@@robertgillies9382 my only hold back in Panama is not being able to speak Spanish. At 67 years old I don't particularly care to learn a new language. English is enough for me.
I don't know if you guys speak Spanish, but that helps. I speak Spanish and I haggled with the natives and got better prices. The Panamanians love negotiating especially if you try to speak their language. I never felt cheated. So sorry it didn't work out for you.
@susancarrington8091 right you can haggle but Panama.is still very expensive relative to what the country offers. It's still a beautiful and wild.place tho.
I'm glad your back home to the USA, ILL BE GLAD GOING BACK HOME TO PANAMA 🇵🇦 SOOOOONNNN, I miss the trash the heat the mold I miss everything you regret
I live in California and I miss my Panama as well. I had the fortune to be born in the smallest province and grew up in the country side of it. I will never regret living there; drinking fresh milk every morning and climbing the big mangoes and guava trees in my backyard . Picking fresh corn, watermelons, tomatoes, oranges,papayas, plátanos…and swimming in the river during the dry season was the best! I really miss the heavy rain and thunder too!
I live in Ecuador with an ecuadorian wife. Much of which you mention applies here. The trash/litter is #1 for me. Everyone is late for everything #2. Dogs #3. Motorcycles especially, but all traffic laws ignored #4. Because my wife is an ecuadorian wheeler and dealer, we don't get gringoed much. BUT, people are very kind here and young people especially, are much more kind and respectful than you will normally encounter in the US.
I feel your comment. I live in El Salvador with my husband and two kids. My kids and I were born in the US while my hubby was born here. When he retired from being a fire fighter in 2020, we decided to pack up and come here. I’d say the first year was rough as we acclimated but now, we feel like true Salvadorans. The whole running late think im pretty sure is cultural. Latin Americans seem to run on their own time. The stray dog issue is much better than it was when I first came here 20 years ago. People care for their animals now and our president has opened a government run vet when anything from a check-up to full surgery only costs $.25. Trash service just became a thing here within the last three years. It’s better but not perfect. And 100% traffic sucks! I laughed out loud getting my license because the “laws” here seem to be a suggestion only. The gringoing has kinda stopped at least in our town. They know I live here and I simply won’t but if they try and raise prices on me. I think most sellers at the market want to make at least some money vs nothing. I also am fluent in Spanish which throws them when they think I don’t understand but actually do.
My husband and I lived in Panama from 1978-1981 military duty, we loved it, well I did because I wasn’t the one in the Army LOL- we had our two oldest children born at Gorgas Hospital , we first lived off base in a small town called Arahjian( not sure if it’s spelled correctly), we met some great people and had lots of parties with Mike White, Krenke, McIntosh, Paul and Cindy Davis, Tricia and Butch Cheers, Chris and Ray Wilson, Pat and Louie, John and Bonita Abbey, Tony and Violet Attila and others too, we think about ALL of you guys often, if any of you guys read this, John was stationed at Ft. Kobbee! Peace and Love to All😊
I’m a Panamanian, l have been living in the USA for 45 years, its a good place, but its also a pretty horrible place, l just don’t complain since l live here, You should not live in Panamá if you’re not happy.
The white tax is almost universal around the world. I let my Filipina wife pay for everything in the Philippines because I get the skin tax here and same for Thailand and Vietnam.
In my many years of traveling as an Expat I find that most folks who have regrets about living outside their home country typically stems from their lack of finances and poor spending habits. You see, when folks decide to travel the world many already having limited budgets it greatly restricts their choices and comfortability. Secondly, one of the many issues that some may face is having false expectations or fantasies about living abroad before actually having feet planted on the ground, as in, planning a short trip to said country to see what it is really like. This is why it is so important to be prepared financially and actually "GO THERE" for a couple of weeks first and see if it's the right fit. For example, I have personally lived in the Philippines for over three years which in my opinion is one of the cheapest countries to live besides Vietnam and although things are relatively cheap there, many Expat fail to curb their poor spending habits telling themselves things are so cheap here and end up over spending and eventually go broke before they knew what hit them. A word of caution, just because a country offer a cheaper living experience doesn't mean you won't or can't go broke because the reality is, you can and you will if not responsible and there is nothing worse than being broke in a third world or developing country.
We are all getting worried about you guys. I have been following u for years, and i know that u would let us know what's up if u could. Whatever has happened, we r sending u LOVE, LIGHT, HEALTH AND HEALING ENERGY !!! ❤
Back again to watch this video. I was as excited to see your Roastery my very first time in real life as your were your second time. Don't ask me how I know this... I just do. Sorry I arrived too early to meet you... I am not at all good with crowds and such, so maybe it was best for me to arrive on what was probably "The Roastery" slowest day since start up. I have long since finished the bag of coffee I bought. I can't tell you what a bummer it is to drink store bought bugs, leaves, unexpected and rotten bean coffee. I have not been to "home base" for months. I will get there soon. Soon enough probably to order another bag, maybe two. I worried if I bought too many bags it would get stale. How goofy is that thought?!?! LOl 😆 What I buy at Walmart or such store cannot compare at its best, freshest, hit the shelf, into my van and poured into my cup. Doh! What was thinking? I drank every drop of every cup of Morning Movement Coffee I brewed in my simple pour over system in my van kitchen. Morning Movement Coffee ☕️ is a bargain, drop for drop it is delicious. There is no comparison to any other. My "ticker" appreciates one great cup of coffee ☕️ to start my day. My "ticker" objects to anything more than half a cup full of .... the other stuff. If you ever have need of a Granny farmland at Lola's farm. I turn Shananavan to the south from north of 60° forevermore ❣️
By leaving they have done their part to remove some of the pollution in panama. Their snobbery and smelly sense of entitlement was surely an eyesore for the great nation of Panama.Well they were not happy when told they had to hire Panama residents for their failed business venture. These influencers are just living off the host organism called the subscriber's and sponsors.
The trash situation has been getting much better over the last couple of decades. Panama has the lowest population density in Central America, so the people are used to having a lot of room. It has been a long road in getting the people to dispose of their trash properly, but it is getting better all the time. There was a time in the USA during the late 60's and early 70's that the same problem was experienced and that took a couple of decades and a lot of fines to change society.
Here in Texas where I live (Dallas metroplex) the trash problem is horrendous! There are many streets that look like the trash truck drove through and spread all of it’s contents. It’s everywhere!
@@kd8199 That is true. The 70's had a statewide campaign launched called "Don't mess with Texas" It focused on keeping the roadways litter free & worked after a few years! Unfortunately over the past decade, the large city centers have big vagrant & homeless problems, people with mental/drug abuse issues etc and the trash is yet a symptom from all of this. 🥲
This touched me … I think your viewers will easily understand how and why you’re feeling the way you’re feeling. There’s no time in life for regrets but there is time for love and being where your heart desires. You’ll know where you need to be. Just keep moving forward with your positive energy and love and God will guide you. I can’t wait to see Jordon walk into the roastery and see what the people do when they see him! Enjoy your time in Stowe!! ❤
Yep. Organic produce is a problem. That's why we started a 100% organic vegetable farm 2½ years ago in Volcan. Unfortunately we don't deliver to Boquete. 😢 Your so right, organic certification is usually bogus. That's why we tell people to come to our farm and see for themselves, that we have no chemicals! 😂
As a USA retiree residing in Panama, I strongly disagree with 90% of the comments on this video of Panama. It sounded like you are refering to another country that is not Panama. By the way expats retirees get 10% off on all prices including airfair
Mold on the produce? I think that’s more of an issue where you guys are with all the rain. We are just outside of Penonomé and during the dry season we haven’t experienced this at all. You guys still get rain in Boquete during the dry season don’t you? One issue we do have about finding certain foods is finding gluten free stuff. You can get gluten free flour at Riba Smith for your own cooking and baking, but nothing in the Panaderías or restaurants near us in the interior. Still wouldn’t change our location choice at all though. Love it here!
