The whole Superman wearing glasses thing has actually been proven to work very well. People only see what they want to see. Even Henry Cavill himself proved the theory by standing in the middle of Time Square at mid day wearing a Superman shirt. standing right under a massive Superman billboard and no body recognized him at all.
It's been explained in the comic books that he doesn't just put on glasses. He changes the pitch of his voice, he changes his posture, he rarely looks people in the eye as Clark Kent, so he essentially becomes a different person. Christopher Reeve did a great job of depicting that difference in his version of Superman. Also, Batman has pointed out that Perry White probably knows Clark is Superman, but he keeps it quiet much the same way Gordon probably figured out who Batman was but pretends not to know.
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I would love a history on Gordon's point of view and he knows bot Bruce doesn't figured out yet and we watch him solving a mistery with batman, it would be interesting.
The thing is, as much as I like Henry Cavill as Superman, he really doesn’t play into the difference between Clark and Superman at all. Like you say Reeve did it really well, Cavill is literally just wearing glasses.
@@heitoroliveira5166 The closest we have is in Injustice where he points out that of course he knew who Batman was and that Batgirl was his daughter. He always knew about her sneaking out in costume with Dick Grayson. "How? I'M A DETECTIVE!"
Fun Fact Nat, When the second film was coming out, Henry Cavill walked around Times Square, under the huge posters of him, with a superman Tshirt and a pair of glasses and wasn't stopped once. So yeah the glasses thiing can actually work but normally its also his behaviour as Clark that conviences people he can't be superman even if he looks like him. The OG films with Christopher Reeve did this extremely well.
Henry Cavil is just an actor and at that point not very well known, unlike Superman who literally saved the entire planet and we expect no one, not even jouranlists whose job it it to look deeper, not to recognise him?? The glasses thing is stupid, and always has been, but it's true to the comics at least.
@@jamesb7924 problem wkth that. 1. He had already been Superman and was plenty well known as the new Superman. The movie may not have joined the billion dollar club, but it still made a big fat stack of cash and did really well. 2. Superman is well known, not Clark Kent, and you'd be surprised how even people you know might not recognize you when you present and carry yourself in a different way than they expect to see you. People often don't recognize what they don't expect to see. As it pertains to Henry Cavill, nobody expects to see a famous celebrity just standing out in the middle of Times Square, so they don't notice.
@@jamesb7924 But I mean if there was a giant electronic posters in Times Square with his face on it, surely someone would notice whether he was popular or not.
@Daniel Chávez Woah, check out Superman Man of Tomorrow, or the old Justice League cartoon. If you are down to read, then All Star Superman is a good shout to. Superman is first and foremost a friend, and while I liked this interpretation, it isn't the Superman people who read comics or watched animated shows fell "in love" with. Watch the old Superman movies with Christopher Reeves as well! While the effects and action as well as dialogue can feel outdated, the characterization of Superman is closest to comic accuracy we have seen in live action. The thing I also really dislike about Snyder's interpretation is that he doesn't understand Clark Kent is who he is. Meaning that Superman is the mask even though this interpretation and people who don't read the comics or seen animated shows disagree. There are also 'two" Clark Kents, Metropolis/Daily Planet Clark and Smallville Clark. While the Metropolis Clark Kent is sort of a disguise, Smallville Clark is his true identity or self. After all, he didn't even know he was an alien until he was much older (and in some variations not until he was an adult even if he discovered his powers before hand). For some, including Synder, Superman/Kal-El is his true self and Clark Kent is a disguise. In actuality and in majority of comics and animation, as well as to Superman fans who have known the character for long (based on what I have seen on the internet), this isn't true. It isn't like Batman where even in the comics Batman is Bruce's true self, not Bruce Wayne. Joss Whedon even tried to show this with his intro with the cgi to take off Henry Cavil's mustache in his version of Justice League but for obvious reasons that movie failed.
Henry Cavill actually did an experiment and stood under the Batman V Superman movie poster in Timesquare wearing a Superman shirt to see if anyone would recognize him and no one did. There's actually a lot more to the glasses thing than people realize.
I remember that! Apparently people don’t recognize anyone immediately if you wear glasses when one usually doesn’t lol. But NYC is a bad example, having lived there- most new Yorkers are too busy going about their day to care to look for faces, they gotta get to work/home or catch the next train. Seeing celebs on trains is fairly common. Once saw Keanu Reeves on the train. Neat sighting but it takes a while for me to get home. No time for an autograph.
@@derekjanson2328 I work in NYC & especially given today's obsession with the phone, most people would NEVER figure out Clark is Superman just by him walking among us in disguise. Metropolis is the perfect hiding spot for him, actually. Him living in Smallville, though? That's an entirely different story, one the movie kind of hints at.
Zod's story is a tragic one. He was literally designed to be a protector of his people. His destiny was programed into him before his birth. Everything he did was to protect his people but without them he had nothing and wanted to die. Unfortunately, he was programed to never die without a fight. He let Superman beat him. He wanted to die and he wanted the future of his people to do it. So, in a sense, he could still die for his people. Also, you should open more videos with you singing. You have a lovely singing voice.
I don't agree about letting Clark beat him. More like when he knew he was done and beaten. To be taken as a prisoner just wasn't going to fly. So why not force Clarks hand and die a warriors death. Or accomplished what he wanted by killing the people that Clark sided with over his own race.
When filming the original 1978 Superman movie, Christopher Reeve constantly had fans clamoring around him when he was filming on location in the Superman suit but whenever he went out in the Clark Kent suit and glasses, no one recognized him and he was left alone. With this film, I feel like Zack Snyder hinted at the idea that people knew but kept quiet about it. Having grown up in a small town, word gets around via whispers and rumors. Smallville residents either knew or had suspicions. The fight in the IHOP, for example, Pete recognized him but remained quiet because he knew the kind of person Clark is.
Christopher Reeve, the first Superman in the movies, did a perfect job representing the disguise as Clark Kent. His back was hunched, he was too awkward, you never see the definition of his muscles because of the posture, his voice is higher and he startles a lot and always avoiding eye contact. There's a scene where Lois shoots him and then he suddenly stands tall and straight, his voice deepens as he notices he couldn't keep the charade from her. It's a perfect character transition.
As someone rewatching Smallville, the old TV show about his teen years, when you asked "How many tragic accidents have happened in this town?" I almost spit out my drink 😂
watching that show as an adult I saw a lot I missed as a kid, like all the cu**ol*ing.....it is essentially Clark watching other males bed the female he love lol, for 10 seasons
him jumping really high at the beginning is a nod to his first appearance in DC Comics. Originally, Superman couldnt fly. His ability to fly originated from the Superman radio show that premiered in 1940
It was genuinely so frickin' fun seeing you piece together these things that a Superman nerd might take for granted. Like when you pieced together that Kryptonite was probably material left from Krypton's destruction! Just a lot of fun seeing the movie through your eyes, Natalie! Great video as always!
@@changsangma1915 The World Engine has materials from Krypton's soil and plants to help in the Terraforming process so it's still made from the Planet.
Natalie, If you watch Batman vs superman I strongly recommend the ultimate edition and not the theatrical edition. The editors took out some of the most important scenes out and they’re only in the ultimate edition.
@@ge2719 Yea a dreadful movie is now 3hours long but it actually makes sense. Personally I rather the shorter version. Even making sense it’s a awful movie. So why torture yourself with another 30mins.
Yes, definitely this. The extended cut turns a movie that seems pretty awkward that requires the audience to know a lot of stuff, and explains it to explain character motivations much better
The street they used for downtown Smallville is my mom's hometown and you can see my Grandpa's flooring store in those shots. He passed away a few years ago causing us to close the store, but he was so excited when they were filming there, so this movie is nostalgic to me for that reason. My dad got to have a 5 second conversation with Henry Cavill while they were filming and now calls him "Hank" as if they are best friends! 😂 Also, fun fact, the giant American flag with Welcome to Smallville is still painted on that brick wall and they now have a little Superman museum inside the train station across the street.
Natalie - you NEED to watch the classic 1978 "Superman" movie starring Christopher Reeve. It has a VERY different vibe from Man of Steel, and it might be interesting to us to see someone see the movies in reverse order.
In the comics the glasses work a little better. Clark is shy, doesn’t talk much and he also adjusts his posture to make himself more slouched and he stands up straight as Superman. But I’m pretty sure Henry Cavill stood somewhere in public with a Superman shirt and glasses and no one recognised him so it works more than we think lol
I remember Mythbuster Kari Byron talked about being able to walk around the convention floor of SDCC with a baseball cap on and NOBODY recognized her, even people she knew and ran into didn't notice it was her. She said that overdoing it (hat+glasses+hoodie) would probably draw attention, but just wearing one thing not normally associated with you can be just enough to get people to overlook you.
When you said, "That was the purpose he was created with." That was very important. The main theme of this movie is that Clark is better than Zod because he chose to be a hero, while Zod was forced into it by his society even before he was born. That's why in the scene with the priest, the stained glass window shows the Garden of Gethsemane. It's the one time in the Gospel when Jesus reveals that he has a choice about whether or not to follow the plan and is considering not doing it.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps "Purpose" is the REASON for the choice that is made; the PURPOSE of an action is to fulfill a desired goal and, after the available options are evaluated, the option that you determine is the most likely to succeed is (or ought to be) the one that you choose. A "purpose" can't exist INDEPENDENT of a "choice". What Zod was referring to was the Kryptonian society's ethos, which holds the view that an individual's "PURPOSE FOR LIVING" is chosen by their SOCIETY, by their SOCIETY'S "NEEDS". Hence, Kryptonians are "purpose-built", quite literally. They are raised from childhood to fulfill their SOCIETY'S goals; the ONLY choices they are conditioned (intellectually/psychologically) to make are concerned with their designated place in society (scientist, soldier, politician, etc.). Kal-El/Clark Kent was not raised under the same ethos, therefore EVERYTHING in his life is a matter of choice.
Thank you for your comment. Understand what's being seen and as obviously undertone to the material. Supes' Judeo-Christian connection has been there for years and some people can't handle it. I respect it because it's positive and slightly lifts the fiction into more than just storytelling. People can actually learn from it and understand it.
@@atlasisshrugging _""Purpose" is the REASON for the choice that is made; the PURPOSE of an action is to fulfill a desired goal and, after the available options are evaluated, the option that you determine is the most likely to succeed is (or ought to be) the one that you choose."_ No, you're adding a fictional element that adds nothing and changes nothing. If my desired goal is to be on the other side of the crosswalk and I choose to calmly walk across the crosswalk, the reason for my choice was the desire for the goal (to be on the other side of the crosswalk). If I want to alert my friend to my presence and I choose to wave and holler the reason for me to choose to wave my hand and holler was to alert my friend to my presence. The options/alternatives (jog across the crosswalk or make my way toward my friend to potentially go "Hey, Mr. Magoo." if they don't notice me) make no difference as far as I can tell. "Ought" is another myth that we perpetuate out of egotism. There is nothing I "ought" to do, we're like fish in the sea in that sense. We can even swim into a doomsday machine ending up there after a Superman vs. supervillain fight and brush against a button and blow up the planet, the universe will have no opinion about our behavior, just see the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960s. _"A "purpose" can't exist INDEPENDENT of a "choice"."_ "Purpose" only exists in our imagination and is therefore a fiction. Choice cannot make it non-fiction since nothing can. _"What Zod was referring to was the Kryptonian society's ethos, which holds the view that an individual's "PURPOSE FOR LIVING" is chosen by their SOCIETY, by their SOCIETY'S "NEEDS"."_ I understand that is how they would think of it but the fact remains that "purpose" (and "needs/need/necessity") is a myth, it is entirely imaginary. _"They are raised from childhood to fulfill their SOCIETY'S goals; the ONLY choices they are conditioned (intellectually/psychologically) to make are concerned with their designated place in society (scientist, soldier, politician, etc.)."_ They are essentially brainwashed by their own system, yes. _"Kal-El/Clark Kent was not raised under the same ethos, therefore EVERYTHING in his life is a matter of choice."_ Yes... although it's a DC universe so that conclusion will become flattened like a pancake under the weight of time travel and cosmic entities and parallell universes and the kitchen sink.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Yeah, none of that is definitely true. At least not to the level of certainty you seen to have. Not only is a deterministic universe a very viable philosophical theory, but a deterministic universe is a viable theory within the realm of quantum mechanics. This means that "purpose" could be clearly defined for every entity on the planet, if it were true of course. And no, you are not the person to make that call. That is unless you want to suggest that your personal conclusion is somehow greater than the sum of every philosopher and physicist within the last few hundred years or so.
Generally, he keeps his identities separate by conveying himself differently as Clark and as Superman. When he's being Superman, he's super stoic and stands tall, while as Clark he has a slouch to look smaller and takes on a dorky, awkward personality. Because of this, even when his identity gets revealed, everyone who knows Clark would think it's outrageous that he could possibly be Superman because he presents himself as being so weak and nerdy.
That's Christopher Reeves' version, and a few comic runs. George Reeves acted pretty normally as Clark, as did Dean Cain and Henry Cavill. Most of Clark's modern takes he doesn't do the slouch nor acts weak and nerdy. Their takes aren't bad, and actually more comic accurate, but Reeves is more believable that people wouldn't notice Clark and Superman as being the same person.
