I stayed in Boquete gardens boutique and loved every minute of it. We went up to the coffee plantation at the top of the hill and saw so many beautiful hummingbirds. The weather is lovely and if you put a stick in the ground, I swear a flower will grow out of it! So many more things to see, I hope to go back!
I LIVED 8 YEARS IN NICARAGUA, 4 YEARS IN PANAMA, AND IN MY 18TH YEAR IN COSTA RICA. WEST COAST OF NICARAGUA HAS BEST BEACH WEATHER. 6 MONTHS OF BLUE SKIES, BUT VERY HOT. NICARAGUA IS ALSO THE CHEAPEST TO LIVE IN. PANAMA IS BY FAR THE BEST VALUE FOR MONEY. FIRST WORLD LIVING AT THIRD WORLD PRICES. COSTA RICA IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL OF THE THREE COUNTRIES WITH BEACHES, JUNGLES, MOUNTAINS, CITIES AND WILDLIFE ALL IN A STONES THROW FROM WHERE EVER YOU ARE, BUT IT IS ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE OF THE THREE COUNTRIES. COSTA RICA IS NOT GOOD VALUE FOR MONEY WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO PANAMA AND NICARAGUA. IN MY OPINION PANAMA AND NICARAGUA ARE SAFER THAN COSTA RICA AS WELL. ALL THREE COUNTRIES ARE LAID BACK AND HAVE VERY RELAXED LIFESTYLES. IT RAINS MUCH LESS IN NICARAGUA THAN IT DOES IN PANAMA AND COSTA RICA. NICARAGUA HAS CLOUDLESS BLUE SKIES FOR 6 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, BUT IT IS ALSO THE HOTTEST OF THE THREE COUNTRIES. IN PANAMA AND COSTA RICA IT RAINS HEAVILY FOR 8 TO 9 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. YOU WILL BE VERY LUCKY TO SEE THE SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. COSTA RICA HAS THE COOLEST CLIMATE OF THE THREE. I RECOMMEND SPENDING A FEW MONTHS IN EACH COUNTRY BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DECISION IN WICH OF THE THREE COUNTRIES YOU WANT TO LIVE IN.
@@victorcosta9590 I've visited Boquete numerous times. A nice place to visit, but I would not live there. If I were to move to Panama it would be to Volcan.
Sounds like some folks here need to travel outside of the United States. Over the past three decades, many Latin American countries have exceeded health care services provided in many U.S. cities. Also, many cities in Asia are actually more developed than many cities in the U.S. in terms of internet connectivity, health care, and infrastructure. Just a side note, "Third World" is a phrase frequently used to describe a developing nation. Despite its current usage, the phrase emerged during the Cold War to identify countries whose views did not align with NATO and capitalism or the Soviet Union and communism. The First World described countries whose views aligned with NATO and capitalism and the Second World referred to countries that supported communism and the Soviet Union.
@@chattingwithu - The United States has a lot going for itself. The ease of entry into commerce, the wide open spaces, the dream of a better life, etc. In the history of the world, it is probably the most progressive. Yet, as the world is slowly seeing, there are also many pitfalls and societal inequalities just like everywhere else - it has it good and bad sides. Having said that, there are many countries out there that have taken some of that good example and made it better. The beauty of travel is being able to experience those differences and realizing no one country is perfect but you may find one perfect for you.
@@avid580 America is by far the most inclusive country in all the world - we just prefer people coming in through the front door- legally! But we welcome all races colors n creeds!
@@chattingwithu - Sure, that's agreeable. But no one country is perfect so there is always room for improvement. Don't discount the progress made in other countries though. I encourage you to see what else is out there!
Emilio, like I said up, the snakes, toads, scorpions the size of Buicks and spiders the size of your hands all over. Se me encuera el chino, digo, se me enchina el cuero.
Go to Mexico. There are so many different places to live that are affordable. Lake Chapala is a great retirement place to live but you must be careful to choose areas that aren’t overpriced, great weather all year round, even in rainy season rains late day/evening or overnight thunderstorms. You have everything you need there...Heath care is great! I recently had surgery so I know. Why live so far from the USA if you are from there vs. South or Central America?
Once you need a flight, I don't think the distance matters very much, whether it is 3000 miles or 6000. Problem with all the Americas really, south of Canada, is poverty and crime, and all those police and military forces mentioned in the video are sadly there for a reason in Panama, and in Mexico no doubt. Then again, there will be some give and takes between all of these countries and locations, not to mention that for retirees their arthritis and bladder are more likely to bother you than your geographical coordinates :)
@@HectorGarcia-nb2ld Wow. Think about how all those Black people felt all those years in South Africa living under Apartheid.Try 60 or so years of that....and you aren't even living there just looking from afar.
If you're looking to relocate and retire in Panama. We highly recommend booking a relocation tour. Here's a link to learn more growingupwithoutborders.com/Panamarelocation
@@normagertz9055 I'm about to publish a new video I did with a lady who helps people relocate to Panama. She's a great resource if you have any questions.
Boquete has been active for decades. Mexico also has a good deal for health care in the East Mexico expat region. After two years you can sign up for their health care system. It isn't uniformly good around the country, but in the East Mexican Expat area they cater to expats and the health clinics are better. Expats actually do help support improvements and English is widespread. Groceries have more diverse items..etc.
Great video. Good information. We visited back in October/November of 2018. Want to move there. Lots of rain but that’s fine. Loved the cool temperatures, the mountains and just about everything. It’s not for everyone though, there are some downsides but in my opinion well worth it.
October/November is part of the rainy season. He says there are lots of climates surrounding him. Were you in a particularly rainy part? He seems to say that where he is located is not all that rainy, but farther up the mountain is.
I absolutely enjoy Boquete in Chiriqui! I had the opportunity to visit there in December. The town is beautiful. It’s definitely booming. I felt safe even at night times. The people are friendly overall. I definitely am considering investing in a property in Chiriqui/Boquete.
