PGA370 Socket Install OG XBOX Holy Grail of XBOX Mods?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
  • In todays episode we install a socket 370 PGA370 and the Intel PIII 1.4Ghz 512K 133MHz processor Tualatin onto the original XBOX console. We'll be achieving the socket 370 attachment with the use of the open source interposer.
    We'll be showing comparisons and footage of the 733MHz stock XBOX CPU vs the 1GHz and 1.4GHz CPUs that are in our upgraded machines. Game footage shown: Half-Life 2, Doom 3, Matrix Path of Neo, Surreal64 CE F-zero X, and KI2 arcade.
    We know there will be an improvement, but do all of the games benefit from the CPU upgrade? Which games have the most glaring differences between the three CPUs?
    Check out our previous CPU video where we install an Intel Slot 1 1GHz CPU onto the Original XBOX:
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Комментарии • 541

  • @Soonjai
    @Soonjai 19 дней назад +312

    Somehow it feels wrong to see Half-Life 2 running smoothly on the XBox.
    Awesome upgrade.

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT 19 дней назад +10

      It was so smooth I was getting uncanny valley feels, myself.
      Mind you, I can go play HL2 @ 144fps (displayed) any time, and it doesn't look *that* smooth.

    • @JourG215
      @JourG215 13 дней назад +4

      The funny thing is the Xbox was a beast in it's day. So imagine what Nintendo and Sony where pushing back then.

    • @Chris-yy7qc
      @Chris-yy7qc 9 дней назад +1

      Its crazy how badly HL2 ran. People paid a lot of money for an Xbox and the game and got this...

    • @Chris-yy7qc
      @Chris-yy7qc 9 дней назад +3

      @@JourG215 The framerate was never an issue for the N64, because the games where designed to run on this exact hardware.
      Meanwhile the xbox ran mostly ported windows games.
      The hardware specs on the Xbox might be superior to the N64. But the N64 was way more optimized.

    • @JourG215
      @JourG215 9 дней назад

      @@Chris-yy7qcok nerd. cope

  • @matthiasmartin4355
    @matthiasmartin4355 10 дней назад +156

    Digital Foundry brought me here. Great content and video!

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  10 дней назад +17

      Awesome! Thank you!

    • @gnurken
      @gnurken 10 дней назад +8

      Me too. Please see if you can collaborate with foundry for perf testing

    • @kevclark8661
      @kevclark8661 10 дней назад +2

      same

    • @GreggyAck
      @GreggyAck 9 дней назад

      Same. Channel seems great!

    • @petrsonTD
      @petrsonTD 9 дней назад

      same

  • @alperen194
    @alperen194 20 дней назад +269

    Bro is going to put a Ryzen 9 one day in that xbox

    • @RemasteredStudios
      @RemasteredStudios 19 дней назад +6

      He needs a 100 watts to do that

    • @Ronetic_
      @Ronetic_ 19 дней назад

      @@RemasteredStudios have u heard of sarcasm also no shit sherlock

    • @XWXS2
      @XWXS2 19 дней назад +7

      and enables 4k with an build in hdmi port

    • @cyborgx_
      @cyborgx_ 19 дней назад +2

      😁

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT 19 дней назад +9

      I was wondering if a Socket 479 Pentium M or Core Solo could be made to work? I know a lot changed in regards to the FSB between Pentium 3 and Pentium M, though...
      Ideally, the *very* last 32-bit P6-derived single-core CPU: 2007's 65nm 1.83Ghz Celeron Embedded; Sossaman (Yonah derivative) Intel Celeron; 1.83 GHz, 1M Cache, 667Mhz FSB.

  • @BK2Modder
    @BK2Modder 19 дней назад +89

    Finally, always wondered why I never saw anyone using one if the interposer designs to not just upgrade the CPU but to install a socket for future easy swaps.
    Really appreciate you performing this mod and documenting the process as nicely as you did!

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  18 дней назад +25

      Its really just a matter of knowing your rework machine and adjusting the temps accordingly for the type of application you're working on.
      Thank you for the view and it was my pleasure.

  • @soulshinobi
    @soulshinobi 7 дней назад +13

    8:39 watching the solder wick up the socket legs was incredible.

