The car itself is fine, the issue with Toyota right now is the buying experience: Between chronic low inventory, dealer add-ons, market adjustments, and not being able to custom order, it’s a hard no for me. Up until 2 mos ago, I had owned Camry’s since ‘04 (6 in total)- No more, Toyota dealers (at least near me) absolutely suck
I expected this too, but surprisingly they're selling for MSRP or even a little less around here. No stupid Pulse junk either. The inventory problem I see is they're almost all LE trim, seriously like 9 LEs for every one XLE or XSE when searching inventory.
I bought my first Camry, a 1998 in August of ‘97. It has 170K. One of these days I’ll have to buy a new one but with the outstanding dependability of this one, I’m in no hurry.
@GodleyXnot anywhere close $45, that’s top spec. I just paid 37,750 after dealer negotiations. No it’s not inexpensive anymore but I wanted a loaded model. People want lots of tech and great mpg’s and that cost a lot of money. I get 50.3 mpg’s and spend $56/ month on gasoline. The Camry does everything well. My first Toyota and first hybrid, not bad. I had a budget of $145,000. I’m proud that I walked away from BMW M5 Competition sedan. No regrets but I’ll sell if I don’t like it in a year.
I just bought the 2025 SE Camry. At 1st I was having buyer’s remorse because I wanted the V6 but this really grew on me! It goes just fine for my needs. Tickets really aren’t one of them & I live in moderate traffic areas so 236HP is fine
I just bought the 2025 LE with convenience package, I think its the best choice for the money, definitely the fastest, and the better mpg than the se or xse, I really don't care about sun roof at all, or all wheel drive, its much more quiet and comfortable due to the 16" tires.
Why on earth would you buy a Tesla over a Camry that gives you no problems, cheap to buy and run, and great resale, well built , and will run for 30 years.
Several reasons, my Tesla has instant torque, unmatched by any gas car or hybrid. Amazing performance, and gets over 130 MPGe. A lot of tech not available from other brands. Most people don't keep cars 30 years. I am planning on 6-8. CR just confirmed that Teslas are cheapest cars to maintain of any brand. I do respect Toyota going to an all hybrid line up with the new Camry. Fuel efficiency is very important.
And it probably won't spy on you and send everything that happens in and around the vehicle to Toyota HQ where compromising or embarrassing situations can be shared amongst employees. Tesla has been caught doing that.
@benhaze1010 Better engine in respect to it's previous hybrid. V6 is just a different engine all together with a far worse mileage for more power and more loudness. Too different to weigh against each other fairly.
Just rented the new Camry LE for two days, just to see how it works. I managed 55miles per gallon, cruising at 65 miles per HOUR, on a 250 mile trip. Subsequently, I managed 51miles per gallon, cruising at 71 miles per HOUR on a 400 mile trip. The transition from ICE to EV power although I could see it on the screen animation, was pretty much imperceptible. Very impressed with gas mileage. My only issue was the seats were not comfortable, and the steering was not as accurate or responsive as my 2020 Accord Hybrid, or the new 2024 models that I have rented as of late. Interior, just seemed made of cheaper materials. But if my only choices were the Hybrid Camry or Hybrid Accord, I would lean towards the Accord, just because of its sportier handling.
Its the hybrid MPG range that is impressive even w/awd almost can double my XSE V6. While I don't agree with hybrids on the body on frame models it fits the unibodies. The Gov should be promoting hybrids as the next step before pure EV.
Please do a comparison between the Camry and the Honda Hybrid. I recently purchased a 2020 Honda Hybrid and I love it. But it does have a whinier powertrain. So I would like to see the two new leaders compared, before I decide to upgrade!
I bought the 2024 Camry Assent Sport (the middle model) as it’s called here in Australia. Could not be happier as I am getting just on 1000 kilometres (620 miles) to a tank.
At the end of my lease in a few months, I am turning in a 2022 RAV4 SE hybrid and will be leasing a 2025 Camry XSE AWD … pretty excited to go back to a Camry after owning an SUV for three years… The SUV is nice with the ground clearance however, I miss my Camry that I owned previously
Hey CR, regarding the 0W8 Mobil1Snythetic oil, the oil can be easily found at Wal-Mart and some auto parts stores with the 0W8 rating. The price is along the same lines as other full synthetic oils, ranging from $25-$30 for a 5-Quart Container for Mobil1 Full-Synthetic 0W8 engine oil. I like Mobil-1 full synthetic engine oil. So, that is a good thing. Oil Filters are about the same as any other filter, depending on brand. I prefer either buying the oil-filter from Toyota or from O'Reilly using the WIX brand oil filter, which sets the filter standard bar quite high....again, with price being average compared to other name brand oil-filters.
I went to test drive a SE it had a couple of the packages stuck on. It was stickered at $33.542. No mark up, no dealer added nonsense. I told him I liked it well enough but thought it was too much. We kept at it and I finally agreed to $31.087. almost $2.500 discount. I'm not aware of Toyota's being discounted anywhere.
