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This is the classic Jazza videos I love. No skits, just Jazza trying an art tool he’s never used before, struggling through it and ultimately making something awesome. He’s such a great generalist and it’s these type of videos that inspire you to try new creative tools. I really hope this video performs well so we can see more like this!
This
Yup 👍
Absolutely! Also, remember WET?😂
Some people can't accept change, it's odd human nature. I personally like the whole package of Jazza studios and I've been watching him since his 1st one.
@@Kanoog Weird indeed, especially when you can clearly see that unfortunately the “OG” videos don’t generate views as it used to, therefore he needs the videos that make more views too.
Lots of people bragging about this program.
I respect Jazza's opinion when it comes to animation.
He made some of the first animation tutorials I ever watched.
To people who remember this, WET!!! 😂😂😂
Use toonsquid
Procreate is amazing and it’s mainly for art but they’ve been adding some animation updates
I'd love to see Jazza try "doing the same animation in different programs/apps" challenge lol. This really takes me back to the good ol' Jazza, you're still THE animation youtuber in my eyes!
OMG YESS!! Came to comment this! I would looove to see that too
I'm an animator. Procreate dreams is not what it was advertised to be. I needs work, but it has potential. I truthfully prefer regular procreate for animating, so there's a problem.
Same! I prefer regular Procreate for animation too
Procreate Dreams sucks.. maybe in the future they will make it right.
What is the best workflow for using procreate as an animation software compared to something like dreams?
No lasso tool :( pain
I picked up because I believe it will improve. For the price it’s a no-brained for me. Already have procreate but I like what this company is doing. Subscription models are bullshit and I’m glad this company agrees.
This is the Jazza video that I was hooked on so much to. Australian artist guy who tries new stuff, throws away the instructions, says adult jokes but quickly remembers it is supposed to be a family friendly channel and through many tries and failures gives us the masterpiece at the end. Missed this so much❤
The stickman animation was the best! More stickmen animations please, they are my favourite Jazza videos !!
Jazz was behind stickam!!?? Dude that was my childhood all I did was play on stickam
I love that Jazza has kinda become one of the go-to art grandpa advisors over the years. I also love the critique of Procreate and how they just don't explain anything. I can't tell you how many times I've had to look up basic things like gradients or how the snap-to function works/shortcuts. They're great for easier-to-access versatile art tools and are beloved for a reason, but there's a lot they just don't make clear. Great if you already know, not too great if you're new to the program.
GRANDPA? He doesn’t look all that old, I’d think of him as an uncle. I agree with you though. Procreate dreams has so many things that I just don’t understand why they didn’t include or do better. For some cases, animation assist in procreate is better than their whole animation app
I definitely started to enjoy it way more once I had a better grasp on a lot of the mechanics. The main flaw I see with it is the learning curve is hella steep.
@@SaturnDahlia Haha, sorry. I meant 'Grandpa' as in "been around the block, has been here since the beginnings of the internet art world" and not at all in a mean way. He's kinda been a pivotal figure that everyone in the art sphere online respects the opinions of because he's been one of the prominent voices leading artists starting out. 😅
To be fair, photoshop also doesn’t explain anything. Programs like this have a very steep learning curve just because of what they are. They’re so packed with features that it’s hard to just come right out and say it.
Grampa…
I love the nonscripted Jazza humor. Like, when he's just reacting to stuff on the spot: comedy gold
Agreed he’s genuinely curious and humorous and expressive 😂
I found that most people who found it hard to navigate in the program all said "but it's really affordable" which is a true but a bit unfair given that even the limited tools have little to no explanation. Once you push through the constant frustration you can free your mind experimenting with all sorts of stuff though. :)
I guess they couldn't call the tracks layers because in each cell you can have multiple layers.
If devs see this by any chance, please give us horizontal flip to check symmetry and lasso tool 😁
it's also not a good point bc toonsquid it's half the price and has very clear ui 😂
@@nikkim7038 Toonsquid is an ipad app?
Yes toonsquid is better
I’m dying out here without that sweet sweet lasso tool 🥲
@@nikkim7038we don’t remember what happened with toonsquid in 99 then? About any of their *minor* problems?
Jazza I can see you were having a ball and created a striking result 😁
Boo! 👍
😊
8:02 You can probably open the Files app in ‘Slide over’ or split screen mode-which means both apps are visible at the same time-and preview your sounds in the files app and even drag them over from there. Tap on the three dots at the top of any screen from any app to select slide over or any of the other multi tasking options.