Netting over your new garden beds will support the plants exponentially! Not only less bugs, but the slight wind break really helps. I know it is a huge challenge, but I think you will find it a great idea.
You can find responsibly grown produce at the Tuesday market. Not everyone uses the bad herbicides and pesticides, although it is a real problem throughout Panama.
I think I have said this before. If you have a mold or pollen allergy, you should use a HEPA filter. It will actually filter out the mold and pollen. It will blow air at you that should give you instant relief. However, you may literally have to put the exhaust directly in your face to get the best relief. When my allergies kick in, I just hug that dang thing during the night, but it is so great. Really, give it a try. When I get relief at night, I can make it through the day. Also, meds are a bit better in the day.
Hey jordon, have you tried local honeys to help with your allergies? Like specifically pollinated from the tree you are allergic to? I know it works for children, its like building up a tolerance to it. Allergies are miserable 😣
The Daily Mail article on 9-23-23: "Massachusetts couple who live on an off-grid farm in PANAMA reveal brutal downsides to their remote lifestyle - from suffering through freezing cold showers to going SIX YEARS without a TOILET." The DM combined the titles of this video with the one where you announced that you were "Leaving Panama" to make it sound like it was permanent. There is an agenda at work.
You guys are amazing. It’s awesome that you live both parts of the world- rural and urban. Sadie has the best parents and she is such a healthy, inquisitive and intelligent child! Beautiful family!
Rains for 6 months, dry for rest… weird u hot allergies down there we never did til I moved to the USA, just grab from trees we do! Markets in Casco viejo most expensive part of Panama
Hey Guys , We live in Buckfield , Maine and on Wen. the 7th we will be leaving early for Stowe , Vermount. And about 3 hours later We should be pulling into Your Roastery parking lot hoping to finally meet You Folks in person and to have some of that Great Coffee !!! We love Your show and Your coffee as well , Hope to see You then !!
I haven't seen y'all for over a year. The last vid, of yours, I watched you were packing coffee 2+ years ago; wanted to tell you that y'all are looking good! Sadie's smile is so beautiful! Interesting hearing your regrets....
Funny you talk about trash in Panama. Have you been to Baltimore? Philly? Detroit? Some parts of NY, Boston, LA, Denver, Miami, Atlanta, etc etc? Or Even Seattle? Make Panama trash feel like nothing. Every city, every country has good things and bad things. I can tell you that at least when I’m overseas I know I won’t get shot at a shopping mall, a concert, a movie theater etc etc.. And I definitely know for sure that my children are safe going to a normal school. Also discrimination and racism still a huge problem in the United States! Definitely a great country but not even close to perfect.
I got my hug and MORE. I traveled to Stowe from Montreal, Québec, Canada just to see them this past weekend. My husband, who is an ultramarathon, wanted to train somewhere, and I suggested Mont Mansfield. This was a special request because I knew that Kaylee and Jordan were in town. My camping trip to Smuggler's Notch was the best EVER because I met the most fantastic family EVER. Kaylee and Jordan are living the life that I have always dreamed of. They are so genuine and authentic. What you see on video is what you'll get if you meet them in person. This past weekend, but specifically June 3, will forever have an exceptional place in my heart. Ok, so I bought LOTS of coffee. My husband, who is a chef, will make coffee cake, coffee, and some sort of soufflé mouse with the coffee I bought.
HOLA SOY PANAMENA Y VIVO EN BOSTON MASS POR ANOS ACA ES PEOR QUE PANAMA LA BASURA, LA SEGURIDAD , HAY DE TODO UN POCO UN GRAN PAIS PERO IGUAL QUE PANAMA TIENE LUGARES MEJORES QUE OTROS POR EJEMPLO COMO SE MIRAN LOS LUGARES DONDE VIVEN LAS PERSONAS EN LA CALLE DONDE SEA HAY COSAS BUENAS Y MALAS NO SOLO PANAMA
Bueno...ni te cuento lo que está pasando en Seattle, Los Angeles y Philadelphia.....la basura, el número infinito de drogadictos viviendo en las avenidas y las heces humanas en las calles...es realmente una pesadilla!
Bien dicho, estos viviendo y comiendo de Panama, y hablando babosadas como si aca en EEUU es un paraiso. El paraiso es Panama, y mucha prosperidad viene, y muchos americanos y canadiense se estan retirando a Panama no ahora pero desde uhh. Me retiro este diciembre a Panama
Totalmente de acuerdo! Yo también soy de Panamá y vivo en EU y aquí también hay cosas que no hay en Panamá, al menos no en el interior del país. En California tú ves a las personas viviendo en sus carros, en la calle en sus casita de acampar con su cochinero y basuras en los carritos del supermercado. Aquí en California tú ves a los “homeless” que parecen zombies caminando en las calles cogido en las drogas. Y no me extrañaría que se vean en otras partes de EU. Es como tú dices, cada país tiene sus áreas bonitas y otras no tanto. Al parecer estos RUclipsrs no han visto otras partes de Panamá. Y solo porque ahora viven en las montañas de Chiriquí, que por cierto le llaman “jungla” ya creen saberlo todo sobre Panamá. 🤣
@@johnwilliams7600 Has you seen the tents cities in LA and San Francisco or other parts of the US? where homeless has trash everywhere? They pee and poop outside downtown SF & LA and walk like zombies on the streets, that’s nothing compared to the trash problem in Panamá.
No regrets guys! You have learned and achieved so much in every area of your lives. Having a psychology degree, a health-supportive culinary degree and as a grandmother who was a tenured teaching assistant in a kindergarten class for 5 years and am currently in a preschool......Sadie is the most happy, well-adjusted, smart, adorable child. Children learn through play and her growth is astounding because of hands on learning, exposure to so many new experiences..it is such a joy to watch. Thank you for your candidness, authenticity and opening up your lives to us. Your videos always make me smile!❤❤
Panamá has always had issues with how to dispose trash, there have been proyects, but every new government administration has been so corrupted and stole the millions of dollars addressed 14:00 to fix it.😢 The people of Panama, the poor ones are the victims of this corruption. Well, even if you get overcharged, the land, and the vehicles are affordable comparing to US. I live in Tampa, and as a panamenian I can say that the employees there make one third, or less of what they make here. ❤🇵🇦🇺🇲
Well when it comes to recycling the US isn’t much better. Most people don’t realize that less than 9% of recyclables ever gets recycled in our country even when people are doing the right things. The recyclables like laundry bottles etc, are just shipped over to 3rd world countries and they dump it on the beaches. It is disgusting and one thing I hat about the US. The holier than thou attitude.
In Panama believe it or not, we recycle and rehuse things, and when things break down such as an appliance, we try to fix it and we use it until its not good anymore, while here in California everything seems to be disposable. I have noticed a lot of things go to landfills because people buy new things all the time! You know new clothes every seasons, new cars and so on.
@@clemenciasanchez8016that's because we Americans are spoiled rotten and take things for granted. At least some do. Go live in a developing country and see how people make do with what they have! No other choice.
I have been all over central and south America and I can tell you the regrets listed here in this video will be found in all the other places in the hemisphere including North America. Sure, they won't be the exact same ones but every place I have been has some down-side to go with the advantages. Also, they are not retirees and if you are a retiree, Panama has a great pensionado program that is probably the best in central or south America, plus for Americans, Panama is on the US dollar so there is no money conversion for you. Bottom line, Panama is a great place to live, just go and see if you fit with it or maybe another country is a better fit for you.