Great episode. I'm glad to hear that the CR crew will be buying an Camry SE, as the take rate of the SE in the past generation, I believe, was actually greater than that of the LE. It feels like this is the right choice for your readers. I think the criticism of the gauge cluster on the X-trims is a bit picayune; you learn the menus pretty quickly, and its also basically the same digital cluster in most Toyotas. I guess nitpicking is good, though, bc it speaks to the execution of the vehicle overall. Also, I loved the questions about the "sample defects." Would love to see that again.
The Prius gets more mpg, and if choosing a hybrid Camry that gets 5-10 more mpg than a non hybrid Camry. You can bet that a Prius that gets 10-15 more mpg will seem like a worthy purchase.
If you are taller than 6’1” your choice in sedans is the Camry with no sunroof. The Corolla and Prius are too small and at 6’2” my head hits the roof in the Corolla.
Just bought a new 2025 XLE, A great car I love it. What I don't like is the dash and electronics are a pain in the ass to learn. I went through hell trying to learn how to pair Alexa with this car.
It means that the Camry will start at $30,000 now at minimum, and that is just the base model not including taxes and registration fees. Continues the escalation of prices. The Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon were last I remember were rated "Not Acceptable" a long time ago. I remember the Audis with sudden acceleration got that same rating as well. Plus a Toyota SUV (the Lexus GX they mention) that flipped over on the track. I am sure the Chevy Blazer EV, if they did not give the "stop sale" order to fix the software CR may have put a Do not buy on that car until it was fixed - but GM acted before CR had to do that.
10:08 agreed. I rented one for a trip to DC and after 10 hours of driving I was really wanted a longer lower cushion. which is odd because Lexus has some of the best seats I have ever been in.
I’m sure the quick oil change shops will use any cheap oil in the Camry. The customer will never know as long as the oil is brown. The business competes on price and doesn’t want to lose a customer. CR should test the shops.
Synthetic oil has been cheap for years. There is crazy markup at dealerships. But if you do the oil change yourself very little price difference. I think they are looking for things to talk about
I used to bring my own oil to garages but now none of them will allow you to do this. The same goes for auto parts. They force you to use their generic brands. Its very sad and whether they know it or not, it costs them business.. I do my own oil changes now.
Toyota's have been selling hybrids in Europe (almost) exclusively for a few years now. Yaris, Corolla, RAV4, their big sellers, Prius (of course) are all exclusively hybrids. So they have had some experience on that front, and are confident about the reliability of their systems on a large scale. Which, granted, can be a scary proposition (eggs in one basket and so on). As for their trucks, that's a different story. I wouldn't get a scaled up hybrid system for a work truck. Rather, a diesel, turbo-diesel even, or in the US, a V8.
Because of the high number of EV’s being sold in California, that state is raising the gas tax to make up for the loss of gasoline being sold. Several states are considering raising the yearly registration fees on EV’s to make up for the lost revenue from the gas taxes.
We test drove a 2025 Honda Accord hybrid the other day. Was not impressed with it in the least. I didn't like the interior vent look, the metal hatching effect. We went from the honda dealer to the toyota dealer and test drove a 2025 camry xse, also after looking at which car had a better resale value, which was the camry. Both were very comparable in price, maybe by $500 (camry being more, because it was xse). I've been a Lexus owner since 2013 (my first a 2013 GX460 next was a 2017 NX200T F-Sport.) I can say, this camry, which i ended up purchasing, is top-notch! I'm impressed! I thought I'd always be a Lexus owner, you know, once a Lexus owner, always a Lexus owner. But I'm a proud owner of a 2025 Toyota Camry XSE!
Why did you decide to get rid of the 2017? Just curious cause I just got a 2018 Lexus es350 and had a 2006 Lexus is250. Was it just time for something new?
Newsflash ......Hybrids are in demand. I have a 2020 le hybrid.....Just ticked over 200k miles that's right 200k. 1 wheel bearing replacement outside of normal maintenance thus far. Just replaced the front brake pads the rear pads are at 50% still. Rotors are good.
I have been an admirer of the Toyota hybrids forever! I think this was a good move by Toyota. For all you people that have never owned a Toyota Camry hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, Prius, Avalon hybrid, Corolla hybrid, they are great. You will love them as much as I do. Thanks Consumer Reports! You guys are incredible for speaking TRUTH! Keep it up.
I think it’s smart to make hybrids just the regular offering. More car companies should do that and stop trying to make hybrids work when they clearly aren’t what most people want or can afford. Even if hybrids could go as far as gas cars or could charge in 5 minutes the infrastructure to charge them is still 10 years or more away.
How is making hybrids the regular offering smart? Once the hybrid batteries give up it's thousands to replace and then there's the hybrid braking system that if it fails will cost as much as replacing the whole hybrid batteries. I had a Prius that hit 160K miles with no issues but once the batteries and brake recharging systems failed, the cost to replace both was almost $10K. I traded it for a regular Camry, my Prius lasted 10 years trouble free but the little money I saved on gas was less than half of what it would cost to get my Prius running normal again, NOT worth it. Meanwhile my uncle still has his old 1999 Camry with over 360K miles which he uses to drive to work everyday, and he paid $10K back then because it was pre owned. Paying $10K for a car that's 25 years old and still running, sounds like a better investment than I got for my Prius.