  • @stephenr7424
    @stephenr7424 15 дней назад +23

    You have a very 90s style of narration to your videos. Double-dose of nostalgia, thank you!

  • @2.Plus.2.Equals.5
    @2.Plus.2.Equals.5 15 дней назад +19

    Any successful CPU interposer Xbox mod deserves a sub. Good stuff

  • @rezqiano
    @rezqiano 19 дней назад +36

    That smug face after telling us that the balls has been cleaned tho.... 🤣

  • @quattroclub
    @quattroclub 8 дней назад +4

    The solder flowing up the pins was so satisfying lol

  • @cromulence
    @cromulence 16 дней назад +30

    Insane. I really hope that the 256MB RAM mod can be made stable at 200MHz, or hopefully even higher. Both of these mods would open up so much on this machine. I’d imagine that whilst it’s not easy, it’d be totally possible to modify games and/or the OS to correctly utilise the extra RAM for the GPU - I imagine being able to play more games in 720p thanks to additional VRAM!

    • @atranimecs
      @atranimecs 15 дней назад +10

      Someone will find a way, problem is the game itself with need to be modded not just the bios

  • @Mareka6969
    @Mareka6969 18 дней назад +20

    Very nice, I like. It makes me happy that you guys are finally showing some game play clips at the end of the install.

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  18 дней назад +7

      Thanks. Amazingly enough, getting the game play footage together was the most time consuming part of creating the video.

    • @Mareka6969
      @Mareka6969 18 дней назад +4

      @@RetroRenegadeRepairs yeah, I bet. But it's what people look forward to, they want to see the results, especially after watching a long install. Again, good job.

  • @Johan.Larsson
    @Johan.Larsson 10 дней назад +24

    Digital foundry sent me here!

  • @user-gh7dq5hu7b
    @user-gh7dq5hu7b 10 дней назад +9

    Would love to see a collab with Digital Foundry if you can ship a modded Xbox to them!

  • @hugosimoes5119
    @hugosimoes5119 19 дней назад +21

    Cool! As long the CPU is properly cooled, it will never melt anything.

  • @Joostinonline
    @Joostinonline 10 дней назад +8

    Came here from Digital Foundry, absolutely amazing!

  • @Johnny_LuvBuckets
    @Johnny_LuvBuckets 19 дней назад +6

    Thank you kekule and frank for making these interposers and making this mod easier for more people to do it.

  • @plume...
    @plume... 10 дней назад +5

    Half-Life 2 was completely transformed! Also, seems The Matrix is GPU bound. Great video, thanks!

    • @ArtisaneSC2
      @ArtisaneSC2 6 дней назад +2

      Almost looked like a double buffer vsync type issue

  • @OneMore1UP
    @OneMore1UP 10 дней назад +14

    Digital Foundry sent be here!

  • @-PVL93-
    @-PVL93- 10 дней назад +8

    Digital Foundry raid, checking in

  • @ugzz
    @ugzz 10 дней назад +2

    Also here from DF.. This is fantastic, and i've already queued up the Duke and NES vids, and I see a ton in the back catalogue that interests me! Easy sub!

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 5 дней назад +1

    Bro you are living one of my dreams. I’ve long dreamed of buying all the gear needed to do mods like these. I could just never find a justification for it. You are awesome.

  • @ResidentXombie
    @ResidentXombie 19 дней назад +9

    Your work is amazing.

  • @shaneobrien5214
    @shaneobrien5214 7 дней назад +2

    Talk about an OG Xbox pro, that Tualitin chip is a game changer. Nice work, I personally hate soldering those capacitors my hands are not as steady as they once were.

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  7 дней назад +1

      I'm sure someone will come up with a better solution in the future that is a bit easier to align.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @stanosherkanor8416
    @stanosherkanor8416 9 дней назад

    You do amazing work. Thanks for sharing! Doing things I didn't think we're possible.

  • @AlexCatV12
    @AlexCatV12 7 дней назад +3

    Thanks for the outstanding work, masterpiece)
    Especially glad to see a difference between 733/1000/1400, looks amazing

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  7 дней назад +1

      While IMO you won't see many games take advantage, I think the emulators and homebrew would benefit the most from these types of upgrades.

