First time viewer on this channel and my jaw dropped when this host talked about a high trim, and clean, well maintained Camry. Well I’m a 4th year surgical resident, I inherited a large sum from grandmother 2 years ago. I have a bank account that would allow me to buy multiple cars and they could be the prestige brands he spoke of. I give money away to those in need and that calculated into my decision to go drive a Toyota Camry out of curiosity. I also drove the Mercedes and Audi etc. I gave my decision lots of thought, and I went back to Toyota and chose a 2025 Camry because I love saving money and I don’t need to impress anyone or take criticism from family and friends for a $145k M5 competition from BMW that I wanted. Anyways, I paid the Camry in full and my insurance premium for 6 months and of course TT&L right away. I’m thrilled to not have debt and have a new car. I have a 2021 Mazda CX-5 as well. I wash my cars a couple of times a week. The Camry is a great daily driver and good at mailing its mission. That Ocean Gem is gorgeous. Thank you so much for your presentation. I subbed. And I drove the Honda accord but didn’t really care for it… seats, styling, lack of some features, turn me away after 3 times driving it.
Hahaha! Irrefutable PROOF of what I was talking about! I grew up in a very middle class, but very comfortable home and neighborhood where you could tell who was actually wealthy by the fact that they drove a Camry XLE V6 (this is back in the days before XSE ever existed) and they were always impeccably maintained and were in better condition than the luxury cars that you’d see at the mall. With that said, once you’re well into your future surgical practice, you should buy your dream M5 Competition because I do believe life is too short to not buy the fun car and have the experience. Since you can afford it, you should enjoy your luck and success. :) And you shouldn’t worry about criticism from people about what you do with your money. But always keep the Camry because I think even when you have the nice car, you’ll want to baby it. Case in point, one of my parents’ neighbors has a beautiful classic Porsche 911 that he’s owned for decades but his daily driver is always a Camry XLE. 😂
I could give you more reasons why your position on the way you are managing your good fortune is a good idea. There will be a time later when buying that "fun" car would be better. If they still make fun cars. I am assuming you have no debt (highly unusual for someone that has been in school for as long as you have) and that you have engaged a "fee only" financial planner. With your outlook you will be very successful. Good luck with your practice which unless you are doing a fellowship, I would think will be starting soon. That Camry is a fine car will go over a lot better with your potential referral sources and the people you work with.
@josh-on-cars lol, This is terrific! Thank you for wisdom and contributions to the auto world with your reviews. I will be watching others in the weeks agreed but your channel was in my “feed or pipeline” and I saw your Camry review and wanted to see if your channel and you were any good. Lots of care review channels nowadays. You are great! You are nuanced and have experience with Camry and you have class and common sense. I love it and I am happy to subscribe. Your parents sound like intelligent people too. I’ve looked at Camrys for years and kind of wondered what the deal was and why I always see so many. I was at a stop light in Oklahoma City last night and I was in my Camry and the other 3 parts of the intersection all had a new Camry in therm! I couldn’t believe all the Camrys were the first cars in the line and my head was going back and forth because I had not seen 2025 Camrys in the roads yet. Then all of the sudden 4 of us! A gorgeous white XSE and the Solar Red, not sure of the factory color name and then an Ocean Gem LE and me in my reservoir blue. I paid off my Mazda CX-5 GT lease for $20,513 and it’s too great to get rid of with only 22,320 miles. I figured if I didn’t like Camry that I’d dump in a year or maybe give to a younger cousin or something. But I believe now she is a keeper and I’ll keep her in the stable for 10 years maybe! I’m not a flashy guy but I am very curious about that M5 when I just wanna have fun. I do have access to my Father’s 911t S and it’s something special. But I like saving more than I like spending tbh. I wear lots of black shirts when I go out instead of all the luxury Italian brands that my colleagues and friends usually wear. I do spend on watches tho! Hahaha Take care and thanks again for such a thoughtful response. I will be sure to like and watch all of your videos, Josh
@brianbarbe9646 no debt here I was lucky to have family support who told me if I committed to the work, they’d take care of school debt. My grandma kicked in $90k initially and my folks took care of the rest and I’ve been out of debt with cars and credit cards etc. my folks are a dentist and a cardiologist in my city. I’m an only child and only grandchild so they pin their hopes on me lol. And yes there is a financial planner in my city that my parents and their friends use, he charges me 3%. I don’t believe he is a fiduciary but that’s okay for now.
100% agree with you on the buttons. I also love how they integrated the screen into the dashboard better. My friend has a 2019 XSE with such a high end interior. She still gets compliments on her car all the time.
Yes!! Totally agree at the better integrated screen. That was one of the first things John noticed when he got in was how much better the position of the screen was versus his Camry. 😂
I wasn't overly impressed with the styling of the new Camry, either... until I went and saw the ocean gem/black roof with premium plus package, illuminated door sills and front accent lighting in person... then I bought it.
I’m always pleasantly surprised when I see an old Camry on the road. Here up north it’s not uncommon to see one from the 90’s still going strong. And you’re right, it says a lot about the owner when their Camry is mint.
I miss my V6 XSE. But from your review on the CR-V Sport Touring I went and bought one. I really love it. Its more practical and its such a smooth drive for a SUV. Gas MPG is out of this world. But maybe some day I will own a Camry again. P.S. the new owner of my Camry drove 300 miles to get it. Keep doing your videos and reviews. Love 'em.
Great videos. Thanks. We like our Kia EV6 lease. Took a long time to get used to it but at current lease prices it's a cool option if an EV workds for someone.
I always loved the Avalon. It was also so unique compared to the ubiquitous Camry. In its last two generations, it was actually an ES downgraded to be a Toyota so they could spread the costs of building the ES across two vehicle programs.
I agree at the extra tech, but I do really like having a digital speedometer for quick glance reads at how fast I’m going. Especially on our inner city roads where speed traps are all over the place. But I’m with you on gauges. If the screen goes out, I want a fallback.
Hi Josh. Nice review. I have never considered a Camry, although I see quite a few on the road speeding like sports cars. When I say speeding I mean speeding along with dodging in and out of traffic. That blue really stands out it is a beautiful color. In your previous review of the plug in hybrid you mentioned emptying the gas tank do you also recommend that for non plug in hybrids? Back in the day we had a Toyota Cressida which at that time was considered their luxury version of a sedan before Lexus was introduced. Prior to Covid we went to an auto where Toyota was really promoting the Rav 4. It had a lot of the options you look for in a vehicle. The 360 camera and quite a few other features. Again, great review. Thank you.
23:00 exactly me today :) I'm that guy who's last cars include Porsche Boxster, 911, dodge charge scat pack widebody...I used to drive a lot pre-COVID and just wanted a nice driving car. Now with 3 kids and looking at options, I'm happy with a Camry. Dealing with an unreliable expensive German sports car can be really stressful and doesn't make you happy. Tried them all - Camry SE/XSE is best driving sedan with a decent backseat for kids and under 40k. Other sedans feel floaty and SUV like and the Camry feels like it's on rails and go-cart like in comparison. Lexus ES 350 would be my next choice, but this 2025 Camry SE/XSE drives much better. Comparing the 2, aside from the V6 (which feels sluggish as far as responsiveness versus the 5th gen hybrid), everything on the Camry is better (including the back seat and high trim features). When the ES is upgraded with the Camry goodness, that will be a great car, but I got a feeling they'll keep it more floaty/luxury for the target market.
hey my brother, as soon as you get your hands on the new 2026 rav4 hybrid later this year, please do a review, i want to upgrade from my 2020 model. cheers and great work.
Thank you! Either is great. I think I would personally go for the XLE because I like the white-ish interior and I would rather have the 18” wheels. But the XSE with the sport suspension does feel a little more firm and precise. Test drive both and see what you prefer.
Wow. This video got a lot of views. Nice job. Appreciate the explanation of what an "ECVT" is. Also made me feel better that someone much younger and more tech savvy than a geezer like me struggled with the Toyota instrument cluster set up. I had the same issue with our Grand Highlander. Good thing I don't care about much beyond speed, fuel level and coolant temp.
@josh-on-cars do you have any opinions on Camry vs Audi A4 for the price diff? I was heavily considering Audi but my local dealer doesn’t ever have much inventory since pandemic. I know we aren’t comparing apples & oranges. And Audi would have cost another $12$-$17k likely based on my choices.
@2004cyrus Personally I’ve never been a huge fan of the A4… and as you may know the A4 is going away since it’s at the end of its generational run (came out in 2016), and the A5 is the new gas engine sedan going forward (even numbers will be reserved for electric Audis from here on out). I’m excited to see what that looks like and I don’t think you missed out on anything by not buying the current (outgoing) A4. But in general I do love Audi’s design language and technology. Their cars are the most timeless of all the Germans. I think BMW and Mercedes have gotten really trendy and gaudy as of late. Audi knows how to do restrained avant-Garde design, and I think if I were ever to buy an EV, it would be some kind of eTron. They really do live their “Vorsprung durch Technik” or Progress through Technology mantra.
@josh-on-cars I’m handing on your way very wise word! Wow I agree with all of that! I did drive an eTron. I don’t know about the end of this generation of A4 and no more. I don’t regret my decision so far. I love how Audi is restrain with styling compared to the other 2 that are not my preference style wise many times. Thanks for such a nuanced reply!
Torn between the "heavy metal" grey with that red interior or the Ocean Gem with black inside. But that front grill is awesome in the Ocean Gem...it looks like a modern art sculpture of a ocean wave
Those are both great colors! I love the red interior so I’d probably go with heavy metal. The red just looks more special to me. But the ocean gem is absolutely spectacular too!
