3:45 oh my god............. this game has the SAME problem that Forza Horizon does, where if you throw your tail out to tailwhip it doesn't count as penalty, you can see the leader makes sure their first contact is tail-first so the game doesn't credit a penalty (you can do that in Forza to ram people without problem, since it only ghosts you if you hit nose/front 3/4s) Edit Ay Steve, notice that 90% of the incidents you looked back to see were caused by the guy who had to take a pitbox stop? that one Spaniard just being a missile of doom wrecking everyone, you can see it's Moha Blackpanter who causes the massive wreck at 16:17 some folks should get vacation'd like Iracing does, lol.
The problem is not with these games. The issue is with the people who plays those games and expect realism. Forza and Gran Turismo has been and will always be an ARCADE game. Simples as that. Want real stuff ? Acc and iRacing.
Got to drive on the same lobby with you on that last race. Almost couldn't believe it when I saw the names and the chat saying "hello viewers, Super GT here" The rank BS is more than descriptive of my capabilities on this game. Was nowhere near you the entire race, still felt nice to even play in the same lobby. All the best, from a keen viewer!
The biggest problem with this track is Track Limits basically does not exist for some reason despite being on, if you look at photo mode or use free cam in race pics, you can all the drivers go below the white line while wall riding and the gap between the line and the wall is more than a car's width yet the game doesn't pick up drivers going well beyond the white line so my suggestion is to fix track limits to make sure it's actually working for High Speed Ring so that people will stop wall riding since a track limit penalty that is worth 1s-1.5s penalty is more than enough to stop drivers from going below the white line to initiate their wall riding shenanigans.
It's really fitting for a legacy track to have this kind of exploit possible, the early Gran Turismo games have plenty of corners you can wall ride with great success.
This is going to sound like a meme but they fixed wallriding in Forza, try it once and it resets you standing way back in the corner. Probably like 20s for an attempted wallride lol
Honestly don't get why in racing games they make barriers so perfectly geometrical. It's not like it actually matters; make the bounding box of the object just slightly invisibly jagged or something to stop wall riding, nothing fancy required ...
Makes sense as an easy preventative measure but would over-penalize incidental contact. If I just happen to go wide (get pushed, brake late, dirty air, rain, etc), my car shouldn’t get smoked by an invisible jagged surface
I am deeply regretting making this comment to another fan of this channel that I deeply regret having to tell you this no one in the development team of this game evidently plays the game and therefore they do not care or they would have fixed it 2 years after its creation it's continuation of bugs that do not get fixed through General playing of the game it's quite saddening to all of us to have a game that would be bug-free or fixed which I know this is very strange to hear from someone evidently is illegal in some sort strange laws that no one knows about and cannot happen on this plane of reality we shall have Gran Turismo 8 to repeat all of the same complaints about again thank you for your time and Godspeed
Tracks need runoff on the outside of corners. If you run wide, there needs to be a sand or gravel pit or grass and the wall needs to be further away. It's not just a geometry issue, there needs to be dirt or something which saps your speed way down like you'd see in a real world track that leads off to a distant tire wall.
Agree, but never pole, you are sucking the mayhem right into your rear bumper. 😂 Third place is the safest in my view the first two will be killing eachother so you can drive safer lines to avoid the bell ends behind you. I had one race were I could even work together with number 2 with bumpsrafting to catch up to 1st place, that was fun. I got 3rd in the end, but still fun.
I did this race probably 10 times and it just dropped my ratings no matter what I did. People will just use you to wall ride or use you as a braking point
I was doing my quali lap yesterday and could not understand how I was down by over a second until I watched the top time ghost and realized he Ross Chastain'd the shit out of it with the wall riding lol. PD really needs to get some consistency with track limits and barrier contact with regard to validation of laps.
The turn you were talking about in the beginning of this video when I raced this track on sport mode I got hit into that barrier and got a 0.5 second penalty and the guy who hit me got away with it but I still beat him in the end.
Feeling that UK heat I see, brother. Wall riding is a Gran Turismo meme just as you mentioned. Wouldn't be online gaming if there wasn't some actual foolishness to deal with.
