OG Xbox Gets A Game-Changing 1.4GHz CPU Upgrade!
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the og xbox modding and homebrew community was probably the greatest of all time. So cool that people are still going crazy on the system
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not even close xbot
@@MichaelM28Sonyponies really not sending their brightest, eh?
@@MichaelM28it really is, name one example then. PS3 is trash for modding, Wii isn’t as advanced or powerful, Dreamcast isn’t as good, and many more don’t touch it.
The og xbox and the dreamcast were so underrated
The OG Xbox is like the Dreamcast 1.5, (the Dreamcast had _powered by Microsoft Windows CE_ printed on the case. After it got canceled, where do you think the Sega engineers went? Although the Dreamcast & OG XBOX technically belong to the same console generation. Sega made some serious missteps with the Sega CD & the 32X…the 32X should’ve been released as the stand-alone Sega Neptune, and it should’ve been expandable with the Sega CD to make it compatible with both Sega CD & Saturn games, then the two could’ve coexisted…then the Saturns run would’ve been longer, Electronic Arts wouldn’t have totally cut ties with Sega, and the Dreamcast could’ve been released closer to when the PS2 & XBOX releases & would’ve been more competitive…it came out like 2 years before any of the other consoles of it’s generation, and was canceled before it could be competition against the PS2
@@lect0n7 If Sega just had to come out with an add-on it should been the 32x instead of the CD. Gaming hadn't really got the point where CDs were needed but a 32x in 1992 instead of 1995 could've been awesome.
I wish Microsoft would release a modern and miniaturized Xbox Classic with updated components. My original Xbox still works, but it has fuzzy component output and some games would really benefit from an updated CPU.
Your X-Box needs a simple recap! It'll be fine bro, know a tech?
Was really hoping an Xbox classic would come out in 2021, might just have to make a homebrew at this point.
Better cpu, faster memory, smaller, wireless controllers shaped like the originals, HDMI, ssd storage and dlss upscaling. Honestly I think it would outsell the series X
@@edwarddavid7893it definitely wouldn't
@edwarddavid7893 They cannot use DLSS because it has to be implemented in the game code. Without temporal data, there's no way to increase the resolution with real detail, so they'd just have to upscale the image, and then the results would look bad.
Unless microsoft will use software emulation to run xbox classic games it will be impossible to increase resolution. I personally do not mind playing at 480p. The thing is, 6'th gen era games (xbox classic / PS2 / GC / DC) were made with low quality assets in mind and increasing resolution only reveals more imperfections (textures no longer look sharp, low poly models and LOD transition is 10x more noticeable ruining the imerssion). At 640x480, even PS2 games have reasonably sharp textures and convincing models, yet alone xbox classic games.
But the 480p resolution has to be scaled in a special way to make it look good, because otherwise the image will be extremely ugly (pixelated and blurry) on modern 4K display. On the PC I'm using integer scaling to get perfectly sharp pixels and then I use CRT phosphor mask emulation to remove pixelation. The upscaled image looks so good at 4K that even my real SD CRT has worse image at native 640x480i (standard SD CRT TVs blurred the image way too much, while CRT phosmor mask allows me to emulate PVM / CRT monitor that has way sharper image).
Retrotink 4K can upscale 480i/p with equally good results, but the problem is that the original Xbox has a somewhat blurry picture from the component video output, so results arnt nearly as good as even on the PS2. I know there are HDMI mods for the original Xbox, but I'm not willing to take the risk.
Xbox emulation on PC is getting better and better, so even if Microsoft doesn't release a modern Xbox classic, it's only a matter of time before every great game from that platform will be playable on PC :).
Thanks for the shout-out. I did send an email via your contact information to arrange an XBOX being sent out.
Really hope Rich makes that PS3 overclock video
@@MichaelM28 Rip Felix just done one a few days ago. You should check it out.
Why would they when you said they are a Microsoft channel?