Enjoyed your review. We ordered an ocean gem XLE, which arrives in a couple weeks. Been driving a 2011 XLE, no issues and super well maintained. 😊 I'm fine with no memory seats as with women we wear different lengths of shoes and like to change our seating situation. 😊 Looking fwd to the new XLE!
Thanks for the review, Josh! It would also be great to hear your opinion about the new Toyota Crown Signia which is also less than $50k and fully manufactured in Japan.
Yes! I’m hoping to be able to do that sometime soon too. They’re just now hitting dealers, and I imagine there will probably be a line of folks waiting for one but as soon as I can get one, I’ll give it a go.
I bought a 2025 XLE with premium package 3 weeks ago. Luckily my fit and finish is much better. I got reservoir blue because it was the only Camry on the lot. I’m happy with it for the most part. I’ve hit 44.4 miles per gallon. I have always bought Mazdas and their fit and finish is really great.
@josh-on-cars Honestly if my dealer had an XSE I probably would have gone for that one but there was 1 Camry on their showroom floor with a big red bow and it was the Reservoir Blue. In my head I liked the car and sat in it but the color was a deal killer for me as I never have wanted a blue car. The salesperson was super though except he didn’t know how to explain the ECVT. But I was there for 6 hours! At the end of the 5th hour I was tired and I was thinking I wanted a Camry and didn’t feel like waiting months for other colors and trims arrived so I finally told the manager okay I’ll take the blue Camry before it sells, an elderly came in and started telling the salesman they wanted to make a deal. I could hear them a few feet over from me. I had to pull trigger or walk away. The blue gets tons of compliments from a variety of people when I’m out and about.
I have the XLE also, fully loaded with AWD. I prefer the faux Alcantara interior and only the XLE has memory seats. Real leather on a $40k Camry, but imitation leather on a $75k Lexus? Wow, I can’t complain about my OTD price of $41k (I haggle really well 😊).
I have an older 2012 Mazda 3 that has been an absolute tank. It’s approaching 300,000 miles though and I’m planning on upgrading to something bigger. It’ll be a reward for finishing school and starting my career too. Would have went with a Mazda 6 if those were still around, but I’m seriously considering either a new Camry or Hybrid Accord now. I think I’m leaning towards the Camry. My parents told me to future proof myself and get an even larger RAV4, Honda CRV, or Mazda CX5/CX50, but I want a sedan lol.
Right!? I was really surprised by that because the Kentucky plant usually puts out cars that rival Japan in terms of fit and finish. But… first model year problems definitely exist even with Toyota. And I’d most definitely keep your V6 ES!
Great review Josh. You provide excellent content. I agree 100% with your validation philosophy. I own a Grand Highlander hybrid and could not justify buying a TX with those stupid electronic door handles although I can afford to buy it. I like the color coordination of your shirt and sunglass tint. Also love your Submariner 😊. I just subscribed. ✌ peace bro
Thank you! I personally think the TX is an absolute joke (I have a review on the base 350 here on the channel, hated it) so regardless of the status symbol and prestige badge factor, I think you got the better car with the Grand Highlander. I can’t imagine why anyone would buy a TX since you can literally get a loaded Grand Highlander for basically the same price as a base TX350.
I really like the new Camry. Especially that color. Nov 2023 because good deals on new cars were available and used car values were high. I also notice that Toyota was moving much of it's line to hybrids. I thought about the Crown but not nuts about it and thought the price was way to much. Out of curiosity I check out the Lexus ES line. I traded my 2013 Avalon limited V6, 44,000 miles for fully optioned ES350 base. Sticker was $50,150. Negotiated it down to ~ $46,000. So well below a Crown. Glad I bought the Lexus. You have to own a Lexus to appreciate all the little things that make it a luxury car.
About the dashboard display, I think you got a different version. If you get the smaller size version....everything bunch together and you don't have 3 separate screens. Now that I know what you're talking about, I am glad I didn't get the bigger dashboard display.
Yes, this is the upgraded 12-inch digital gauge cluster that’s become available or standard now across many Toyota and Lexus models. I know exactly which one you’re talking about; the 8-inch digital display is what’s in the lower end vehicles, but I agree with you, it’s a whole lot better and much easier to use than the 12-inch version.
Josh: I had a Cadillac STS I chose the base XLE Crown 25 I felt it was a better fit getting in and out for me. Like you said Toyota’s drive alike also the speedometer screen is a mess to try to set up. I’ve spent hours on it sitting in the garage. I did try on the road driving it was too complicated and took away my attention from the road as you mentioned. I’m in northern Louisiana the all wheel drive has come on twice or three times. Making me wonder why. Hope you continue posting these great reviews. 😊😊
Oh man I loved the Cadillac STS. I wish they’d kept that around… that was always the best looking of their sedans. More stately than the smaller CTS, but not frumpy like the DeVille/XTS. Anyhow… congrats on the Camry!! I’m sure you’re saving a ton on gas versus the STS too! As for AWD, Toyota’s intelligent AWD isn’t just for when the vehicle loses traction. It will come on sometimes if the system thinks it should use the rear wheels to kick in for a better takeoff (like getting off the line) or if the rear wheels helping to push the car will give you better handling in whatever situation you’re in. :) I see that happening in my Rsv4 Prime too. Totally normal, and just the car giving you the best balance of power and efficiency that it can.
Hello Josh, love your reviews cause you're so detailed with pointing out interior materials and quality. However, I am curious. It looks like this Camry you reviewed has 19"rims and 40" profile tires. Typically with low profile tires, when driven over road irregularities/ripples and imperfections in the road, you get extra vibration or reverberations in the suspension and body structure vs when older Camry's had higher profile tires. How was this compared to those older Camry's. Did it feel more or less solid?
Thank you! I was actually really impressed by how nicely this Camry rode even considering it has big wheels and low profile tires. I felt like the suspension was tuned to be softer than it is in our V6 Camry with the same setup. But it’s all up to personal preference. And, if you don’t want that kind of ride you can get most of the same features on the equivalent XLE which I think comes with 18” wheels and softer suspension tuning.
Your review really like when you have an normal and friendly conversation with someone you close to, And have nothing to hide or fake from you ...that my impressionist of your car reviewing....keep up buddy
Thank you! I’m so glad it comes across that way, that’s fully my intent. When I’m filming these I don’t feel like I’m taking to the camera but rather to all of you watching as if you were in the car with me!
Besides the new Camry, I am looking at the lower end model of the Toyota Crown as well. Yes, it's a little more expensive, but it's NOT Lexus expensive especially if you go for any model BUT the Platinum version. For the extra $7-$8K, the ride is more quiet & luxurious, and you get AWD. Although it is also a Sedan, the Crown sits 4" higher which is closer to the height of some SUVs. But, because the Crown is a heavier car, the MPG will drop to an average of 41 MPG, which is still impressive for a larger car.
I agree with the ride height but the Camry offers AWD on all trims for 2025 as well. Price wise, the Crown starts at $41K and the ES starts at $43K and ES hybrid starts at $44K. So yes, the Crown is Lexus expensive. It doesn’t have all wheel drive, but it is a much nicer sedan than the Crown even with how premium the Crown itself is. And definitely consider the ownership experience you get with Lexus in that extra $2-3K. Since the ES is almost certainly getting redesigned for the 2026 model, if you don’t need to buy right away, it is definitely worth waiting to see what the next ES looks like before you decide one way or another.
Your argument is on point. Very well said my friend. Check out videos on older Crowns as they were JDM cars like the Century, particularly 2006-2016/17 😊
Thank you! And thanks as always for watching! And YES at the Crown! The new actual Crown sedan in Japan is absolutely stunning too… I honestly think that should have come here instead of the weird lifted crossover sedan.
Regarding pricing of cars nowadays: wait until you see Honda’s pricing. $55k for a Pilot Black Edition, $45k for a CR-V, etc. then you have to deal with the crazy APRs right now. Honestly, it sucks if you really need a car right now. Go 2nd hand? Deal with the crazy price and crazier APRs at 9.99%. Regarding the car: it looks stunning! The colour’s looking really good.
Honda’s pricing is high but not as bad IMO. They’re on par with their competitors in the market which are all expensive. Toyota is on a whole other level of ridiculous with the way they’re pricing their new trucks and SUVs.
so wait until next year for the improvements to the quality control...i got the first mazda 3 2019 redesign and theres several electronic issues i experience.
Most definitely. I never recommend buying first model year when it comes to cars. Every car has issues when it comes out and buying second or third year ensures you avoid most of them!
The non-hybrid is a non-starter for me. The hybrid is more efficient, more reliable, has more power, is quieter and nicer to drive, and will have much better resale value. All for maybe $1-2K more.
Blue are the people here that walk around Blue like my Camry, its in and outside... Another great review. I am blown away by the Camry and the Crown. It hurts how much better these products are compared to Lexus, a point you bring up across multiple areas (interior, ride, engine, etc.). Why is Toyota doing this? I don't understand the strategy... I might lease something until Lexus improves enough to be worthy of a purchase.
If you haven’t already, go and watch the video I’ve linked at the end of this comment… that’s my guess because I can’t think of any other reason Lexus is putting out such banal vehicles right now. ruclips.net/video/x1vX_DuWZFg/video.html
Love your review... you clearly love toyotas but not unfair with other options like other channels do and they pretend they are not biased downing toyotas
If I did swap out my Camry, it would be this Ocean color. Tech wise, it's awesome...just the driving experience that's keeping me on my v6. I have this cluster on my loaded XSE RAV4. On the settings...I too changed it from the default and I couldn't find settings either. You have to stick it back to the middle in order for it to "be tthere". I agree there needs to be more rails on this....also--most of the gauge information is FRICKING USELESS. Did this come with a heads up display?
