Borderlands Games. They are simply there as part of a game mechanic so that you don't have to reload a save if you die outside a boss fight. Other than that I am in full agrement with you.
@@kahnathara6542 my friend. New you stations might not be cannon....but *digistructing* IS. Digitised items immidiately being constructed like hyperion loaders, Gaige's Deathtraps, axton's turrets, all the catch a ride stations are all proof that yes, digital to phisical, instantanious printing exists.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 I am more than willing to admit that I could be wrong, but as far as I can remember Digistruct tech does not work with organic material like flesh and bone. Which means that cloning is still not a thing. And Digistruct tech is also why I agreed with chakat on everything else in the first place.
@@kahnathara6542 sorry lad, i might have phraised it in a hostile way! You are a 100 percent in the right, just wanted to point out the tech itself still exists, and functions. (With your already stated limitation) Just might've put it down in the wrong way.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 You're good, I didn't take what you said in a hostel fashion, and I didn't mean to come across as hostel myself if I did. It is hard for me to tell if someone is purposely being hostel or not when I can't actually hear them, so no hard feelings or anything.
@@rougarabid Yes, yes they did. And it only *DOOM* ed them more. they pissed off Doom Guy by killing Daisy, and they pissed off every single person who has played any of the DOOM games as well.
To summarise 9:50 doomguy is like the Orks from Warhammer. He believes he is stronger so he quite literally becomes stronger. And that belief extends to ANYTHING he views and uses as a weapon.
Survival Challenge suggestion: "Would These Sci-Fi Universes Survive The Flood From Halo?" You could do the Tyranids instead of The Flood, but I think the Flood would be more challenging while the Nids would be a bit more fair.
I'm not the most well versed to Halo lore, most of what I know comes from playing the first 2-3 games in coop with my friend on the last few days, but there's 2 things that comes in my mind. 1. Resistance wise, they pretty much don't resist gunfire much, they can be tanky but they're certainly not immune per se, so many universes wouldn't have a firepower issue, at least for ground combat. 2. I'm not sure how the flood infection would react to some of the more "unique" races of some universes, so that could be interesting to think about. Take the Zerg, due to their nature, assimilative, regenerative, with parasites of their own, would the flood be able to infect them, and if yes, would it even be to a similar degree to what we see in halo? All in all, a pretty interesting scenario I'm curious to see.
Essentially, the flood is a corrupted god, assume it can use any biomass, and if whatever has a nervous system, it can be infected, those are the rules.
@imakecrappyvideos9360 Their regular weapons would probably be useless against many of the bigger demons. They will need new, more advanced weapons to actually stand a chance
@@alejandroelluxray5298 I don't think that argument works. Soldier can use the same rocket launcher as Ranger from Quake and Ranger uses that rocket launcher to blow up the same sorts of demons that Doom guy fights thanks to Quake and Doom sharing a universe. Ok I am struggling to explain this. Let's blitz it. Every very soldier in every TF game has been using rocket launchers as powerful as what Ranger used. Spy, the weakest mercenary, can survive a hit from one of these rockets, two if he is lucky. The same goes for some of the weaker demons in Quake. The same sorts of demons who Doom guy fights. And if Spy dies in two hits from a rocket launcher that can kill demons just as quickly, then weapons that kill Spy just as fast should be just as effective when used against demons And lastly, you can't convince me that a crocket isn't going to hurt a demon. And ignoring the mercs, yetis are described in a way not too dissimilar to a hell knight. And Saxton Hale one shots them. With his bare hands. I think the Demons have their work cut out for them.
@@redstonewarrior0152 No, because as explained in previous replies and comments by the OP of hte video, the demons we fight in Eternal are cranked up because of argent energy, go watch "How Powerful is the Doomslayer" and you'll find out that basically nothing will survive the invasion.
Note. Atom smasher survived the explosion of arasaka which was used with a nuke and then he got even stronger than that with even more cybernetic enhancements. And if you read some of the extra stuff for the game and tabletop RPG there's a lot of weaponry that just the average person can get ahold of that's as strong if not stronger than tanks and there's plenty of weapons even stronger than that.
@Agencyagent34 I need to know how, the Slayer beat Davoth soundly, and Davoth was so powerful that his anger transformed the realm of Jekkad into Hell, which in Doom, is unbound by space and time
the demons would feel sorry for everyone there since that verse is messed up already, but considering how hell feeds off of suffering, i'd say wh40k is a feast to just sit in
@@dc7981🤢 Ew. The Shadow rip-off. No thanks. We don't need Batman sparing Demons and putting them into verifiably corrupt prisons only so they can break free later.
@@TrashCanOdor don't forget demons are not the only thing hell has. They are just a part of the invasion. The real invasion is hell itself a higher dimensional LIVING BEING unlimited by space time or dimensions. So like the original comment said there is no chance.
The fact you've consistently skipped over V1 from Ultrakill is crazy because A. I'm 90% certain he's an indie character and B. He definitely a shooter hero since his game is hard-core inspired by DOOM and other Boomer-shooter.
Are we gonna pretend that V1 stands a chance. I mean a chance of losing, bro will solo hell, the slayer couldn’t manage it, he’s too slow, but V1 got the moves.
Woah, I have been trying to remember about Darkwatch for YEARS at this point. Like no, seriously, I always remembered loving the game, but could not for the life of me remember the name! Thank you!
I just want to thank you for bringing up Prophet, and the Crysis series in general, haven't seen anyone so far actually giving him some credit. He may not be too powerful, but it's always nice to see someone taking about him. The only thing I have to bring up is his cloaking, something that I constantly used in crysis 3, and Prophet does have a special bow, with explosive arrows. I do also state though, that Prophet does still have the capability to die from certain weapons, created either by humans or the aliens, not entirely sure. I don't argue his spot in this, just stating. Have a good day, anyone that read this, and remember, someone out there does still care about you, no matter what your mind says
Dude I am so glad I met your channel, you have already made it in the top 10 list of my personal favorite channels, amazing personality, amazing comedy, amazing analysis, gameplay footage, etc. Just peak.
I feel like the Borderlands Universe could stand a decent chance of pushing back the Doom Invasion if they unleashed The Destroyer, which is apparently a Galaxy Devouring monster. It probably wouldn't defeat Dagon anyways, and unleashing The Destroyer from Pandora is a death sentence for the Borderlands Universe, but it's worth consideration maybe. I guess...there's also maybe the...God like being at the end of New Tales from the Borderlands? I'm not sure if New Tales is Canon or not. I know the original Tales from the Borderlands is Canon, but New Tales...? Anyways uh...one of the endings for New Tales from the Borderlands is this God like being, being created or unleashed or whatever, and apparently they can just...end all life in the universe within an instant...which they did in one ending... I'm not sure how that would fair, and I don't even want to talk about it any further. New Tales from the Borderlands is a worse shit stain on the Borderlands Timeline/Story than even Borderlands 3
Fun fact about doom demons: they destroy and consume the entire universe and the icon of sin whilst just existing can and will consume entire univereses into hell given enough time
@@theenderdestruction2362 I know, I've watched the video. Just saying a point to consider in possibly defending the Universe from the Doom Invasion is the Destroyer, which is an entity that grows in intelligence and power with every person/civilization it devours. Though like I said, releasing The Destroyer itself is a GG for the Borderlands Universe itself, so its not like the Universe would be saved...but it would at least help push back the Doom Invasion to an extent. But even if we pretend the Destroyer could solo the Doom Invasion, the Borderlands Universe would still...die...The Destroyer in Borderlands is meant to be a cosmic being too power for even the most technologically advanced and powerful society in the Universe's history to defeat, they had to seal it away, and even then they had to design the cage with a feeding tray to keep it satiated so it wouldn't try and break out, which implies the prison can't even hold it if it really tries to get out
@duskgaming18 This is fair. it's basically die or die on your own terms, but that leads to the scary thought of the destroyer getting corrupted by hell. That's just another weapon for hell to use against other universes
@@theenderdestruction2362 True. The Destroyer being corrupted by Hell's Influence/Power, similar to what was mentioned for the Leech Siren would probably be even worse, cause The Destroyer is already a civilization ending, solar system devouring beast who just keeps getting stronger as it feeds. It becoming yet another Demon for Hell, would be like adding yet another Nuke into the situation. Like it won't change much, but the fact Borderland's biggest weapon would switch sides wouldn't help either
A "just for fun" suggestion would be Team Fortress 2, since their in-universe respawns and zanier weapons (like the Midas-esque Gold Frying Pan or disintegrating Phlogistinator) would not be enough against the forces of Hell. A more even suggestion would be Bioshock, not because of plasmids or Big Daddies or Songbird but because of Elizabeth's reality warping tears, especially when she fully unlocks her power and has multiverse-level awareness.
Tf2 would be gone in literal hours, they have not even got comparable UAC tech. Additionally the respawns seem to be non-canon (aside from the Mann vs machine respawn machine). Bioshock would be just as screwed. Reality bending tears, cool, infinite universes to be invaded. Rapture would literally boil as the demonic corruption takes ahold of the oceans and plasmids are nothing when the demon’s lowest of the low foot soldiers are IMPS.
@@BreadTeleporter1968 You fool, you forgot about one of the greatest monsters TF2 has ever seen: The Giant Living Tumor Filled Loaf Of Bread. Also, TF2 doesn't really have a cannon, it is pretty much entirely community based stuff, so there are either multiple canon realities/dimensions, or they are all part of one single reality/dimension, and just spread out over multiple alternate, yet extremely similar, versions of earth. So, uh, to sum up my point: TF2's mercenaries, and especially the trio of: The Medic, The Heavy, and The Engineer, could absolutely handle the demonic invasion. I mean, look at TF2, The game has a coconut jpeg in the files, that it cannot run without! Yes, seriously! TF2 is pretty much the be all, end all, of overpowered and completely and utterly BS universes and games. Also, Merasmus and SAXTON HALE, are both stupidly powerful, Merasmus due to magic (and the fact he has literally no morals), and SAXTON HALE because of money, exercise, lack of morals, and being AUSTRALIAN. Also, Engineer can literally just show those demons some good old fashioned *Southern Hospitality*, and deal with the fodder and heavy enemies easily.
@@fr3y438 I’m going to assume the loaf of bread is a joke. The heavy is easy to take down by anything with some slight gall. And would likely get possessed and become a chain gunner. Medic sold his souls years ago so he would not be able to be easily possessed (although The Icon of Sin and Davoth could probably manage it easily) And same with engineer. Once he’s possessed his sentries will run out of ammo. Merasmus is somewhat plausible but hell’s magic is much stronger than his. The only real contender I see here is Saxton Hale. Although he is still mortal. Also, TF2 has a canon. The comics canon is seemingly the major canon. I have no idea where you pulled that idea from.
@@BreadTeleporter1968it actually depends on what cannon you go by because if you go by the comics and taunts not only are the mercs other than medic immortal as they dont have a soul, soldier has a taunt where in one punch he causes a yeti to litterally explode, they would eventually fall but it would take id say around 5-15 years as long as they play their cards right
I love how you take both really well known and completely unheard of characters/series, it really expands the interest of the videos as well as the viewers 'palette' when it comes to games.
This is 90% of what convinced me to buy Darkwatch. The other 10% was looking it up and finding out that High Moon did it. I ain't never clicked buy faster. Awesome vid, btw
Borderlands is an interesting one since characters are essentially immortal (not counting for story reasons) due to the New U stations. Loaders cannot be corrupted and can be built from nothing just like the characters. There are also plenty of people who are already insane so demon mind fuckery wouldn't work on them. They may not be able to deal with the big boys but they would probably just chalk that up to "Just another day on Pandora"
@owaine-changaming and even if they were I'm pretty sure the demons could just figure out how they keep coming back eventually and destroy all the new u stations
@owaine-changaming Digistruct technology is which can create incredibly powerful robots instantaneously. Also, the raid bosses we're not talked about at all. Those type of kaiju battles would be crazy against the titans.
I know this isn't really relevant, but I can think of literally 1 instance where the word "decimate" was used correctly. In the 2005 rendition of Doctor Who, in the season 3 finale, The Master does actually give the literal command to "remove one tenth of the population", and actually uses the word decimate when he describes doing that.
I kinda wanna see how this would work with Ultrakill. Like, can Hell be corrupted by the demons? Can Hell take the souls of demons? Can Hell (and anything inside) absorb Argent energy? Because Hell is alive. And Hell is also something that even God couldn't destroy. In addition, blood is an energy source in Ultrakill. So, how would that work? If the demons in Doom have their blood be Argent energy, could it be absorbed like blood? These are some very important questions that need to be awnsered for any theory can be made on what could happen.
