Never fails this guy is in the group in front of me. Sends one 200yds straight right into a canyon, spends 10 minutes trying to save $4.00 and a stroke. Eventually drops in the fairway, skulls another 30yds ahead.
$2.00 balls and a 1 minute search limit are my keys to being a high handicapper myself :D illegal drops are also key, 75% chance you'll just lose another provisional anyways. I don't drop in the fairway though, that's not realistic practice :D
i thought during these professional events that they always have so many officials and fans that it's almost impossible to lose a ball. There should be so many people around to spot every angle of the shot.
Maybe a shout of "fore right" might have had what few people that were there spot it? Can't abide these jumped up, pampered pro's, not aimed solely at Poulter. Manicured fairways, superbly raked bunkers, consistently paced greens, they get it easy. Try a shit course in the Sunday medal during November. That's real golf.
@@weenus5819 maybe I should have said January. Any course in January. Wormcasts, waterlogged bunkers, they'd be grizzling and crying "mud ball" all the way round. They are pampered, yet still moan like mad.
Judging by the comments most people don't know the rules. Of course you should still look for the ball in this hazard because if you find it there is option to play without penalty OR take a drop.
No way they could be 'virtually certain' where the ball was lost, evidenced by the fact they then found it outside the hazard. Should've been going back to the tee imo but kick up a bit of a fuss and sometimes you get your own way.
WTF?... I'm so confused. If the ruling was that Poulter had to play it as a lost ball, and re-tee, why would the rule official allow Poulter to play it as a hazard?... You can't bed the rules because a player throws a hissy fit.
Number 26, Ian Poulter, 2 minutes for whining! C'mon buttercup. The ref isn't changing his mind. Oh, and he's right. They usually are. So take your stroke and distance and don't pound it 30 yards right!
@@James-mh6fn Wrong. If you watched the whole video you would have seen that the ball was found outside the hazard after the 5 mins. It was common sense that the ball could have been lost outside the hazard. Which, in fact, it was. The weak ref allowed himself to be bullied into a very bad ruling.
@@greggh well, maybe my generation, aka people under 60 who can get around a course in under 5 hours, without pissing around with anal attention to detail of the over complicated rule book, just think that the player should be allowed the discretion every now and again to over rule the official and get on with the round and stop holding everyone else up even more
Lost ball outside the hazard and gets to drop because the ref. Give in madness.. if he was fair after known it wasn't in the hazard.. should of gone back to the tee.. bad sportsmanship
grgoldner it landed near the red stake where poulter was dropping but was found 50 yards further up towards green, the camera didn't pick up where it finished
That's what they did. They were searching where they thought the ball landed. Seems the ball hit something on the way down and landed in a different area.
Didn’t realize that on tour they would also assist their playing partner with looking for their ball. I would think that would distract one from their own shot
Brian Cleminson I'm guessing it would be the club rules, specific to the club. Members were probably fed up landing in there and having to hit it out so making it a water hazard means they get to drop it with one penalty stroke.
I feel like most people commenting dont plat golf that often. The stress of looking for a lost golf ball especially under these circumstances is crazy. Im really not a poulter fan, but give the man a break, he had a dozen guys looking for it and it was lost. Just play golf and relax. Ian poulter finished tied for 22nd in this tournament
come on on "Oslo" All i said was people commenting on how bad and irresponsible Poulter was are bring single minded. YES! follow all the rules of golf but take a chill pill and enjoy the sport. I promise that the inventors would have wanted it that way.
U can't promise anything in knowing what the inventors born the 1700s might have thought. And they were more big on rules and honor back then wouldn't u say? And 22nd place is pretty good to do it straight up. But maybe some of the ppl he beat didnt have as much money as the guy that owns 10 Ferraris. May Be he beat out a guy for 22 who was struggling on tour. No defense for it man.
I hate trying to find mine at a crowded public course. I normally just do a quick search (30 to 45 seconds) then if I come up empty, I just drop and continue play
It's a lost ball if you don't know its in the hazard. Lost ball is "stroke and distance", i.e. you have to go back to the tee (or where you hit from) and hit 3. If you know its in the hazard you can take a drop (within 2 club lengths) where it crossed the hazard with a 1 stroke penalty.