Haha! Yes but I hope you never end up flipping your V6 Camry. The hybrid is great but definitely not the same driving experience we have. It isn’t nearly as fast or as smooth, sadly. And yes this can come with a head up display but you have to option into it on the XLE and XSE.
What puts the 2025 Camry ahead of Honda's Accord is several things: 1. AWD option - I think they're doing this because of their Acura branch. The Accord really should be given an AWD option 2. Hybrid entry level is at the base level of the Camry, you have to go up to the Sports-L/Touring to get the hybrid 3. Overall design of the exterior is much better looking (imo) vs. the accord. It's sharper and more aggressive looking 4. Color. The Accord on the interior does not have a lot of color to it, just a ton of the same color/monotoned. Camry, you're given a lot of options (White, Red, Black, etc.) I'll be getting a new car soon, and I think the Camry will be it. My only issue, dealerships in my area only getting Gray/Black options, not a lot of Ocean Gem/White which is the color I want.
I agree with most of this. The only thing I’ll say to #2 is that most people won’t go for the base trims of either anyway. Also, Honda’s interior quality and the Google-based infotainment system on the Accord I think are better than what’s in this Camry. But it is missing a lot of other nice features.
@josh-on-cars I agree with the interior. I really do like the overall design of the Accord interior, and the Google integrated system is nicely done. Big fan of the Touring level and how you can get the Google map integrated into the digital gauge cluster. The color/material could be a little more expansive to offer people something, just to give it some personality. I do think that the Accord with the next re-design could introduce a couple things to make it competitive with the Camry with the exterior and drivetrain. You can't go wrong with either, but for me personally, I like what the Camry can bring to the table.
I've been going back and forth between the xle and Accord touring. I like that I can get AWD on the Camry but that interior looks funky to me. Piano black and cloth on the dashboard should never be done.
@josh-on-carsHow embarrassing for me lol. When you were playing with the buttons I thought I saw the scalloped bezel, helium escape valve, and skeletonized hands of a Seamaster. I've got the black SMP and love it.
@charlesjackson1700 Toyota has actually said all cars will go hybrid only not just the Rav4. Sienna, Sequoia, Camry, Prius, etc. are already there. And the 4Runner now offering a hybrid, the only vehicles in the lineup to not offer a hybrid are GR cars, which would make it easy to drop the gas-only versions of the rest of them too.
I know what you mean about the Camry interpretation among drivers. Benz used to make generational machines that if taken care of are now echoing a forgotten past in which an S-Class felt like it was forged from steel and carved from wood symbolizing the ultimate success of which now is nothing more than pure validation.
Totally agreed about what Mercedes used to be. The same is true of Lexus, sadly. My GX460 feels like it was forged from steel and carved from wood. The new one is cheap plastic at an exorbitant price for pure external validation.
Great review Josh! I think what will be interesting for me is that normally I would get a Lexus ES, however with the direction they are going with removing all physical controls I don't know if I will actually like the updated ES. The loss of the V6 is a bit disappointing but it sounds like the hybrid performs well and I already have a Golf R if I want more performance. So maybe the Camry will actually be better a compliment? Did you look at an XLE Josh? Does it have soft touch rear door cards, anything else of note in interior improvements?
Hello! I think if you’re in the market for a new car or will be ready to buy in the next year, I’d probably go and grab the last 2025 ES with the V6, if that’s what you like. Also, in this new generation, the XLE is a tier below the XSE so what you get on the XSE is going to be as nice or nicer than what you get in the XLE. The nice thing about the XLE is I believe it has 18” wheels so you’ll probably get a softer ride in it as well.
@josh-on-cars Ah interesting, didn't realize the XSE was different in Canada, it looks our XLE is still at the top offering a couple of memory features the XSE does not have (nothing mentioned about soft touch so I bet it's still hard in the back). Also didn't see that the ES was going to stay the same in 2025 maybe I'll consider that. Thanks for the info.
@joelcummings Oh yeah, in Canada things are usually different in terms of trim and grade from the US. And yes! The current ES is great and judging by the resale of V6 Camrys here in the states (selling for above their new price), I’m sure it will be worth a mint later on.
I drove one. I loved it, but do not consider it worth more than $20 000 more than the Camry. That's 3 ski vacations! I did like that the suspension seemed smoother (but not sure if it is different), there's 2 seat settings for 2 riders, the side mirrors fold in while parking automatically like a spaceship. I know, not a big deal, but cool nonetheless. One thing I didn't like about the Signia is there is not a full sized spare tire. You can put one in,but the trunk mat if you will will not lay flush. I think the battery may be under where the spare tire should have been? There's no way I am driving in the snow in the Rocky mountains without a spare tire!
So I can get the 2025 Camry xse without the panaromic roof because most of the dealers and Toyota they act like that it comes standard like it’s not a optional thing
Build a 2026 model online-things do change year to year and maybe that is the case now, I haven’t looked recently. You might also be able to get it with just the regular single-panel moonroof like what comes on the SE with moonroof, but I’m not sure about that. That said, for 2025 the XSE started as cheap as $35K but anything with the pano roof was closer to $40 or $41.
Thanks for explaining the difference between ECVT and older CVT. I get irritated when reviewers refer to this as CVT. Different mechanical engineering and operating principles. If you watch videos about the newer Toyota ECVTs, it is actually a simple but effective design.
Not sure what the QP package refers to but if you don’t see any in your region it may mean that it’s not a popular option there and so you may want to look at other states to see if you can find one elsewhere and have it shipped to you. A lot of times regions will request that cars not get sent to their region with specific options because they know they’ll have a hard time selling.
As stated clearly in the video, that is NOT correct but also remember when cars are new they often end up sitting on lots and idling with the engine on, etc. so it could have been doing that for months before I ever got into it. My real world average in this car driving it without consideration to efficiency was 45-48.
Depends what you’re comparing it against? I think all Camrys are pretty comfortable, but it wouldn’t be as comfortable as a Lexus ES or something. And a Honda Accord might be firmer but quieter.
Question: How is the wireless charging? Toyota wireless chargers for me have been worthless. They say they are charging but the actual charging is so low my phone will actually lose charge. Just curious if they have improved =)
That’s how wireless charging is in general whether in a car or on a desk. Because of the way wireless charging units conduct electricity (I won’t go into detail on the magnetic coils that they use), a lot of the energy generated is lost and wasted in transmission. That’s why you don’t see any kind of wireless charging for cars either. There would be too much net loss in power generated for it to make sense. There’s no replacement for metal on metal contact for power transfer.
Hello! I address that in the last chapter at the end of the video, but in short, I personally don’t really see the point of the Crown. For basically the same price as the base and mid trims, you can get an ES300h (or 350 if you want the V6) which gives you more luxury. And if you’re after performance, for a bit more than the Platinum trim, you can get an IS500. The only two things I think the Crown offers is the higher ride height. The more interesting Crown is the Crown Signia which is basically a Camry wagon.
Question about Adaptive Cruise. Do you actually have to move the steering wheel to turn off the prompt to touch the steering wheel? In other words does the steering wheel have a touch sensor? My 2023 Lexus NX350 does have a touch sensitive steering wheel. In my opinion if the steering wheel doesn’t have a touch sensor then it renders Adaptive Cruise unusable. I recently bought my wife a 2025 Lexus UX300h and we were very disappointed that it doesn’t have a touch sensitive steering wheel. So I was searching Toyota models in general to see if they were the same and found your video. Thanks for your vids!
Hello! Most cars with TSS/LSS 3.0 will have the touch capacitive steering wheel. Anything with 2.0 or 2.5 will not have it. The UX is nearing the end of its generational run (it’s the Lexus version of the current-gen Corolla hatchback which launched in 2018) and thus has the much older system. Overall you’ll find your NX has much better lane trace, adaptive cruise, and obstacle avoidance.
Oh that’s news to me, and I’m glad to hear that! It’s likely then that they didn’t change the actual steering wheel (going back to it being an older vehicle) and so the feature just got taken out. Your NX was a clean sheet redesign from 2022 and so it has the new Lexus steering wheel that’s used on all new-gen vehicles now.
Update-I just googled and you’re right, it has 3.0 but it looks like it’s missing some of the more advanced (but IMO useless) features which I imagine would require some different hardware. This is good to know that there are some vehicles with this kind of configuration.
@josh-on-cars The car itself is very nice and it’s perfect for one driver(no kids). Great gas mileage. We got the top line FSport 2 model. However, we would have just got the NX350h if we knew about the steering wheel. Unfortunately Lexus just lists the features which are the same. Thanks for responding (subbed for support!☺️) Honestly, I think having to jerk the wheel every minute is a safety hazard.
We’re already there with the hybrid max system! :) The standard non-turbo hybrid system will always be aimed at efficiency and so power will never be its mission in life.
I think the reason Honda does not include all-wheel drive in the Accord is because it is not necessary ,but at the same time their car should be cheaper than the Camry
AWD can be really useful for those who want a sedan but get serious winter weather. For the longest time if you wanted AWD you were stuck buying a much more expensive crossover, so I like that we’re seeing it on affordable sedans these days.
@josh-on-carsagree, I'm just concerned that adding all-wheel drive may affect reliability, and by the way, if you are not a good driver in snowy conditions no all-wheel, four-wheel is going to help you. It's better to just stay home.
No, AWD won’t affect reliability at all. It’s the same eAWD system (electric motor on the rear axel) that’s been used in the Rav4, RX, Highlander, Prius, NX, and other hybrids for years. And Toyota’s hybrids consistently rank higher in reliability than their non-hybrid counterparts.
Nooo, we’re so happy with our current cars I don’t think we need anything else at the moment. And I definitely wouldn’t trade our V6 Camry for this one.
