AI generated art can't benefit from copyright, so that won't eliminate artist jobs altogether, it will just mean there will be fewer openings available. In order to be eligible for copyright, work needs to have some level of human work put into it. Artists can use AI to speed up their process, but if one were to try to generate an AI work and then copyright the AI generated work without putting in some of their own work, they would fail in that endeavor since AI generated work is considered public domain.
AI got nothing on you babe! Love your style. AI could NEVER. And as you pointed out, the consistency and emotion needed to create a full animation just isn’t there with AI.
It's a question of data and computational power. You may still insist that the true spark of emotion can only come from a conscious being but a machine will be able to fool all of us.
@@LarsRichterMedia Not to much. It can fool in a high way just an inexperienced newbie eye. By the way, it is still an awesome tool and I getting rid the fear and becoming excited to use those AI's on my creative process. We don't have to underestimate our capabilities, also, don't overestimate a machine.
@@kimerapolar I respect your opinion but you haven't convinced me of anything here. Give it time, money and data and these algorithms will fool more than just newbies.
through using --s 625 --c 0 and define an artistic style (like in the style of "famous artist") you can get a lot more concistent results - and with the new --test you get a lot better faces and details than before. using --sameseed 'number' will also give you more consistent versions between the redo's - so there is a lot one can do. Imo. AI is amazing and exciting - I'm see a lot of amazing opertuneties from it, rather than a problem. if it can enhance art, then that is amazing :)
When you can train the AI will be the key. Right now, you just give it words, and it looks through its database of millions of pictures to find what you want. You should wait until you can show it the art you want to make.
I think AI will develop exponentially. It’s a clumsy tool now, but so was early digital animation software. Before we know it, real AI movies will be standard fare. Artists of all kinds will still be needed to run, manage and troubleshoot the AI, but AI will be pretty much everywhere. Much as cellphones suddenly appeared and became standard, and Photoshop appeared and became standard, it looks like AI programs will too.
Ai can never replace human skill. On a positive note, one can learn the new tech to upgrade themselves which gives them a better edge over traditional way. Scary for those artist who do not adapt
Thank you for your comment!! I can see how the title can be confusing, but my thought process was incoorporating AI in the process of making an animated film/the animation industry pipeline, not “animating” per se. But again thank you for pointing it out :)
When it comes to Uncanny Valley, I don't believe in a slope leading up to the other side where humans are. Where machines are concerned, I believe it's an unclimbable cliff. Squirrels tho... 👽
How come? I'm curious! I recently got access to Dall-E 2, and will be playing with it soon, and I know that platform is WAY better than midjourney. But do you know of any ways how Midjourney has improved?
Marcel's style influence = Hanna Barbera (Flintstones) A.I. style influence = Tim Burton (Nightmare) Sidepoint: mimes and clowns are not a pop cultural thing. Nightmare clowns are. May show the A.I.'s limits and bias of cultural reference. It's also interesting to study from a perspective of the existence of style and persistence. There is no persistence in the A.I. yet (AFAIK) - but that can easily change. All the A.I. has to do to simulate human persistence (i.e. purpose but not genuine) is to study itself and "iconize" the style. Once it does that it will not produce the weird flyers. And it's already doing something like that. It's just not as "determined" as human beings are. Also interesting is the fact that this is the first "taste" of it being emergent and not a slave. You may guide the selection of an iconized / persistent style, but that is no longer slavery - it's a collaboration. You become its equal when it argues with you ...
Ai is in the Prehistoric Stage now, in a few years will be combined with designers software, then things will be very different and everything will be possible.... thats my opinion. Less jobs for designers ? same for all professions and jobs
@@sancho5198 I only tried Dall-E and Stable Diffusion and typed in character design sheet. I did write a dog in style of Disney in some prompts but they ended up looking creepy.
