As someone who has visited more than half of the US and quite a few countries, friendly and not-so friendly, I'd say that the best way to avoid getting into trouble anywhere is to not act like you're special because you were initially a US citizen. Just be open-minded and always willing to learn the local customs and laws, without acting as if they should all be bent because (once again) you were born in the USA. While in the military, I always used to get compliments such as, "You don't act like an American." which I always took as one of the highest compliments I could receive from a foreign host.
These kids are entitled and just are upset because they had to hire Panama people and there business model crashed and burned. Like most so called influencers they only think what is important can be seen with their selfie stick while filming themselves. They just exploit their sponsors and followers who have no discernment.
I lived in Panama Five years I have 100 of stories just like their ten. One of my favorites was the day that most of the one way roads changed to the opposite direction, but none of the signs changed. Yes that really happened.
I am a Panamanian living in Florida. Father was in the military and I was born and raised in Panama. More than half my family lives there so I go back quite a bit. With that said, you are right. Those things do exist. The “gringo- price” has been in effect ever since the Torrijos - Jimmy Carter treaty. Southern Command (southcom) was established in Panama which was a strategic military hold to “monitor” central and South America. With that, the “gringo - price” came into full effect. Even though the treaty came to an end on 12/31/1999 the price gouging for Americans continues as there are still many Americans there and they continue to go there as there retirement destination from the states. All in all, I love my country and made sure I new every nook and cranny of Panama before I left to travel the world. I am sure you will absolutely fall in love with Panama. Enjoy!
First rules of foriegn travel......wear sun glasses, , keep your mouth shut , and dont expect them to cater to you, speak the language, Then you can enjoy !
I am panamenian. Almost everything you do not like about Panama is true. The thing about being guilty before a trial is not true. We just changed the judicial system. You go swiftly in front of a judge who will decide your fate. That is not being guilty before you prove you are inocent. They need to prove you are guilty.
@@MrAmhara ohhhh STOP!! please. I'm from Panama and I don't feel like she descrinating anybody. Beside most of the things she said are true. People in Pma always wanted to take advantage of the tourist by raising the price on everything. Now don't tell me you dont know that.
@@miar.4507 Only Panama though? You ever been to France or Italy? I haven't seen anybody trying to slip a bracelet on their wrist then ask for 20 dollars yet.
I live in panama and you have to be very careful! Although panama is amazing their are a lot of people Including “lawyers” who take advantage of Americans!! Especially “gringos”
@@alyssatorres5897 i saw the video Alyssa i am.a local born in Panama living in Boston on my next trip to Panama i would lime to visit Contadora Island and the Anton Village.
Thank you that is 100 percent true I lost everything beacuse my neibor filed a restraining order against me and I had 20 minets to get out my house the police forced me out and I was homless during the worst part of covid 19 and I lost my place cuse I had nowhere to go
My wife and I lived in Mexico for 4 years. It was exactly there what you are explaining for Panama. I'm looking forward to receiving the coffee I ordered from you nearly a month ago. But, I'm sure it will be delicious when I do.
Love your videos, it is amazing so many people will leave a nasty comment or act so ricious... Keep up the positive work and videos , My husband and I moved to Panama last November we did all the research and educated ourselves however ,like you know once your in it things come up and yes you live and learn that is part of life anywhere in world. We just rolled all the I've and learns off our shoulder and know we are just happy to be alive and healthy. We happened to be back home in US when everything hit and have yet been able to make it back, but we can't wait to be back as we bought our new home there. Keep it up you guys rock
I was in Panama on business back in the 70s and was offered a full time job by the Panamanian company that I was contracted with. They had Americans working there and they said it was an excellent company to work for and one of the reasons, besides good pay, is you did not need health insurance as the company took care of their employees no matter what had happened. Those days, Americans were not really liked, but once I told them who I worked for, their attitudes became very friendly. Also, the Americans told me it really was not a place they would raise their children. At that time, I had no children in the 7 years of marriage, but was now looking to start a family, so that was a big reason I did not take the job which was in aviation. It may all be different now. Hope it all works out for you two!
@@alsteeves2044 How so? I guess to each his own. I love it here. It's the best decision that I've ever made. They have fantastic live bands and the public transport here is fantastic. I do not need a car here (that way I avoid thousands in car related expenses and headaches). I'm also totally safe here even in the middle of the night or early in the morning when I come home from some great entertainment.
