Across the MMO there is not a single class that I disrespect more than Willbender. I immediately assume there is something wrong with you if you play it.
@@sospokemika1197 Have you considered that guardian is one of the most played classes, and that willbender is just fun to play? (I'm a Rev main don't kill me)
@@homage3 Yes, willbender is fun to play, but its literally ruining the game. One of maybe 2 specs that are problematic in GW2 Rev is awesome, because you actually have to think when you play it.
I really enjoy your video format and style, and I hope your channel continues to grow. Merry Christmas! As a new player I chose guardian to learn first and because I like glass cannon style play I chose Willbender. I die a lot in unranked PvP, and I appreciate the tips you provided in this video. I actually stopped using judges intervention, but I will be adding it back to my build.
@@matthewmcguigan4293 Thank you very much and Merry Christmas to you too! I think you have to leverage the healing that is given by the spear in order to survive tougher fights. Familiarize yourself with what skills heal you and try to use them when needed! If you ever have questions or wanna play together hit me up any time my contact info is in the description
I looked for where you responded for like 20m and couldn't find it so I'm gonna put this here: Re, Stormsinger being broken af "rn," aka. for like ~4 months: This is another reason that I lament ArenaNet's slow balance cadence. Both Rivers and Stormsinger released with JW, and as with many of the on-Release Spears they clearly were "a step above" the other PvP tools available. But Stormsinger was bugged and didn't work correctly. However, by basically the same time, that Stormsinger was fixed, Rivers and much of the Spears (even Guardian's a bit) got nerfed. That left Stormsinger with 0 tools to effectively compete with or counter it outside of a Tournament meta. And it just so happens to synergize with one class that also happens to have very few counters perfectly. As we discussed I have my own ideas on what on Willbender is "overperforming right now" if anything, but I lament that we couldn't have seen the immovable staff/spear Spellbreakers from 2 seasons ago go up against the unstoppable force that is current Stormbender. I'm not saying Spellbreaker shouldn't have been nerfed, it was mad overperforming and I'm glad they *finally* started nerfing Spellbreaker specifically rather than only Warrior in general trying to hit Spellbreaker. But something is usually "oppressive" when there is either nothing to compete with or counter it. And I think that's what we're seeing reflected by the sentiment of the community right now. 😂
@@homage3 Probably. I personally don't use it on my WB, there's so much about the class that is already uber punishing, I refuse to add that to it. Im a WB main for sure, and the class already has so much going for, JI just makes it so overkill in my eyes and I can't use it and feel like Im being even close to fair. As if I was anyway.
I was going to congratulate you on 3k until I seen Willbender gameplay 🤮dsigustinggg!!! (jk ily congrats on 3k you deserve it! keep up the great work(gross willbender))
OMG... Now WBs are going to be a bigger PITA... Thanks Homage. But seriously, I learned a couple things for my WB. I wish they'd quit nerfing thief so much.
@@ssh17hx0r I actually think one of the best ways to beat something is to learn how it plays. More information about willbender helps both the willbender players and willbender haters IMO. I do hope thief and power Rev see a little love in PVP soon. The roamer slot is so dominated by WB right now it's not even close
I love willbender, I say as a pve player that doesn't play pvp or wvw, it's quite fun in raids if you can tolerate forced movement, my heart tells me power is better but I won't lie because condi willbender is easier and more affective, there's plenty of fights where on condi willbender you can realistically out dps condi virtuoso, it has a 4k higher benchmark dps which is significant enough to give you an advantage in real fights
mann i thought it was someone else when i went up againts homage z, cus i thought homage is a rev player so theres no way thats him on willbender now i can connfirm it was youu so cool
This is the best Christmas gift. A guide to my favorite fair and balanced class. Thank you Santa Homage! Well made vid. On behalf of all chilly Willy's this holiday season, Merry Christmas
Aw man I didnt know willbender was hated so much, I even went full in, lvl 80 boost and wizard vault ascendeds everything, are willbender still hated as much if its PVE
Honestly man please don't let other people's perception ruin your fun! The reason willbender is hated by some people is because it's popular and strong. And it's popular because it's one of the most fun builds in the game!!! So just enjoy the fun build and don't listen to anyone who wants to ruin it for you. Also, for PVE - WB is very strong and nobody will be mad at you for playing it.