@@ElzLandeLV yeah, difficult to instruct, but possible. Try dalle prompt book, SD's lexica or MD's community feed for prompt generations with examples of style and look
Maybe add "character design of..." Because it seems like you looking for a particular art style... Adding the art style be it "concept art" "digital drawing" could help
Glad to hear you're inspired and not scared haha! Since I constantly go back and forth between terrified and okay 🙏😂 It can definitely be a good tool, but there's still something that feels off about it for me, and the whole ethics conversation is another thing..
I understand that you can appreciate the products of AI as a work of art, but that is only because you embed the ai-generated image with your human emotion. This look, this human capacity, is what makes it an artistic experience, not AI. Strictly speaking, AI cannot positively generate art because it doesn´t understand emotion (as Marcel correctly pointed out in the video); and that is what art is all about: expression. AI-generated images are made by the automation of putting pixels together with abstract mathematical functions. The final product might look the same but the actual becoming of the human-made piece of art is way beyond, a whole universe away, from what AI is doing. I really think there is no point in comparison.
@@MarcelSaletaconsidering AI is a computer learning program it always looks for the common demoniater to look at the angry world of today -I am not surprised it fetches those images.
So you have to go with more detail and you also have to go with singularity one character at a time and it's a trial and error it takes effort and it takes time to get what you want you don't just get it right away you slowly develop what you're looking for a new change the prompts as you go manipulating them until you get what you want
Yes, since then Midjourney has done multiple updates! And now is better at rendering faces and styles! So, I agree with you! Might try it again sometime soon :)
@@MarcelSaleta I'm also an artist so I feel the pressure when new technology like this comes out, but I survived Deluxe Paint, then Photoshop, so I think AI art will be just another situation like that :) A tool to make some artists better, but maybe some artists will be obsolete. But I plan to be the kind who masters the tool.
@@MarcelSaleta Oh wow ok, so its pretty much out of reach for myself. I have a question, do you do freelance work in this field? I understand its a timely business but I love how it looks and am interested.. If not would you be able to refer anyone? Thank you for your time.
AI is gonna change the industry and careers in a way we have just barely imagined. This thing is pretty new and it's really catching on pretty quickly I have to say. Within 10 years the tools available to artists will be amazing. Some people or artists will be look at it negatively, while others will see in a positive light. There's is no doubt in my view that AI will be a reality sooner rather that later, and artists will have to adapt to this new technology, or they will simply be left behind. After all, it was only but 30 years ago, that desktop publishing completely revolutionized the industry, creating brand new technologies and working environments in it's path while at the same time killing off long standing industries when the transition was finally done and over with. Tighten your seat belts... It's gonna be a fast, bumpy ride!
Unfortunately, Ai will never have a computational network like an organic brain as it can not think for itself, it just works on human instructions. I have been using Dall e 2 for a month now and it's crap, it can help you reimagine and develop concepts but cannot only restrict your power of imagination but also steer your creative wheel of imagination to a different set of ideas you weren't working/ looking for. which ultimately can help one in long run but also distracts from the actual workflow.
I really hope so! The uncertainty is still stressfull haha, but I’d like to believe that us humans, like you say, understand social nuances in ways a machine will never be able too, so fingers crossed!!
Hi! Thank you. Keep in mind tho this was 7 months ago, AI has exponentially gotten better! I did a follow up video to this one in case you’re interested in seeing the comparisson :)
If ai can create animation it can do basically anything software engineer would be gone ai engineer will also be gone lawyers would be gone we won't need anything because animation is most human thing to do emotion it has become agi 🤡 that means no jobs no work no money no politician Every work will done by it do not fear 🤡
AI art is a huge insult to all creations not just arts. It cannot replace human because it lacks a lot of basic fundamentals. Stop promoting this ai art that does not create a real work only insulting it. It is just a fake cheap imitation of arts, the result is obviously horrible since it lacks knowing what it tries to draw or understand what it is and how it works. Real decent art came from a being that know what they are drawing and have a judgement and understanding of law of nature as well as knowing which is right and wrong. You guys only insulting everything creation by praising such terrible and the most insulting thing made for centuries ever and beyond
@Marcel Saleta Didn't exist? Nah is better to know how crap it is. I don't mind it exist it just doesn't deserve the money and support how these corporations showing off their incompetence laziness for using it
Technology scientist these days have failed to make a selfless car to drive as good as humans, failed to make robot dog that can compete with real dogs in competition, and now they never count the number of their failure rate which is 100%. Now for some reasons, they trying to compete human in art which is the most complex human activity of all time and you can imagine the result...