@@kenjisparks the whole point why people don't recognize clark as superman is because the POWER superman uses and shows are NONHUMAN a perfect specimen if he is human. that being said Clark wearing glasses is giving a person being imperfect (having imperfect vision) becomes the immediate feeling of people. that is why glasses are visually the easiest signifier of someone's intelligence because being "imperfect" and trying to be better(wearing glasses) shows real humanity and the trying part is the strongest emotion conveyed by the glasses.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 So if the gardener who cuts your grass every two weeks showed up wearing glasses one time you wouldn't believe it was him until he started gardening... interesting
I liked Grant Morrison's take in All Star Superman. Just a country boy who's too big and awkward for the city. And even when he's being clumsy and bumping into people, he's (more often than not) actually saving their life. Cause he's always Superman, he can't help it. It was actually listening to Grant Morrison just talk about Superman that gave me a whole new appreciation for the character.
One take on it has been that the vast majority of the world has never even considered that he might be someone other than Superman sometimes. If you're Superman, why bother being someone else?
For me, the best version of Superman's origin story is in "Superman: The Animated Series". That three part opening episode started one of my favourite versions of Superman.
@The Unknown Weirdness quick question, have you checked out superman & lois? because it's pretty fricken great as a representation of both clark AND superman. like, i've never been a fan of superman, he's always just bored me as a character and i never clicked with any of his adaptions UNTIL superman & lois. to me, he finally felt like a real person in that show. i'm only going into it so much here since you seem like a long-time fan and superman & lois kinda flies under the radar a bit (no pun intended)
@@QuestionableLifeChoices Have you ever watched the Justice League episode "Comfort and Joy"? It does an amazing job of humanizing Clark and showing just what kind of person he is, what his values are, his relationship with his adoptive parents, and so forth, through the eyes of Martian Manhunter.
I didn't think that much of the movie when it came out but over the years I grew to appreciate it as a coming of age slash alien invasion movie. There are some plot elements that are really weird choices but in the end I like how optimistic the ending was. It's too bad they didn't get to make a Man of Steel 2 where it was toned down for the destrction and we get more of a heartwarming story where the people see him as a real hero.
Honestly, for me, I liked the fact that they tried to give a somewhat realistic interpretation of what would happen if beings around Clark’s power level actually fought. Especially given nearly every other superhero fight just happens to take place in some abandoned location with lower stakes because of it. I really do understand why people wanted another Superman movie that felt more like all the other superman movies and shows but I liked the fact that they did something different here. I fully admit that I’m a fan of risks being taken with characters, especially characters who have been set in a very specific mold for a looooooong time.
Honestly the vision of snyderverse was never about lasting peace but impending darkness for which the heroes have to put up with conflicting scenarios. The snyderverse was supposed to end with JL2 with Darkseid fulfilling what was destined to become of Earth's fate. It was to become the Endgame level battle. But now that's not happening with the rumoured reboot.
if you watch homelander in "The Boys" you see EXACTLY what happens when someone like superman ends up in the wrong place as a child. Would be halarious if you watched it!
The original Superman the movie with Christopher Reeve from 79 Is a true classic and Christopher Reeve plays Superman so well that you almost believe that a pair of glasses is enough to disguise him.
Especially because he did even a harder job to act clumsy as Clark, that helped even more lol. The first 2 superman movies from the 70s are my all time favs
11:43 It's funny because when Superman was first made, he never *was* able to fly, but just jump really far. They gave him the power to fly later on because they just thought it was natural for him.
Henry Cavill (The actor for Superman) went to time square while wearing a Superman shirt and nobody recognized him. So it's not improbable that people don't recognize someone you haven't met face to face with if they change their appearance.
Shaking my head. You should have started with Superman (1978). Do visit it someday. It's an entirely different animal to this film, most of the effects still stand up and it has the two of the greatest performances from the late great Christopher Reeve. It is quite sincere for a superhero movie but not too sincere (like Man of Steel). Funny and charming also.
I live the dichotomy he faced regarding the advice from his two fathers. One wanted him to embrace his abilities and be a guiding Christ like figure to humanity, another was a realistic grounded individual who knew he'd spend the rest of his life being dissected if he ever exposed himself, to the point he was willing to die to protect his identity, and in the end he managed to embrace both sides
@@itzsamic well Siegel and Schuster created the character based on a Messiah figure so your options are Momotaro from Japan, Moses, Jesus, or Brian from Monty Python, so pick one, I guess
@@phoenixdzk he’s based on Moses and a bit of Samson. Neither of whom are messianic figures in the same vein as Jesus (especially not Samson obviously). Siegel and Schuster didn’t even believe in Jesus
Christopher Reeve pulled off the glasses masterfully and it actually worked even in live action. Lois and Clark from the 90s also wasn't bad and the costuve scene was a lot of fun.
Yes he actually seemed like a different person, and it wasn't just the glasses, his whole posture and demeanor changed. I especially like the part where he caught the bullet, and when Lois is not looking, he reveals it to the camera with a smirk.
Reeve really did an excellent job as Clark. He acts so timid and meek, clumsy and downright nerdy compared to his superman that it's much more believable. His build is also more average so he fits in the "everyman" role very well. There's been a lot of explanations (and jokes and criticisms) about the Superman / Clark Kent face-blindness people seem to suffer in DC. In the original comics and shorts, every man was kind of drawn as a big jacked dude, so in a suit and glasses Clark didn't stand out. In one of the comics (during the Silver age I think) the glasses were actually kryptonian tech that acted as a "notice-me-not" spell or Doctor Who-esque chameleon technology (why people don't question a blue police box; I think that changed later though). Realistically, it's just fun writing-wise to give him a secret identity. To let him live as he grew up, a "normal person" able to blend in with others and enjoy life.
It wasn't just the glasses with Reeve though. He slouched over and was super clumsy and awkward. The hair was a bit different too. Nobody so far has played Clark Kent as differently as they played Kal El than Christopher Reeve did.
What I feel they could do (especially in the comics) is to bring back a (diminished version of) an old superpower: Altering his appearance. By "super-tightening" his facial muscles he could exaggerate certain things whenever he's say getting his photo taken or talking with people who've seen the other up close e.g. as one he makes his cheekbones more pronounced, as the other he does something to make them less so, and maybe in connection with specific expressions e.g. Clark's "smile for the camera" and Superman's make them look barely alike. In a franchise like the DCEU you could just showcase it once, wouldn't even take much CGI, and then just skirt around it, make them go "C'mon, WB, we want to see the face trick again."
There's an "alternate reality" animated movie where Kal is actually the son of Zod instead of Jor, and when he arrives on Earth, he's found by a Mexican migrant family, and raised by them instead. As a result, he's still raised with a set of good values, and an appreciation for humanity. But he also has some of Zod's tendencies, and he's LIVED the consequences of humanity's dark side. He's a bit more ruthless in how he does what he does, but he still very thoroughly and genuinely cares about helping others...especially the poverty-stricken and downtrodden masses. But...the dude is truly friggin brutal about it at times. He generally doesn't kill unless he has to, but when he sees the need, there's no hesitation and no remorse...but there is mercy in it. He never makes anyone suffer, no matter how he feels about them.
There is an animated justice league movie called "Flash Point", that movie explores what happens if the flash messes with time, and also shows superman landing somewhere else. Worth a watch imo
yeah the DCAMU (DC Animated Movie Universe) is a big bag but Flashpoint is great. The Superman Animated Series would be a great place for Superman related stories the DCAU from the 1990s to 2000s is amazing.
@LittleGalaxyBoy Agreed, the only problem with that is that it's an animated series that ran for multiple years and is tied together with multiple other series as well. Don't get me wrong, I'd really love for her to watch them all! I just don't see that working out on RUclips, so she'll likely not do that.
Red Son is also a great Elseworlds story (like Marvel's What If...) where he lands in Russia or similar and how the world would have changed. Granted many DC characters had a Russian counterpart in that, IIRC. I think they made an animated movie about it, although I haven't seen it.
The reason why Jon didn't let Clark save him is the same reason he said maybe when Clark asked what he should've done with the bus. Jon was just looking out for his son so he can make a mature decision when the time is right.
We might just need more Natalie-singing content. Also, Clark's dad dying by tornado is so counter to the traditional story where he died of a heart attack. The idea was, he can do all these amazing feats, but couldn't have stopped his dad dying of a sudden medical problem. It's a specific lesson, not a "don't show nobody you're super." Otherwise, a solid Superman story. Oh, and, hehe, Henry went to Times Square before the Batman/Superman movie - so well after this one - wearing a Superman t-shirt. But even without glasses, no one recognized him. So, glasses probably actually work as well as a mask - most people don't see what they don't expect to see.
It wasn’t just the glasses that hid his ID in plain sight. Clark would change his entire posture and even the way he spoke to blend in with the human populous. Christopher Reeve pulls this off beautifully in his ‘70s portrayal as Superman. I forget which show did it also but they also confirmed that with a good disguise and changing how you carried yourself, you can actually fool people youre close to with the right disguise and the right act to go with it
There's a great scene in the 2006 *Superman Returns* movie that directly addresses it as well. Lois is talking with her boyfriend/husband who has never met Clark, and he is suspicious that Clark might be Superman. Superman overhears them discussing and convinces them otherwise by acting Clarkish. Edit: ruclips.net/video/qy-YgIPA11o/видео.html
If you want to see how the glasses thing could work, check out the 1978 movie. It's campy as all get-out by today's standards, but Christopher Reeve absolutely sold the difference.
Here's the scene. ruclips.net/video/tNUu6Lf9mVU/видео.html The comments list all the reasons why it worked and on camera. No VFX, magic or technobabble. Reeve was an underrated actor.
No matter how bad Zod may be viewed. When he said “If you love these people so much, then you can mourn for them”. That hit. Mainly because Zod lost his purpose, passion and his drive. I think for anyone, losing your personal purpose would be extremely difficult. But what also hit when Zod said that was his lack of ability to adapt like Kal did. Both Zod and Kal were about protecting their people. Zod was lacking a broader vision as to why Krypton destroyed itself and lost reasoning to be rebuilt. Especially when you have to take and destroy another planet to rebuild your own.
exactly. lot of ppl just don't get the scene. Zod failed his purpose. and wanted to punish Kal by killing everyone else, just as Kal has, in his view, killed his second chance at having a Krypton. his monologue was filled with emotion. and he decided it already: "there's only one way this ends, Kal. either you die, or I do." Zod did not want to beat Kal. he wanted to kill his soul.
Interesting Fact: When Clark cauterizes Lois' wound he's actually using TWO abilities simultaneously. His Heat Vision which is self explanitory, and his microscopic vision to pinpoint the exact location that needs to be cauterized
Well, it had already become canon he can do that. Fun fact: Originally he didn't have a powerful heat vision, he just focused his x-ray vision on a specific point like the sun through a magnifying glass.
@@joshholland8564 Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that in the comics (it was a shiny metal piece of his ship that wouldn't melt that easily) but for the cartoon you are correct.
@@bemasaberwyn55 _"The microscopic vision is something that NO OTHER LA version of Superman has shown"_ LA version? You mean Hollywood version? In The Quest For Peace Lex Luthor tells Superman to take a look at someone's DNA and Superman just looks at that someone and then they talk about it.
The glasses thing works in the comics and other adaptations because when he's Clark Kent, he acts like a bit of a shy person, but when he's Superman he's the complete opposite.
I saw an interview with someone from the CIA saying that very small changes in appearance can make the observer see someone differently, especially if observing casually. Average sized, clean shaven white male. Who cares to take a closer look? Used all the time in fieldcraft. Interviewee specifically mentioned the Clark Kent/Superman thing. Glasses, hair, clothing is more than enough. He could also change his gait, facial expression, stature if he wanted a more pronounced difference. The important part is that he has no noticeable facial markings like scars or tattoos
For better use of the Superman story, I recommend you watch the 78-79 Superman movie starring the late great Christopher Reeve. Also she did the typical nonfan thing of "how do they not recognize him passed a pair of glasses?" Argument. This is also subtly covered in the Reeve film
@@hoya1178 no, considering A- Jonathan Kent never died in the original comic story, him dying was an edit on the part of the Salkinds. B- the Richard Donner/Lester film tackled the death of Jonathan Kent better than MOS did. And C- the film goes into better detail on the dichotomy in character difference between Clark Kent and Superman beyond the "oh how can no one else see it's him with glasses?" It's more than that and the original film shows that off well
Naw, that is the boy scout version. Its outdated and even the comics retro-rebooted Superman because of it. Cavil's is the Superman from the 1980s comics onward.
There's a scene in the 1978 Superman movie where Chrisopher Reeve in full Clark Kent mode takes off his glasses, seems to grow three inches in height as he straightens up, takes on a deeper voice, a different facial look, and, for a moment, we see Superman there in Clark's business suit. Then he changes his mind and goes back to being Clark. It was spookily great acting.
I will say your criticism on pa Kent’s death is a main one people have. I personally don’t mind it, but I would have liked, as shown in other stories, that he died by some disease (heart or cancer) just to show that Clark can only do so much. Even with his amazing abilities, he is still limited. Also, yes there is a show called Smallville which I would highly recommend. One of my favorite shows ever.
On one hand I agree that it's kind of an odd death considering Clark's powers but on the other - what is the fastes way to explain why Clark would become a superhero? His dad was just a human and look how brave and kind he was, ready to die for others and to protect his sons secret. Also just papa Kent being a badass for however short we had him 😁
I agree, and I get why they did it that way, I just think they could have come up with a much more elegant solution. Your idea is a great one, too, and matches the original comics.
@@dianak6319 _"On one hand I agree that it's kind of an odd death considering Clark's powers"_ Well, that's the thing: Clark could save him but not without risking exposure and Jonathan saw the big picture, all of mankind might pay the price for that. Clark is 17 in that scene so having Cavill play him there, despite how young he looks, is arguably a mistake. Semi-SPOILER: The sequel heavily hints that Jonathan prioritized Martha over the dog and himself.