That's awesome! If you need help, I'd reach out to Jackie. Here's the link to her company. She helps people relocate here. growingupwithoutborders.com/Panamarelocation
We moved from upstate NY (Lake Placid) to US Virgin Islands in 2009. I planned to work towards retirement and remain here. As we get closer to retirement we began considering cost of living and quality of life. We love the quality of life but cost of living is very high here. Moving to the islands required a paradigm change which we managed nicely. We are now considering Panama and the Azuero peninsula, Boquete, Chitre, Las Tables, and Pedasi in particular. We have friends that moved there and love it. Your video is most helpful in confirming what we have been told. Thank you for your video and the information and beautiful views it provided.
Hi Jeff, that's great. If you already did the move once, I'm sure you'll be just fine. Are there other countries you're considering? I'm curious since many are choosing Portugal but this might be more so the Europeans.
You are absolutely gorgeous and I really enjoyed this video. My best friend lives in Panama city and we spent a week traveling around. I so much love Panama, people, food, weather, culture, beautiful mountains and great beaches. I look forward to another great visit .
Hi there! I've watched almost all of your vids on your worldly travels. Hope the girls are doing well, hubby too. Stumbled upon this because we are retiring soon, and I may want to explore Panama. I am sold. Looking for real estate there right now.
If you're thinking of retiring in Panama mainly for the lower cost of living, look at the Midwest in USA first. Yes it's cold in winter, that's what Florida or Texas is for if you can afford to be a snowbird. But with the prices cited in this video, you can do as well or better in many smaller central US cities. Have heard the same about the South such as Tennessee and Arkansas.
Thanks for the feedback. There are many things to consider as well. Like community, friends, family etc.... Sometimes moving abroad sounds nice but it’s always best to go and scout it out for a few months to really get a feel for what you’re getting into.
@Amber Touch Good point! That' may be true for younger folks. In the Midwest where I live you can add Medicare Advantage to your Part B Medicare ($144/mo.) with zero monthly charge (for an HMO). I recently had a $19,000+ hospital bill at a university hospital with first class care, and Medicare paid all but $700. However you're right about cell phone number and house calls. I've heard Panama City has excellent health care with a number of US trained doctors and that health care in David is also adequate for most needs. I guess it depends on the state of your health and the level of care you might need.
Looks like a very beautiful spot but also great to read other experiences. I am a kiwi and our smaller towns have free drs visits and only pay for prescribed medication. Operations can sometimes be free if you are willing to wait or pay private medical centers to have it at an earlier date. These are the smaller communities until you get to the city then prices go up like everything else.
Boquete is only one place to consider in Panama. Make sure and travel around to see other towns and community's as well. Boquete, while being cheaper to live in than most places in the US, has gotten much more expensive. There are area's cheaper if price is an issue for housing and transportation etc. Also, I see many video's that describe community's as if you are on permanent vacation. Most retiree's don't live like this. At least none that I know. You can live any where in Panama you wish and when you want to go on vacation you can visit this hotel for example. No where in Panama is far away really and buses are cheap to get there. It is important not to invest in real estate right away. Most new Xpats don't stay in Panama long. No more than a year or so and then they decide that Panama is not for them. Panama is a nice place to live but it is a different culture and most US Xpats cannot assimilate or adjust well enough to stay here permanently. Its a short-term gig in other words. Many retiree's in the US cannot retire in the US because it is just too expensive. With proper planning and the right information you can live in Panama on your social security check. I would say that probably Boquete is not cheap enough to do this. However, Las Tablas or Chitre or Santiago could be an option. Something to think about at least for those that need to live on a small fixed income.
Boquete seems to be the Lake Chapala of Panama. Great in the beginning but supply and demand forces the prices rapidly skyward. Its not just the prices either. The whole attitude of the place changes to one of a constant tug of war with money. That's the wonder of many 3rd world places without external 1st world influences. There's a relaxed give and take with money. Its really a beautiful thing. I'm not advocating socialism by any means but when we really scrape and claw for each penny it wears us out. Also once the walking ATM's arrive (us) many locals view us as ripe for the picking after a while. In a place where you are not so common this just doesn't seem to happen nearly as much. People are not in the ripoff frame of mind, rather a neighborly mindset of relaxed trust. That's a wonderful environment to live in. Of course a valid reason to go to a place like Boquete or Chapala is the abundance of English. So maybe one can consider it a language surcharge. For those that don't speak any Spanish and don't want to learn this is a necessary requirement. Also if you don't mingle with locals easily you want to be around other expats.
If you need to be around other Xpats or English speakers all the time you might as well not come to Panama to live. You will be miserable. Even in Boquete there are just not that many Xpats. Try living there for a few months. Just find a short term rental and see if you can adjust to the lifestyle. If you like it then try living there for 6 months. If you can't adjust you can easily move to a different community or just move back to the US. Honestly, most US Xpats cannot make it and end up moving back to the US. That's just the reality. There are many retiree's that cannot afford to live in the US now without working to supplement their inadequate income's. So, Panama offers a possible solution because the cost of living is much lower. But, the biggest issue remains that the culture and language is very different and Americans are just not very adaptable. Too bad.
Been there done that. One can live live in the middle of America for less than many of these third world world countries. I just moved back after a decade in several Asian countries both third world and first. My cost of living and quality of life is better in middle America although quality of life in Japan was good. I also have good health insurance though. If you want to live abroad look at Portugal, Ireland or Eastern Europe. Avoid the third world or “developing” for the easily offended. There are a lot of variables, what you spend money on, exchange rates, do you have health insurance, do you plan to drive etc... I lived on $2500 a month in Tokyo Japan after the dollar appreciation the past few years. That’s right, one of the most expensive places in the world. It depends on what you spend money on.
I heard Portugal is doing many incentives to bring people in. The cost of living there is fantastic as well. I would have to agree with Eastern Europe though. You get best of both worlds....and the food is so good!
Outstanding video Chantal. You don't need my advice, BUT if you started a whole sub-area of videos about retiring to the areas you visit (both in Central America and Europe), I think that would add a whole new audience for your videos and send your subs through the roof. You're honest and thoughtful, and that makes a difference.
Thanks! That’s a great idea. I could have just done one like this in Valladolid Mexico since I met a bunch of people retired there. I have a video coming up soon on Nicaragua similar where I interviewed many different expats there. 👍👍
Most people that take the plunge and move to another country will return within a few years. The culture shock and language are the top two reasons. And even if they move in an expat community, most do not last. I would never purchase anything that I cannot take with me unless I have lived in a place for at least a few years.