Their blood is normal, the slayer gets covered without consequences, and before someone says, “but the slayer can withstand higher temperatures than V1” or something, first of all, not true, second of all, he takes damage from lava, which means that demon blood is regular blood.
Dying to lava is just a gamplay mechanic, the codex in 2016 states that that when a demon dies the argent in there body become super hot, so hot that it infact literally burns up the bodys of the demons. The slayer has tanked way worse for example he tanked the vega core explosion which ripped a hole through space-time, resisted the reality warping affects of demons and the icon of sin and resisted argent energy attacks which burns way hotter then lava ever would the hardest hit that V1 ever took were probably from syphisis which had the power to destroy the city of heaven which doesnt really say much especially when doom has fought the litteral god of the multiverse and beings that can move at speeds faster then light .@@rhyderleming5851
1. Talk about anointment. Troy documents that anointment is the process of absorbing eridium into a non-siren. This process makes the announted turn into eridium, which directly translates to elemental damage, teleportation abilities, and vastely heightened durability. And with how troy described it, it sounds like a power that all sirens can do. But, even if it isn't, ava is guaranteed that ability. 2. Further discussion about eridium. Eridium is a nigh industructable material. Eridian technology were the only things which were capable of harming harming raw eridium in borderlands 3. Eridium was also responsible for corrupting several creatures, and through refinement created an element known as "slag" which was normal damage in all ways except for how it amplified non-slag damage. Both of these abilities are reminiscent of anointment. Eridium's most known ability however, is the power to amplify siren abilities. Maya gained the ability to do complex actions during phaselock, lilith giuld teleport an entire town, and tyreen phasegrasped the fucking moon. Sidenote, lilith brandished elpis, jot pandora. 3. in borderlands 2 we're told eridium came from the borderlands 1 vault, a vault of which contained a very small portion of the destroyer's power... A very small portion of the destroyer's power, awakened an ancient material across the entire universe. The eye of this creature ALONE was responsible for the giant puple hole bored into elpis. I'm not going to delve into the rest if what the destroyer can do, I think others may have talked about it. 4. That's about all of my borderlands points, but i do have one about doom. You phrase the doomhunter as a machine enhanced demon specifically designed to fight the doom slayer. I want to bring up the possibility of the demons also making a counter for other characters. Like adam smasher, or the entirety of borderlands in general. 5. I just thought of something. I remember from my short time of playing doom that the doomslayer universe took some materials from the demons, and obviously the demons could do the same vice versa. Would that provide any sort of advantage to the universes? I will answer whatever questions i can in the replies. I will also fix any spelling mistakes I learn of, and make my own counter against the borderlands universe.
Borderbuster. Borderbuster is a demon built into a mech designed with very particular purposes. The mech is designed to be very fast and durable, it uses short range argent energy weapons and barriers, as well as long range guns reminiscent of a chain gun. It also has a rocket propelled spike which shatters eridium, and pretty much anything else. it can focus it's Natural corruption skill into a laser, building hell around itself to make locations to it's own advantage. It can fly, teleport short distances, and generate argent energy from eating enemies. Viola, this creature was based on wotan the invincible, the destroyer, and the eridium resonator. I also cross referenced with the doom wiki.
I believe you underestimate Cyberpunk as a universe. Smasher and V are the strongest individuals, the strongest solos... but even they won't be able to take on the CERBERUS from "Somewhat Damaged" mission in the Phantom Liberty (since V can't fight it and this robot was made to work in the EXTREME conditions). And this robot is merely for maintance. There are actual militaries with actual robots run by AI and actual WMD etc.
@@matijasostojic4288 It was an outdated robot from 2010s. Secretive and pretty rare, but not unique and not even cutting-edge. And I am pretty sure that old Cyberpunk 2020 TTRPG had some even more bonkers shit that isn't supposed to be used be Solos... because its an actual military-grade gear. And, no, I believe Cyberpunk verse still loses this war. But it will hold its ground better than people think. The best chance would be to let all the insane AIs into the web and allow them access to all military hardware. It will ruin the planet for humans as well, so lose-lose codition
The Humans in doom could literally blow up planets with a single weapon. That's LEAGUES above anything that the Cyberpunk universe had, and they still got obliterated. The sentinels, with the help of a literal unbeatable warrior and giant mechs couldn't prevent their homes from getting invaded. The Khan Makyr, an immortal interdimensional being, had her home overtaken in mere seconds after the Icon of Sin broke free. Sorry, but V, Smasher, and the entirety of Night City wouldn't last a single day.
@@negative6442 They would not fair any better at all. They would arguably perform FAR worse than people think. Most super heavy demons can survive a point blank BFG shot to the face. a single Baron might take either V or Smasher alone
If you've ever played The devil May cry games. You know that they could hold back the invasion because their father has held back a demon invasion before andante has gone into The demon world and done something similar alone
I’m going to say that Borderlands possibly could survive since the weapons and grenades wackier effects summon mini suns and black holes and they throw those around like candy
One really cool matchup for the doom universe would be Xcom since they’re shown adapting the aliens technology and even improving on it themselves. Not a shooter so it wouldn’t fit the theme, but it’s a cool thought I had.
1:06 Hell is considered a living sentient being with a mind on it's own the only way to enter Hell is by breaking a space-time in other words creating a slip-gate portal as such. Hell stretches to infinity that it will never end the more you try to escape it by just heading a certain direction the more demons you will encounter to Hell is the origin of the Multiverse of Doom and every dimension or unmistakable connected to Hell as such infinite amount of different dimensions and universes that have been consume by the Hellish dimensions have made Hell and it's demonic force grown even stronger over time and most of the demons encounter in Hell were not born in it but we're assimilated by it such as the gargoyles which were originate in Argent D'nur or the Aggadon Hunters which were originated on Earth thanks to the Hell Priest. Hell has an unimagine minimal amount of Demons that are able to level an entire cities just by walking and other beings like the Icon of Sin being able to consume entire dimensions and entire worlds just by merely existing.
For Borderlands, I do have to say there are a few Vault Monsters who can absolutely destroy planets, such as devouring planets, etc. (Though they would kill everyone on the Borderlands side as well...)
Love the video. One thing I'd like to add about the Marauderis that the only reason why their eyes flash green and give you a window to hit them at mid-close distance is because Doom guy personally trained them and only, he can see that otherwise good luck fighting even a single one. These guys can tank infinite Bfg blasts unless staggered and it's over for everyone if one shows up buffed or possessed
honestly i think if we say phantom liberty happens before the invasion song bird might be one of the powerful ones with her complete control of the rogue Ais
I would say honestly, the Ceph from Crysis are A LOT more terrifying than what we think. As they are at least a billion years old that seemingly developed a whole galaxy around them. And in the lore: "Ceph have such advanced technology that can create practically anything they can think of," the only reason they are on earth is to "mine" it yes the whole alien force you are fighting in that series is essentially a group of prospectors and the fact they were at the center of or cause a 50 megaton explosion this is not a military force its more like gardeners/miners. Not to mention, it is implied they already control one galaxy and may or may not control all of the Milky Way. I'm not saying they would win as DOOM makes it clear the Icon of Sin can't really be killed without the Crucible, but I would say at least the superheavys could probably be dealt with. As Prophet is not gonna be stopping a billion if not older alien empire by himself. If they can make anything they want (this includes adapting to threats), they could feasibly deal with at minimum the super heavies if not some boss level if not all of them. The God's are probably a no-go unless they can feasibly warp reality to their side, which I doubt. Long tangent aside doing this with the Halo universe, or 40k would be fun to see. As the Halo has two groups that can just rewrite reality and 40k is just so dang quirky. Not to mention having it's own demons and corruption.
I mean... I know nothing about Darkwatch, but there's this trope where characters that are evil enough can't be corrupted any further. And evil Jericho sounds like he'd be that type of character.
Fun Fact: when killing the gladiators living shield, it says words that translate to "Rip and Tear", it wants the gladiator dead, it may be possibly possessed by all the gladiators victims
Several things wrong with the demonic invasion bit (love the video btw) 1. Davoth did indeed create Jakkad and the other universes, but he also created the other races (namely the Makyrs) 2. Davoth loved his people and they prospered, but they were mortal, while Davoth was immortal. 3. He created the Makyrs to find a way to make his people immortal like him so he would not see them die in front of him. 4. The Makyrs did indeed find out how to make his people immortal, but deemed Davoth was too much of a wild card for such knowledge 5. The Makyrs then rebelled against their creator and succeeded in imprisoning him in Jakkad 6. Before he lost his physical form his rage literally changed his once beautiful kingdom into a hellish landscape 7. The demons are a mixture of naturally born demons and humans turned demon. For a human to become a demon, they must be taken to Nekravahl (I think that’s the place) to be tortured and brutally beaten until their spirit is broken. Once broken the humans are then sent to processing, where the souls are violently ripped from their bodies. Most of the souls turn into Argent Energy. The bodies are then thrown out where over time they slowly turn into demons. Love the video just wanted to point that out 😊 Edit: ok, I watched the video until the end of the demons section and everything he says was true. If anyone was mad at what I said I apologize
If this is taking place out of Doom universe, the icon a sin wouldn't be part of their force. It would still be imprisoned. As wood the Gladiator demon.
I would argue the destroyer is the strongest thing the borderlands universe has to offer since just opening a vault that only exposes a fraction of it cracked a massive part of Pandora’s surface open not to mention it is the only vault monster contained in a whole planet which also caused the ancient civilization which sealed it to be destroyed just so that it wouldn’t destroy the universe since it is said to “eat stars”.
I think the two biggest things with Borderlands is the Eridian's literally control time, they don't exist within time. They're not just faster than light, they're faster than time. And second, Borderlands 3 has the Hellwalker, not only a super-shotgun but implied (even if a joke weapon) to be the exact type of Super-shotgun Doomguy uses, lol. I guess my point with Borderlands is, when you leave out the Eridians and even the Guardians from the equation you're only looking at the Vault-Hunters, Crimson Raiders and whatnot. I think Borderlands is oddly enough the only folks who have a chance here. The Eridians just stop time manipulate their own universe in ways that'll help counter the invasion.
Right off the rip, I clicked on this video expecting idiotic make believe nonsense, but was blasted with a good summarization of the doom universe that I never was able to to grasp while playing the game, thank you right off the rip for that.
Doom 3 is still cannon, you can find the Doom 3 tablets and the soul cube in the evil ladies lab. It was basically just a hell invasion of another universe by a different Demon General or commander
@@blazkowicz_the_3rd810 yup, throughout the Doom multiverse both exist, all connected through one Hell! And I love how three different universes (at least) had the UAC. Doom Guy/Slayers original universe Doom Marines universe Then the Doom 2016/Eternal universe
Everybody will likely say send V1 from Ultrakill but that would be too predictable. So I propose the Guardian from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. After that I shall suggest some cannonfodder. Those being Subject 612 from Trepang2 and the Combine Elite of Entropy Zero 2.
I think a really important thing to think about in regards to the Borderlands universe...considering we have sirens that steal other peoples' life force, we have elements that mutate you and shit, it would be absolutely no stretch to imagine the Megacorps of Borderlands rapidly researching and using Argent Energy for themselves. Imagine an Argent Energy infused siren. Doom Humans made the BFG. What the HELL would Borderlands make with that level of power? Like we already have handheld nukes, shotguns that fire other shotguns, magic (if you take DLC as canon)...
The cyberpunk would do pretty well because most of the civilians and gangs are cyborgs , while they aren’t on the level of V, smasher , and David , they are a lot more capable then you think and we only saw what night city had to offer, imagine what other parts of the world can do.
Even so, they wouldn't last that long, the ARC resistance was beaten severely even when equipped with the most advanced weaponry, so the cyborgs of Cyberpunk would run into a similar fate, especially against Cyber demons and Barons of Hell
@@alejandroelluxray5298 what can the cyberdemons do ? Besides from when I’m seeing doomslayer taking them out lol, but overall the reason I say that is cause of the implants like sandevistans which is op ,reinforced skeletons , etc. it’s not just advanced weaponry but also superhuman abilities from the cyberware , I have no idea if doom has cyborgs, not from what I seen , not saying cyberpunk wins but they will give them a nasty fight tho.
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Doom humans seem to still be fully flesh and blood other than Hayden, they would definitely put up a much better fight even if they would eventually succumb to corruption and the stronger demons.