The interesting thing about this video is that Natalie's dog is just back there chilling out. None of this, "Why is mom yelling at the thing?" and coming over to see what's up. The dog is just so used to it now.... 🤣
There're some great films in the DC Extended Cinematic Universe. I'm glad you are checking them out! Here's a list of the other DC Extended Cinematic Universe films: - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Cut) - Suicide Squad (Extended Cut) - Wonder Woman - Zack Snyder's Justice League (The Long Cut) - Aquaman - Shazam! - Birds of Prey - Wonder Woman 1984 - The Suicide Squad - Black Adam (And, Upcoming for this Year) - The Flash - Blue Beetle - Shazam! Fury of the Gods! - Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
she probably only needs to watch like 4-5 of these...Wonder Woman, Justice League (snyder cut), Shazam, The Suicide Squad (Jame Gunn), and the PeaceMaker show (James Gunn)...James Gunn stuff in particular is great. most of this list is MIDS.
Hi Nat! I'm glad you watched Superman! You mentioned Smallville, which is one of my all time favorite shows. I'll be honest, there are a lot of things in the first 4 seasons (He's still in high school) to complain about, but I'd absolutely love for you to watch the show. Smallville hands down is the best representation of Clark Kent and Lex Luthor I could imagine. Honestly, I even think the cheesy stuff that isn't great about some of the seasons, would make for some pretty fantastic content haha. Also, still waiting for you to watch my favorite movie: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. Either way, love your content Nat, wish you the best and take care!
I would add my vote to watching Smallville. It's a great take on a young Clark Kent. If nothing else check out the Pilot episode and see if it's your cup of tea. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
I would love to see her watch smallville. I feel like the first four seasons has its cheesy moments but I still love them. It becomes a lot less cheesy tho in the later seasons and it’s just very good. I think aside from Christopher reeves it’s the best representation of superman on screen. It gets all the core ideas of superman perfectly which I feel like man of steel was lacking in
While I know people can be mixed on this movie, I DO think it has some of the best superpowered action scenes and definitely an INCREDIBLE soundtrack. I looped it a ton studying in college.
Great reaction! Yes Kryptonite is pieces of his old home planet, and Earth's sun is what makes him have powers, but also makes him incredibly susceptible to Kryptonite and so it weakens him
Eh, in some canon it has nothing to do with Earth's Sun. Personally I would have more of that, that Kryptonite basically "spikes" the yellow sunlight, causing Superman's body to "bleed" energy internally.
They lifted the Tornado plot directly from the Smallville TV show, except in that (SPOILERS) Clark goes into the thing himself. In various versions of the Superman Mythos Jonathan Kent either normally dies from a heart attack or is still around in Clarks Life offering advice and guidance. Him dying from something Clark can't stop is important but the Tornado just ain't it.
I didn't like the tornado scene at first either but it's difficult to have Jonathan Kent give his life to prevent World War III over 'The Superboy' with a heart attack or (unrelated to events) cancer.
The tornado part was, he know his kid was managed save him, but not in front of people. He know he will get attention by anyone. He wants him to hav a normal life and someday he will ready and rise up.
I loved in the Superman/Batman book where Superman was walking with Supergilr and she figure because people see him as such a powerful being, they would never expect him to be a normal guy.
Smallville was an amazing show. Cheesy at times but it had its moments. I liked Henry Cavill as Superman in this movie because he looked very similar to and reminded me of Tom Welling in the Smallville scenes. I'd like to think that their resemblence wasn't a coincidence.
13:28 I know it seems like a good idea but a highway overpass is one of the worst places you can be during a tornado. Because the space narrows as it goes up the wind will actually accelerate through the spot where everyone tries to hide. This makes it easier for the wind to "grab" and throw you. They also become a repository for flying debris. You're much better off in a ditch or in your car, ducking as low as possible and covering your head with your arms and anything that might lessen the impact of debris like floor mats etc.
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I love the idea of Nat approaching a co-worker in an office and saying "Hey new guy, aren't you that alien monster guy that destroyed the city a while back? That guy looked just like you."
29:26 That's the thing as well. Unlike the Waynes, who have to die for Bruce to develop into Batman, the Kents do not have to die for Clark to become Superman. DC has rebooted itself a few times, with each universe having a new take on the Kents and how their actions shape Clark as a Superman. During the Golden Age, The Kents would die seemingly of old age right before Clark becomes an adult. On Jonathan Kent's deathbed, he would say, "Clark Kent is a.. Superman! Remember, because that's what you are... A Superman." saying this to a Clark in his 20s, I believe. DC then introduced a new continuity that would become the mainline continuity, dubbed Earth-1, home to a new version of Superman for the Silver Age of comics. The Golden Age continuity with the original origin of these characters would be known as Earth-2 and would still keep getting stories with those versions of characters, allowing them to age etc. On Earth-1 the Kents were given the names Jonathan and Martha, who were depicted as being slightly younger than their Earth-2 counterparts. Unlike Earth-2, where Clark becomes Superman only after the deaths of the Kents, here on Earth-1, Clark is inspired to become a hero during his teenage years, becoming Superboy alongside the Legion of Superheroes from the future. All of this is set mainly within Smallville. The Kents also die after Clark Graduates from High School. The Kents take a tropical vacation but fall victim to a rare island disease that renders them bedsick. Both die, and Superboy leaves Smallville for Metropolis, becoming Superman in his early 20s. Not the biggest fan of how the Kent's die on Earth-1. DC would then have a massive Multiverse crossover event with Crisis on Infinite Wars that destroyed Earths across the Multiverse with Earth-1, Earth-2 and others coming together to stop the anti-monitor. This includes Earth-1 Superman and the older Earth-2 Superman. Ultimately, the Multiverse was killed, and a new reality was born, grouping the histories of Earth-1, Earth-2, and others into a single continuity. Here we have DC's post-crisis era (1986 to 2011), its most iconic and beloved continuity, home to some of the best comics and stories. John Byrne told Superman's new origin in Man of Steel. The Kent's don't die in this continuity, allowing Clark to receive essential guidance in becoming Superman into his adulthood. Martha Kent even designs his outfit for him, as Clark becomes Superman in his early 20s. Jonathan Kent would later have a Heart Attack after 22 years long streak of being alive in the comics since 1986's reboot. We later got Superman: Secret Origin in 2009, which showcased Clark Kent's Superboy era, a modernization of his adventures with the Legion of Superheroes. Also, decades before this, during WW2, we had the Justice Society of America who before the reboot only existed on Earth-2 so they were brought into the history of this new universe in a way that made so much sense. the older generation of hero's including Jay Garrick's Flash and Alan Scott Green Lantern. These hero's were active during the 1940s to 1950s who would later inspired characters like The modern Flash, Green Lantern, Batman, and of course Superman. So this universe was home to existing heroes even before Clark arrived on Earth, later inspiring him to become a hero himself and the creation of the Justice League, based on the Justice Society. DC then rebooted in 2011, giving birth to the New 52, a continuity that went for a moody and edgy tone. This was achieved by killing off the Kents in a car accident on the night of Clark's high school prom. So, a young 18-year-old Clark had to grow up without the guidance of his family, giving us a very moody Superman. The Justice Society of America never formed in this reality, so the world or the Kents never seen or heard about superhumans until Clark came along. So, like in the film Man of Steel, the Kent's recommended that Clark keep his powers hidden so he never developed them leading to him not being able to save his parents from the crash. DC then rebooted again with Rebirth, reverting back to the Secret Origin (2009) story for the basics of this Superman, even using the same art design. This time, Clark was able to save his parents from the car accident that killed them in the New 52 thanks to the Kent's recalling stories of the Justice Society of America allowing Clark to become a hero of his own instead of locking his powers away from the world. This universe was created as a reaction to the negative feedback of the New 52, returning to a more classic status quo in character depictions and designs yet still modernizing it. The Kent's are very much alive again. So yeah, the fates of the Kent's shape what kind of Superman we get in the story. James Gunn is working on his new Superman film, but I feel he'll keep the Kents around for a while.
well.. this is what a Superman fight would be like. or rather, what 2 very unexperienced superpowered beings fighting each other in the middle of a city would be like. lots of destruction and death.
There's a scene in the 1978 Superman movie which is probably the most believable version of the glasses-on-glasses-off transformation. It's basically that he's usually so dorky that you would never believe he's actually Superman.
One of my favorite moments in all of film. He actually seems to grow inches taller. Plus there's no cuts between when he takes off as Superman from Lois' balcony and appears at her door as Clark.
Some of the best comics show that EVERYTHING about Clark Kent changes when he puts on the costume. Posture, body language, diction, assertiveness. And yes, he takes off glasses. And that last is all Snyder noticed, while the old movies did their best to actually make a change. One of the subtle things is that in Richard Donner's version, Clark Kent and Superman part their hair in opposite directions.
The glasses thing is a classic thing. In some stories the glasses have some magical powers that make him look different, but in most of the stories he just pretend to be an idiot, innocent journalist so people would never think he's Superman, and the glasses are just a tpuch to make it not that obvious
Not magic glasses, they just change the color of his eyes by making them more human blue than alien blue. Also, he has a low level telepathic ability that causes people to just not connect the two faces.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 The glasses aren't magic. The one off story that tried to explained how the glasses help told how the Kryptonian lenses magnified his power of super-hypnosis the he was unconsciously using to influence people into seeing him differently. The concept didn't stick though. Happened in Superman #330 but was never mentioned again after that;
@@michaelash8552 I think I even read that story. The reason behind the glasses was, because standard glasses would melt as soon as he used his heat vision, he had to make them from material of his ship. And that enhanced his "hypno-vision" which made him look as meek to everyone, as long as they were standing in front of him. In the 1978 live-action movies, Christopher Reeve always pulled the glasses down to look above the frames when he did anything with Superman's vision. In the Lois & Clark series his mom told him no one would look at his face when he wore his costume - it also had the best explanation for the costume itself ("Why are you wearing that" - "My Mom made it for me!") The show also had a great scene where a villain was mocking Lois Lane for never noticing the similarity.
@@Cau_No Yeah I think getting the lenses from remains of his rocket came from a Superboy story. The glasses being his disguise is kind of an incomplete trope. If you've ever read any of the Golden Age comics the disguise was more Clark was meek and mild ( a pushover) and the glasses help sell that where Superman was Bold and rough (much more so than what people picture now) and force of nature. A people would not think two such different personality could be the same person. Over the year the mild-manner aspect of Clark has faded so you are down to just the glasses which doesn't really make a lot of sense, But then again most disguises don't work in real life either. Short of heavy makeup I recognize my cosplay friends even when they wear a mask.😂
About Zod's rage in the end, it's only natural he went berserk. You perfectly noticed that Zod was created this way, designed as a military leader even before being born. His sole purpose was to fight for Krypton's survival. And when his last people and birthing chamber were taken away from him, he had nothing left. Just brute force he decided to unleash against those whom he deemed guilty of dooming Krypton for good.
I’ve binged maybe 70 of Natalie’s videos in the past 10 days and this might be my favorite yet . Her relentless logic in the face of a crappy movie actually improved the film every step of the way. Hated it in the theater, loved it now 🙌🏼🙌🏼 😆
The problem with the glasses thing is you don’t get to see more of the Clark Kent persona. It’s not just wearing glasses, it’s the whole way he acts and carries himself (a bit of a bumbling clumsy man). Christopher Reeve was excellent as this in his movies. The Jonathan Kent death was definitely poorly done. Again other shows and movies did this better and more natural with how he passed away. Good movie overall but I feel it relies on you knowing the actual superman story already. Great reaction as always though.
There's the whole monologue at the end of Kill Bill dissecting the Superman/Clark Kent thing well. Clark is Kal-El's best impression of a human, it's his costume.
In Superman (1978) Christopher Reeve pulled off the Superman/Clark Kent difference better than anyone else has. He did so much more than just put on glasses.
Remember that space capsule they tested a few years ago? The SpaceX SN10. It lifted about 6 miles off the ground and then successfully landed back on the launch pad. Nothing spectacular, but a solid enough performance to showcase its potential ... and then it suddenly exploded into a giant fireball. That's what I think of when I think of Man of Steel and the DCEU. "Alright everyone. We obviously have a few things to tweak, a few criticisms to address, but the film is making money and I think we can all be excited about where ... OH MY GOD!"
“Soon to be collapsing?” Dude, as of this year, it’s been ten years since the DCEU started, and there’s still three movies to go, before they do their big reboot.
@@BatmanFan76 I think if there was any possibility that the Flash movie could be cancelled, it already would have been, à la Batgirl. Whatever the reason, I think there’s something special in that Flash movie that’s keeping the executives on board.
"I think the plot elements were a little cliche'" To be fair this is a Superman origin story movie, if the plot seems cliche' it's because other stories have taken bits and pieces from it over time, Superman was originally introduced in 1938.
If you are wondering about Kryptonite, you will have to watch the sequel known as Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. But you have to watch the Ultimate Cut! It's thirty extra minutes to a long film, but it's a worthwhile watch. Finally, after watching Dawn of Justice, you have to watch Justice League. But, you have to watch the edition called 'Zack Snyder's Justice League'. It's about four hours long, but it is so worth it as it is incredible. #RestoretheSnyderverse
Can confirm the glasses trick works at least when people aren't specifically expecting it. I've on more than one occasion had supervisors ask where I am when I'm not ten feet away, specifically because they don't usually see me wearing glasses.