Could Jordan have said he “saw” the b-ball just to help him out with a normal penalty? or would that be considered cheating? I would kinda fall it good sportsmanship. I hated how he started to insist on not taking stroke and distance... once they make a ruling you gotta say okay
@@agatineau5603 how did you not see the flight of the ball going into the Hazard you're making out that the ref was right is there something wrong with your mental health even act the end of the video it shows or the flight of the ball and actually where the ball landed
These are the kinds of stupid rules that golf has to get rid of. If your playing partner agrees with you that the ball crossed the hazard before being lost, then just move on with it and drop a ball. No need to actually find the damn ball. That's the whole deal with it being lost.
First of all, poulter was on the Tee box when the ball landed almost 300yards? So how the fuck is he going to pin point his ball? I have an absolute Eagle Eye on the course and over 250 yards you lose a little lazer focus. Not much but yes a little. He was not 100% certain . and he played a fade.
yes dude people don't believe trees can catch golf balls but it's happened to me at least 4 or 5 times. like sometimes a branch will catch it without making a sound. I once used a blue ball for a month hit a tree and it was stuck in the lower middle branch like the shape of a slingshot stick....
Basically the rule is written so vaguely that the rules guy was like “uhhh yea whatever” - and they still found it lmao.. either way, Poulter is a tool
Virtually certain and 100% sure are two totally different things. When the two players both 'think' the ball is in the hazard, that is 'virtually certain'. Hit it in the middle of a pond, see the splash... 100% sure. There's a small creek in front of a par 3 on my course, can't quite see it all because of the lay of the land. When no rain, your ball is easily found in it. Heavy rain and it runs fast and carries balls away. So because i can't find my ball you think i should be going back to the tee? Some people need to read the rule book.
This is where the ethics of the person come into the rules of the game. The rule is that you have to be "virtually certain" the ball went in the hazard. If Poulter was virtually certain the ball was in the hazard, why did he spend all that time looking for it, when he just could have dropped another one where it entered the hazard. (He was virtually certain it entered it). This rule is designed so you cant just assume the ball went into the hazard, even if you cant find it. He should know better. I would say this is pretty close to cheating.
Why? First you want to be certain. So you go look for it. It's only when you can't find it but you're virtually certain it has gone into the hazard then you can drop a new ball. certain > virtually certain
He sliced it right. Red stakes all the way on the right. They didn't find it in the right rough outside the hazard. That's a good enough case for me to assume it went into the hazard. He was unlucky the marshall didn't find the ball even though he heard it plonk down standing so close to it. He even looked into the direction 7:22 . There should've been no penalty stroke.
CRY BABY...rule is not hard to understand. Its not 'did the ball PROBABLY" go there. Im surprised he never ran across this circumstance Unless hes just being a little British drama queen😁
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It’s 2 am, I’m tripping balls, and I’ve been watching PGA tour videos for an undetermined amount of time
This clip is a good representation of my golf career.
My walk in the woods the other day was a lot more enjoyable.
😭😭😭😭😭😂😂
0:40 guy in shorts, looking for the t-shot, checks his own butt before checking the woods.
Rusty Underwood And then he smelled his fingers! 😂😂😂
@Brady Hartsfield crazy how eyes work when you're using them correctly.
@Brady Hartsfield my bad I misunderstood your response.
Rusty Underwood well you never know, might be there. 💀💀💀
He licked his finger.
Never fails this guy is in the group in front of me. Sends one 200yds straight right into a canyon, spends 10 minutes trying to save $4.00 and a stroke. Eventually drops in the fairway, skulls another 30yds ahead.
$2.00 balls and a 1 minute search limit are my keys to being a high handicapper myself :D illegal drops are also key, 75% chance you'll just lose another provisional anyways. I don't drop in the fairway though, that's not realistic practice :D
@@truecrimejungle foot wedge is the best club in my bag.
It would've been nice for the replay to have happened well before the time was up
They might not be able to
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i thought during these professional events that they always have so many officials and fans that it's almost impossible to lose a ball. There should be so many people around to spot every angle of the shot.