Scaling the Doom Slayer is kind of impossible tbh. He is basically the Saitama of his universe. Canonically, he has never lost a fight, and even while sleeping for hundreds of years, the demons still couldn't hurt him.
@Jane-qh2yd That's simply untrue. To say anything is impossible to scale even. Even Saitama took actual damage in his fight with Boros in the Manga, and Doom Eternal makes it pretty clear that Davoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other, Davoth literally created him after all, and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa "avoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other" You have no proof for that. Canonically, we don't know if the Slayer ever takes damage during their fight, especially since in the cutscene, he had taken no damage, nor did he show any fatigue. "and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him." We have no idea why he passed out. We know the Slayer was created in his image, but we don't know if that means they are equal in strength (Which they literally aren't), it just means one needs the other for power
@Jane-qh2yd the father basically says it at the end of doom eternal. "By his hand, all things were made, even you." And then Slayer passes out. Context clues suggest that he absolutely went into an eternal coma because of the dark lord's death. Doom Slayer may be superior to Davoth, but he is also still very clearly limited. So unless new info gets added, it'd be safe to assume that Doom Slayer is only marginally superior to Davoth.
eridians from bl 2 are actually pretty similar to demons from doom. They are powerful invaders who conquered half of the games universe and with the technologies they have theyd do a pretty good competition
Things that I think are slight adjusters to mentioning, Cyberpunk: there is also another living legend that will turn up again in later games but played a prominent role in the table top and has some entires in the 2077 game that bring to mention that he’s still about if not in his previous full active solo work. Black hand. But again just is a third person at super heavy fighting strength not really much else to say on him but he would be another super heavy fighter on the cyberpunk side. There is also the old world Ai’s that are just sitting there but as you say the cyberpunk worlds hacking didn’t get past wifi and though some of those AI could be a problem as they try and work out a way to fight, they have got complacent living mostly ethereal lives that they aren’t likely beating bosses either no matter what great power they think of themselves as. Crisis: I’m not sure I’d side with you on him not being able to absorb the argent energy, it’s show to take the earthlings of doom universe barely a year to convert the energy type into useable format with all there tech and that just boosts them. It is thought made of souls it has been adjusted to really universal as to allow demon flesh and tech to use it as such I would side that prophet would likely be able to use it. But I think given the demons have fought doom guy, seeing a weaker but starting out machine rolling up the same path, they would seal him quick enough before he starts being able to become another thorn like doom guy. I also doubt he would become doom guys equal but I would have sided on him being able to absorb it just on how easy it was for earth to convert the energy. This isn’t souls as they are originally formatted for a body but them converted to a universal fuel that powers in a massively efficient way that is good for boosting the output of machines and flesh alike. I wouldn’t knock the demons inventiveness with that and say a mech couldn’t run it because it’s souls, not because crisis universe has met this kind of thing, but because dooms universe and there demons made this stuff to be just that universally awesome to help them incorporate and grow from there universe invasion plans. I don’t think either really changes the result by any significant factor, but they would be factors.
Ngl bro, the Cyberpunk universe gets obliterated, and so do most other universes in here. The Doom Earth that was invaded had superior technology compared to anyone in this list. Remember, most of the slayer's arsenal was built by the UAC, including the BFG. If a society with giant mechs and literal planet destroying weapons were completely powerless against the invasion, nobody here is living longer than a day
Not unless something like the Khan Maykr or Icon of Sin decide to join in. Very much questionable statement that one, Doom Earth is full of a bunch of chumps. Weaponry is pointless if you get turned into paste before you can even use it. Cyberpunk universe has basically everyone augmented so they're already stronger than the average UAC soldier.
Overwatch would be interesting actually. At first I thought they're cooked, but damn if you take all the in game heroes as well as the bad guys armies (talon, sector zero) the junkers and omnics and whatnot, all lore accurate, that would be insanely good
@@JoshNotJohn0 Nah, Fallout wins by the protags of Fallout New Vegas, and Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 for that matter, just using weaponry that by all logic, cannot exist. I mean, look me in the eyes, and tell me that the Lone Wanderer wouldn't make a semi-auto pipe pistol that shoots mini-nukes. Which, by the way, are a condensed down version of a somewhat more powerful nuke than modern day nuclear warheads, and still way less powerful than the nukes used to cause the Fallout in the first place. Fallout New Vegas' courier, just gets Yes Man's help, and Fallout 3's protag, just uses the mothership, from the Mothership Zeta DLC. It's that simple. Also, you cannot tell me that the Cesar's Legion wouldn't be able to handle at least some of the fodder enemies.
@@fr3y438 I mean, yeah, the weaponry works well but I think the courier would just do a bunch of turbo, slow down time to a standstill, and wreck everything in sight.
Small correction: if this is an invasion of Hell's forces into a non-DOOM universe, they probably wouldn't have access to the Cyber Mancubi (or Revenants for that matter) because those are products of the UAC.
Doom Slayer is insanely fast but takes his time because he enjoys it. In comes V1 who has no concept of “fun” just “YUMMY YUMMY BLOOD” and stomps the armies of hell.
@@TENOZILIA They only turn to ash because lorewise the Slayer is the only one able to permanently kill them via absorption after putting them down… and have you even played either game series? In DOOM the demons _splatter and explode_ into blood and guts. V1 would have a _field_ day. Both the Slayer and V1 have taken on way bigger, way stronger, _way faster_ than a silly Marauder or something as weak as the Gladiator. V1 has solo’d Earthshaker mini-cities, parried punches from the Corpse of King Minos- a Godzilla-size opponent- and has dealt with opponents like Minos Prime and Sisyphus Prime whose speed is so ridiculous that you can’t see them dash. They pretty much teleport. If you played, let alone watched gameplay, it’s clear.
@@TENOZILIA V1 literally thrives on enemies that spurt less blood than DOOM’s demons. With so many slow, lumbering bloodbags- V1 will not only survive, but *_thrive._*
@@rougarabidyea you did and you downplayed the destroryers power and your arguments on cyberpunk while sound just show you know very little about the lore of the world. I don't think cyberpunk would win i just know you dont know a lot because you everything you said was either only kinda true or completely wrong.
@rougarabid I mean you did but you downplayed the destroyer by absolutely orders of magnitude. I'm genuinely wondering where you heard it was only a galactic threat. I'm pretty sure lore of borderlands 3 species (erridians) that it was responsible for wiping out in order to seal it was literally scanning the entire universe for something that could stop it and couldn't find anything 😂😂😂 Look, I understand you don't like borderlands 3's main story but the lore in it is fucking cracked 😂
So a couple things I would say about just the general concept of the video: So most of the setup I am fine with but I think including The Dark Lord and The Icon of Sin Would be in the invasion and that the universes HAVE to beat them especially the Dark Lord Davoth. So for the Icon of Sin he was only released to destroy Earth as a final chance to stop the Doom Slayer, this was because the Khan Maykr basically feared for their life and their universe so he was released to STOP THE DOOM SLAYER SPECIFICALLY, for Davoth I feel like he should not be included because he has very specific beef with The Doom Slayer and wouldn't care for these other verses stuff going on,. But to my main problem: You are undermining the borderlands universe! or at least not taking some really powerful things up! 1: Shields: It is pretty small compared to everything that's why this is first but... Shields in the Borderlands Universe aren't just health boosts but a separate entity that doesn't have passthrough, so anyone using a shield would be able to take one argent strike. 1: Digistruct: Now I am not going to explain that the Vault Hunters can come back infinitely, mostly because that the respawn mechanic is none cannon. BUT here is the thing where they can make infinite loader bots (At least loader bots, I don't think of other powerful bots for an explanation later!) So why do I think it is infinite? Well both because there is no lore saying otherwise and the gameplay and story kind of show that! The economy of the world is all out of whack guns costing tens up to hundreds of millions showing that raw material means nothing! This is also shown by the Tediore company being able to sell digistruct guns that don't cost a sent to reload. Another reason I think digistruct can make infinite raw materials and loader bots is because in the lore think of anytime something is a valuable resource? It is either A: A unique mineral never seen before/is extremely rare (Examples being Erdian, Moonstones or Seraph Crystals) or B: Something of cultural or technological greatness (Vault Keys being a primary one) and these both can't just be made easily! The only limiting factor I could see to digistructing is computational power. Loader Bots are simple but a Saturn Bot would need actual time to build, though you could make an infinite amount you still need a base to assemble them! Loader Bots you would just need a generator and a digistruct device. So the borderlands Universe has an infinite army of bots on the same level as at least imps. I feel this could definitely help ease the pains of dealing with excursions coming up and dealing with the hoards of smaller enemies letting the Vault Hunters breathe more. 2: Legendary doesn't equal Unique: This goes hand in hand with my last point, Most Legendary guns aren't special they aren't one of a kind, so the Borderlands Universe doesn't only have an infinite army of Loader Bots but can have an Infinite army of Loader Bots with Shredfirem, Business Calls and DEPAS (Double Penetrating Unkempt Harolds) with fastballs as grenades and shields. I feel like its also has to go without saying, when it comes to the universe coming to an end money is no matter. 3: Sirens (At Least going off the lore and story hints we have seen so far) are resistant to corruption: In the borderlands Universe it is pretty much stated that Sirens are the only true makers of choice and free will in the Borderlands universe, for them they are the epitome of freedom nothing being able so I feel they would be able to resist corruption from the demons because a corrupted version of you isn't you.... a corrupted siren seem antiparticle to sirens..... Also if you don't want to accept that in the Borderlands 3 DLC Love Guns and Tentacles all of the Vault Hunters can easily resist the corrupting aura of the vault monster and cult of the planet, even if you want to say they didn't stay long enough on the planet the Hunters literally made contact with the still beating heart of the monster so I feel they had to deal with some potent fuckery. 4: Troy can also get to the power level of Tyreen: Yes Troy doesn't realize that he can leach other creatures at the beginning but that doesn't mean he doesn't have that power, and with what I believe as was stated before the Borderlands Universe could have two Icon of Sin level creatures on their side. BUT THAT IS ALL SMALL CAKES WHEN WE COME TO THE LAST ACE THE BORDERLANDS UNIVERSE HAS.... 3: THE DESTROYER: So the first thing to get out of the way, How would the destroyer get out of Pandora? Option 1: Tyreen and Troys plan was to unleash The Destroyer, with a slight change of plans because of the demons they could easily just release the beast onto the hoards. 2: The Destory has a feeding mechanism that if not used to feed the destroyer would cause him to escape the prisoner needs to be fed or he will break that! 3: The Demons doing to Pandora what they did to earth would easily break The Destroyer out. So we covered how The Destroy would get out! Now power scaling. The Destroy has destroyed countless galaxy spanning civilizations, forced one of the smartest civilizations to commit SOUP OF SIDE (Family friendly :) he is strong, Some other things The Destroyer gains the intelligence of any creature he has eaten, so imagine all the brilliant minds of the multiple galaxies, these civilizations best military generals, eons of collective knowledge, millions of albert Einstiens in one AT MINUM earth sized monster, though the destroy was described to eat stars so take the size as you will, if The Destroy eats even one Marauder it would be over truly in tactical planning. One eye of The Destroy ONE would be able to destroy a moon ONE EYE JUST ONE and The Destroyer IS AT MINIMUM PLANET SIZE.... THAT EYE WASN'T EVEN A PERCENT OF THE DESTROY NOT EVEN A DROP OF THE DESTROYER.... The Destroyer would wipe any demon including the Icon of Sin. Let's also not forget to mention the destroyer when in its full form is immortal. I also want to go over some points you may use to disprove The Destroyer's power: 1: The original Vault Hunters were able to drive it back! False they were able to drive on mouth back in a weakened state (Specifically Designed to feed and not let out), 2: The Warrior is so weak compared to The Destroyer, This is for people who didn't go through all of the lore for 3, but a reminder The Warrior at the end of 2 was not supposed to control or even fight The Destroyer he was meant to prevent people from opening Pandora it self... Basically a Glorified Bodyguard. 3: Tyreen after consuming The Destroyer was killed: So without trying to be to much fan theory I am pretty sure it is explained that Tyreen wasn' brought up to The Destroys status as much as The Destroyer was brought down to hers... Also I don't believe Tyreen could eat The Destroyer that fast not going to lie. So would I say the Borderlands Universe could win against a Doom Invasion? Maybe, 100 percent if Davoth wasn't included, Would I say it's a traditional win? Not really to win against the Invasion the Hunters would have to doom their galaxy but either way The Destroyer gets out even after the Hunters are gone... In the End it comes down to The Destroyer vs a Doom invasion... and I say like 55/45 Doom to Borderlands. Also I would love to have a FRIENDLY debate on this! Maybe in this comment thread or on Discord so please do tell. I would also just be happy with you respoing to this comment as well!