@@mikeuk666 Well, someone ought to. It'd be amazing to see it happening and perhaps going mainstream and retro tech support guys from all over the world could help us have better PS3s.
I got a few overclocked 2501's. Its alot of fun
@@mikeuk666attention seeking kids award 😂😂😂
Shout out to Retro Renegade, TronicsFix and dosdude1 for being amazing. I have learned a lot about PCB repair from these folks.
TronicsFix is available now?
For the record: Most 40nm RSX are safe to 700MHz core/900MHz VRAM. However there are later batches that has gone 900 to 1000MHz (both core and VRAM). The latter however, is NOT advisable and only gets you diminishing returns. The modding community has poured incredible work in testing chip batches.
The 256MB memory upgrade is cool too.
Yes, CPU upgrade is not something new, it's been doing 20 years ago when ogx is current system. But ram upgrade up to 256mb is really new feature and more interesting. Like new mod chips with new bios system.
@@_Tualatin_Kinda useless, I mean we could get higher resolutions but the instability is insane, and games weren't meant to use more ram than specified
@@mikestaph it's unstable because it's on very early stage. Mostly mods like this don't have any utilitari sense it's just because you can. May be in future it's can be somehow improve in game by patching. It's interesting because it's new and broke limits.
@@_Tualatin_ I'm looking forward to a new Minecraft port, Xbox is pretty darn good in raw power, with more ram we could get a better build than the one that's on the wii
Nah, it's totally useless
The Halo 2 720p mod is also a really good mod.
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This video already showed up in my feed. I think it’s great you are calling it out. Neat stuff!
I found with my RSX that it capped with 750 on the core and 975 on the memory. I haven’t tried over 975 with the memory, due to the possibility of bricking. My PS3 is an A01 Frankie and has the 40nm RSX.
Pentium III 1.4Ghz, Sega Chihiro GPU, 256MB RAM.
Chihiro used same GPU
I'd like to see a benchmark for Painkiller: Hell Wars. It's a physics heavy game that ran with an unlocked framerate on the Xbox
did they forget the link to the guys channel?
Channel name's in the bottom left
@RetroRenegadeRepairs
www.youtube.com/@RetroRenegadeRepairs
Yes they forgot to link him in this DFClips channel, but not on the video this clip came from on the main Digital Foundry channel.
Link to RetroRenegadeRepairs on YT : www.youtube.com/@RetroRenegadeRepairs
Thanks, Paul. The original video is really interesting.
06:08 Don't tell MVG.
Shout out to Macho Nacho Productions too! He does really chill upgrade mods to various consoles!
Just wish we could do the same with a PS4 or a PS4 Pro so i can finally play various CPU limited games way better
or an XBOX One
@@GlassICEwait for the Overclock on the CPU side, and the best Part it's that actually PS4 CPU is an CPU designed to run at 3.2Ghz as you can find it on PC jaguar CPUs with that clock
That’s basically what playing on the ps5 or services X does
Obviously you lose out on the period hardware vibe
Rich needs to overclock a mega drive, all you need to do is solder two traces together. From 7mhz to 12 or so
😂
i recently discovered the retro renegade channel as well. he's enjoyable to watch, and he does some great content. i think he recently upgraded that xbox ram to 256 mega bytes as well.
This would have been great for Unreal Championship 2. That game felt like it was running at around 20fps on the OG Xbox. It wasn't until the Series X where it could hold a lock.
I found this guys channel from this video and subbed immediately. Short videos. Straight to the point.
Give him a sub. Hope his channel blows up
Crud. Now my Wii and PS2 are completely obsolete!
Wii was next gen, fren
How? PS2 has over 4 times as many games 🤨
wii was weaker than Xbox OG@@bravefastrabbit770
Crud
@@MichaelM28Who cares about shovelware tho? Also it was a joke, you ppl really ain't very sharp.
I think it would be so cool if someone made a custom motherboard that is designed to be an og xbox with modern features built in to make upgrading easier. Desktop or laptop ddr ram, desktop or laptop cpus, desktop psus, and the ability to just use sata drives. Honestly I would be willing to spend a decent amount on a motherboard like that.