I am retired in Malaga, Costa Del Sol, Spain. I would choose Boquete if it wasn´t for the good life here in Spain. It sounds like the same price level as here but I believe we have more sunny weather here🙂.
@@GrowingUpWithoutBorders I think he's enjoying his time down there. I've heard him mention that when a person becomes a naturalized citizen (or whatever it is called) that you receive all kinds of discounts on airlines, etc.
Boquete is lovely. The people are so nice but I've been told, "We like Americans, but enough Americans!" Americans have changed it dramatically, higher prices, gated communities with locals as workers not friends, overpopulation and over building of a magical place... I was sorry to see it being promoted even more here.
@sherry hodges Be careful of Portugal, there is a video of a couple who built a beautiful home, and the town council had it torn down, for no apparent reason, as they had all of the permits required. Now, this couple have lost everything, they were given very little time to exit taking their belongings that the bulldozer/wrecking ball was there destroying the home they had built for their retirement in Portugal. To this day they have no idea why they were targeted, similar homes in the area were untouched. Here is another article(s) about owning in Portugal you'll find interesting. Do extensive research before deciding to move to Portugal. www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/10810941/British-expats-in-Portugal-face-losing-homes.html www.expatica.com/pt/ad-ministry-ruling-means-british-couples-island-home-must-be-demolished/
Bought a new house in Santiago, capital of Veraguas Province, in 2003. Not much to do, except my spouse is from the nearby town of La Colorada where I enjoy helping grounding corn for empanadas, tamales, and bollos.
Panama is a vast and diverse country however this one town of Boquete is all that is talked about. I can't imagine traveling to a foreign country to retire only to be surrounded by the people I just left. Boquete has become south Florida
When we were there it didn't feel like that at all but there are probably many who have chosen Boquete as the place to retire. I'm not so sure people leave to escape the people around but more so to have a cheaper and better quality of life.
The weather in Boquete is the key point in this topic. Basically you don't need AC to feel comfortable. People from Europe had being living in this area for more than 50 years, most of them are the owners of the coffee business in this region. The healthcare it also a big deal because if you fly to Panama City to get health care you will realize that most of the Specialist in mayor medical field were educated in USA, therefore they speaks English fluently. Beside from Panama to Florida takes less than 4 hours and you get 25% discounts for retirees. I always recommend to visit first , do not have any commitment with anybody and then make a decision. Anything is going to be the same as you used to be. Greetings
@@dorianpasco4964 I understand, it's a very nice place. I'm retired Air Force I was stationed here in 1988-1993 after living in England and Germany. I wanted to retire here and immerse myself in the culture, music, language, people of Panama. I couldn't do that if I was lived in a western style sanctuary. I'm a ten-minute walk from the train station, three supermarkets, there is a great veterans office in Hospital North and people think I'm Panamanian if I keep my mouth closed. I blend right in. This country offers a variety of different lifestyles and living options it comes down to your wants and needs
Enjoyed your video. Panama looks like a good idea of a place where I could retire. I am disabled so that is a big concern. Sounds like the medical help may be good?? I have limited mobility. Would Panama be a place I could live? Boquete??
I just paid $28 for meds I can buy in the US for less the $2. Meds in Panama ARE NOT CHEAP!!! I get my meds on my annual trips to the US and bring them in.
Yes! Having my scrips filled here for the first time was a shocker! I made the pharmacist write the prices down because I thought I didn’t hear correctly! Meds are much much cheaper in the US, even with my Panama jubilado descuento!
There are plenty of places around the area (and Panama in general) where you could retire with the native Panamanians and not live in Gringo Land. (which is what I would do). I've read that people who retire there, being elderly are not rowdy loud Americans, are respectful of the culture and are welcomed by the Panamanians for the money they bring to the community.
@@marilynnarnold811 That would make a lot of sense as when you think about it the people moving there want to probably do the same thing, leave the US and all that goes with it!
@Larry Stratmann what are averave prooerty prices for a 2 bedroom house? Taxes? Can one own a gun? And if I would move to Panama, I have a horse to bring- boarding- can I get an acre inexpensively?
Thank you for sharing your Boquete experience. Lots of pros and cons in the comments. We are thinking of retiring in a few years. Money aside, and given your extensive travel experience, what one place would you think about living with your beautiful family?
Boquete is one of many towns in called gringo town. If you're not well and your health is not very good the medical service is not very good. There's several other places in South America to visit before you decide.
Hi there, I really enjoy your family travel videos. In all your travels do you have any recommendations for people looking to be expats with young kids? I would really like the children to learn a second language. Thanks again for the great videos.
I often look on Facebook for homeschooling groups. Often times these are expats living there so a great spot to connect with other families. Then there’s always expat groups on FB too. You can try there to start.
Great video! This is the second one I've watched from your channel. Both have been very informative. One thing I wonder about the special care and "perks" from the government shown towards foreigners.......have you seen any indication that the locals are resentful over this? I've seen this happen in the USA when our government has doled out privileges to non citizens.
Boquete reminds me of Baguio City Philippines where my wife is from. We have a house in Baguio but she works as a nurse practitioner here in the USA so it may be better if we take a look at Boquete
Hi! I have been researching all kinds of feedback re: expats in Panama. I read that there is a List of jobs that you cannot do there. I think you are not allowed to be paid to work as a nurse unless you are a national or married to one. But I am not sure. It is important enough to mentiom that you look into it. This is a wonderful, informative video. It is also great marketing to visit and stay at this hotel.
I like the interview but it sounds to one sided. He sounds like a sales person with a personal investment in that area. I would prefer an interview with someone who can give you the cons and pros. This will help in making a more informative decision. Still a great video though
Why no closed captions on this video?, what I'm trying to relay is that my daughter is deaf and many videos etc. Don't have them but we like your channel and would love it if you had closed captions for the deaf and hearing impaired.
Im here in Thailand. The background looks like here ! Thinking about relocating maybe to there. I like nature but access to all necessities fairly quickly but prefer less people. I like quietness is that possible there while safe?