They should just give a 3 second penalty every time the car impacts the wall. I set this up for customs and ended up with a 2 minute penalty with that one wall
Why? Wallriding is a perfectly valid tactic in IRL motorsports, albeit risky. It really seems like something that only upsets F1 fans, since it's acceptable for touring car, stockcar, and rally races.
Insane! Forza Horizon had a wall riding problem as well and they fixed that in the 3rd game (Rivals) and 4th (Rivals and Online mode) of the series. I loved playing High Speed Ring as a kid in the original Gran Turismo.
When I used to race RC cars (tamiyas mostly) we had a big wall on the corner just after the back straight, we simply called it The Wall Of Death, as understeering and slamming into the wall was a great way to break parts
Great vid Steve! I had someone pit me in the final stretch of a race I was winning once. It was at Sardegna B, leading after the final turn. P2 pushed me into the pits and by the time I auto-drove through i was down to 3rd hah.
Why don't they just remove a few sections of the guard rail so it's not smooth and you just get stopped if you go into a gap. Would that not immediately solve the issue?
My favorite track and it's screwed up. I get slammed into the wall and I get the penalty. Another guy hits the wall, comes back across in front of me and I hit him and I get a big penalty. This race is really hosed up.
That is like my early trackmania Days. I was baffled to learn that the fastest way to take a 90 degree right hand corner by turning left into the wall which would reduce your speed and catapult you to the right.
I had I few of these wall riders. Last time I was driving second, gaining on number one except in that part when he did the wallride he won a bit again. Only the last last round he got a penalty and I drove right through him. I love these wallriders, they make you push hard and the (almost inevitable) victory is so much sweeter.😂 That pit manoeuvre (yeah I know) was bloody brilliant.
A potential fix could be to flatten out the top of the banking and move the barrier away from the lip of the banking. So you can't reach the wall without going over the banking lip and therefore costing you bigtime. It would also bring in a factor of skill of maximising track space at the top of the banking without going over. However doing this, will open up another can of chaos of people just helping you off the top of the banking to screw you over. So it's a difficult one to solve.
HSR. man that brings back some great memories of 1v1 in GT1. you cannot go high in the last turn if you're leading, its an automatic screw up if your opponent knows what hes doing.
That Turn 2 banking needs to have a banking reduction like the last turn has, right near the wall, so getting too close to the wall would make you lose control, or even bottom out
“Box this lap mate” 😭😭
Bro got a clean race thing too 😭
Technically he crossed the white line so that's a penalty on him 😂
Had me dying 😭
All casual like 😂
🤣🤣🤣 I can't stop 😭
The Clean Race bonus after the pit-lane move + 6th place finish is perhaps humanity’s greatest moment so far
not the first time ive seen it, ive seen it on his bathurst race against a bmw driver
Absolutely LOVED it lolol
Certified Super GT moment
miracles do happen mate
OOHHH YEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!
9:46 That was absolutely satisfying revenge for his tomfoolery😂
it had to be done
his pit crew were definitely confused seeing him enter lol
Fair game. Nothing to see here, folks.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Loved it
What a strange time for the Spaniard to decide to box, curious.
he knows something we don't
michael schumacher strat 😂
Who me?
Have you ever seen a more satisfying ushering into the pit lane? 😂😂😂
"box this lap mate" had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣
9:50 LMAO. Beautiful, beautiful justice.
the english vs spanish beef after the euros final is real💀
Luckily I don’t care about football so I don’t care, it’s just a ball of air lads, its not important..👍
@@leekelly9639i heard same thing, when ur parents disowned you
pit lane move was some nefarious work
9:51 bro forgot to change tyres last minute .
Off ya go, pit this lap 😂😂😂
a literal "pit maneuver" at 9:45 lol
3:45 oh my god............. this game has the SAME problem that Forza Horizon does, where if you throw your tail out to tailwhip it doesn't count as penalty, you can see the leader makes sure their first contact is tail-first so the game doesn't credit a penalty (you can do that in Forza to ram people without problem, since it only ghosts you if you hit nose/front 3/4s)
Edit
Ay Steve, notice that 90% of the incidents you looked back to see were caused by the guy who had to take a pitbox stop? that one Spaniard just being a missile of doom wrecking everyone, you can see it's Moha Blackpanter who causes the massive wreck at 16:17 some folks should get vacation'd like Iracing does, lol.