Maybe a shout of "fore right" might have had what few people that were there spot it? Can't abide these jumped up, pampered pro's, not aimed solely at Poulter. Manicured fairways, superbly raked bunkers, consistently paced greens, they get it easy. Try a shit course in the Sunday medal during November. That's real golf.
@@Smufter69 they would shoot 62 consistently at the local muni youre talking about bud
@@weenus5819 who mentioned "muni's"?????
@@Smufter69 "a shit couse in november"=muni
@@weenus5819 maybe I should have said January. Any course in January. Wormcasts, waterlogged bunkers, they'd be grizzling and crying "mud ball" all the way round. They are pampered, yet still moan like mad.
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IAN POULTER'S BALL JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Judging by the comments most people don't know the rules. Of course you should still look for the ball in this hazard because if you find it there is option to play without penalty OR take a drop.
No way they could be 'virtually certain' where the ball was lost, evidenced by the fact they then found it outside the hazard. Should've been going back to the tee imo but kick up a bit of a fuss and sometimes you get your own way.
WTF?... I'm so confused. If the ruling was that Poulter had to play it as a lost ball, and re-tee, why would the rule official allow Poulter to play it as a hazard?... You can't bed the rules because a player throws a hissy fit.
I agree with the ruling
Number 26, Ian Poulter, 2 minutes for whining! C'mon buttercup. The ref isn't changing his mind. Oh, and he's right. They usually are. So take your stroke and distance and don't pound it 30 yards right!
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5:42 I would have fucking died
The official does NOT have the option to make a judgment call. The rules are the rules.
You should be able to change the ruling if you haven't hit yet
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@@joycecham2804 he was fine a year ago.
when does the 5 minute start?
Q: When does the 5 minutes start?
A: 5 minutes ago.
@@tntkop in 5 minutes
3 years ago
I don't get it ?? Didn't they find his ball at the end and why couldn't he play it ??
Why wouldn't you review the tape and help him
Referee is right, you can't be 100% sure that the ball is in the hazard as no one saw it enter the hazard. So it's a lost ball.
however the rules official changing his mind is outrageous
@@jeffreydemeulemeester1951 No mate, this is a rare case (In golf rulings) where common sense prevailed
@@James-mh6fn Wrong. If you watched the whole video you would have seen that the ball was found outside the hazard after the 5 mins. It was common sense that the ball could have been lost outside the hazard. Which, in fact, it was. The weak ref allowed himself to be bullied into a very bad ruling.
@@greggh well, maybe my generation, aka people under 60 who can get around a course in under 5 hours, without pissing around with anal attention to detail of the over complicated rule book, just think that the player should be allowed the discretion every now and again to over rule the official and get on with the round and stop holding everyone else up even more
I agreed with Ian bc I think you can conclude that it is in the hazard
Lost ball outside the hazard and gets to drop because the ref. Give in madness.. if he was fair after known it wasn't in the hazard.. should of gone back to the tee.. bad sportsmanship
Why not use the TV camera angle at 7:23 to find the ball? The golf course got tied up because it took 12 minutes to figure this thing out.
grgoldner it landed near the red stake where poulter was dropping but was found 50 yards further up towards green, the camera didn't pick up where it finished
That's what they did. They were searching where they thought the ball landed. Seems the ball hit something on the way down and landed in a different area.
That would DEFINITELY put me on golfer's tilt. My found ball being declared lost. What if it had been inbounds? OMG RAGE!
It was in bounds, even more frustrating lol
you can see ball in middle of screen at 1:45
No way! 7:02 shows it was buried under straw.
Yeah we’re kidding you Ian, here it is
Would have Been absolutely classic plot twist if that had been it in that chair drinks holder, I was willing it to be the ball!
Didn’t realize that on tour they would also assist their playing partner with looking for their ball. I would think that would distract one from their own shot
Same
They don’t often have to look for balls on tour haha
Why is that area marked as a lateral water hazard anyway?
Brian Cleminson I'm guessing it would be the club rules, specific to the club. Members were probably fed up landing in there and having to hit it out so making it a water hazard means they get to drop it with one penalty stroke.