To be fair, I think at the high levels most top players know how to deal with it. The vast majority of the player base however, really struggles with it. So mid/low level its king. I don't think the game should be balanced around the top 5% but rather the majority of the player base (at least this I feel is where the argument will be most). Either way WB does a lot of good things and needs to be tuned down.
@@homage3 I tried it... if i use Spear 5 then hit judges F1 it's not instant. It leave the symbol behind, does not do the knock back. and then I do the run-port after the symbol is left behind... Is it maybe just a PVP thing?
@@homage3 Okay now i understand. So much happens so fast I missed I was thinking F1 was judges intervention. do you know how far back the knock back pushes the person away and is that the reason for the F1 after judges intervention?
@homage3 My own build using Valkyrie+Ranger rune (for more precision to compensate)I get 20k HP with the power trait one and still has 83 crit chance (Fury +Resolution)still has the same damage.
@OatyOnline 100%. Love it or hate it, WB is objectively fun to play. I would like to see the spear toned down a touch and some changes to stormsinger though.
@@homage3 I will say as primarily a pve player its so exhausting when people try to talk down to me as a wb player because they have anti-wb bias from PvP/wvw. Like I'll happily bully them in those modes too but when I make my reddit posts about the state of wb or whatever that I like to do after major patches it gets so exhausting trying to talk people off the proverbial ledge when they read the word willbender before they process that I said PvE
@@ObsoletePixel Dude! Now that you mention it I recognize your username and I've read a bunch of your posts on reddit. Very well written. I honestly think anet cooked so hard with willbender and made a very fun spec to play. Which makes it very popular. And people love to hate on popular things. Don't get me wrong willbender is strong, but I think it gets blown way out of proportion. Vindi in its prime was waaaaay stronger than WB in its prime. But vindi didn't get nearly the same hate. Just because it was less popular (IMO)
@@homage3 thank you! I'm mostly known for my pve wb but I'm a competent PvP player -- I grazed top 250 a while back but never really put my nose to the grindstone. I just love the spec and enjoy it in new contexts People hate wb because it just Kills you. Its flaw is that outside of killing and movement to find and enable that killing its kind of one dimensional (and its tools for engaging and disengaging are one in the same), but people just remember the negative experience of dying and then make that their whole personality instead of learning the MU, and as someone from the fighting game community I've *never* understood that mentality. Wb is the fairest it's ever been but people made up their minds and don't think further than that and its sooooo tiring
Playing mesmer i have to choose between dmg and survival. willbenders have everything without any drawbacks. Thanks for remember me why i deleted this game.
Hahaha I would actually say mesmer is much more overpowered than guardian in PVP right now believe it or not. If you like I can send you a build that melts willbenders
@@Bking-wl9kn Guardian is both Anet's fav AND the GW2 community's fav. There are stats out there that show its the most popular class. I can definitely see why!
I hate guardian as a whole man. Not interested in a wb channel bro, i hate the spec so much id rather watch u play rev. Such an overtuned garbage spec i hate it
That's fair man. I think some changes are overdue too. Not planning on becoming a WB channel. Just wanted to do an updated video because my last video was out of date
@@homage3 its dumb man how they even gave mobility on sword 3. Then nkt give rev shield 5 some mobility it's ridiculous balance considering sword 3 isboth a very strong offensive and defensive skill.
i know you said you are new to wb but oof it hurt so much watching this lol, you gotta actually use sword in your fights, looks like u just camp spear most of the time. I don't think i'd run that rune or relic either, brawler scholar is my choice.
