Yikes, if that's the real price that's WAY more expensive than in Washington State. And super expensive compared to Texas or many other states. If it was $73k for 70 acres, sure. hahaha
What a rip-off you can get land for five hundred an acre in Northwest Arkansas, 2.5 acres will fill up quick too, if you add animals and farm portions.
My wife and I live on the big island in Hawaii on 3 acres. The temp range here is between 60 and 80 degrees. We are on catchment water system and have solar panels. You can still buy 3 acres here for about $30,000. The soil here is volcanic and rocky but you can employ raised beds for raising vegetables and you can raise goats cattle and sheep on pasture you develop. We have lived here for 30 years and developed our little homestead little by little during that time. You guys are starting a great adventure. Good Luck
I was born in panama @8years old parents moved to new york city and ever since never looked back i been watching you couple years aqo and you have inspired me to come back and look at ur old chanels aqain to learn from your quest ....i love watching ur content way back
@TheOerdin oh I agree it’s a joke, the only thing going for it in my opinion is the weather and view. There’s literally not much there. Tho I’d preferred Boquete weather over David.
I don’t know you two but I’m happy for y’all. Live the life you want and don’t worry about people who question your choices. It’s not their life. It your’s. Thanks for another great video.
Would you tell your fellow human that they were about to drink poison if you had great reason to believe it, mich less KNOW IT? Oh, sorry, it’s your life. “Wait! Wait! Wait! Don’t drink that!! Oh my god! The last person to drink that lived just..........”. Whoops, yeah, your life, figure it out for yourself. Have you ever read the label on the back of myriad consumer,er products? I mean, why should I question if the furry bread in your cupboard is good for you? That grey meat with the funny smell from your fridge you bought last month? Your life. I have nothing to say. I love to smile and have fun and live free like the next guy. But don’t tell me to smile and be free, cause it’s my life.
I love these videos. You're an adorable couple, you have multiple edits and locations to keep the videos moving along, all the information is useful and you walk the viewer through your experiences and thought process so that we can relate. Very well done.
You guys are doing something amazing. You are showing people how to navigate life. The best part is not your honesty, but the fact that you always smile. Cheers.
They are doing this cause of youtube money, get real. They wouldn't be able to afford this without youtube, (my guess). So the ONLY reason they post these videos is for money. Not that this is for anyone. Brave? or careless? you decide. Quit your job, get $100k and go live somewhere crazy and film it, and make $10k/mo off youtube. Move your hands around a lot and zoom in and out a lot and spin around a lot, and you can do this too!
That moment when you know you found the perfect piece of land for you, and you can afford it too, so exciting. I looked for my land for over 10 years, I could never find that combination of like-ability and affordability. lol all these people commenting on the price that have no idea the factors that influence the price of land in a specific market. Congrats and be sure to enjoy every moment of making your lot yours.
If you are talking price point I agree. I paid 65,000 for 1.5 acres 3 minutes from the ocean with incredible ocean views...in Costa Rica. I think they told someone top price and got hit at top price. Without water they should have gotten that land for 30,000, unless it is way more expensive than Costa Rica. Going direct here is super reasonable.
@@kimberlypuravida5690 2 hrs from D.C, you can buy 2 ac. for 6k, or 12k regular price.....Chile and Hawaii are the same with foreigners driving up prices.
Minnesota is beautiful. It’s the extreme cold that has put it off the map for me. However, here I am in Southern California on 2.5 acres In the Mojave desert, in the foothills of the San Gabriel mountains out my big front window in the west, and almost a panoramic view of the tri-cities lights out all the windows in the back of my house to the east, from 4000 ft. Bought my home and property in 2001 for $145k, now estimated at $350. I’ve given moving a consideration because of retirement and healthcare, but I just love my home and land, and hoping for the best and still keeping my options and mind open. For Jordan and Kaylee, this is the time of their life and I think it’s wonderful what they are doing. They have so much ahead of them, and they are very fortunate to have each other to do it together. 💕
Up in Canada in the middle of nowhere I'm looking at 176 acres for 168g that's less then a dollar a acre. Best part is lake front, and has over 1/3 small lake on back side, with original cranberry bogs from original pioneer settlers and almost fully forested. Like vantion living said. It not comparable to south America.
They have many advantages over the USA on property/residence here. it is basically 72"F and sunny year-round. Food is 75%/80% cheaper. Medical is 90% cheaper as well. We went to Mexico two years ago for my daughter's braces, they cost $700 Vs $7,000 in the USA and did a flawless job. Laws are also a lot less than the USA, for building. They have little to no heat/cooling bills, cellular service is great in many places. In Minnesota, you are stuck with bitter winters, rusting cars, harsher state laws, and many things related. When I turn 60, I and my wife are leaving the USA for Costa Rica to live. I just have to verify My retirement income and have provided medical coverage. They are living way cheaper and a lot freer than us in the USA.
Makes me feel a whole lot better for my home. 6.5 acres, single wide with addition, 30x40 shop, well (60GPM), septic, a view of the mountains, 35 miles from Spokane, WA. Altogether $45,000. Paid for lock stock and barrel. 10 miles from a small town with a rural hospital and 2 grocery stores.
2 years, and more, this NM band will be with me until the end. 3k, now 160k, followers. Wow! watching the progress. Ive backed up, and watched all the history you two have made. I pray not only to someday meet, but to help provide / build something for the future. Somehow we will meet! I shall cry in joy! So blessed you are, I know some way, I can be a part of it. Freebird.
Because they get paid by youtube, so they DO have to tell us, and their video needs to be about 8-10mins to earn money from it, which is exactly why it takes so long to tell us they over paid for this land. Transparency = $7000 per million views.
@@DavidWilliams-wj4sc They do get paid for their videos and their videos do have to be a certain length to earn money, but they don't have to disclose any information they don't want to. They disclosed the amount they paid for their land because they wanted to let their viewers know, not because they had to in order to get paid by RUclips like you suggest.
When we retired we looked at a number of states in the U.S. we also looked at properties in the state of Yucatan in Southern Mexico where we had worked a number of years ago. Ended up buying a 5.25 acre lot in southern middle Tennessee. We got it with improvements and a single wide modular house for 33,000. Taxes are less than 200$ a year. We are 12 miles from the county seat. It is beautiful here. And we love having our own private forest!
If you both are happy that is all that matters. It is your life and choices that count for you. A beautiful piece of property. How many people can say they wake up in the morning walk outside and view a Volcano. Peace
While there’s not a chance in hell I’d ever do anything like this, I love your story, I love your enthusiasm and ambition. I think it’s absolutely incredible that you’ll have a vision for your life and you are taking the steps to turn your dream into reality.
@@bigjim11566 on the coasts? For the more pleasant climate you have to go up in elevation. 1200-1600m is where you get year round 75-80f day temps with cooler evenings down to 60-65f
Guys thank you very much for such a generous amount of great info. I was wondering about property taxes and all closing fees.... I had a chance to read several condescending comments from other, well intended, subscribers. There's a couple of things that we should consider about this spot: 1. When it comes to buying real estate, it's all about location, and this spot is just gorgeous. 2. Comparing buying land in Panama vs Nicaragua? Come on!! There's a reason why they call Panama the Dubai of the Americas. Shall I add more to that? The Canal is within a few hours, which allow them to expand into a huge business opportunities, 3.it's a tourist destination, 4. Safety....5. The weather is amazing. Plenty of water and easy to install a solar system. The possibilities are endless. Comparing this to Nicaragua? Get real.
Lawlessnness? That's everywhere, ever been to Los Angeles? Downtown San Diego, close by Petco park? Chicago? I think countries such as Cuba will give you the best response for anyone concerned about lawlinnes from the government, they won't touch their tourist, their European and Canadian elderly community living there Why? It's all about taxation, it's monies they'll use to keep their salaries, their infrastructure, it's a lot of money when you think about it. It's what Panama needs. And that's why they've gone a long way to bring said type of tourism. They've managed to learn from their neighbors to the north. Costa Rica.
@Old Luke Coronavirus? We have two cases here in San Diego, as we speak. Do you actually think these "locals" will move a finger to help me? Should that becomes a bigger issue? Look going back to Panama's. Nobody said it's a perfect place, that's just absurd to even think that. Still, it's a great spot to adventure, certainly, better than El Salvador and or Nicaragua.
I’ve never heard anyone else use the term “analysis paralysis.” It’s such a tangible phrase for where so many of us find ourselves on the precipice of a life-changing decision. My dad cautioned me about this state of mind when I was researching colleges. I ADORE researching, so I didn’t mind being stuck in analysis limbo. I often stayed there, in my comfort zone, for way too long than could be justified by its ultimate purpose. I love this couple almost as I love delving into an obscure topic. Rock on, Millennial Nomads. Your adventure is ours as you share your travels with us all. 💜
I love the way that you communicate with each other and your interaction is so balanced. You both share in the video presentation. I feel equality between you two. I feel respect of each other. I feel admiration from both of you. The result is UNITY and success! Congrats "We are the flowers of one garden, and the leaves of one tree" Baha'i Faith
First thing you need to do is make a reservoir for water collection if you want animals, or dig a well. Panama had a drought last year every off gridders tanks were dry! I got 4 acres of land on an island near Bocas for $25k
In Nicaragua I have 5 acres , a well, a main house, a workers 4 bedroom house, a barn and a caretakers cottage located 3 miles from the ocean and 1 mile from Leon, all for under what you paid. You might have paid too much. But love you guys because of our kindred spirit.
cb thomas, that is Nicaragua which has a history of unstable governments and unstable environments. Panama has been very steady and has always tried to attract foreigners, which is why it is more expensive. I don't plan to move to either country so I am not judging either but you have to understand, there are forces and most being economical and stability that dictates how much an area cost. In the states, you can buy a 100K home in South Dakota and you'll have a nice home. In California, you can't even buy a mobile home for that price. My cousin's in laws just bought one for 200K. You have to pay whatever that area dictated based on location, soil, and access and in their case, lack of water supply.