Yeah the style didn’t kill them. They were killed by the rising popularity of SUVs like many other sedans. Plus the later model of the Taurus got bigger outside but not inside, it became a less attractive vehicle.
Toyota Camry gets far better with the hybrid only. It will increase its reliability and low TCO leadership, making it hard for the Honda Accord to come closer to this segment's leader.
I’ve owned both. The Camry is cheaper and more reliable. The accord is very reliable. The accord is way more fun to drive and more fun to work on yourself. If you just want an appliance buy the Camry. I prefer the accord.
0W-8 Mobil One showing 27.97 for 5 quarts at Walmart for me. Not too hard to find. When I first bought my 2021 Corolla the 0W-16 cost a lot more at the time and not a lot of options.
The title was confusing. I thought you met talking cars as in there are cars that can talk to you. But you were saying talking about cars. I get it now.
bought this a month ago. excellent car. hybrid-only means that dealerships cant jack up prices for the hybrid. The LE has nice fat tires giving you a nice comfy ride on pothole ridden american roads. Handles excellent (I have an EV too and those are heavy and fat). Excellent all around visibility. Toyota needs to change the name of the transmission from eCVT to something else. It does not have a belt to go bad! Its hardly a cvt. But toyota should do a better job muffling engine noise during acceleration.
My husband has a 2023 Camry ICE -- only because back then, the delivery time for the hybrid version was 8 months and his Honda Accord lease was up in 2. He loves it and will lease another Camry in 2026. With all of them hybrids now, there's no lag in getting one. Me on the other hand, did like the blandness of the Corolla Cross, so I lease a KIA Niro EV. Love my EV (would never get a Tesla) and in 2027, can turn it in for another EV (or hybrid), as who knows where we are with EV and hybrid batteries by then. Oh, and since we park inside our garage, I'll be getting a level 2 charge point charger installed next week in the garage.
It’s great to have freedom of choice! I’m glad you got what you need. I on the other hand have had a Tesla for 6 years now & will never buy an ICE Vehicle unless maybe a truck. MY Midrl 3has been low low maintenance, realizable & dependable. I have 102K miles on it. Original brakes. On my my Third set of tires with first set lasting 47K, 45the second set. I will need to change the wiper blades & will change the cabin air filters again for the third time. The 12 volt battery went out in 4 years & Tesla mobile came & replaced timely at home & cost me $114.00 out the door! My F150 & infinity I took in to service station & cost me minimum$139.00 plus extended warranty! Glad it wasn’t a BMW, Mercedes or Audi then those batteries cost $500 30:17 based on coworkers that have various German cars. I did have a rear lamp assembly I had to replace due to water getting into it. Was odd. But that’s it. I plan on keeping this cars until it no longer drives or I break down & buy a new EV. At least 6 persons from my department have bought a Tesla based on my results. Let’s see how the Chinese EV invasion of cars do against all these established vehicles.
@12:23 sure the 2.5 has a stellar reliability. But I think 3.4Turbo not helping Toyota reliability. From Turbo waste gate to main baring issues its going down the drain. I don't have much faith on 2.4Turbo either. Thank to EPA Toyota has fallen down to the same level as German & Euro cars. Look like now I don't have a reason to buy a Toyota. I would consider buying a German / Euro and use it for a short time.
Toyota is definitely on the right track. The idea of improving fuel economy by turbo charging 3 and 4 cylinder engines has proved problematic over the years which is why I'm surprised Toyota decided to replace their V8s with turbo charged v6s. I would like to see them go further with hybrid technology. I think that with the marked improvements in batteries there is no reason why we can't have hybrid engines that achieve 75mpg or better. Who better to further this technology than Toyota who has become the undisputed leader in this segment? I, for one, have always valued efficiency over performance. Both would be great, but given a choice I chose efficiency.
Gabe sounds like the dad from "ALF" lol... All cars except sports cars should be Hybrid these days... Its overdue, so good on Toyota to normalize it. Now they just need to pair it with a smaller, lighter fuel efficient turbo like a 1.5l.
Nice mature comment that really adds to the conversation. Let us know when you get your braces taken off and maybe have a few brain cells to come up with more intelligent comments
I live in Buffalo. I’ve always had sedans with the same type of clearance as a Camry, about 5 to 5.5 inches. Most SUVs have about 8 to 8.5 inches. If you think that three inches makes much difference on a snowy day, then you are in the SUVs stuck in my parking lot spinning all four tires while I easily cruise out in my front wheel drive sedan with WINTER tires. Don’t worry, I get out my emergency shovel, traction mats, and rock salt that I keep in my car to help all the SUV drivers that don’t buy Winter tires, and aren’t smart enough to carry these items in their stupid utility vehicle. I do get tired of people believing the car ads that show Stupid Utility Vehicles going through snow in these aggressive and reckless driving maneuvers. Proper winter tires… not the vehicle itself is the number one factor for winter driving.
That's what they usually say. However, in the case of Toyotas, they say the tech isn't always that new, just repackaged, so the first year is considered dependable.