I had an idylic childhood in Panama 55 years ago in the Canal Zone as a military dependent. I guess it was pretty colonial in some ways, but for a kid it was just paradise.
Nice channel! Bienvenidos a Panama. I'm an American Expat living and working in Panama City. You are right that you need to double check all legal paperwork and it is tedious. When you start building the tiny homes, you will need to double check that the the quantity & quality the materials you order and the finishes on the contractor's work. In general, standards are different to what you are used to so you will need to be forceful and direct to make sure the jobs are done right. Don't feel bad for demanding what you are paying for. ALSO, there is recycling in Panama, its just not done publicly like trash collection or water. Grocery stores like Riba Smith and even private business have recycling, like at my office building, MMG Tower. If you drink beer, you can buy a case (literally a plastic case) of Panama or Balboa at local store (bodega/chinito) and when your done with 'em, you bring the case and the empty bottles back and you buy new beers minus the price of the case. Ask around about recycling but the best thing you can do is not use non-necessary plastic. Looking forward to the next videos! Abrazo.
I am Panamanian. I enjoyed your video. I lived in the states for many years. My wife and I decided to move a little further south. We are now living in Medellin Colombia. We had to relearn many things and be patient; especially at banks and the slow moving cashier checkout. Enjoy and keep us informed. Blessings!
Lk M I was born and grew up in South America. Speak fluent Spanish, it was the only country and home I ever knew, but I’m white and of European decent, and experienced every one of the things that these people don’t like about Panama. If you’re white, the vast majority will see and treat you as a gringo and outsider. It’s a way of life. If there is a bit more money to be made, why not. The only way to do well in Latino culture is to be vigilant and start thinking like they do. Negotiate your taxi fare before you leave. Then be generous with your tip and you’ll make friends for life. I love the Latino culture. The thing I miss most here in Canada.
Totally get it! It is very helpful to any one thinking of traveling or moving to Panama to have realistic expectations. Most are not expecting perfection but it's very helpful to hear about exactly what you two have experienced. Sure I know you are generally very positive and upbeat and I love that you share that and point out the wonderful culture and beautiful, kind, helpful people. It's a good really check to cover these 7 things in the one video, keeping it real, yet showing us things to be mindful and careful about. Great job!!!
In Peru I eventually came to the conclusion usually gringo prices aren't that bad. As an American who appreciates skill, I dont overpay unskilled taxis but usually happily give hardworking people like small family restaurants or craftsmen more than locals pay. Doctors or nurses I ALWAYS tip heavy. Over 10$ for a doctor who charged me $4 for a visit and knew his field.
As an American, living in South America since 1980, I have met a lot of dreamers who are clueless about life here. You are in a DIFFERENT WORLD. Most of these dreamers focus on nonsense, not on reality. And that is, How do you become a Legal Resident? And that will determine if you can Legally Work. Without this legal status you are just another illegal alien.
You are totally right you will never find a perfect place where things are always right. I have lived in 30 states out of the 50 and in each state I have found things that I don't like and in few of them I just could not live there. In Panama you need to use your savvy to get around and the country is currently going through some changes for the better I would say. The constitution is being revised to give the people more right to decide about the country's future and the well being of the population. Also, people in the country side are so different from the one's from the city. Keep in mind Panama's population is very diverse. There are people from every corner of the world in this small, but beautiful country.
Countries are like people. They all have their bad things, but some of those things you can put up with or even find endearing while others... not so much. But the good stuff, oh man, the good stuff can make up for so much not so good stuff.
Except that in every state you can do things online, by mail or on the phone including buying a home. Try buying a home in Panama and see how many attorneys, banks, notaries etc you’d have to stand in line for each document.
Suggest that you become more observational about the ways that the locals dress. Then begin to imitate their dress. For Her, nothing off the shoulder, lose the shorts, tie it back. For him, shave and a haircut are in order. While you will still stick out like a sore thumb as gringos and rubes, it will be a little less so. Consider, you are so awfully loud that you were "marked" immediately on your very first entry and the grand paid for a lot of Christmas presents. Lower your profile, improve your odds.
Right that's crazy it's nothing wrong to live in another country, but one with no organization, guidance, & workers lying to make it hard for you to take care of your business trying to get settled in moving there is a headache. I'll be back in the U.S @ least we got structure. They dont want Americans over there. They ripping off Americans... & she talking about she got anxiety & depression problems she needs to think about that...