The destroyer would do damage, he is literally an eater of civilization... advanced ones sure he is more than capable doing something insane and if I am right he goes stronger each time. More of a force of nature at this point
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Epic battle fantasy 5 vs doomguy demon invasion be interesting
If you want another idea like this I would like to see survival characters or just any video game characters in the constant
Judging from how you described Prophet, I would say that he would have to adopt 1 of 2 methods to turn the tide in his favor. Either he waits for DOOM tech to be developed by the humans like it was in DOOM, giving him things like the BFG, but also allowing him to possibly harness argent energy in the same way they must have done it. Or he ditches his dead host body and physically takes over a demon. As for the Cyberpunk universe, we see a lot of the Miltech Corpo Mercenaries, police, and Arasaka assassins. They're all probably on par with whatever is a step above fodder. They might be able to give V and Adam Smasher could maybe have a sort of faction battle against demons. I know it's MCs vs. the invasion but in Cyberunk's case it might be more realistic to assume that the MCs aren't alone. Stellar video, really got me thinking
We've seen the champion titan's corpse which is 2000 feet tall if it is proportional to normal titans based off his head.
I've used decimate properly... And it frustrates me with how many people don't
Honestly, a lot of the Borderlands universe is legitimately spiteful enough to unleash The Destroyer as a hail-mary for no other reason than to deny the Demons' conquest. It is explicitly stated to have the ability to destroy the entire universe if fully released. If worse came to worse and the Hunters and Corps were backed into the proverbial corner, they can just drop Elpis onto Pandora and let The Destroyer do its thing.
They'll all be dead, and their universe will be annihilated, but it would also prevent the Demons from fully winning.
The demons would kill the destroywe, raise it as a new demon, finish their conquest and move on.
@@dgagamingaesir You're misunderstanding what The Destroyer is. It's not alive in the conventional sense. It's an interdimensional lovecraftian force of nature. Its presence alone literally burns the fabric of the universe. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that The Destroyer _is_ the concept of destruction given physical form, much like how Davoth and the Demons may be collectively considered Conquest and Ambition given physical form.
Every time we've faced it, it was an incomplete or partially-awakened being that held a fraction of a fraction _of a fraction _*_of a fraction_* of its full strength. Every time we "kill" it, we've simply delayed and distracted it enough so the Prison it should be trapped in can re-close the seal.
The reason why it's trapped is because the Eridians were completely incapable of killing it. Their Vaults are capable of materializing weapons from across time and space, yet they were forced to sacrifice their entire race in order to seal it away because no weapon that does or will exist in the entirety of space and time is or will be capable of killing it.
The Destroyer will probably not destroy the Demons, but it will destroy the entirety of the Borderlands Universe and kill anyone and anything inside of it by simply existing there. The Demons may just be sent back to Hell after their deaths, but the universe they were killed in will simply be gone.
@@K2niarDneK And tbh the khan maykr can just recreate the universe like what she offered to do for doomguy.
She has no reason to but yk..
Demons: Oh no! A universe is gone!
Anyway,
@@BreadTeleporter1968 It wouldn't be about beating the demons at that point, it would be about not letting them fully win.
It would be a massive, spiteful middle finger from an entire universe of insane, suicidal assholes.
The Icon of Sin watching in horror when a dude from Pennsylvania throws a bar of soap at them:
DUSK dude solos the Doom Universe
@@cheesegoblin8850lmao
I still love that David Symanzki added that as a joke, left it there thinking nobody was gonna find it, and then when people found it he just left it there like "oh yeah I forgot about that lol"
@@cheesegoblin8850 with the bar of soap 😔
Ah, you would think so, but the bar of soap doesn't work on final bosses.
Considering that Doom humanity did reverse engineer argent energy into their otherwise Earth based tech, shouldnt it mean the Prophet who's entire deal is adaptive nanomachines be able to do the same after coming into contact with it?
Probably
That’s a good point
Agreed
I don't think he would be able to do that before he gets sealed because there is at least over 1000 demons
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Considering that Prophet is a master tactician, has stealth tech and is stronger than the majority of the grunts, I think he should survive long enough to adapt.
“The khan maykr has been around demons for millions of years and doesnt seem to corrupted” my brother she sacrifices planets to hell so her people dont die
"That's not corruption! It's...uh...negotiation! yea that's it."
@@bendystrawz2832 she needs to do it because hell produces the energy they use to be themselves, if they don't use that energy, they mutate
Actually Universes not Planets
I'm not sure why, but for some reason, the image of Doomguy picking up a new Glock at a store only to slay a god with it is a pretty hilarious image.
Yeah his guns are also weaker then his punch because he wants them to suffer.
The 4x damage does nothing to him whereas it kills everyonr who uses it. And again, it's him just deciding to boost his weapons even more.
Like how the rage melee his him just decided to be more efficient and less of a torturer.
@@poutineausyropderable7108 Apparently, he doesn't canonically have to use guns. It's mostly just a gameplay feature, I believe. However, his guns are shown to scale with his powers because of the divinity machine.
My favorite bit of Doomguy lore is that he uses guns because he loves them, and they are actually slower than using his fists
He could also procure some of Glock's other offerings and have a decent chance
What is cooler, casting *FIST* or *GUN* ?
Truly a question for the ages 🤔
"V and Adam Smasher are humanities last hope." Morgan Blackhand: Am I a joke to you?
Is he still around by the time of 2077? It was like 50 post the ttrpg so he might not be around
@@SpacePompadour It is implied he is. He doesn't have a drink in the Afterlife after all, and to have one you need to be dead.
Plus cyberpunk characters typically have longer lifespans. Just look at Saburo Arasaka's 158 years or Hanako looking 30 despite being 78. Medicine in cyberpunk works miracles for life extensions assuming you can afford it with the lifestyle of a corpo or a badass edgerunner solo.
He quite literally doesn't exist...no feat...no appearance..nothing...so yea no point discussing him
@@kiro253 Op said "everything was canon." Therefore, just because he isn't in 2077 doesn't mean he isn't somewhere else. Under that logic, V should not be a thing then. L take.
You need also make this with halo, Metroid, ultrakill and half life
V1 would kick ass you can argue blood in ultrakill can be used as an energy source like Doom so V1 can heal themselves and V1 has strong enough weapons to kill any demon from Doom.
Yes
Samus can create black holes need I say more
That would go hard
I want to see who would survive a Combine Invasion that'd be cool
As soon as I heard you had the invasions in the verse and not in the doom verse I knew it was over. They can’t deal with the icon of sin. There’s no crucible
He skipped out on A LOT
Higher demons can chill in hell and posess /mentallyattack people in different universes without respite.
A single archphile can resurrect all killed demons.
A summoner can send out an omnidirectional lazarus wave.
Higher demons can shrug off nuclear bombs easily.
Gore nests create inverse quantum fields that tear apart spacetime.
And so on.
Back in my day you killed the icon of sin the old fashioned way, by shooting at it until it dies!
No but really, you can still fill it with lead.
And while that may not kill it, it will give you ample time to close the portal allowing it and hell through, or to contain the icon in some way like the makyrs did in eternal.
@@AnimatedTerror It won't work. Maykers had heart of son of Traitor who was the mind of the Icon, after Doom Slayer destroyed it, even Maykers couldn't contro, Icon
@@AnimatedTerror nah, you kill John Romero.
Step one: Kill John Romero
Step two: win the game
I think the thing that's going for the Borderlands universe is that most enemies in the entire universe are pretty strong and capable of defeating a couple of low-level demons with overwhelming firepower, instead of it just being the main characters. The downside is, the main characters aren't capable of surviving for a good while on their own.
I like this point because it highlights that compared to other universes the borderlands protagonists aren’t really any stronger than the people their fighting in a equipment stand point like if you fight a pycho in melee and you didn’t do a melee build your going to lose without any abilities
This essentially means that even the weakest enemies scale while poorly do scale to the VH’s meaning that the lesser demons almost have to either get into a fair 1v1 or gank every single peon which with both sides having effectively infinite numbers makes it a pretty close fight for the light-heavy range
Unless you give them the new u machines which aren't canon. If you give them the new u machines, then you have an infinite number of vault hunters until their money runs out.
Counterpoint, Sal with grog and dpuh
@@whenisdinner2137 not even! They waive the fee if you have less than 100 bucks. Truly infinite vault hunters.
@@ovoid_ovvie that was a game mechanic be, as the New U mechines basically say you are immortal until you can't pay. Now realistically it's going to become a free service until the war is over, because demons don't need the New U except in hell itself, and money would be pointless to still be a function variable.
Quick Crysis lore. In the first game you play as nomad, then in the second game you play as Alcatraz, Alcatraz wearing prophet’s nano suit, in between Crysis two and three Alcatraz gets so traumatized that Prophet takes control if Alcatraz’s body
Also he is forgetting the best strategy in crysis two and three against the Ceph. Rocket launch spam. In crysis your melee speed never changes but the damage does so get the rocket launcher and melee has fast as you can against Ceph, it won’t work against Cell
Davoth be chilling till a gopro beats him with some spare change
Davoth 1 shots
The gopro and his verse gets foddersized.
Sure, V1 can take on Earthmovers and the Corpse of King Minos, but I doubt it can damage even one normal Hell Titan, because in order to even damage one of them, you'll need Wraith or Argent Energy to even get it to penetrate through the skin. So technically, V1 can't really kill even one DOOM Hell Titan with its weapons. Sure, V1 can dodge and parry, using his guns will be about as effective as throwing pebbles at a tank.
V1 is just a machine. He would get torn to pieces by the 'heavy' and 'super heavy' demons of the Doom universe, just like what happened to Samuel Hayden.
@@significancedry6627ok but like in ultrakill v1 manages to hurt Gabriel.
He manages to hurt a biblically accurate Angel! Dooms demons are more sci fi nowadays but ultrakill is more connected to Dante’s inferno and therefore the abrahamic god who is capable of all things.
Yeah V1 managed to cause Gabriel to bleed. This actually scared Gabriel because like, you know that shouldn’t be possible.
But he did it. Dooms demons are tough but if V1 comes along it’s game over.
V1 is literally built different.
35:20 debatably Adam smasher wouldn’t be affected by the soul ripping because it’s arguable wether he even has a soul anymore or if through all his augments he’s now just effectively an ai that thinks of itself as “Adam smasher” probably wouldn’t matter in the end, but an interesting thought.
I mean V's soul is basically already being corrupted by Johnny. So if they suck the rest of V's soul out than you have Johnny to deal with and since he's a construct he probably can't get sucked out of the body.
I think Adam smasher would just switch to hell side considering his character and well he’d go from A corporate solider to literal demon commander why would he turn that down if that would end up well for him I can’t say but I believe he would join them willingly
Argent can infect AI I think.
@@StarSteve681 I’m almost certain he’s gonna volunteer to become something along the lines of the Doom Hunter, Dread Knight, Marauder, etc.
@@StarSteve681 "damn, arasaka ain't shit."
Ironically out of all of his weapons, think Prophet's bow could actually be the most deadly one, since it's effectively a railgun powered by his immense strength.
i am not sure how his bow works, but actual bows do not become stronger in stornger hands. A strong-armed archer can draw them more easily, but maximum bow poundage depends on itsconstruction and not the archer themselves
@@sinistertwister686tell me you didn't played Crysis 3, without telling me you didn't played Crysis 3. His bow was designed to be only used with a nano suit, it has multiple fire mods(quick or slow) and arrow types (normal, explosive, flammable and EMP) and it allows him to stay in his cloak mode. So yes. The bow will be the most useful weapon.
@@sinistertwister686 Just take one look at the crazy stuff that happens in Crysis and you’ll see how a bow’s strength being determined by the archer is the least offensive thing done to physics.
@@GhoulBandit this isn't what I am arguing. I am arguing that bows are not "powered" by their users. Even if this bow has insane draw weight it still isn't powered by the archer.
@@CollegeBallYouknow That's fair. Too neatpicky of me, I agree.
I hate being that kind of person but
ALL lasers travel at highspeed, they're all made of light.
Classifications like "chemical laser" or "fiber laser" refer to how it is generated.
For example a chemical laser uses a chemical reaction to power the lught beam.
Nuclear lasers are the most metal.