Look at all the RUclipsrs that are vegan and ok only eat organic and they got cancer! Stop programming yourselves and just enjoy, focus on eliminating stress and have loads of fun
@@BellarineDream look at you thinking that encouraging people to eat vegan isn’t destroying more habitat and requires the entire elimination of all the species previously inhabiting those acres. Just like you enjoy reminding people that animals are sacrificed when they are used for food….im here to remind you that other than bats and bees (pollinators), industrial farms are intent to eliminate everything which threatens a percentage point of profit to feed people like you. Newsflash….organic branding is a joke to the countries who have been feeding their soil for centuries and they laugh at the percentage of poison that “organic” allows 🙄. Their food and every product that touches the inside or outside of a human body must not have any trace of over 1400 elements. The US has only 11 🤦♀️. ….who looks silly now?
This native Panamanian is super proud of all that you have accomplished here in the US and my native land. Your care and sincerity shine through. Here is to your continued successes. I came on board for your epic ride around Sadie's birth. She is growing beautifully. You have so much to be proud and happy about. Blessings.🎉
have you considered wearing n95 masks to filter the pollen out during the dry season? If I am building something I always have to wear an n95 mask. Another thing you could do is wear enclosed safety glasses. I know that is way out there but if you want to keep crap out of your eyes that is the way to do it. On the farm who is going to see you but the family and close friends. Who cares right?
I was just thinking the same thing. Putting a few drops of essential oil on mask may stop the allergen. I too am allergic to molds. I keep my ozone air purifier on low in my dwelling. Also hydrogen peroxide kills mold. I ingest a few drops of HPeroxide in a glass of water daily.
No Regrets!!! All lessons in life to be learnt…Your experiences and adventures will carry you and your family far…Sadie is extremely advanced because of your life choices…What a lucky little girl to have parents who are open minded enough to step out of their comfort zone to live…👠🚌👠
Take note of local prices, learn how to ask for them in Spanish regatear or bargaining is customary and unless they are dishonest, once you show people you understand, you can get the local prices. also show a real interest in learning about the foods your indigenous friends families grow and live off of, and how to cultivate them on your land.
I can relate to many of the items on you list. One surprising one for me was about the Family. For us, We wish we had gone ahead and moved farther away than Mexico, like Ecuador or Nicaragua. Plane trip is a plane trip, and it works both ways. Can't wait to see inside the Roastery and how it is looking today. Awesome video. Thanks
I was very fortunate living in the Amazon of Peru. The locals knew me, I was called “The Satipo Gringo” but I never was charged more at the market. Now, buying land was a challenge, they wanted triple the price for a gringo! I got to the point I did not notice the garbage along the roads. Peru really cleaned up during Covid. Of course I had as little contact with Lima as possible. I have no regrets. I just accept their culture and live on. I lived aiming the Sendero Luminoso, but they never bothered me. But Covid drove me out, I’m now in Mexico.
Your worst allergen is perhaps airborne mold spores. When I moved to Kentucky, I was surprised to see their weather reports often include "mold counts". I was tested and found to be highly allergic to such mold. Rain knocks the mold out of the air, and the freezing temperatures also provides relief. The medication, Montelukast, seems to be a wonder drug for me, but it has a growing list of warnings.
I agree with you about montelukast. When I’m at my most miserable, that’s the only thing that works! I’m not allergic to mold but I am very allergic to weeds here in dry Colorado in late summer and fall until we get a hard freeze! If it rains I feel great because it knocks the pollen down temporarily.
Raising Sadie in Panama, is the best thing you could do fore her. Family is great, however she couldn't be as worldly and wise if she was to raised in Ma. I was raised on Guam via two adventurous teachers from Michigan, so blessed!!
Can't argue with the trash problem, it's bad. We live in Bocas and it's a huge issue here as well. Labor laws - to be fair, try hiring foreigners in the US legally. It's far from easy. Your only recourse is H1-B worker visas, which are limited in numbers every year and only available to skilled workers with college education, as well as proof that the job was advertised at market price and no US citizen or resident qualified for the job. I know because I went through it immigrating into the US in the late 90s. J1, F1, H1B visas, getting paid under the table, green card via marriage, 15 years to get my citizenship. Every country in the world has tight labor laws when it comes to hiring immigrants. The only reason we all got Panama residency so easily by creating a corporation is to boost the local economy by creating jobs. If we're going to start businesses only to hire other expats, why would they want us here?
Moved to Peru and everything you said is true for here. Omg the allergies are terrible for us too... My daughter has eczema and the dryness is serious.
The Canal Zone was immaculate before the 99 yr lease ended. In Boquete, there is much less trash since the stores stopped buying plastic bags to put your purchases in.
My mother's family lived in the Santa Clara area of Panama 😊. I haven't seen them since returning to the States .😢 I even lost contact with my Aunt & cousin. I really like watching your journey. 👍
The best travel hack is to buy your ticket at the airport. You don't have to pay the tax if you buy it at the airport which sometimes can mean a 50% discount.
G'day Guys Jordon, that sinus problem you live with is a controllable. I lived with similar until my mid 30's. I was advised to take one teaspoon of 'Organic Green Barley Powder' daily. (I use 'Synergy Natural' these days) first thing each morning. I simply drop it into a small half glass of water than shake it and swallow. NOTE: NO acidic food for a few hours before or after. IE Oranges, Lemons, Tomatoes.....etc Within a week or two my sinuses completely settled down and remain so to this day, for the first time in 20 plus years It completely cleared my little glands around my sinuses, and until I pass I will remain taking my teaspoon a day. I hope this works for you as it did for me. Cheers and keep up the good work Rosco
As a professional natural competitive bodybuilder, you are absolutely right about the mislabeling of "organic." The U.S. is absolutely horrible for this. The only way to be sure is to grow it yourself or read the ingredients, not the label. It's really the main reason why I want to leave the States. The food causes the health problems and the medication suppresses the symptoms, but doesn't treat the health problem that the food created.
You guys have had regrets all the way back to the bus Panama is cheep and super easy shipping from state side is super easy too i lived there for a little over a year and loved it
Flonase nasal spray, Zyrtec you can take 20 mg rather than 10mg twice a day and singulair all together if you have severe allergies and the netty pot and saline mists all do great things for allergies and asthma. that’s from an ENT too so it’ll save you a Drs Appt with an overpriced specialist who will give you all over the counter scripts and these exact ones and directions.
I just met a couple on the Skytrain in BC Canada who was from Panama, with two young boys they said they've been here for the last 5 months and are happier in Canada, we do live on One world!
Here in Boquete today. Your videos have always brought me peace, living in more crowded/crazy parts of South America for the last almost 5 years. I see why you love Boquete & the peace it brings. Too bad your in Vermont when I’m here!
They never said they weren't happy. They simply pointed out a few negatives. There would be negatives anywhere you live. Why would they continue building on the land if they were planning on leaving? They've said many times how much they love living there even though there are a few things they don't like.
I think they are just adding some drama to get attention, like when they made a big deal with the strikes we had, and as you notice, the tittle they use that they live in a “jungle” when we Panamanians know they are living in the mountains of Boquete near David where you can find anything. Boquete is a town where many US citizen and European live too.
Oh man, I love yall, I just found you. I’m a family man, yall are contagious. I am moving to the DR. Santo Domingo District National. And someone told me to checkout Panama. You all popped up. And Ty for the probiotic, I am going to order them. God Bless.