  • @hosie01
    @hosie01 День назад +1

    Man, that's awesome. The possibilities just went higher on that thing 😁 I can't wait to see what developers come up with now that it can support a higher processor and ram

  • @SpicySpleen
    @SpicySpleen 14 дней назад +2

    sooo cool Love to see you upgrade the ram next! make the ultimate og xbox!

  • @dav1dbone
    @dav1dbone 11 дней назад +2

    Old Eddie from soldering class, he had the biggest solder balls in the business 😅

  • @JerroudiYassine
    @JerroudiYassine 10 дней назад +1

    This is one of the coolest things I've seen on youtube for a while

  • @ap894
    @ap894 7 дней назад +1

    lets go my dude, this is some serious throwback

  • @ChrisEbz
    @ChrisEbz 13 дней назад +1

    Awesome work! Kept seeing over and over comments that this wouldn't happen. Well then... Nice job. Now maybe some games that can be patched with high ram along with the faster cpu power.

  • @collegeatlas
    @collegeatlas 7 дней назад

    Your delivery is absolutely on point. Great content.

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue 12 дней назад

    Love your videos and your editing, and youre good on camera, well done

  • @Netbug
    @Netbug 7 дней назад +2

    You make everything look so easy.

  • @DanielCardei
    @DanielCardei 19 дней назад +4

    Impressive work. well done sir! 🤝

  • @LaMeGam
    @LaMeGam 19 дней назад +4

    Esto es jodidamente increíble. ¡Excelente trabajo.!

  • @jester17282
    @jester17282 22 часа назад +1

    I'm no scientist, but this looks like rocket scientry to me.

  • @nrabbit300
    @nrabbit300 8 дней назад +1

    Dude... you are probably one of the only people in the world that I can do this to but
    *bows in a very over-the-top asto royalty style*
    Good sir, I bestow on you the title of "Dude with a better X-Box than my own"
    I am fully impressed.. I had what at that point was the be-all end-all xbox... even had the ram and 1ghz cpu mod done
    but that was in the days prior to interposers.. apparantly theres a mod that lets you change the 8mb ram chips (via interposer) to 16mb modules as well!
    My old box (which was lost to a flood like 6ish years ago) was like my favorite techy toy, I even went to the effort of sourcing one of those Xecutor
    LCD boards that I had mounted to a little sort of ear that stood off the top right of the console that showed clock speeds, temps, and info regarded the current loaded
    game or whatever... I wish I still have pics.. all I have today is the little board you used to re-flash different bioses :| but, amazing work and I am glad to see there exists
    passion for such a wicked console, even though us enthusiasts are all old and shit now :P "Back in my days ... " ugh I hate aging >.<
    Peace XD

  • @CheezeWuz
    @CheezeWuz 5 часов назад

    Clearing off that socket was unbelievably satisfying

  • @urdnal
    @urdnal 13 дней назад

    Clever use of those caps along the edge of the inerposer. Interesting. Wish I had a use case to try it out.

  • @DIYDUDE012
    @DIYDUDE012 19 дней назад +3

    Dude you rule! Thank you for amazing content, much appreciated!

  • @HEADSHOTPROLOL
    @HEADSHOTPROLOL 9 дней назад +1

    Alex from DF sent me here, glad he did this is super cool and chill stuff :))

  • @repatch43
    @repatch43 11 дней назад

    Dude, this is bonkers! Love it!

  • @Theseanparker
    @Theseanparker 18 дней назад +2

    I love watching the BGA work!

  • @royhandy8365
    @royhandy8365 9 дней назад +1

    Legitimately one of the coolest videos I have seen on YT.

  • @mclovin2005
    @mclovin2005 День назад +1

    I would never try this but had a lot of fun watching you do it

  • @RyanKnowsTechStuff
    @RyanKnowsTechStuff 9 дней назад

    Great work and effort! Amazing!😊

  • @ane5227
    @ane5227 19 дней назад

    that is a very clever upgrade man!

  • @maneatingduck
    @maneatingduck 8 дней назад

    Your skill and confidence is amazing, with good presentation too :) Got here from DF, subscribed

  • @SpikeBlighty
    @SpikeBlighty 10 дней назад +1

    Beautiful work. You are an artisan.