They are powered by the radiation released by a nuclear explosion that energizes the lasing material and firing an EXTREMELY powerful beam for mere fractions of a second before the whole thing is turned into a very angry ball of plasma.
I understand. I just don't know if the authors/creators of fiction know what they're doing when they show characters dodging such.
I would like to say that, regular weapons would in fact work on the demons. That's exactly what happened in the original Doom and Doom 2 and Doom 64, a long time before the Slayer acquired his Divinity powers, he was just a man with a gun. This alone would move every universe, including our own, at least up to partial Super Heavy status, as you could just throw Carl Gustaf/AT-4/Javelin rounds at Barons, Doom Hunters, and Tyrants until they died (just like you could in the original, enough rockets will kill anything). Archie would be a problem due to his shield and his summoning, and the Marauder would be the hard cap for most universes just due to his impenetrable shield and speed.
The biggest problem and why you see Earth's military and the ARC getting shellacked is the SHEER NUMBERS of the demons and their ability to corrupt/possess people, not necessarily their durability or hitting power. If you notice, most of the giant Jaeger-sized mechs (both Sentinel and ARC) are mostly intact but non-operational. I have an idea that a lot of them had their crew killed by thousands of fodder swarming the mech and getting inside or by their crew becoming corrupt/possessed.
Argent Energy didn’t exist in the original Doom games. Remember Doomguy went back in time Billions of years and introduced the Maykrs to the Demons. This lead to the creation of Argent energy and a MASSIVE power increase to the demons. In that original timeline Earth was able to fight off the demons in the first city they invaded. In the new timeline even with Samuel building giant mechs and giving humanity Sentinel technology they were still overwhelmed in a few weeks. The demons in Eternal are not the same as the ones in the OG games.
@@rougarabid I don't think there's any evidence for the Slayer going back in time. Since the demons and Hell itself is pretty much timeless, I was under the impression that he was trapped in Hell after the 64 version for an untold amount of "time" until he popped out a portal into Argent D'nur at roughly the same time that he effectively entered Hell in his own universe (since he didn't age and was more or less the exact same physically, even in his old gear which would have fallen apart just from time if it flowed normally), putting his Earth and the new Earth on roughly the same tech level.
Secondly, we can see the still functioning energy (presuming plasma) turrets at the ARC base and the UAC Phobos facility shooting Cacodemons out of the sky, which means that at least something equivalent to a plasma gun's output in energy can hurt and destroy them.
Third, we can see very clearly the skeletons of dead demons in the Eternal E3 teaser, (The one where it shows the Slayer crushing the skull of a demon that an Imp had knocked from it's skeleton) implying that something was able to kill them before the Slayer arrived.
@@ericstone2318he’s reliving the invasion of Earth from the original Doom games. He’s back in time in Earth’s universe not Hell’s.
@@rougarabid So you're saying the E3 teaser is him reliving the events of Doom 2, so why are there Hell tentacles, and the new version of the Arachnotron with the top mounted plasma cannon, and the Hellborn Baron with the arm blades, and his shotgun has the meathook. Not to mention that you see several freshly dead (no decay/skeleton) demons including a prominent Imp. Also, what could have hit that demon hard enough to skeletonize it, because it wasn't there long enough to decay naturally.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that most firearms will work on fodder and some heavies (squishy bags like the Cacodemon, Arachnotron's exposed brain), while higher caliber and anti-material type weapons will work on most heavies and maybe one super heavy (Archie), with anti-tank weapons being able to work on most almost every demon besides the Marauder, the Titans, and the Boss monsters, with something like a 2,000lb bomb,16in battleship cannons and bigger being at least able to damage a Titan and some boss-types if they're able to hit, like the Gladiator (who is just an old-school Hell Knight)
This whole video is just wank that oversells how strong the enemies in Doom are lmao. Yeah the demons are strong but they're not THAT strong, there's plenty of conventional weapons you use in Doom that kill the demons. Like shit, Cyberpunk alone has a lot of crazy powerful weapons that would absolutely demolish demons, and there are a lot of other strong figures mentioned in the lore that could handle them.
We are leaving out several major factors in Boarderlands. The scale and ease of instant manufacturing of killer robots, cloning being easy access and quick with all your memories and combat experience in tact and every single person in that universe has multiple guns on them at all times would make it a nightmare for the demon's to try and take over especially when so many normal psychos are likely just as powerful as an Imp and the planets are full of them.
If you are refering to the NewYou Stations with the cloning thing then no they do not. The NewYou Stations are not a cannon thing that exist in universe for the Borderlands Games. They are simply there as part of a game mechanic so that you don't have to reload a save if you die outside a boss fight.
Other than that I am in full agrement with you.
@@kahnathara6542 my friend. New you stations might not be cannon....but *digistructing* IS.
Digitised items immidiately being constructed like hyperion loaders, Gaige's Deathtraps, axton's turrets, all the catch a ride stations are all proof that yes, digital to phisical, instantanious printing exists.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 I am more than willing to admit that I could be wrong, but as far as I can remember Digistruct tech does not work with organic material like flesh and bone. Which means that cloning is still not a thing. And Digistruct tech is also why I agreed with chakat on everything else in the first place.
@@kahnathara6542 sorry lad, i might have phraised it in a hostile way!
You are a 100 percent in the right, just wanted to point out the tech itself still exists, and functions. (With your already stated limitation)
Just might've put it down in the wrong way.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 You're good, I didn't take what you said in a hostel fashion, and I didn't mean to come across as hostel myself if I did. It is hard for me to tell if someone is purposely being hostel or not when I can't actually hear them, so no hard feelings or anything.
Why do you sound angry at the demons like they did something personally to upset you
They killed Daisy…the fuckers.
@@rougarabid completely understandable have a great day
@@rougarabid That's the only reason needed
@@rougarabid Yes, yes they did. And it only *DOOM* ed them more. they pissed off Doom Guy by killing Daisy, and they pissed off every single person who has played any of the DOOM games as well.
Demons are opps no exceptions
Okay, hear me out. Would the monkeys from BTD6 survive the doom legion?
Supermonkey could kill the icon of sin by throwing a lot of darts really fast.
"Foolish creature, do you really thi- OH SATAN STOP THROWING DARTS AT ME AAAAAAA"@@psychicjellyfish9466
@@psychicjellyfish9466 The True Sun God also exists in BTD6
With farms it would be easy
Easily
You what your intro made me realize. The demon NEVER felt fear in their lives until the doom slayer showed up lol.
To summarise 9:50 doomguy is like the Orks from Warhammer. He believes he is stronger so he quite literally becomes stronger. And that belief extends to ANYTHING he views and uses as a weapon.
Survival Challenge suggestion: "Would These Sci-Fi Universes Survive The Flood From Halo?" You could do the Tyranids instead of The Flood, but I think the Flood would be more challenging while the Nids would be a bit more fair.
Ok as a halo fan that’s sick asf and their adaptability is insane
I'm not the most well versed to Halo lore, most of what I know comes from playing the first 2-3 games in coop with my friend on the last few days, but there's 2 things that comes in my mind.
1. Resistance wise, they pretty much don't resist gunfire much, they can be tanky but they're certainly not immune per se, so many universes wouldn't have a firepower issue, at least for ground combat.
2. I'm not sure how the flood infection would react to some of the more "unique" races of some universes, so that could be interesting to think about. Take the Zerg, due to their nature, assimilative, regenerative, with parasites of their own, would the flood be able to infect them, and if yes, would it even be to a similar degree to what we see in halo?
All in all, a pretty interesting scenario I'm curious to see.
Essentially, the flood is a corrupted god, assume it can use any biomass, and if whatever has a nervous system, it can be infected, those are the rules.
I'd watch that
I wonder if Project Moon's universe for their 3 games would be included in this
maybe this video should have bin tilted as "how long would these shooter heros survive the doom invasion"
Ok. But the tf2 mercs would probably thrive if we gave them every possible mvm upgrade for their best possible loadout-
@imakecrappyvideos9360 Their regular weapons would probably be useless against many of the bigger demons. They will need new, more advanced weapons to actually stand a chance
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I don't think that argument works. Soldier can use the same rocket launcher as Ranger from Quake and Ranger uses that rocket launcher to blow up the same sorts of demons that Doom guy fights thanks to Quake and Doom sharing a universe.
Ok I am struggling to explain this. Let's blitz it.
Every very soldier in every TF game has been using rocket launchers as powerful as what Ranger used. Spy, the weakest mercenary, can survive a hit from one of these rockets, two if he is lucky. The same goes for some of the weaker demons in Quake. The same sorts of demons who Doom guy fights. And if Spy dies in two hits from a rocket launcher that can kill demons just as quickly, then weapons that kill Spy just as fast should be just as effective when used against demons
And lastly, you can't convince me that a crocket isn't going to hurt a demon.
And ignoring the mercs, yetis are described in a way not too dissimilar to a hell knight. And Saxton Hale one shots them. With his bare hands. I think the Demons have their work cut out for them.
@@redstonewarrior0152 No, because as explained in previous replies and comments by the OP of hte video, the demons we fight in Eternal are cranked up because of argent energy, go watch "How Powerful is the Doomslayer" and you'll find out that basically nothing will survive the invasion.
Note. Atom smasher survived the explosion of arasaka which was used with a nuke and then he got even stronger than that with even more cybernetic enhancements. And if you read some of the extra stuff for the game and tabletop RPG there's a lot of weaponry that just the average person can get ahold of that's as strong if not stronger than tanks and there's plenty of weapons even stronger than that.
Hot take
He would beat the Slayer
@@Agencyagent34 that take is ice cold. Like absolute zero
@Agencyagent34 I need to know how, the Slayer beat Davoth soundly, and Davoth was so powerful that his anger transformed the realm of Jekkad into Hell, which in Doom, is unbound by space and time
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@@Agencyagent34Reason that’s a hot take ( it’s not true lol)
Demons open a portal into the Warhammer 40K universe, look around, offer an apology, and quietly go home.
😆😆😆😆 sounds likely
Open portal
Drop off Doomguy
"He's your problem now"
the demons would feel sorry for everyone there since that verse is messed up already, but considering how hell feeds off of suffering, i'd say wh40k is a feast to just sit in
@@SWY1356 How do we know Khorn isn't from the Doom universe and playing the slow game for the fun of it?
Darkwatch is an old favorite of mine. That you put this game in this list makes me happy in a way few things do.
I should play it again tony.
I swear every time I get a revolver and can fan the trigger in a video I legitimately try to make the gun just like the redeemer
If you watch the "How Powerful Is The Doomslayer" video, you'll find out that almost nothing can survive the invasion
Yeah
Batman with prep time according to fans
That doesn’t upscale the demons that just shows how broken the Doomslayer is.
@@dc7981🤢 Ew. The Shadow rip-off. No thanks. We don't need Batman sparing Demons and putting them into verifiably corrupt prisons only so they can break free later.
@@TrashCanOdor don't forget demons are not the only thing hell has. They are just a part of the invasion. The real invasion is hell itself a higher dimensional LIVING BEING unlimited by space time or dimensions. So like the original comment said there is no chance.
The fact you've consistently skipped over V1 from Ultrakill is crazy because A. I'm 90% certain he's an indie character and B. He definitely a shooter hero since his game is hard-core inspired by DOOM and other Boomer-shooter.
Not sure I'd call V1 a hero tbh
Don't worry, he said that v1 might be in the 2nd part of this series
V1 has been on the list for a bit along with over 50 other characters. I’ll definitely get to him eventually.
Are we gonna pretend that V1 stands a chance.
I mean a chance of losing, bro will solo hell, the slayer couldn’t manage it, he’s too slow, but V1 got the moves.
Honestly, now I'm just stuck imagining a Marauder going after V1 with his axe and getting absolutely *flexed* on with a parry
21:31 doom guy is set on getting revenge for his bunny that the icon of sins can’t change my guy
10:26 talking about how tough the pinky is while one-shoting it and watching it ragdoll into the distance is peak comedy
You get me.
Woah, I have been trying to remember about Darkwatch for YEARS at this point. Like no, seriously, I always remembered loving the game, but could not for the life of me remember the name! Thank you!
Kid Icarus Uprising would be a good obscure pick for a second part
Aaaaa
I just want to thank you for bringing up Prophet, and the Crysis series in general, haven't seen anyone so far actually giving him some credit. He may not be too powerful, but it's always nice to see someone taking about him.
The only thing I have to bring up is his cloaking, something that I constantly used in crysis 3, and Prophet does have a special bow, with explosive arrows.
I do also state though, that Prophet does still have the capability to die from certain weapons, created either by humans or the aliens, not entirely sure.