David Peterson the type of person to buy in Panama wouldn’t live in rural South Dakota if it were free and you paid them, so who cares how much it cost you .
You still have some sloping, but you could terrace the land for growing, and you can build the future tiny houses partially earthsheltered by cutting a slot into the slope.
Without an impact study and proper permitting from ANAM I wouldn't terrace that land. It would be a quick way to lose it. Please remember they are FOREIGNERS here and if some local raises a stink they can have some serious governmental problems.
Farmland here in Arkansas is $1,000 an acre. My brother and his wife bought 88 acres for around $79,000. It has a lake that's an acre and lots of wooded areas.
They didn't really research anything. They followed the route all the other Gringos took before them. If you go to where American & Brit ExPats *Don't go* the land is 10× cheaper.
@@johnchase4408 Yes -- but they don't have the usual "retirement" requirements; they're looking for arable land that can also support a small community. Some things that people looking for a place to live in the local community don't necessarily have to take into account when pricing out land.
@@nairbvel You are not factoring in, that cheap land in the middle of no where, you have very few income streams if you are creator value added products. Also, very very few people will travel to a community with the intention of being there, most will be passing through central America along the main traveller route and come and stay for a week / month / more. Also, having lived in Latin America for 12 years now, having an international community near by is a bonus. Living in a very rural area amongst the campesinos gets very lonely due to cultural differences and just different ways of life. Very few who go that route make it passed a few years. Lastly, fact is, most people do not stay forever, a few years, but very very few last more than 10 years. There is next to no way you will be selling a very secluded rural property. Next to a international destination you at least have a chance of getting your money back or only taking a small loss
@@mrdub.303 and they did compare prices so that is what it is going for. Also, they fell in love with the bogete that the expats created, with the coffee shops , etc. So they are getting what they wanted.
@@nairbvel Shoot I could get them the exact same requirements in Idaho same price but 40 acres instead of 2...the only benefit I see living there is that you dont get 4 different seasons but for me that would be a nogo.
Love this. Great advice. Oh, the patience. That's my continual life lesson. I was one of those people who felt like I had to 'act now' because the ocean front condo I was going to live in was a crazy affordable price comparatively. But I hadn't even seen other parts of Panama! That deal fell through (thankfully) and I'm going to travel around the country to see where I may want to be more permanently.
I would say that is expensive, they could go off grid in Hawaii for that price. But... with so many baby boomers retiring in the USA over the next 20 years, and this town being such a hotspot- it could turn out to be a nice investment.
@@KonamiKonami well I spoke with a realtor about Fee vs lease hold and he basically told me that because I'm not from Hawaii (native) that you really can't buy the land you just buy the home. Which really sucked and made no sense. But I actually like Costa Rica more than Hawaii, not saying it isn't beautiful, it is. But I want to do low impact homesteading and well after they went through the spill I decided not buy in Hawaii. But my daughter may be interested in that area and maybe things changed since 2014..
@@endofanage223 Lease hold is really only for condos. 99% of homes are fee simple, anyone can buy and you own the land just like any other state. Farm and ranch land can sometimes be leased from the big Native landowning trusts, that may be what the realtor was talking about.
@@grumpyoldman7375 hey I would like some advice, I have been thinking about Panama, but I a with you, I want something much cheaper. Do you have property how did you go about finding something that meets your needs and what would be a good price?
@@grumpyoldman7375 bollox did you get a hectare of land in Panama near boquete for $700usd. In panama, in some remote area buying 100hectares maybe. But 0% chance you did in the same area.
@@frankfurtur5531 watch their entire story before you talk shit. they both worked jobs over 40k a year and then quit. 72k isnt that much money to live in paradise, hence why they chose to buy a fkn bus to live in for 3 yrs first
Kris Queen hi there is a guy in Panama. He is honest, and American marry to a panamenian woman 👩 I don't recall his name but he own a company calle Panama Equity Google it you will find his e-mail. He has good advices .....
I’m Panamanian American, and I can’t wait to make panama my permanent home to raise my little boy! Panama is so amazing and so many hidden gems! You guys have to go to San blas sometime it’s incredible!
In parts of America, the price of property is almost secondary to the yearly cost of taxes. What kind of taxes are you looking at in Panama and if you improve the site, will your taxes rise?
shane don’t move to Texas. No income tax means high property taxes. Only larger parcel ag or ranching acreage gets a low rate. If you make improvements or additions then your taxes go up. If some nicer places get built near you then taxes go way up and you did nothing to your place.
I lived in CR and Panama for 28 years ad the one thing that we learned early on, and it proved itself right multiple times was, Realtors are crooked and even the locals avoid them like the plague! To set the naysayers straight we do know a few honest realtors in both countries but the 3 tat we kw are drop in the bucket to the hundreds of realtors out there! They get contracts with a local to sell his 10 acre piece of land for $35,000 which s pretty good money to a local and they sell it for $175.000 or more. This happens constantly and especially the Californians come and they think that it so cheap they eat it up and when they try to sell it they realize they were screwed. The best way is to move into an area and befriend a few locals, easy to do as they are really great folks and easy to make friends with....once you have a relationship with a family you ask them to go and find something that firs your description and price range and they negotiate as a local to a local....after they get it settled they introduce you to the seller and everyone is happy! Steer clear of realtors unless you are filthy rich. I like these two folks but they got a serious screwing, that property is not worth what they paid, I lived in Boquete for 3 years and know the area really well and could have found them something similar for a third what they paid. I feel sorry for them but they are happy so what the heck, it's not my money!
what you stated is illegal for licensed real estate agents to do. a licensed real estate agent is considered as having an advantage over any plain old seller, therefore not only unethical to shyster a seller that way but most places it is either illegal or subject to the State levying a serious stiff fine and revocation of license. Any normal person would not risk such losses.......... but sure it can happen from time to time. Hence, lawsuits as a result.
Unless the realtor bought the land from the owners and re-sold it to foreigners there is no way the owner would not see the money being paid when it's written in the contract.
My Mother is Panamanian and my Uncle owns a home in Bouquete. We call it El Valle (The Valley). It's a million dollar home near the top of a mountain there. Beautiful and the people are so nice.
Im happy you found your "spot" and that it becomes everything your hearts desire. After I first saw your upload , I had to call my aunt . Her step son moved to Panama in November 2019. Him and his wife looked at land down there off and on for almost a year until settling 15-20 miles east of Boquete . Supposedly, they got 6.5 acres of already cultivated land for $54,000. I'm guessing that's pretty good and in a great area. They live it down there and are starting their farm too. They had met locals in some of the taverns and found quite a few locals and people from US wanting to quick sell. Cash Talks!!!! Good luck in your endeavors
I live in Boquete in Volcancito with a nice view. My borther sent me one of you all's videos a few weeks back. I figured it was only a matter of time before we crossed paths in our pretty 30k population town. But I was looking through my binoculars the other day, and guess what, I spotted you temporary white house van and plot from across the town, like probably 5 miles as the crow flies. Small world :)
14 acres for 19k in a beautiful little Maine village, a couple hours south from where your schoolie originated...views of the Presidential Range, Mt. Washington and the White Mountains. I think what you guys are doing is fantastic and hope to pull ourselves away from Maine at some point to visit Panama based on your great videography! Thanks so much. When you return stateside, we'd love to have you join us by the woodstove to swap stories! Have fun down there!
@sonoftherepublic Hahaha. I know...I lived in Georgia for five years and thought I'd never return to winter weather. Gives my wife and I something to bitch about so we don't bitch about each other, lol.
I've been getting a ton of feedback and I appreciate it. I was surprised by the amount for the land. When you are in a South American, you expect the land to be cheaper. I know in Costa Rica the land is quite high. Every State every place has it's pro and con's.
I am curious about the "TOTAL Cost of land Ownership" in Panama. TAXES, utilities, insurance, building materials cost & AVAILABILITY. Yes, I heard them say they are OFF GRID, but they will still be paying taxes. Most people would need some type of mortgage for purchases like this. Is Panama 'friendly' to FOREIGNERS buying land? As with ALL land purchases what matters is still the same: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
Being where you want to be is priceless. I have to admit I was very surprised about the cost of the land, and definitely thought you were going to say $15k to 25k tops No water, no dwelling, and only 2.5 acres. I honestly don't believe it is the most cost effective place to buy for most, if there was a house then yes. I imagine those who retire there have sold a house which gave them the ability to purchase with some extra, plus their retirement. I can see the climate is wonderful and perhaps ideal as you said, not cold or hot. Most important, you are happy.
YouSurf 2 Agrre, and I understand that is most recommended. Also, when you go with a realtor they have to make money too, and you never know through negotiations that you could’ve actually gotten a lesser price if the realtor wasn’t in between. But being in a foreign country makes all of that more challenging. I wonder how long that piece of land was on the market.