I still adore the OG xbox. I got ps2 at launch and was massively underwhelmed graphics wise. I sold it after a year and half and got the xbox. It just felt like a huge leap over the ps2, not just graphically (first time playing Halo was mind blowing) but also the materials used to make the console felt more expensive.
Eh, I wouldn’t go that far. The best looking PS2 and GameCube games easily stand next to the best of the Xbox regardless of its power advantage. Most things being interlaced on PS2 is definitely an annoying disadvantage though.
@@seanmcbayI disagree. Some games looked more like a 360 game than a PS2 game
@@seanmcbayjust look at splinter cell chaos theory ps2 vs xbox
What a terrible decision you made 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Both made were made of cheap plastic. Nothing about the xbox design more premium than the PS2.
Retro Renegade Repairs got 4k extra subs since this video went up 😅
I was just saying how cool it would be with the Xbox 360 Store closing for Microsoft to release a retro 360 with overclocked CPUs. The Xbox 360 E from 2013 could've and should've been so much more. Imagine an updated Xbox 360, overclocked, upgraded SATA interface so you could add faster storage, and support for a modern UI. The market is there and Microsoft still sells over 500 backcompat games on the Microsoft store anyway. They could sell these new units at $199 and people would still buy what digital game they can. It is a license to print money. They could relicense games like Forza 1&2 and sell them at full price and people will buy them.
5:30 - oh we'll get those subs up - it's electronics, so not for everyone, but...
Phil Spencer said the next XBox is going to be a huge step forward in hardware. As long as Microsoft doesn't stop this plans ...
I wonder how a Series X successor would be like, if it would have a upgradable graphics card or CPU unit. Similar PC cases to the Series X design are available and it would be really nice to just swap the "RX 6700 10 GB" GPU in the current one to a RX 6800 XT 16 GB or even a 7900 GRE.
Such a console design that combines upgradability with an ready to use system would be the next step for enthusiasts. I am sure AMD could come up with "stock XBox" video cards that are optimized for moderate power usage and fit into a small space such a console design has.
People were already doing this back in 2004!
you watched the same video that everyone was pushed in a set region
If I'm not mistaken, these kind of mods can have no (positive) effect while playing games the honest way? Is it only for the homebrew side of things?
Not true, games like Half-Life 2 gets huge FPS boost from the added performance
It varies. Many games break with CPU upgrade and must be patched (if a patch exists). There's a spreadsheet somewhere that lists it all out.
Interesting Video was released days ago, who overclock the PS3 Slim, which is impressive.
Run chirao arcade games with a 128mb ram and 1.4 ghz and see if virtua cop 3 runs amazing.
Doesn't this cause any compatibility/FR issues with the games? Aren't these games developed for a specific CPU?
Some games are modded for it in mind. Most games you need to downclock to stock to avoid glitches.
better cpu than the ps4 and x1 cpu.
MVG has a video that partially shows the benefits with a better CPU, but I don't think it's the 1.4GHZ one. There is also now a 256MB mod
Need someone to make these and sell them as an xbox MAX or Ultra or something else appropriately y2k sounding
I’ve always wanted to strip a Xbox 360 and a PS3 and fit them both in a PC tower.
Shame I haven’t got the knowledge or experience to get round the numerous errors that would show in both systems being out of their original shells.
Similar to the ORIGINS PLAYBOX back in the day.
I feel like I've seen videos of people doing this exact thing.
Where’s the link!?
I wished you would do or mention a Frankenstein PS3
Awesome mod but doesn't improve performance, only reliability
@@MichaelM28 I agree
@@jakesnow96actually we can Overclock RSX to Twice the Clock which will Make Performance Twice than original.
@@MichaelM28@jakesnow96 actually we can Overclock RSX to Twice the Clock which will Make Performance Twice than original.