The black hole that sucked all Zod’s crew was a portal to the Phantom Zone and it only affects Kryptonian which is why Lois didn’t get suck into the portal
I enjoyed the reaction. May I suggest you watch the Christopher Reeves Superman. It's another origin story, and it's from the 70's, so it's a little dated, but they did a good job of answering a lot of your questions. (The first Wonder Woman is an excellent movie.) Have fun!
The Kent’s are some of the best parents in fiction I know and I imagine the scene where he goes back into storm is just the way to show that no matter how invincible your kid is you don’t let them go into danger
It's like saying your son has an armour and a guy is trying to stab him with a sword, you jump in front of him, even knowing he's in no harm, taking the swing and dying for no reason.
@@OsSas3 but that son would be revealed to the world as special and the entire world would come after, turn him into a lab rat and experiment on him, something he doesn't deserve!
Yeah, Jonathan is lovely, saying that it may be better to let children die horribly when Clark could help them just because there was some risk to himself. More parents in movies should teach their children selfishness over good deeds! It's probably because of teachings like that that Clark either couldn't even be bothered to use his x-ray vision to look into the car and see if his dad was alright, or actually used it and saw that his dad was stuck but instead lied to Martha that he's OK and then didn't do anything.
@@crimsonjedi Like you said, it's Clark's secret? Why does he always have to take the decisions? He's usually wrong, telling his son is not the right time but dying and not preparing Clark for that.
People dont think SUPERMAN would hide amongst them they dont see it , glasses work who would imagine Superman working basic job wearing glasses and all that also he changes his posture and other little details
I think it makes sense that the father had Clark take his mother to the overpass. I believe he's being a protector as not just a father, but as a husband. He not only wants to protect Clark's identity, but he also wants Clark to be there with his mom to protect her in case anything happens considering how close the tornado was. Yes, the most logical thing would be to send Clark, but in the stress of the moment with basically no time to consider his options, he defaulted to his loving and protective nature.
I'd concur with what Keven has said here. Johnathon is very much thinking of the safety of others, and it's that very same trait that left a lasting impression on Clark from an early age.
Mr. Kent was also thinking about Clark's alter ego. If Clark had gone out there, he would have had to do something "super" to survive. Everyone hiding under the overpass would have seen it. It's a highway with vehicles from all over, not just Smallville. The story would spread exponentially, and Clark would be outed...the exact scenario the Kent's have been trying to avoid for decades. By sacrificing himself Clark's dad kept his family...AND THEIR SECRET, safe. The second point is just as important as the first in Clark's dad's eyes.
The glasses thing is actually more believable than you’d think, because it’s not just glasses. He holds himself differently, he slouches a good bit so he’s like 3 inches shorter and is purposefully clumsy (Christopher reeve) and he wears baggy clothes so people can’t see the Superman Physique. The glasses change the colour of his eyes. He changes the pitch of his voice. As Superman it’s more deep and commanding but as Clark is softer, higher and more meek. He changes his hairstyle aswell. All those things, however small, add up. Individually they might be noticeable but no one is looking for this flying, tall, jacked, god basically, in the clumsy meek reporter with bad eyesight.
I'm like you, I get what the writer was trying to do with Pa Kent's death but it just wasn't well executed. In the books it's a heart attack and he learns the hard lesson that despite all he can do he can't save everyone.
I didn't like the tornado scene at first either but it's difficult to have Jonathan Kent give his life to prevent World War III over 'The Superboy' with a heart attack or (unrelated to events) cancer.
@@useliteski3381 I can't speak for Tyler Hall or what he specifically meant, but definitely the original Superman film (along with II) set the mold for all successful superhero movies that came afterward; MCU or otherwise. At the very least, the Chris Reeve Superman movies proved that superhero movies could be big box office successes; something they never really had been before Chris Reeve's Superman debuted. Just as the original Superman comic book did for all superhero comics to come... DC or Marvel's. That's *my* take on what Tyler Hall said, anyway. Could be wrong. But this is how I would state it myself.
@@jasontoddman7265 i think i got it on the second time i thought about it. def a testament to how successful they can be in a box office setting. your take is great. absolutely blew peoples minds. i think i remember reading it was by far the most expensive movie ever made at that point; def a game changer!
His dad originally died from a heart attack. It was an important lesson for Clark that for all his strength, he can't fix everything and should cherish life. It was a gross mischaracterization of Superman to change Pa Kent's death to a scenario that he could've saved him from, but didn't. Like, what lesson did he learn? Hide your abilities? Why? He's just exposing himself a couple years after.
As for Clark passing among people; one time, Charlie Chaplain entered a Charlie Chaplain impersonator contest, and LOST! Also, Andy Kaufman used to go to a diner, and clean up tables as a waiter, and wait for people to go "hey, you look like Andy Kaufman!" and he'd chuckle and go "yeah, I get that a lot".
@@suicunesolsan I've never been too interested in animated content for adults so you got me on my bias there. If it was anime I wouldn't have even turned it on(I know, I know my loss), and even then it was a bit too anime for me. But I love watching reactors see episodes 1, 5 and 8. To each their own!
Krypton once had many colonies and had explored multiple galaxies, but it eventually lead to multiple wars. They regressed back to its home planet for the sake of social stability. It had a peaceful but static society for centuries. Space travel was generally abandoned for being too disruptive. They turned to self-reflection and inward focus, but it lead to the destabilization of their planets core due to the mining. On top of that "scientists" of Krypton were actually more like historians rather than people who tested hypotheses. Jor-El was pretty much the only real scientist on his planet and when he discovered the impending doom of the planet, noone believed him. While Krypton might of had the technical aptitude to make space vessels they had none on hand in short notice not to mention building one after centuries of abandoning space travel.
With Clark's disguise throughout the decades usually he tends to slouch, people aren't looking for Superman in Clark so there's a sort of denial, and I believe once it was said the glasses were designed to throw people off. There have been a couple different bits of reasoning for why no one recognizes Clark. There's a comic story/movie... Superman: Red Son, where clark landed in Soviet Russia. If you're watching the next DC movie, BvS, you gotta do the director's cut. The theatrical took bits of the story out that didn't truly explain things.
_"There have been a couple different bits of reasoning for why no one recognizes Clark."_ What I feel they could do (especially in the comics) is to bring back a (diminished version of) an old superpower: Altering his appearance. By "super-tightening" his facial muscles he could exaggerate certain things whenever he's say getting his photo taken or talking with people who've seen the other up close e.g. as one he makes his cheekbones more pronounced, as the other he does something to make them less so, and maybe in connection with specific expressions e.g. Clark's "smile for the camera" and Superman's make them look barely alike. In a franchise like the DCEU you could just showcase it once, wouldn't even take much CGI, and then just skirt around it, make them go "C'mon, WB, we want to see the face trick again."
I recall an interview with the queen mother where she said she would go out of the palace in normal common folk cloths and some people would tell her how much she resembled the queen. I think it is the same for Clark.
Hello Natalie, If you want more back story on Superman then you can watch Superman and Superman 2 (staring Christopher Reeve). Sure they are older movies but they're still good. Also the T.V. Series of Smallville is a good one to watch because it starts when Clark (Superman) is in High School and it covers a lot including him arriving on Earth as a baby and him finding out that he's basically an alien . There are 10 seasons of Smallville, so yea it's a long one. Actually, let's make it official... could you please watch Superman (1978) and Superman 2 both Staring Christopher Reeve. Superman 2 is a continuation of the first one.
I hope she reads the comments too. The more people mention Smallville the more likely she is to see Smallville mentioned. Especially if she's just skimming through the comments. I just hope that she isn't hesitant from watching Smallville due to the 10 seasons.
Superman is one of the first superheroes ever created so yes, there will be elements of the story that are cliche'd due to the time in which it was created but it's a really great film and Henry Cavill plays a great Superman in all of the films he's in.
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The whole Superman wearing glasses thing has actually been proven to work very well. People only see what they want to see. Even Henry Cavill himself proved the theory by standing in the middle of Time Square at mid day wearing a Superman shirt. standing right under a massive Superman billboard and no body recognized him at all.
DID HE HAVE GLASSES ON!?
Tbf he did that when the movie originally came out, so he wasn’t really that well known anyway, before then I had only known or seen him on immortals
@@-Antagonist Actually he was. The billboard was for Batman v Superman.
Just shows how many people don't pay attention to things usually in their own little world.
@@-Antagonist He actually did it for BvS so he was well known
Natalie - "This isn't the first time? How many tragic accidents have happened in this town?!?"
Smallville TV Show - (Homer backing into bushes meme)
Including Lois Lane turning into a giant fat balloon monster who couldn't stop eating 🤣
oh no 😂
@@NatalieGoldReacts please watch batman under the red hood movie.
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@@Hulkzilla0... almost felt like I was back in school 😂
It's been explained in the comic books that he doesn't just put on glasses. He changes the pitch of his voice, he changes his posture, he rarely looks people in the eye as Clark Kent, so he essentially becomes a different person. Christopher Reeve did a great job of depicting that difference in his version of Superman.
Also, Batman has pointed out that Perry White probably knows Clark is Superman, but he keeps it quiet much the same way Gordon probably figured out who Batman was but pretends not to know.
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I would love a history on Gordon's point of view and he knows bot Bruce doesn't figured out yet and we watch him solving a mistery with batman, it would be interesting.
The thing is, as much as I like Henry Cavill as Superman, he really doesn’t play into the difference between Clark and Superman at all. Like you say Reeve did it really well, Cavill is literally just wearing glasses.
@@heitoroliveira5166 The closest we have is in Injustice where he points out that of course he knew who Batman was and that Batgirl was his daughter. He always knew about her sneaking out in costume with Dick Grayson. "How? I'M A DETECTIVE!"
The PERFECT example of the difference of presence that reeves portrayed is in the second film after the whole hand in fire thing
Fun Fact Nat, When the second film was coming out, Henry Cavill walked around Times Square, under the huge posters of him, with a superman Tshirt and a pair of glasses and wasn't stopped once. So yeah the glasses thiing can actually work but normally its also his behaviour as Clark that conviences people he can't be superman even if he looks like him. The OG films with Christopher Reeve did this extremely well.
Henry Cavil is just an actor and at that point not very well known, unlike Superman who literally saved the entire planet and we expect no one, not even jouranlists whose job it it to look deeper, not to recognise him?? The glasses thing is stupid, and always has been, but it's true to the comics at least.
@@jamesb7924 problem wkth that. 1. He had already been Superman and was plenty well known as the new Superman. The movie may not have joined the billion dollar club, but it still made a big fat stack of cash and did really well. 2. Superman is well known, not Clark Kent, and you'd be surprised how even people you know might not recognize you when you present and carry yourself in a different way than they expect to see you. People often don't recognize what they don't expect to see. As it pertains to Henry Cavill, nobody expects to see a famous celebrity just standing out in the middle of Times Square, so they don't notice.
@@jamesb7924 But I mean if there was a giant electronic posters in Times Square with his face on it, surely someone would notice whether he was popular or not.
people see what they want to see, what they expect to see. I myself, have not been recognized when I wasnt wearing my glasses.
Why do you all continue to defend the glasses thing? It's dumb and you all know it
I am genuinely astounded by how little Natalie knew about Superman going into this. Like… just through pop culture osmosis. It’s wild.
@Daniel Chávez Woah, check out Superman Man of Tomorrow, or the old Justice League cartoon. If you are down to read, then All Star Superman is a good shout to. Superman is first and foremost a friend, and while I liked this interpretation, it isn't the Superman people who read comics or watched animated shows fell "in love" with.
Watch the old Superman movies with Christopher Reeves as well! While the effects and action as well as dialogue can feel outdated, the characterization of Superman is closest to comic accuracy we have seen in live action.
The thing I also really dislike about Snyder's interpretation is that he doesn't understand Clark Kent is who he is. Meaning that Superman is the mask even though this interpretation and people who don't read the comics or seen animated shows disagree. There are also 'two" Clark Kents, Metropolis/Daily Planet Clark and Smallville Clark. While the Metropolis Clark Kent is sort of a disguise, Smallville Clark is his true identity or self. After all, he didn't even know he was an alien until he was much older (and in some variations not until he was an adult even if he discovered his powers before hand). For some, including Synder, Superman/Kal-El is his true self and Clark Kent is a disguise. In actuality and in majority of comics and animation, as well as to Superman fans who have known the character for long (based on what I have seen on the internet), this isn't true. It isn't like Batman where even in the comics Batman is Bruce's true self, not Bruce Wayne. Joss Whedon even tried to show this with his intro with the cgi to take off Henry Cavil's mustache in his version of Justice League but for obvious reasons that movie failed.
23:29 You have to admit that her casual comment about Superman needing to "zoom around the earth really fast" was a bit sus.... 🤔
Natalie is a normie. She didn't grow up in nerd circles. Everyone doesn't know that Superman is from Smallville or that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
@@Aldridge517 every one knows bruce wayne is batman
The most recognizable pop culture icon next to Spider-Man and Mickey Mouse.
Henry Cavill actually did an experiment and stood under the Batman V Superman movie poster in Timesquare wearing a Superman shirt to see if anyone would recognize him and no one did.
There's actually a lot more to the glasses thing than people realize.
I remember that! Apparently people don’t recognize anyone immediately if you wear glasses when one usually doesn’t lol. But NYC is a bad example, having lived there- most new Yorkers are too busy going about their day to care to look for faces, they gotta get to work/home or catch the next train. Seeing celebs on trains is fairly common. Once saw Keanu Reeves on the train. Neat sighting but it takes a while for me to get home. No time for an autograph.
Maybe people were actively averting their eyes from the poster.