Let's see how r the results there in year 2050 ...2100...haha it's just a matter of time for AI to laugh at ur "art". Recall the year 2007 when steve jobs launched the first iphone...look at AI then and now. Yeah, thats what I'm talking about Babe.
I want to try AI for some things that will be useful. I have some thing in my mind I want to see if it is realy useful in some way. .. Please reply.. We can discuss it over whatsApp. Please give your email. Thank you. It will be nice to see your reply. And.. I like your videos... Awesome work. Thanks
What are your thoughts on AI? Lmk!!😅
AI generated art can't benefit from copyright, so that won't eliminate artist jobs altogether, it will just mean there will be fewer openings available. In order to be eligible for copyright, work needs to have some level of human work put into it. Artists can use AI to speed up their process, but if one were to try to generate an AI work and then copyright the AI generated work without putting in some of their own work, they would fail in that endeavor since AI generated work is considered public domain.
'It's kinda ugly, but I really like it'....is literally how everyone speaks about me. This was a journey.
lmao!! glad to hear it was a journey!!
Dall-e really likes making everything uncanny, would be interesting to use this as reference!
If I ever get access to it I’ll make another vid!
Just here for the comic book snippets in the examples ✌🏽. Also #TeamMarcel, screw Skynet.
AI got nothing on you babe! Love your style. AI could NEVER. And as you pointed out, the consistency and emotion needed to create a full animation just isn’t there with AI.
It's a question of data and computational power. You may still insist that the true spark of emotion can only come from a conscious being but a machine will be able to fool all of us.
@@LarsRichterMedia Not to much. It can fool in a high way just an inexperienced newbie eye. By the way, it is still an awesome tool and I getting rid the fear and becoming excited to use those AI's on my creative process. We don't have to underestimate our capabilities, also, don't overestimate a machine.
@@kimerapolar I respect your opinion but you haven't convinced me of anything here. Give it time, money and data and these algorithms will fool more than just newbies.
This comment aged like milk
through using --s 625 --c 0 and define an artistic style (like in the style of "famous artist") you can get a lot more concistent results - and with the new --test you get a lot better faces and details than before. using --sameseed 'number' will also give you more consistent versions between the redo's - so there is a lot one can do. Imo. AI is amazing and exciting - I'm see a lot of amazing opertuneties from it, rather than a problem. if it can enhance art, then that is amazing :)
Thanks for the tips! :)
When you can train the AI will be the key. Right now, you just give it words, and it looks through its database of millions of pictures to find what you want. You should wait until you can show it the art you want to make.
aw the conclusion of emotions is so nice
Gotta keep it cheesy!
That short AI animation was gorgeous.
thank youu!!
that clip you showed is totally awesome.
my kid would love to be able to do this. they love stories.
Ahh, thank you! Glad you like it :)
Ohh I loved this One ! That AI animation is very cool. But i like your animation more than AI made. 🤣🤣
thank you, let's say they are very different and unique in their own way! LOL
wow the clowns are fire. the first one is so good
I think AI will develop exponentially. It’s a clumsy tool now, but so was early digital animation software. Before we know it, real AI movies will be standard fare.
Artists of all kinds will still be needed to run, manage and troubleshoot the AI, but AI will be pretty much everywhere. Much as cellphones suddenly appeared and became standard, and Photoshop appeared and became standard, it looks like AI programs will too.
You only have a thousand subscribers? your content is so good and the channel is so underrated
I truly appreaciate this, thanks :)
Ai can never replace human skill. On a positive note, one can learn the new tech to upgrade themselves which gives them a better edge over traditional way. Scary for those artist who do not adapt
I agree and hope that’s the case!!