Brian Cleminson hi how are you
Joyce Cham here we go again.
It will be in there somewhere....right next to my shot no doubt.
fastasfox hello
Is that Ernie Johnson?
Yes.
Welcome to my world lol
brilliantly ironic that the rules official looks like Boss Hogg from the Dukes Of Hazzard... :-)
In this episode of Pro Golfers Like Us...
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Joyce Cham I will call the authorities.
I feel like most people commenting dont plat golf that often. The stress of looking for a lost golf ball especially under these circumstances is crazy. Im really not a poulter fan, but give the man a break, he had a dozen guys looking for it and it was lost. Just play golf and relax. Ian poulter finished tied for 22nd in this tournament
Read my comment again. Point out any word or phrase that insinuated I suggested breaking the rules.
come on on "Oslo" All i said was people commenting on how bad and irresponsible Poulter was are bring single minded. YES! follow all the rules of golf but take a chill pill and enjoy the sport. I promise that the inventors would have wanted it that way.
U can't promise anything in knowing what the inventors born the 1700s might have thought. And they were more big on rules and honor back then wouldn't u say? And 22nd place is pretty good to do it straight up. But maybe some of the ppl he beat didnt have as much money as the guy that owns 10 Ferraris. May Be he beat out a guy for 22 who was struggling on tour. No defense for it man.
I hate trying to find mine at a crowded public course. I normally just do a quick search (30 to 45 seconds) then if I come up empty, I just drop and continue play
Ernie Johnson does everything
can someone clarify why not hitting it in the hazard is worse than hitting it in?
It's a lost ball if you don't know its in the hazard. Lost ball is "stroke and distance", i.e. you have to go back to the tee (or where you hit from) and hit 3. If you know its in the hazard you can take a drop (within 2 club lengths) where it crossed the hazard with a 1 stroke penalty.
I have trolled the woods many times for my ball, lol.
*trawled
The ball in the woods 👁 _ 👁
Perfect example of why refs should not be brow beaten into making decisions. The rules are the rules. end of!
Thats interesting he barely bends his knees on his tee shot he looks like hes just standing upright
Yup. Very straight setup
Ian was right, his ball virtually certainly went in the hazard
Hence the 3 minute rule for pros.
Imagine if it was the ball in the cup holder
did he play a provisional straight away
probably
Anthony Kernich no
Anthony Kernich hey there how are you
Joyce Cham enough.
AT 3:43 YOU SEE THE BALL IN THE BACKROUND AGAINST A TREE
What tree
lol they love manipulating the rules
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@@joycecham2804 hey girl. Can I call you?
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+3 or give up!!
I was watching this Tournament! It hit those boulders and ricocheted into the next county!
Its in the 🌳
Ball at 1:45. He purposely didn't find it.
Nytron where?
no ball anywhere there
Nytron lol I hope this is a joke
So funny how pissy these guys get when they’re the ones that hit a fucked up shot, don’t get mad at the ref, you fucked up
1:59 white hat guy steps on it ???
It’d be unlike poulter to have a sook and blame someone else for his fuckup
Gteat effing camera work!
Good 👍🏻👍🏻 bye bye IOn polter
Wow he got lucky with that. Should be lost ball after 5
Could Jordan have said he “saw” the b-ball just to help him out with a normal penalty? or would that be considered cheating? I would kinda fall it good sportsmanship. I hated how he started to insist on not taking stroke and distance... once they make a ruling you gotta say okay
Omg this turned into a comedy but when they found it
It is obvious the ref tried to do Poulter in this situation
brian hutchinson Except he was right
@@agatineau5603 how did you not see the flight of the ball going into the Hazard you're making out that the ref was right is there something wrong with your mental health even act the end of the video it shows or the flight of the ball and actually where the ball landed
Watch the whole vid when they find the ball outside the hazard genius.
brian hutchinson hi how are you
@@joycecham2804 I'm fine thanks very much for asking
Who else thinks someone should get paid to just watch for golf balls that go out?