Maybe if the movie wasn’t horrible and they watched it, but they all skipped it,so that’s an theory 😮
@@derekjanson2328 I work in NYC & especially given today's obsession with the phone, most people would NEVER figure out Clark is Superman just by him walking among us in disguise. Metropolis is the perfect hiding spot for him, actually. Him living in Smallville, though? That's an entirely different story, one the movie kind of hints at.
well damn that's hilarious
Zod's story is a tragic one. He was literally designed to be a protector of his people. His destiny was programed into him before his birth. Everything he did was to protect his people but without them he had nothing and wanted to die. Unfortunately, he was programed to never die without a fight. He let Superman beat him. He wanted to die and he wanted the future of his people to do it. So, in a sense, he could still die for his people. Also, you should open more videos with you singing. You have a lovely singing voice.
Terrance MF'n Stamp is the Zod to end all Zods.
Agree on her singing
I don't agree about letting Clark beat him. More like when he knew he was done and beaten. To be taken as a prisoner just wasn't going to fly. So why not force Clarks hand and die a warriors death. Or accomplished what he wanted by killing the people that Clark sided with over his own race.
@@phillipzan2005 I think this is more in line with the Kryptonian warrior culture they established. Zod was probably looking for a good death
At the end Zod wanted to be killed in battle, he knew he lose.. he had nothing more .. he find the way to been killed by Clark
When filming the original 1978 Superman movie, Christopher Reeve constantly had fans clamoring around him when he was filming on location in the Superman suit but whenever he went out in the Clark Kent suit and glasses, no one recognized him and he was left alone.
With this film, I feel like Zack Snyder hinted at the idea that people knew but kept quiet about it. Having grown up in a small town, word gets around via whispers and rumors. Smallville residents either knew or had suspicions. The fight in the IHOP, for example, Pete recognized him but remained quiet because he knew the kind of person Clark is.
Watch the 1978 version its the best one ever
@Wayne Sturgulewski You talking to me or Natalie?
@@waynesturgulewski7173 Nothing's as good as Man of Steel.
I want ihop chicken
@@Powerhaus88 Blasphemy.
Christopher Reeve, the first Superman in the movies, did a perfect job representing the disguise as Clark Kent. His back was hunched, he was too awkward, you never see the definition of his muscles because of the posture, his voice is higher and he startles a lot and always avoiding eye contact. There's a scene where Lois shoots him and then he suddenly stands tall and straight, his voice deepens as he notices he couldn't keep the charade from her. It's a perfect character transition.
there's like a whole slew of groups now that would try to get cancelly if someone tried to "act" like that..
@@michaelhawk-fitz7563 I think you've got some insecurities showing...
Reeves did a master class on disguise playing the role.
Bill explained some of the subtleties of Clark Kent in the movie Kill Bill: ruclips.net/video/I_cEoK1mXms/видео.html
Came here to say this exact thing but you beat me to it lol
As someone rewatching Smallville, the old TV show about his teen years, when you asked "How many tragic accidents have happened in this town?" I almost spit out my drink 😂
For real it's like a everyday occurrence there 😂
As I recall, that "so many days since the last incident" sign would have just been flipping back and forth from one to zero in Smallville.
OMG! I thought the same thing when she said that! LOLLLL
watching that show as an adult I saw a lot I missed as a kid, like all the cu**ol*ing.....it is essentially Clark watching other males bed the female he love lol, for 10 seasons
him jumping really high at the beginning is a nod to his first appearance in DC Comics. Originally, Superman couldnt fly. His ability to fly originated from the Superman radio show that premiered in 1940
"who can leap small buildings in a single bound?" classic.
Jumping came from John Carter, for the record.
It actually came from the first Superman cartoon, because flying was easier to animate.
@@DrLipkin ,,, Yes that would be the Max Fleischer cartoons from 1940-1941 which were a series of 17 short Animated films ...
It was genuinely so frickin' fun seeing you piece together these things that a Superman nerd might take for granted. Like when you pieced together that Kryptonite was probably material left from Krypton's destruction! Just a lot of fun seeing the movie through your eyes, Natalie! Great video as always!
In snyderverse the kryptonite doesn't come floating from space but created by the world engine as a by product of terraforming.
@@changsangma1915 yeah but it’s still nice to see.
@@changsangma1915 The World Engine has materials from Krypton's soil and plants to help in the Terraforming process so it's still made from the Planet.
Natalie, If you watch Batman vs superman I strongly recommend the ultimate edition and not the theatrical edition. The editors took out some of the most important scenes out and they’re only in the ultimate edition.
yeah, wouldnt want her to miss any of the terribleness.
@@ge2719 The ultimate edition is miles ahead of the theactrical edition. For example, it has more scenes showing motivation for Batman.
@@ge2719 Yea a dreadful movie is now 3hours long but it actually makes sense. Personally I rather the shorter version. Even making sense it’s a awful movie. So why torture yourself with another 30mins.
Oh man, and the Snyder cut. That was self fart sniffing the movie.
Yes, definitely this. The extended cut turns a movie that seems pretty awkward that requires the audience to know a lot of stuff, and explains it to explain character motivations much better
First _Interstellar_ and now _Man of Steel_ in such close proximity makes me happy for all the Hans Zimmer soundtrack enjoyment.
Hans ❤
That MOS soundtrack has been on my workout playlist for years now. So epic
The street they used for downtown Smallville is my mom's hometown and you can see my Grandpa's flooring store in those shots. He passed away a few years ago causing us to close the store, but he was so excited when they were filming there, so this movie is nostalgic to me for that reason. My dad got to have a 5 second conversation with Henry Cavill while they were filming and now calls him "Hank" as if they are best friends! 😂 Also, fun fact, the giant American flag with Welcome to Smallville is still painted on that brick wall and they now have a little Superman museum inside the train station across the street.
thank you, that's so interesting to hear
That's awesome. Where is it?
@@Tyler_W Plano, IL
Natalie - you NEED to watch the classic 1978 "Superman" movie starring Christopher Reeve. It has a VERY different vibe from Man of Steel, and it might be interesting to us to see someone see the movies in reverse order.
No just no!
@@josephgonzalez4390 yes just yes
In the comics the glasses work a little better. Clark is shy, doesn’t talk much and he also adjusts his posture to make himself more slouched and he stands up straight as Superman.
But I’m pretty sure Henry Cavill stood somewhere in public with a Superman shirt and glasses and no one recognised him so it works more than we think lol
Times Square, NYC! he did it to promote BvS
I remember Mythbuster Kari Byron talked about being able to walk around the convention floor of SDCC with a baseball cap on and NOBODY recognized her, even people she knew and ran into didn't notice it was her. She said that overdoing it (hat+glasses+hoodie) would probably draw attention, but just wearing one thing not normally associated with you can be just enough to get people to overlook you.
When you said, "That was the purpose he was created with." That was very important. The main theme of this movie is that Clark is better than Zod because he chose to be a hero, while Zod was forced into it by his society even before he was born.
That's why in the scene with the priest, the stained glass window shows the Garden of Gethsemane. It's the one time in the Gospel when Jesus reveals that he has a choice about whether or not to follow the plan and is considering not doing it.
There is no such thing as "purpose", that is a myth we perpetuate out of egotism, but other than that I agree: it is Clark choosing.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps "Purpose" is the REASON for the choice that is made; the PURPOSE of an action is to fulfill a desired goal and, after the available options are evaluated, the option that you determine is the most likely to succeed is (or ought to be) the one that you choose.
A "purpose" can't exist INDEPENDENT of a "choice".
What Zod was referring to was the Kryptonian society's ethos, which holds the view that an individual's "PURPOSE FOR LIVING" is chosen by their SOCIETY, by their SOCIETY'S "NEEDS". Hence, Kryptonians are "purpose-built", quite literally. They are raised from childhood to fulfill their SOCIETY'S goals; the ONLY choices they are conditioned (intellectually/psychologically) to make are concerned with their designated place in society (scientist, soldier, politician, etc.).
Kal-El/Clark Kent was not raised under the same ethos, therefore EVERYTHING in his life is a matter of choice.
Thank you for your comment.
Understand what's being seen and as obviously undertone to the material.
Supes' Judeo-Christian connection has been there for years and some people can't handle it.
I respect it because it's positive and slightly lifts the fiction into more than just storytelling.
People can actually learn from it and understand it.
@@atlasisshrugging _""Purpose" is the REASON for the choice that is made; the PURPOSE of an action is to fulfill a desired goal and, after the available options are evaluated, the option that you determine is the most likely to succeed is (or ought to be) the one that you choose."_
No, you're adding a fictional element that adds nothing and changes nothing.
If my desired goal is to be on the other side of the crosswalk and I choose to calmly walk across the crosswalk, the reason for my choice was the desire for the goal (to be on the other side of the crosswalk). If I want to alert my friend to my presence and I choose to wave and holler the reason for me to choose to wave my hand and holler was to alert my friend to my presence.
The options/alternatives (jog across the crosswalk or make my way toward my friend to potentially go "Hey, Mr. Magoo." if they don't notice me) make no difference as far as I can tell.
"Ought" is another myth that we perpetuate out of egotism. There is nothing I "ought" to do, we're like fish in the sea in that sense. We can even swim into a doomsday machine ending up there after a Superman vs. supervillain fight and brush against a button and blow up the planet, the universe will have no opinion about our behavior, just see the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960s.
_"A "purpose" can't exist INDEPENDENT of a "choice"."_
"Purpose" only exists in our imagination and is therefore a fiction. Choice cannot make it non-fiction since nothing can.
_"What Zod was referring to was the Kryptonian society's ethos, which holds the view that an individual's "PURPOSE FOR LIVING" is chosen by their SOCIETY, by their SOCIETY'S "NEEDS"."_
I understand that is how they would think of it but the fact remains that "purpose" (and "needs/need/necessity") is a myth, it is entirely imaginary.
_"They are raised from childhood to fulfill their SOCIETY'S goals; the ONLY choices they are conditioned (intellectually/psychologically) to make are concerned with their designated place in society (scientist, soldier, politician, etc.)."_
They are essentially brainwashed by their own system, yes.
_"Kal-El/Clark Kent was not raised under the same ethos, therefore EVERYTHING in his life is a matter of choice."_
Yes... although it's a DC universe so that conclusion will become flattened like a pancake under the weight of time travel and cosmic entities and parallell universes and the kitchen sink.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Yeah, none of that is definitely true. At least not to the level of certainty you seen to have.
Not only is a deterministic universe a very viable philosophical theory, but a deterministic universe is a viable theory within the realm of quantum mechanics.
This means that "purpose" could be clearly defined for every entity on the planet, if it were true of course.
And no, you are not the person to make that call. That is unless you want to suggest that your personal conclusion is somehow greater than the sum of every philosopher and physicist within the last few hundred years or so.
Generally, he keeps his identities separate by conveying himself differently as Clark and as Superman. When he's being Superman, he's super stoic and stands tall, while as Clark he has a slouch to look smaller and takes on a dorky, awkward personality. Because of this, even when his identity gets revealed, everyone who knows Clark would think it's outrageous that he could possibly be Superman because he presents himself as being so weak and nerdy.
That's Christopher Reeves' version, and a few comic runs. George Reeves acted pretty normally as Clark, as did Dean Cain and Henry Cavill. Most of Clark's modern takes he doesn't do the slouch nor acts weak and nerdy. Their takes aren't bad, and actually more comic accurate, but Reeves is more believable that people wouldn't notice Clark and Superman as being the same person.
@@kenjisparks the whole point why people don't recognize clark as superman is because the POWER superman uses and shows are NONHUMAN a perfect specimen if he is human. that being said Clark wearing glasses is giving a person being imperfect (having imperfect vision) becomes the immediate feeling of people. that is why glasses are visually the easiest signifier of someone's intelligence because being "imperfect" and trying to be better(wearing glasses) shows real humanity and the trying part is the strongest emotion conveyed by the glasses.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 So if the gardener who cuts your grass every two weeks showed up wearing glasses one time you wouldn't believe it was him until he started gardening... interesting
I liked Grant Morrison's take in All Star Superman. Just a country boy who's too big and awkward for the city. And even when he's being clumsy and bumping into people, he's (more often than not) actually saving their life. Cause he's always Superman, he can't help it. It was actually listening to Grant Morrison just talk about Superman that gave me a whole new appreciation for the character.
One take on it has been that the vast majority of the world has never even considered that he might be someone other than Superman sometimes. If you're Superman, why bother being someone else?
For me, the best version of Superman's origin story is in "Superman: The Animated Series". That three part opening episode started one of my favourite versions of Superman.
@The Unknown Weirdness quick question, have you checked out superman & lois? because it's pretty fricken great as a representation of both clark AND superman. like, i've never been a fan of superman, he's always just bored me as a character and i never clicked with any of his adaptions UNTIL superman & lois. to me, he finally felt like a real person in that show. i'm only going into it so much here since you seem like a long-time fan and superman & lois kinda flies under the radar a bit (no pun intended)
Superman: The Animated Series is such an underrated part of the DCAU. The DCAU as a whole really nailed his character.
@@QuestionableLifeChoices Have you ever watched the Justice League episode "Comfort and Joy"? It does an amazing job of humanizing Clark and showing just what kind of person he is, what his values are, his relationship with his adoptive parents, and so forth, through the eyes of Martian Manhunter.
For me it is Smallville.
Omg finally! I’ve always been interested in natalie finally reacting to the early DCEU movies to see how she reacts to them
She wasn't missing much.