Having worked in food safety you are correct. Sadly organic labelling is not regulated in North America and I assume Panama is similar. The technicality ppl say is its a plant therefore it's organic. It's grassfed animal but skip over the water source as much can be or supplemented in water too. I would sadly caution that the health industry also has taken advantage of the loop hole of unregulated supplements. Many getting rich from selling unreliable dosing and unregulated manufacturing practices due to products not labelled as medical grade. Medicinal claims in unregulated supplement. Not all fall in this category but we have to do our research. Honestly animal husbandry is important in regards to parasites, infections and control zoonotic infections. Food safety exists for important reasons. Do not be too discouraged as there are many good food production practices too. Lets keep learning together.
Looking forward to that video where you guys first walk in the roastery ❤🎉 So glad Sadie's grandparents are getting to see her!! That must've been a great moment for everybody 😅 Enjoy!!
I have two adult children and a grandson , have to say your beautiful little girl is coming on leaps and bounds and is going to grow to be very grounded. Best thing i did was to email US embassy in Panama asking them to help you guys out with your citizenship by consulting with Panamanian government when you guys where having issues with it, as you guys are fantastic ambassador's for panama. I would love to know if it helped.
Sadie is Such a beauty n so smart n advanced for her age.....I think it's from having amazing parents And growing up on the farm And having dual language exposure. You guys are so in tune with the ppl in your life n those who work for you and/or for you. Watching you guys brings joy in my life! Hug that precious little girl for me.❤🙏🏻🤗🐾
We live in Boquete. Where do you buy your imported organic produce and veggies? We need to shop there. We're very concerned with the heavy pesticide use on the local produce. Thank you!
I don't know. I am European and have been living in Panama for 3 years now. I do have my problems but don't really understand what you guys are complainig about?! You guys speak any spanish?
Hey me again from Trinidad and Tobago looking at you guys there bring back memories me there back in 2014 representing my country rugby with team as a coach
It sure is challenging living 🇵🇦 here, but man I love it! Besides you guys crush it wherever you go. I Love Love Love you so so so so much! Besitos for Sadie 💖🤗😘😘😘
No matter how far it is or how long you’ve been gone- it is ALWAYS one of the best feelings is to go home 🏡!!!! And visiting Vermont and your Roastery is added to my bucket list ! Thanks again for another great vid !!! ❤️🏡❤️👍🙏
Finding a local beekeeper in whatever country we lived REALLY helped me with my allergies. I would take two tablespoons of that local honey each morning and within 3 weeks my allergies were not a bother.
Your both friggin awesome , and little Sadie to , I love to see you Jordan and your family Kaylee and Sadie get on in your lives, I don’t have much in my life, but you know I am content In my life , even everything I have gone through this last five years of my life to, such is my life so thanks for that 👍❤
Seriously your business is in the US, your families are there, and there is nothing more important for Sadie than having her blood family there. You owe her that now that you have played out your early years traveling. Time to settle at home with her and when she is old enough to go on her own, proceed with your travels. P.S. Love the hair cut and the tightening up of the facial hair.
Hey Jordan have you thought it could be tree mould allergy that is the next level up from hay fever. Especially the ,old in the jungle when everything drops to the ground it then gets wet and rots, the cycle is none stop. Just a tip
Jordan, allergies can be helped significantly by taking the vitamin Niacin. The “flush” is uncomfortable but you won’t have allergies all day if you take it in the morning. You have to eat before taking it but do not take it with chocolate. An overdose is extremely uncomfortable and can be dangerous so start with the minimum daily recommended and see how it helps you. It’s the only thing that’s actually helped my allergies.
Panama is beautiful I lived there back in the late 80’s everything was very cheap. The only bad thing I remember was people getting robed all the time at the bus station and the buses driving so fast in the road. The trash was not a big problem then. I had fun and loved my time living there. I would love to visit Vermont it is beautiful out there. Enjoy your time with family and friends. ❤️
The allergies!!! I lived in El Valle for 3 years and the allergies were absolutely insufferable. I went to a fancy allergist in the city and uncovered a dust mite allergy. I think the humidity and warmth leads to much more dust mites. Since moving to Panama City, it has been much better.
I have lived in Panama for the past 23 years. I even became a Panamanian citizen. I haven't been back to thr US in over 10 years. I am here to stay.
@@robertgillies9382 my only hold back in Panama is not being able to speak Spanish. At 67 years old I don't particularly care to learn a new language. English is enough for me.
@@Robert-ho1iebut everyone expects everyone to learn English when they come here..
@@travisspaulding9540 Everyone??????
@@Robert-ho1ie obviously not everyone, but 1,000% the majority, stop playing.
@@travisspaulding9540 ok, whatever
I don't know if you guys speak Spanish, but that helps. I speak Spanish and I haggled with the natives and got better prices. The Panamanians love negotiating especially if you try to speak their language. I never felt cheated. So sorry it didn't work out for you.
@susancarrington8091 right you can haggle but Panama.is still very expensive relative to what the country offers. It's still a beautiful and wild.place tho.
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I'm glad your back home to the USA, ILL BE GLAD GOING BACK HOME TO PANAMA 🇵🇦 SOOOOONNNN, I miss the trash the heat the mold I miss everything you regret
I live in California and I miss my Panama as well. I had the fortune to be born in the smallest province and grew up in the country side of it. I will never
regret living there; drinking fresh milk every morning and climbing the big mangoes and guava trees in my backyard . Picking fresh corn, watermelons, tomatoes, oranges,papayas, plátanos…and swimming in the river during the dry season was the best! I really miss the heavy rain and thunder too!
Nice One. Like the US is Utopia LOL.
Living here for 8 years and NEVER experienced most of what you’re complaining about. Loving life here and everything it includes.
I was stationed in the CZ as a soldier. I've resided in Boquete 21.5 years. I've had a different set of issues... juega vivo
Panama doesn't seem the least bit interesting to me.
I am Panamanian and as a local I feel the prices has gone up because all the foreigners people living in the mountains.
You're full of it..just returned..it's a pit
You should take a trip to first world country
@@SenorJuan2023its not. I stayed there for several months.
I live in Ecuador with an ecuadorian wife. Much of which you mention applies here. The trash/litter is #1 for me. Everyone is late for everything #2. Dogs #3. Motorcycles especially, but all traffic laws ignored #4. Because my wife is an ecuadorian wheeler and dealer, we don't get gringoed much. BUT, people are very kind here and young people especially, are much more kind and respectful than you will normally encounter in the US.
I feel your comment. I live in El Salvador with my husband and two kids. My kids and I were born in the US while my hubby was born here. When he retired from being a fire fighter in 2020, we decided to pack up and come here. I’d say the first year was rough as we acclimated but now, we feel like true Salvadorans.
The whole running late think im pretty sure is cultural. Latin Americans seem to run on their own time. The stray dog issue is much better than it was when I first came here 20 years ago. People care for their animals now and our president has opened a government run vet when anything from a check-up to full surgery only costs $.25. Trash service just became a thing here within the last three years. It’s better but not perfect. And 100% traffic sucks! I laughed out loud getting my license because the “laws” here seem to be a suggestion only. The gringoing has kinda stopped at least in our town. They know I live here and I simply won’t but if they try and raise prices on me. I think most sellers at the market want to make at least some money vs nothing. I also am fluent in Spanish which throws them when they think I don’t understand but actually do.
I live in Ecuador with my Ecuadorian wife too 🇪🇨 👋 The crime is getting out of control now.
@@rsqpooh425sounds like the Philippines
I'm in Ecuador also.
They need to figure out how to keep the damn lights on!