Valid. I definitely camp spear. Brawler scholar is the mathematically inferior combo though. Stormsinger hits for 1.5k to 2k every five seconds. In order to get 1.5k bonus damage from the brawler relic you would need to do 15k damage in a 5 second window. Possible, but not likely. You should upload some of your willbender gameplay and show me how it's done
@@homage3 sword 5 + JI into F1 into another damaging skill absolutely chunks, though spear 5 + JI into F1 is also valid as well. I think it's just that worse player are slower to cleanse immob (sword 5 also does slow as well) than to stun break. Some willbenders also are used to starting with sword/sword set from before when spear was released. Spear 5 + JI is super effective though, as you showed us in the video.
YOU W HERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THEM... NOT JOIN THEM!!
IM SO SORRY
I agree...dark side has taken homage. sad
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WILLBENDER HATE TILL I DIE
@@SantoSushiTTV don't hate the player
@@SantoSushiTTV 🙌🤣
I’m with you 🤘
Across the MMO there is not a single class that I disrespect more than Willbender.
I immediately assume there is something wrong with you if you play it.
@@sospokemika1197 Have you considered that guardian is one of the most played classes, and that willbender is just fun to play?
(I'm a Rev main don't kill me)
There is definitely something wrong with me. I play willbender as my main. I'm really bad at it though, so we can still be friends.
@@matthewmcguigan4293 At least you are not a tryhard that actually thinks he is good for pressing 3-4 buttons. Big respect.
@@homage3 Yes, willbender is fun to play, but its literally ruining the game. One of maybe 2 specs that are problematic in GW2
Rev is awesome, because you actually have to think when you play it.
Love the video, showed it to my brother who is trying WB and it helped him alot. He was messing ppl up last night roaming
@@Mori72420 Thank you! I'm really glad to hear the video helped your brother!
I really enjoy your video format and style, and I hope your channel continues to grow. Merry Christmas!
As a new player I chose guardian to learn first and because I like glass cannon style play I chose Willbender. I die a lot in unranked PvP, and I appreciate the tips you provided in this video. I actually stopped using judges intervention, but I will be adding it back to my build.
@@matthewmcguigan4293 Thank you very much and Merry Christmas to you too!
I think you have to leverage the healing that is given by the spear in order to survive tougher fights. Familiarize yourself with what skills heal you and try to use them when needed!
If you ever have questions or wanna play together hit me up any time my contact info is in the description
@@homage3I will definitely look you up in game. It would be great to get tips and play with a pro.
I looked for where you responded for like 20m and couldn't find it so I'm gonna put this here: Re, Stormsinger being broken af "rn," aka. for like ~4 months:
This is another reason that I lament ArenaNet's slow balance cadence. Both Rivers and Stormsinger released with JW, and as with many of the on-Release Spears they clearly were "a step above" the other PvP tools available. But Stormsinger was bugged and didn't work correctly.
However, by basically the same time, that Stormsinger was fixed, Rivers and much of the Spears (even Guardian's a bit) got nerfed. That left Stormsinger with 0 tools to effectively compete with or counter it outside of a Tournament meta. And it just so happens to synergize with one class that also happens to have very few counters perfectly.
As we discussed I have my own ideas on what on Willbender is "overperforming right now" if anything, but I lament that we couldn't have seen the immovable staff/spear Spellbreakers from 2 seasons ago go up against the unstoppable force that is current Stormbender. I'm not saying Spellbreaker shouldn't have been nerfed, it was mad overperforming and I'm glad they *finally* started nerfing Spellbreaker specifically rather than only Warrior in general trying to hit Spellbreaker. But something is usually "oppressive" when there is either nothing to compete with or counter it. And I think that's what we're seeing reflected by the sentiment of the community right now. 😂
@6:44 I can never make that jump without speed or the dodge/jump. incredible! Great content, love your stuff =]
Thanks very much! Definitely a tough jump there!