Hi Josh, because Crowns are not very highly sought after, the lowest price I have seen available for Platinum Crown is $46k (from 55k MSRP). Would you recommend getting the Crown Platinum at around $46-47k range (very doable these days) consider you are getting that ultra powerful Hybrid Max power?
WOW! That’s a really good deal. That would definitely make the Crown more appealing. I think I would personally still do the Camry because I would rather have a super efficient car if I’m buying a Toyota sedan (the Crown Platinum with the Hybrid Max is kind of a gas guzzler for what it is, like all Hybrid Max cars as that powertrain was designed for performance and not efficiency) but that’s just me. The other thing you should think about, it may not be right for you, is whether you want an IS350 which is also around 46-47. For better performance, that’s the way I would go if you don’t need a midsize sedan. The Hybrid Max is more powerful on paper but doesn’t drive nearly as nicely as the V6.
@josh-on-cars thanks, that’s a good point. Also I feel Hybrid Max is still kinda in low production volume (only 3-4 models if I count correctly) indicating that Toyota/Lexus might still need time to field test the long term reliability. I think I’ll sit this one out for now.
@shawnacevedo8842 Yes! Though it’s the same engine that’s in all the new 4-cylinder trucks also. But, with that said, I think it needs more time in the oven. I think now is the time to buy a V6, but for anything else, it makes sense to wait a bit.
There is no non-hybrid version in this generation. Every 2025 Camry is a hybrid. You’d have to look at specific trims (e.g., an XSE is meant to be sportier and thus might have heavier steering than an XLE).
I test drove the XLE twice and am picking mine up next week. Some of the reviews here on YT describe a quasi-religious experience. Let's get real. It's a very nice, comfortable, well-equipped car. It should be reliable. The e-CVT is an engineering marvel with its twin motors/generators. The "mouse fur" trim is hideous. I plan to keep the car ten years.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say you're wrong (because you're probably not, especially in regards to the current crown sedan) but the new, sort of wagon, Crown thing looks pretty spectacular. And... if it sells as poorly as the current Crown, lots of discounts can be expected. It looks more like a Lexus in and out. A super quick check, shows an XLE for $47K in DFW. Actually, i think that's MSRP. or TSRP? Color choices a bit meh. Please go drive one (so i don't have to). Value...well, hard to beat Camry for that.
The Crown Signia looks to be a great car/wagon/thing, but it’s also significantly cheaper because it doesn’t have the hybrid max engine like the sedan does, and instead shares the same A25A engine and standard hybrid system with Camry and RX. As such funny thing about the Crown Signia is that it basically is a Camry wagon reincarnated!
I took the Crown Signia for a test drive. Spectacular, comfortable ride. I loved the chocolate color. I opted for the Camry SE in underground because so much cheaper, and I'm loving it. Maybe a Signia in my next lifetime
Totally agree. I believe the XLE does come standard with the light gray headliner, and in there you can also get the light-grey/white leather seats as well! Pano roof also helps immensely to brighten up the cabin.
Not him flashing us his new ray ban glasses to blend with the car. Im going to be honest, your Camry is quieter than the new one, but you right abt the front...he is gorgeous in person. Now, compared to your Camry...who the most comfy and easy to use ? Abt the crown ... that is a Japanese car, Toyota should never bring to US to be honest. They are trying to popularize the Crown in North America , I think to bring more revenue to Toyota, but that price is crazy for a Crown when you can grab a 2022 or 2023 ES 350 or RX450(if you looking for the v6 and comfort). Would I buy one Camry instead of Accord or Sonata...uhhh ion. PSA: read the manual the infotainment page, how to personalize the cluster
Haha! I actually ended up buying two pairs of those because I liked them so much. I now have them with the blue Hawaii lenses and the standard black lenses LOL. As for comfort, I think that goes to the new one. I was really surprised at how cushy this XSE felt. Our V6 is definitely more firm, but I think that matches the vibe of the V6. The hybrid isn’t about sporting driving so having it tuned to feel a little softer makes sense. This new Camry also shares its seats with the Prius, which means they’re really comfy but lacking the bolstering we have in our Camry. Again, makes sense since you don’t need that with a hybrid. As for the Crown… it’s a Japanese car that from what I understand not even the Japanese like. I’ve heard that in Japan, Crown Sport and the actual luxury Crown touring sedan outsell the crown crossover (what our crown is called there).
Going hybrid only is a dumb move imo especially in the Canadian market. They are only importing SE and up - no more L or LE models. That naturally means the price point has been pushed higher. $37k CDN before taxes?? Now add a minimum 6 month wait time and dealer mark ups on top of the msrp and you have a car that’s no longer aimed at average consumers. Oh and that beautiful blue? Only available on the much more expensive XLE AWD. Gee thanks Toyota 😒
Yeah Toyota has been giving Canadians the middle finger for years now… if I were Canadian I’d be giving them the finger right back by taking my business elsewhere.
First time viewer on this channel and my jaw dropped when this host talked about a high trim, and clean, well maintained Camry. Well I’m a 4th year surgical resident, I inherited a large sum from grandmother 2 years ago. I have a bank account that would allow me to buy multiple cars and they could be the prestige brands he spoke of. I give money away to those in need and that calculated into my decision to go drive a Toyota Camry out of curiosity. I also drove the Mercedes and Audi etc. I gave my decision lots of thought, and I went back to Toyota and chose a 2025 Camry because I love saving money and I don’t need to impress anyone or take criticism from family and friends for a $145k M5 competition from BMW that I wanted. Anyways, I paid the Camry in full and my insurance premium for 6 months and of course TT&L right away. I’m thrilled to not have debt and have a new car. I have a 2021 Mazda CX-5 as well. I wash my cars a couple of times a week. The Camry is a great daily driver and good at mailing its mission. That Ocean Gem is gorgeous. Thank you so much for your presentation. I subbed. And I drove the Honda accord but didn’t really care for it… seats, styling, lack of some features, turn me away after 3 times driving it.
Hahaha! Irrefutable PROOF of what I was talking about! I grew up in a very middle class, but very comfortable home and neighborhood where you could tell who was actually wealthy by the fact that they drove a Camry XLE V6 (this is back in the days before XSE ever existed) and they were always impeccably maintained and were in better condition than the luxury cars that you’d see at the mall.
With that said, once you’re well into your future surgical practice, you should buy your dream M5 Competition because I do believe life is too short to not buy the fun car and have the experience. Since you can afford it, you should enjoy your luck and success. :) And you shouldn’t worry about criticism from people about what you do with your money. But always keep the Camry because I think even when you have the nice car, you’ll want to baby it.
Case in point, one of my parents’ neighbors has a beautiful classic Porsche 911 that he’s owned for decades but his daily driver is always a Camry XLE. 😂
I could give you more reasons why your position on the way you are managing your good fortune is a good idea. There will be a time later when buying that "fun" car would be better. If they still make fun cars. I am assuming you have no debt (highly unusual for someone that has been in school for as long as you have) and that you have engaged a "fee only" financial planner. With your outlook you will be very successful. Good luck with your practice which unless you are doing a fellowship, I would think will be starting soon. That Camry is a fine car will go over a lot better with your potential referral sources and the people you work with.
@josh-on-cars lol, This is terrific! Thank you for wisdom and contributions to the auto world with your reviews. I will be watching others in the weeks agreed but your channel was in my “feed or pipeline” and I saw your Camry review and wanted to see if your channel and you were any good. Lots of care review channels nowadays. You are great! You are nuanced and have experience with Camry and you have class and common sense. I love it and I am happy to subscribe. Your parents sound like intelligent people too. I’ve looked at Camrys for years and kind of wondered what the deal was and why I always see so many. I was at a stop light in Oklahoma City last night and I was in my Camry and the other 3 parts of the intersection all had a new Camry in therm! I couldn’t believe all the Camrys were the first cars in the line and my head was going back and forth because I had not seen 2025 Camrys in the roads yet. Then all of the sudden 4 of us! A gorgeous white XSE and the Solar Red, not sure of the factory color name and then an Ocean Gem LE and me in my reservoir blue. I paid off my Mazda CX-5 GT lease for $20,513 and it’s too great to get rid of with only 22,320 miles. I figured if I didn’t like Camry that I’d dump in a year or maybe give to a younger cousin or something. But I believe now she is a keeper and I’ll keep her in the stable for 10 years maybe! I’m not a flashy guy but I am very curious about that M5 when I just wanna have fun. I do have access to my Father’s 911t S and it’s something special. But I like saving more than I like spending tbh. I wear lots of black shirts when I go out instead of all the luxury Italian brands that my colleagues and friends usually wear. I do spend on watches tho! Hahaha
Take care and thanks again for such a thoughtful response. I will be sure to like and watch all of your videos, Josh
@brianbarbe9646 no debt here I was lucky to have family support who told me if I committed to the work, they’d take care of school debt. My grandma kicked in $90k initially and my folks took care of the rest and I’ve been out of debt with cars and credit cards etc. my folks are a dentist and a cardiologist in my city. I’m an only child and only grandchild so they pin their hopes on me lol. And yes there is a financial planner in my city that my parents and their friends use, he charges me 3%. I don’t believe he is a fiduciary but that’s okay for now.
Great review. You brought up a lot of good points that other reviewers either missed or didn’t think was important enough to mention. 👍
Very very detailed review. Much appreciated. Great job.
I enjoyed watching this in my limo ride to my Swiss chalet
great review! i own a 2025 camry se and i love it
Josh: Thanks! Enjoyed your videos and appreciate your assistance - helpful stuff!
Marc, thanks again for your generosity! Great connecting with you via email!