@@andresbarriga5305 more to react to the changes/tone and plot holes in real time while it took us years to see it
@@adamsbriee6330 tbh the snyder after all the hype isn't as special as I thought, imo his DCEU movies were OK at best but not too special 🤷♂️
@@andresbarriga5305 At least it's something different then the rinse and repeat marvel is now.
@@crimsonjedi different don't mean good. They aren't bad, but there is a reason there is a reboot happen. It needs to be more cohesive
This is still my wife's favorite CBM. It was really potent in the theater.
It's a shame they discarded Cavill.
He was born to be Superman.
I totally agree..
Wasn't he back as of Black Adam? Honestly, it was the best part of that movie. They didn't get rid of him again already, did they?
@@existenceisrelative yup. feckin wb...
@@existenceisrelative they fired him..
@@MikeBryanGaming Do they just... not _like_ money, or what?
I didn't think that much of the movie when it came out but over the years I grew to appreciate it as a coming of age slash alien invasion movie. There are some plot elements that are really weird choices but in the end I like how optimistic the ending was. It's too bad they didn't get to make a Man of Steel 2 where it was toned down for the destrction and we get more of a heartwarming story where the people see him as a real hero.
Honestly, for me, I liked the fact that they tried to give a somewhat realistic interpretation of what would happen if beings around Clark’s power level actually fought. Especially given nearly every other superhero fight just happens to take place in some abandoned location with lower stakes because of it.
I really do understand why people wanted another Superman movie that felt more like all the other superman movies and shows but I liked the fact that they did something different here. I fully admit that I’m a fan of risks being taken with characters, especially characters who have been set in a very specific mold for a looooooong time.
Honestly the vision of snyderverse was never about lasting peace but impending darkness for which the heroes have to put up with conflicting scenarios. The snyderverse was supposed to end with JL2 with Darkseid fulfilling what was destined to become of Earth's fate. It was to become the Endgame level battle. But now that's not happening with the rumoured reboot.
Hans Zimmer did the music, him and John Williams are 2 of the absolute best! Beautiful music in this film.
if you watch homelander in "The Boys" you see EXACTLY what happens when someone like superman ends up in the wrong place as a child. Would be halarious if you watched it!
Did not expect Nat to sing Three Doors Down for the intro. 10/10 would recommend.
it's a bop
Right. They don’t make ‘em like they used to.
The original Superman the movie with Christopher Reeve from 79 Is a true classic and Christopher Reeve plays Superman so well that you almost believe that a pair of glasses is enough to disguise him.
Especially because he did even a harder job to act clumsy as Clark, that helped even more lol. The first 2 superman movies from the 70s are my all time favs
Those movies are terrible
@NoctemAeternusMusic Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
11:43 It's funny because when Superman was first made, he never *was* able to fly, but just jump really far. They gave him the power to fly later on because they just thought it was natural for him.
Henry Cavill (The actor for Superman) went to time square while wearing a Superman shirt and nobody recognized him. So it's not improbable that people don't recognize someone you haven't met face to face with if they change their appearance.
I remember when Cavill did that and i loved that so much.
I also forgot to mention that he was taking pictures Infront of the Batman vs Superman poster.
Shaking my head. You should have started with Superman (1978). Do visit it someday. It's an entirely different animal to this film, most of the effects still stand up and it has the two of the greatest performances from the late great Christopher Reeve. It is quite sincere for a superhero movie but not too sincere (like Man of Steel). Funny and charming also.
That and Superman II. III and IV; not so much (not at all Reeve's fault however).
Agree. Cant stand this modern movie. Love the original
@@RobertNorton12013 Man of Steel isn't *too* horrible, but yeah I much prefer the original myself.
I still remember the amazing teaser trailer for this film, still gives ne goosebumps to this day
It was tremendous bro it really was
I saw it at the cinema when I watched TDKR for the first time
Best teaser ever seen 😱
@@tako-ren same thats when I saw it for the first time, so hype!
Trailer 3 was a better Superman movie than the final product
I felt so emotive with his father’s death …..😢
I live the dichotomy he faced regarding the advice from his two fathers. One wanted him to embrace his abilities and be a guiding Christ like figure to humanity,
another was a realistic grounded individual who knew he'd spend the rest of his life being dissected if he ever exposed himself, to the point he was willing to die to protect his identity, and in the end he managed to embrace both sides
Superman isn’t supposed to be a Jesus figure
@@itzsamic well Siegel and Schuster created the character based on a Messiah figure so your options are Momotaro from Japan, Moses, Jesus, or Brian from Monty Python, so pick one, I guess
@@phoenixdzk he’s based on Moses and a bit of Samson. Neither of whom are messianic figures in the same vein as Jesus (especially not Samson obviously). Siegel and Schuster didn’t even believe in Jesus
Christopher Reeve pulled off the glasses masterfully and it actually worked even in live action. Lois and Clark from the 90s also wasn't bad and the costuve scene was a lot of fun.
Yes he actually seemed like a different person, and it wasn't just the glasses, his whole posture and demeanor changed.
I especially like the part where he caught the bullet, and when Lois is not looking, he reveals it to the camera with a smirk.
Reeve really did an excellent job as Clark. He acts so timid and meek, clumsy and downright nerdy compared to his superman that it's much more believable. His build is also more average so he fits in the "everyman" role very well.
There's been a lot of explanations (and jokes and criticisms) about the Superman / Clark Kent face-blindness people seem to suffer in DC.
In the original comics and shorts, every man was kind of drawn as a big jacked dude, so in a suit and glasses Clark didn't stand out. In one of the comics (during the Silver age I think) the glasses were actually kryptonian tech that acted as a "notice-me-not" spell or Doctor Who-esque chameleon technology (why people don't question a blue police box; I think that changed later though).
Realistically, it's just fun writing-wise to give him a secret identity. To let him live as he grew up, a "normal person" able to blend in with others and enjoy life.
It wasn't just the glasses with Reeve though. He slouched over and was super clumsy and awkward. The hair was a bit different too. Nobody so far has played Clark Kent as differently as they played Kal El than Christopher Reeve did.
@@CraigKostelecky The hair was parted on different sides and Clark's was styled rather bland.
What I feel they could do (especially in the comics) is to bring back a (diminished version of) an old superpower: Altering his appearance. By "super-tightening" his facial muscles he could exaggerate certain things whenever he's say getting his photo taken or talking with people who've seen the other up close e.g. as one he makes his cheekbones more pronounced, as the other he does something to make them less so, and maybe in connection with specific expressions e.g. Clark's "smile for the camera" and Superman's make them look barely alike.
In a franchise like the DCEU you could just showcase it once, wouldn't even take much CGI, and then just skirt around it, make them go "C'mon, WB, we want to see the face trick again."
There's an "alternate reality" animated movie where Kal is actually the son of Zod instead of Jor, and when he arrives on Earth, he's found by a Mexican migrant family, and raised by them instead. As a result, he's still raised with a set of good values, and an appreciation for humanity. But he also has some of Zod's tendencies, and he's LIVED the consequences of humanity's dark side.
He's a bit more ruthless in how he does what he does, but he still very thoroughly and genuinely cares about helping others...especially the poverty-stricken and downtrodden masses. But...the dude is truly friggin brutal about it at times. He generally doesn't kill unless he has to, but when he sees the need, there's no hesitation and no remorse...but there is mercy in it. He never makes anyone suffer, no matter how he feels about them.
And then there's Superman: Red Son, where he is raised in the Soviet Union and takes over the rulership from Josef Stalin.
There is an animated justice league movie called "Flash Point", that movie explores what happens if the flash messes with time, and also shows superman landing somewhere else. Worth a watch imo
It is not worth a watch if you don't know basic DC comics lore.
yeah the DCAMU (DC Animated Movie Universe) is a big bag but Flashpoint is great. The Superman Animated Series would be a great place for Superman related stories the DCAU from the 1990s to 2000s is amazing.
@LittleGalaxyBoy Agreed, the only problem with that is that it's an animated series that ran for multiple years and is tied together with multiple other series as well.
Don't get me wrong, I'd really love for her to watch them all! I just don't see that working out on RUclips, so she'll likely not do that.
Red Son is also a great Elseworlds story (like Marvel's What If...) where he lands in Russia or similar and how the world would have changed. Granted many DC characters had a Russian counterpart in that, IIRC.
I think they made an animated movie about it, although I haven't seen it.
The flaspoint storyline only works if you know the history of the characters, unlike Natalie does
The reason why Jon didn't let Clark save him is the same reason he said maybe when Clark asked what he should've done with the bus. Jon was just looking out for his son so he can make a mature decision when the time is right.
We might just need more Natalie-singing content. Also, Clark's dad dying by tornado is so counter to the traditional story where he died of a heart attack. The idea was, he can do all these amazing feats, but couldn't have stopped his dad dying of a sudden medical problem. It's a specific lesson, not a "don't show nobody you're super." Otherwise, a solid Superman story. Oh, and, hehe, Henry went to Times Square before the Batman/Superman movie - so well after this one - wearing a Superman t-shirt. But even without glasses, no one recognized him. So, glasses probably actually work as well as a mask - most people don't see what they don't expect to see.
I liked the DCAU with him alive more.
@@christopherb501
Yeah!
I love it when Clark brings his hero buddies to the farm to have a dinner with his parents.
It wasn’t just the glasses that hid his ID in plain sight. Clark would change his entire posture and even the way he spoke to blend in with the human populous. Christopher Reeve pulls this off beautifully in his ‘70s portrayal as Superman. I forget which show did it also but they also confirmed that with a good disguise and changing how you carried yourself, you can actually fool people youre close to with the right disguise and the right act to go with it
You might be thinking of when the Corridor Crew put the glasses-disguise to the test: ruclips.net/video/sFANdxfirvI/видео.html
There's a great scene in the 2006 *Superman Returns* movie that directly addresses it as well. Lois is talking with her boyfriend/husband who has never met Clark, and he is suspicious that Clark might be Superman. Superman overhears them discussing and convinces them otherwise by acting Clarkish.
Edit: ruclips.net/video/qy-YgIPA11o/видео.html
If you want to see how the glasses thing could work, check out the 1978 movie. It's campy as all get-out by today's standards, but Christopher Reeve absolutely sold the difference.
I love that film so much! It was better than this, easily.
One of my favorite scene is in part 2 when he transforms right in front of Lois. The change in posture and demeanor by Reeves sells it so completely.
seconded!
Here's the scene. ruclips.net/video/tNUu6Lf9mVU/видео.html
The comments list all the reasons why it worked and on camera. No VFX, magic or technobabble. Reeve was an underrated actor.
Except it doesn't work. You, the audience, need to suspend disbelief for it to work. Otherwise, Lois is rather dumb to not notice.
No matter how bad Zod may be viewed. When he said “If you
love these people so much, then you can mourn for them”. That hit. Mainly because Zod lost his purpose, passion and his drive. I think for anyone, losing your personal purpose would be extremely difficult. But what also hit when Zod said that was his lack of ability to adapt like Kal did. Both Zod and Kal were about protecting their people. Zod was lacking a broader vision as to why Krypton destroyed itself and lost reasoning to be rebuilt. Especially when you have to take and destroy another planet to rebuild your own.
Faora said evolutions always wins - but Clark was the one who evolved.
@@SunlessNick revolution..not evolution.its what she said
@@wambokodavid7109 She said evolution
love zod’s monologue about how kal has taken his purpose and soul
exactly. lot of ppl just don't get the scene. Zod failed his purpose. and wanted to punish Kal by killing everyone else, just as Kal has, in his view, killed his second chance at having a Krypton. his monologue was filled with emotion. and he decided it already: "there's only one way this ends, Kal. either you die, or I do." Zod did not want to beat Kal. he wanted to kill his soul.
Interesting Fact: When Clark cauterizes Lois' wound he's actually using TWO abilities simultaneously. His Heat Vision which is self explanitory, and his microscopic vision to pinpoint the exact location that needs to be cauterized
That’s how he shaves too, but he needs a mirror for that
Well, it had already become canon he can do that. Fun fact: Originally he didn't have a powerful heat vision, he just focused his x-ray vision on a specific point like the sun through a magnifying glass.
The microscopic vision is something that NO OTHER LA version of Superman has shown
@@joshholland8564 Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that in the comics (it was a shiny metal piece of his ship that wouldn't melt that easily) but for the cartoon you are correct.
@@bemasaberwyn55 _"The microscopic vision is something that NO OTHER LA version of Superman has shown"_
LA version? You mean Hollywood version? In The Quest For Peace Lex Luthor tells Superman to take a look at someone's DNA and Superman just looks at that someone and then they talk about it.
The glasses thing works in the comics and other adaptations because when he's Clark Kent, he acts like a bit of a shy person, but when he's Superman he's the complete opposite.
I've always felt it's much easier to believe with Christopher Reeve's portrayal.
Two totally different sets of mannerism.
I saw an interview with someone from the CIA saying that very small changes in appearance can make the observer see someone differently, especially if observing casually. Average sized, clean shaven white male. Who cares to take a closer look? Used all the time in fieldcraft. Interviewee specifically mentioned the Clark Kent/Superman thing. Glasses, hair, clothing is more than enough. He could also change his gait, facial expression, stature if he wanted a more pronounced difference. The important part is that he has no noticeable facial markings like scars or tattoos
For better use of the Superman story, I recommend you watch the 78-79 Superman movie starring the late great Christopher Reeve.
Also she did the typical nonfan thing of "how do they not recognize him passed a pair of glasses?" Argument.
This is also subtly covered in the Reeve film
"better use" lol, you are acting like the tried to the exact same story
Reeve is still Superman for me.
@@hoya1178 no, considering
A- Jonathan Kent never died in the original comic story, him dying was an edit on the part of the Salkinds.