My thoughts exactly.
What about multi frame clipping mask
I love how jazza just becomes a 12 year old himself while animating stick figurines with blood, its so sweet and very nostalgic to see haha!
I adore that the ball randomly attacks the stick figure after it stopped. ❤
I still remember seeing your animation videos to help me pass my animation classes in community college, never tank you for that. Well better late then never thanks
I think their strongest asset is the flip-book and action mode and if they approached it as layered flip-books; meaning you could apply a mask to a group essentially, then animate that group in real-time... that should be their focus. Even the artists who did inspirational work for the program all eventually did the bulk of their work in flip-book mode. It isn't meant to be an editing software it is meant to be a animation software for digital artists who use traditional methods of art, ya know? Even Procreate is more Fresco than it is Photoshop. They added some editing tools but they shouldn't try and compete with actual editing software. It is like they tried to do both and both suffered for it. Dreams has a really steep learning curve at the moment even with video tutorials. They need to pick a direction and method and stick to it. They also need to integrate more of their original Procreate into it to complete the tech eco-system. You should send them your nit-picks, they are very open to receiving feedback from the public, especially influential professionals such as yourself. Aaron Blaise is one of my favorites, I had no idea he did the Penguin animation.
I agree that they should add some of the Procreate features into Dreams, I struggled a lot without the lasso tool when using the program, and it’s just kind of hard to use for me, even with tutorials.
But they can't because of their useless 1millions x 1millions pixel big layout.
I like this kind of chill video without a lot of postprod or cuts, where you discover a new "medium". And the stick figures are always so funny
I mainly use Dreams for making the animatic and editing, the actual animation is easier to do in Procreate! You can transfer the animation file from Procreate to Procreate Dreams by having the two programs in the same window and just dragging the file to the timeline. Just make sure the projects are in the same framerate so you don't have to do extra work when adjusting the frames!
I found this to be easier to do as well!
Yeah, I use procreate and procreate dreams looks quite.. complicated.
@@defokochuhey, I haven’t used procreate before and now I wanna start making animation. So, I wanna ask would I be able to make longer videos in the application? There’s less information available on web and I’m not convinced with the answers there.
@@MyBallzInYourJawsyes but there is a frame limit depending on your device. Ppl have gotten around that by breaking up their animation into groups (if that makes sense) and editing them together.
@@Blartzooka I guess that would work in iPad pro
When you mentioned Stick figures and blood being good training, I had to agree, especially about the fluid part, it rlly helps you get how physics act
0:38
That animation is so underrated
true
underrated by who?
@@Kanoog
It doesn't have as many views as it deserves
I’ve been following Jazza for over 10 years, since my student days. I even spent my pocket money on one of his early tutorials, the only one I ever bought from a RUclipsr. Now, as an adult, I’ve returned to drawing after a 7-year break due to a career pivot. Today, I started using Procreate to draw and animate my artistic expressions again. It's amazing to see Jazza with 6.5 million subscribers, still motivating me to get started.
Finally!! A properly used and reviewed video. listed out so many features the dreams needs. Like real time playback in the flipbook mode, or the audio preview before importing, etc.... I love the app, just want it to get better and these features that jazza explained would definitely make this better.
Awesome review, Thanks Jazzaaaa!!!!!
You've convinced me. I heard bad reviews for procreate dream but I don't want to buy a computer AND a tablet when I already have an Ipad.
Not necessarily. If you have a laptop or desktop, you can use apps like EasyCanvas and Astropad to connect to your device to use your iPad like a drawing tablet. I've had a blast doing so with Zbrush and Blender, but ever since switching to Linux... 🥲 they're mainly supported on Macs and Windows
At least you have an iPad mine realme pad x😂
If you want a really good animation app, I suggest ToonSquid. The interface is easier to grasp and keyframing is much easier.
Highly recommend.
1:20 This animation is so magical 🤩✨
I love Procreate, but I agree, it's got a learning curve and this looks like the curve is even bigger. I still want to try it out, though. This was a good in-depth review, because it acknowledged what I was concerned about, but the problems you had with it weren't insurmountable.