Bare in mind that they got a prime piece of real-estate on a hill with a million-dollar view overlooking the volcano. You can easily find $15K properties down the hill that are about 1.5 acres in the warmer climate and with a lesser view. If all you want is 1/2 an acre then cheaper. Remember, some people simply want to relocate where there is a good culture and have access to the things you need, including good inexpensive healthcare, or free, if you become a resident. This couple decided to get a prime piece of land. But you can simply get a regular piece of land and live comfortably even on $800 in the countryside. The price of healthcare is about the same as with insurance in the States, but once you are a resident, then you are covered under Panama's Universal Healthcare, which is like Medicare For All. You can be totally unemployed and break your leg falling down the hill, and BINGO, you;re covered! This is very appealing and a diabetic acquaintance who worked for a pharmaceutical in Oklahoma but lost their health insurance when they got laid off said that moving to Panama saved their life! Now they work as an English teacher for a local high-school down there. Nobody goes bankrupt in Panama due to healthcare. If little itty bitty Panama can do it, and still maintain much lower taxes than in the U.S., so can the richest country in the history of humankind, but I digress... lol
@@giselleplantbasedvegan9174LISTING agents always work for their client/customer/deal. Most showing agents also work for seller..... A BUYERS agent one gets under contract is one who should be earning their fee by working FOR THE BUYER. Helping with such things as competitive listings, issues/due diligence and also approaching/knowing FOR SALE BY OWNER type sellers. Worth the fee. Buyers agent is working for buyer under contract. I am presuming such exists in Panama. (agency/fiduciary relationship with buyer)
@sonoftherepublic One is always better off being rich too. But when we say lesser for medical care we're talking dirt cheap in comparison to the U.S. Nobody I know in Panama has ever gone bankrupt due to medical bills. In the U.S. I see it happen time and time again, including people setting up GoFundMe sites to pay for things that would have otherwise been covered in Panama a million times over.
I don't know, but 71000$ is not that expensive when it comes to no neighbours, good access to supermarkets, breathtaking view, good dirt to plant vegetables and so on. In Germany, you sometimes pay so much, but super small land, with neighbours to each side. I totally support you guys, because to get such a piece of perfection is super rare. Specially, there are a lot of restrictions like you mentioned in the US or other countries of things that you can and can't do. Loved the video and how you made it...really enjoyed it that you showed all the different places that you visited and explained why it wasn't a fit. A lot of good information for those that plan to buy some land, no matter where. :)
Here in southern New Mexico, (Dog Canyon area), there are quite a few plots for sale at $1000-$1500 per acre. There was a 50 acre section listed for $50,000 not too long ago. Desert scrub with 360 mountain views. Everywhere here in the Tularosa Basin area has access to water. It's not the greatest and has to be treated. Reasonable property taxes.
Thanks a lot for the information. You have found the land that is suitable for you regarding that you are going to build those tiny houses. And you dont have a lot of traffic on the road thats great too. I wish you guys all the best for the future and I am looking forward to see your plans going true! Greetings from Sweden!!
You could do way better if you dealt directly with the owners. Agents inflate the price to make larger commissions. The important thing is not to rush the process.
Another thing to consider. I read that there are no property taxes there. So purchase a property and pay 1 time only. Here in the United States there is a winter tax and a summer tax every year and never goes down only up. Consider that
Beautiful property! We bought 19 acres 20 minutes from Corsicana, TX, 1.5 hours from DFW airport... Ours had a house, so it's not comparable. Vacant 10 acre lot next to us sold for $49k, with water and electric. Yours is definitely more beautiful, but the moral of my comment is, the property is still available in the US, if you know where to look. We just added solar and plan on putting in a well. Fortunately, nothing requires us to be grid-tied, so we plan on cutting the lines!
U forgot to Negotiate Like any Real Latino, you gotta start Low. And remember you’re in Panama, those $73k they wont make in more than 10years, i bet they would’ve taken $30k for it.
Get some heavy equiptment and regrade your little plot to whatever slope angle you want. Rather than fight the hill you're on for the next 40 years. Clay? Either work in sand and compost or build above ground garden beds, fill with your soil of choice! Also, animals don't mind hilly plots. ------- Have you guys ever farmed/grown anything before? I get the feeling you might be novices. Hope I'm wrong.
It's ok. They can afford it. They are at an age where they get excited to get something for their dreams, the view, the vibe, the culture, the life.., the weather.... They might not feel the same in the 60's, 70's but that's how life evolves. At least they own something and excited to work for it. Even if they overpay 20, 30k what does that mean in 30 years...the living during those 30 years...
Wow! I was expecting to hear much cheaper prices down there! Not a criticism of this couple as it looks like they are living the dream. But this is for other dreamers. I just bought 32 acres in North Georgia, after walking 18 different properties during this ridiculous pandemic, with potential for purchase. Result: our new 32 acres has two creeks, one with large rocks and waterfalls; the land with beautiful and gradual slopes uphill as we go further into the back. The entire property is a forest of hardwood trees. The two creeks branch into a little bamboo burm at the front corner. The property is fairly square and corners two roads with about 1200 ft of total road frontage. It perc tests well. None of it is wet, as it all drains well into the creeks. ALL of it is completely usable for homes and farming, zoned A2 for farm or residential, out in the country but only 10 minutes from a small city that is starting a big boom. What price per acre? $5,313. If you cannot beat that in Central/South America, then I'm not sure what's the point in leaving the country. You don't have to go far to find some good stuff, but you do have to take your time while looking!
You "done good", kids! We looked into doing the ex-pat thing in Mexico and south and were going to do it until we looked in Arizona. We ended up with an acre with the same concept in mind that you two had. The difference with us is that we are in our 60s doing this, and you two are getting things done much younger. Goodon ya!
I have two farms I Puerto Rico. The one I just bought was a foreclosure. Two buildings on either side of the only highway that runs from the Caribbean to the Atlantic in 45 minutes either direction. One building is a two bedroom apt on the top floor with a store on the bottom floor. The main house is concrete and need a lot of redesigning. It is four bedrooms and three bathrooms. It all sits on 9 acres. It is an abandoned coffee farm with over 50 coffee trees, avocados, oranges, bananas, etc. The house sits above a very steep canyon with private waterfalls and a river. It is a 12 minute hike down. We bought it for $42,000. 0h and it has a 12'x12'x5' swimming pool too. We have no neighbors in site 360 degrees. One other neighbor a short distance away and no one else for over a mile and a half. It has highs in the mid eighties and lows mid 60's. We are in a valley surrounded by steep mountains that protect us from the full brunt of hurricanes. There is an airport 30 minutes away and the town that I get most of what I need is 12 minutes. Paradise at a bargain and still in the USA. Puerto Rico is off the radar of most people wanting to farm it seems. My other farm is 32 acres and I bought it a while ago for $79,000. It is a mountain top that has Caribbean views. All hilly but I like traversing and creating pathways. I learned this after living in the Andes of South America.
If the road is clay the ground is clay. They don’t bring in dirt and road base to build roads in Central America. You people need to stay sitting on your couches and keep playing video games because you will never go out and do anything adventurous.
Dick Thomas No but they scraped the top soil off down to clay while making the road. Therefore your not going to have a layer of top soil and compost. With cars/trucks driving on the road surely it is going to pack even more. This is called common sense. I think you need get out from in front of the computer once and awhile.
You guys made the right decision..totally! I live in east Tennessee on inherited family land just outside the city limits on county sector. Forced to be bought out due to road construction. Blessed being after covid, value was doubled.
Thanks for the up front and honesty of your life in Panama. It's cool to see your progress on the property. I live in a real original log home in central Ohio. Boy, could we exchange some stories. I lived in a VW bus while in college at OSU. Have a wonderful time in your life and dreams
Hey guys I'm 43 w/ my kitty (Octavia) & on a life change path. Been watching ur Vlogs for a bit now. In So. Cal. now in the high desert. $73,000 in Cali u get a crap piece of land. Love the area u choose (no cooler or heater needed) 🌍😎👍❤
I have been to Boquete 10 years ago. Those prices are crazy Expensive. You realize that is the place where the two Dutch girls (Lisanne and Chris) went missing. Everybody involved in that investigation, went missing or died. Did you read about the “women’s” march? Women come up missing all the time in Panama. I travel to Centro America a lot. Costa Rica is my favorite. Just my two pennies.
Crikey ! My property on the other side of the volcano, in Volcan, is 15 hectares, 3 simple but new (at the time) houses, two stream and two stocked ponds cost me $27,000. Of course that was 20 years ago. I like Volcan because it hasn't been completely been taken over by Americans, Canadians and Germans like Boquete has been. Thus the high prices in Boquete and no more actual Panamians to worry about. Yay !
I visited Volcan, beautiful hillsides like Turrialba in Costa Rica but the feel of panamanians was far too cold compared to Ticos. We love living among Ticos not Gringos..but for young gringos maybe it's more comforting.
There is land all over the U.S. for $1500. an acre with all utilities, including Wi-Fi. Midwest has land cheaper than that, but you can't brag to your friends that you live outside the United States or 2nd rate hospitals cost $10.00 per visit.
Pete, in rural Virginia, where I live, people say, "this is a dead zone, we don't have cell service here" or "we have cell towers within 1/4 mile of where I live". If you have cellular service then you have wi-fi, which is a utility service. Within my house, I have a wi-fi router and you're correct, my 5 acres did not come with a router nor with a cell phone, but cell service is available, unlike their property in Panama, where cell service and wi-fi (as a utility) is not available.
Yes it is. But I guess if that is where someone wants to live they'll pay it. I know of a lot of places in the U.S. that you can buy off-grid land for $1500-$2000 an acre. And some of it is within 30 minutes to an airport.