My husband and I lived in Panama from 1978-1981 military duty, we loved it, well I did because I wasn’t the one in the Army LOL- we had our two oldest children born at Gorgas Hospital , we first lived off base in a small town called Arahjian( not sure if it’s spelled correctly), we met some great people and had lots of parties with Mike White, Krenke, McIntosh, Paul and Cindy Davis, Tricia and Butch Cheers, Chris and Ray Wilson, Pat and Louie, John and Bonita Abbey, Tony and Violet Attila and others too, we think about ALL of you guys often, if any of you guys read this, John was stationed at Ft. Kobbee! Peace and Love to All😊
Arraiján. Were you at Fort Amador? I was there and Clayton, and Davis
Arraiján is the correct way. It comes from the words “at right hand”.
@@johnwilliams7600 my husband was first at Ft. Koebe and then to Ft. Clayton
There's trash everywhere here in America for last 4 years
I’m a Panamanian, l have been living in the USA for 45 years, its a good place, but its also a pretty horrible place, l just don’t complain since l live here, You should not live in Panamá if you’re not happy.
Amen to that. Those whiners can keep exploring other parts of the world...
exactly
Would you move back
And Panamanian people are so much friendlier and more welcoming than the Americans.
The white tax is almost universal around the world. I let my Filipina wife pay for everything in the Philippines because I get the skin tax here and same for Thailand and Vietnam.
In my many years of traveling as an Expat I find that most folks who have regrets about living outside their home country typically stems from their lack of finances and poor spending habits. You see, when folks decide to travel the world many already having limited budgets it greatly restricts their choices and comfortability. Secondly, one of the many issues that some may face is having false expectations or fantasies about living abroad before actually having feet planted on the ground, as in, planning a short trip to said country to see what it is really like. This is why it is so important to be prepared financially and actually "GO THERE" for a couple of weeks first and see if it's the right fit.
For example, I have personally lived in the Philippines for over three years which in my opinion is one of the cheapest countries to live besides Vietnam and although things are relatively cheap there, many Expat fail to curb their poor spending habits telling themselves things are so cheap here and end up over spending and eventually go broke before they knew what hit them.
A word of caution, just because a country offer a cheaper living experience doesn't mean you won't or can't go broke because the reality is, you can and you will if not responsible and there is nothing worse than being broke in a third world or developing country.
We are all getting worried about you guys. I have been following u for years, and i know that u would let us know what's up if u could. Whatever has happened, we r sending u LOVE, LIGHT, HEALTH AND HEALING ENERGY !!! ❤
Consider taking regular doses of local Panamanian bee pollen during the rainy season to build up a resistance for the dry season.
and do a liver cleanse
Also look at using hapè or rapè also... but yes the local bee Honey will help.
Good sugestión ,you can buy pollen and every little grain reminds you of the smell of the flowers of the tree where the pollen came from
Back again to watch this video. I was as excited to see your Roastery my very first time in real life as your were your second time.
Don't ask me how I know this... I just do.
Sorry I arrived too early to meet you...
I am not at all good with crowds and such, so maybe it was best for me to arrive on what was probably "The Roastery" slowest day since start up.
I have long since finished the bag of coffee I bought.
I can't tell you what a bummer it is to drink store bought bugs, leaves, unexpected and rotten bean coffee. I have not been to "home base" for months. I will get there soon. Soon enough probably to order another bag, maybe two.
I worried if I bought too many bags it would get stale.
How goofy is that thought?!?! LOl 😆
What I buy at Walmart or such store cannot compare at its best, freshest, hit the shelf, into my van and poured into my cup.
Doh! What was thinking?
I drank every drop of every cup of Morning Movement Coffee I brewed in my simple pour over system in my van kitchen.
Morning Movement Coffee ☕️ is a bargain, drop for drop it is delicious. There is no comparison to any other.
My "ticker" appreciates one great cup of coffee ☕️ to start my day.
My "ticker" objects to anything more than half a cup full of .... the other stuff.
If you ever have need of a Granny farmland at Lola's farm.
I turn Shananavan to the south from north of 60° forevermore ❣️
We moved to Volcan, Panama last March and love it here. The weather is perfect for us.
By leaving they have done their part to remove some of the pollution in panama. Their snobbery and smelly sense of entitlement was surely an eyesore for the great nation of Panama.Well they were not happy when told they had to hire Panama residents for their failed business venture. These influencers are just living off the host organism called the subscriber's and sponsors.
I have regrets about clicking on this video.
These guys should have moved to CA years ago!
Except the ad that was nice
me too! haha. they look like a pair of suckers & a snob - miles away.
I’m with ya. Crying about organic. Babies
Good one lol 😆
The trash situation has been getting much better over the last couple of decades.
Panama has the lowest population density in Central America, so the people are used to having a lot of room.
It has been a long road in getting the people to dispose of their trash properly, but it is getting better all the time.
There was a time in the USA during the late 60's and early 70's that the same problem was experienced and that took a couple of decades and a lot of fines to change society.
Belize 🇧🇿 actually has the lowest population density in C.A.
Here in Texas where I live (Dallas metroplex) the trash problem is horrendous! There are many streets that look like the trash truck drove through and spread all of it’s contents. It’s everywhere!
@@kd8199 That is true. The 70's had a statewide campaign launched called "Don't mess with Texas" It focused on keeping the roadways litter free & worked after a few years! Unfortunately over the past decade, the large city centers have big vagrant & homeless problems, people with mental/drug abuse issues etc and the trash is yet a symptom from all of this. 🥲
This touched me … I think your viewers will easily understand how and why you’re feeling the way you’re feeling. There’s no time in life for regrets but there is time for love and being where your heart desires. You’ll know where you need to be. Just keep moving forward with your positive energy and love and God will guide you. I can’t wait to see Jordon walk into the roastery and see what the people do when they see him! Enjoy your time in Stowe!! ❤
Yep. Organic produce is a problem. That's why we started a 100% organic vegetable farm 2½ years ago in Volcan. Unfortunately we don't deliver to Boquete. 😢 Your so right, organic certification is usually bogus. That's why we tell people to come to our farm and see for themselves, that we have no chemicals! 😂
As a USA retiree residing in Panama, I strongly disagree with 90% of the comments on this video of Panama. It sounded like you are refering to another country that is not Panama. By the way expats retirees get 10% off on all prices including airfair
Learn Spanish, call yourself an immigrant not an expat, and don't make things expensive for locals.
That is a Panamanian government policy choice. Hold your own government accountable.
Where are you guys?!?!😢😢 starting to get worried. I’m having TNM withdrawals. Lol really hope all is well with all of you.
Mold on the produce? I think that’s more of an issue where you guys are with all the rain. We are just outside of Penonomé and during the dry season we haven’t experienced this at all. You guys still get rain in Boquete during the dry season don’t you?
One issue we do have about finding certain foods is finding gluten free stuff. You can get gluten free flour at Riba Smith for your own cooking and baking, but nothing in the Panaderías or restaurants near us in the interior.
Still wouldn’t change our location choice at all though. Love it here!
Netting over your new garden beds will support the plants exponentially! Not only less bugs, but the slight wind break really helps. I know it is a huge challenge, but I think you will find it a great idea.
You can find responsibly grown produce at the Tuesday market. Not everyone uses the bad herbicides and pesticides, although it is a real problem throughout Panama.
Great to see the old Town. So good to hear the Roastery is doing well. I'll be having my first cup of morning movement later this Summer!
I think I have said this before. If you have a mold or pollen allergy, you should use a HEPA filter. It will actually filter out the mold and pollen. It will blow air at you that should give you instant relief. However, you may literally have to put the exhaust directly in your face to get the best relief. When my allergies kick in, I just hug that dang thing during the night, but it is so great. Really, give it a try. When I get relief at night, I can make it through the day. Also, meds are a bit better in the day.