Great job,
100% agree with you on the buttons. I also love how they integrated the screen into the dashboard better. My friend has a 2019 XSE with such a high end interior. She still gets compliments on her car all the time.
Yes!! Totally agree at the better integrated screen. That was one of the first things John noticed when he got in was how much better the position of the screen was versus his Camry. 😂
I wasn't overly impressed with the styling of the new Camry, either... until I went and saw the ocean gem/black roof with premium plus package, illuminated door sills and front accent lighting in person... then I bought it.
Haha congratulations!! I haven’t yet seen an ocean gem with the black roof, but I can imagine how good that looks!
Love your logical and informative reviews. Great job!!
Thank you!
I like your car review
I’m always pleasantly surprised when I see an old Camry on the road. Here up north it’s not uncommon to see one from the 90’s still going strong. And you’re right, it says a lot about the owner when their Camry is mint.
I miss my V6 XSE. But from your review on the CR-V Sport Touring I went and bought one. I really love it. Its more practical and its such a smooth drive for a SUV. Gas MPG is out of this world. But maybe some day I will own a Camry again. P.S. the new owner of my Camry drove 300 miles to get it. Keep doing your videos and reviews. Love 'em.
Great videos. Thanks. We like our Kia EV6 lease. Took a long time to get used to it but at current lease prices it's a cool option if an EV workds for someone.
My favorite Toyota was an Avalon. My passengers always thought they were riding in a Lexus it was so silky smooth and quiet. RIP Avalon.
I always loved the Avalon. It was also so unique compared to the ubiquitous Camry. In its last two generations, it was actually an ES downgraded to be a Toyota so they could spread the costs of building the ES across two vehicle programs.
The extra tech is the Achilles' Heel of cars. Speedometers should still at least be analog.
I agree at the extra tech, but I do really like having a digital speedometer for quick glance reads at how fast I’m going. Especially on our inner city roads where speed traps are all over the place. But I’m with you on gauges. If the screen goes out, I want a fallback.
Hi Josh. Nice review. I have never considered a Camry, although I see quite a few on the road speeding like sports cars. When I say speeding I mean speeding along with dodging in and out of traffic. That blue really stands out it is a beautiful color. In your previous review of the plug in hybrid you mentioned emptying the gas tank do you also recommend that for non plug in hybrids? Back in the day we had a Toyota Cressida which at that time was considered their luxury version of a sedan before Lexus was introduced. Prior to Covid we went to an auto where Toyota was really promoting the Rav 4. It had a lot of the options you look for in a vehicle. The 360 camera and quite a few other features. Again, great review. Thank you.
Nice color
love the channel and love that ocean color!
Thank you!! And the color is amazing!
23:00 exactly me today :) I'm that guy who's last cars include Porsche Boxster, 911, dodge charge scat pack widebody...I used to drive a lot pre-COVID and just wanted a nice driving car. Now with 3 kids and looking at options, I'm happy with a Camry. Dealing with an unreliable expensive German sports car can be really stressful and doesn't make you happy. Tried them all - Camry SE/XSE is best driving sedan with a decent backseat for kids and under 40k. Other sedans feel floaty and SUV like and the Camry feels like it's on rails and go-cart like in comparison.
Lexus ES 350 would be my next choice, but this 2025 Camry SE/XSE drives much better. Comparing the 2, aside from the V6 (which feels sluggish as far as responsiveness versus the 5th gen hybrid), everything on the Camry is better (including the back seat and high trim features). When the ES is upgraded with the Camry goodness, that will be a great car, but I got a feeling they'll keep it more floaty/luxury for the target market.
Great review. Fun fact, Camry comes from the Japanese word for crown.
Yes!!
hey my brother, as soon as you get your hands on the new 2026 rav4 hybrid later this year, please do a review, i want to upgrade from my 2020 model. cheers and great work.
I can’t wait to see what they do with the Rav, and will do!
Thanks for your very informative assessment of the new Camry. I’ve heard nothing but good about it from all reviews.
You’re welcome! There’s really not much to complain about here for the price!
I bought one and I’m very happy
Excellent review! Logical, factual, honest and clearly presented. CR like! 😊
XSE or XLE? AWD required 🇨🇦
Thank you! Either is great. I think I would personally go for the XLE because I like the white-ish interior and I would rather have the 18” wheels. But the XSE with the sport suspension does feel a little more firm and precise. Test drive both and see what you prefer.
Wow. This video got a lot of views. Nice job. Appreciate the explanation of what an "ECVT" is. Also made me feel better that someone much younger and more tech savvy than a geezer like me struggled with the Toyota instrument cluster set up. I had the same issue with our Grand Highlander. Good thing I don't care about much beyond speed, fuel level and coolant temp.
Same here Brian on all of your points.
@brianbarbe9646 Haha yes at the instrument cluster setup. It’s a mess… hopefully they’ll improve it with software updates over time.
@josh-on-cars do you have any opinions on Camry vs Audi A4 for the price diff? I was heavily considering Audi but my local dealer doesn’t ever have much inventory since pandemic. I know we aren’t comparing apples & oranges. And Audi would have cost another $12$-$17k likely based on my choices.
@2004cyrus Personally I’ve never been a huge fan of the A4… and as you may know the A4 is going away since it’s at the end of its generational run (came out in 2016), and the A5 is the new gas engine sedan going forward (even numbers will be reserved for electric Audis from here on out). I’m excited to see what that looks like and I don’t think you missed out on anything by not buying the current (outgoing) A4. But in general I do love Audi’s design language and technology. Their cars are the most timeless of all the Germans. I think BMW and Mercedes have gotten really trendy and gaudy as of late. Audi knows how to do restrained avant-Garde design, and I think if I were ever to buy an EV, it would be some kind of eTron. They really do live their “Vorsprung durch Technik” or Progress through Technology mantra.
@josh-on-cars I’m handing on your way very wise word! Wow I agree with all of that! I did drive an eTron. I don’t know about the end of this generation of A4 and no more. I don’t regret my decision so far. I love how Audi is restrain with styling compared to the other 2 that are not my preference style wise many times. Thanks for such a nuanced reply!
Torn between the "heavy metal" grey with that red interior or the Ocean Gem with black inside. But that front grill is awesome in the Ocean Gem...it looks like a modern art sculpture of a ocean wave
Those are both great colors! I love the red interior so I’d probably go with heavy metal. The red just looks more special to me. But the ocean gem is absolutely spectacular too!
Wow! You are all blue today! Car, shirt, glasses and blue skies! Does that mean you're playing for the blue team now?! 😘
Haha I absolutely do!!!
Enjoyed your review.
We ordered an ocean gem XLE, which arrives in a couple weeks. Been driving a 2011 XLE, no issues and super well maintained. 😊
I'm fine with no memory seats as with women we wear different lengths of shoes and like to change our seating situation. 😊
Looking fwd to the new XLE!
Congratulations!! That will be gorgeous! I’m actually surprised the XLE doesn’t have that because the last one did. Or maybe it was an option.
Ah, the beauty of colors. And, something besides black on the interior. Kirk Kreifels got 62mpg on the LE model. Toyota has hybrid down.
They definitely do!
Thanks for the review, Josh! It would also be great to hear your opinion about the new Toyota Crown Signia which is also less than $50k and fully manufactured in Japan.
Yes! I’m hoping to be able to do that sometime soon too. They’re just now hitting dealers, and I imagine there will probably be a line of folks waiting for one but as soon as I can get one, I’ll give it a go.
I just bought the new LE and it drives like a dream coming from a 2014 Yaris hatchback 🤭 SO much quieter and softer ☁️
I bought a 2025 XLE with premium package 3 weeks ago. Luckily my fit and finish is much better. I got reservoir blue because it was the only Camry on the lot. I’m happy with it for the most part. I’ve hit 44.4 miles per gallon. I have always bought Mazdas and their fit and finish is really great.
Ah the XLE is great too. That’s probably the one I’d buy too because I like the interior better than the XSE.
@josh-on-cars Honestly if my dealer had an XSE I probably would have gone for that one but there was 1 Camry on their showroom floor with a big red bow and it was the Reservoir Blue. In my head I liked the car and sat in it but the color was a deal killer for me as I never have wanted a blue car. The salesperson was super though except he didn’t know how to explain the ECVT. But I was there for 6 hours! At the end of the 5th hour I was tired and I was thinking I wanted a Camry and didn’t feel like waiting months for other colors and trims arrived so I finally told the manager okay I’ll take the blue Camry before it sells, an elderly came in and started telling the salesman they wanted to make a deal. I could hear them a few feet over from me. I had to pull trigger or walk away. The blue gets tons of compliments from a variety of people when I’m out and about.
I have the XLE also, fully loaded with AWD. I prefer the faux Alcantara interior and only the XLE has memory seats. Real leather on a $40k Camry, but imitation leather on a $75k Lexus? Wow, I can’t complain about my OTD price of $41k (I haggle really well 😊).
@kayanoreeves1949 I fully agree on the XLE. I also much prefer the white-ish interior option in there over the black or red in the XSE.
I have an older 2012 Mazda 3 that has been an absolute tank. It’s approaching 300,000 miles though and I’m planning on upgrading to something bigger. It’ll be a reward for finishing school and starting my career too. Would have went with a Mazda 6 if those were still around, but I’m seriously considering either a new Camry or Hybrid Accord now. I think I’m leaning towards the Camry. My parents told me to future proof myself and get an even larger RAV4, Honda CRV, or Mazda CX5/CX50, but I want a sedan lol.
Color gorgeous..fit and finish shocked..😮 I will keep my 22 ES350 FSPORT V6
Right!? I was really surprised by that because the Kentucky plant usually puts out cars that rival Japan in terms of fit and finish. But… first model year problems definitely exist even with Toyota. And I’d most definitely keep your V6 ES!