These are the kinds of stupid rules that golf has to get rid of. If your playing partner agrees with you that the ball crossed the hazard before being lost, then just move on with it and drop a ball. No need to actually find the damn ball. That's the whole deal with it being lost.
Lucas Carman hey there , how are you
Of course there is a need to find the ball. Then you can play it with no penalty
First of all, poulter was on the Tee box when the ball landed almost 300yards? So how the fuck is he going to pin point his ball? I have an absolute Eagle Eye on the course and over 250 yards you lose a little lazer focus. Not much but yes a little. He was not 100% certain . and he played a fade.
Yeah Ian I’m kidding. Just drop a ball wherever and hit
No 5 min search rule on the PGA Tour?
He said they had started the clock more than once did you watch the video?
Its stuck in the tree
yes dude people don't believe trees can catch golf balls but it's happened to me at least 4 or 5 times. like sometimes a branch will catch it without making a sound. I once used a blue ball for a month hit a tree and it was stuck in the lower middle branch like the shape of a slingshot stick....
might have been stuck on a tree
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Basically the rule is written so vaguely that the rules guy was like “uhhh yea whatever” - and they still found it lmao.. either way, Poulter is a tool
Ahhhhhh Golf, the game where you spend 2% of your time on the course playing, and the other 98% looking for your ball
they found the ball not in the hazard?? embarrassing for Poulter then
Why? It has crossed the hazard.
The ball was in the Hazard
Such a dumb ruling, it just doesn’t make sense, should have just been able to hit his ball, some rules just have no common sense.
idky but i feel like poulter may have cheated there
Tough life of a golf referee. Oh well, golf must continue.
PGA rule 2345: who gives a shit.
Don't know why he put it in there if he's supposed to be a pro
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Lol his bad
Virtually certain and 100% sure are two totally different things. When the two players both 'think' the ball is in the hazard, that is 'virtually certain'. Hit it in the middle of a pond, see the splash... 100% sure.
There's a small creek in front of a par 3 on my course, can't quite see it all because of the lay of the land. When no rain, your ball is easily found in it. Heavy rain and it runs fast and carries balls away. So because i can't find my ball you think i should be going back to the tee?
Some people need to read the rule book.
Exactly this, well said.
Maybe a bird or raccoon or something took it. Golf balls look like eggs to them
That’s a terrible rule
Full-blown baby with a lost ball
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This is cheating
You can’t cheat when you are proceeding with the blessing of an official.
This is where the ethics of the person come into the rules of the game. The rule is that you have to be "virtually certain" the ball went in the hazard. If Poulter was virtually certain the ball was in the hazard, why did he spend all that time looking for it, when he just could have dropped another one where it entered the hazard. (He was virtually certain it entered it). This rule is designed so you cant just assume the ball went into the hazard, even if you cant find it. He should know better. I would say this is pretty close to cheating.
Why? First you want to be certain. So you go look for it.
It's only when you can't find it but you're virtually certain it has gone into the hazard then you can drop a new ball.
certain > virtually certain
He's looking for it, because if he finds it he can hit the ball from the hazard without penalty dumb ass
Just looking at tournament stats for Poulter. Strokes gained off tee 1.26 Strokes gained Putting 1.75 Strokes gained Cheating 1.00
Kevin Lu l Storm Chasing ohhh you mean the hazard that he was virtually certain it entered until a spectator found it not in the hazard.
He sliced it right. Red stakes all the way on the right. They didn't find it in the right rough outside the hazard. That's a good enough case for me to assume it went into the hazard.
He was unlucky the marshall didn't find the ball even though he heard it plonk down standing so close to it. He even looked into the direction 7:22 . There should've been no penalty stroke.
Couldn’t have happened to a more terrible person.
CRY BABY...rule is not hard to understand. Its not 'did the ball PROBABLY" go there. Im surprised he never ran across this circumstance
Unless hes just being a little British drama queen😁
I'm not OK with Ian arguing with the rules official. That was classless.
Ever notice how alot of golfers have rich sounding names? Poultry, pampling? All sound snobbish. Alot of golfers have those silver spoonfed names lol
Poulter is a french surname for someone who raised chickens. Hardly a noble-mans name