Thank you for making this video! How about the laws, guilty into proven wrong? I need facts. Many Americans end up back home, I wonder about that and makes me nervous.
How about specifics on cost of living. The practical aspects of rent, utilities etc. What's it cost per month to live there? What are visa requirements for Americans? How much is health insurance? What does it cost to rent or buy a scooter or motorbike? How much per night at his hotel? thanks
@@marydavis7978 If they have the info handy, there is nothing wrong with asking for it. They are making a recommendation, so back it up with facts. If you don't want questions, don't post. Snotty woman
The cheapest health insurance I could find was around $350 a month (single coverage). But my first doctor visit was $25, and my first dental cleaning was $40. I believe you can stay in Panama for up to six months with your valid US passport. I hired a reputable law firm here (Kraemer & Kraemer) to help me with all that. I paid about $2,000 to get my Pensionada Visa. Rent of course depends on where you live, but I would choose San Francisco or El Cangrejo neighborhoods as the safest, most affordable options . Utilities maybe $75 electric, $25 phone and $50 cable ( includes ten HBO channels). Hulu is still not available in Panama (as of Dec 2022); but I cancelled NetFlix and kept Amazon Prime and HBO Max.
Unfortunately prices are shooting up because of the influx of outside money. There is also a different price for locals verses outsiders. Helps people relocate code for $$$$
Thank you, Chantal, that was really good! Before two days ago I had never heard of Boquete, then read Mary's story in International Living, an American expat retiree from Massachusetts, and she loves it absolutely loves it there. I can see why. Thanks!
I'm about to record another video with a local who's been living there for years. I'm excited to see everything she has to say since she provides tours to people looking to retire there.
Can you live there without a car, and having amenities and medical services in one's neighborhood? I thought Panama was more expensive than say Guatemala. Does the hotel have an elevator?
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I stayed in Boquete gardens boutique and loved every minute of it. We went up to the coffee plantation at the top of the hill and saw so many beautiful hummingbirds. The weather is lovely and if you put a stick in the ground, I swear a flower will grow out of it! So many more things to see, I hope to go back!
I just went to Boquete, Panama. Its so beautiful. I love it.
I hope this video brought back some nice memories. If not, here a link to the tour we did of the town. ruclips.net/video/GXy-TFY-nNg/видео.html
@Larry Stratmann Bocas Del Toro, Anton Valley, Panama City is still very nice though, my favorite Latin American City.
Nice Mr govid, wru from?
@@thomsonthadathil8484 Los Angeles, CA
How did you fly there? Which airline because I've tried several to discover no flights? What's up with that?
Lived in Costa Rica and Nicaragua 25 years. Thinking of Panama now
Ho Dave,, very interesting, and can you please share... Which Is the best Place in your opinion? Thank you so much!!!!
I LIVED 8 YEARS IN NICARAGUA, 4 YEARS IN PANAMA, AND IN MY 18TH YEAR IN COSTA RICA. WEST COAST OF NICARAGUA HAS BEST BEACH WEATHER. 6 MONTHS OF BLUE SKIES, BUT VERY HOT. NICARAGUA IS ALSO THE CHEAPEST TO LIVE IN. PANAMA IS BY FAR THE BEST VALUE FOR MONEY. FIRST WORLD LIVING AT THIRD WORLD PRICES. COSTA RICA IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL OF THE THREE COUNTRIES WITH BEACHES, JUNGLES, MOUNTAINS, CITIES AND WILDLIFE ALL IN A STONES THROW FROM WHERE EVER YOU ARE, BUT IT IS ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE OF THE THREE COUNTRIES. COSTA RICA IS NOT GOOD VALUE FOR MONEY WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO PANAMA AND NICARAGUA. IN MY OPINION PANAMA AND NICARAGUA ARE SAFER THAN COSTA RICA AS WELL. ALL THREE COUNTRIES ARE LAID BACK AND HAVE VERY RELAXED LIFESTYLES. IT RAINS MUCH LESS IN NICARAGUA THAN IT DOES IN PANAMA AND COSTA RICA. NICARAGUA HAS CLOUDLESS BLUE SKIES FOR 6 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, BUT IT IS ALSO THE HOTTEST OF THE THREE COUNTRIES. IN PANAMA AND COSTA RICA IT RAINS HEAVILY FOR 8 TO 9 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. YOU WILL BE VERY LUCKY TO SEE THE SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. COSTA RICA HAS THE COOLEST CLIMATE OF THE THREE. I RECOMMEND SPENDING A FEW MONTHS IN EACH COUNTRY BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DECISION IN WICH OF THE THREE COUNTRIES YOU WANT TO LIVE IN.
@@victorcosta9590 interesting... thank you!!
I've been in Costa Rica for 11 years, and considered moving to Panama. Decided to stay in Costa Rica.
@@victorcosta9590 I've visited Boquete numerous times. A nice place to visit, but I would not live there. If I were to move to Panama it would be to Volcan.
Loved the insight on Boquete, Panama for a retirement plan! Really eye-opening and tempting.
I’m planning my move to Boquete, Panama. It’s just perfect!
Thank you for the information. My husband and I have talked about retiring to Panama. Knowing this city is retirement friendly is even better.
There's a really nice expat community there as well.
Sounds like some folks here need to travel outside of the United States. Over the past three decades, many Latin American countries have exceeded health care services provided in many U.S. cities. Also, many cities in Asia are actually more developed than many cities in the U.S. in terms of internet connectivity, health care, and infrastructure.
Just a side note, "Third World" is a phrase frequently used to describe a developing nation. Despite its current usage, the phrase emerged during the Cold War to identify countries whose views did not align with NATO and capitalism or the Soviet Union and communism. The First World described countries whose views aligned with NATO and capitalism and the Second World referred to countries that supported communism and the Soviet Union.
@Soncelia Byrd Only if you make it that way.
So why do people race to come to America and not some of these other countries that you say are far more advanced?
@@chattingwithu - The United States has a lot going for itself. The ease of entry into commerce, the wide open spaces, the dream of a better life, etc. In the history of the world, it is probably the most progressive. Yet, as the world is slowly seeing, there are also many pitfalls and societal inequalities just like everywhere else - it has it good and bad sides. Having said that, there are many countries out there that have taken some of that good example and made it better. The beauty of travel is being able to experience those differences and realizing no one country is perfect but you may find one perfect for you.