Great review Josh. You provide excellent content. I agree 100% with your validation philosophy. I own a Grand Highlander hybrid and could not justify buying a TX with those stupid electronic door handles although I can afford to buy it. I like the color coordination of your shirt and sunglass tint. Also love your Submariner 😊. I just subscribed. ✌ peace bro
Thank you! I personally think the TX is an absolute joke (I have a review on the base 350 here on the channel, hated it) so regardless of the status symbol and prestige badge factor, I think you got the better car with the Grand Highlander. I can’t imagine why anyone would buy a TX since you can literally get a loaded Grand Highlander for basically the same price as a base TX350.
I really like the new Camry. Especially that color. Nov 2023 because good deals on new cars were available and used car values were high. I also notice that Toyota was moving much of it's line to hybrids. I thought about the Crown but not nuts about it and thought the price was way to much. Out of curiosity I check out the Lexus ES line.
I traded my 2013 Avalon limited V6, 44,000 miles for fully optioned ES350 base. Sticker was $50,150. Negotiated it down to ~ $46,000. So well below a Crown. Glad I bought the Lexus. You have to own a Lexus to appreciate all the little things that make it a luxury car.
You can’t go wrong with the last V6. And I completely agree about Lexus-I’m so glad I bought my 2023 GX460 before they got rid of the V8.
@ Just learned something today. The new V6 2019-current. It is suggested to replace spark plugs around 60,000 miles. Time is not a factor.
Your car reviews are absolutely the best! 😎
Thank you! Your comments are absolutely the best!
@josh-on-cars 😁😁
About the dashboard display, I think you got a different version. If you get the smaller size version....everything bunch together and you don't have 3 separate screens. Now that I know what you're talking about, I am glad I didn't get the bigger dashboard display.
Yes, this is the upgraded 12-inch digital gauge cluster that’s become available or standard now across many Toyota and Lexus models. I know exactly which one you’re talking about; the 8-inch digital display is what’s in the lower end vehicles, but I agree with you, it’s a whole lot better and much easier to use than the 12-inch version.
Great review. Toyota again doing what it does best. A25A engine very good. Be interesting if we get a Camry for the uk market
This should have been my title. Toyota doing what it does best. ❤️
Josh: I had a Cadillac STS I chose the base XLE Crown 25 I felt it was a better fit getting in and out for me. Like you said Toyota’s drive alike also the speedometer screen is a mess to try to set up. I’ve spent hours on it sitting in the garage. I did try on the road driving it was too complicated and took away my attention from the road as you mentioned. I’m in northern Louisiana the all wheel drive has come on twice or three times. Making me wonder why. Hope you continue posting these great reviews. 😊😊
Oh man I loved the Cadillac STS. I wish they’d kept that around… that was always the best looking of their sedans. More stately than the smaller CTS, but not frumpy like the DeVille/XTS. Anyhow… congrats on the Camry!! I’m sure you’re saving a ton on gas versus the STS too! As for AWD, Toyota’s intelligent AWD isn’t just for when the vehicle loses traction. It will come on sometimes if the system thinks it should use the rear wheels to kick in for a better takeoff (like getting off the line) or if the rear wheels helping to push the car will give you better handling in whatever situation you’re in. :) I see that happening in my Rsv4 Prime too. Totally normal, and just the car giving you the best balance of power and efficiency that it can.
The body-colored front grill actually makes it look like a Lexus. It looks similar RX350 front grill.
Yes! Though I personally think the beluga whale or overbite look of the RX is unattractive. I think the Camry and Crown Signia pull it off better.
So much more than a car review
I hope that’s a good thing, thank you!
Hello Josh, love your reviews cause you're so detailed with pointing out interior materials and quality. However, I am curious. It looks like this Camry you reviewed has 19"rims and 40" profile tires. Typically with low profile tires, when driven over road irregularities/ripples and imperfections in the road, you get extra vibration or reverberations in the suspension and body structure vs when older Camry's had higher profile tires. How was this compared to those older Camry's. Did it feel more or less solid?
Thank you! I was actually really impressed by how nicely this Camry rode even considering it has big wheels and low profile tires. I felt like the suspension was tuned to be softer than it is in our V6 Camry with the same setup. But it’s all up to personal preference. And, if you don’t want that kind of ride you can get most of the same features on the equivalent XLE which I think comes with 18” wheels and softer suspension tuning.
Your review really like when you have an normal and friendly conversation with someone you close to, And have nothing to hide or fake from you ...that my impressionist of your car reviewing....keep up buddy
Thank you! I’m so glad it comes across that way, that’s fully my intent. When I’m filming these I don’t feel like I’m taking to the camera but rather to all of you watching as if you were in the car with me!
@josh-on-cars one of the best in the car reviews game, I enjoyed every 30 minutes of it
Hey Josh love the channel. Does the 2025 Camry have power folding mirrors?
It does not. For that, you’ll have to get the Lexus ES. And thank you! Glad you’re enjoying!
Ive had an IS250, X5, Have my lariat, went in for a Tacoma and walked out with a 2025 Camry Ocean , great car, and price!
Awesome!! It’s a truly outstanding car. So much more value than the Tacoma, too.
I was able to get a xle for $2,900 off the sticker price.
Congratulations!! Discounts are definitely back now that the market has shifted back to excess supply and lower demand!
@ that thing is great too. It’s all you could ask for in a car pretty much.
Besides the new Camry, I am looking at the lower end model of the Toyota Crown as well. Yes, it's a little more expensive, but it's NOT Lexus expensive especially if you go for any model BUT the Platinum version. For the extra $7-$8K, the ride is more quiet & luxurious, and you get AWD. Although it is also a Sedan, the Crown sits 4" higher which is closer to the height of some SUVs. But, because the Crown is a heavier car, the MPG will drop to an average of 41 MPG, which is still impressive for a larger car.
I agree with the ride height but the Camry offers AWD on all trims for 2025 as well. Price wise, the Crown starts at $41K and the ES starts at $43K and ES hybrid starts at $44K. So yes, the Crown is Lexus expensive. It doesn’t have all wheel drive, but it is a much nicer sedan than the Crown even with how premium the Crown itself is. And definitely consider the ownership experience you get with Lexus in that extra $2-3K. Since the ES is almost certainly getting redesigned for the 2026 model, if you don’t need to buy right away, it is definitely worth waiting to see what the next ES looks like before you decide one way or another.
Your home is beautiful-- most of us can only dream of.
I think it looks nicer than it is in real life. 😂
@josh-on-cars You're too modest Josh, that's why you're so appealing.
Your argument is on point. Very well said my friend.
Check out videos on older Crowns as they were JDM cars like the Century, particularly 2006-2016/17 😊
Thank you! And thanks as always for watching! And YES at the Crown! The new actual Crown sedan in Japan is absolutely stunning too… I honestly think that should have come here instead of the weird lifted crossover sedan.
@josh-on-cars ruclips.net/video/GAEo4QPQTHs/video.htmlsi=qBXAwKamDygauRbE
@josh-on-cars agreed! Watch this video :)
Regarding pricing of cars nowadays: wait until you see Honda’s pricing. $55k for a Pilot Black Edition, $45k for a CR-V, etc. then you have to deal with the crazy APRs right now. Honestly, it sucks if you really need a car right now. Go 2nd hand? Deal with the crazy price and crazier APRs at 9.99%.
Regarding the car: it looks stunning! The colour’s looking really good.
Honda’s pricing is high but not as bad IMO. They’re on par with their competitors in the market which are all expensive. Toyota is on a whole other level of ridiculous with the way they’re pricing their new trucks and SUVs.
I wish it was a plugin wagon. The new crown signing is so expensive compared to the Camry
I’m guessing we’ll get a plug in Crown Signia since it exists in Japan. But yes! The Crown Signia is definitely expensive relative to the Camry.
so wait until next year for the improvements to the quality control...i got the first mazda 3 2019 redesign and theres several electronic issues i experience.
Most definitely. I never recommend buying first model year when it comes to cars. Every car has issues when it comes out and buying second or third year ensures you avoid most of them!
great review!! question. Should i get the Camry 2025 SE or Camry 2024 SE- non hybird? i cant decide lol
The non-hybrid is a non-starter for me. The hybrid is more efficient, more reliable, has more power, is quieter and nicer to drive, and will have much better resale value. All for maybe $1-2K more.
Toyota gets me so depressed on there prices
Dealerships markup are out of control
No markup on my new Camry
Blue are the people here
that walk around
Blue like my Camry, its in and outside...
Another great review. I am blown away by the Camry and the Crown. It hurts how much better these products are compared to Lexus, a point you bring up across multiple areas (interior, ride, engine, etc.). Why is Toyota doing this? I don't understand the strategy... I might lease something until Lexus improves enough to be worthy of a purchase.
If you haven’t already, go and watch the video I’ve linked at the end of this comment… that’s my guess because I can’t think of any other reason Lexus is putting out such banal vehicles right now. ruclips.net/video/x1vX_DuWZFg/video.html
Love your review... you clearly love toyotas but not unfair with other options like other channels do and they pretend they are not biased downing toyotas
Thank you!
@josh-on-cars you’re welcome
I just bought one that color but with the black roof
Also panoramic sunroof
Congratulations!!! That’s a great spec!!
I am amazed: you can make a car evaluation of a really boring car super exciting and enjoyable. I just don't know how you do that! Thanks again.
Haha thank you!! I’m so glad it was exciting and enjoyable! Thanks for watching!
If I did swap out my Camry, it would be this Ocean color. Tech wise, it's awesome...just the driving experience that's keeping me on my v6.