I've used Animate, Krita, TVPaint, Maya, Blender and Spine and have dabbled in Harmony, but I just couldn't get myself over the initial hurdle of learning how to used Procreate Dreams. This may be because I don't have as much time to animate now that I'm no longer a student, but I just found that getting started with this app can be very frustrating. This frustration shows in your video, but as expected from a Jazza video - you pull through.
Great video overall. This is an instant Jazza classic.
Why does no one know about toonsquid?
@@gottafindacoolname There are countless animation apps out there. Have you heard of Synfig Studio? How about OpenToons? Have you ever tried Looom?
I also didn't mention I've used Callipeg here and there. ToonSquid's UI reminds me of Callipeg quite a bit.
@@gottafindacoolname i was looking for a toonsquid comment too, lol
@@gottafindacoolname bc its not as popular, keep telling people about it though !! i've been scrolling looking for a toonsquid comment too 😭😭😭😭
Excellent animations, Jazza! Hope you do more! 😊
I've tried a handful of other iPad animation apps and always ran into problems of limitations; like limited frame count, some not supporting sound, and no camera features. Once I saw the trailers for Procreate Dreams, I was beyond excited, especially with unlimited amount of brushes, camera functions, sound editing, and some compositing. Not gonna lie, when the reviews came in, I was a bit disappointed. The biggest misses for me was no selection tool and the inability to export a GIF. However, the feeling of Procreate Dreams does feel very organic and smooth, like animating on paper.
Luckily the developers of Procreate always listen to feedback and frequently updates the app. So it may not be perfect now, but it could become the best iPad animation app in the future. Could take some time, but I'm looking forward to it!
OMG Jazza hasn’t popped up on my feed in months. Last time he was burned out. So it’s really good to see him again and making some classic content!!
Happy to see he is still on the platform
You really need to make more videos like this, where you’re just having fun and not trying to be over the top & make big gimmicky projects all the time. This reminds me of the old videos that got me into your channel 🤘
Wow I remember watching Jazza for my first animated cc tutorials, and now another new program has been released we’re back! Love how it’s always his first time and he displays excitement, confusion and ultimately able to figure it out at the end. It’s really great!
Thanks for finally trying this Jazza! I had the exact same feeling in my process of using Dreams, would love to potentially see more animation challenges on the channel in the future!
Ahh, the "Tale Teller"- Oh how I cried. Thank you for a great video - once again you inspire us to create=3
The interface frustrates me enough that I dont want to use it at all. Too many things are hidden that should be front and center. Its a shame, because it the performance feature is nice. But the design choices, unfortunately, make this unusable for me.
To be fair its an ipad. You have to do some things different... that being said they could just have different workspaces and customisable ones -.-
@@ShockingPikachu The "its an ipad app" doesn't really hold water when apps like toonsquid exist and do a much better job with their interfaces.
@@gmcubed good to see you just completely disregarded the other half of my comment.
@@ShockingPikachu ? I disregarded nothing, I don't disagree, I just had nothing to add to that.
That's just how Apple does things, and since they're stuck on an Apple platform, Procreate is just following the framework they're given.
All of Mac OS X and iOS is confusing and hidden in hundreds of menus. They put all their time into making a pretty UI they forget to make a practical UX. The window management on Mac is probably the worst part.
Procreate is dropping the ball just like Apple and most Mac/iOS software does.
Animation is so tiring but so rewarding🙌🏼
Agreed, I hated doing animation before, so tedious. However with Dreams it is more like animating from an artists POV rather than an animator's or editor's POV and there are some additional editing tools if you need them. It still has a long way to go but so far so good.
Takes me back to the og jazza videos. Such a throwback 😊
Thank you, Jazza! I really wanted to see how this program worked before downloading! 😊
I love it when Jazza does animation and kind of showing how he does everything ❤
Oh, my goodness. You made me laugh so much. Keep these videos coming. I just discovered you because my 9-year-old grandson wants to get into digital art, animation, etc. I'm an artist, so I am making it a point to ensure his success and do whatever I can to fuel his interest and creative juices. My dad was an artist who loved it and could make a good living at it after having three kids. I'm exploring another medium for my art and subject matter, but.. hmmm, my brain is spinning with ideas on how to utilize this for myself. The 9-year-old is my main focus, and your personality, talent, humor, and being genuine will be good for him.
There are for sure better ways to get around some of the issues you were having. Like, I'm sure you could've done a split screen with the files app so that you could listen to your audio files and then drag and drop the ones you wanted.
yeah basic OS things. Can even just hold down on the file and get the option to play it.