@@monicadupree7928 I know it's never a good idea to lie but I'm tempted to ask when in less formal situations might it be easier just to say you're Canadian or if you're Irish American just say I'm Irish. I'd imagine there's bad feelings towards Americans due to the military invasion years ago. I heard a lot more people died than we were told. Not sure if that's true but I would rather not tell them where I'm from.
@@vitocorleone8323 Not at all,Sir...that is what you've heard.I'm Panamenian and for some reason this rumors go around(check Historical facts,🇺🇸 had help Panama to become how it is)so we a ever grateful.
One of the things electricity is very expensive comparing to US. $0.11 per kilowatt hour in Florida VS $0.16 per kilowatt hour in Panama. If you only use air conditioning at night , evening and when sleeping in an average Small two bedroom apartment your utility bills will be $200-$250+- per month . If you leave air conditioning turned on at all times and you cook everyday on LPG you're looking at $500-$600+. Monthly utility bill.
Welcome to Expat living. I really don't like that word, Expat, since it was always very derogatory. Any way. I live in the Philippines. I am surprised that Customs handles VISAS in Panama. Here it is the bureau of immigration. Paperwork is a top priority and must be perfectly completed in any transaction here. Drugs? In most of Southeast Asia, "Dada means death"! Dada means drugs of any kind which have not been prescribed! In the Philippines, if a person is caught with drugs, the person is usually not killed. He or she is put on prison and may come to trial in 3 or 4 years. And the years awaiting trial don't count as time served! Most of the time here, I can expect to pay the same price for things as any Filipino does. There are some exceptions when I know a Filipino and he can negotiate a price for me, but not in the super markets or major department stores. One thing I learned in almost any foreign country is that the attitude of the people is the the US is a wealthy country and all the people are as wealthy as the Rockefeller's or DJT. I have had people here tell me that so much stuff is free in the US. I have had to tell them that it isn't so. Filipinos want to go to US because salaries are big. I explain to them that so are expenses. My apartment here (foreigners in the Philippines are not permitted to own land here) costs 13,000₱ per month. That for many Filipinos is impossible. For me is less than one-half of what is paid in the US for something not even half as large as what I have here. But, they don't understand. That's not unusual for any one in Central America as well. But I have yet to find the people in the US as friendly and helpful as here and I have heard the same for many other countries. Yes, the laws here seem to change quickly and no one is informed. Selecting proper friends is a requirement. There is a criminal element everywhere in the world - no exceptions to that. I hope though that your time in Panama is mostly good and happy. Sad to learn that one is leaving. +Gregory
What they shoud have banned or tax was the plastic boottles I, and most people I know re-use our grocery plastic bags.....Its all mafia...the new bags are made of corn seulae...big business for monsanto
That happened after a whole bunch of plastic garbage washed upon the shore in Panama and the majority of it appeared to have come from the U.S.. When it washed up it almost looked dystopian. It was quite the clean-up effort. And it was most certainly unfair. So Panama will take a baby step to do its part and no longer use plastic bags for groceries.
LOL! And in the US, the CDC has found that recyclable bags carry the Covid 19 virus (among other pathogens), vs. plastic bags which are sterile. Banning shit isn't the answer. Knocking people over the head for littering, THAT'S the answer.
Great video! I lived in the South Pacific coast of Costa Rica for 4 years and you are spot on. I loved living there but definitely got tired of some things. Mainly the petty crime and being charged more at every turn.
I was in Panama for two years in the military. I was a bus driver for Fort Gulic and I really loved the place. I only got to see mostly military places because I was not and adventurer and stayed close to Fort Gulic. I did go into Colon several time to see a floor show and have a few dirnks but that was all. I got to drive troupes to differenty Air Ports and drive to Panama City etc. But all i can say is i loved the place and the weather. The food i had was better than my mother home cooking. Most of the meals I ate was prepaired by millitary cooks on the base. I also got to see Fort Sand Loranzo, I'm sure I have missed spelled it because I could never spell. The birds are beautiful , they are all colors. Have a good time but I'm staying in the United States, I love it to.