@davidm5707 even Toyota has problems with first model year, But very little mechanical actually changes so we’ll still be more reliable than a lot of other brands. For me, it’s worth the risk to have the latest car m. If you want the most reliable wait a year.
@Seth whoever you are . This was the most vague non answer they gave you about a non Tesla level 2 home charger . I suggest looking up a channel called state of charge on RUclips . That helped me pick the right charger for my bmw. That is the type of information I look for when I’m researching the right charger for my car
Toyota quality is not good anymore, just look at all the recalls, and buy backs. If they built a reliable car the company wouldnt be over 200 billion in debt, more than any company in the world.
They definitely made these too low. Back 10 years ago or 20 it was 3 inches taller and the headroom was great front and back. And People want to sit higher too
I need to sit higher because I have a bad back. Im slim, 5'10 and test drove the SE. Headroom was fine, nothing noticeable. but I want the XSE with the panoramic. Based on what these guys are saying, It's clear I need to test drive the exact car with moonroof it before ordering. Camry drove great though. I drive crazy in my 2014 civic, and I can continue in a Camry.
Camry is a great vehicle so glad they haven’t screwed it up with a turbo
The car itself is fine, the issue with Toyota right now is the buying experience: Between chronic low inventory, dealer add-ons, market adjustments, and not being able to custom order, it’s a hard no for me.
Up until 2 mos ago, I had owned Camry’s since ‘04 (6 in total)- No more,
Toyota dealers (at least near me) absolutely suck
Toyota of Hemet. It's located in the California desert. Inland empire area. They sold me a 25 SE $2.454 under MSRP.
I got it less than a week ago.
They suck here in PA too. But due to the demand for toyota products it's take it or leave it we have 10 more buyers waiting for it.
I expected this too, but surprisingly they're selling for MSRP or even a little less around here. No stupid Pulse junk either. The inventory problem I see is they're almost all LE trim, seriously like 9 LEs for every one XLE or XSE when searching inventory.
Demand will get intense because the Accord looks like a Buick.
@6mtzhp55 my experience is the opposite. So many SE and XLE but barely any LE's. Prefer LE due to cloth seats in the PHX weather
I bought my first Camry, a 1998 in August of ‘97. It has 170K. One of these days I’ll have to buy a new one but with the outstanding dependability of this one, I’m in no hurry.
For me as long as Toyotas comes with a spare tire, I'll choose Toyota. Great episode!
Wholeheartedly agree.
Yes, but wouldn't it be great to drive the same two 10 years from now? Then after driving them, compare repair costs. It might change your mind.
Finally reviewing a car most of us can afford and isn’t an EV
Afford huh... This camry is wildly expensive. Once you factor in taxes and fees you push 35-40k barebones and 50k fully loaded
@GodleyXThere’s no Camry that’s 50k. Quit pulling numbers out of your ass.
Yes I just bought this car. Very happy.
@GodleyXnot anywhere close $45, that’s top spec. I just paid 37,750 after dealer negotiations. No it’s not inexpensive anymore but I wanted a loaded model. People want lots of tech and great mpg’s and that cost a lot of money. I get 50.3 mpg’s and spend $56/ month on gasoline. The Camry does everything well. My first Toyota and first hybrid, not bad. I had a budget of $145,000. I’m proud that I walked away from BMW M5 Competition sedan. No regrets but I’ll sell if I don’t like it in a year.
@buzman1985yea barely $44k for top spec.
I just bought the 2025 SE Camry. At 1st I was having buyer’s remorse because I wanted the V6 but this really grew on me! It goes just fine for my needs. Tickets really aren’t one of them & I live in moderate traffic areas so 236HP is fine
How tall is dude in the middle with the sunroof issues?
Was at Walmart today to buy oil to do the change on my Corolla Hybrid, and Mobil 1 0W-8 was there for the same price as the 0W-16 I bought for my car.
I just bought the 2025 LE with convenience package, I think its the best choice for the money, definitely the fastest, and the better mpg than the se or xse, I really don't care about sun roof at all, or all wheel drive, its much more quiet and comfortable due to the 16" tires.
Why on earth would you buy a Tesla over a Camry that gives you no problems, cheap to buy and run, and great resale, well built , and will run for 30 years.
Several reasons, my Tesla has instant torque, unmatched by any gas car or hybrid. Amazing performance, and gets over 130 MPGe. A lot of tech not available from other brands. Most people don't keep cars 30 years. I am planning on 6-8. CR just confirmed that Teslas are cheapest cars to maintain of any brand. I do respect Toyota going to an all hybrid line up with the new Camry. Fuel efficiency is very important.
Many car buyers don't make car purchasing decisions valuing any of those things.
would not say cheap anymore
And it probably won't spy on you and send everything that happens in and around the vehicle to Toyota HQ where compromising or embarrassing situations can be shared amongst employees. Tesla has been caught doing that.
It will last 30 years if one is willing to spend the money to keep fixing it and parts are available down the road.
Better engine, more power, better efficiency, way more tech features, better driving dynamics, quieter...