Can’t stand how much stealth willbender has it’s so annoying but atleast the mobility is pretty bad
what
Real
FACT
What stealth lol we just move fast af boi
Willbending reality into a pretzel.
Mmmm pretzels are delicious.
Brb getting pretzels.
Judge's Intervention is such a hard crutch. lol
@@VendettaPSC Very true. I'm honestly kinda thinking it needs a cast time...
@@homage3 Probably. I personally don't use it on my WB, there's so much about the class that is already uber punishing, I refuse to add that to it. Im a WB main for sure, and the class already has so much going for, JI just makes it so overkill in my eyes and I can't use it and feel like Im being even close to fair. As if I was anyway.
And now you just need to do a roaming video on WB 👌
Also Merry Christmas!
The willbender GOAT himself. I know WB is way stronger in WVW, maybe I should give it a try...
Merry Christmas to you too brother!
I was going to congratulate you on 3k until I seen Willbender gameplay 🤮dsigustinggg!!! (jk ily congrats on 3k you deserve it! keep up the great work(gross willbender))
Haha yeah I can't blame you. Sometimes I get the urge to just break out the Willbender and melt stuff. Thanks man lets PVP soon!
In WvW, I have no problems fighting willies. Only reason i don't kill many is because my ele can't match their mobility when they run away.
Agreed. At least they don't have stealth lol
Willbending hate to the class, what a spec
Thx for the video, im main revenant, and im thinking to second main this
Glad you enjoyed. Willbender plays very similarly to power Rev. If you like one you'll probably like both 👍
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Nice vid Homage, didn’t know about those jumping spots you used. I’ll be using them for sure now.
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@@2pacMemories Hahaha thanks man. Kiting is a great skill to increase your survivability.
OMG... Now WBs are going to be a bigger PITA... Thanks Homage.
But seriously, I learned a couple things for my WB. I wish they'd quit nerfing thief so much.
@@ssh17hx0r I actually think one of the best ways to beat something is to learn how it plays.
More information about willbender helps both the willbender players and willbender haters IMO.
I do hope thief and power Rev see a little love in PVP soon. The roamer slot is so dominated by WB right now it's not even close
I love willbender, I say as a pve player that doesn't play pvp or wvw, it's quite fun in raids if you can tolerate forced movement, my heart tells me power is better but I won't lie because condi willbender is easier and more affective, there's plenty of fights where on condi willbender you can realistically out dps condi virtuoso, it has a 4k higher benchmark dps which is significant enough to give you an advantage in real fights
@@Jackie-m8i Hmm interesting. I do a some raids and strikes but haven't ran into a willbender yet. I'll have to check it out and give it a try!
mann i thought it was someone else when i went up againts homage z, cus i thought homage is a rev player so theres no way thats him on willbender now i can connfirm it was youu so cool
I secretly play pretty much every build! I typically upload Rev because I find it the most fun to watch. Nice running onto you though!
YESS WILLBENDER 🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️
SPIN TO WIN BAYBEEEE
SPEEEEEEN
Best background song ever! Haha 🤘🔥
Thank you! Can I ask which one you liked?
@ the one that sounded like blue oyster cult fear the reaper. I’m of similar vintage so to speak!! lol
@@JosephSaintClair Yes!!! I love that one
Now we just need WvW montage for fully embracing the silly class 😜
Maybe someday!!!
No, I hate Willbender with every fiber of my body
@@Davies27549 Valid lol
the most balanced build in the game
what do you get when u combine homer simpson and marge simpson? (it's not bart simpson...) HOMAGE!!!!!!
@@Gronk_Gaming This is the type of thing that could ONLY come from the mind of a thief main 🤣
This is the best Christmas gift. A guide to my favorite fair and balanced class. Thank you Santa Homage! Well made vid. On behalf of all chilly Willy's this holiday season, Merry Christmas
My D1 commenter is back with another gift. Merry Christmas to you man let's play some PVP some time soon
"fair and balanced"
Aw man I didnt know willbender was hated so much, I even went full in, lvl 80 boost and wizard vault ascendeds everything, are willbender still hated as much if its PVE
Honestly man please don't let other people's perception ruin your fun!