I lived at Ft Clayton off the Mira Flores Locks from 95-98. My daughter was born at Patilia hospital in Panama City. We loved it so much we didn’t want to move home to the states. Now I’m 48, my BFF and I want to go back to visit and possibly buy land/property there. Your videos make me homesick for it so much! One day we will get down there and hopefully get to meet y’all! Been here since the beginning of your journey and it’s just so cool watching you guys make your homestead there. The envy is Huge 😂😂😂 much love and blessings guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Many of these things are similar in Mexico. During my 25 years here they have been changing quite much though and my advantage is that I have been a Mexican for over 12 years now. Living in a climate like yours at the Caribbean for 18 now and planning on a homestead
The "gringo price" you mention is actually a "foreigner price" which I as a Panamanian oppose and have talked against it many times with many fellow-people, most of them taxi drivers. But as you pointed-out, one good thing we Panamanians have is that we are reasonable enough to back down and charge a fair price when confronted with saavy foreigners like you two.
Welcome to Panama. I moved in August 2019 and live in the mountains. I would not have been able to survive the heat, humidity and mosquitoes of the rest of Panama for very long. But keep in mind, you are a guest here. There will be situations where you will be taken advantage of because they will see you as a "rich American". Take it in stride or go elsewhere. IMO, it's a mild annoyance, no worse than the heat. If you have not already, LEARN SPANISH. A whole new world opens up to you here if you can speak the language. Best wishes and Happy Holidays. Dios te bendiga.
there are no chicas, or entertainment what so ever in the mountains and power outages are way to frequent! Security is an issue and i could see myself only living in the capital in a high rise with tight security. The government of Panama failed miserably in all layers. Panama is now a failed state and your security is no longer guaranteed. However it is paradise for crime lords because everything and everybody is for sale. Panama is one of these countries that cornered themselves in an economic chaos and it has no way out because the population lacks education / discipline and ethics. People living in the countryside of latin america need most likely an AK 47 for personal protection.
Few years ago many Americans went to Panamá seeking a better life. Today they are running to hell out. Even the Venezuelans who were escaping the Maduro”s regime are getting out the country. This country is no good it’s a disastrous mess.
One of the things I disliked when I went to Panama was the trash everywhere, there was trash along the roads, on the beaches etc... Panama isn't even a poor country and many poorer countries are cleaner. I wonder if they addressed this problem since 2017-2018.
I think other healthy oils probably work as well as cbd oil. People just don't get enough of it. Olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil. They all help relieve anxiety and give a good mood. About your bus, you could give it away and build a shed. I know you probably like to sit in it and remember where you've been in it though. Also, be generous with your gringo prices. It will come back to you some other way. The locals are not living the life you are.
Normally I really enjoy your vlogs. I have lived my life around the world as an ex-pat (both as a child and adult). One thing that was clear was that your experience demonstrates that those of us from the US have a certain expectation of treatment and engagement with a government body. It's just different outside of the US. Maybe what this vlog revealed was that you are breaking your own expectations as much as embracing the local community. Certainly, it can be frightening at times when you are in cultures that don't speak your language and your expectations are getting challenged if not shattered. I remember one time in India, the driver was going in the opposite direction of traffic at a high speed. He turned to me and just said to look down at my feet and he will take care of the rest. The experience of others is so worth it. I'm glad you are in Panama. Enjoy and good health.
This is really important to understand. When moving to another country from America. As Americans we have certain expectations and if we wanted things to be the American way we need to stay in America. With every country there are pros and cons. This is good to hear anyway. As I am getting to closer to retirement. Panama is on my list of places to retire.
Everything they said is basically correct. As a US citizen of Panamanian decent, who grew up in the country, I can tell you that all things considered it is still by far one of the best places to live outside of the US. The reason many US citizens move to Panama is simple; your money goes further. Where else can you buy a bay front condo in the city for under 300K? Where else can you have a first class seafood or steak dinner for under $15? Where else, other than Switzerland, can you live in a banking paradise? The fact is that all things considered, it is still by far one of the best places to live outside the US. As far as having your atty on speed dial, unlikely. The US Embassy in Panama does an outstanding job providing assistance to US citizens just for the asking.