B- the Richard Donner/Lester film tackled the death of Jonathan Kent better than MOS did.
And C- the film goes into better detail on the dichotomy in character difference between Clark Kent and Superman beyond the "oh how can no one else see it's him with glasses?" It's more than that and the original film shows that off well
@@ajclements4627 same here dude, I grew up with him, and to this day, the movie poster holds true "you'll believe a man can fly"
Naw, that is the boy scout version. Its outdated and even the comics retro-rebooted Superman because of it. Cavil's is the Superman from the 1980s comics onward.
There's a scene in the 1978 Superman movie where Chrisopher Reeve in full Clark Kent mode takes off his glasses, seems to grow three inches in height as he straightens up, takes on a deeper voice, a different facial look, and, for a moment, we see Superman there in Clark's business suit. Then he changes his mind and goes back to being Clark. It was spookily great acting.
I will say your criticism on pa Kent’s death is a main one people have. I personally don’t mind it, but I would have liked, as shown in other stories, that he died by some disease (heart or cancer) just to show that Clark can only do so much. Even with his amazing abilities, he is still limited.
Also, yes there is a show called Smallville which I would highly recommend. One of my favorite shows ever.
I didn't like it at first either but the difference is you can't have Jonathan Kent die to prevent World War III over 'The Superboy' with a disease.
On one hand I agree that it's kind of an odd death considering Clark's powers but on the other - what is the fastes way to explain why Clark would become a superhero? His dad was just a human and look how brave and kind he was, ready to die for others and to protect his sons secret. Also just papa Kent being a badass for however short we had him 😁
I always liked the idea of what they were going for though it probably wasn’t best the answer about what to do with the school bus
I agree, and I get why they did it that way, I just think they could have come up with a much more elegant solution. Your idea is a great one, too, and matches the original comics.
@@dianak6319 _"On one hand I agree that it's kind of an odd death considering Clark's powers"_
Well, that's the thing: Clark could save him but not without risking exposure and Jonathan saw the big picture, all of mankind might pay the price for that. Clark is 17 in that scene so having Cavill play him there, despite how young he looks, is arguably a mistake.
Semi-SPOILER: The sequel heavily hints that Jonathan prioritized Martha over the dog and himself.
The interesting thing about this video is that Natalie's dog is just back there chilling out. None of this, "Why is mom yelling at the thing?" and coming over to see what's up. The dog is just so used to it now.... 🤣
There're some great films in the DC Extended Cinematic Universe. I'm glad you are checking them out! Here's a list of the other DC Extended Cinematic Universe films:
- Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Cut)
- Suicide Squad (Extended Cut)
- Wonder Woman
- Zack Snyder's Justice League (The Long Cut)
- Aquaman
- Shazam!
- Birds of Prey
- Wonder Woman 1984
- The Suicide Squad
- Black Adam
(And, Upcoming for this Year)
- The Flash
- Blue Beetle
- Shazam! Fury of the Gods!
- Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Next one she watched is Wonder Woman. She isn't planning on watching all of the DCEU movies :)
she probably only needs to watch like 4-5 of these...Wonder Woman, Justice League (snyder cut), Shazam, The Suicide Squad (Jame Gunn), and the PeaceMaker show (James Gunn)...James Gunn stuff in particular is great. most of this list is MIDS.
Hi Nat!
I'm glad you watched Superman! You mentioned Smallville, which is one of my all time favorite shows. I'll be honest, there are a lot of things in the first 4 seasons (He's still in high school) to complain about, but I'd absolutely love for you to watch the show. Smallville hands down is the best representation of Clark Kent and Lex Luthor I could imagine. Honestly, I even think the cheesy stuff that isn't great about some of the seasons, would make for some pretty fantastic content haha.
Also, still waiting for you to watch my favorite movie: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.
Either way, love your content Nat, wish you the best and take care!
I would add my vote to watching Smallville. It's a great take on a young Clark Kent. If nothing else check out the Pilot episode and see if it's your cup of tea. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
I would love to see her watch smallville. I feel like the first four seasons has its cheesy moments but I still love them. It becomes a lot less cheesy tho in the later seasons and it’s just very good. I think aside from Christopher reeves it’s the best representation of superman on screen. It gets all the core ideas of superman perfectly which I feel like man of steel was lacking in
While I know people can be mixed on this movie, I DO think it has some of the best superpowered action scenes and definitely an INCREDIBLE soundtrack. I looped it a ton studying in college.
It’s literally just the the dad death scene that was bad for me
Great reaction! Yes Kryptonite is pieces of his old home planet, and Earth's sun is what makes him have powers, but also makes him incredibly susceptible to Kryptonite and so it weakens him
Eh, in some canon it has nothing to do with Earth's Sun. Personally I would have more of that, that Kryptonite basically "spikes" the yellow sunlight, causing Superman's body to "bleed" energy internally.
They lifted the Tornado plot directly from the Smallville TV show, except in that (SPOILERS) Clark goes into the thing himself. In various versions of the Superman Mythos Jonathan Kent either normally dies from a heart attack or is still around in Clarks Life offering advice and guidance. Him dying from something Clark can't stop is important but the Tornado just ain't it.
I didn't like the tornado scene at first either but it's difficult to have Jonathan Kent give his life to prevent World War III over 'The Superboy' with a heart attack or (unrelated to events) cancer.
The tornado part was, he know his kid was managed save him, but not in front of people. He know he will get attention by anyone. He wants him to hav a normal life and someday he will ready and rise up.
I loved in the Superman/Batman book where Superman was walking with Supergilr and she figure because people see him as such a powerful being, they would never expect him to be a normal guy.
Smallville was an amazing show. Cheesy at times but it had its moments. I liked Henry Cavill as Superman in this movie because he looked very similar to and reminded me of Tom Welling in the Smallville scenes. I'd like to think that their resemblence wasn't a coincidence.
Well, they both look like superman. Casting didn't call for short pudgy blondes.
• Krypton is the Planet
• Kryptonians are the People, and
• Kryptonite is the Mineral that makes Kryptonians weak
Edit:
• Krypto is Superman's Dog
Pretty much all of this is covered in Superman 1978 which is a much better introduction to the character of Superman.
13:28 I know it seems like a good idea but a highway overpass is one of the worst places you can be during a tornado. Because the space narrows as it goes up the wind will actually accelerate through the spot where everyone tries to hide. This makes it easier for the wind to "grab" and throw you.
They also become a repository for flying debris. You're much better off in a ditch or in your car, ducking as low as possible and covering your head with your arms and anything that might lessen the impact of debris like floor mats etc.
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Woah... is no one gonna talk about Natalie's impressive singing voice. That was a great intro.
She sings from time to time, and I'm always happy when she does.
This is gold, she sings this neat tune ❤️ so nostalgic
Her singing is much better than her reaction 'skills'!
I love the idea of Nat approaching a co-worker in an office and saying "Hey new guy, aren't you that alien monster guy that destroyed the city a while back? That guy looked just like you."
29:26 That's the thing as well. Unlike the Waynes, who have to die for Bruce to develop into Batman, the Kents do not have to die for Clark to become Superman. DC has rebooted itself a few times, with each universe having a new take on the Kents and how their actions shape Clark as a Superman. During the Golden Age, The Kents would die seemingly of old age right before Clark becomes an adult. On Jonathan Kent's deathbed, he would say, "Clark Kent is a.. Superman! Remember, because that's what you are... A Superman." saying this to a Clark in his 20s, I believe.
DC then introduced a new continuity that would become the mainline continuity, dubbed Earth-1, home to a new version of Superman for the Silver Age of comics. The Golden Age continuity with the original origin of these characters would be known as Earth-2 and would still keep getting stories with those versions of characters, allowing them to age etc.
On Earth-1 the Kents were given the names Jonathan and Martha, who were depicted as being slightly younger than their Earth-2 counterparts. Unlike Earth-2, where Clark becomes Superman only after the deaths of the Kents, here on Earth-1, Clark is inspired to become a hero during his teenage years, becoming Superboy alongside the Legion of Superheroes from the future. All of this is set mainly within Smallville. The Kents also die after Clark Graduates from High School. The Kents take a tropical vacation but fall victim to a rare island disease that renders them bedsick. Both die, and Superboy leaves Smallville for Metropolis, becoming Superman in his early 20s. Not the biggest fan of how the Kent's die on Earth-1.
DC would then have a massive Multiverse crossover event with Crisis on Infinite Wars that destroyed Earths across the Multiverse with Earth-1, Earth-2 and others coming together to stop the anti-monitor. This includes Earth-1 Superman and the older Earth-2 Superman. Ultimately, the Multiverse was killed, and a new reality was born, grouping the histories of Earth-1, Earth-2, and others into a single continuity. Here we have DC's post-crisis era (1986 to 2011), its most iconic and beloved continuity, home to some of the best comics and stories. John Byrne told Superman's new origin in Man of Steel. The Kent's don't die in this continuity, allowing Clark to receive essential guidance in becoming Superman into his adulthood. Martha Kent even designs his outfit for him, as Clark becomes Superman in his early 20s. Jonathan Kent would later have a Heart Attack after 22 years long streak of being alive in the comics since 1986's reboot.
We later got Superman: Secret Origin in 2009, which showcased Clark Kent's Superboy era, a modernization of his adventures with the Legion of Superheroes. Also, decades before this, during WW2, we had the Justice Society of America who before the reboot only existed on Earth-2 so they were brought into the history of this new universe in a way that made so much sense. the older generation of hero's including Jay Garrick's Flash and Alan Scott Green Lantern. These hero's were active during the 1940s to 1950s who would later inspired characters like The modern Flash, Green Lantern, Batman, and of course Superman. So this universe was home to existing heroes even before Clark arrived on Earth, later inspiring him to become a hero himself and the creation of the Justice League, based on the Justice Society.
DC then rebooted in 2011, giving birth to the New 52, a continuity that went for a moody and edgy tone. This was achieved by killing off the Kents in a car accident on the night of Clark's high school prom. So, a young 18-year-old Clark had to grow up without the guidance of his family, giving us a very moody Superman. The Justice Society of America never formed in this reality, so the world or the Kents never seen or heard about superhumans until Clark came along. So, like in the film Man of Steel, the Kent's recommended that Clark keep his powers hidden so he never developed them leading to him not being able to save his parents from the crash.
DC then rebooted again with Rebirth, reverting back to the Secret Origin (2009) story for the basics of this Superman, even using the same art design. This time, Clark was able to save his parents from the car accident that killed them in the New 52 thanks to the Kent's recalling stories of the Justice Society of America allowing Clark to become a hero of his own instead of locking his powers away from the world. This universe was created as a reaction to the negative feedback of the New 52, returning to a more classic status quo in character depictions and designs yet still modernizing it. The Kent's are very much alive again. So yeah, the fates of the Kent's shape what kind of Superman we get in the story. James Gunn is working on his new Superman film, but I feel he'll keep the Kents around for a while.
The coolest thing about this movie is how they made the fighting basically the same as the Dragon Ball Z anime. Gave me nostalgia.
DBZ + Akira
well.. this is what a Superman fight would be like. or rather, what 2 very unexperienced superpowered beings fighting each other in the middle of a city would be like. lots of destruction and death.
There's a scene in the 1978 Superman movie which is probably the most believable version of the glasses-on-glasses-off transformation. It's basically that he's usually so dorky that you would never believe he's actually Superman.
One of my favorite moments in all of film. He actually seems to grow inches taller. Plus there's no cuts between when he takes off as Superman from Lois' balcony and appears at her door as Clark.
Some of the best comics show that EVERYTHING about Clark Kent changes when he puts on the costume. Posture, body language, diction, assertiveness. And yes, he takes off glasses. And that last is all Snyder noticed, while the old movies did their best to actually make a change. One of the subtle things is that in Richard Donner's version, Clark Kent and Superman part their hair in opposite directions.
I completely disagree with you guys, as much as I love those movies, because it makes Lois look like a complete moron.
The glasses thing is a classic thing. In some stories the glasses have some magical powers that make him look different, but in most of the stories he just pretend to be an idiot, innocent journalist so people would never think he's Superman, and the glasses are just a tpuch to make it not that obvious
Where he got the “magical” glasses tho? 🤔
Not magic glasses, they just change the color of his eyes by making them more human blue than alien blue. Also, he has a low level telepathic ability that causes people to just not connect the two faces.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 The glasses aren't magic. The one off story that tried to explained how the glasses help told how the Kryptonian lenses magnified his power of super-hypnosis the he was unconsciously using to influence people into seeing him differently. The concept didn't stick though. Happened in Superman #330 but was never mentioned again after that;
@@michaelash8552 I think I even read that story. The reason behind the glasses was, because standard glasses would melt as soon as he used his heat vision, he had to make them from material of his ship. And that enhanced his "hypno-vision" which made him look as meek to everyone, as long as they were standing in front of him.
In the 1978 live-action movies, Christopher Reeve always pulled the glasses down to look above the frames when he did anything with Superman's vision.
In the Lois & Clark series his mom told him no one would look at his face when he wore his costume - it also had the best explanation for the costume itself ("Why are you wearing that" - "My Mom made it for me!") The show also had a great scene where a villain was mocking Lois Lane for never noticing the similarity.