OK.....I recently sold part of my farm (33ac) two years ago for $165,000 (5,000/ac) located in the mountains of Tennessee. The land is steep and timbered to the back, but has 10ac in nice pasture, and another 4-5 that could be cleaned up for the same. Mine adjoining (70ac) is the same layout and the timber is actually nice, as I've used it to build everything on the place (Woodmizer sawmill), in addition to providing our wood for heat. We've homesteaded here for almost 40 years. The 33ac property included a great well, a small natural spring located high enough on the back mountain to gravity feed the rest of the place, power line in, graveled drive in, 40x40 concrete slab in place for a shop/house/whatever, a septic system (property had a mobile home on it for couple years, since removed) and high speed wireless WiFi (up to 100MB). We are quite rural, but also only 15 min from a small city (pop. 60k) that has a VA hospital, State university with med/pharm/nursing school. Property taxes are very low, no State income tax, no personal property tax, etc. True 4 season weather, but winter is generally mild with maybe 12" snow total, rarely dips below 10 degrees, and summers rarely above mid 90's. We use AC about 2-3 weeks out of the summer on average. The main reason mine went for 5k/ac (and bear in mind it came with $40k of improvements already) was the short driving distance to town. Go 30 more minutes out, and it would drop almost in half. And there is no shortage of these properties IF you're willing to hunt a little.
+The Normadic Movement I loved the way you shared the details of your viewings of various pieces of land. The way you listed your objectives and showed your observations of the places was very informative and helpful.
Just to add an international reference in respect to land prices. In rural France you can regularly buy 2000 M2 plots (roughly half an acre) at 6 Euros the square meter, with services already connected (electricity, water). Just pitch up and build your house. I bought a 2000m2 plot WITH a small traditional stone house and 3 stone barns for 55k Euros. Extra farm or woodland is even cheaper.
Real estate is as valuable as some person is willing to pay for it. You got that land for the proper value. TO YOU. Keep pursuing the path in your dream. And if a very interesting side path forks off, maybe you go down that path, for a little while or maybe forever if it leads to the right place.
One of the first items that you want to think about as one of the most vital is fencing. You need a heavy post and barb wire fence with durable hardwood posts, and properly built gates with reinforced corners and ends, and proper support struts, and with holes in the posts for the wire so it can be strained super tight. Cows are a complete and utter nuisance and they will demolish everything given the opportunity. It is expensive, but if you want to keep your fruit trees, water pipes and vegetables, fence properly. If you go to the trouble to put a finer wire bottom to the fence, this will keep out small predators also to some degree. Crop protection is vital because you can lose years of work when the cattle inevitably invade, often when there is a drought. If you are able, a post and rail, or paling fence around your house and cultivated area gives you double protection, and essential if you get any cattle.
If you don’t mind me asking, how you do afford your day to day living? Are you guys currently working down there while off the camera lol. This is all very enticing but pretty much...where does the income come from? Are there retirement benefits in place down there like social security / medical etc?
Even though the price seems high to everyone!! Happiness doesn't come with a price tag! Land- 73,000 Moving to Panama, (fines,impound,deportation)-3,000 In Jordans view seeing Kaylee happy and smile every morning when she wakes up PRICELESS!! Facts! Money you can make up but finding a place that will truly make up happy once in a lifetime shot! My opinion only ❤🐾🐾❤
How is it that so many young people today can manage to just meander through life without jobs or responsibilities? I have a niece and nephew who wanted top notch college educations so the family paid through the nose to help them. For about 2 years after graduating, they did what the rest of us did....got jobs and contributed. Then, they decided that they wanted something different. One is now in SE Asia, one is in Hawaii. They write letters to friends, relatives, friends of relatives describing their dreams and "ambitions" (for lack of a more appropriate word) and basically beg for money. They feel no shame or embarrassment asking everyone to support them so they can live a life of leisure fulfilling their personal dreams without investing anything on their part. This is the future. Laziness, selfishness and a never ending expectation that your personal happiness and fulfillment is priority number one and that everyone else should be responsible to pay the bill while you enjoy.
You have to let go of the false reality the powers that be have presented to all of us as to how life should be lived. This couple obviously has several streams of income through sponsorships and advertising, and happily living life on their terms as we all are supposed to. I appreciate them sharing their experiences and enjoy their educational videos. I travelled the world and had many adventures like them when I was their age, and having those experiences is more precious than having all the money in the world. I did it all without begging or being privy to coming from a wealthy family.
@@shahmatsimplex4144 False reality? Its called work to provide and survive. What happens to the world when all kids want nothing more than live their dreams and have the expectation that everyone else should be happy to pay the bill? Polite way of saying they live their dream life off the the hard work and generosity of others.
@@drreality950 "Paying the Bill" means providing a living for useless politicians overseeing a welfare state, funding international bankers via using their currencies plus paying usury, and supporting the Military Industrial Complex in its aim of perpetual wars and profits.If you had never allowed yourself to pay that bill and made better choices in life, then you would have accumulated enough wealth to pass down to the next generations as is the natural order. If somehow you have accumulated wealth, then give it happily to the kids, since you cant take it to the grave with you. I would much rather fund young people who want to live out their dreams, since most that pursue such a lifestyle advocate world peace. Most however like this couple are smart enough to have several businesses and steams of income to live a life on their terms.
$73,000 for 2.5 acres. Just saved you 17 minutes.
That's 4x more expensive than in Northern NH.
Thank you
LOL...thanks; click bate title
Yikes, if that's the real price that's WAY more expensive than in Washington State. And super expensive compared to Texas or many other states. If it was $73k for 70 acres, sure. hahaha
What a rip-off you can get land for five hundred an acre in Northwest Arkansas, 2.5 acres will fill up quick too, if you add animals and farm portions.
My wife and I live on the big island in Hawaii on 3 acres. The temp range here is between 60 and 80 degrees. We are on catchment water system and have solar panels. You can still buy 3 acres here for about $30,000. The soil here is volcanic and rocky but you can employ raised beds for raising vegetables and you can raise goats cattle and sheep on pasture you develop. We have lived here for 30 years and developed our little homestead little by little during that time. You guys are starting a great adventure. Good Luck
You should start a channel. I’d watch.
Where in Hawaii?
Can I get in contact with u I need farming land. I'm from the Caribbean but now in the us
Roby laird I need a contact to talk
Sounds awesome. Do you know if there are restrictions on foreigners doing a homestead off grid there?
I was born in panama @8years old parents moved to new york city and ever since never looked back i been watching you couple years aqo and you have inspired me to come back and look at ur old chanels aqain to learn from your quest ....i love watching ur content way back
in georgia we are getting 8 acres with two wells and home setups for 50,000 with one home already on it
Great! Where in Georgia?
New Mexico is about $1000 per acre and $15000 for a well. But total desert. we have had like 6 inches of rain this year so no water collection.
But you're not in Boquete and all that it entails mentioned in the whole video.
@TheOerdin oh I agree it’s a joke, the only thing going for it in my opinion is the weather and view. There’s literally not much there. Tho I’d preferred Boquete weather over David.
Just get company to dig a well
I don’t know you two but I’m happy for y’all. Live the life you want and don’t worry about people who question your choices. It’s not their life. It your’s. Thanks for another great video.
And who exactly does not live the life they want? The China factory worker for $300 monthly? The LA gangbanger? The billions of children at school?
Jim Shue no. Pragmatist.
Would you tell your fellow human that they were about to drink poison if you had great reason to believe it, mich less KNOW IT? Oh, sorry, it’s your life. “Wait! Wait! Wait! Don’t drink that!! Oh my god! The last person to drink that lived just..........”. Whoops, yeah, your life, figure it out for yourself. Have you ever read the label on the back of myriad consumer,er products? I mean, why should I question if the furry bread in your cupboard is good for you? That grey meat with the funny smell from your fridge you bought last month? Your life. I have nothing to say. I love to smile and have fun and live free like the next guy. But don’t tell me to smile and be free, cause it’s my life.
I love these videos. You're an adorable couple, you have multiple edits and locations to keep the videos moving along, all the information is useful and you walk the viewer through your experiences and thought process so that we can relate. Very well done.
I agree. I thought the same.
It’s really nice to see you both so relaxed and happy after six months. Good luck with your new builds!
Never comment on YT but have to say, Love watching you guys... spread so much joy and bring smile to my face :)
You guys are doing something amazing. You are showing people how to navigate life. The best part is not your honesty, but the fact that you always smile. Cheers.
They are doing this cause of youtube money, get real. They wouldn't be able to afford this without youtube, (my guess). So the ONLY reason they post these videos is for money. Not that this is for anyone. Brave? or careless? you decide.
Quit your job, get $100k and go live somewhere crazy and film it, and make $10k/mo off youtube. Move your hands around a lot and zoom in and out a lot and spin around a lot, and you can do this too!
Cool story bro. I actually know them. Nothing is simple. Enjoy whatever it is YOU do.
It's an acting job to sell vids.
That moment when you know you found the perfect piece of land for you, and you can afford it too, so exciting. I looked for my land for over 10 years, I could never find that combination of like-ability and affordability. lol all these people commenting on the price that have no idea the factors that influence the price of land in a specific market. Congrats and be sure to enjoy every moment of making your lot yours.
Wow land is waaay higher there than I thought! It is beautiful for sure though!
Panama is a small country so
How much was it?
If you are talking price point I agree. I paid 65,000 for 1.5 acres 3 minutes from the ocean with incredible ocean views...in Costa Rica. I think they told someone top price and got hit at top price. Without water they should have gotten that land for 30,000, unless it is way more expensive than Costa Rica. Going direct here is super reasonable.
@@d.e303-anewlowcosthomebuil7 $73,000 without water.