Its much better than accord
Better engine on what basis?? The V6 was good enough for Lotus to take it. Need to put your thoughts in perspective.
Accord has a much better stereo : )
Accord gas a way nicer interior in my opinion
Accord is more spacious .
105.7 Accord
100.4 Camry
Also the trunk is more spacious on the accord.
@benhaze1010 Better engine in respect to it's previous hybrid. V6 is just a different engine all together with a far worse mileage for more power and more loudness. Too different to weigh against each other fairly.
So Panoramic Roof makes the cabin noisy and less head room?
For me, the problem with doing oil changes myself is changing the filter is harder than the older cars. No spin-on filters
Just rented the new Camry LE for two days, just to see how it works. I managed 55miles per gallon, cruising at 65 miles per HOUR, on a 250 mile trip. Subsequently, I managed 51miles per gallon, cruising at 71 miles per HOUR on a 400 mile trip. The transition from ICE to EV power although I could see it on the screen animation, was pretty much imperceptible. Very impressed with gas mileage.
My only issue was the seats were not comfortable, and the steering was not as accurate or responsive as my 2020 Accord Hybrid, or the new 2024 models that I have rented as of late. Interior, just seemed made of cheaper materials.
But if my only choices were the Hybrid Camry or Hybrid Accord, I would lean towards the Accord, just because of its sportier handling.
For the first 4 years it will be wonderful.
Its the hybrid MPG range that is impressive even w/awd almost can double my XSE V6. While I don't agree with hybrids on the body on frame models it fits the unibodies. The Gov should be promoting hybrids as the next step before pure EV.
Please do a comparison between the Camry and the Honda Hybrid. I recently purchased a 2020 Honda Hybrid and I love it. But it does have a whinier powertrain. So I would like to see the two new leaders compared, before I decide to upgrade!
I bought the 2024 Camry Assent Sport (the middle model) as it’s called here in Australia. Could not be happier as I am getting just on 1000 kilometres (620 miles) to a tank.
At the end of my lease in a few months, I am turning in a 2022 RAV4 SE hybrid and will be leasing a 2025 Camry XSE AWD … pretty excited to go back to a Camry after owning an SUV for three years… The SUV is nice with the ground clearance however, I miss my Camry that I owned previously
3:35 the rear wheel part of the AWD system was always disconnected and separate from the front
By making it hybrid, only they mass produce the hybrid that drives down the price of getting a hybrid, so I like it
Hey CR, regarding the 0W8 Mobil1Snythetic oil, the oil can be easily found at Wal-Mart and some auto parts stores with the 0W8 rating. The price is along the same lines as other full synthetic oils, ranging from $25-$30 for a 5-Quart Container for Mobil1 Full-Synthetic 0W8 engine oil. I like Mobil-1 full synthetic engine oil. So, that is a good thing. Oil Filters are about the same as any other filter, depending on brand. I prefer either buying the oil-filter from Toyota or from O'Reilly using the WIX brand oil filter, which sets the filter standard bar quite high....again, with price being average compared to other name brand oil-filters.
I went to test drive a SE it had a couple of the packages stuck on. It was stickered at $33.542. No mark up, no dealer added nonsense. I told him I liked it well enough but thought it was too much. We kept at it and I finally agreed to $31.087. almost $2.500 discount. I'm not aware of Toyota's being discounted anywhere.
Are there any dealer installed accessories required to pay?
@waltchan No. Nothing. They literally sold me the car for a discount plus TT&l. (Hemet Toyota)
The reviews are very good
No reason to get a Prius now. Much more backseat headroom
Great episode. I'm glad to hear that the CR crew will be buying an Camry SE, as the take rate of the SE in the past generation, I believe, was actually greater than that of the LE. It feels like this is the right choice for your readers. I think the criticism of the gauge cluster on the X-trims is a bit picayune; you learn the menus pretty quickly, and its also basically the same digital cluster in most Toyotas. I guess nitpicking is good, though, bc it speaks to the execution of the vehicle overall.
Also, I loved the questions about the "sample defects." Would love to see that again.
Why isn’t there a hatchback canary?
Hatchbacks are much more versatile..
Very nice! So glad that the Camry kept the traditional gauge cluster instead of the adopting the Prius' design.
Nice Gabe’s back to work
I would be more interesting seeing about the new scout
No need to get a Prius now
The Prius gets more mpg, and if choosing a hybrid Camry that gets 5-10 more mpg than a non hybrid Camry. You can bet that a Prius that gets 10-15 more mpg will seem like a worthy purchase.
Not really bc if you want the size of the Corolla but want more power and style than the Corolla hybrid you get the Prius
If you are taller than 6’1” your choice in sedans is the Camry with no sunroof. The Corolla and Prius are too small and at 6’2” my head hits the roof in the Corolla.
@rncondieor an Accord
Yep. The Honda Civic Hybrid is my choice.
As a customer I like having the badging on the car if it is turbo and if it is hybrid 4 or 6 or 8 cyl and liters
I wish upper trims would give smaller wheel options. Pot holes in my area eat low profile tires.
I have also heard smaller diameter tires offer more mpg. No idea if that's true or just a rumor but something to consider.