It's been a problem since GT4 I believe.
Yes i use that and it works 😂
The problem is not with these games. The issue is with the people who plays those games and expect realism. Forza and Gran Turismo has been and will always be an ARCADE game. Simples as that. Want real stuff ? Acc and iRacing.
@@Flashzinh0no one wants to play those old ass games
@@u2msnake Then try iRacing or Acc
7:15 “the Curvé Barry R” should probably be the name
A Barry R user, man of culture.
10:00 ah, Super GT and sixth place. A match made in heaven.
Got to drive on the same lobby with you on that last race. Almost couldn't believe it when I saw the names and the chat saying "hello viewers, Super GT here" The rank BS is more than descriptive of my capabilities on this game.
Was nowhere near you the entire race, still felt nice to even play in the same lobby.
All the best, from a keen viewer!
High Speed Ring 2: revenge of the Barry Arsehole
The biggest problem with this track is Track Limits basically does not exist for some reason despite being on, if you look at photo mode or use free cam in race pics, you can all the drivers go below the white line while wall riding and the gap between the line and the wall is more than a car's width yet the game doesn't pick up drivers going well beyond the white line so my suggestion is to fix track limits to make sure it's actually working for High Speed Ring so that people will stop wall riding since a track limit penalty that is worth 1s-1.5s penalty is more than enough to stop drivers from going below the white line to initiate their wall riding shenanigans.
Let's call the wall ride corner the Ross Chastain corner for his famous wall ride back in 2022.
Ngl, that pit maneuver was well deserved and funny 😂
It's really fitting for a legacy track to have this kind of exploit possible, the early Gran Turismo games have plenty of corners you can wall ride with great success.
And then people get angry about layout changes of the OG tracks.
@@Terrtail tbf they should just keep the legacy layouts available for casual play
Mr Street Fighter livery knew what this race was about and chose his warpaint correctly.
The R. Kelly corner. (Bump and grind)
Barry R approves this post.
Barry R Kelly! Perfection 😚 👌
@@SylverPfeildamn I was going to type this
He swore so many times after that manoeuvre 😂
This is going to sound like a meme but they fixed wallriding in Forza, try it once and it resets you standing way back in the corner. Probably like 20s for an attempted wallride lol
Honestly don't get why in racing games they make barriers so perfectly geometrical. It's not like it actually matters; make the bounding box of the object just slightly invisibly jagged or something to stop wall riding, nothing fancy required ...
Makes sense as an easy preventative measure but would over-penalize incidental contact. If I just happen to go wide (get pushed, brake late, dirty air, rain, etc), my car shouldn’t get smoked by an invisible jagged surface
Or they could just make you slower if you touch a wall like in older games
I am deeply regretting making this comment to another fan of this channel that I deeply regret having to tell you this no one in the development team of this game evidently plays the game and therefore they do not care or they would have fixed it 2 years after its creation it's continuation of bugs that do not get fixed through General playing of the game it's quite saddening to all of us to have a game that would be bug-free or fixed which I know this is very strange to hear from someone evidently is illegal in some sort strange laws that no one knows about and cannot happen on this plane of reality we shall have Gran Turismo 8 to repeat all of the same complaints about again thank you for your time and Godspeed
Tracks need runoff on the outside of corners. If you run wide, there needs to be a sand or gravel pit or grass and the wall needs to be further away. It's not just a geometry issue, there needs to be dirt or something which saps your speed way down like you'd see in a real world track that leads off to a distant tire wall.
Look up wall riding NASCAR (Ross Chastain).
Apparently, it's a valid strategy.
You literally have to start up front in this race to get anything close to a relatively clean race in this
Agreed. Either that or get extremely lucky 😂
@@Super_GT that too 😆
Agree, but never pole, you are sucking the mayhem right into your rear bumper. 😂
Third place is the safest in my view the first two will be killing eachother so you can drive safer lines to avoid the bell ends behind you.