The reason willbender is hated by some people is because it's popular and strong. And it's popular because it's one of the most fun builds in the game!!! So just enjoy the fun build and don't listen to anyone who wants to ruin it for you.
Also, for PVE - WB is very strong and nobody will be mad at you for playing it.
@@homage3 yeah I picked it without hesitation because I thought it was cool and fun lol, I guess I will stick to WB, thank you!
To be fair, I think at the high levels most top players know how to deal with it. The vast majority of the player base however, really struggles with it. So mid/low level its king. I don't think the game should be balanced around the top 5% but rather the majority of the player base (at least this I feel is where the argument will be most). Either way WB does a lot of good things and needs to be tuned down.
@@nivi3418 WB is strong enough with the spear and stormsinger that competitive teams are all taking one too! So it's not just a noob slayer anymore
High level streamers play wb on duos. What does it tell to you? lol
that was disgusting burst
Truly heinous what this class can pull off LOL
Classic WillBender W ez best class in the game my main for a reason yknow!
@@vroomxd They hate you because they ain't you lol
I'm confused. The F1 skill is not a teleport... its run then shadow step so it will interrupt the spear 5 won't it?
@@wildmustang33 You are correct. You can use the utility skill called judges intervention during spear 5 without interrupting it
@@homage3 I tried it... if i use Spear 5 then hit judges F1 it's not instant. It leave the symbol behind, does not do the knock back. and then I do the run-port after the symbol is left behind... Is it maybe just a PVP thing?
@@homage3 Okay now i understand. So much happens so fast I missed I was thinking F1 was judges intervention. do you know how far back the knock back pushes the person away and is that the reason for the F1 after judges intervention?
Try the spear with DH in wvw if you haven't yet :) full dragon stats
@@rulotron Will give it a try!
Longbow 2 hits hard af. Perfect combo with the spear. Spear is the best melee weapon in the game.
İs there reason you are not using Valkyrie over Berserker?
I honestly don't play enough WB to tell you what's best and why. I just got this build from the top willbender players
@homage3 My own build using Valkyrie+Ranger rune (for more precision to compensate)I get 20k HP with the power trait one and still has 83 crit chance (Fury +Resolution)still has the same damage.
Played guard for 9 years as main. Bloody love it
They hate you cuz they ain't you hahaha
@@homage3 currently working on a burn bender and so far a lot of hate coming from ppl who die to it 😂😂😂
Am I allowed to say that I think willbender is fun to play? xD It needs to be toned down a bit though
@OatyOnline 100%. Love it or hate it, WB is objectively fun to play.
I would like to see the spear toned down a touch and some changes to stormsinger though.
Don't do this it makes mustard gas
@@RaggedyMimiga It's safe I have bloom off
Im a psycho who runs scepter/pistol sword/focus on wb. I think its really good in spvp but im probably the only one lol
Hahaha it's fun to cook up your own builds. You should record some gameplay and upload it. I'd like to see it in action 👍
I've been running sword focus for a long time, I absolutely love it! I used to use scepter too but my spear replaced it, it's just too strong!
coolest spec in the game across all modes and the more people get mad about it the more fuel i receive
Hahaha they hate you cuz they ain't you
@@homage3 I will say as primarily a pve player its so exhausting when people try to talk down to me as a wb player because they have anti-wb bias from PvP/wvw. Like I'll happily bully them in those modes too but when I make my reddit posts about the state of wb or whatever that I like to do after major patches it gets so exhausting trying to talk people off the proverbial ledge when they read the word willbender before they process that I said PvE
@@ObsoletePixel Dude! Now that you mention it I recognize your username and I've read a bunch of your posts on reddit. Very well written.