@@avid580 America is by far the most inclusive country in all the world - we just prefer people coming in through the front door- legally! But we welcome all races colors n creeds!
@@chattingwithu - Sure, that's agreeable. But no one country is perfect so there is always room for improvement. Don't discount the progress made in other countries though. I encourage you to see what else is out there!
Thank you.Tim is excellent promotor.I ŵould patronize his business.Great job!
Yeah he's really good a promoting Boquete. Great guy!
Just back from Boquete. The coffee is off the charts!!!
Those stunning highlands in Panama. The view of Volcano Baru leave you stunned.
Emilio, like I said up, the snakes, toads, scorpions the size of Buicks and spiders the size of your hands all over. Se me encuera el chino, digo, se me enchina el cuero.
Go to Mexico. There are so many different places to live that are affordable. Lake Chapala is a great retirement place to live but you must be careful to choose areas that aren’t overpriced, great weather all year round, even in rainy season rains late day/evening or overnight thunderstorms. You have everything you need there...Heath care is great! I recently had surgery so I know. Why live so far from the USA if you are from there vs. South or Central America?
Once you need a flight, I don't think the distance matters very much, whether it is 3000 miles or 6000. Problem with all the Americas really, south of Canada, is poverty and crime, and all those police and military forces mentioned in the video are sadly there for a reason in Panama, and in Mexico no doubt. Then again, there will be some give and takes between all of these countries and locations, not to mention that for retirees their arthritis and bladder are more likely to bother you than your geographical coordinates :)
@Lion King I heard South Africa is so dangerous to white people
@Lion King Agreed lol. Wakanda!
@@HectorGarcia-nb2ld Wow. Think about how all those Black people felt all those years in South Africa living under Apartheid.Try 60 or so years of that....and you aren't even living there just looking from afar.
Fuck Wakanda!
I’m super excited to retire there! I can’t wait! I will be contacting you! Terrific video
Thank you for this great interview. I really appreciate the really pretty shots of the beauty of the area.
Glad you liked it. Let us know if you have any questions.
. thanks for the interview, we are traveling to Panama and Boquete in April and this is great information.
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If you're looking to relocate and retire in Panama. We highly recommend booking a relocation tour. Here's a link to learn more growingupwithoutborders.com/Panamarelocation
We are thinking to move there, but need to study more.
Any update on if still worth to move to Boquete and affordability?
@@normagertz9055 I'm about to publish a new video I did with a lady who helps people relocate to Panama. She's a great resource if you have any questions.
Wow, that town looks beautiful
Yes...I know many people really like it.
Boquete has been active for decades. Mexico also has a good deal for health care in the East Mexico expat region. After two years you can sign up for their health care system. It isn't uniformly good around the country, but in the East Mexican Expat area they cater to expats and the health clinics are better. Expats actually do help support improvements and English is widespread. Groceries have more diverse items..etc.
I have been to Boquete & it is nice.
Very good information. Thank you for sharing.
Great video. Good information. We visited back in October/November of 2018. Want to move there. Lots of rain but that’s fine. Loved the cool temperatures, the mountains and just about everything. It’s not for everyone though, there are some downsides but in my opinion well worth it.
The rain. And the tap water you can|t drink. Something is wrong.
October/November is part of the rainy season. He says there are lots of climates surrounding him. Were you in a particularly rainy part? He seems to say that where he is located is not all that rainy, but farther up the mountain is.
God Bless The Animal Rescue Programs.
That safety plan is great! We love it! We look forward to meeting him. Thank you so much for sharing and stay blessed! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Great! He'll help you out!
Interesting interview! We decided to settle in Bocas though- wanted those Caribbean views... 😍
How's the cost of living in Bocas?
@@julialaw6471 Compared to what? Compared to Los Angeles, California where we moved from, GREAT! :)
I absolutely enjoy Boquete in Chiriqui! I had the opportunity to visit there in December. The town is beautiful. It’s definitely booming. I felt safe even at night times. The people are friendly overall. I definitely am considering investing in a property in Chiriqui/Boquete.
That's awesome! If you need help, I'd reach out to Jackie. Here's the link to her company. She helps people relocate here. growingupwithoutborders.com/Panamarelocation
We moved from upstate NY (Lake Placid) to US Virgin Islands in 2009. I planned to work towards retirement and remain here. As we get closer to retirement we began considering cost of living and quality of life. We love the quality of life but cost of living is very high here. Moving to the islands required a paradigm change which we managed nicely. We are now considering Panama and the Azuero peninsula, Boquete, Chitre, Las Tables, and Pedasi in particular. We have friends that moved there and love it. Your video is most helpful in confirming what we have been told. Thank you for your video and the information and beautiful views it provided.
Hi Jeff, that's great. If you already did the move once, I'm sure you'll be just fine. Are there other countries you're considering? I'm curious since many are choosing Portugal but this might be more so the Europeans.
I will visit Boquete! 🌿🌹
Great video and very good information.
Thanks. I hope you enjoy your visit to Boquete.
Thank you, this was really nice information.
Great video, very well done. Great information. I be going to a small place outside Las Tablas but I've not been to the David area...yet.
You are absolutely gorgeous and I really enjoyed this video. My best friend lives in Panama city and we spent a week traveling around. I so much love Panama, people, food, weather, culture, beautiful mountains and great beaches. I look forward to another great visit .
Very good interview with Tim. I'm looking for a place to retire, so I just added Boquete to my list to visit.
Make sure to check out Portugal and Eastern Europe too. I have an other interview I need to get up about retiring in Thailand.
25% discount on airlines is amazing! That's an awesome benefit.
For sure!
Hi there! I've watched almost all of your vids on your worldly travels. Hope the girls are doing well, hubby too. Stumbled upon this because we are retiring soon, and I may want to explore Panama. I am sold. Looking for real estate there right now.
Rent first! Definitely, rent for at least 6 months. You'll be glad you did.
The place is seems to be blue and green colour looking so nice retired persons like it and so nice weather
Thank you for all the info. Does sound like a wonderful place.