@@kimberlypuravida5690 2 hrs from D.C, you can buy 2 ac. for 6k, or 12k regular price.....Chile and Hawaii are the same with foreigners driving up prices.
I feel this is expensive land. I can buy wooded and farm land by the premium lakes of Minnesota for $2 to three thousand a acre.
Apples and Oranges. You can't compare the two places, in my opinion
Minnesota is beautiful. It’s the extreme cold that has put it off the map for me. However, here I am in Southern California on 2.5 acres
In the Mojave desert, in the foothills of the San Gabriel mountains out my big front window in the west, and almost a panoramic view of the tri-cities lights out all the windows in the back of my house to the east, from 4000 ft. Bought my home and property in 2001 for $145k, now estimated at $350.
I’ve given moving a consideration because of retirement and healthcare, but I just love my home and land, and hoping for the best and still keeping my options and mind open. For Jordan and Kaylee, this is the time of their life and I think it’s wonderful what they are doing. They have so much ahead of them, and they are very fortunate to have each other to do it together. 💕
In Massachusetts its 100k an acre
Up in Canada in the middle of nowhere I'm looking at 176 acres for 168g that's less then a dollar a acre. Best part is lake front, and has over 1/3 small lake on back side, with original cranberry bogs from original pioneer settlers and almost fully forested. Like vantion living said. It not comparable to south America.
They have many advantages over the USA on property/residence here. it is basically 72"F and sunny year-round. Food is 75%/80% cheaper. Medical is 90% cheaper as well. We went to Mexico two years ago for my daughter's braces, they cost $700 Vs $7,000 in the USA and did a flawless job. Laws are also a lot less than the USA, for building. They have little to no heat/cooling bills, cellular service is great in many places. In Minnesota, you are stuck with bitter winters, rusting cars, harsher state laws, and many things related. When I turn 60, I and my wife are leaving the USA for Costa Rica to live. I just have to verify My retirement income and have provided medical coverage. They are living way cheaper and a lot freer than us in the USA.
Makes me feel a whole lot better for my home. 6.5 acres, single wide with addition, 30x40 shop, well (60GPM), septic, a view of the mountains, 35 miles from Spokane, WA. Altogether $45,000. Paid for lock stock and barrel. 10 miles from a small town with a rural hospital and 2 grocery stores.
@God Bless Freedom I wouldn't trade mine for anything. Nice to meet you neighbor.
that is your dream and this is their dream - get it
@@sterlingmarshel6299 Of course I get it.
God Bless Freedom is that part of the rain forest?
God Bless Freedom Canada is beautiful. Are you in the rain forest area? I just learned about it, never knew!
2 years, and more, this NM band will be with me until the end. 3k, now 160k, followers. Wow! watching the progress. Ive backed up, and watched all the history you two have made. I pray not only to someday meet, but to help provide / build something for the future. Somehow we will meet! I shall cry in joy! So blessed you are, I know some way, I can be a part of it. Freebird.
Thank you for sharing. That answered many questions. I appreciate your transparency. You are not obligated to tell us a thing and you do. Much love!
Because they get paid by youtube, so they DO have to tell us, and their video needs to be about 8-10mins to earn money from it, which is exactly why it takes so long to tell us they over paid for this land. Transparency = $7000 per million views.
@@DavidWilliams-wj4sc They do get paid for their videos and their videos do have to be a certain length to earn money, but they don't have to disclose any information they don't want to. They disclosed the amount they paid for their land because they wanted to let their viewers know, not because they had to in order to get paid by RUclips like you suggest.
When we retired we looked at a number of states in the U.S. we also looked at properties in the state of Yucatan in Southern Mexico where we had worked a number of years ago. Ended up buying a 5.25 acre lot in southern middle Tennessee. We got it with improvements and a single wide modular house for 33,000. Taxes are less than 200$ a year. We are 12 miles from the county seat. It is beautiful here. And we love having our own private forest!
Lucky YOU, that sounds incredible?
Rural Tennessee is nasty and depressing. A bunch of meth addicts drinking moonshine on their porches.
I bought a house on 1/4 acre of land in Springfield Mo. 17,000 was the list, and I paid just 10k cash. Right in the city near all services.
c mojo people are getting ripped because they don’t know what they’re doing.
I got waterfront land near Seattle for $20k seller financed!
That's great, ahh, but, ahhh, you're in Missouri.
That’s not land!!!!! That’s a residential lot. FYI you got screwed. You could have gone to Nixa and got 5 acres for $15k
@E OnTheHike It's below the tideline.
Yea and the "Africans" will pull a "Ferguson" on you.
Very expensive land, the realtor made some serious $$$..but y’all look happy congrats.
real...tor, not real-a-tor...btw since you were wondering
Nah man, thats a OK price for that location.
If you both are happy that is all that matters. It is your life and choices that count for you. A beautiful piece of property. How many people can say they wake up in the morning walk outside and view a Volcano. Peace
Wait till that sucker blows up.That will be some view! Just ask the folks in italy near Vesuvius!
clay is great for natural construction and you can do raised bed gardening.
While there’s not a chance in hell I’d ever do anything like this, I love your story, I love your enthusiasm and ambition. I think it’s absolutely incredible that you’ll have a vision for your life and you are taking the steps to turn your dream into reality.
Expensive is to go through life wishing or regretting something. If you have the money, buy it and enjoy it
I bought little land for myself
Sight unseen too.
When I arrived to see it in person
It turned to be active vulcano!
Here working from home during this quarantine. I'm getting addicted to you videos. Much love from El Salvador.
It’s a beautiful piece of property. It’s all about, location, location, location. Nice job!
Its worth paying more for land in an area where the temperature is comfortable all year round.
So true, spent 18 months in panama, compiments of uncle sam, we wernt stationed in good area, constant sweat box
@@bigjim11566 on the coasts? For the more pleasant climate you have to go up in elevation. 1200-1600m is where you get year round 75-80f day temps with cooler evenings down to 60-65f
Guys thank you very much for such a generous amount of great info. I was wondering about property taxes and all closing fees....
I had a chance to read several condescending comments from other, well intended, subscribers. There's a couple of things that we should consider about this spot:
1. When it comes to buying real estate, it's all about location, and this spot is just gorgeous. 2. Comparing buying land in Panama vs Nicaragua? Come on!! There's a reason why they call Panama the Dubai of the Americas. Shall I add more to that? The Canal is within a few hours, which allow them to expand into a huge business opportunities, 3.it's a tourist destination, 4. Safety....5. The weather is amazing. Plenty of water and easy to install a solar system. The possibilities are endless. Comparing this to Nicaragua? Get real.
Lawlessnness? That's everywhere, ever been to Los Angeles? Downtown San Diego, close by Petco park? Chicago?
I think countries such as Cuba will give you the best response for anyone concerned about lawlinnes from the government, they won't touch their tourist, their European and Canadian elderly community living there
Why? It's all about taxation, it's monies they'll use to keep their salaries, their infrastructure, it's a lot of money when you think about it.
It's what Panama needs. And that's why they've gone a long way to bring said type of tourism. They've managed to learn from their neighbors to the north. Costa Rica.
@Old Luke Coronavirus? We have two cases here in San Diego, as we speak. Do you actually think these "locals" will move a finger to help me? Should that becomes a bigger issue?
Look going back to Panama's.
Nobody said it's a perfect place, that's just absurd to even think that. Still, it's a great spot to adventure, certainly, better than El Salvador and or Nicaragua.
@chris younts Really? What's next Einstein, the sky is blue? the sun is hot and not cold?
I’ve never heard anyone else use the term “analysis paralysis.” It’s such a tangible phrase for where so many of us find ourselves on the precipice of a life-changing decision. My dad cautioned me about this state of mind when I was researching colleges. I ADORE researching, so I didn’t mind being stuck in analysis limbo. I often stayed there, in my comfort zone, for way too long than could be justified by its ultimate purpose. I love this couple almost as I love delving into an obscure topic. Rock on, Millennial Nomads. Your adventure is ours as you share your travels with us all. 💜
I love the way that you communicate with each other and your interaction is so balanced. You both share in the video presentation. I feel equality between you two. I feel respect of each other. I feel admiration from both of you. The result is UNITY and success! Congrats "We are the flowers of one garden, and the leaves of one tree" Baha'i Faith
First thing you need to do is make a reservoir for water collection if you want animals, or dig a well. Panama had a drought last year every off gridders tanks were dry! I got 4 acres of land on an island near Bocas for $25k
In Nicaragua I have 5 acres , a well, a main house, a workers 4 bedroom house, a barn and a caretakers cottage located 3 miles from the ocean and 1 mile from Leon, all for under what you paid. You might have paid too much. But love you guys because of our kindred spirit.
cb thomas, that is Nicaragua which has a history of unstable governments and unstable environments. Panama has been very steady and has always tried to attract foreigners, which is why it is more expensive. I don't plan to move to either country so I am not judging either but you have to understand, there are forces and most being economical and stability that dictates how much an area cost. In the states, you can buy a 100K home in South Dakota and you'll have a nice home. In California, you can't even buy a mobile home for that price. My cousin's in laws just bought one for 200K. You have to pay whatever that area dictated based on location, soil, and access and in their case, lack of water supply.
We have a $35k house in a town of 700 only 30 miles from Sioux Falls, SD. Not a dump either. Great quality of life.
Winter can and does suck at times but it also cuts the riff raff out. No crime. I'm 100% nordic blood so cold doesn't bother me that much.
David Peterson the type of person to buy in Panama wouldn’t live in rural South Dakota if it were free and you paid them, so who cares how much it cost you .
@@davidpeterson9647 what town?