Having had a house with three other surf guys some years ago in Tamarindo, CR..if you do not speak the language or willing to learn it..the problems are just magnified..and not worth the experience. Many people ex pats for example who retire in Panama or CR eventually return to the States due to medical related issues. Try USVI or BVI..easy, in-expensive if a local..easy to get there..water much cleaner and really clear...and if one doesn't like it..it is just 2 hours back to Fort Lauderdale or Orlando (r/t about $150. per person). Yes, CR or Panama has some nice attributes..but, the bureaucracy and language barriers make it a challenge sometimes
Not to be negative Nancy, but very concerned for you two as I've watched you for a very long time...I hope in the future you don't regret living in a country such as Panama. Things could go badly very fast from the sounds of it. Don't be naive thinking it can't happen to you. Anyone could make anything up to accuse you of through jealousy, etc they see you as "rich American gringos!" Also, another huge thing that keeps crossing my mind is the fact that I am of social security age and pray you are setting away money for your future. You are not working and putting into social security in the US. You may need to go back to live there one day if things fail and you will be financially in trouble when too old to work. Everything may be cheap & beautiful there now, but older age catches up very fast, before you realize it. Please just be sure you are planning for your future. My 36 year work career happened and ended in the blink of an eye. I am thankful to have lived in this great, free country, and living pretty well set, unlike others I know who moved to Canada for years & ended up coming back here and now are struggling because they did poor planning and are living next to poverty level. Just trying to give you kids another view of what life could be down the road if you don't plan properly for your future! Then again, you may end up very wealthy. ...I hope so!! Love you guys! Please be vigilant!
I think you might be being a little bit of a Negative Nancy and Debbie Downer or Pessimist Pete or whatever. :P lol The importance is not to flaunt your wealth, no matter where you go. Whether it be the modest parts of Panama, North Carolina, Alabama or Louisiana. After they're down there for a year they can look into becoming dual citizens of Panama. As such they would be eligible for Panama's Universal Healthcare/Social Security. In the U.S., Muslims are accused of being "terrorists" just for being Muslim and people are beaten to a pulp just for Driving While Black. I know "gringos" who have retired in Panama for that reason. I know a gentleman from Oklahoma who lost his job in the U.S. and therefore his health coverage. Moving to Panama literally saved his life! Other folks who lost _everything_ due to being abandoned by the U.S. after hurricanes Katrina, Sandy or Maria. They had to start from scratch in Panama, but now they thrive in Panama, have become dual citizens and will never go bankrupt due to a medical bill. But yes, you make an excellent point. These two should plan for their retirement. They can do so while in Panama, in the same manner as the other folks I mentioned who started from scratch. Also, if they plan to homestead, they won't go hungry. There's always fruits, veggies and fish, if not on your own land (which they should plant fruits & veggies) (also randomly as they drive in fields on the side of the road in the countryside). They won't go hungry if they have half-decent survival skills. But I was a bit worried at them staying at that AirBNB because $60/night may seem like Motel-6 prices in the U.S., in Panama is pretty luxurious, as could be shown by their 2-bedroom apartment. The importance is on not frittering your money away on fancy AirBNBs and only doing stuff like that on special occasions. And even tho $1 trips on taxis may seem cheap, they should learn to use public transportation, which is very good in Panama, much better than in most parts of the U.S., and cheap as dirt!
@R V In The Republic of Panama what they call Social Security there is actually a combination of what we call it here plus Medicare For All. So, in Panama you get to use your Social Security right away. It is truly Social because every citizen can use it, even if they don't have a job. You fall and break your leg? The ambulance and doctor bills are paid for. No money out of pocket. Your meds afterwards also paid for. Nobody, NOBODY goes bankrupt in Panama due to Medical bills. Of course, it does not cover stuff elective plastic surgery. For stuff like nose jobs, breast-augmentations and that kind of stuff, you're on your own. But if you suffer a car accident and are disfigured, the doctors will do what they can to ameliorate the situation. My granny had a cornea implant way before that type of procedure was available in the U.S., and it was covered. And Panamanian taxes are lower that in the U.S. because it is subsidized by money from the National Lottery and Casinos. And since nobody is bending anyone's arm to play the Lotto or go to the Casinos, it's not theft either. Win/Win. Happy/Happy situation. If little itty bitty Panama can be creative like this and afford every citizen health coverage with no out of pocket expenses then the richest country on the planet and in the history of the solar system can definitely do it!!!!
I feel very bad when I have to hear all these kinds of things about my country Panama ... I do not intend to contradict them, because everything they say is true ... However, I hope to hug you a little with these words ... I think you are an amazing couple and I admire the courage in facing challenges like leaving your home and adopting this piece of land as yours.
I love Panama, I lived there for 5 years. I have a lot of contacts there, including excellent legal resources there. Any questions, give me a shout and I will be happy to share. They can make ur life much easier.