It was a fascinating theme and I love the way you explained and developed it. 👏 great job
Hey! Thanksss :)
Thank you so much for your work and dedication. The title of this video shouldn't be "animation" tho; just character design.
Thank you for your comment!! I can see how the title can be confusing, but my thought process was incoorporating AI in the process of making an animated film/the animation industry pipeline, not “animating” per se. But again thank you for pointing it out :)
When it comes to Uncanny Valley, I don't believe in a slope leading up to the other side where humans are. Where machines are concerned, I believe it's an unclimbable cliff.
Squirrels tho... 👽
Lmao, yes squirrels.
LOLLLL THE FINAL ANIMATION IM SCREAMING
ooohhhhh
The AI has moved sooooo much more advanced than that in less than a month
How come? I'm curious! I recently got access to Dall-E 2, and will be playing with it soon, and I know that platform is WAY better than midjourney. But do you know of any ways how Midjourney has improved?
Nice Video. ❤️❤️ Love the Animation.. looking forward to see more videos. 😅😅
I suggest to put English subtitles to gain more reach.
I thought it did! but will do, thanks!
Ai can’t get even close to real talent! 👨🏻🎨♥️✨
For now
Stop blabbering mf try midjourney for your self it will open your eyes
Well yeah this technology is super new so
@@michaelwarner7311 try midjourney
@@flynntaggart7216 I have what's your point
Humans are still better but using ai to simplify the process or get ideas is a thing we might see
That’s what I’d like to believe! Use AI as a -tool- to simplify things!!
5 months ago 🙃 VS 5 months later... 🤩
Yup, 5 months have made a huge difference!
LOL! That's some good sarcasm!
😝😝
Marcel's style influence = Hanna Barbera (Flintstones)
A.I. style influence = Tim Burton (Nightmare)
Sidepoint: mimes and clowns are not a pop cultural thing. Nightmare clowns are. May show the A.I.'s limits and bias of cultural reference.
It's also interesting to study from a perspective of the existence of style and persistence. There is no persistence in the A.I. yet (AFAIK) - but that can easily change. All the A.I. has to do to simulate human persistence (i.e. purpose but not genuine) is to study itself and "iconize" the style. Once it does that it will not produce the weird flyers. And it's already doing something like that. It's just not as "determined" as human beings are.
Also interesting is the fact that this is the first "taste" of it being emergent and not a slave. You may guide the selection of an iconized / persistent style, but that is no longer slavery - it's a collaboration. You become its equal when it argues with you ...
This is a solid point, clowns have a bad rep in pop culture! Haha. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, very interesting.
Ya there’s a skill to prompting I’ll tell you that
Ai is in the Prehistoric Stage now, in a few years will be combined with designers software, then things will be very different and everything will be possible.... thats my opinion.
Less jobs for designers ? same for all professions and jobs
Oh I agree with you! It’s just scaryy overall haha
I tried asking ai to do cartoon characters, I don't think it's very good at them specifically.
Yeah, midjourney isn’t great at it lol. Dall-E might be better with cartoons, but I still have to test it!
Did u use artists names and styles? Midjourney can produce awesome cartoon characters
@@sancho5198 I only tried Dall-E and Stable Diffusion and typed in character design sheet. I did write a dog in style of Disney in some prompts but they ended up looking creepy.
@@ElzLandeLV yeah, difficult to instruct, but possible. Try dalle prompt book, SD's lexica or MD's community feed for prompt generations with examples of style and look
@@ElzLandeLV and don't forget artists' names, you can dramatically change the style of output
Maybe add "character design of..." Because it seems like you looking for a particular art style... Adding the art style be it "concept art" "digital drawing" could help
I do hate hearing people say that ai is not art. But it is what you can do with Ai that makes it art. Thank you for sharing. I'm inspired.
Glad to hear you're inspired and not scared haha! Since I constantly go back and forth between terrified and okay 🙏😂 It can definitely be a good tool, but there's still something that feels off about it for me, and the whole ethics conversation is another thing..