@@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss it doesn't work that way. at around 700mhz on RSX and 850mhz on VRAM you start getting diminishing returns. also you can end up bricking your console if you target frequencies far above the original values.
Link in the description naaah.
He's on 9.6k subs now
Slowest Celeron was 333mhz. I had it.
PC gaming has 2 big issue that is operating system and optimization. I have a 13700kf , a rx 7800xt , ddr5 64gb 6800mhz ram and a 2TB WD black sn850x . I had so many stuttering issues in games like Fortnite Fortnite, battlefield 1, apex legends, COD etc so I had to trouble shoot windows for months to run games properly . I'm getting like stable 400fps in Fortnite but It didn't feel buttery smooth even though I was playing on 360hz monitor, getting 1% low fps above 269 and getting 0.1% low fps 210 I fixed this issue by disabling prefetch on windows.
is it a new variation?
You guys seen the 8gb overclocked nintendo switch? I think the channel name is naga.
Having the original xbox with a 1.4ghz cpu and 256mb of memory would be pretty good
imagine it originally came out with these clocks plus hyperthreading
Its all about the pentiums baby
The 1,4GHz upgrade is not new in any way
I think It has 10 years lol😂😂😂
Xbot game changer to PS5
Did df just happen to find my shared post via media hope i dont get copyright striked woops the guy deserves a applause
U can tell just by looking that u were an xbox kid
It's incredible that this is possible to do.
Hasn't this been a thing for years though? I know it got hugely popular in the past month but people have been doing this for a *while*
It has, though this approach is different as he added a socket
THEY NEED TO TRY NINJA GAIDEN BLACK THE STAIRS SCENE
the hardware couldnt hold up and slowed the game down
Welcome to 2005.
Upgraded XBox to 1.4 Ghz what was original speed?
700mhz so he's double speed
733mhz
OG XBOX X 😅
This week? I was aware of Xbox CPu upgrades atleast a decade
I think it might be specifically, putting a socket on it, not necessarily the CPU upgrade itself.
yes,i was wondering why so many people seems pumped about upgrading xbox CPUs lately when this existed for a long time. there was even a company back then doing this, Friendtech.
Eventually going to make og Xbox more powerful than the Xbox 360 lol
Very cool
The Xbox 360 is backwards-compatible & has a triple core IBM PowerPC CPU which runs at 3.2-GHZ… why bother putting a better pentium III in it?
The world still needs an explanation for the new Xbox Series Consoles!
I think xbox just wanted multiple ways for multiple types of people to play there games
@@fadercreek You can get an original 1TB Xbox stick for just 100 USD, and then removing the disk-drive?
OG XBOX is the best console hardware ever made because of PC silimarities
Don't current consoles have just as much pc similarity?
@@urmomma2688 they are more customized
@@urmomma2688 well they are not as open. maybe they will be in the future when people hack them
PS2 is better. Cope harder
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer don't feed the troll
Everyone loves the original Xbox, then later the 360 red ring of death came about. I switched from Xbox 360 to PS3 and never looked back, PS4 and PS5 are great consoles also 👍
Okay. And?
Not really game changing though is it.
I’m in the minority that thinks Xbox peaked with the original machine. I really didn’t care for the 360 era (or the ps3 for that matter), and Xbox one is kind of a joke. I suppose these newest boxes are half decent though, but I didn’t invest in the ecosystem enough to make it worth it.
The PS2, Dreamcast, gamcube and Xbox had the most creative games. We are lucky to have been around for that era of gaming.
It did. By far their best console and my favorite console
@@kasjamm PS2 is objectively better
@@MichaelM28Your comments are objectively terrible.
Soo that upgrade does nothing worth while, just like ram upgrades, they have been "developing" on the HD stuff for some time and still nothing. This is a lot of work for minmal gains to nothing, -20 years modding xboxs It's not "game changing" the clickbait title also this is NOT new LOL
So you're saying Microsoft can't make hardware and it needs some random person to make it better
Not really a secret that video game consoles have to cut costs somewhere. The price of those CPUs nowadays is negligible but back then it was huge
The Xbox cpu was already more powerful than the other consoles. This is just upgrading it
Like the ps4 and Xbox one both have more or less the same garbage cpu and there were soooo many better options but more expensive
Pentium 3 1.4Ghz ??