Camry is king and it helps that the new Accord looks like a Malibu.
Discussing the seats are they not different between the two trims?
Great and informative video. I am a big fan of Toyota Camry cars.
The battery is under the rear seat. Any concern about this, as in a vent under there leaking fumes if there was a runaway battery or accident?
Just bought a new 2025 XLE, A great car I love it. What I don't like is the dash and electronics are a pain in the ass to learn. I went through hell trying to learn how to pair Alexa with this car.
It means that the Camry will start at $30,000 now at minimum, and that is just the base model not including taxes and registration fees. Continues the escalation of prices. The Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon were last I remember were rated "Not Acceptable" a long time ago. I remember the Audis with sudden acceleration got that same rating as well. Plus a Toyota SUV (the Lexus GX they mention) that flipped over on the track. I am sure the Chevy Blazer EV, if they did not give the "stop sale" order to fix the software CR may have put a Do not buy on that car until it was fixed - but GM acted before CR had to do that.
We’re getting 59 mpg mixed driving,2025 Camry xse!
So youre saying the honda accord lumbar support was too much and the camry was fine?
0:21 sorry to hear that, get well soon!
10:08 agreed. I rented one for a trip to DC and after 10 hours of driving I was really wanted a longer lower cushion.
which is odd because Lexus has some of the best seats I have ever been in.
I wish they kept a vs of the boring soft riding verison.
I really like this car!
I’m sure the quick oil change shops will use any cheap oil in the Camry. The customer will never know as long as the oil is brown. The business competes on price and doesn’t want to lose a customer. CR should test the shops.
Synthetic oil has been cheap for years. There is crazy markup at dealerships. But if you do the oil change yourself very little price difference. I think they are looking for things to talk about
I try to drive like grandma and follow the severe oil change schedule
Just buy your oil/filter....take it to oil-change place...
I have 18 Camry, I go Toyota dealer because 0w16
I used to bring my own oil to garages but now none of them will allow you to do this. The same goes for auto parts. They force you to use their generic brands. Its very sad and whether they know it or not, it costs them business.. I do my own oil changes now.
They need to bring back the 2GRFE. V6 real power is where it's at.
Thank you
All luxury automakers should have "gone hybrid" over a decade ago.
My 2018 Chevy Cruze gets 41 to 45 on the highway and its not a hybrid
The only thing that's preventing me from buying a Camry is the massive grill. Not the look for me.
Yay, Gabe's back!
8:01 agree , completely killed the sales
You DID like the blandness of the Corolla Cross?? 😮 Not me. Yuck.
Toyota's have been selling hybrids in Europe (almost) exclusively for a few years now. Yaris, Corolla, RAV4, their big sellers, Prius (of course) are all exclusively hybrids.
So they have had some experience on that front, and are confident about the reliability of their systems on a large scale. Which, granted, can be a scary proposition (eggs in one basket and so on).
As for their trucks, that's a different story. I wouldn't get a scaled up hybrid system for a work truck. Rather, a diesel, turbo-diesel even, or in the US, a V8.
Xle and xse all comes with pano roof
with CA gas tax going up to $2/gal these cars are going to be popular and be marked up.
Because of the high number of EV’s being sold in California, that state is raising the gas tax to make up for the loss of gasoline being sold. Several states are considering raising the yearly registration fees on EV’s to make up for the lost revenue from the gas taxes.
You can get the oil at Toyota for $50 a qt
Hey everyone
We test drove a 2025 Honda Accord hybrid the other day. Was not impressed with it in the least. I didn't like the interior vent look, the metal hatching effect. We went from the honda dealer to the toyota dealer and test drove a 2025 camry xse, also after looking at which car had a better resale value, which was the camry. Both were very comparable in price, maybe by $500 (camry being more, because it was xse). I've been a Lexus owner since 2013 (my first a 2013 GX460 next was a 2017 NX200T F-Sport.) I can say, this camry, which i ended up purchasing, is top-notch! I'm impressed! I thought I'd always be a Lexus owner, you know, once a Lexus owner, always a Lexus owner. But I'm a proud owner of a 2025 Toyota Camry XSE!
Why did you decide to get rid of the 2017? Just curious cause I just got a 2018 Lexus es350 and had a 2006 Lexus is250. Was it just time for something new?
Pick up my new XSE next week.
Are you getting it with Pano roof? I wouldn't mind it but I heard Pano rood makes the cabin more noisy. Do you know?
50mpg to the people!!
Probably get something else instead .Too many EMFs, and I dont want a lithium battery in or next to my home.
0 w 8 on shelf at Walmart today!
What is this, 2004? I've been using only synthetic oil since my first car in 2006. Who the heck is still putting dino juice in their engine?
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Newsflash ......Hybrids are in demand. I have a 2020 le hybrid.....Just ticked over 200k miles that's right 200k. 1 wheel bearing replacement outside of normal maintenance thus far. Just replaced the front brake pads the rear pads are at 50% still. Rotors are good.