Hey jordon, have you tried local honeys to help with your allergies? Like specifically pollinated from the tree you are allergic to? I know it works for children, its like building up a tolerance to it. Allergies are miserable 😣
Yes true, chewing the cappings for 5 mins then spitting it out also works wonders.
❤
What are cappings ??
Enjoy your time with your family and friends. Grandparents love to see their grandchildren! My first granddaughter is one month old now!
The Daily Mail article on 9-23-23: "Massachusetts couple who live on an off-grid farm in PANAMA reveal brutal downsides to their remote lifestyle - from suffering through freezing cold showers to going SIX YEARS without a TOILET." The DM combined the titles of this video with the one where you announced that you were "Leaving Panama" to make it sound like it was permanent. There is an agenda at work.
You guys are amazing. It’s awesome that you live both parts of the world- rural and urban. Sadie has the best parents and she is such a healthy, inquisitive and intelligent child! Beautiful family!
Panama is both just like everywhere lol
Rains for 6 months, dry for rest… weird u hot allergies down there we never did til I moved to the USA, just grab from trees we do! Markets in Casco viejo most expensive part of Panama
Never read so much drivel in my entire life. What's so "amazing" and "awesome" about a couple of attention seeking deadheads ?
Hey Guys , We live in Buckfield , Maine and on Wen. the 7th we will be leaving early for Stowe , Vermount. And about 3 hours later We should be pulling into Your Roastery parking lot hoping to finally meet You Folks in person and to have some of that Great Coffee !!! We love Your show and Your coffee as well , Hope to see You then !!
Stowe
I haven't seen y'all for over a year. The last vid, of yours, I watched you were packing coffee 2+ years ago; wanted to tell you that y'all are looking good! Sadie's smile is so beautiful! Interesting hearing your regrets....
Funny you talk about trash in Panama. Have you been to Baltimore? Philly? Detroit? Some parts of NY, Boston, LA, Denver, Miami, Atlanta, etc etc? Or Even Seattle? Make Panama trash feel like nothing. Every city, every country has good things and bad things. I can tell you that at least when I’m overseas I know I won’t get shot at a shopping mall, a concert, a movie theater etc etc..
And I definitely know for sure that my children are safe going to a normal school. Also discrimination and racism still a huge problem in the United States! Definitely a great country but not even close to perfect.
Thanks for the reality check!
I got my hug and MORE. I traveled to Stowe from Montreal, Québec, Canada just to see them this past weekend. My husband, who is an ultramarathon, wanted to train somewhere, and I suggested Mont Mansfield. This was a special request because I knew that Kaylee and Jordan were in town. My camping trip to Smuggler's Notch was the best EVER because I met the most fantastic family EVER. Kaylee and Jordan are living the life that I have always dreamed of. They are so genuine and authentic. What you see on video is what you'll get if you meet them in person. This past weekend, but specifically June 3, will forever have an exceptional place in my heart. Ok, so I bought LOTS of coffee. My husband, who is a chef, will make coffee cake, coffee, and some sort of soufflé mouse with the coffee I bought.
HOLA SOY PANAMENA Y VIVO EN BOSTON MASS POR ANOS ACA ES PEOR QUE PANAMA LA BASURA, LA SEGURIDAD , HAY DE TODO UN POCO UN GRAN PAIS PERO IGUAL QUE PANAMA TIENE LUGARES MEJORES QUE OTROS POR EJEMPLO COMO SE MIRAN LOS LUGARES DONDE VIVEN LAS PERSONAS EN LA CALLE DONDE SEA HAY COSAS BUENAS Y MALAS NO SOLO PANAMA
Bueno...ni te cuento lo que está pasando en Seattle, Los Angeles y Philadelphia.....la basura, el número infinito de drogadictos viviendo en las avenidas y las heces humanas en las calles...es realmente una pesadilla!
Bien dicho, estos viviendo y comiendo de Panama, y hablando babosadas como si aca en EEUU es un paraiso. El paraiso es Panama, y mucha prosperidad viene, y muchos americanos y canadiense se estan retirando a Panama no ahora pero desde uhh. Me retiro este diciembre a Panama
En EE.UU. hay mucha menos basura, donde los impuestos sobre la propiedad son más caros.
Totalmente de acuerdo! Yo también soy de Panamá y vivo en EU y aquí también hay cosas que no hay en Panamá, al menos no en el interior del país.
En California tú ves a las personas viviendo en sus carros, en la calle en sus casita de acampar con su cochinero y basuras en los carritos del supermercado.
Aquí en California tú ves a los “homeless” que parecen zombies caminando en las calles cogido en las drogas.
Y no me extrañaría que se vean en otras partes de EU. Es como tú dices, cada país tiene sus áreas bonitas y otras no tanto.
Al parecer estos RUclipsrs no han visto otras partes de Panamá. Y solo porque ahora viven en las montañas de Chiriquí, que por cierto le llaman “jungla” ya creen saberlo todo sobre Panamá. 🤣
@@johnwilliams7600 Has you seen the tents cities in LA and San Francisco or other parts of the US? where homeless has trash everywhere? They pee and poop outside downtown SF & LA and walk like zombies on the streets, that’s nothing compared to the trash problem in Panamá.
No regrets guys! You have learned and achieved so much in every area of your lives. Having a psychology degree, a health-supportive culinary degree and as a grandmother who was a tenured teaching assistant in a kindergarten class for 5 years and am currently in a preschool......Sadie is the most happy, well-adjusted, smart, adorable child. Children learn through play and her growth is astounding because of hands on learning, exposure to so many new experiences..it is such a joy to watch. Thank you for your candidness, authenticity and opening up your lives to us. Your videos always make me smile!❤❤
Well said! 👏🏻👏🏻😉😎
So true ❤
Well said Ms Pam!
Panamá has always had issues with how to dispose trash, there have been proyects, but every new government administration has been so corrupted and stole the millions of dollars addressed 14:00 to fix it.😢 The people of Panama, the poor ones are the victims of this corruption.
Well, even if you get overcharged, the land, and the vehicles are affordable comparing to US. I live in Tampa, and as a panamenian I can say that the employees there make one third, or less of what they make here. ❤🇵🇦🇺🇲
What she said!!❤❤❤❤❤
Well when it comes to recycling the US isn’t much better. Most people don’t realize that less than 9% of recyclables ever gets recycled in our country even when people are doing the right things. The recyclables like laundry bottles etc, are just shipped over to 3rd world countries and they dump it on the beaches. It is disgusting and one thing I hat about the US. The holier than thou attitude.
In Panama believe it or not, we recycle and rehuse things, and when things break down such as an appliance, we try to fix it and we use it until its not good anymore, while here in California everything seems to be disposable.
I have noticed a lot of things go to landfills because people buy new things all the time! You know new clothes every seasons, new cars and so on.
"I hate the US because the 3rd world countries were paying to recycle our recyclables are just taking the money and dumping it in the ocean!"
@@clemenciasanchez8016that's because we Americans are spoiled rotten and take things for granted. At least some do. Go live in a developing country and see how people make do with what they have! No other choice.
Looks cleaner than most US cities. You guys should visit Kensington Ave. in Philly next. Bet you'd be on the next flight back to Panama...LOL!
Well these spoiled rich brats are above it all.
Omg! I live with my son not too far from Kensighton Avenue the zombies are real/ crackheads.
Can't wait to see the video when you first walk back into the Roaster.