I had one race were I could even work together with number 2 with bumpsrafting to catch up to 1st place, that was fun. I got 3rd in the end, but still fun.
I did this race probably 10 times and it just dropped my ratings no matter what I did. People will just use you to wall ride or use you as a braking point
LOL that Spanish boxing though!
9:52 I didn't know you had it in you 😂
Omg, the box this lap is hilarious, you were just helping him out!
If anyone hasn't already said it, "Chastain corner" is the obvious name mate.
9:50 box box, box box
9:46 Bro I couldn't stop laughing
9:37 this other spanish driver who ram you from the beginning gets a karma too 😂
Justice was served in this race, and there was no holding back.
That's why you don't quit a race, you never know what could happen
Mate that was gold, pushing him in to the pits like that. I laughed so hard, well played!
Gran Turismo 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 had wall riding problems as well.
Did they fix it on GT Sport?
The more things change, the more they stay the same :^)
@@BenjjjDWno lol😊
Back in GTS every tap with the wall offer you 5s penalty... Even slightly, way more unforgiving than GT7.@@BenjjjDW
Yes but they where mainly offline games , GT SPORT and now GT7 having the Sport Mode, makes this issue way more important
Just increase the friction of the barriers so that cars are slowed down dramatically. Problem sovved
Son, are you winning? “I GOT PUSHED IN THE PIT LANES😭”
The last race was a fun watch, but it made me wheeze with laughter when you lobbed the cheeky Spaniard in the pit lane 😂
They took chastain's wall ride as a challenge .. but in the wrong place
That should be the corner's name, Chastain.
Hail Melon!
Chastain got it from GT 😅
I was doing my quali lap yesterday and could not understand how I was down by over a second until I watched the top time ghost and realized he Ross Chastain'd the shit out of it with the wall riding lol. PD really needs to get some consistency with track limits and barrier contact with regard to validation of laps.
If it's a valid tactic in actual motorsports, I don't see why the Real Driving Simulator should forbid it.
It's almost as if gran turismo isn't actually "the real driving simulator"
Gran Turismo is, and always had been more of an advertisement than a game.
You should call it Barry Wall, the less aggressive friend of Barry R.
The turn you were talking about in the beginning of this video when I raced this track on sport mode I got hit into that barrier and got a 0.5 second penalty and the guy who hit me got away with it but I still beat him in the end.
Disgusting use of the pit lane there. Pure filth. 😂😂😂
Corner should be called Grindr. Obviously.
Genius
'Tryna catch me riding dirty'
Feeling that UK heat I see, brother. Wall riding is a Gran Turismo meme just as you mentioned. Wouldn't be online gaming if there wasn't some actual foolishness to deal with.
Bro that was absolutely perfect 😂😂😂 "box this lap, mate"
The should add a tiny invisible corner there so it yeets you off it
Love the new set up room😅
9:54 redefined the old "pit maneuver"! I reckon Crofty would have loved that 😂
The way you made him box was absolutely clean, what a maestro 😂 you did it so elegantly too, he deserved it as well, great video!!
Curva Grinder: the new name for that turn.
They should just give a 3 second penalty every time the car impacts the wall. I set this up for customs and ended up with a 2 minute penalty with that one wall
Why? Wallriding is a perfectly valid tactic in IRL motorsports, albeit risky. It really seems like something that only upsets F1 fans, since it's acceptable for touring car, stockcar, and rally races.
@@theKashConnoisseur no it isn't. It's banned
@@nuztuz903 nobody is giving time penalties to rally drivers for hitting walls, silly.
@@theKashConnoisseur well they certainly don't do it intentionally to gain time
@@nuztuz903 Ross Chastain begs to differ.
Barry R agrees that race no. 2 was a very clean race
Man you made my day with that revenge move, absolute fun
Insane! Forza Horizon had a wall riding problem as well and they fixed that in the 3rd game (Rivals) and 4th (Rivals and Online mode) of the series. I loved playing High Speed Ring as a kid in the original Gran Turismo.