I don't argue his spot in this, just stating. Have a good day, anyone that read this, and remember, someone out there does still care about you, no matter what your mind says
He should be able to use argent energy, even humans in doom universe do it. With argent energy he could stay in "maximum nanosuit" mode indefinately.
@@libertyprime1614 as said though, the reason humans are able to use it is because they had Hayden
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I feel like the Borderlands Universe could stand a decent chance of pushing back the Doom Invasion if they unleashed The Destroyer, which is apparently a Galaxy Devouring monster. It probably wouldn't defeat Dagon anyways, and unleashing The Destroyer from Pandora is a death sentence for the Borderlands Universe, but it's worth consideration maybe.
I guess...there's also maybe the...God like being at the end of New Tales from the Borderlands? I'm not sure if New Tales is Canon or not. I know the original Tales from the Borderlands is Canon, but New Tales...? Anyways uh...one of the endings for New Tales from the Borderlands is this God like being, being created or unleashed or whatever, and apparently they can just...end all life in the universe within an instant...which they did in one ending...
I'm not sure how that would fair, and I don't even want to talk about it any further. New Tales from the Borderlands is a worse shit stain on the Borderlands Timeline/Story than even Borderlands 3
Fun fact about doom demons: they destroy and consume the entire universe and the icon of sin whilst just existing can and will consume entire univereses into hell given enough time
@@theenderdestruction2362 I know, I've watched the video.
Just saying a point to consider in possibly defending the Universe from the Doom Invasion is the Destroyer, which is an entity that grows in intelligence and power with every person/civilization it devours.
Though like I said, releasing The Destroyer itself is a GG for the Borderlands Universe itself, so its not like the Universe would be saved...but it would at least help push back the Doom Invasion to an extent. But even if we pretend the Destroyer could solo the Doom Invasion, the Borderlands Universe would still...die...The Destroyer in Borderlands is meant to be a cosmic being too power for even the most technologically advanced and powerful society in the Universe's history to defeat, they had to seal it away, and even then they had to design the cage with a feeding tray to keep it satiated so it wouldn't try and break out, which implies the prison can't even hold it if it really tries to get out
@duskgaming18 This is fair. it's basically die or die on your own terms, but that leads to the scary thought of the destroyer getting corrupted by hell. That's just another weapon for hell to use against other universes
@@theenderdestruction2362 True. The Destroyer being corrupted by Hell's Influence/Power, similar to what was mentioned for the Leech Siren would probably be even worse, cause The Destroyer is already a civilization ending, solar system devouring beast who just keeps getting stronger as it feeds. It becoming yet another Demon for Hell, would be like adding yet another Nuke into the situation. Like it won't change much, but the fact Borderland's biggest weapon would switch sides wouldn't help either
Moze would actually make the Demons commit sewerslide. Heck, if Moze was the DOOM SLAYER'S daughter, I'd not be surprised.
A "just for fun" suggestion would be Team Fortress 2, since their in-universe respawns and zanier weapons (like the Midas-esque Gold Frying Pan or disintegrating Phlogistinator) would not be enough against the forces of Hell.
A more even suggestion would be Bioshock, not because of plasmids or Big Daddies or Songbird but because of Elizabeth's reality warping tears, especially when she fully unlocks her power and has multiverse-level awareness.
She would be still far below the maykrs and higher demons.
Tf2 would be gone in literal hours, they have not even got comparable UAC tech. Additionally the respawns seem to be non-canon (aside from the Mann vs machine respawn machine). Bioshock would be just as screwed. Reality bending tears, cool, infinite universes to be invaded. Rapture would literally boil as the demonic corruption takes ahold of the oceans and plasmids are nothing when the demon’s lowest of the low foot soldiers are IMPS.
@@BreadTeleporter1968 You fool, you forgot about one of the greatest monsters TF2 has ever seen: The Giant Living Tumor Filled Loaf Of Bread. Also, TF2 doesn't really have a cannon, it is pretty much entirely community based stuff, so there are either multiple canon realities/dimensions, or they are all part of one single reality/dimension, and just spread out over multiple alternate, yet extremely similar, versions of earth. So, uh, to sum up my point: TF2's mercenaries, and especially the trio of: The Medic, The Heavy, and The Engineer, could absolutely handle the demonic invasion. I mean, look at TF2, The game has a coconut jpeg in the files, that it cannot run without! Yes, seriously! TF2 is pretty much the be all, end all, of overpowered and completely and utterly BS universes and games. Also, Merasmus and SAXTON HALE, are both stupidly powerful, Merasmus due to magic (and the fact he has literally no morals), and SAXTON HALE because of money, exercise, lack of morals, and being AUSTRALIAN. Also, Engineer can literally just show those demons some good old fashioned *Southern Hospitality*, and deal with the fodder and heavy enemies easily.
@@fr3y438 I’m going to assume the loaf of bread is a joke. The heavy is easy to take down by anything with some slight gall. And would likely get possessed and become a chain gunner. Medic sold his souls years ago so he would not be able to be easily possessed (although The Icon of Sin and Davoth could probably manage it easily) And same with engineer. Once he’s possessed his sentries will run out of ammo. Merasmus is somewhat plausible but hell’s magic is much stronger than his. The only real contender I see here is Saxton Hale. Although he is still mortal. Also, TF2 has a canon. The comics canon is seemingly the major canon. I have no idea where you pulled that idea from.
@@BreadTeleporter1968it actually depends on what cannon you go by because if you go by the comics and taunts not only are the mercs other than medic immortal as they dont have a soul, soldier has a taunt where in one punch he causes a yeti to litterally explode, they would eventually fall but it would take id say around 5-15 years as long as they play their cards right
I love how you take both really well known and completely unheard of characters/series, it really expands the interest of the videos as well as the viewers 'palette' when it comes to games.
This is 90% of what convinced me to buy Darkwatch. The other 10% was looking it up and finding out that High Moon did it. I ain't never clicked buy faster. Awesome vid, btw
1:03:04 you forgot the most important detail: Ava hasn't had voicelines yet
Borderlands is an interesting one since characters are essentially immortal (not counting for story reasons) due to the New U stations. Loaders cannot be corrupted and can be built from nothing just like the characters. There are also plenty of people who are already insane so demon mind fuckery wouldn't work on them. They may not be able to deal with the big boys but they would probably just chalk that up to "Just another day on Pandora"
New u stations are not canon
If the loaders are powered by AI then Argent should be able to corrupt them.
@owaine-changaming and even if they were I'm pretty sure the demons could just figure out how they keep coming back eventually and destroy all the new u stations
@owaine-changaming Digistruct technology is which can create incredibly powerful robots instantaneously.
Also, the raid bosses we're not talked about at all. Those type of kaiju battles would be crazy against the titans.
I know this isn't really relevant, but I can think of literally 1 instance where the word "decimate" was used correctly. In the 2005 rendition of Doctor Who, in the season 3 finale, The Master does actually give the literal command to "remove one tenth of the population", and actually uses the word decimate when he describes doing that.
I kinda wanna see how this would work with Ultrakill. Like, can Hell be corrupted by the demons? Can Hell take the souls of demons? Can Hell (and anything inside) absorb Argent energy? Because Hell is alive. And Hell is also something that even God couldn't destroy.
In addition, blood is an energy source in Ultrakill. So, how would that work? If the demons in Doom have their blood be Argent energy, could it be absorbed like blood?
These are some very important questions that need to be awnsered for any theory can be made on what could happen.
Their blood is normal, the slayer gets covered without consequences, and before someone says, “but the slayer can withstand higher temperatures than V1” or something, first of all, not true, second of all, he takes damage from lava, which means that demon blood is regular blood.
Dying to lava is just a gamplay mechanic, the codex in 2016 states that that when a demon dies the argent in there body become super hot, so hot that it infact literally burns up the bodys of the demons.
The slayer has tanked way worse for example he tanked the vega core explosion which ripped a hole through space-time, resisted the reality warping affects of demons and the icon of sin and resisted argent energy attacks which burns way hotter then lava ever would the hardest hit that V1 ever took were probably from syphisis which had the power to destroy the city of heaven which doesnt really say much especially when doom has fought the litteral god of the multiverse and beings that can move at speeds faster then light .@@rhyderleming5851
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God in ultrakill created a universe.
The icon of sin is enough for him.
In short - Lovecraftian horror everywhere...
Vault Hunters just rushing in to repeatedly kill demon lords over and over for loot
Every other shooter: *Desperately fighting tooth and nail to survive*
Tf2: Conga Line!
Salvador grog + DP harold build 💀
DPUH, Fleet, Fibber(the broken one) the list goes on for what Sal brakes when paired with the grog.
1. Talk about anointment. Troy documents that anointment is the process of absorbing eridium into a non-siren. This process makes the announted turn into eridium, which directly translates to elemental damage, teleportation abilities, and vastely heightened durability. And with how troy described it, it sounds like a power that all sirens can do. But, even if it isn't, ava is guaranteed that ability.
2. Further discussion about eridium. Eridium is a nigh industructable material. Eridian technology were the only things which were capable of harming harming raw eridium in borderlands 3. Eridium was also responsible for corrupting several creatures, and through refinement created an element known as "slag" which was normal damage in all ways except for how it amplified non-slag damage. Both of these abilities are reminiscent of anointment. Eridium's most known ability however, is the power to amplify siren abilities. Maya gained the ability to do complex actions during phaselock, lilith giuld teleport an entire town, and tyreen phasegrasped the fucking moon. Sidenote, lilith brandished elpis, jot pandora.
3. in borderlands 2 we're told eridium came from the borderlands 1 vault, a vault of which contained a very small portion of the destroyer's power... A very small portion of the destroyer's power, awakened an ancient material across the entire universe. The eye of this creature ALONE was responsible for the giant puple hole bored into elpis. I'm not going to delve into the rest if what the destroyer can do, I think others may have talked about it.
4. That's about all of my borderlands points, but i do have one about doom. You phrase the doomhunter as a machine enhanced demon specifically designed to fight the doom slayer. I want to bring up the possibility of the demons also making a counter for other characters. Like adam smasher, or the entirety of borderlands in general.
5. I just thought of something. I remember from my short time of playing doom that the doomslayer universe took some materials from the demons, and obviously the demons could do the same vice versa. Would that provide any sort of advantage to the universes?
I will answer whatever questions i can in the replies. I will also fix any spelling mistakes I learn of, and make my own counter against the borderlands universe.
Borderbuster.
Borderbuster is a demon built into a mech designed with very particular purposes. The mech is designed to be very fast and durable, it uses short range argent energy weapons and barriers, as well as long range guns reminiscent of a chain gun. It also has a rocket propelled spike which shatters eridium, and pretty much anything else. it can focus it's Natural corruption skill into a laser, building hell around itself to make locations to it's own advantage. It can fly, teleport short distances, and generate argent energy from eating enemies.
Viola, this creature was based on wotan the invincible, the destroyer, and the eridium resonator. I also cross referenced with the doom wiki.
The dark ones chilling when out of nowhere some guy pulls up like "hi there! Would you like to sign my petition?
bro the kool-aid man line had me in stitches, omfg LOL. awesome video.
Sci fi heroes vs Mass Effect Reaper Invasion
I believe you underestimate Cyberpunk as a universe. Smasher and V are the strongest individuals, the strongest solos... but even they won't be able to take on the CERBERUS from "Somewhat Damaged" mission in the Phantom Liberty (since V can't fight it and this robot was made to work in the EXTREME conditions). And this robot is merely for maintance. There are actual militaries with actual robots run by AI and actual WMD etc.
Wasn't CERBERUS a verd secretive And very much not mass pruducable robot?
And even then I doubt it could out muscle a Titan chucking it into space.
@@matijasostojic4288 It was an outdated robot from 2010s. Secretive and pretty rare, but not unique and not even cutting-edge. And I am pretty sure that old Cyberpunk 2020 TTRPG had some even more bonkers shit that isn't supposed to be used be Solos... because its an actual military-grade gear.
And, no, I believe Cyberpunk verse still loses this war. But it will hold its ground better than people think. The best chance would be to let all the insane AIs into the web and allow them access to all military hardware. It will ruin the planet for humans as well, so lose-lose codition
The Humans in doom could literally blow up planets with a single weapon. That's LEAGUES above anything that the Cyberpunk universe had, and they still got obliterated. The sentinels, with the help of a literal unbeatable warrior and giant mechs couldn't prevent their homes from getting invaded. The Khan Makyr, an immortal interdimensional being, had her home overtaken in mere seconds after the Icon of Sin broke free.