Sadie's way too cute😍 Little Miss Sunshine.🌞 Love y'all!😘❤
Wow, I hope you guys are OK 😢 it's been two weeks since your last upload, and I'm getting a little worried ❤
Me too
I have been all over central and south America and I can tell you the regrets listed here in this video will be found in all the other places in the hemisphere including North America. Sure, they won't be the exact same ones but every place I have been has some down-side to go with the advantages. Also, they are not retirees and if you are a retiree, Panama has a great pensionado program that is probably the best in central or south America, plus for Americans, Panama is on the US dollar so there is no money conversion for you. Bottom line, Panama is a great place to live, just go and see if you fit with it or maybe another country is a better fit for you.
Look at all the RUclipsrs that are vegan and ok only eat organic and they got cancer! Stop programming yourselves and just enjoy, focus on eliminating stress and have loads of fun
Look at you telling people they are "programmed" for wanting to lead a cruelty-free life.
I bet they vegan and got covid shots. Some look like druggies too😂
What? 😕
There is no link between veganism and cancer.
@@BellarineDream look at you thinking that encouraging people to eat vegan isn’t destroying more habitat and requires the entire elimination of all the species previously inhabiting those acres. Just like you enjoy reminding people that animals are sacrificed when they are used for food….im here to remind you that other than bats and bees (pollinators), industrial farms are intent to eliminate everything which threatens a percentage point of profit to feed people like you.
Newsflash….organic branding is a joke to the countries who have been feeding their soil for centuries and they laugh at the percentage of poison that “organic” allows 🙄. Their food and every product that touches the inside or outside of a human body must not have any trace of over 1400 elements. The US has only 11 🤦♀️. ….who looks silly now?
This native Panamanian is super proud of all that you have accomplished here in the US and my native land. Your care and sincerity shine through. Here is to your continued successes. I came on board for your epic ride around Sadie's birth. She is growing beautifully. You have so much to be proud and happy about. Blessings.🎉
No posts since you are back at the cafe in Vermont. I hope all is well. It’s just not like you guys to not post videos…
Mad Respect
for you Both!!!❤
have you considered wearing n95 masks to filter the pollen out during the dry season? If I am building something I always have to wear an n95 mask. Another thing you could do is wear enclosed safety glasses. I know that is way out there but if you want to keep crap out of your eyes that is the way to do it. On the farm who is going to see you but the family and close friends. Who cares right?
I was just thinking the same thing. Putting a few drops of essential oil on mask may stop the allergen. I too am allergic to molds. I keep my ozone air purifier on low in my dwelling. Also hydrogen peroxide kills mold. I ingest a few drops of HPeroxide in a glass of water daily.
And just for the record. Those regrets didn't add up to much. Way more positives than negatives.
No Regrets!!! All lessons in life to be learnt…Your experiences and adventures will carry you and your family far…Sadie is extremely advanced because of your life choices…What a lucky little girl to have parents who are open minded enough to step out of their comfort zone to live…👠🚌👠
Just keep moving forward
Take note of local prices, learn how to ask for them in Spanish
regatear or bargaining is customary and unless they are dishonest, once you show people you understand, you can get the local prices.
also show a real interest in learning about the foods your indigenous friends families grow and live off of, and how to cultivate them on your land.
I can relate to many of the items on you list. One surprising one for me was about the Family. For us, We wish we had gone ahead and moved farther away than Mexico, like Ecuador or Nicaragua. Plane trip is a plane trip, and it works both ways. Can't wait to see inside the Roastery and how it is looking today. Awesome video. Thanks
I was very fortunate living in the Amazon of Peru. The locals knew me, I was called “The Satipo Gringo” but I never was charged more at the market. Now, buying land was a challenge, they wanted triple the price for a gringo! I got to the point I did not notice the garbage along the roads. Peru really cleaned up during Covid. Of course I had as little contact with Lima as possible. I have no regrets. I just accept their culture and live on. I lived aiming the Sendero Luminoso, but they never bothered me. But Covid drove me out, I’m now in Mexico.
Don't regret anything
Yes
Your worst allergen is perhaps airborne mold spores. When I moved to Kentucky, I was surprised to see their weather reports often include "mold counts". I was tested and found to be highly allergic to such mold. Rain knocks the mold out of the air, and the freezing temperatures also provides relief. The medication, Montelukast, seems to be a wonder drug for me, but it has a growing list of warnings.
I agree with you about montelukast. When I’m at my most miserable, that’s the only thing that works! I’m not allergic to mold but I am very allergic to weeds here in dry Colorado in late summer and fall until we get a hard freeze! If it rains I feel great because it knocks the pollen down temporarily.
I moved from Kentucky to the mountains of Panamá. My allergies are much better here than in Kentucky.
Raising Sadie in Panama, is the best thing you could do fore her. Family is great, however she couldn't be as worldly and wise if she was to raised in Ma. I was raised on Guam via two adventurous teachers from Michigan, so blessed!!
Baby girl has Daddys hair and eyes for sure! Shes such a happy little girl...growing so fast...enjoy every moment...
man you guys are killing it with the uploads lately 🚀🚀
Can't argue with the trash problem, it's bad. We live in Bocas and it's a huge issue here as well.
Labor laws - to be fair, try hiring foreigners in the US legally. It's far from easy. Your only recourse is H1-B worker visas, which are limited in numbers every year and only available to skilled workers with college education, as well as proof that the job was advertised at market price and no US citizen or resident qualified for the job. I know because I went through it immigrating into the US in the late 90s. J1, F1, H1B visas, getting paid under the table, green card via marriage, 15 years to get my citizenship.
Every country in the world has tight labor laws when it comes to hiring immigrants. The only reason we all got Panama residency so easily by creating a corporation is to boost the local economy by creating jobs. If we're going to start businesses only to hire other expats, why would they want us here?
You gonna make these spoiled kids cry. Its bad bad panama. Spoiled brats good.
Moved to Peru and everything you said is true for here. Omg the allergies are terrible for us too... My daughter has eczema and the dryness is serious.
ALLERGRA D HELPS...SO MUCH.OTC
Like me going to Nebraska... seriously!😊
That child is lovely, congratulations to both of you
The trash issue is everywhere in the world including the USA 🇺🇸
They've travelled all over the US as vanlifers, so if they noticed a difference in Panama, there's probably some truth to it.
@@jgoo4572 True.
The Canal Zone was immaculate before the 99 yr lease ended. In Boquete, there is much less trash since the stores stopped buying plastic bags to put your purchases in.
Hey friends. I hope all is well in Stowe. Missing you and much love sent your way.
Are you guys OK? It's been 2 weeks since your last video. Did you quit? Is something wrong?
My mother's family lived in the Santa Clara area of Panama 😊. I haven't seen them since returning to the States .😢 I even lost contact with my Aunt & cousin. I really like watching your journey. 👍
The best travel hack is to buy your ticket at the airport. You don't have to pay the tax if you buy it at the airport which sometimes can mean a 50% discount.
Great tip Mark.
Thanks Mark nice hack. Canyou buy it cheaper for a 1- month time frame and get that discount?
Most arilines no longer offer ticket offices at the airport. So not sure how good of a tip this is?
G'day Guys
Jordon, that sinus problem you live with is a controllable.
I lived with similar until my mid 30's.
I was advised to take one teaspoon of 'Organic Green Barley Powder' daily.
(I use 'Synergy Natural' these days) first thing each morning.
I simply drop it into a small half glass of water than shake it and swallow.
NOTE: NO acidic food for a few hours before or after.
IE Oranges, Lemons, Tomatoes.....etc
Within a week or two my sinuses completely settled down and remain so to this day, for the first time in 20 plus years
It completely cleared my little glands around my sinuses,
and until I pass I will remain taking my teaspoon a day.