It’s so amazing to see you come back to animation, Jazza!
toonsquid just knocked it off the block
fr toonsquid it's so good, the fact it was made by just one dude it's insane
Toonsquid is amazing
@@nikkim7038 when you take out the greed of wallstreet execs, and put it in the hands of your passionate creator, you get toonsquid like apps. that's the future of business, genuineness over bottome line profits, but the irony is such apps will generate more revenue than ever, because it was genuinely created by a passionate creative individual or team of individuals in it for the outcome, not the money upfront necessarily :D
@@nikkim7038there’s nothing special about it being made by one person. The developers from PC Dreams could do the same thing easily. But what they are trying to do is use very little to no RAM to run the software. Toonsquid is limited to the RAM for the amount of layers you can use or size of the canvas. That’s the challenge the developers are facing, so you can have almost infinite layers and 1mil by 1mil pixels
10:33 Animation Fondation misspelling, just FYI since its on a product page
Foundation*
@@FuriosasWarRig exactly :)
i think its french
This was so great!! I tried procreate dreams and gave up because it was frustrating. Thanks for the inspiration
i refunded it and got toonsquid instead i am trying to work with the program, not against it 😭 it's a shame bc i love procreate
best and most useful review I've seen of this program.Thanks!
jazza: for context, i'm old
me: yeah man, me too
jazza: grow up
😂😂😂
vids like this help motivate me to try and get back into art and more creative projects
Really glad to see Jazza try out Dreams! Well put about the bell curve at the end… it takes a bit to learn, but once you get used to it it’s pretty cool! But that’s also when some of the issues become more evident. I’m glad he liked it overall. I personally think the video editing aspect is what excited me about it
We wanna see hil try toonsquid tho. The best animation app out there
Procreate Dreams is like an abusive relationship: I'm so in love with the OG Procreate drawing experience that Dreams seems like a no brainer for me, but it lacks so many basic features you'd expect from other programs.
I've done my complaining on their forums enough already, but it's a really conflicting feeling: I'm very particular about my brushes/pressure curves so working in Dreams keeps me from wasting time making things look nice and instead keeps me animating.
But so many functions are missing, like looping groups, a more adjustable timeline that doesn't force me into flipbook mode, or adjustable tween curves...
I'll proudly still use it, but I often won't recommend others to use it if they aren't as beholden to their brush engines like I am.
7:28 did your team make this song? It is awfully specific to the content of the video😂 if so, nice!
Once again seeing Jazza animate and wanting to get into animation myself😢
The impacts and the motion are just *cheff kiss*
That initial frustration of relying on our intuition to explore the app without reading up is so relatable. Thanks for doing this!
brings me back to when I really started to first get into drawing I remember watching Jazza's Animation videos constantly for some short so cool to see him animate again and reference a Teller's Tale
In every animation there's always at least one stickman getting abused
I miss this so much. I've not been on this channel for years but I used to watch you all the time, and then I just stopped for some reason. the intro is so nostalgic it made my heart hurt. I'm glad I clicked on this video! I'm back :)
YEEEEEs Jazza is on the rigth track...YOU told how to animate Jazza thank you for bringing back animation into the channel
ANIMATIONS ARE BACK BABY!!!
It would be nice to see a mini series of you learning procreate and creating more refined pieces like . 1 day with procreate , 1 week , 1 month and so on or different level difficulties of animation using pro create
Your animation looks so fun. I like it 👍🏻
4:23 new favorite quote of Jazz’s 2024
PERFORMANCE MODE IS INGENIOUS IVE ALWAYS WANTED A DIGITAL ANIMATION SOFTWARE WITH A FEATURE LIKE THAT
Ive had procreate dreams ever since it came out and its so nice oml-
Also Jazza if your reading this and wanted a faster way of importing brushes in the future, you can drag the entire folder and after a bit all of the brushes in that group will be there :D
Love watching your animation process! Makes me wanna get on dreams myself but i cant atm as im in Dublin ireland for my graduation trip and will stay in ireland for 2 weeks and i left my ipad at home (mostly due to bluetooth on the plane as the pencil is bluetooth)
Anyways cant wait for more videos like this if you decide to make more in the future!