  • @novafiddler1712
    @novafiddler1712 9 дней назад +7

    There was a company that used to do this mod back when the xbox 1 was relevant. Ive never seen it performed. Very skillful

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  8 дней назад +1

      Yea, Friendtech. I really wanted one of those consoles back in the day. Thanks for the compliments!

  • @shadowscarnage
    @shadowscarnage День назад +1

    The games run so smooth now.

  • @konstantine_c
    @konstantine_c 2 дня назад

    This is nuts! Very impressive work! Subscribed and will be checking out your other videos.

  • @josephperez2249
    @josephperez2249 19 дней назад +2

    Damn what an outstanding job, wepa.

  • @infamousxx
    @infamousxx 20 дней назад +1

    Love your work I miss my reflow station, I still solder once In a while

    • @jinxterx
      @jinxterx 16 дней назад

      You were one of the best and won't be forgotten.

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  16 дней назад +1

      Thanks. Never stop soldering!

  • @maxsioulas7794
    @maxsioulas7794 13 дней назад

    your a legend mate.... great work

  • @joellandry2406
    @joellandry2406 19 дней назад +1

    Another great video sir 👍🏻Minor nitpick, Alumi-tape is considerably more effective with an air gap between the components and itself.

  • @RetroCrisis
    @RetroCrisis 10 дней назад +1

    I love this mad science! Subbed!

  • @ImmaSpam__________________Can
    @ImmaSpam__________________Can 10 часов назад +1

    Its kinda amazing how far you can push the original Xbox to be completely honest, like the amount of actual hardware upgrades you can make to console is insane and the difference it makes (especially in half life 2) is crazy. It takes hl2 from "i guess it's playable", to, "yeah this is totally chromulent"

  • @milsvaard
    @milsvaard 10 дней назад +2

    Digital foundry recommended your channel, I subscribed.

  • @hanslandax721
    @hanslandax721 15 дней назад

    You're one talented individual my friend - a thousand kudos to you.

  • @joeAK7.62
    @joeAK7.62 10 часов назад

    wonderful stuff, you my friend are a living legend!🍾🍾🍾

  • @Diego-fc9ks
    @Diego-fc9ks 6 дней назад

    this Video makes me want to dig out my OG Xbox, Great stuff. ( Found this Gem through DF)

  • @MrQuist125
    @MrQuist125 19 дней назад +1

    Nice work sir. :)

  • @jeff15
    @jeff15 19 дней назад

    You make it look easy !!!. Looks amazing ❤🎉😊 fantastic job. New sub here.

  • @mentalplayground
    @mentalplayground 16 дней назад +1

    You made this process to look so easy.

  • @SoraSnake
    @SoraSnake 19 дней назад

    NICE WORK

  • @RazzettisRepair
    @RazzettisRepair 18 дней назад

    I've got to give this a shot now. The homebrew improvements alone have me super excited. If you have ran a test yet on HD video playback, I'd love to know the results! Also that work on the upgrade was just phenomenal. Had that CPU not been bad, I'm sure it would of worked first try!

  • @KB-du3rh
    @KB-du3rh 10 дней назад

    Digital Foundry squad here, awesome stuff! When those lads recommend something, you know it's gonna be good

  • @jsizzy3489
    @jsizzy3489 20 дней назад

    Would love to see how more games compare across the different CPUs. Feel like so many games would run smoother with this upgrade.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane 12 дней назад

      It's good to see the games scale nicely in terms of smoothness with more CPU power. I remember back in the early 90's playing Wing Commander on a 33Mhz 486DX and it ran smoothly. I then got a 150Mhz Pentium in 1997 and loaded it onto that and it ran like 4x speed and was impossible to play.

  • @user-jo7wk6qb8d
    @user-jo7wk6qb8d 14 дней назад

    These are rad mods love this channel !

  • @bluedistortions
    @bluedistortions 14 дней назад

    Ive always wanted to play half life 2 but never upgraded past the original xbox. This mod seems like the most practical way to go about it.

  • @dsmbilly3690
    @dsmbilly3690 8 дней назад

    Great content!

  • @piratelechuck1911
    @piratelechuck1911 11 дней назад

    These mods are so OG! I remember when the dream-x hit the scene it was next level. Now we have 256mb memory upgrades 🤓 Makes me want to hop back onto the scene again.

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco 6 дней назад

    Let the ball jokes commence.... LOL. Cool video! I wasn't aware this was even doable!