Thanks great information. Can't wait to see boquete
Great! I'm so glad it was helpful!
Thank you SO MUCh for this video! Great info... and we love following your family.
Great! We’re so happy you’re enjoying all our videos!
If you're thinking of retiring in Panama mainly for the lower cost of living, look at the Midwest in USA first. Yes it's cold in winter, that's what Florida or Texas is for if you can afford to be a snowbird. But with the prices cited in this video, you can do as well or better in many smaller central US cities. Have heard the same about the South such as Tennessee and Arkansas.
Thanks for the feedback. There are many things to consider as well. Like community, friends, family etc.... Sometimes moving abroad sounds nice but it’s always best to go and scout it out for a few months to really get a feel for what you’re getting into.
@Amber Touch Good point! That' may be true for younger folks. In the Midwest where I live you can add Medicare Advantage to your Part B Medicare ($144/mo.) with zero monthly charge (for an HMO). I recently had a $19,000+ hospital bill at a university hospital with first class care, and Medicare paid all but $700. However you're right about cell phone number and house calls. I've heard Panama City has excellent health care with a number of US trained doctors and that health care in David is also adequate for most needs. I guess it depends on the state of your health and the level of care you might need.
The food in the U.S. is killing us!
Unfortunately middle America is filled with gun toting MAGA maniacs……I’ll pass
Looks like a very beautiful spot but also great to read other experiences. I am a kiwi and our smaller towns have free drs visits and only pay for prescribed medication. Operations can sometimes be free if you are willing to wait or pay private medical centers to have it at an earlier date. These are the smaller communities until you get to the city then prices go up like everything else.
Boquete is only one place to consider in Panama. Make sure and travel around to see other towns and community's as well. Boquete, while being cheaper to live in than most places in the US, has gotten much more expensive. There are area's cheaper if price is an issue for housing and transportation etc. Also, I see many video's that describe community's as if you are on permanent vacation. Most retiree's don't live like this. At least none that I know. You can live any where in Panama you wish and when you want to go on vacation you can visit this hotel for example. No where in Panama is far away really and buses are cheap to get there. It is important not to invest in real estate right away. Most new Xpats don't stay in Panama long. No more than a year or so and then they decide that Panama is not for them. Panama is a nice place to live but it is a different culture and most US Xpats cannot assimilate or adjust well enough to stay here permanently. Its a short-term gig in other words. Many retiree's in the US cannot retire in the US because it is just too expensive. With proper planning and the right information you can live in Panama on your social security check. I would say that probably Boquete is not cheap enough to do this. However, Las Tablas or Chitre or Santiago could be an option. Something to think about at least for those that need to live on a small fixed income.
Anyplace on your cheaper list as beautiful and as close to national parks as Boquette?
Boquete seems to be the Lake Chapala of Panama. Great in the beginning but supply and demand forces the prices rapidly skyward. Its not just the prices either. The whole attitude of the place changes to one of a constant tug of war with money. That's the wonder of many 3rd world places without external 1st world influences. There's a relaxed give and take with money. Its really a beautiful thing. I'm not advocating socialism by any means but when we really scrape and claw for each penny it wears us out. Also once the walking ATM's arrive (us) many locals view us as ripe for the picking after a while. In a place where you are not so common this just doesn't seem to happen nearly as much. People are not in the ripoff frame of mind, rather a neighborly mindset of relaxed trust. That's a wonderful environment to live in. Of course a valid reason to go to a place like Boquete or Chapala is the abundance of English. So maybe one can consider it a language surcharge. For those that don't speak any Spanish and don't want to learn this is a necessary requirement. Also if you don't mingle with locals easily you want to be around other expats.
If you need to be around other Xpats or English speakers all the time you might as well not come to Panama to live. You will be miserable. Even in Boquete there are just not that many Xpats. Try living there for a few months. Just find a short term rental and see if you can adjust to the lifestyle. If you like it then try living there for 6 months. If you can't adjust you can easily move to a different community or just move back to the US. Honestly, most US Xpats cannot make it and end up moving back to the US. That's just the reality. There are many retiree's that cannot afford to live in the US now without working to supplement their inadequate income's. So, Panama offers a possible solution because the cost of living is much lower. But, the biggest issue remains that the culture and language is very different and Americans are just not very adaptable. Too bad.
@@glenh4971 I'm curious. Of the thousands of expats in Panama, how many do you know?
Why do you ask and what does your comment have to do with anything I said in my comment? @@MyClassAct
Loving it! Looking forward to get back there soon!! Talking about health insurance, what is a company you would recommend there please?
Been there done that. One can live live in the middle of America for less than many of these third world world countries. I just moved back after a decade in several Asian countries both third world and first. My cost of living and quality of life is better in middle America although quality of life in Japan was good. I also have good health insurance though. If you want to live abroad look at Portugal, Ireland or Eastern Europe. Avoid the third world or “developing” for the easily offended. There are a lot of variables, what you spend money on, exchange rates, do you have health insurance, do you plan to drive etc... I lived on $2500 a month in Tokyo Japan after the dollar appreciation the past few years. That’s right, one of the most expensive places in the world. It depends on what you spend money on.
I heard Portugal is doing many incentives to bring people in. The cost of living there is fantastic as well. I would have to agree with Eastern Europe though. You get best of both worlds....and the food is so good!
Outstanding video Chantal. You don't need my advice, BUT if you started a whole sub-area of videos about retiring to the areas you visit (both in Central America and Europe), I think that would add a whole new audience for your videos and send your subs through the roof. You're honest and thoughtful, and that makes a difference.
Thanks! That’s a great idea. I could have just done one like this in Valladolid Mexico since I met a bunch of people retired there.
I have a video coming up soon on Nicaragua similar where I interviewed many different expats there. 👍👍
Vids on retiring in the Caribbean islands with expats, would be interesting, also.
We are looking into retiring to Boquete. Loved this video. Nice.
Wonderful! I hope you get there to see for yourself if it's the right fit for you.
Most people that take the plunge and move to another country will return within a few years. The culture shock and language are the top two reasons. And even if they move in an expat community, most do not last. I would never purchase anything that I cannot take with me unless I have lived in a place for at least a few years.
Americans are some of the laziest in the world when it comes to learning languages.