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I have been an admirer of the Toyota hybrids forever! I think this was a good move by Toyota. For all you people that have never owned a Toyota Camry hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, Prius, Avalon hybrid, Corolla hybrid, they are great. You will love them as much as I do. Thanks Consumer Reports! You guys are incredible for speaking TRUTH! Keep it up.
Love my 2020 Avalon hybrid. Great comfortable car that gets great mileage. CR gave it a 93 rating.
I just bought the 2025 Camry. Very happy.
I think it’s smart to make hybrids just the regular offering. More car companies should do that and stop trying to make hybrids work when they clearly aren’t what most people want or can afford. Even if hybrids could go as far as gas cars or could charge in 5 minutes the infrastructure to charge them is still 10 years or more away.
How is making hybrids the regular offering smart? Once the hybrid batteries give up it's thousands to replace and then there's the hybrid braking system that if it fails will cost as much as replacing the whole hybrid batteries. I had a Prius that hit 160K miles with no issues but once the batteries and brake recharging systems failed, the cost to replace both was almost $10K. I traded it for a regular Camry, my Prius lasted 10 years trouble free but the little money I saved on gas was less than half of what it would cost to get my Prius running normal again, NOT worth it. Meanwhile my uncle still has his old 1999 Camry with over 360K miles which he uses to drive to work everyday, and he paid $10K back then because it was pre owned. Paying $10K for a car that's 25 years old and still running, sounds like a better investment than I got for my Prius.
40000$ for camry is too much money 💰
It’s been like that since 2018
So buy an LE. Its a great car and much less expensive than $40K.
Don’t buy the full loaded one
On the Taurus. Did the rounded style really kill it? I seem to recall seeing tons and tons of those on the road.
Yeah the style didn’t kill them. They were killed by the rising popularity of SUVs like many other sedans. Plus the later model of the Taurus got bigger outside but not inside, it became a less attractive vehicle.
Number 1 selling car for the 1996 and 97 years.
I trust these men’s opinions
It’s to noisy when driving . It sucks
Toyota Camry gets far better with the hybrid only.
It will increase its reliability and low TCO leadership, making it hard for the Honda Accord to come closer to this segment's leader.
I’ve owned both. The Camry is cheaper and more reliable. The accord is very reliable. The accord is way more fun to drive and more fun to work on yourself. If you just want an appliance buy the Camry. I prefer the accord.
I’ve been driving a Prius since 2006. Hybrids are awesome.
What's with the scratchy voices?
0W-8 Mobil One showing 27.97 for 5 quarts at Walmart for me. Not too hard to find. When I first bought my 2021 Corolla the 0W-16 cost a lot more at the time and not a lot of options.
I saw it walmart when I bought my ow16 fir my camry
AMSOIL INC. has been sellin 0W-8 100 PERCENT SYNTHETIC oil for several years now, and they just made available the 0W-8 Viscosity oil.
Yes! A proper talking cars episode!!! Thanks you all for your work on this!
The title was confusing. I thought you met talking cars as in there are cars that can talk to you. But you were saying talking about cars. I get it now.
Well my last 3 cars did/do talk to me, but they are not very good conversationalist.
Long time Toyota and Lexus owner. The dealer exploitation of limited supply has me looking elsewhere.
Do a shot every time Gabe says “ahhh” or “errrrr” and you will be dead from cirrhosis of the liver before the video is over. 😂😂
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So what? This is an informal chat not a polished presentation.
Really a great episode! Good job guys. One of the best in the business
The new variants are going around jow many jabs have you had its gonna get ugly 😢
I’ve owned 2 Prius’s and may get a Camry I am very comfortable with Toyota and hybrid. I don’t like the new Prius..
bought this a month ago. excellent car. hybrid-only means that dealerships cant jack up prices for the hybrid. The LE has nice fat tires giving you a nice comfy ride on pothole ridden american roads. Handles excellent (I have an EV too and those are heavy and fat). Excellent all around visibility. Toyota needs to change the name of the transmission from eCVT to something else. It does not have a belt to go bad! Its hardly a cvt. But toyota should do a better job muffling engine noise during acceleration.
My husband has a 2023 Camry ICE -- only because back then, the delivery time for the hybrid version was 8 months and his Honda Accord lease was up in 2. He loves it and will lease another Camry in 2026. With all of them hybrids now, there's no lag in getting one. Me on the other hand, did like the blandness of the Corolla Cross, so I lease a KIA Niro EV. Love my EV (would never get a Tesla) and in 2027, can turn it in for another EV (or hybrid), as who knows where we are with EV and hybrid batteries by then. Oh, and since we park inside our garage, I'll be getting a level 2 charge point charger installed next week in the garage.
It’s great to have freedom of choice! I’m glad you got what you need. I on the other hand have had a Tesla for 6 years now & will never buy an ICE Vehicle unless maybe a truck. MY Midrl 3has been low low maintenance, realizable & dependable. I have 102K miles on it. Original brakes. On my my Third set of tires with first set lasting 47K, 45the second set. I will need to change the wiper blades & will change the cabin air filters again for the third time. The 12 volt battery went out in 4 years & Tesla mobile came & replaced timely at home & cost me $114.00 out the door! My F150 & infinity I took in to service station & cost me minimum$139.00 plus extended warranty! Glad it wasn’t a BMW, Mercedes or Audi then those batteries cost $500 30:17 based on coworkers that have various German cars. I did have a rear lamp assembly I had to replace due to water getting into it. Was odd. But that’s it. I plan on keeping this cars until it no longer drives or I break down & buy a new EV. At least 6 persons from my department have bought a Tesla based on my results. Let’s see how the Chinese EV invasion of cars do against all these established vehicles.