I honestly think anet cooked so hard with willbender and made a very fun spec to play. Which makes it very popular. And people love to hate on popular things. Don't get me wrong willbender is strong, but I think it gets blown way out of proportion.
Vindi in its prime was waaaaay stronger than WB in its prime. But vindi didn't get nearly the same hate. Just because it was less popular (IMO)
@@homage3 thank you! I'm mostly known for my pve wb but I'm a competent PvP player -- I grazed top 250 a while back but never really put my nose to the grindstone. I just love the spec and enjoy it in new contexts
People hate wb because it just Kills you. Its flaw is that outside of killing and movement to find and enable that killing its kind of one dimensional (and its tools for engaging and disengaging are one in the same), but people just remember the negative experience of dying and then make that their whole personality instead of learning the MU, and as someone from the fighting game community I've *never* understood that mentality.
Wb is the fairest it's ever been but people made up their minds and don't think further than that and its sooooo tiring
As a ele main i hate wilbender even more..how come one class gets everything and other is so abandoned😅
@@NameSurename-xx2hh Just you wait! I'm going to continue to do videos on different builds. Maybe I do ele next 🤔
Ele is very strong right now!
spear is meta....but hammer is more fun XD
@@hiroTaso7 Can't argue with you there!
7:39 trap fades right before you kill yourself... I hate traps
Playing mesmer i have to choose between dmg and survival. willbenders have everything without any drawbacks. Thanks for remember me why i deleted this game.
Hahaha I would actually say mesmer is much more overpowered than guardian in PVP right now believe it or not. If you like I can send you a build that melts willbenders
@@homage3 they're paper. If you get them off-guard they die. Willbenders have dmg, resistance and speed without any drawbacks.
Dont join the darkside pleaseeee
Hahaha don't worry Rev is still #1 in my heart
willbender.. eeeeeewww
@@coldwind8327 Valid lol
not the meta willy....
@@imjustkentaro The people need to know
trust fund class lol
Forever unbalanced class 😂 ArenaNets fav
@@Bking-wl9kn Guardian is both Anet's fav AND the GW2 community's fav. There are stats out there that show its the most popular class. I can definitely see why!
I hate guardian as a whole man. Not interested in a wb channel bro, i hate the spec so much id rather watch u play rev. Such an overtuned garbage spec i hate it
That's fair man. I think some changes are overdue too. Not planning on becoming a WB channel. Just wanted to do an updated video because my last video was out of date
Absurd damage just farting out damage for nothing. they gotta turn the shit down its busted
@@Nino-bu9mj True. The spear really does it all. Top tier damage. Top tier healing. Top tier mobility. Can't have it all.
@@homage3 its dumb man how they even gave mobility on sword 3. Then nkt give rev shield 5 some mobility it's ridiculous balance considering sword 3 isboth a very strong offensive and defensive skill.
i see willbender. i press dislike. joking. good video xd
@@Zulmer LOL join the club! Thank you though!
Delete wilbender
It do be pretty fun though
i know you said you are new to wb but oof it hurt so much watching this lol, you gotta actually use sword in your fights, looks like u just camp spear most of the time. I don't think i'd run that rune or relic either, brawler scholar is my choice.
Valid. I definitely camp spear. Brawler scholar is the mathematically inferior combo though.
Stormsinger hits for 1.5k to 2k every five seconds.
In order to get 1.5k bonus damage from the brawler relic you would need to do 15k damage in a 5 second window. Possible, but not likely.
You should upload some of your willbender gameplay and show me how it's done
@@homage3 sword 5 + JI into F1 into another damaging skill absolutely chunks, though spear 5 + JI into F1 is also valid as well. I think it's just that worse player are slower to cleanse immob (sword 5 also does slow as well) than to stun break.
Some willbenders also are used to starting with sword/sword set from before when spear was released. Spear 5 + JI is super effective though, as you showed us in the video.
Broken af..
Ew.