Sorry, but V, Smasher, and the entirety of Night City wouldn't last a single day.
@@Jane-qh2yd No one is arguing otherwise lmao, they're saying it would fair better than people are giving it credit for
@@negative6442 They would not fair any better at all. They would arguably perform FAR worse than people think. Most super heavy demons can survive a point blank BFG shot to the face. a single Baron might take either V or Smasher alone
I know that the dmc universe is not a shooter at all, but it seems to me that Dante and Vergil have every chance of defeating most of the demon bosses
I can definitely find somewhere to put him.
If you've ever played The devil May cry games. You know that they could hold back the invasion because their father has held back a demon invasion before andante has gone into The demon world and done something similar alone
@@SirAlex12different invasions.
That's why I specified demon and not hell
dante and vergil is really op ngl
as far as the borderlands series is concerned I don't think Pandora would notice a demon invasion until it is a good half year in
I’m going to say that Borderlands possibly could survive since the weapons and grenades wackier effects summon mini suns and black holes and they throw those around like candy
One really cool matchup for the doom universe would be Xcom since they’re shown adapting the aliens technology and even improving on it themselves.
Not a shooter so it wouldn’t fit the theme, but it’s a cool thought I had.
1:06 Hell is considered a living sentient being with a mind on it's own the only way to enter Hell is by breaking a space-time in other words creating a slip-gate portal as such. Hell stretches to infinity that it will never end the more you try to escape it by just heading a certain direction the more demons you will encounter to Hell is the origin of the Multiverse of Doom and every dimension or unmistakable connected to Hell as such infinite amount of different dimensions and universes that have been consume by the Hellish dimensions have made Hell and it's demonic force grown even stronger over time and most of the demons encounter in Hell were not born in it but we're assimilated by it such as the gargoyles which were originate in Argent D'nur or the Aggadon Hunters which were originated on Earth thanks to the Hell Priest. Hell has an unimagine minimal amount of Demons that are able to level an entire cities just by walking and other beings like the Icon of Sin being able to consume entire dimensions and entire worlds just by merely existing.
Punctuation exists my guy
Great concept ❤👍
Man i feel old. 35:57
ICON OF SIN HAS AI VERION IN A OLD DOOM GAME CRISIS AND CYBERPUNK ARE COOKED
Gordon doesn't need to hear all of this, he is a highly trained professional
Gravity guns imps into archvile "surely he will realize he is giving me ammunition"
For Borderlands, I do have to say there are a few Vault Monsters who can absolutely destroy planets, such as devouring planets, etc. (Though they would kill everyone on the Borderlands side as well...)
8:54 Heavy Cannon, Chain Gun, Combat Shotgun, and Plasma Rifle: Am I a joke to you?
9:42 a h h h . . .
Love the video. One thing I'd like to add about the Marauderis that the only reason why their eyes flash green and give you a window to hit them at mid-close distance is because Doom guy personally trained them and only, he can see that otherwise good luck fighting even a single one. These guys can tank infinite Bfg blasts unless staggered and it's over for everyone if one shows up buffed or possessed
You are my favorite type of person to drink next to at a party. I would listen to you explain literally anything you have this much passion about.
honestly i think if we say phantom liberty happens before the invasion song bird might be one of the powerful ones with her complete control of the rogue Ais
I would say honestly, the Ceph from Crysis are A LOT more terrifying than what we think. As they are at least a billion years old that seemingly developed a whole galaxy around them. And in the lore: "Ceph have such advanced technology that can create practically anything they can think of," the only reason they are on earth is to "mine" it yes the whole alien force you are fighting in that series is essentially a group of prospectors and the fact they were at the center of or cause a 50 megaton explosion this is not a military force its more like gardeners/miners. Not to mention, it is implied they already control one galaxy and may or may not control all of the Milky Way. I'm not saying they would win as DOOM makes it clear the Icon of Sin can't really be killed without the Crucible, but I would say at least the superheavys could probably be dealt with. As Prophet is not gonna be stopping a billion if not older alien empire by himself. If they can make anything they want (this includes adapting to threats), they could feasibly deal with at minimum the super heavies if not some boss level if not all of them. The God's are probably a no-go unless they can feasibly warp reality to their side, which I doubt.
Long tangent aside doing this with the Halo universe, or 40k would be fun to see. As the Halo has two groups that can just rewrite reality and 40k is just so dang quirky. Not to mention having it's own demons and corruption.
This is a very common sci fi trope I’ve noticed. Half life does it, crysis does it, universe at war kinda does it etc
I mean... I know nothing about Darkwatch, but there's this trope where characters that are evil enough can't be corrupted any further. And evil Jericho sounds like he'd be that type of character.
Fun Fact: when killing the gladiators living shield, it says words that translate to "Rip and Tear", it wants the gladiator dead, it may be possibly possessed by all the gladiators victims
you got my subscription for the etymology of 'decimate' - my buds and I go down rabbit holes like that all the time
Several things wrong with the demonic invasion bit (love the video btw)
1. Davoth did indeed create Jakkad and the other universes, but he also created the other races (namely the Makyrs)
2. Davoth loved his people and they prospered, but they were mortal, while Davoth was immortal.
3. He created the Makyrs to find a way to make his people immortal like him so he would not see them die in front of him.
4. The Makyrs did indeed find out how to make his people immortal, but deemed Davoth was too much of a wild card for such knowledge
5. The Makyrs then rebelled against their creator and succeeded in imprisoning him in Jakkad
6. Before he lost his physical form his rage literally changed his once beautiful kingdom into a hellish landscape
7. The demons are a mixture of naturally born demons and humans turned demon.
For a human to become a demon, they must be taken to Nekravahl (I think that’s the place) to be tortured and brutally beaten until their spirit is broken. Once broken the humans are then sent to processing, where the souls are violently ripped from their bodies. Most of the souls turn into Argent Energy. The bodies are then thrown out where over time they slowly turn into demons.
Love the video just wanted to point that out 😊
Edit: ok, I watched the video until the end of the demons section and everything he says was true. If anyone was mad at what I said I apologize
Hell yeah new series!!
If you do a part 2 of this I think a good one to include would be the dead space universe.
I do intend to use Dead Space but not for this Survival Challenge. Stay tuned.
you know out of all the power scaling and vs videos I've watched, this one has the most interesting setting.
I wanna see a nerd with a crowbar take on the demon invasion
This needs a long term series honestly with games like overwatch, Warframe, halo, Diablo, warhammer etc
No one from overwatch can damage anything past the imps
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How do u know? Please Explain
What would happen if overwatch got transferred to doom verse? Which characters make it and which ones don’t pass the imps?
@immanuelsule5251 The demons in doom are basically gods. I just don't see anyone from the overwatch universe doing anything against them.
If this is taking place out of Doom universe, the icon a sin wouldn't be part of their force. It would still be imprisoned. As wood the Gladiator demon.
Samus would absolutely survive DOOM enemies. She just needs a Slayer’s Crucible.
dawg, if samus needs argent energy equipment, she's getting bodied.
phazon isnt too different from argent
I would argue the destroyer is the strongest thing the borderlands universe has to offer since just opening a vault that only exposes a fraction of it cracked a massive part of Pandora’s surface open not to mention it is the only vault monster contained in a whole planet which also caused the ancient civilization which sealed it to be destroyed just so that it wouldn’t destroy the universe since it is said to “eat stars”.
I think the two biggest things with Borderlands is the Eridian's literally control time, they don't exist within time. They're not just faster than light, they're faster than time. And second, Borderlands 3 has the Hellwalker, not only a super-shotgun but implied (even if a joke weapon) to be the exact type of Super-shotgun Doomguy uses, lol.
I guess my point with Borderlands is, when you leave out the Eridians and even the Guardians from the equation you're only looking at the Vault-Hunters, Crimson Raiders and whatnot. I think Borderlands is oddly enough the only folks who have a chance here. The Eridians just stop time manipulate their own universe in ways that'll help counter the invasion.
Right off the rip, I clicked on this video expecting idiotic make believe nonsense, but was blasted with a good summarization of the doom universe that I never was able to to grasp while playing the game, thank you right off the rip for that.
Doom 3 is still cannon, you can find the Doom 3 tablets and the soul cube in the evil ladies lab.
It was basically just a hell invasion of another universe by a different Demon General or commander
Hugo Martin stated in a livestream tat it’s not. He takes inspiration from it on occasion but it’s not canon.
@@rougarabidNo, it is, just another dimension, thats what Hugo said. Its not in the Slayers timeline.
And since there is only one Hell (Jekkad) it must be true.
@@blazkowicz_the_3rd810 yup, throughout the Doom multiverse both exist, all connected through one Hell! And I love how three different universes (at least) had the UAC.
Doom Guy/Slayers original universe
Doom Marines universe
Then the Doom 2016/Eternal universe
@@supergodzilla3 exactly, love that someone understands that.
Everybody will likely say send V1 from Ultrakill but that would be too predictable.
So I propose the Guardian from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. After that I shall suggest some cannonfodder.
Those being Subject 612 from Trepang2 and the Combine Elite of Entropy Zero 2.
You forgot that prophet has a gun that completely ignores durability
I think a really important thing to think about in regards to the Borderlands universe...considering we have sirens that steal other peoples' life force, we have elements that mutate you and shit, it would be absolutely no stretch to imagine the Megacorps of Borderlands rapidly researching and using Argent Energy for themselves. Imagine an Argent Energy infused siren. Doom Humans made the BFG. What the HELL would Borderlands make with that level of power? Like we already have handheld nukes, shotguns that fire other shotguns, magic (if you take DLC as canon)...
The cyberpunk would do pretty well because most of the civilians and gangs are cyborgs , while they aren’t on the level of V, smasher , and David , they are a lot more capable then you think and we only saw what night city had to offer, imagine what other parts of the world can do.
Even so, they wouldn't last that long, the ARC resistance was beaten severely even when equipped with the most advanced weaponry, so the cyborgs of Cyberpunk would run into a similar fate, especially against Cyber demons and Barons of Hell
@@alejandroelluxray5298 what can the cyberdemons do ? Besides from when I’m seeing doomslayer taking them out lol, but overall the reason I say that is cause of the implants like sandevistans which is op ,reinforced skeletons , etc. it’s not just advanced weaponry but also superhuman abilities from the cyberware , I have no idea if doom has cyborgs, not from what I seen , not saying cyberpunk wins but they will give them a nasty fight tho.
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Doom humans seem to still be fully flesh and blood other than Hayden, they would definitely put up a much better fight even if they would eventually succumb to corruption and the stronger demons.
Ok borderlands right how the fuck would the demons kill the destroyer its literally invincible
Would love to see you do a DOOM vs. Warhammer vid. Either a hell invasion on the universe or Doomguy vs The Emperor of Mankind
Scaling the Doom Slayer is kind of impossible tbh. He is basically the Saitama of his universe. Canonically, he has never lost a fight, and even while sleeping for hundreds of years, the demons still couldn't hurt him.
@Jane-qh2yd That's simply untrue. To say anything is impossible to scale even. Even Saitama took actual damage in his fight with Boros in the Manga, and Doom Eternal makes it pretty clear that Davoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other, Davoth literally created him after all, and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa "avoth and the Slayer are basically a match for each other"
You have no proof for that. Canonically, we don't know if the Slayer ever takes damage during their fight, especially since in the cutscene, he had taken no damage, nor did he show any fatigue.
"and Doom Slayer is still limited by Davoth's power considering he passed out after defeating him."
We have no idea why he passed out. We know the Slayer was created in his image, but we don't know if that means they are equal in strength (Which they literally aren't), it just means one needs the other for power
@Jane-qh2yd the father basically says it at the end of doom eternal. "By his hand, all things were made, even you." And then Slayer passes out. Context clues suggest that he absolutely went into an eternal coma because of the dark lord's death. Doom Slayer may be superior to Davoth, but he is also still very clearly limited. So unless new info gets added, it'd be safe to assume that Doom Slayer is only marginally superior to Davoth.
Warhammer mogs
Watching someone else play Doom makes me realize I don’t move around enough.
eridians from bl 2 are actually pretty similar to demons from doom. They are powerful invaders who conquered half of the games universe and with the technologies they have theyd do a pretty good competition
Things that I think are slight adjusters to mentioning,
Cyberpunk: there is also another living legend that will turn up again in later games but played a prominent role in the table top and has some entires in the 2077 game that bring to mention that he’s still about if not in his previous full active solo work. Black hand. But again just is a third person at super heavy fighting strength not really much else to say on him but he would be another super heavy fighter on the cyberpunk side. There is also the old world Ai’s that are just sitting there but as you say the cyberpunk worlds hacking didn’t get past wifi and though some of those AI could be a problem as they try and work out a way to fight, they have got complacent living mostly ethereal lives that they aren’t likely beating bosses either no matter what great power they think of themselves as.