David Jordan Hi, I will be moving to Panama. And I would love everything and all you may share to proceed easily. I went in November for 12 days, plan to return in Feb to start immigration and paperwork for banking. Thanks in advance for all. Oh yes,what about taking my furniture and 1 car? I have really nice things Some I wish to keep, and much I can part with. I’m building a small Villa in the Chiriquí providence. I heard by the grapevine we can bring any wood furniture. Those are matters of concern. All the scare tactic for me is the Law system, and shady Lawyers. Please advise? Kindly, Cynthia
Please send me your legal resources eg. Lawyers info...mmmmm1322@yahoo.com Planning to move to Panama City or nearby, and need 2 purchase a home (if Possible)....T.Y. in advance...
Hey guys, great video. Given the scorpions and toads item, You ought to check into Vitamin C. It's a powerful antitoxin and anti-venom when taken in a high enough dose at frequent enough intervals. You can take it by mouth either as Ascorbic acid powder, capsules or as liposomal gel. (In emergency tablets are not ideal because they take too long to dissolve in the stomach.) I keep tons of powder around so I never run out. I used Vit C after a bee sting on my foot, the pain was terrible and getting worse, by the second. I popped a 1,000 mg Vit C with water, then 30 seconds later another because the pain didn't go down, then 30 seconds later another 1,000- I can't remember how often I did this, but I kept taking it every 30 to 60 seconds, always with water, until the pain went away. It was over in about 3 minutes. (You can take 2,000 every few seconds too, depending on the need. Once you start using it you get to know what your body needs. Even little kids can learn to titrate the amounts.) Usually a bee sting pain will go away in a few hours but you ache for days. This time, nothing. Except now I watch where I step with my bare feet. Here is a page from a website that tells you everything about Vitamin C. You'll need to jump around the site but the page on titration is good as well as the colds and flu page. Here is the venom page, but realize it's a doctor's summary and he injected it. Injection is fast and powerful but it can be mimicked by frequently taking Vitamin C by mouth. www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
My wife and I are hooked on your videos. This was the first one we watched, but after realizing that you are in Boquete we've watched a bunch more. We hope to visit Boquete in the next few months. We are curious to know if you've needed to learn Spanish, or if you are able to get by with just English. Keep up the great work!
I enjoyed this channel for awhile, but became very disappointed when all this wide-eyed, adolescent naivete started about the promised land in Panama. I expected these two to be smarter than that. You never can tell....
Actually, because they continued to make comments about their legal assistance, I wouldn't call it all that "naive." The bureaucratic minutia they addressed is dominate in any country. For me, it's a reminder of that which most already know. . .they simply need reminding. They know this. . .money makes things happen. That "naive" facade you perceive you see? I don't think so. They appear to be genuinely nice people. . .don't take advantage.
I've watched 3 or 4 of your videos, and I have to ask, where do you get your money to travel all over and then to settle in Panama? Do you work along the way, or did you save a ton of money? I do enjoy your videos, thanks.
Dude, nice vid, and Panama IS beautiful. Small word of advice, if you're planning to make Panama your new home...get a HAIRCUT...the shorter the better, and KEEP it that way. Panameños (especially the authorities) associate long hair with the ingestion of Recreative Substances (and not just weed), and your look is a total bust! As for you, young Hottie, get rid of the nose ring, that too is a Total Bust Look! Another thing...learn to speak Panameño...WELL! Subpar language skills in a country that is proud of its culture, is the fastest way to get those "Gringo Prices" you mentioned. If you come out speaking Panameño, the locals will be so shocked, it will give you the edge in everything monetary. Without the aforementioned points, at worst you will be looked down on and people will try to take advantage of you, and at best, they will just not take you seriously. Remember to keep your ID with you at ALL TIMES. You can be required to show it if the document is demanded by the authorities. In addition, when you DO get to where you want to live, RENT for at least one year before even thinking of buying any property. Good Luck on your new life phase!
No matter where you move to, you should learn the language. It's a sign of respect if nothing else. I would never consider moving to another country without putting a lot of effort in learning the language as well as I possibly could. People who move to the U.S. should do the same
Panamanian here. I have never heard something as stupid as the above comment. Most women in Panama have long hair. The commenter has obviously never set foot in Latin America. No rings, and other piercings, are also particularly popular among millennials.
@@patriciahernandez6682 , Canalera, I'm talking about MEN with long hair. As for the piercings, I'm talking about CONSERVATIVE Panameños (you know, the ones with money, not a bunch of "hijos de papi.. limpios".
You make it sound like Panama is inhabited by the cast of Downton Abbey. You do know real people dont have prejudices like that? I dont think Panama is that underdeveloped.