It’s too bad that Toyota still seems insistent upon forcing gaudy gloss-black plastic on everyone.
NOTE: I’m an owner of a much older model Camry XLE
@12:23 sure the 2.5 has a stellar reliability. But I think 3.4Turbo not helping Toyota reliability. From Turbo waste gate to main baring issues its going down the drain. I don't have much faith on 2.4Turbo either. Thank to EPA Toyota has fallen down to the same level as German & Euro cars. Look like now I don't have a reason to buy a Toyota. I would consider buying a German / Euro and use it for a short time.
Toyota is definitely on the right track. The idea of improving fuel economy by turbo charging 3 and 4 cylinder engines has proved problematic over the years which is why I'm surprised Toyota decided to replace their V8s with turbo charged v6s. I would like to see them go further with hybrid technology. I think that with the marked improvements in batteries there is no reason why we can't have hybrid engines that achieve 75mpg or better. Who better to further this technology than Toyota who has become the undisputed leader in this segment? I, for one, have always valued efficiency over performance. Both would be great, but given a choice I chose efficiency.
I have a 25 camry. Picked it up with 3 miles and now has almost 1.1k. I am using shell v power 93 oct fuel. Im getting 50-55mpg.
You’re wasting your money is you’re use 93 octane. There is zero benefit when a car is tuned for 87. Save your money.
I just purchased one. Wow I’m going to try that.
Gabe sounds like the dad from "ALF" lol... All cars except sports cars should be Hybrid these days... Its overdue, so good on Toyota to normalize it. Now they just need to pair it with a smaller, lighter fuel efficient turbo like a 1.5l.
He’s either drunk or high. Also he is totally past his prime and should retire.
Nice mature comment that really adds to the conversation. Let us know when you get your braces taken off and maybe have a few brain cells to come up with more intelligent comments
Too bad the Camry is so low.. It’s scrape the ground when it snows 😒
I've already scraped the underside of my front bumper.
I live in Buffalo. I’ve always had sedans with the same type of clearance as a Camry, about 5 to 5.5 inches. Most SUVs have about 8 to 8.5 inches. If you think that three inches makes much difference on a snowy day, then you are in the SUVs stuck in my parking lot spinning all four tires while I easily cruise out in my front wheel drive sedan with WINTER tires. Don’t worry, I get out my emergency shovel, traction mats, and rock salt that I keep in my car to help all the SUV drivers that don’t buy Winter tires, and aren’t smart enough to carry these items in their stupid utility vehicle. I do get tired of people believing the car ads that show Stupid Utility Vehicles going through snow in these aggressive and reckless driving maneuvers. Proper winter tires… not the vehicle itself is the number one factor for winter driving.
No V6, no thanx.
So I wonder if the 2025 Camry is a safe bet, or wait til '26?
That's what they usually say. However, in the case of Toyotas, they say the tech isn't always that new, just repackaged, so the first year is considered dependable.
25 is the same as the 24 .
slightly different sheet metal
@davidm5707 even Toyota has problems with first model year, But very little mechanical actually changes so we’ll still be more reliable than a lot of other brands. For me, it’s worth the risk to have the latest car m. If you want the most reliable wait a year.
@davidm5707 I SAY WAIT! Rav4 had problems initially & Crown's first reliability wasn't great.
@Seth whoever you are . This was the most vague non answer they gave you about a non Tesla level 2 home charger . I suggest looking up a channel called state of charge on RUclips . That helped me pick the right charger for my bmw. That is the type of information I look for when I’m researching the right charger for my car
No they are forcing hybrid's down everybody's throat since the electric car failure 😂. Twice the complex
Toyota quality is not good anymore, just look at all the recalls, and buy backs. If they built a reliable car the company wouldnt be over 200 billion in debt, more than any company in the world.
They definitely made these too low. Back 10 years ago or 20 it was 3 inches taller and the headroom was great front and back. And People want to sit higher too
They figure if you want to sit higher you’ll get a Crown or a RAV4 etc. The new Prius is even lower.
I need to sit higher because I have a bad back. Im slim, 5'10 and test drove the SE. Headroom was fine, nothing noticeable. but I want the XSE with the panoramic. Based on what these guys are saying, It's clear I need to test drive the exact car with moonroof it before ordering. Camry drove great though. I drive crazy in my 2014 civic, and I can continue in a Camry.
Absolutely, the Crown would be an alternative, but with no heads up display, I'm not pay 50K. Best deal was the Venza.
Well I'm a 69-year-old man and I will not buy a hybrid I was going to buy a Toyota but now it's just gas and not gasoline I'm out
A used Tesla is a much better deal than a new Toyota.