Pentium 3 has higher IPC than pentium 4... So this one should faster than some of the early Pentium 4 that run around 1.4Ghz
Let me guess you want a free modded xbox
Hi Everyone !
Makes no damn sense lol
How?
@@fadercreek meaning makes no sense why you would even want to do this with a console this age. Lol
@@reviewforthetube6485 lol fun stuff like this pushes companies to do different things this could help them for mini consoles and handhelds
Bc it's fun @@reviewforthetube6485
@@reviewforthetube6485Because we can. Like, why even comment? Makes no sense either.
IDK.
Looks hard. Insane. Hey if you can pull it off i suppose. Id probably mess it up. Then without a xbox.
Looks like it benefits emulators. Maybe a game or 2 maybe unrelesed.
Whats up with leaking capacitor. Why.
IDK were sticking with emulator for xbox thanks.
One dude said bought a xbox for online and the hack will overwright the hack. So no point.
Of all the people in df, i honestly feel jaeger adds nothing too the table. Df should honestly just replace him
To the table, not too. Also, what are you useful for?
@@KarlTheExpert not wasting time quarrelling on RUclips
I'd love to get a ps3 RSX overclock, to play Demon's Souls with framerate over 30. I refuse to play the Bluepoint remake : they've changed the art direction so much! And not for the better.
The game is capped at 30fps so you won't be able to go over 30. You wouldn't want to anyway as it was stutter like crazy.
The remake is absolutely amazing
@@MichaelM28Nah, it's overrated and already forgotten.
Demon's Souls on PS3 has speed tied to framerate. what the game needed really was a properly framepaced performance which we know the Fromsoftware games don't have
you are 10 years too late if not more
Now tell that to all everyone in thd retro scene
@@mikeuk666attention seeking child award 😂😂😂
DF Aka The Pony Channel is actually doing a good Xbox review 😂
DF has always been an Xbot channel 🤡
@@MichaelM28 ugh no 😂
@@sanchezs7614ugh yeah 😂😂
@MichaelM28 is that why you are subscribed then and attention seeking 😂
@@MichaelM28 ugh.. kiss me 😘
No new Xbox hardware, only going back to old technology. Xbox is done especially with the world wide computer shutdown
You make zero sense.
@@KarlTheExpert Microsoft said if you don't like our new Xbox you can always go back to 360... lol
Why ? If the XSX is back compatible
Not all are back compatible
not all games are, plus its cool
Only about 50/1000 games are backwards compatible
Nothing beats an original game on original hardware. Playing older games on a newer console is cool for convenience but there’s an entire community of people who still play original hardware. You have to realize there were nearly 30M worldwide of these devices sold. And that’s just Xbox. For PS2 it was close to 150+M. They’re still out there and people will fix them to keep them running. Especially with how the state of gaming is becoming all digital.
This mod is done more for the mod scene. All the emulators, homebrew etc.
First
Your parents must be so proud
@@JackBrightmore I hope you feel better one of these days 🙏🏻
I used to be in the same boat a while back
@@joshuatealeaves cringe
@@mikeuk666 You got me
PS2 >>>>>>> trashbox
Wasn't the PS2 very hard to develop for while the Dreamcast, Gamecube, and Xbox were easy to develop for? The only thing the PS2 has going for it is the crazy particle effects.
Imagine being so triggered you have to defend your corporate brand 😂
@@mikeuk666 That's unfortunately the nature of console/computer wars. People are still up in arms about the ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 war.
@@mikeuk666you're the last person who should be saying that xbot 😂😂😂
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer The guy you're responding to is a plastic box warrior buddy
The scarred kid is hard to watch , i can't stand him.
Interesting but completely pointless
Being interesting is the point.
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