Not sure if you know this but you can animate in procreate as well but its nowhere near this since you cant add sound which sucks, but we have dreams now and its probably one of my favorite animation apps to use after flipa-clip
Ball, stick-man and blood are the perfect combo for introductory animating. In fact, even when kids learn to draw, they often begin with those three. Heck, even cavemen pretty much started with those as well (emphasis on pretty much).
Truely the origin of human creativity.
as someone who uses procreate dreams, i was very confused the first few days.
I'm not sure if someone's already mentioned this but for 16:01 you can group a selection of frames and make the entire group a clipping mask layer. Also you can set the group to have a blending mode.
No wonder my procreate video spiked in in views it was you.
Anyway, I been year since I see your video Since i lost my old channel in 2018 so I was trying find all the old animation channel I love watching.
i'm happy to see that your okay
OH by the try program call toonsquid for ipad it just like adobe animate
I think this is a pretty fair assessment. I love Procreate to draw, and was initially a bit disappointed with Dreams despite having looked forward to it for months - however, after a lot of trial and error (and even more researching as you did), I can see how it has the potential to simplify a lot of the complex ideas that can arise during animation. It isn't perfect and has glaring gaps, but I'm hoping those with improve over time with updates.
I recently just finished an interactive animation course for my college and in we used Adobe Animate. I had experience with Adobe Flash before it was rebranded into Adobe Animate so I thought this would be a great chance to relearn the program and see what new features there were so after spending 8 weeks using the program I can safely say I am NEVER using Adobe Animate ever again🤬😡. I ran into so many issues/bugs I basically had to turn in an incomplete final project because of all of the problems I was having. Luckily I wasn’t the only one and the professor gave us all some lean way on our projects but it just showed me how far Adobe has failed to keep Adobe Animate relevant. It also shows that they are more interested in keeping their graphic programs like Photoshop and Illustrator more supported as those are their most popular programs. I won’t be surprised if later on we see them stop supporting Adobe Animate because with companies like Procreate creating better art programs than them they would rather just put more effort into supporting Photoshop and Illustrator.
procreate it's not better than animate, if anything i would say toonsquid is closer but not yet, but the crashes are true, i ended up cracking an older version to be able to work on it
Enfin!!! ça fait 1 an que je cherche des cours d'animations mais avec un prix pas trop élevé!!!
Merci beaucoup! je vais aller voir votre cour, vous pouvez être certain!
Yes* seems to be the verdict for almost every animator who reviews it. I've done several longer projects in it now, and I find that it's usually better to do the actual drawing in Procreate and import the layers to Dreams (which you can do with drag and drop). Once they add a lasso tool to Dreams, that might change!
My favorite jazza videos have always been his animation ones
Gonna watch this when I come home but how fitting it was thst this video came now. Just the other day I was asking around on Threads if Procreate really is worth it...and yesh seems like it, now interesting to see what Dreams will be like.
Loved this video! The stick figure animation made me feel in my teens again xD the early days of RUclips. And I'm so happy you're getting back into your groove and having some cheeky fun in your videos
Moho is another one to look into. Very much a vector with tweening and bones type thing in the vein of flash/animate but with a few twists. Seems to be a slightly more minor player than toonboom but its had a few major productions done with it, and seems pretty intuitive.
I have never animated anything, and I don't think I ever will. BUT! This video was so fun. I was laughing my head off non stop! Thank you so much! Also, I know it was all good fun, but Jazza has serious skill
The animation was very nice especially how organic the stick figure was being flung around by the ball the cartoon physics was immaculate
Try blender next
always a good day when jazza posts
I was like... "yeah, let's watch old comidiant cartoonist, how he struggle with an app'... Now I totally take it back as I leaned so much usefull things for using procreate dreams. Thank you, and sorry for calling you old man, but I kinda grow up with your videos, so... please take it as a complement for being a good fun techer. With all respect thanks for not stopping sharing your expirience as an artist.
Really has a nostalgic feeling this video, but still super fresh and entertaining!
Hope to see more of these sorts of videos again 🎉
What a great video! This is my first encounter with the very talented, Jazza. You are a gift!