You still have some sloping, but you could terrace the land for growing, and you can build the future tiny houses partially earthsheltered by cutting a slot into the slope.
Without an impact study and proper permitting from ANAM I wouldn't terrace that land. It would be a quick way to lose it. Please remember they are FOREIGNERS here and if some local raises a stink they can have some serious governmental problems.
I lived in Panama for almost 2 years. I LOVE Panama!
Farmland here in Arkansas is $1,000 an acre. My brother and his wife bought 88 acres for around $79,000. It has a lake that's an acre and lots of wooded areas.
that's way more expensive than I thought
They didn't really research anything. They followed the route all the other Gringos took before them. If you go to where American & Brit ExPats *Don't go* the land is 10× cheaper.
@@johnchase4408 Yes -- but they don't have the usual "retirement" requirements; they're looking for arable land that can also support a small community. Some things that people looking for a place to live in the local community don't necessarily have to take into account when pricing out land.
@@nairbvel You are not factoring in, that cheap land in the middle of no where, you have very few income streams if you are creator value added products. Also, very very few people will travel to a community with the intention of being there, most will be passing through central America along the main traveller route and come and stay for a week / month / more.
Also, having lived in Latin America for 12 years now, having an international community near by is a bonus. Living in a very rural area amongst the campesinos gets very lonely due to cultural differences and just different ways of life. Very few who go that route make it passed a few years.
Lastly, fact is, most people do not stay forever, a few years, but very very few last more than 10 years. There is next to no way you will be selling a very secluded rural property. Next to a international destination you at least have a chance of getting your money back or only taking a small loss
@@mrdub.303 and they did compare prices so that is what it is going for. Also, they fell in love with the bogete that the expats created, with the coffee shops , etc. So they are getting what they wanted.
@@nairbvel Shoot I could get them the exact same requirements in Idaho same price but 40 acres instead of 2...the only benefit I see living there is that you dont get 4 different seasons but for me that would be a nogo.
Heyy sorry just had to say that I really enjoy the way you film this episode ! So refreshing, loved it !!
Love this. Great advice. Oh, the patience. That's my continual life lesson. I was one of those people who felt like I had to 'act now' because the ocean front condo I was going to live in was a crazy affordable price comparatively. But I hadn't even seen other parts of Panama! That deal fell through (thankfully) and I'm going to travel around the country to see where I may want to be more permanently.
I would say that is expensive, they could go off grid in Hawaii for that price.
But... with so many baby boomers retiring in the USA over the next 20 years, and this town being such a hotspot- it could turn out to be a nice investment.
But u never get to own the land of you are not a native ... So after 30 yrs it goes back to the island unless you pay for another 30 yrs
@@endofanage223 That is 100% untrue, someone lied to you.
@@KonamiKonami well I spoke with a realtor about Fee vs lease hold and he basically told me that because I'm not from Hawaii (native) that you really can't buy the land you just buy the home. Which really sucked and made no sense. But I actually like Costa Rica more than Hawaii, not saying it isn't beautiful, it is. But I want to do low impact homesteading and well after they went through the spill I decided not buy in Hawaii. But my daughter may be interested in that area and maybe things changed since 2014..
@@endofanage223 Lease hold is really only for condos. 99% of homes are fee simple, anyone can buy and you own the land just like any other state. Farm and ranch land can sometimes be leased from the big Native landowning trusts, that may be what the realtor was talking about.
@@KonamiKonami thanks for responding. Good to know.
You paid the "Gringo Price", for sure. With that said, live long and prosper.
Spot on I found some great Land in the same area for 90% less lol they were completely out of touch with how to buy land .
@@grumpyoldman7375 hey I would like some advice, I have been thinking about Panama, but I a with you, I want something much cheaper. Do you have property how did you go about finding something that meets your needs and what would be a good price?
@@grumpyoldman7375 bollox did you get a hectare of land in Panama near boquete for $700usd. In panama, in some remote area buying 100hectares maybe. But 0% chance you did in the same area.
@@frankfurtur5531 watch their entire story before you talk shit. they both worked jobs over 40k a year and then quit. 72k isnt that much money to live in paradise, hence why they chose to buy a fkn bus to live in for 3 yrs first
Kris Queen hi there is a guy in Panama. He is honest, and American marry to a panamenian woman 👩 I don't recall his name but he own a company calle Panama Equity Google it you will find his e-mail. He has good advices .....
I’m Panamanian American, and I can’t wait to make panama my permanent home to raise my little boy! Panama is so amazing and so many hidden gems! You guys have to go to San blas sometime it’s incredible!
What are you waiting for?
I recently read that the inhabitants of the San Blas island are being forced to move to the mainland because of rising seas. Is this correct?
In parts of America, the price of property is almost secondary to the yearly cost of taxes. What kind of taxes are you looking at in Panama and if you improve the site, will your taxes rise?
The mail system doesn't work the way it does up in those mountain range so if there is no tax bill in the mail, no taxes.
I believe the rebels collect their payments “off the books”; either way someone is going to extort money.
That's why we're getting the hell out of central va., taxes and fees.
there is no taxes in panama for owning a land
shane don’t move to Texas. No income tax means high property taxes. Only larger parcel ag or ranching acreage gets a low rate. If you make improvements or additions then your taxes go up. If some nicer places get built near you then taxes go way up and you did nothing to your place.
after seen build 100% offgrid homestead in 500 days i start this adventure from day 1🎉. you people are some awesome lovely souls❤
I lived in CR and Panama for 28 years ad the one thing that we learned early on, and it proved itself right multiple times was, Realtors are crooked and even the locals avoid them like the plague! To set the naysayers straight we do know a few honest realtors in both countries but the 3 tat we kw are drop in the bucket to the hundreds of realtors out there!
They get contracts with a local to sell his 10 acre piece of land for $35,000 which s pretty good money to a local and they sell it for $175.000 or more. This happens constantly and especially the Californians come and they think that it so cheap they eat it up and when they try to sell it they realize they were screwed.
The best way is to move into an area and befriend a few locals, easy to do as they are really great folks and easy to make friends with....once you have a relationship with a family you ask them to go and find something that firs your description and price range and they negotiate as a local to a local....after they get it settled they introduce you to the seller and everyone is happy! Steer clear of realtors unless you are filthy rich.
I like these two folks but they got a serious screwing, that property is not worth what they paid, I lived in Boquete for 3 years and know the area really well and could have found them something similar for a third what they paid. I feel sorry for them but they are happy so what the heck, it's not my money!
Hi. My wife and I thinking to buy next year... Would you give us more information, but rather private. Don't know how to get in touch with you guys.
what you stated is illegal for licensed real estate agents to do. a licensed real estate agent is considered as having an advantage over any plain old seller, therefore not only unethical to shyster a seller that way but most places it is either illegal or subject to the State levying a serious stiff fine and revocation of license. Any normal person would not risk such losses.......... but sure it can happen from time to time. Hence, lawsuits as a result.
Bee Free What price a dream
Unless the realtor bought the land from the owners and re-sold it to foreigners there is no way the owner would not see the money being paid when it's written in the contract.
YouSurf it happens a lot in Costa Rica...by the time you find the actual owner it has gone through 3 people.
My Mother is Panamanian and my Uncle owns a home in Bouquete. We call it El Valle (The Valley). It's a million dollar home near the top of a mountain there. Beautiful and the people are so nice.
$45k raw land lot and in Central America NOT cheap
EXACTLY....that is NOT cheap.
Cheap if you're a trustafarian
Panama is nowdays expensive ,because of the mass migration from people in Canada and the USA.
lol.. absolutely agree.
Cheap?! Bahahahahha
Im happy you found your "spot" and that it becomes everything your hearts desire. After I first saw your upload , I had to call my aunt . Her step son moved to Panama in November 2019. Him and his wife looked at land down there off and on for almost a year until settling 15-20 miles east of Boquete . Supposedly, they got 6.5 acres of already cultivated land for $54,000. I'm guessing that's pretty good and in a great area. They live it down there and are starting their farm too. They had met locals in some of the taverns and found quite a few locals and people from US wanting to quick sell. Cash Talks!!!! Good luck in your endeavors
I live in Boquete in Volcancito with a nice view.
My borther sent me one of you all's videos a few weeks back. I figured it was only a matter of time before we crossed paths in our pretty 30k population town. But I was looking through my binoculars the other day, and guess what, I spotted you temporary white house van and plot from across the town, like probably 5 miles as the crow flies. Small world :)
Ex Dartmoor lad here and i wanna say well done for your awesome connection to nature which i totally envelope. Good luck x
14 acres for 19k in a beautiful little Maine village, a couple hours south from where your schoolie originated...views of the Presidential Range, Mt. Washington and the White Mountains. I think what you guys are doing is fantastic and hope to pull ourselves away from Maine at some point to visit Panama based on your great videography! Thanks so much. When you return stateside, we'd love to have you join us by the woodstove to swap stories! Have fun down there!
@sonoftherepublic Hahaha. I know...I lived in Georgia for five years and thought I'd never return to winter weather. Gives my wife and I something to bitch about so we don't bitch about each other, lol.
I've been getting a ton of feedback and I appreciate it. I was surprised by the amount for the land. When you are in a South American, you expect the land to be cheaper. I know in Costa Rica the land is quite high. Every State every place has it's pro and con's.
I am curious about the "TOTAL Cost of land Ownership" in Panama.
TAXES, utilities, insurance, building materials cost & AVAILABILITY. Yes, I heard them say they are OFF GRID, but they will still be paying taxes. Most people would need some type of mortgage for purchases like this. Is Panama 'friendly' to FOREIGNERS buying land?