  • @SP-ny1fk
    @SP-ny1fk 5 дней назад

    Nice ball action!

  • @natr0n
    @natr0n 19 дней назад

    very professional work amazing really

  • @McTwistedTwisties
    @McTwistedTwisties 16 дней назад +1

    I think it would be so awesome to see a VIA chip in a Xbox.

  • @kevinpitts3548
    @kevinpitts3548 14 дней назад

    Yes! One of my favorite CPUs!

  • @SB-qm5wg
    @SB-qm5wg 19 дней назад

    Great work.

  • @mrburns366
    @mrburns366 14 часов назад

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should... But in this case you totally should.😂 Awesome work.

  • @bstram4363
    @bstram4363 9 дней назад

    Impressive work. Very Good.
    Can you do the PS3 Franken mod next?

  • @deanjohn9203
    @deanjohn9203 8 дней назад

    Wow! So the 2 XBOX's I have in the closet collecting dust can be upgraded to this!?!?!? Great work!!!

  • @raymondcortez5184
    @raymondcortez5184 7 дней назад

    Extremely sick video

  • @doctorgenesisx
    @doctorgenesisx 10 дней назад

    Whoa! Seeing Half-Life 2 running buttery smooth at 1.4 GHz is crazy!

  • @madmax2069
    @madmax2069 17 дней назад

    I always loved how solder pulls the components in line almost perfectly when it melts.
    You can never really apply too much flux......
    On the video results you should probably use some frame capture analyzer to show frame rates on the upgrades.

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  16 дней назад

      I also enjoy how the solder pulls the components in line. I've seen the same happen for ICs.

  • @hydralicmonkey6490
    @hydralicmonkey6490 День назад +1

    ABSOLUTELY BONKERS, YOU'RE A LEGEND!

  • @RDJ134
    @RDJ134 19 дней назад

    That is so awesome, thats some hard work but with a big pay off as end user :)

  • @ss3cookie140
    @ss3cookie140 9 дней назад

    Digital foundary sent me. Cool stuff man!

  • @ToadyEN
    @ToadyEN 9 дней назад

    DF sent me, new favourite channel!

  • @Aplayz42
    @Aplayz42 9 дней назад

    DF sent me here in the here & Now give us another vid with the extra ram interested to see a super pimped Xbox Alex @ DF already said he would like one can see a collab incoming only thing you were missing was the FPS numbers at the end great content!

  • @dave1the1deer1hunter
    @dave1the1deer1hunter 8 дней назад

    you read my mind dude. I was commented on another vid the other day where they put a p3 1000 on an xbox.

  • @Yusuq_Madeek
    @Yusuq_Madeek 8 дней назад

    Amazing!! Also this is the first video I've ever seen of you and I kept thinking you look like you're a funny guy but keeping more serious because of the subject at hand and then the balls comment just caught me by surprise 😂😂😂 Just wanted to say thank you I haven't physically lol'd in a really long time 😂😂 Just the way you looked at the camera and said it haha thanks again for the good laugh!

  • @coolstreetman
    @coolstreetman 3 дня назад

    Bro that's awesome!!!!!!

  • @naderz4064
    @naderz4064 10 часов назад

    i love your channel lol

  • @ChadDoebelin
    @ChadDoebelin 18 дней назад

    Dude you are awesome and like I said before make this look too easy.😮😅

  • @ebridgewater
    @ebridgewater 19 дней назад +2

    Would be lovely to have framerate readings for the capture footage.

  • @brandongoken8033
    @brandongoken8033 11 дней назад

    The 1.4ghz makes me want to play vintage video games that are overclocked with as much space and speed as they need.

  • @BringusStudios
    @BringusStudios 9 дней назад

    I've always wondered... Could you do the opposite? Take the CPU out of an Xbox and then fit it to a PC motherboard and use it on a PC?

    • @RetroRenegadeRepairs
      @RetroRenegadeRepairs  8 дней назад

      Yea, someone has done this recently.

    • @BringusStudios
      @BringusStudios 8 дней назад

      ​@@RetroRenegadeRepairs That's dope, is there a video or page I can check out to see that?

  • @HuGiv5
    @HuGiv5 10 дней назад +1

    Look at Half Life 2 finally playable 👀👀