One of my absolute favorite video’s you’ve ever made!!! Amazing ! Would love to see more procreate dreams videos! Keep it up Jazza !
in my short time using dreams, i have learnt that janky techniques are the main way to edit large sections of the timeline (which is my main issue with the app), like to make the clipping layer, id make one frame, drag it out, and cut it, all before putting the actual drawing on, and then copy and paste for repetitive parts, then tweak where necessary.
i believe everyone knows that this app can be one of the best going, if it just had a few things added to it, which many people have already spoken about
Thank you, i really found this video helpful and has massively inspired me with my art journey! I have only done one animation project and that was on procreate so I have been really curious about this. I'm hoping that as a beginner I won't necessarily know whats missing or not intuitive for animation software. Thank you again i cannot overstate how brilliant i found your animations and im soooo inspired to keep going! 💖
I don’t think most people realize what the developers for PC Dreams are doing. They definitely released it too early tho. In comparison to Toonsquid, PC Dreams runs on very little RAM to get virtually infinite layers for a frame and a canvas size for 1M by 1M in pixels. Toonsquid is limited in layers and only does 4K in pixels depending on the amount of RAM you got it can do more.
I love watching Jazza learn. He's so real. Great video!
I was seriously looking forward to Jazza to make this video as I am almost 4 or 5 year old subscriber who watches all his videos and I once started using Adobe Flash by being inspired by Jazza’s feature film. But then i had to give up on adobe since it was not portable on my ipad. Ever since i have started using Procreate dreams i find following things as a charm:
1. Audio sync
2. Grouping made easy compared to animation feature in Procreate
3. Auto tweening without loosing pixels in my art
I really really want Procreate dreams to include lasso and select tool. Yes i have requested this on their website chat thread. 😊
Probably a good thing for starting out and doing small scale things as a proof of concept to show studios etc.
Aaron Blaise and Michael Relth’s animations didn’t look so small scale me. Their films seemed pretty high-end and professional as far as I can tell. I can’t see how they could be any better. 🤷🏾
@@Tonabillity Well they’re very short lol and I don’t think any animator wants to use procreate dreams for longer animations. Also while those animations are great they’re not highly detailed compared to professional animation projects.
@@bakad5458 They’re made by SEASONED professionals who get do ANYTHING that they wish, and their work looks pretty darn professional to me ❤️🔥
I don’t see anything missing with ANY of it.
Just because animators create short films, doesn’t mean that they’re not highly professional 🤷🏾
I’ve seen much worse, created with “so-called” better applications 🧐
@@bakad5458 Perhaps you can do MUCH better, but their work has MORE than enough detail for my taste!
I’ve seen much worse created with “supposedly” better applications.
In fact, I also have Toon Boom, which feels like tedious, hard labor by comparison.
As an award-winning animator myself, I’m having a BALL creating a music video with PD!
Even though it’s still in beta, I’d much rather work with Procreate Dreams ANY day!❤️🔥
But that’s just me
User results may vary 🤷🏾
This is so crazy, I love seeing the journey ☺☺
This looks really good I want to get better at animating because it looks so fun to see your stuff come to life
Once you get used to it, it is reallybfun, and pretty easy 😁
I've seen that animation, and it was amazing. I could never. I was at a loss for words!! (:
9:59 I’m gonna be honest here I’ve never seen the emails be above one thousand, let alone 40 thousand!!
love a good none biased review just the raw opinion of someone is always great to hear even if it could be wrong or right
I hope you bring out another animated film similar to the "Take Teller". It was so well done, and left me wanting more.
Jazza, you would export the 4k animation into another video editor for adding sound and other effects. I wouldn’t probably add them in the procreate dreams. Takes up more memory. Which is needed more to have more frames.
This is good and so smooth
Hope this will get more views, because it was so much fun! I fear the thumbnail makes this video look like an ad, and that perhaps made people not want to click...?
I love these types of videos just Jazza vs new art program hope he does more videos like these in the future :)
my toxic trait is thinking "yeah i could do that!" having never attempted animation before
You can put the Files app in a side view so you can have Procreate Dreams and the Files app appear on the same screen. This way you can preview audio files and drag-and-drop them into Dreams :)
You should try toon squid! I love the program and the support team for it is insanely helpful
@TheGreatUndergroundEmpirethis is exactly what i did!
Toonsquid is OP!
Toonsquid is the better app for sure. No one knows about it
my main issue with procreate dreams is just the lack of lasso/select and move/resize tools
sure the ui confuses the heck out of me but not being able to move sections of my drawings how i wanted to (a very very common thing for me) was so frustrating that i went back to making my animatic in regular procreate instead 😅