When I used to race RC cars (tamiyas mostly) we had a big wall on the corner just after the back straight, we simply called it The Wall Of Death, as understeering and slamming into the wall was a great way to break parts
"I don't see a problem with this" - Ross Chastain
9:53 GET IN IN IN IN IN IN IN IN THERE LEWIS! 👏👏👌🤣🤣🤣
Karma at its finest. That was simply beautiful 👍
Great vid Steve! I had someone pit me in the final stretch of a race I was winning once. It was at Sardegna B, leading after the final turn. P2 pushed me into the pits and by the time I auto-drove through i was down to 3rd hah.
9:54 move of the century. Was so happy you did that 😂 👏🏽
Why don't they just remove a few sections of the guard rail so it's not smooth and you just get stopped if you go into a gap. Would that not immediately solve the issue?
GT has had this problem since GT1. You'd think they would have changed it by now lol
seeing you push him into the lane when you're such a clean racer made my night
Love you videos steve been watching you all the way back when you started in gt sport
Give the walls a slight bounce depending on the angle with a slow no one would ever touch it again. 😂
Watching Steve make such an un-Steve move was hugely satisfying. Thank you for that.
Wow a SGT video that comes out while the daily race is still active instead of the week after. Love to see it maybe I’ll learn something I can use
My favorite track and it's screwed up. I get slammed into the wall and I get the penalty. Another guy hits the wall, comes back across in front of me and I hit him and I get a big penalty. This race is really hosed up.
That is like my early trackmania Days. I was baffled to learn that the fastest way to take a 90 degree right hand corner by turning left into the wall which would reduce your speed and catapult you to the right.
Im old TrackMania driver 😂, maybe thats reason i use walls good
Used to love the wall ride on the original GT Hig Speed Ring with the maxed out Mitsubishi GTO which was absurdly fast and uncontrollable
The literal pit maneuver is so satisfying lol
The "box this lap" was crazy💀😂
Definitely hitting your stride in terms of editing/commentary. So happy to be here for it m8!
Holy that clean race was IMMENSE 😂😂😂
9:50 was brilliant 😂 deserves a Knighthood ⚔️ 👑
The Pit Road Pusher move. Love it. Best thing to do on any GT game ever.
I am enjoying this race this week, not going to lie. It’s just nice having a bit of variety.
For whatever reason, "troublemaker" was the very first thing that's come to my mind when Steve asked for suggestions for a name for that corner 🤔
that gentle nudge into the pitlane genuinely made me laugh - he had it coming tbh!
That Spaniard pushed into the pits had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣
Love you're videos bro 😍
I had I few of these wall riders.
Last time I was driving second, gaining on number one except in that part when he did the wallride he won a bit again.
Only the last last round he got a penalty and I drove right through him.
I love these wallriders, they make you push hard and the (almost inevitable) victory is so much sweeter.😂
That pit manoeuvre (yeah I know) was bloody brilliant.
That pitlane usher was amazing, and made absolutely hilarious when you earned the clean race star 🤣🤣
ross chastain’s favorite track & zandvoort’s long lost bro.
the 32,000,000USD race.
9:47-10:12 lol that was savage paybacc
Alternative title: Barry-R being ridden hard for 20 minutes
Thx for the race, was fun
That push into pit lane was diabolical but necessary lol
This weeks races are amazing. This one and the gr3 race is also just as intense. Feels like a mad max world out there this week
"Box this lap, mate" should become your new catch phrase.
“Clean Race” Welllll about that…….😂
Nice to see you back !
Never have I thought I'd see super GT performing a slide job
That corner should totally be called the Paint
Scraper
The revenge pit move was absolutely cold
A potential fix could be to flatten out the top of the banking and move the barrier away from the lip of the banking. So you can't reach the wall without going over the banking lip and therefore costing you bigtime. It would also bring in a factor of skill of maximising track space at the top of the banking without going over.
However doing this, will open up another can of chaos of people just helping you off the top of the banking to screw you over.
So it's a difficult one to solve.
HSR. man that brings back some great memories of 1v1 in GT1. you cannot go high in the last turn if you're leading, its an automatic screw up if your opponent knows what hes doing.
That Turn 2 banking needs to have a banking reduction like the last turn has, right near the wall, so getting too close to the wall would make you lose control, or even bottom out
7:20 obankaroo