I have this cluster on my loaded XSE RAV4. On the settings...I too changed it from the default and I couldn't find settings either. You have to stick it back to the middle in order for it to "be tthere". I agree there needs to be more rails on this....also--most of the gauge information is FRICKING USELESS.
Did this come with a heads up display?
Haha! Yes but I hope you never end up flipping your V6 Camry. The hybrid is great but definitely not the same driving experience we have. It isn’t nearly as fast or as smooth, sadly.
And yes this can come with a head up display but you have to option into it on the XLE and XSE.
2:30 i went to 3 dealers in sf bay area and out the door price is over $50k
Unless you’re looking at a top end trim with all the options, there’s no way it should be $50K. You need to laugh in their faces and walk right out.
Great review! It’s why I keep coming back 😎. Thank you Josh.
Thank you! And thanks for always coming back!
Miss aligned TRIM ?!?!?!
What puts the 2025 Camry ahead of Honda's Accord is several things:
1. AWD option - I think they're doing this because of their Acura branch. The Accord really should be given an AWD option
2. Hybrid entry level is at the base level of the Camry, you have to go up to the Sports-L/Touring to get the hybrid
3. Overall design of the exterior is much better looking (imo) vs. the accord. It's sharper and more aggressive looking
4. Color. The Accord on the interior does not have a lot of color to it, just a ton of the same color/monotoned. Camry, you're given a lot of options (White, Red, Black, etc.)
I'll be getting a new car soon, and I think the Camry will be it. My only issue, dealerships in my area only getting Gray/Black options, not a lot of Ocean Gem/White which is the color I want.
I agree with most of this. The only thing I’ll say to #2 is that most people won’t go for the base trims of either anyway. Also, Honda’s interior quality and the Google-based infotainment system on the Accord I think are better than what’s in this Camry. But it is missing a lot of other nice features.
@josh-on-cars I agree with the interior. I really do like the overall design of the Accord interior, and the Google integrated system is nicely done. Big fan of the Touring level and how you can get the Google map integrated into the digital gauge cluster. The color/material could be a little more expansive to offer people something, just to give it some personality. I do think that the Accord with the next re-design could introduce a couple things to make it competitive with the Camry with the exterior and drivetrain.
You can't go wrong with either, but for me personally, I like what the Camry can bring to the table.
You forgot to mention that the Camry is going to be more reliable than the Accord.
I chose the Camry over the m Accord and have no regrets. Drove them both several times. Good luck !
I've been going back and forth between the xle and Accord touring. I like that I can get AWD on the Camry but that interior looks funky to me. Piano black and cloth on the dashboard should never be done.
Nice Seamaster
Thanks! The watch in the video is a Sub, but I have two seamasters that I absolutely love! One 300m, one Planet Ocean.
@josh-on-carsHow embarrassing for me lol. When you were playing with the buttons I thought I saw the scalloped bezel, helium escape valve, and skeletonized hands of a Seamaster. I've got the black SMP and love it.
@MrBacchus18 Oh! You may have. I may have been wearing a different watch in some of the cutaway clips! :) I do swap them out all the time!
They need to put this in the next gen Rav4. The 5th gen hybrid is so good! Very punchy off the line.
I’m sure they will since the NX is already on gen-5 and the Rav should come out with an entirely new generation in 2026.
@charlesjackson1700 Toyota has actually said all cars will go hybrid only not just the Rav4. Sienna, Sequoia, Camry, Prius, etc. are already there. And the 4Runner now offering a hybrid, the only vehicles in the lineup to not offer a hybrid are GR cars, which would make it easy to drop the gas-only versions of the rest of them too.
What city are you driving in? I can't believe how clean it is
Austin, TX! It is a wonderful place!
Nice, humorous opinionated spin on car reviews Josh, keep it up
Haha thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
Well done!!!
Thank you!
I know what you mean about the Camry interpretation among drivers. Benz used to make generational machines that if taken care of are now echoing a forgotten past in which an S-Class felt like it was forged from steel and carved from wood symbolizing the ultimate success of which now is nothing more than pure validation.
Totally agreed about what Mercedes used to be. The same is true of Lexus, sadly. My GX460 feels like it was forged from steel and carved from wood. The new one is cheap plastic at an exorbitant price for pure external validation.
Great review Josh! I think what will be interesting for me is that normally I would get a Lexus ES, however with the direction they are going with removing all physical controls I don't know if I will actually like the updated ES. The loss of the V6 is a bit disappointing but it sounds like the hybrid performs well and I already have a Golf R if I want more performance. So maybe the Camry will actually be better a compliment? Did you look at an XLE Josh? Does it have soft touch rear door cards, anything else of note in interior improvements?
Hello! I think if you’re in the market for a new car or will be ready to buy in the next year, I’d probably go and grab the last 2025 ES with the V6, if that’s what you like. Also, in this new generation, the XLE is a tier below the XSE so what you get on the XSE is going to be as nice or nicer than what you get in the XLE. The nice thing about the XLE is I believe it has 18” wheels so you’ll probably get a softer ride in it as well.
@josh-on-cars Ah interesting, didn't realize the XSE was different in Canada, it looks our XLE is still at the top offering a couple of memory features the XSE does not have (nothing mentioned about soft touch so I bet it's still hard in the back). Also didn't see that the ES was going to stay the same in 2025 maybe I'll consider that. Thanks for the info.
@joelcummings Oh yeah, in Canada things are usually different in terms of trim and grade from the US. And yes! The current ES is great and judging by the resale of V6 Camrys here in the states (selling for above their new price), I’m sure it will be worth a mint later on.
@josh-on-cars here is where you say the. XSE is better than the XLE. Can you be more specific? Thanks
@iratashman7202 I replied to your other comment please read that.
I love watched your review. it is like a friend's review
I'm so glad you felt that way! :)
Hoping to see your review and option on the crown signia. There are lots of reviews but they’re eh blah. lol
If I can get my hands on one, I will definitely do a proper video on it!
I drove one. I loved it, but do not consider it worth more than $20 000 more than the Camry. That's 3 ski vacations! I did like that the suspension seemed smoother (but not sure if it is different), there's 2 seat settings for 2 riders, the side mirrors fold in while parking automatically like a spaceship. I know, not a big deal, but cool nonetheless. One thing I didn't like about the Signia is there is not a full sized spare tire. You can put one in,but the trunk mat if you will will not lay flush. I think the battery may be under where the spare tire should have been? There's no way I am driving in the snow in the Rocky mountains without a spare tire!
@nadineacker3010 Do be aware that your Camry does not have a full size spare either, it’s a donut spare.
So I can get the 2025 Camry xse without the panaromic roof because most of the dealers and Toyota they act like that it comes standard like it’s not a optional thing
Build a 2026 model online-things do change year to year and maybe that is the case now, I haven’t looked recently. You might also be able to get it with just the regular single-panel moonroof like what comes on the SE with moonroof, but I’m not sure about that. That said, for 2025 the XSE started as cheap as $35K but anything with the pano roof was closer to $40 or $41.
You should trade up to a house with a much bigger garage to have a whole stable of cool vehicles.
Haha! If interest rates and home prices weren’t so high I would! But also, it’s a good thing that we don’t have the space for 5 cars!!
Thanks for explaining the difference between ECVT and older CVT. I get irritated when reviewers refer to this as CVT. Different mechanical engineering and operating principles. If you watch videos about the newer Toyota ECVTs, it is actually a simple but effective design.
Yes! Simple, effective, and 27 years old since it came out in the first gen Prius in 1997.
@josh-on-cars No belts, chains or pulleys. Continuous improvement, that’s what Toyota does best.
Agree. RX is a fail for this generation. Hence the value for the older RX is holding so well.
Is the inerior BLACK or GREY? I like the bluish shade but can't tell which color it is.
This interior is black. XSE only comes with a black or red interior.
I wanted v6...it was too expensive
Is Toyota building any camry XLE with the QP pkg? I cant any
Not sure what the QP package refers to but if you don’t see any in your region it may mean that it’s not a popular option there and so you may want to look at other states to see if you can find one elsewhere and have it shipped to you. A lot of times regions will request that cars not get sent to their region with specific options because they know they’ll have a hard time selling.
33 MPG indicated for a Toyota hybrid? That is really poor if correct.
As stated clearly in the video, that is NOT correct but also remember when cars are new they often end up sitting on lots and idling with the engine on, etc. so it could have been doing that for months before I ever got into it. My real world average in this car driving it without consideration to efficiency was 45-48.
You said it, a boring cvt appliance. Maybe I'll take a look at the new Tundra 4 banger. lol
You get a real transmission… and real transmission failures in there. 😂
Is the LE more comfortable?
Depends what you’re comparing it against? I think all Camrys are pretty comfortable, but it wouldn’t be as comfortable as a Lexus ES or something. And a Honda Accord might be firmer but quieter.
Question: How is the wireless charging? Toyota wireless chargers for me have been worthless. They say they are charging but the actual charging is so low my phone will actually lose charge. Just curious if they have improved =)
That’s how wireless charging is in general whether in a car or on a desk. Because of the way wireless charging units conduct electricity (I won’t go into detail on the magnetic coils that they use), a lot of the energy generated is lost and wasted in transmission. That’s why you don’t see any kind of wireless charging for cars either. There would be too much net loss in power generated for it to make sense. There’s no replacement for metal on metal contact for power transfer.
Hi Josh,what are your thoughts on the Toyota Crown?I'll wait for your response if you come across this comment..
Hello! I address that in the last chapter at the end of the video, but in short, I personally don’t really see the point of the Crown. For basically the same price as the base and mid trims, you can get an ES300h (or 350 if you want the V6) which gives you more luxury. And if you’re after performance, for a bit more than the Platinum trim, you can get an IS500. The only two things I think the Crown offers is the higher ride height. The more interesting Crown is the Crown Signia which is basically a Camry wagon.