@@Cau_No Yeah I think getting the lenses from remains of his rocket came from a Superboy story. The glasses being his disguise is kind of an incomplete trope. If you've ever read any of the Golden Age comics the disguise was more Clark was meek and mild ( a pushover) and the glasses help sell that where Superman was Bold and rough (much more so than what people picture now) and force of nature. A people would not think two such different personality could be the same person. Over the year the mild-manner aspect of Clark has faded so you are down to just the glasses which doesn't really make a lot of sense, But then again most disguises don't work in real life either. Short of heavy makeup I recognize my cosplay friends even when they wear a mask.😂
About Zod's rage in the end, it's only natural he went berserk. You perfectly noticed that Zod was created this way, designed as a military leader even before being born. His sole purpose was to fight for Krypton's survival. And when his last people and birthing chamber were taken away from him, he had nothing left. Just brute force he decided to unleash against those whom he deemed guilty of dooming Krypton for good.
I’ve binged maybe 70 of Natalie’s videos in the past 10 days and this might be my favorite yet . Her relentless logic in the face of a crappy movie actually improved the film every step of the way. Hated it in the theater, loved it now 🙌🏼🙌🏼 😆
The problem with the glasses thing is you don’t get to see more of the Clark Kent persona. It’s not just wearing glasses, it’s the whole way he acts and carries himself (a bit of a bumbling clumsy man). Christopher Reeve was excellent as this in his movies.
The Jonathan Kent death was definitely poorly done. Again other shows and movies did this better and more natural with how he passed away.
Good movie overall but I feel it relies on you knowing the actual superman story already.
Great reaction as always though.
There's the whole monologue at the end of Kill Bill dissecting the Superman/Clark Kent thing well. Clark is Kal-El's best impression of a human, it's his costume.
In Superman (1978) Christopher Reeve pulled off the Superman/Clark Kent difference better than anyone else has. He did so much more than just put on glasses.
This was not only a full reboot of Superman, but this was also the start of a superhero cinematic universe that was soon to be collapsing.
Remember that space capsule they tested a few years ago? The SpaceX SN10. It lifted about 6 miles off the ground and then successfully landed back on the launch pad. Nothing spectacular, but a solid enough performance to showcase its potential ... and then it suddenly exploded into a giant fireball. That's what I think of when I think of Man of Steel and the DCEU.
"Alright everyone. We obviously have a few things to tweak, a few criticisms to address, but the film is making money and I think we can all be excited about where ... OH MY GOD!"
“Soon to be collapsing?” Dude, as of this year, it’s been ten years since the DCEU started, and there’s still three movies to go, before they do their big reboot.
@@goORIOLES236 Well, yes. But, it could be possible “The Flash” movie could get cancelled again, or the star gets cancelled again.
@@BatmanFan76 I think if there was any possibility that the Flash movie could be cancelled, it already would have been, à la Batgirl. Whatever the reason, I think there’s something special in that Flash movie that’s keeping the executives on board.
"I think the plot elements were a little cliche'" To be fair this is a Superman origin story movie, if the plot seems cliche' it's because other stories have taken bits and pieces from it over time, Superman was originally introduced in 1938.
Clark: Sets glasses on table.
Lois: Is this our table? I don't recognize it.
If you are wondering about Kryptonite, you will have to watch the sequel known as Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. But you have to watch the Ultimate Cut! It's thirty extra minutes to a long film, but it's a worthwhile watch. Finally, after watching Dawn of Justice, you have to watch Justice League. But, you have to watch the edition called 'Zack Snyder's Justice League'. It's about four hours long, but it is so worth it as it is incredible.
#RestoretheSnyderverse
The first Superman with Christopher Reeve is really good. I think it explains his story a little more.
He’s a dad. He did what a good dad does.
Lmao Natalie, the whole Superman and glasses thing is just gonna have to be something you accept as legit if you wanna enjoy a Superman movie 🤣
Hahaha! As a die hard Supes fan I always say the EXACT same thing 😂
@@samwest1097 haha same
The funny thing is it IS legit.
Can confirm the glasses trick works at least when people aren't specifically expecting it. I've on more than one occasion had supervisors ask where I am when I'm not ten feet away, specifically because they don't usually see me wearing glasses.
OK, after that teaser, now I want a whole song sung Natalie...beautiful voice.
The black hole that sucked all Zod’s crew was a portal to the Phantom Zone and it only affects Kryptonian which is why Lois didn’t get suck into the portal
Next DC reaction is Wonder Woman which are up now on Patreon for those interested :)
I enjoyed the reaction. May I suggest you watch the Christopher Reeves Superman. It's another origin story, and it's from the 70's, so it's a little dated, but they did a good job of answering a lot of your questions.
(The first Wonder Woman is an excellent movie.) Have fun!
Also imo Terrence Stamp makes for an even scarier General Zod in Superman II.
The Kent’s are some of the best parents in fiction I know and I imagine the scene where he goes back into storm is just the way to show that no matter how invincible your kid is you don’t let them go into danger
It's like saying your son has an armour and a guy is trying to stab him with a sword, you jump in front of him, even knowing he's in no harm, taking the swing and dying for no reason.
@@OsSas3 but that son would be revealed to the world as special and the entire world would come after, turn him into a lab rat and experiment on him, something he doesn't deserve!
@@OsSas3 No his son is a super powered alien and he's just protecting him and trying to keep his secret safe. He died for his own beliefs.
Yeah, Jonathan is lovely, saying that it may be better to let children die horribly when Clark could help them just because there was some risk to himself. More parents in movies should teach their children selfishness over good deeds!
It's probably because of teachings like that that Clark either couldn't even be bothered to use his x-ray vision to look into the car and see if his dad was alright, or actually used it and saw that his dad was stuck but instead lied to Martha that he's OK and then didn't do anything.
@@crimsonjedi Like you said, it's Clark's secret? Why does he always have to take the decisions? He's usually wrong, telling his son is not the right time but dying and not preparing Clark for that.
People dont think SUPERMAN would hide amongst them they dont see it , glasses work who would imagine Superman working basic job wearing glasses and all that also he changes his posture and other little details
I think it makes sense that the father had Clark take his mother to the overpass. I believe he's being a protector as not just a father, but as a husband. He not only wants to protect Clark's identity, but he also wants Clark to be there with his mom to protect her in case anything happens considering how close the tornado was. Yes, the most logical thing would be to send Clark, but in the stress of the moment with basically no time to consider his options, he defaulted to his loving and protective nature.
I'd concur with what Keven has said here. Johnathon is very much thinking of the safety of others, and it's that very same trait that left a lasting impression on Clark from an early age.
Mr. Kent was also thinking about Clark's alter ego. If Clark had gone out there, he would have had to do something "super" to survive. Everyone hiding under the overpass would have seen it. It's a highway with vehicles from all over, not just Smallville. The story would spread exponentially, and Clark would be outed...the exact scenario the Kent's have been trying to avoid for decades. By sacrificing himself Clark's dad kept his family...AND THEIR SECRET, safe. The second point is just as important as the first in Clark's dad's eyes.
@@GlenCodes yea the trait of beratting your kid for not letting a busload of children drown
@@kharilane1340 bruh nobody gonna sit there and let their dad die lol that scene was the only thing bad about the movie
The scene was in my opinion forced
The glasses thing is actually more believable than you’d think, because it’s not just glasses. He holds himself differently, he slouches a good bit so he’s like 3 inches shorter and is purposefully clumsy (Christopher reeve) and he wears baggy clothes so people can’t see the Superman Physique. The glasses change the colour of his eyes. He changes the pitch of his voice. As Superman it’s more deep and commanding but as Clark is softer, higher and more meek. He changes his hairstyle aswell. All those things, however small, add up. Individually they might be noticeable but no one is looking for this flying, tall, jacked, god basically, in the clumsy meek reporter with bad eyesight.
I'm like you, I get what the writer was trying to do with Pa Kent's death but it just wasn't well executed. In the books it's a heart attack and he learns the hard lesson that despite all he can do he can't save everyone.
I didn't like the tornado scene at first either but it's difficult to have Jonathan Kent give his life to prevent World War III over 'The Superboy' with a heart attack or (unrelated to events) cancer.
You gotta see the 1978 Superman movie. The music is ICONIC as is the movie itself. A must see.
You should definitely watch the original Superman film, everything in that film served as the foundation for the MCU. It's the OG Superhero film.
And way more faithful to the original lore than this movie too.
wait...the MCU?
@@useliteski3381 I can't speak for Tyler Hall or what he specifically meant, but definitely the original Superman film (along with II) set the mold for all successful superhero movies that came afterward; MCU or otherwise. At the very least, the Chris Reeve Superman movies proved that superhero movies could be big box office successes; something they never really had been before Chris Reeve's Superman debuted. Just as the original Superman comic book did for all superhero comics to come... DC or Marvel's.
That's *my* take on what Tyler Hall said, anyway. Could be wrong. But this is how I would state it myself.
@@jasontoddman7265 i think i got it on the second time i thought about it. def a testament to how successful they can be in a box office setting. your take is great. absolutely blew peoples minds. i think i remember reading it was by far the most expensive movie ever made at that point; def a game changer!
The reason why he didn't let clark save him was not to expose him. How was that dumb?
Uncle Ben: "With great power comes great responsibility"
Jonathan Kent: "Let the kids die"
His dad originally died from a heart attack. It was an important lesson for Clark that for all his strength, he can't fix everything and should cherish life. It was a gross mischaracterization of Superman to change Pa Kent's death to a scenario that he could've saved him from, but didn't. Like, what lesson did he learn? Hide your abilities? Why? He's just exposing himself a couple years after.
You clearly didn’t pay attention to the movie but you were in the right track
As for Clark passing among people; one time, Charlie Chaplain entered a Charlie Chaplain impersonator contest, and LOST! Also, Andy Kaufman used to go to a diner, and clean up tables as a waiter, and wait for people to go "hey, you look like Andy Kaufman!" and he'd chuckle and go "yeah, I get that a lot".
Another example: Jeff Daniels attended Lebowski Fest a year and apparently didn't win the lookalike contest for The Dude.
The show Superman and Lois really showed the power of his takeoffs and landings.
That series is the second best depiction of the character after Christopher Reeve. A lot better than this movie.
Invincible is a great Superman-esque tv show, you should give it a try. It’s animated but a great addition to the superhero mythos.
"It’s animated but "
I was hoping we might one day move past the idea that animation makes it worse.
@@suicunesolsan I've never been too interested in animated content for adults so you got me on my bias there. If it was anime I wouldn't have even turned it on(I know, I know my loss), and even then it was a bit too anime for me. But I love watching reactors see episodes 1, 5 and 8. To each their own!
Krypton once had many colonies and had explored multiple galaxies, but it eventually lead to multiple wars. They regressed back to its home planet for the sake of social stability. It had a peaceful but static society for centuries. Space travel was generally abandoned for being too disruptive. They turned to self-reflection and inward focus, but it lead to the destabilization of their planets core due to the mining. On top of that "scientists" of Krypton were actually more like historians rather than people who tested hypotheses. Jor-El was pretty much the only real scientist on his planet and when he discovered the impending doom of the planet, noone believed him. While Krypton might of had the technical aptitude to make space vessels they had none on hand in short notice not to mention building one after centuries of abandoning space travel.
With Clark's disguise throughout the decades usually he tends to slouch, people aren't looking for Superman in Clark so there's a sort of denial, and I believe once it was said the glasses were designed to throw people off. There have been a couple different bits of reasoning for why no one recognizes Clark.
There's a comic story/movie... Superman: Red Son, where clark landed in Soviet Russia.
If you're watching the next DC movie, BvS, you gotta do the director's cut. The theatrical took bits of the story out that didn't truly explain things.
_"There have been a couple different bits of reasoning for why no one recognizes Clark."_
What I feel they could do (especially in the comics) is to bring back a (diminished version of) an old superpower: Altering his appearance. By "super-tightening" his facial muscles he could exaggerate certain things whenever he's say getting his photo taken or talking with people who've seen the other up close e.g. as one he makes his cheekbones more pronounced, as the other he does something to make them less so, and maybe in connection with specific expressions e.g. Clark's "smile for the camera" and Superman's make them look barely alike.
In a franchise like the DCEU you could just showcase it once, wouldn't even take much CGI, and then just skirt around it, make them go "C'mon, WB, we want to see the face trick again."
I recall an interview with the queen mother where she said she would go out of the palace in normal common folk cloths and some people would tell her how much she resembled the queen. I think it is the same for Clark.
Hello Natalie, If you want more back story on Superman then you can watch Superman and Superman 2 (staring Christopher Reeve). Sure they are older movies but they're still good. Also the T.V. Series of Smallville is a good one to watch because it starts when Clark (Superman) is in High School and it covers a lot including him arriving on Earth as a baby and him finding out that he's basically an alien . There are 10 seasons of Smallville, so yea it's a long one. Actually, let's make it official... could you please watch Superman (1978) and Superman 2 both Staring Christopher Reeve. Superman 2 is a continuation of the first one.
Man I would just love to see someone on RUclips react to smallville. It has a special place in my heart
Exactly what I stated. I hope she reads the comments.
I hope she reads the comments too. The more people mention Smallville the more likely she is to see Smallville mentioned. Especially if she's just skimming through the comments. I just hope that she isn't hesitant from watching Smallville due to the 10 seasons.
His dad sacrificing himself is FAR from dumb. That's him telling Clark that Clark isn't ready for what's to come.
I always liked that this feels less like a superhero movie and more like an alien invasion film.
Superman is one of the first superheroes ever created so yes, there will be elements of the story that are cliche'd due to the time in which it was created but it's a really great film and Henry Cavill plays a great Superman in all of the films he's in.
The first 15-20 minutes was some of the best sci-fi to hit the screen.
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You mean when Jor-el rode his Avatar bird, then dived into the Matrix birthing pool? It's some of the best because it is stolen from all of the best.
You need to watch superman the movie, it’s the birth of all superhero movies and a very good film in general