I am retired in Malaga, Costa Del Sol, Spain. I would choose Boquete if it wasn´t for the good life here in Spain. It sounds like the same price level as here but I believe we have more sunny weather here🙂.
Thank you so much for this information !
yep, always get info from a business or someone selling their house
I already know one person living in Boquete. He's a retiree, single, living the care-free life. He's been down there about six months.
Great! I hope he's safe and sound over there.
@@GrowingUpWithoutBorders I think he's enjoying his time down there. I've heard him mention that when a person becomes a naturalized citizen (or whatever it is called) that you receive all kinds of discounts on airlines, etc.
I found out about Boquete several years ago. I have yet to go but it is in my top five bucket list.
Great! It’s definitely a place that many enjoy.
Nice I info... ! 🙏 🙋♂️...
Thank you Very Much... 👍
Boquete is lovely. The people are so nice but I've been told, "We like Americans, but enough Americans!" Americans have changed it dramatically, higher prices, gated communities with locals as workers not friends, overpopulation and over building of a magical place... I was sorry to see it being promoted even more here.
@sherry hodges Yes, supermarket food here is now cheaper than the Boquete store.
@sherry hodges I'm so jealous you have all these options! No dinero aqui! Best of luck!
@sherry hodges Be careful of Portugal, there is a video of a couple who built a beautiful home, and the town council had it torn down, for no apparent reason, as they had all of the permits required. Now, this couple have lost everything, they were given very little time to exit taking their belongings that the bulldozer/wrecking ball was there destroying the home they had built for their retirement in Portugal. To this day they have no idea why they were targeted, similar homes in the area were untouched. Here is another article(s) about owning in Portugal you'll find interesting. Do extensive research before deciding to move to Portugal.
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/10810941/British-expats-in-Portugal-face-losing-homes.html
www.expatica.com/pt/ad-ministry-ruling-means-british-couples-island-home-must-be-demolished/
I visited Boquetta. It was so beautiful!
Indeed it is!
Are ya going to drink that coffee!!!?? I'd love to live there. Sounds like heaven.
Coffee was great! It’s a really nice place to visit and see.
Lol I was thinking the same thing
Panama has like the best coffee in the world.
Bought a new house in Santiago, capital of Veraguas Province, in 2003. Not much to do, except my spouse is from the nearby town of La Colorada where I enjoy helping grounding corn for empanadas, tamales, and bollos.
After this Boquete is going to grow bigger.
nativtr two not with just 30K subscribers 😂
Nice video, thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks a lot for yours efforts
Panama is a vast and diverse country however this one town of Boquete is all that is talked about. I can't imagine traveling to a foreign country to retire only to be surrounded by the people I just left. Boquete has become south Florida
When we were there it didn't feel like that at all but there are probably many who have chosen Boquete as the place to retire. I'm not so sure people leave to escape the people around but more so to have a cheaper and better quality of life.
The weather in Boquete is the key point in this topic. Basically you don't need AC to feel comfortable. People from Europe had being living in this area for more than 50 years, most of them are the owners of the coffee business in this region. The healthcare it also a big deal because if you fly to Panama City to get health care you will realize that most of the Specialist in mayor medical field were educated in USA, therefore they speaks English fluently. Beside from Panama to Florida takes less than 4 hours and you get 25% discounts for retirees. I always recommend to visit first , do not have any commitment with anybody and then make a decision. Anything is going to be the same as you used to be. Greetings
@@dorianpasco4964 I understand, it's a very nice place. I'm retired Air Force I was stationed here in 1988-1993 after living in England and Germany. I wanted to retire here and immerse myself in the culture, music, language, people of Panama. I couldn't do that if I was lived in a western style sanctuary. I'm a ten-minute walk from the train station, three supermarkets, there is a great veterans office in Hospital North and people think I'm Panamanian if I keep my mouth closed. I blend right in. This country offers a variety of different lifestyles and living options it comes down to your wants and needs
Thank you very much for this video!! I am senior looking to be an "ex-pat" from CA. Time to move!!
Great! I’m working on a new video with more details around moving to Panama. You’ll have to keep an eye out for it.
Very good info....Will check out his Hotel....
well done, thanks!
Enjoyed your video. Panama looks like a good idea of a place where I could retire. I am disabled so that is a big concern. Sounds like the medical help may be good?? I have limited mobility. Would Panama be a place I could live? Boquete??
Great video, thanks! I'm hoping to retire to Central America within the next year.
All the best with your planning!
Thank you Good information.
Most welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
I just paid $28 for meds I can buy in the US for less the $2. Meds in Panama ARE NOT CHEAP!!! I get my meds on my annual trips to the US and bring them in.
@R V You don't get a choice is most cases, especially if you're older
@R V Disagreeing doesn't make cancer or vascular disease go away
R V you are clueless!
Yes! Having my scrips filled here for the first time was a shocker! I made the pharmacist write the prices down because I thought I didn’t hear correctly! Meds are much much cheaper in the US, even with my Panama jubilado descuento!
Thanks for the info 🇺🇸🌍
Most welcome!
Good video and information.
Great! Glad it was helpful for you.
This was awsome!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, so informative! I guess I have to go check it out. Thanks.
Love your videos. Do you know if the volcanoes are active?
Just what I want to do - move to central america to live with other Americans.
Been to Boquete. David is much better.
Volcan, on the other side of Baru is very laid back, with few Americans.
There are plenty of places around the area (and Panama in general) where you could retire with the native Panamanians and not live in Gringo Land. (which is what I would do). I've read that people who retire there, being elderly are not rowdy loud Americans, are respectful of the culture and are welcomed by the Panamanians for the money they bring to the community.
@@marilynnarnold811 That would make a lot of sense as when you think about it the people moving there want to probably do the same thing, leave the US and all that goes with it!
@Larry Stratmann what are averave prooerty prices for a 2 bedroom house? Taxes? Can one own a gun? And if I would move to Panama, I have a horse to bring- boarding- can I get an acre inexpensively?
Great information, thanks.
Most welcome.
The fact that they have to bring in truck loads of police and military to keep things save makes you wonder just a bit.
It's a major drug trafficking route, the national parks surrounding the town are huge and not patrolled.