I understand that you can appreciate the products of AI as a work of art, but that is only because you embed the ai-generated image with your human emotion. This look, this human capacity, is what makes it an artistic experience, not AI. Strictly speaking, AI cannot positively generate art because it doesn´t understand emotion (as Marcel correctly pointed out in the video); and that is what art is all about: expression. AI-generated images are made by the automation of putting pixels together with abstract mathematical functions. The final product might look the same but the actual becoming of the human-made piece of art is way beyond, a whole universe away, from what AI is doing. I really think there is no point in comparison.
Good stuff Marcel. I am interested to see how you would animate stuff with these images. Would be helpful if you could make a video on that 🙂
Thank youu! Will definitely consider that for a future video! :)
@@MarcelSaleta I would love to see how you did it too. Thanks.
@@MarcelSaleta Eagerly waiting for this video🙈😄 Already subscribed to 🔔 icon, to not miss the notification 🤭
May i know how you moved the characters at the end of the video ?
Thanks 🙏🏽
Hi! I animated it using Adobe After Effects!
How did you animate it?
I used Adobe After Effects to animate it
wow i love this video omg
All I did was laugh the whole video😂😂😂😂😂 AI still has a long way to go
All the game change if you use an image as an input , then the A.I. and you start to speak the same language.
PICASSO STYLE OMG
One thing I don't understand is why AI mostly comes up with satanic faces
Yuppp, I wonder the same thing. I heard it has improved with recent updates tho!
@@MarcelSaletaconsidering AI is a computer learning program it always looks for the common demoniater to look at the angry world of today -I am not surprised it fetches those images.
That AI animation legit has vimeo staff pick potential 😅
Omg well thanks! Let’s say it was a collab between me and Midjourney lol 😂
Love it! Amazing content♥️♥️
Thank you!! ✨
Did you use version 3 or v4 because 4 would be better
This was almost 5 months ago haha, so I think this was Version 2… 😅😅 i know Midjourney has come a long way since then! Testing it again soon! :)
So you have to go with more detail and you also have to go with singularity one character at a time and it's a trial and error it takes effort and it takes time to get what you want you don't just get it right away you slowly develop what you're looking for a new change the prompts as you go manipulating them until you get what you want
I thought you had 447 thousand subscribers not 447! your videos are really well made you are going to blow up with some more work,
this literally made my day! haha thank you so much!
09:00 i stop the video for laughing out loud :D
LOL those lovely clowns huh!?
Three months is a long time. Unfortunately, I think AI has come such a long way since this video that current versions would do much much better.
Yes, since then Midjourney has done multiple updates! And now is better at rendering faces and styles! So, I agree with you! Might try it again sometime soon :)
@@MarcelSaleta I'm also an artist so I feel the pressure when new technology like this comes out, but I survived Deluxe Paint, then Photoshop, so I think AI art will be just another situation like that :) A tool to make some artists better, but maybe some artists will be obsolete. But I plan to be the kind who masters the tool.
you work so hard
Just because a tool has been created; doesn’t necessarily mean the end of creators.
You are awesome bro 🔥
How do you animate still photos to move?
I separated the different elements on different layers using photoshop and then animated everything in After Effects.
@@MarcelSaleta Oh wow ok, so its pretty much out of reach for myself. I have a question, do you do freelance work in this field? I understand its a timely business but I love how it looks and am interested.. If not would you be able to refer anyone? Thank you for your time.
How do you get the ai art to be animated or what apps? I want it to be looped pretty much
AI is gonna change the industry and careers in a way we have just barely imagined. This thing is pretty new and it's really catching on pretty quickly I have to say. Within 10 years the tools available to artists will be amazing. Some people or artists will be look at it negatively, while others will see in a positive light. There's is no doubt in my view that AI will be a reality sooner rather that later, and artists will have to adapt to this new technology, or they will simply be left behind. After all, it was only but 30 years ago, that desktop publishing completely revolutionized the industry, creating brand new technologies and working environments in it's path while at the same time killing off long standing industries when the transition was finally done and over with. Tighten your seat belts... It's gonna be a fast, bumpy ride!
super interesting
Very interesting!