As with ALL land purchases what matters is still the same: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...
Great question
Y'all should have moved to the Ozark mountains in Arkansas, or Missouri! You can buy land for a thousand bucks an acre!
Being where you want to be is priceless. I have to admit I was very surprised about the cost of the land, and definitely thought you were going to say $15k to 25k tops No water, no dwelling, and only 2.5 acres. I honestly don't believe it is the most cost effective place to buy for most, if there was a house then yes. I imagine those who retire there have sold a house which gave them the ability to purchase with some extra, plus their retirement. I can see the climate is wonderful and perhaps ideal as you said, not cold or hot. Most important, you are happy.
YouSurf 2 Agrre, and I understand that is most recommended. Also, when you go with a realtor they have to make money too, and you never know through negotiations that you could’ve actually gotten a lesser price if the realtor wasn’t in between. But being in a foreign country makes all of that more challenging. I wonder how long that piece of land was on the market.
Bare in mind that they got a prime piece of real-estate on a hill with a million-dollar view overlooking the volcano. You can easily find $15K properties down the hill that are about 1.5 acres in the warmer climate and with a lesser view. If all you want is 1/2 an acre then cheaper. Remember, some people simply want to relocate where there is a good culture and have access to the things you need, including good inexpensive healthcare, or free, if you become a resident. This couple decided to get a prime piece of land. But you can simply get a regular piece of land and live comfortably even on $800 in the countryside. The price of healthcare is about the same as with insurance in the States, but once you are a resident, then you are covered under Panama's Universal Healthcare, which is like Medicare For All. You can be totally unemployed and break your leg falling down the hill, and BINGO, you;re covered! This is very appealing and a diabetic acquaintance who worked for a pharmaceutical in Oklahoma but lost their health insurance when they got laid off said that moving to Panama saved their life! Now they work as an English teacher for a local high-school down there. Nobody goes bankrupt in Panama due to healthcare. If little itty bitty Panama can do it, and still maintain much lower taxes than in the U.S., so can the richest country in the history of humankind, but I digress... lol
@@giselleplantbasedvegan9174LISTING agents always work for their client/customer/deal. Most showing agents also work for seller..... A BUYERS agent one gets under contract is one who should be earning their fee by working FOR THE BUYER. Helping with such things as competitive listings, issues/due diligence and also approaching/knowing FOR SALE BY OWNER type sellers. Worth the fee. Buyers agent is working for buyer under contract. I am presuming such exists in Panama. (agency/fiduciary relationship with buyer)
@sonoftherepublic probably not easy or swift to get competent minimally invasive heart surgery if needed down there.... could be wrong.
@sonoftherepublic One is always better off being rich too. But when we say lesser for medical care we're talking dirt cheap in comparison to the U.S. Nobody I know in Panama has ever gone bankrupt due to medical bills. In the U.S. I see it happen time and time again, including people setting up GoFundMe sites to pay for things that would have otherwise been covered in Panama a million times over.
I don't know, but 71000$ is not that expensive when it comes to no neighbours, good access to supermarkets, breathtaking view, good dirt to plant vegetables and so on.
In Germany, you sometimes pay so much, but super small land, with neighbours to each side. I totally support you guys, because to get such a piece of perfection is super rare.
Specially, there are a lot of restrictions like you mentioned in the US or other countries of things that you can and can't do.
Loved the video and how you made it...really enjoyed it that you showed all the different places that you visited and explained why it wasn't a fit. A lot of good information for those that plan to buy some land, no matter where. :)
thanks for this update. I love this place. you guys are really educating us all. Would love to come down and live in part of your world for a moment!
I bought 11 acres in the mountains of Tennessee for 60k. The weather is great, the views are spectacular and the people are kind and giving.
Here in southern New Mexico, (Dog Canyon area), there are quite a few plots for sale at $1000-$1500 per acre. There was a 50 acre section listed for $50,000 not too long ago. Desert scrub with 360 mountain views. Everywhere here in the Tularosa Basin area has access to water. It's not the greatest and has to be treated. Reasonable property taxes.
Thanks a lot for the information. You have found the land that is suitable for you regarding that you are going to build those tiny houses. And you dont have a lot of traffic on the road thats great too. I wish you guys all the best for the future and I am looking forward to see your plans going true! Greetings from Sweden!!
Seems like the prices aren’t really that cheap. Or not as cheap as I was expecting. But the view you get with that is just amazing.
You could do way better if you dealt directly with the owners. Agents inflate the price to make larger commissions. The important thing is not to rush the process.
Another thing to consider. I read that there are no property taxes there. So purchase a property and pay 1 time only. Here in the United States there is a winter tax and a summer tax every year and never goes down only up. Consider that
David Martin That’s a really great point. I didn’t even know that or think of that. Pay once and you truly own it has a lot of value in it.
Beautiful property! We bought 19 acres 20 minutes from Corsicana, TX, 1.5 hours from DFW airport... Ours had a house, so it's not comparable. Vacant 10 acre lot next to us sold for $49k, with water and electric. Yours is definitely more beautiful, but the moral of my comment is, the property is still available in the US, if you know where to look. We just added solar and plan on putting in a well. Fortunately, nothing requires us to be grid-tied, so we plan on cutting the lines!
U forgot to Negotiate Like any Real Latino, you gotta start Low. And remember you’re in Panama, those $73k they wont make in more than 10years, i bet they would’ve taken $30k for it.
26,000 for 5.2 acres ion Mississippi 43 years ago. Had a small house well etc. Grow all of our own firewood etc.
Get some heavy equiptment and regrade your little plot to whatever slope angle you want. Rather than fight the hill you're on for the next 40 years.
Clay? Either work in sand and compost or build above ground garden beds, fill with your soil of choice! Also, animals don't mind hilly plots.
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Have you guys ever farmed/grown anything before? I get the feeling you might be novices. Hope I'm wrong.
I'm thinking the same thing,
Gringo price
Yep...definitely gringo price
@Rami Sebit 30% less
@@mrdarren21 Wonder what it would be next month.
It's ok. They can afford it. They are at an age where they get excited to get something for their dreams, the view, the vibe, the culture, the life.., the weather.... They might not feel the same in the 60's, 70's but that's how life evolves. At least they own something and excited to work for it. Even if they overpay 20, 30k what does that mean in 30 years...the living during those 30 years...
Lmao 😂
Wow! I was expecting to hear much cheaper prices down there! Not a criticism of this couple as it looks like they are living the dream. But this is for other dreamers.
I just bought 32 acres in North Georgia, after walking 18 different properties during this ridiculous pandemic, with potential for purchase. Result: our new 32 acres has two creeks, one with large rocks and waterfalls; the land with beautiful and gradual slopes uphill as we go further into the back. The entire property is a forest of hardwood trees. The two creeks branch into a little bamboo burm at the front corner. The property is fairly square and corners two roads with about 1200 ft of total road frontage. It perc tests well. None of it is wet, as it all drains well into the creeks. ALL of it is completely usable for homes and farming, zoned A2 for farm or residential, out in the country but only 10 minutes from a small city that is starting a big boom. What price per acre? $5,313.
If you cannot beat that in Central/South America, then I'm not sure what's the point in leaving the country. You don't have to go far to find some good stuff, but you do have to take your time while looking!
You "done good", kids! We looked into doing the ex-pat thing in Mexico and south and were going to do it until we looked in Arizona. We ended up with an acre with the same concept in mind that you two had. The difference with us is that we are in our 60s doing this, and you two are getting things done much younger. Goodon ya!
Mexico is full of Crimes, come to Pedasi, Panama
OMG! Thank you! Your buying land experience is inspirational. I never considered Panama, now I am. And grid style makes sense.
Thank you for the transparency! I can’t believe it’s been 6 mos!!❤️
I have two farms I Puerto Rico. The one I just bought was a foreclosure. Two buildings on either side of the only highway that runs from the Caribbean to the Atlantic in 45 minutes either direction. One building is a two bedroom apt on the top floor with a store on the bottom floor. The main house is concrete and need a lot of redesigning. It is four bedrooms and three bathrooms. It all sits on 9 acres. It is an abandoned coffee farm with over 50 coffee trees, avocados, oranges, bananas, etc. The house sits above a very steep canyon with private waterfalls and a river. It is a 12 minute hike down. We bought it for $42,000. 0h and it has a 12'x12'x5' swimming pool too. We have no neighbors in site 360 degrees. One other neighbor a short distance away and no one else for over a mile and a half. It has highs in the mid eighties and lows mid 60's. We are in a valley surrounded by steep mountains that protect us from the full brunt of hurricanes. There is an airport 30 minutes away and the town that I get most of what I need is 12 minutes. Paradise at a bargain and still in the USA. Puerto Rico is off the radar of most people wanting to farm it seems. My other farm is 32 acres and I bought it a while ago for $79,000. It is a mountain top that has Caribbean views. All hilly but I like traversing and creating pathways. I learned this after living in the Andes of South America.
That clay might be so hard because it’s the road.
Yep, I reckon you are right. The grass was very luscious in the paddocks.
Clueless
If the road is clay the ground is clay. They don’t bring in dirt and road base to build roads in Central America. You people need to stay sitting on your couches and keep playing video games because you will never go out and do anything adventurous.
Dick Thomas No but they scraped the top soil off down to clay while making the road. Therefore your not going to have a layer of top soil and compost. With cars/trucks driving on the road surely it is going to pack even more. This is called common sense. I think you need get out from in front of the computer once and awhile.
FincaDelSol PR
Have you ever been to Central America. They don’t scrape anything.