@@sandydegener6436 Rich Panamanians are particularly opposite to your comment. Most of them have studied overseas. Have you actually ever been to Panama?
The red tape is off the charts crazy. Everything can take months or years to move along. They have 5 people doing the job that one person can do. I went to get my cédula and they have one window to submit my application, another window to approve the application, then a guy standing there just to tell you next window to go to. Then you spend 20 minutes standing in line in the window assign while all other Winfield are closed and the attendants are staring into discs doing nothing or in their cell phones. Bottom line, you have spent half your day trying to get your cédula. It’s like that FOR EVERYTHING. Pathetic. I’m Panamanian so u know what I’m talking about.
This seems to be an interesting place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future when all this is over. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much!
Now they legalized medical use of marihuana recently. Panama is a conservative country. Take that into account. But many people aren't and no one minds.
Panama is interesting but very corrupt. But it's definitely a place that you should visit and if you do make sure to visit Cerro Punta, pedasi, and colon.
"Feels like you're being taken advantage of?" No, you ARE being taken advantage of. If people want to scream about equality... then may it be just that, and not defined by corrupted hypocrites, and local whimsy.
This was a very interesting and helpful video- thank you! One note about CBD and your trouble with anxiety & depression.... I struggled with mild depression for years, but 5 years ago began meditation (seriously) and I have had no significant symptoms of depression since. I have had mild anxiety at times (generally situational) and can always rely on meditation to provide relief. Best wishes to you both- and thanks again for your very thoughtful video.
Stress and anxiety are part of life and it is normal to feel that way with all the pressures of work; making enough money; paying college loans, mortgage, car, food, medical expenses, child care and education, etc. You cannot avoid stress, anxiety, pain, and depression. You have to learn to deal with all of it.
i agreeee..thanks for giving this advice to this lady. it did the same to me (bit i focus on chakras solfegik sounds,tibetan bowl etc not silent meditation)it helped sooo much...and i only tried CBD twice(two brands,in teas)it never did what meditating did...omg i wouldnt even pay for it each day(bit at least it works for this lady❤)
Absolutely. The Canal Zone was a paradise. I was raised in the 525 sq. mile Canal Zone and there was absolutely no place where I did not feel safe. Now criminal gangs dump dead bodies in the former Zone.
Issue I'm interested in: what is it like living during rainy season versus dry season? Does it rain for hours during the day in rainy season? Is rainy season a time to get some reading done?
What's funny about Panama is that weed's illegal (even though it grows wild in the jungle), but you can walk into a pharmacy and buy all the amphetamine you want. No prescription necessary, unless the law has changed. Oh, and they're not over charging you because you're a gringo, necessarily. They're over charging you because you look wealthy by local standards. This used to happen to my mother-in-law in Mexico and she was born there. She called it "charging by how you dress."
OMG I started watching your videos a few days ago and just realized that you are from Massachusetts. I’m a Panamanian living in Massachusetts for 11 years and went trough the same experience but in the opposite way. I’m falling in love again with my country watching your videos. Saludos y buena suerte
@Pamela Decambre In the end there is nothing wrong with foreigners paying a little more than locals. Craftsmen and skilled employees should be encouraged anywhere so when I was in Peru I tipped doctors or nurses the highest according to if ai thought they knew their work well. Craftsmen or hardworking small business people I also paid more. I dont pay taxis more because they usually get paid well anyway and it is unskilled
Gringo prices are real all across Spanish speaking Latin American countries. To avoid Gringo prices, you need to be aware and speak the language and not look like a tourist.
OK , you have now got me hooked . I have been watching for just about a month & I like what I see , the build of your home , the people you know . & call your friends . I think you have a fairly big piece of paradise . thank you . aussie bob
@@sandydegener6436 nothing quite like witnessing and participation in corruption at the lowest level. When ya really need a cop ya might have to pay them to do what they should do anyway,also.
@@johnmichaelkarma In Canada after a minor traffic ticket, information of the offence is sent to your insurance company. Rates will increase substantially for the next 3 years. Often +$1000.That is organized corruption. I like paying $10 in Mexico anyday
Do you take offense to them having an opinion or them being white? Everyone should have the freedom of an opinion and none of us have control over our predetermined ethnicity. I think a better word for you to use here would have been Foreigner.
I worked on a waste to energy project in Guatemala. We were looking at plastics especially as a fuel source to make heat to make steam to generate electricity. I researched the recycling of plastics. Huge efforts had been made to collect thousands of tons of plastic bottles etc but, it is only a tiny fraction of total usage meanibg much more ends up in rivers going to the oceans. Problem is, the recycling is basically a money losing effort. Costs more to collect, store and transport collected plastic than to make new plastic from oil.