I hope this works for you as it did for me.
Cheers and keep up the good work
Rosco
That’s interesting about the pesticides use in Panama!!! Wow!!! You would think Panama’s produce would be ‘glean’. Hmmm. 🌻
As a professional natural competitive bodybuilder, you are absolutely right about the mislabeling of "organic." The U.S. is absolutely horrible for this. The only way to be sure is to grow it yourself or read the ingredients, not the label. It's really the main reason why I want to leave the States. The food causes the health problems and the medication suppresses the symptoms, but doesn't treat the health problem that the food created.
Panama:
Laugh or leave! Nobody ever told y'all????
Well....these two want to play victims....any advice will go out the window!
You guys have had regrets all the way back to the bus Panama is cheep and super easy shipping from state side is super easy too i lived there for a little over a year and loved it
Knock knock where are y’all it’s been 12 days are y’all ok
Flonase nasal spray, Zyrtec you can take 20 mg rather than 10mg twice a day and singulair all together if you have severe allergies and the netty pot and saline mists all do great things for allergies and asthma. that’s from an ENT too so it’ll save you a Drs Appt with an overpriced specialist who will give you all over the counter scripts and these exact ones and directions.
People need to stop comparing their living experience to the US or Europe!! Enjoy the experience while you’re there and learn Spanish!!!
I just met a couple on the Skytrain in BC Canada who was from Panama, with two young boys they said they've been here for the last 5 months and are happier in Canada, we do live on One world!
Jordan have you considered doing the U.S. Brewers Cup? Doing it yourself to get your coffee out there?
Exactly, also there is corruption in Panama "s competition too... it's all about $$$$
Here in Boquete today. Your videos have always brought me peace, living in more crowded/crazy parts of South America for the last almost 5 years. I see why you love Boquete & the peace it brings. Too bad your in Vermont when I’m here!
So if sounds like you’re not happy in Panama, so are you guys planning to leave?
They never said they weren't happy. They simply pointed out a few negatives. There would be negatives anywhere you live. Why would they continue building on the land if they were planning on leaving? They've said many times how much they love living there even though there are a few things they don't like.
I think they are just adding some drama to get attention, like when they made a big deal with the strikes we had, and as you notice, the tittle
they use that they live in a “jungle” when we Panamanians know they are living in the mountains of Boquete near David where you can find anything. Boquete is a town where many US citizen and European live too.
I know you guys are back. Can’t wait to see your next video. We have all missed you guys.
I wish I had parents like you two glowing up. Your parenting abilities are top notch. ❤
Oh man, I love yall, I just found you. I’m a family man, yall are contagious. I am moving to the DR. Santo Domingo District National. And someone told me to checkout Panama. You all popped up. And Ty for the probiotic, I am going to order them. God Bless.
Are they not filming frequently anymore? It feels like they are slowly disappearing 😢
They seem to be taking long travel trips several times a year. Videos go down at that time.
Having worked in food safety you are correct. Sadly organic labelling is not regulated in North America and I assume Panama is similar. The technicality ppl say is its a plant therefore it's organic. It's grassfed animal but skip over the water source as much can be or supplemented in water too. I would sadly caution that the health industry also has taken advantage of the loop hole of unregulated supplements. Many getting rich from selling unreliable dosing and unregulated manufacturing practices due to products not labelled as medical grade. Medicinal claims in unregulated supplement. Not all fall in this category but we have to do our research. Honestly animal husbandry is important in regards to parasites, infections and control zoonotic infections. Food safety exists for important reasons. Do not be too discouraged as there are many good food production practices too. Lets keep learning together.
Looking forward to that video where you guys first walk in the roastery ❤🎉 So glad Sadie's grandparents are getting to see her!! That must've been a great moment for everybody 😅 Enjoy!!
I have two adult children and a grandson , have to say your beautiful little girl is coming on leaps and bounds and is going to grow to be very grounded.
Best thing i did was to email US embassy in Panama asking them to help you guys out with your citizenship by consulting with Panamanian government when you guys where having issues with it, as you guys are fantastic ambassador's for panama.
I would love to know if it helped.
Sadie is Such a beauty n so smart n advanced for her age.....I think it's from having amazing parents And growing up on the farm And having dual language exposure. You guys are so in tune with the ppl in your life n those who work for you and/or for you. Watching you guys brings joy in my life! Hug that precious little girl for me.❤🙏🏻🤗🐾
We live in Boquete. Where do you buy your imported organic produce and veggies? We need to shop there. We're very concerned with the heavy pesticide use on the local produce. Thank you!
I don’t believe in labels either. Organic produces use just “less pesticides”.😂
Have rodrigo go to purchase some of your items just take him and act like a visitor
You were so kind when you stated they don’t have a system in place to handle trash. There will never be system until the people change.
I don't know. I am European and have been living in Panama for 3 years now. I do have my problems but don't really understand what you guys are complainig about?! You guys speak any spanish?
This. Like...the out of touch is real
Hey me again from Trinidad and Tobago looking at you guys there bring back memories me there back in 2014 representing my country rugby with team as a coach
It sure is challenging living 🇵🇦 here, but man I love it! Besides you guys crush it wherever you go. I Love Love Love you so so so so much! Besitos for Sadie 💖🤗😘😘😘
It is? I've lived here for 18 years. This video is humorous for sure.
No matter how far it is or how long you’ve been gone- it is ALWAYS one of the best feelings is to go home 🏡!!!!
And visiting Vermont and your Roastery is added to my bucket list !
Thanks again for another great vid !!! ❤️🏡❤️👍🙏
Finding a local beekeeper in whatever country we lived REALLY helped me with my allergies. I would take two tablespoons of that local honey each morning and within 3 weeks my allergies were not a bother.
Your both friggin awesome , and little Sadie to , I love to see you Jordan and your family Kaylee and Sadie get on in your lives, I don’t have much in my life, but you know I am content In my life , even everything I have gone through this last five years of my life to, such is my life so thanks for that 👍❤
Hope all is well no videos in 2 weeks
I really appreciate your videos, especially how much you share and explain… like being there with you, take care💜
Are yall ok?
Seriously your business is in the US, your families are there, and there is nothing more important for Sadie than having her blood family there. You owe her that now that you have played out your early years traveling. Time to settle at home with her and when she is old enough to go on her own, proceed with your travels.
P.S. Love the hair cut and the tightening up of the facial hair.
Go local, forget about organic
Hey Jordan have you thought it could be tree mould allergy that is the next level up from hay fever. Especially the ,old in the jungle when everything drops to the ground it then gets wet and rots, the cycle is none stop. Just a tip
Love to you and your family! 😘😘😘
Jordan, allergies can be helped significantly by taking the vitamin Niacin. The “flush” is uncomfortable but you won’t have allergies all day if you take it in the morning. You have to eat before taking it but do not take it with chocolate. An overdose is extremely uncomfortable and can be dangerous so start with the minimum daily recommended and see how it helps you.
It’s the only thing that’s actually helped my allergies.
Panama is beautiful I lived there back in the late 80’s everything was very cheap. The only bad thing I remember was people getting robed all the time at the bus station and the buses driving so fast in the road. The trash was not a big problem then. I had fun and loved my time living there. I would love to visit Vermont it is beautiful out there. Enjoy your time with family and friends. ❤️
The allergies!!! I lived in El Valle for 3 years and the allergies were absolutely insufferable. I went to a fancy allergist in the city and uncovered a dust mite allergy. I think the humidity and warmth leads to much more dust mites.
Since moving to Panama City, it has been much better.