You guys made the right decision..totally! I live in east Tennessee on inherited family land just outside the city limits on county sector. Forced to be bought out due to road construction. Blessed being after covid, value was doubled.
Great to see ya'll doing so well. Hope you a great 2020, I'll be watching!! Peace & Love........:]
Thanks for the up front and honesty of your life in Panama. It's cool to see your progress on the property. I live in a real original log home in central Ohio. Boy, could we exchange some stories. I lived in a VW bus while in college at OSU. Have a wonderful time in your life and dreams
So happy for you guys!!!
Hey guys I'm 43 w/ my kitty (Octavia) & on a life change path. Been watching ur Vlogs for a bit now. In So. Cal. now in the high desert. $73,000 in Cali u get a crap piece of land. Love the area u choose (no cooler or heater needed) 🌍😎👍❤
Please do a video including, banking in Panama
...and about learning Spanish & how many speak English.
Panama is the banking capital of the western hemisphere.
I have been to Boquete 10 years ago. Those prices are crazy Expensive. You realize that is the place where the two Dutch girls (Lisanne and Chris) went missing. Everybody involved in that investigation, went missing or died. Did you read about the “women’s” march? Women come up missing all the time in Panama. I travel to Centro America a lot. Costa Rica is my favorite. Just my two pennies.
Crikey ! My property on the other side of the volcano, in Volcan, is 15 hectares, 3 simple but new (at the time) houses, two stream and two stocked ponds cost me $27,000. Of course that was 20 years ago. I like Volcan because it hasn't been completely been taken over by Americans, Canadians and Germans like Boquete has been. Thus the high prices in Boquete and no more actual Panamians to worry about. Yay !
I visited Volcan, beautiful hillsides like Turrialba in Costa Rica but the feel of panamanians was far too cold compared to Ticos. We love living among Ticos not Gringos..but for young gringos maybe it's more comforting.
Me gustaría vivir alrededor de los nativos para mejorar mi Español, por seguro.
Boquete has a big rainy season, so hopefully you won't have any problem trying to do farming with no water available. Good luck!
There is land all over the U.S. for $1500. an acre with all utilities, including Wi-Fi. Midwest has land cheaper than that, but you can't brag to your friends that you live outside the United States or 2nd rate hospitals cost $10.00 per visit.
Wifi comes from a router. Land doesn't include wifi. Maybe you mean cellular.
Pete, in rural Virginia, where I live, people say, "this is a dead zone, we don't have cell service here" or "we have cell towers within 1/4 mile of where I live". If you have cellular service then you have wi-fi, which is a utility service. Within my house, I have a wi-fi router and you're correct, my 5 acres did not come with a router nor with a cell phone, but cell service is available, unlike their property in Panama, where cell service and wi-fi (as a utility) is not available.
chris younts Nothing is produced in Panama? You forgot overpriced coffee.
Seen when u started living in the bus till u build a house i wanna walk and follow your footstep for my journey to start thank for ur good vibe
So happy for the two of you !! Way to go ❤️
I'm happy for you, every person has their perspective, I wish much love and luck.
thats an awful high price per acreage and no water..whether you wanted water or not
These young kids didn’t think it out did they? could’ve stayed in the USA for a lot cheaper than that
Yes it is. But I guess if that is where someone wants to live they'll pay it. I know of a lot of places in the U.S. that you can buy off-grid land for $1500-$2000 an acre. And some of it is within 30 minutes to an airport.
@@jamor2549 No property taxes in Panama. You don't actually own land in the states. I'd buy land in Panama over "buying" land in the US anyday
OK.....I recently sold part of my farm (33ac) two years ago for $165,000 (5,000/ac) located in the mountains of Tennessee. The land is steep and timbered to the back, but has 10ac in nice pasture, and another 4-5 that could be cleaned up for the same. Mine adjoining (70ac) is the same layout and the timber is actually nice, as I've used it to build everything on the place (Woodmizer sawmill), in addition to providing our wood for heat. We've homesteaded here for almost 40 years.
The 33ac property included a great well, a small natural spring located high enough on the back mountain to gravity feed the rest of the place, power line in, graveled drive in, 40x40 concrete slab in place for a shop/house/whatever, a septic system (property had a mobile home on it for couple years, since removed) and high speed wireless WiFi (up to 100MB). We are quite rural, but also only 15 min from a small city (pop. 60k) that has a VA hospital, State university with med/pharm/nursing school. Property taxes are very low, no State income tax, no personal property tax, etc. True 4 season weather, but winter is generally mild with maybe 12" snow total, rarely dips below 10 degrees, and summers rarely above mid 90's. We use AC about 2-3 weeks out of the summer on average.
The main reason mine went for 5k/ac (and bear in mind it came with $40k of improvements already) was the short driving distance to town. Go 30 more minutes out, and it would drop almost in half. And there is no shortage of these properties IF you're willing to hunt a little.
I bought a nice 1 acre building lot in indiana for $1500
Indiana is not Panama
+The Normadic Movement I loved the way you shared the details of your viewings of various pieces of land. The way you listed your objectives and showed your observations of the places was very informative and helpful.
TLD(W):
$73,000 for 2.5 acres
I would search the property really good. There still could be water somewhere.
Yes it is beautiful but expensive for sure Enjoy
Volcano, anybody remember what happened in Washington. There are no dormant volcanos just those that aren’t currently active.
Happiness Is Priceless 😍
What a beautiful site that you picked to start your home ! Looking forward to sharing this adventure with you too!
13.40 for those eager to know the cost
eslayer09 XL thank you lol
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13.40 what? $73,000.00 is the same exchange rate from USD to Panamanian Balboa.
Thank you so much
Geeeezzzzzzz I was dying out here👍👍🍺🍺🇺🇸
Just to add an international reference in respect to land prices. In rural France you can regularly buy 2000 M2 plots (roughly half an acre) at 6 Euros the square meter, with services already connected (electricity, water). Just pitch up and build your house.
I bought a 2000m2 plot WITH a small traditional stone house and 3 stone barns for 55k Euros. Extra farm or woodland is even cheaper.
They saw two American hipsters and priced accordingly😂😂😂
Real estate is as valuable as some person is willing to pay for it. You got that land for the proper value. TO YOU. Keep pursuing
the path in your dream. And if a very interesting side path forks off, maybe you go down that path, for a little while or maybe forever if it leads to the right place.
One of the first items that you want to think about as one of the most vital is fencing. You need a heavy post and barb wire fence with durable hardwood posts, and properly built gates with reinforced corners and ends, and proper support struts, and with holes in the posts for the wire so it can be strained super tight.
Cows are a complete and utter nuisance and they will demolish everything given the opportunity. It is expensive, but if you want to keep your fruit trees, water pipes and vegetables, fence properly. If you go to the trouble to put a finer wire bottom to the fence, this will keep out small predators also to some degree.
Crop protection is vital because you can lose years of work when the cattle inevitably invade, often when there is a drought. If you are able, a post and rail, or paling fence around your house and cultivated area gives you double protection, and essential if you get any cattle.
If you don’t mind me asking, how you do afford your day to day living? Are you guys currently working down there while off the camera lol. This is all very enticing but pretty much...where does the income come from? Are there retirement benefits in place down there like social security / medical etc?
Man we're are doing the wrong work
Even though the price seems high to everyone!! Happiness doesn't come with a price tag!
Land- 73,000
Moving to Panama, (fines,impound,deportation)-3,000
In Jordans view seeing Kaylee happy and smile every morning when she wakes up PRICELESS!! Facts! Money you can make up but finding a place that will truly make up happy once in a lifetime shot! My opinion only ❤🐾🐾❤
How is it that so many young people today can manage to just meander through life without jobs or responsibilities?
I have a niece and nephew who wanted top notch college educations so the family paid through the nose to help them. For about 2 years after graduating, they did what the rest of us did....got jobs and contributed.
Then, they decided that they wanted something different. One is now in SE Asia, one is in Hawaii. They write letters to friends, relatives, friends of relatives describing their dreams and "ambitions" (for lack of a more appropriate word) and basically beg for money. They feel no shame or embarrassment asking everyone to support them so they can live a life of leisure fulfilling their personal dreams without investing anything on their part.
This is the future.
Laziness, selfishness and a never ending expectation that your personal happiness and fulfillment is priority number one and that everyone else should be responsible to pay the bill while you enjoy.
You have to let go of the false reality the powers that be have presented to all of us as to how life should be lived. This couple obviously has several streams of income through sponsorships and advertising, and happily living life on their terms as we all are supposed to. I appreciate them sharing their experiences and enjoy their educational videos. I travelled the world and had many adventures like them when I was their age, and having those experiences is more precious than having all the money in the world. I did it all without begging or being privy to coming from a wealthy family.
@@shahmatsimplex4144 False reality? Its called work to provide and survive. What happens to the world when all kids want nothing more than live their dreams and have the expectation that everyone else should be happy to pay the bill? Polite way of saying they live their dream life off the the hard work and generosity of others.
@@drreality950 "Paying the Bill" means providing a living for useless politicians overseeing a welfare state, funding international bankers via using their currencies plus paying usury, and supporting the Military Industrial Complex in its aim of perpetual wars and profits.If you had never allowed yourself to pay that bill and made better choices in life, then you would have accumulated enough wealth to pass down to the next generations as is the natural order. If somehow you have accumulated wealth, then give it happily to the kids, since you cant take it to the grave with you. I would much rather fund young people who want to live out their dreams, since most that pursue such a lifestyle advocate world peace. Most however like this couple are smart enough to have several businesses and steams of income to live a life on their terms.