Question about Adaptive Cruise. Do you actually have to move the steering wheel to turn off the prompt to touch the steering wheel? In other words does the steering wheel have a touch sensor? My 2023 Lexus NX350 does have a touch sensitive steering wheel. In my opinion if the steering wheel doesn’t have a touch sensor then it renders Adaptive Cruise unusable. I recently bought my wife a 2025 Lexus UX300h and we were very disappointed that it doesn’t have a touch sensitive steering wheel. So I was searching Toyota models in general to see if they were the same and found your video. Thanks for your vids!
Hello! Most cars with TSS/LSS 3.0 will have the touch capacitive steering wheel. Anything with 2.0 or 2.5 will not have it. The UX is nearing the end of its generational run (it’s the Lexus version of the current-gen Corolla hatchback which launched in 2018) and thus has the much older system. Overall you’ll find your NX has much better lane trace, adaptive cruise, and obstacle avoidance.
@josh-on-cars The New 2025 UX300h has 3.0. Yet it does not have a touch sensitive wheel. We just bought it Aug 3,2024. 🤷♂️
Oh that’s news to me, and I’m glad to hear that! It’s likely then that they didn’t change the actual steering wheel (going back to it being an older vehicle) and so the feature just got taken out. Your NX was a clean sheet redesign from 2022 and so it has the new Lexus steering wheel that’s used on all new-gen vehicles now.
Update-I just googled and you’re right, it has 3.0 but it looks like it’s missing some of the more advanced (but IMO useless) features which I imagine would require some different hardware. This is good to know that there are some vehicles with this kind of configuration.
@josh-on-cars The car itself is very nice and it’s perfect for one driver(no kids). Great gas mileage. We got the top line FSport 2 model. However, we would have just got the NX350h if we knew about the steering wheel. Unfortunately Lexus just lists the features which are the same. Thanks for responding (subbed for support!☺️) Honestly, I think having to jerk the wheel every minute is a safety hazard.
I think Toyota will continue to perfect there hybred and one day soon it will be a powerful mofo.
We’re already there with the hybrid max system! :) The standard non-turbo hybrid system will always be aimed at efficiency and so power will never be its mission in life.
I think the reason Honda does not include all-wheel drive in the Accord is because it is not necessary ,but at the same time their car should be cheaper than the Camry
AWD can be really useful for those who want a sedan but get serious winter weather. For the longest time if you wanted AWD you were stuck buying a much more expensive crossover, so I like that we’re seeing it on affordable sedans these days.
@josh-on-carsagree, I'm just concerned that adding all-wheel drive may affect reliability, and by the way, if you are not a good driver in snowy conditions no all-wheel, four-wheel is going to help you. It's better to just stay home.
No, AWD won’t affect reliability at all. It’s the same eAWD system (electric motor on the rear axel) that’s been used in the Rav4, RX, Highlander, Prius, NX, and other hybrids for years. And Toyota’s hybrids consistently rank higher in reliability than their non-hybrid counterparts.
e-awd is coming to Honda in 2026 per other car reviewers.
Are you gonna get one Josh?
Nooo, we’re so happy with our current cars I don’t think we need anything else at the moment. And I definitely wouldn’t trade our V6 Camry for this one.
your next test drive car should be Lexus es300h 2024 to tell us the difference versus this Camry =)
I actually am spending the day with one as we speak! Don’t have time to do a full on review but will be sharing some of that. :)
@josh-on-cars awesome!!
@joshjamescars looking forward to it. I'm debating on getting the 2024 EsH
@shawnbl2048 Don't because it's getting updated in 2025. Wait for the update to decide.
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Hi Josh, because Crowns are not very highly sought after, the lowest price I have seen available for Platinum Crown is $46k (from 55k MSRP). Would you recommend getting the Crown Platinum at around $46-47k range (very doable these days) consider you are getting that ultra powerful Hybrid Max power?
WOW! That’s a really good deal. That would definitely make the Crown more appealing. I think I would personally still do the Camry because I would rather have a super efficient car if I’m buying a Toyota sedan (the Crown Platinum with the Hybrid Max is kind of a gas guzzler for what it is, like all Hybrid Max cars as that powertrain was designed for performance and not efficiency) but that’s just me. The other thing you should think about, it may not be right for you, is whether you want an IS350 which is also around 46-47. For better performance, that’s the way I would go if you don’t need a midsize sedan. The Hybrid Max is more powerful on paper but doesn’t drive nearly as nicely as the V6.
@josh-on-cars thanks, that’s a good point. Also I feel Hybrid Max is still kinda in low production volume (only 3-4 models if I count correctly) indicating that Toyota/Lexus might still need time to field test the long term reliability. I think I’ll sit this one out for now.
@shawnacevedo8842 Yes! Though it’s the same engine that’s in all the new 4-cylinder trucks also. But, with that said, I think it needs more time in the oven. I think now is the time to buy a V6, but for anything else, it makes sense to wait a bit.
Is the steering lighter than non hybrid? Thanks
There is no non-hybrid version in this generation. Every 2025 Camry is a hybrid. You’d have to look at specific trims (e.g., an XSE is meant to be sportier and thus might have heavier steering than an XLE).
@ i forgot. We have non hybrid camry and hybrid models in my country. The camry 2023 had normal steering, not light like on gx550, nor heavy.
But is the steering lighter in comparison with your v6 camry? Or previous camrys 2.5?
I test drove the XLE twice and am picking mine up next week. Some of the reviews here on YT describe a quasi-religious experience. Let's get real. It's a very nice, comfortable, well-equipped car. It should be reliable. The e-CVT is an engineering marvel with its twin motors/generators. The "mouse fur" trim is hideous. I plan to keep the car ten years.
Awesome choice!
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say you're wrong (because you're probably not, especially in regards to the current crown sedan) but the new, sort of wagon, Crown thing looks pretty spectacular. And... if it sells as poorly as the current Crown, lots of discounts can be expected. It looks more like a Lexus in and out. A super quick check, shows an XLE for $47K in DFW. Actually, i think that's MSRP. or TSRP? Color choices a bit meh. Please go drive one (so i don't have to). Value...well, hard to beat Camry for that.
The Crown Signia looks to be a great car/wagon/thing, but it’s also significantly cheaper because it doesn’t have the hybrid max engine like the sedan does, and instead shares the same A25A engine and standard hybrid system with Camry and RX. As such funny thing about the Crown Signia is that it basically is a Camry wagon reincarnated!
@josh-on-cars cool. Just started watching your road trip vid. I was about to say…what about the Prada store!!…and now you’re there. 😂
I took the Crown Signia for a test drive. Spectacular, comfortable ride. I loved the chocolate color. I opted for the Camry SE in underground because so much cheaper, and I'm loving it. Maybe a Signia in my next lifetime
Black seats and black inner roof lining makes it very dark and gloomy. Should have a choice for white roof lining
Totally agree. I believe the XLE does come standard with the light gray headliner, and in there you can also get the light-grey/white leather seats as well! Pano roof also helps immensely to brighten up the cabin.
Hard to find grey interior,
@adrienchan2097 I see a fair number of them where I live.
Under $30k? Where?😂
I see all trims, but especially base Camry LEs being discounted by over $1K where I am. Would bring you to around $29 before taxes and fees.
Is it still built in Japan?
Camry has been made in Kentucky since the 80s.
@josh-on-cars Shame, thought the hybrid would come from Japan like my Prius; Bulletproof.
@JD-xo3xz Nope. A lot of hybrids are made in the US or Canada including Camry, ES, RX, NX, and others.
Not him flashing us his new ray ban glasses to blend with the car.
Im going to be honest, your Camry is quieter than the new one, but you right abt the front...he is gorgeous in person.
Now, compared to your Camry...who the most comfy and easy to use ?
Abt the crown ... that is a Japanese car, Toyota should never bring to US to be honest. They are trying to popularize the Crown in North America , I think to bring more revenue to Toyota, but that price is crazy for a Crown when you can grab a 2022 or 2023 ES 350 or RX450(if you looking for the v6 and comfort).
Would I buy one Camry instead of Accord or Sonata...uhhh ion.
PSA: read the manual the infotainment page, how to personalize the cluster
Haha! I actually ended up buying two pairs of those because I liked them so much. I now have them with the blue Hawaii lenses and the standard black lenses LOL.
As for comfort, I think that goes to the new one. I was really surprised at how cushy this XSE felt. Our V6 is definitely more firm, but I think that matches the vibe of the V6. The hybrid isn’t about sporting driving so having it tuned to feel a little softer makes sense. This new Camry also shares its seats with the Prius, which means they’re really comfy but lacking the bolstering we have in our Camry. Again, makes sense since you don’t need that with a hybrid.
As for the Crown… it’s a Japanese car that from what I understand not even the Japanese like. I’ve heard that in Japan, Crown Sport and the actual luxury Crown touring sedan outsell the crown crossover (what our crown is called there).
@josh-on-cars Toyota should start sending some cars to test drive. Like crown 👑 for example 😁
$42k for 4 Cylinder craycray
Going hybrid only is a dumb move imo especially in the Canadian market. They are only importing SE and up - no more L or LE models. That naturally means the price point has been pushed higher. $37k CDN before taxes?? Now add a minimum 6 month wait time and dealer mark ups on top of the msrp and you have a car that’s no longer aimed at average consumers. Oh and that beautiful blue? Only available on the much more expensive XLE AWD. Gee thanks Toyota 😒
Yeah Toyota has been giving Canadians the middle finger for years now… if I were Canadian I’d be giving them the finger right back by taking my business elsewhere.