Thank you!
this ai is really good for realistic or paintings style
Unfortunately, Ai will never have a computational network like an organic brain as it can not think for itself, it just works on human instructions.
I have been using Dall e 2 for a month now and it's crap, it can help you reimagine and develop concepts but cannot only restrict your power of imagination but also steer your creative wheel of imagination to a different set of ideas you weren't working/ looking for. which ultimately can help one in long run but also distracts from the actual workflow.
This is some good insight. Thank you for sharing!!
Yours was so cute and AI's version was really crappy and definitely creepy looking.
ai vs marcel i can tell marcel won but u choose ai
Yeah A.I. definitely won 🤣🤣
Wow
Omg scared indeed 😊
Also 9:00.. it’s mine. It’s my nightmare.
Ooops!! 😂
I like yours the best.
Thank you, glad you do! :)
02:15 - Character design
06:32 - Concept art
10:33 - Background design
On my smartphone?
I'm just getting into AI and so far it's weird lol.
It can be very weird!!
Your's better, and AI is starting.
Thank you! And yes, AI is just getting started!
Definitely i don't like the Artificial Intelligence
dali 2 is better with cartoon styles
I did a newer video testing Midjourney 6 months later, the results were way better now, check it out! :)
No, artists won't lose their jobs. Human social and commercial dynamics is more nuanced than the binary conclusion that AI will automate everything.
I really hope so! The uncertainty is still stressfull haha, but I’d like to believe that us humans, like you say, understand social nuances in ways a machine will never be able too, so fingers crossed!!
You are way better but perhaps we also need to learn how to use the IA properly. It needs more detailed description.
Hi! Thank you. Keep in mind tho this was 7 months ago, AI has exponentially gotten better! I did a follow up video to this one in case you’re interested in seeing the comparisson :)
If ai can create animation it can do basically anything software engineer would be gone ai engineer will also be gone lawyers would be gone we won't need anything because animation is most human thing to do emotion it has become agi 🤡 that means no jobs no work no money no politician
Every work will done by it do not fear 🤡
Ai is cursed
Y
Yours is better.
Do artists even have jobs?
if you don't know how to use a new tool don't use it
AI art is a huge insult to all creations not just arts. It cannot replace human because it lacks a lot of basic fundamentals.
Stop promoting this ai art that does not create a real work only insulting it. It is just a fake cheap imitation of arts, the result is obviously horrible since it lacks knowing what it tries to draw or understand what it is and how it works.
Real decent art came from a being that know what they are drawing and have a judgement and understanding of law of nature as well as knowing which is right and wrong.
You guys only insulting everything creation by praising such terrible and the most insulting thing made for centuries ever and beyond
I share your sentiment my friend, I am not praising AI art, I have a lot of conflicting emotions about it as well and wish it didn’t exist :)
@Marcel Saleta Didn't exist? Nah is better to know how crap it is. I don't mind it exist it just doesn't deserve the money and support how these corporations showing off their incompetence laziness for using it
Technology scientist these days have failed to make a selfless car to drive as good as humans, failed to make robot dog that can compete with real dogs in competition, and now they never count the number of their failure rate which is 100%. Now for some reasons, they trying to compete human in art which is the most complex human activity of all time and you can imagine the result...
Let's see how r the results there in year 2050 ...2100...haha it's just a matter of time for AI to laugh at ur "art".
Recall the year 2007 when steve jobs launched the first iphone...look at AI then and now. Yeah, thats what I'm talking about Babe.
Come on dude, your art was way better than the AI. But to be honest...us real artists are screwed. But animators with a 2d traditional style are safe.
Thank you! And maybe??? I don't who's going to be safe at this point. I think we're just gonna have to wait and see how all this unfolds!
I want to try AI for some things that will be useful. I have some thing in my mind I want to see if it is realy useful in some way. .. Please reply.. We can discuss it over whatsApp. Please give your email. Thank you. It will be nice to see your reply. And.. I like your videos... Awesome work. Thanks