Crisis: I’m not sure I’d side with you on him not being able to absorb the argent energy, it’s show to take the earthlings of doom universe barely a year to convert the energy type into useable format with all there tech and that just boosts them. It is thought made of souls it has been adjusted to really universal as to allow demon flesh and tech to use it as such I would side that prophet would likely be able to use it.
But I think given the demons have fought doom guy, seeing a weaker but starting out machine rolling up the same path, they would seal him quick enough before he starts being able to become another thorn like doom guy. I also doubt he would become doom guys equal but I would have sided on him being able to absorb it just on how easy it was for earth to convert the energy. This isn’t souls as they are originally formatted for a body but them converted to a universal fuel that powers in a massively efficient way that is good for boosting the output of machines and flesh alike. I wouldn’t knock the demons inventiveness with that and say a mech couldn’t run it because it’s souls, not because crisis universe has met this kind of thing, but because dooms universe and there demons made this stuff to be just that universally awesome to help them incorporate and grow from there universe invasion plans.
I don’t think either really changes the result by any significant factor, but they would be factors.
didnt the humans of DOOM get that info from Samuel?
@@voxpopssodaYea he gave them that And he is bassically "God's" assistant so it wasn't exactly something the humans could have done normaly.
Smasher would also be a threat to the demons
@@matijasostojic4288 that is what I was implying.
Ngl bro, the Cyberpunk universe gets obliterated, and so do most other universes in here. The Doom Earth that was invaded had superior technology compared to anyone in this list. Remember, most of the slayer's arsenal was built by the UAC, including the BFG. If a society with giant mechs and literal planet destroying weapons were completely powerless against the invasion, nobody here is living longer than a day
Not unless something like the Khan Maykr or Icon of Sin decide to join in. Very much questionable statement that one, Doom Earth is full of a bunch of chumps. Weaponry is pointless if you get turned into paste before you can even use it. Cyberpunk universe has basically everyone augmented so they're already stronger than the average UAC soldier.
@@anitaremenarova6662 and the lowest tier of demons throw fireballs that's as hot as the sun...
This for Mass Effect, Darksiders, Overwatch, Fallout
Overwatch would be interesting actually. At first I thought they're cooked, but damn if you take all the in game heroes as well as the bad guys armies (talon, sector zero) the junkers and omnics and whatnot, all lore accurate, that would be insanely good
Fallout wins by all the protags just doing a bunch of future crack
@@JoshNotJohn0 Nah, Fallout wins by the protags of Fallout New Vegas, and Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 for that matter, just using weaponry that by all logic, cannot exist. I mean, look me in the eyes, and tell me that the Lone Wanderer wouldn't make a semi-auto pipe pistol that shoots mini-nukes. Which, by the way, are a condensed down version of a somewhat more powerful nuke than modern day nuclear warheads, and still way less powerful than the nukes used to cause the Fallout in the first place. Fallout New Vegas' courier, just gets Yes Man's help, and Fallout 3's protag, just uses the mothership, from the Mothership Zeta DLC. It's that simple. Also, you cannot tell me that the Cesar's Legion wouldn't be able to handle at least some of the fodder enemies.
@@fr3y438 I mean, yeah, the weaponry works well
but I think the courier would just do a bunch of turbo, slow down time to a standstill, and wreck everything in sight.
Darksiders could be interesting, since the horsemen are godlike beings.
Small correction: if this is an invasion of Hell's forces into a non-DOOM universe, they probably wouldn't have access to the Cyber Mancubi (or Revenants for that matter) because those are products of the UAC.
24:24 in and he’s just starting the simulation. Quite the rambling
Doom Slayer is insanely fast but takes his time because he enjoys it.
In comes V1 who has no concept of “fun” just “YUMMY YUMMY BLOOD” and stomps the armies of hell.
the winged gopro will not stand a chance against a marauder, or the gladiator.
also V1 wouldn't even draw that much blood from the demons he slays, BECAUSE THEY FUCKING TURN TO ASH AFTER DEATH!
@@TENOZILIA They only turn to ash because lorewise the Slayer is the only one able to permanently kill them via absorption after putting them down… and have you even played either game series?
In DOOM the demons _splatter and explode_ into blood and guts. V1 would have a _field_ day.
Both the Slayer and V1 have taken on way bigger, way stronger, _way faster_ than a silly Marauder or something as weak as the Gladiator.
V1 has solo’d Earthshaker mini-cities, parried punches from the Corpse of King Minos- a Godzilla-size opponent- and has dealt with opponents like Minos Prime and Sisyphus Prime whose speed is so ridiculous that you can’t see them dash. They pretty much teleport.
If you played, let alone watched gameplay, it’s clear.
@@TemplarBlonic v1 still wouldnt stand a chance
@@TENOZILIA V1 literally thrives on enemies that spurt less blood than DOOM’s demons. With so many slow, lumbering bloodbags- V1 will not only survive, but *_thrive._*
Releasing the destroyer is the nuclear option that would ensure both sides were destroyed
Covered this in a response video.
@@rougarabidyea you did and you downplayed the destroryers power and your arguments on cyberpunk while sound just show you know very little about the lore of the world. I don't think cyberpunk would win i just know you dont know a lot because you everything you said was either only kinda true or completely wrong.
@rougarabid I mean you did but you downplayed the destroyer by absolutely orders of magnitude. I'm genuinely wondering where you heard it was only a galactic threat. I'm pretty sure lore of borderlands 3 species (erridians) that it was responsible for wiping out in order to seal it was literally scanning the entire universe for something that could stop it and couldn't find anything 😂😂😂
Look, I understand you don't like borderlands 3's main story but the lore in it is fucking cracked 😂
So a couple things I would say about just the general concept of the video:
So most of the setup I am fine with but I think including The Dark Lord and The Icon of Sin Would be in the invasion and that the universes HAVE to beat them especially the Dark Lord Davoth. So for the Icon of Sin he was only released to destroy Earth as a final chance to stop the Doom Slayer, this was because the Khan Maykr basically feared for their life and their universe so he was released to STOP THE DOOM SLAYER SPECIFICALLY, for Davoth I feel like he should not be included because he has very specific beef with The Doom Slayer and wouldn't care for these other verses stuff going on,.
But to my main problem: You are undermining the borderlands universe! or at least not taking some really powerful things up!
1: Shields: It is pretty small compared to everything that's why this is first but... Shields in the Borderlands Universe aren't just health boosts but a separate entity that doesn't have passthrough, so anyone using a shield would be able to take one argent strike.
1: Digistruct: Now I am not going to explain that the Vault Hunters can come back infinitely, mostly because that the respawn mechanic is none cannon. BUT here is the thing where they can make infinite loader bots (At least loader bots, I don't think of other powerful bots for an explanation later!) So why do I think it is infinite? Well both because there is no lore saying otherwise and the gameplay and story kind of show that! The economy of the world is all out of whack guns costing tens up to hundreds of millions showing that raw material means nothing! This is also shown by the Tediore company being able to sell digistruct guns that don't cost a sent to reload. Another reason I think digistruct can make infinite raw materials and loader bots is because in the lore think of anytime something is a valuable resource? It is either A: A unique mineral never seen before/is extremely rare (Examples being Erdian, Moonstones or Seraph Crystals) or B: Something of cultural or technological greatness (Vault Keys being a primary one) and these both can't just be made easily! The only limiting factor I could see to digistructing is computational power. Loader Bots are simple but a Saturn Bot would need actual time to build, though you could make an infinite amount you still need a base to assemble them! Loader Bots you would just need a generator and a digistruct device. So the borderlands Universe has an infinite army of bots on the same level as at least imps. I feel this could definitely help ease the pains of dealing with excursions coming up and dealing with the hoards of smaller enemies letting the Vault Hunters breathe more.
2: Legendary doesn't equal Unique: This goes hand in hand with my last point, Most Legendary guns aren't special they aren't one of a kind, so the Borderlands Universe doesn't only have an infinite army of Loader Bots but can have an Infinite army of Loader Bots with Shredfirem, Business Calls and DEPAS (Double Penetrating Unkempt Harolds) with fastballs as grenades and shields. I feel like its also has to go without saying, when it comes to the universe coming to an end money is no matter.
3: Sirens (At Least going off the lore and story hints we have seen so far) are resistant to corruption: In the borderlands Universe it is pretty much stated that Sirens are the only true makers of choice and free will in the Borderlands universe, for them they are the epitome of freedom nothing being able so I feel they would be able to resist corruption from the demons because a corrupted version of you isn't you.... a corrupted siren seem antiparticle to sirens..... Also if you don't want to accept that in the Borderlands 3 DLC Love Guns and Tentacles all of the Vault Hunters can easily resist the corrupting aura of the vault monster and cult of the planet, even if you want to say they didn't stay long enough on the planet the Hunters literally made contact with the still beating heart of the monster so I feel they had to deal with some potent fuckery.
4: Troy can also get to the power level of Tyreen: Yes Troy doesn't realize that he can leach other creatures at the beginning but that doesn't mean he doesn't have that power, and with what I believe as was stated before the Borderlands Universe could have two Icon of Sin level creatures on their side.
BUT THAT IS ALL SMALL CAKES WHEN WE COME TO THE LAST ACE THE BORDERLANDS UNIVERSE HAS....
3: THE DESTROYER:
So the first thing to get out of the way, How would the destroyer get out of Pandora? Option 1: Tyreen and Troys plan was to unleash The Destroyer, with a slight change of plans because of the demons they could easily just release the beast onto the hoards. 2: The Destory has a feeding mechanism that if not used to feed the destroyer would cause him to escape the prisoner needs to be fed or he will break that! 3: The Demons doing to Pandora what they did to earth would easily break The Destroyer out.
So we covered how The Destroy would get out! Now power scaling. The Destroy has destroyed countless galaxy spanning civilizations, forced one of the smartest civilizations to commit SOUP OF SIDE (Family friendly :) he is strong, Some other things The Destroyer gains the intelligence of any creature he has eaten, so imagine all the brilliant minds of the multiple galaxies, these civilizations best military generals, eons of collective knowledge, millions of albert Einstiens in one AT MINUM earth sized monster, though the destroy was described to eat stars so take the size as you will, if The Destroy eats even one Marauder it would be over truly in tactical planning. One eye of The Destroy ONE would be able to destroy a moon ONE EYE JUST ONE and The Destroyer IS AT MINIMUM PLANET SIZE.... THAT EYE WASN'T EVEN A PERCENT OF THE DESTROY NOT EVEN A DROP OF THE DESTROYER.... The Destroyer would wipe any demon including the Icon of Sin. Let's also not forget to mention the destroyer when in its full form is immortal.
I also want to go over some points you may use to disprove The Destroyer's power: 1: The original Vault Hunters were able to drive it back! False they were able to drive on mouth back in a weakened state (Specifically Designed to feed and not let out), 2: The Warrior is so weak compared to The Destroyer, This is for people who didn't go through all of the lore for 3, but a reminder The Warrior at the end of 2 was not supposed to control or even fight The Destroyer he was meant to prevent people from opening Pandora it self... Basically a Glorified Bodyguard. 3: Tyreen after consuming The Destroyer was killed: So without trying to be to much fan theory I am pretty sure it is explained that Tyreen wasn' brought up to The Destroys status as much as The Destroyer was brought down to hers... Also I don't believe Tyreen could eat The Destroyer that fast not going to lie.
So would I say the Borderlands Universe could win against a Doom Invasion? Maybe, 100 percent if Davoth wasn't included, Would I say it's a traditional win? Not really to win against the Invasion the Hunters would have to doom their galaxy but either way The Destroyer gets out even after the Hunters are gone... In the End it comes down to The Destroyer vs a Doom invasion... and I say like 55/45 Doom to Borderlands.
Also I would love to have a FRIENDLY debate on this! Maybe in this comment thread or on Discord so please do tell. I would also just be happy with you respoing to this comment as well!
The borderlands universe has a lovecraftian godly being that can consume universes and gets smarter.
The destroyer would do damage, he is literally an eater of civilization... advanced ones sure he is more than capable doing something insane and if I am right he goes stronger each time. More of a force of nature at this point