@Truth Only SA country with a homicide rate as low as the US is Chile!
Truth and America is so free of crime right and bad behaviour
Christ why the bad hearted attitude .and negativity
As if America doesn't have constant unrest and tons of police with riot gear, big guns and big trucks?
@@marilynnarnold811 No, not really.
Good info!! But my wife would kill me if we don’t retire in New Zealand 🇳🇿😂 the place looked amazing 😉
I can’t wait to learn and see why she’d loves New Zealand. I have 2 cousins who moved there. I’ve heard only great things. 👍🙌
NZ is the BETTER choice.
I need to go now.
I lived in Boquete Panama for 3 years
Nice place, especially if you speak Spanish, or are over 50
Any of the local expats we met there were really happy with their move to Boquete.
So cute the birds over the guy head.
I liked the dogs barking.
🤣🤣
Great video but please get a decent microphone for your camera.
Thanks for the feedback. Yep, definitely a must have.
Thank you for sharing your Boquete experience. Lots of pros and cons in the comments. We are thinking of retiring in a few years. Money aside, and given your extensive travel experience, what one place would you think about living with your beautiful family?
Money aside it would be New Zealand and considering money it would possibly be Portugal or Spain simply because I love Europe.
@@GrowingUpWithoutBorders Awesome, thank you for your insight!
What is the name of the program for Seniors that gives you discounts?
Boquete is one of many towns in called gringo town. If you're not well and your health is not very good the medical service is not very good. There's several other places in South America to visit before you decide.
Hi there,
I really enjoy your family travel videos. In all your travels do you have any recommendations for people looking to be expats with young kids? I would really like the children to learn a second language. Thanks again for the great videos.
I often look on Facebook for homeschooling groups. Often times these are expats living there so a great spot to connect with other families.
Then there’s always expat groups on FB too. You can try there to start.
This guy is just a promotion for Boquuette. Don't rely on his words though he he sounds really good.
Yes! He loves Boquete! I know him personally, excellent person!
Great video! This is the second one I've watched from your channel. Both have been very informative. One thing I wonder about the special care and "perks" from the government shown towards foreigners.......have you seen any indication that the locals are resentful over this? I've seen this happen in the USA when our government has doled out privileges to non citizens.
I don’t think the locals mind. They probably appreciate them being there.
What is the COL range in USD per month there?
Boquete reminds me of Baguio City Philippines where my wife is from. We have a house in Baguio but she works as a nurse practitioner here in the USA so it may be better if we take a look at Boquete
Nice! I don’t know Baguio City but Boquete is closer if you needed to go back and forth.
Hi! I have been researching all kinds of feedback re: expats in Panama. I read that there is a List of jobs that you cannot do there. I think you are not allowed to be paid to work as a nurse unless you are a national or married to one. But I am not sure. It is important enough to mentiom that you look into it.
This is a wonderful, informative video. It is also great marketing to visit and stay at this hotel.
I like the interview but it sounds to one sided. He sounds like a sales person with a personal investment in that area. I would prefer an interview with someone who can give you the cons and pros. This will help in making a more informative decision. Still a great video though
Gus
Basically he is...
He has a hotel there from the
way I understood it...
Why no closed captions on this video?, what I'm trying to relay is that my daughter is deaf and many videos etc. Don't have them but we like your channel and would love it if you had closed captions for the deaf and hearing impaired.
Oh let me look into how we can make this happen. We would love for her to be able to follow along.
@@GrowingUpWithoutBorders Great!! Thank you so very much
Im here in Thailand. The background looks like here ! Thinking about relocating maybe to there. I like nature but access to all necessities fairly quickly but prefer less people. I like quietness is that possible there while safe?
Thank you for making this video!
How about the laws, guilty into proven wrong? I need facts. Many Americans end up back home, I wonder about that and makes me nervous.
Tim who I interviewed would probably know more about this. Would be worth asking him the question.
How about specifics on cost of living. The practical aspects of rent, utilities etc. What's it cost per month to live there? What are visa requirements for Americans? How much is health insurance? What does it cost to rent or buy a scooter or motorbike? How much per night at his hotel? thanks
Yes..I find all too often these videos are opinion based..need to throw in some facts
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Have you ever heard of research! Don't be afraid it want bite!😉😉😉😉
@@marydavis7978 If they have the info handy, there is nothing wrong with asking for it. They are making a recommendation, so back it up with facts. If you don't want questions, don't post. Snotty woman
The cheapest health insurance I could find was around $350 a month (single coverage). But my first doctor visit was $25, and my first dental cleaning was $40. I believe you can stay in Panama for up to six months with your valid US passport. I hired a reputable law firm here (Kraemer & Kraemer) to help me with all that. I paid about $2,000 to get my Pensionada Visa. Rent of course depends on where you live, but I would choose San Francisco or El Cangrejo neighborhoods as the safest, most affordable options . Utilities maybe $75 electric, $25 phone and $50 cable ( includes ten HBO channels). Hulu is still not available in Panama (as of Dec 2022); but I cancelled NetFlix and kept Amazon Prime and HBO Max.
Fantastic.
Yah!☺️
The crime rate, especially theft is off the charts. Their are not enough police and all the buildings have to cover windows with metal bars.
It was the same way when I lived in Miami!
Unfortunately prices are shooting up because of the influx of outside money. There is also a different price for locals verses outsiders. Helps people relocate code for $$$$
That's good to know.
Thank you, Chantal, that was really good! Before two days ago I had never heard of Boquete, then read Mary's story in International Living, an American expat retiree from Massachusetts, and she loves it absolutely loves it there. I can see why. Thanks!
I'm about to record another video with a local who's been living there for years. I'm excited to see everything she has to say since she provides tours to people looking to retire there.
I have visited Boquette a few years ago. Is there an artist co-op or shared space for artists to work? I love the area.
Given the state of affairs in north america, I may be takin a lil trip.
I don't blame you. If you can, I'd go and enjoy your time there.
Can you live there without a car, and having amenities and medical services in one's neighborhood? I thought Panama was more expensive than say Guatemala. Does the hotel have an elevator?
Awesome; do you have a part 2 and 3?
No we should do a follow up video. Great idea!