Do you think Latins have an easier time when moving to USA? or to Europe? moving to different cultures is not easy, you must be positive, patient and assume you will have to pay the cost of ignorance everywhere. There is not country better than other, just different
Panama may not yet have its recycling act together ... BUT ... you can trade in your soda bottles for actual CASH! I remember when I was a teenager and I was stuck in a parking garage once because I was clueless and didn't know it wasn't free so I went around picking up soda bottles until I had enough along with the cash I did have in my pocket to pay for the parking. Which reminds me of the time I was a student fell asleep on the bus and woke up way far out of town. I hurriedly got off the bus but I didn't have the money I needed to catch a bus fare for the way back so I was at a bus stop trying to convince people to buy my pencils, pens, magic markers, anything to make enough money for my way back home. People were so disgusted at my insistence that they literally THREW money at me and told me to take a hike, kid. lol Although they acted rude towards me, I too was being a knucklehead, and they obviously had enough compassion to throw the money at me. It was actually an hilarious scene that I'll never forget. But I'm actually grateful to the weird way in which they were rude because after all I was able to go home. XD
it's good to show both sides, totally clicked on the video because of the thumbnail, you are positively glowing grrrrrl! shoutout to jordan for being onpoint with all the things too! stay safe and awesome guys.
Nice information. My wife & I visit Panama often because that is where she comes from. My wife eats, sleeps & drinks Panama. We once visited a jungle park (Parqué National) outside Panama City. I asked (in Spanish) the clerk who sold us the tickets if there were any snakes in the park; she shook her head no. I thought she wasn't entirely truthful; so I asked her in Spanish if there were any Fer de Lance (really bad snakes!!!). Incredible fear washed over her face. She could barely nod yes. Then she regained her composure and told us that if we stayed on the hiking path to the top of the small mountain (or hill) we would be safe. I would love to travel to the Darien Gap. My wife will not allow me to go there. Even she is filled with fear. An American missionary couple disappeared without a trace more than 60-years-ago.
sounds like a crazy place with gringo prices and the possibility of getting framed with Marijuana and going to prison. Its sounds ridiculous that you have to hire a lawyer just to navigate the ever changing rules.
I really like your stories about setting up a new life in Panama. I cannot watch you driving around without wearing seatbelts. You are smart people. Please wear them. It is not worth the risk. Just ask an Emergency Care doctor about the injuries caused in accidents to people not wearing a seatbelt. It might change your thinking. Please. You know it is common sense.
Presumably, you are there to offer your hard work for humanitarian causes and make a better world, and not just a couple of spoiled brats with money to waste on a self indulgent joyride through life.
I've lived in China and Thailand, I'm a US ex-pat. Most of what you're describing is common to all countries. From what you said, Thailand is cheaper than Panama and Thailand has medical marijuana. I considered Panama before ending up in Thailand. Cheers
Right, but as an international airline pilot, I can share with you that quite often countries do not stamp your passport and if they do not, it is not proper to hold the visitor accountable. This is despicable and backwards.
Not really.over the past 30 years, I have traveled from the u.s. to Canada, much of Europe, Australia, Japan and have never had a passport or documentation problem. ever
govt in general harrase, bully intimidate, lie and exort ....basically planet Earth.....printing fiat paper with ink printed on it ...used to create debt ....or making it up out of thin air ,....we have all worked their games out now ...
What I’m genuinely wondering about is how do the locals react when you walk about in very revealing clothes? 🤔 I can do as I please in Canada, but when I was in Mexico and Costa Rica I didn’t wear a bikini nor went bra less outside of the beach areas, as it seemed to me like the local ladies were modest. I also made sure I learned basic Spanish so I would not assume anyone would understand English or French. I haven’t been to South America yet, so I’m curious how’s the dress code day to day - especially when you venture out by yourself without a man?
Panama City Panama is a very sexy city and as soon as you land and go thru customs the airport is filled with billboards of very sexy ads with women not wearing much. Won't be a problem wearing whatever you want Panama is very diverse with many cultures from all over the World. There are many freelance escorts from all over South America and Caribbean that travel to Panama for 3 months to work and save money and they are about 24/7. However if you dress super sexy you will be cat called by local construction workers tourist ect. Local men wear pants during the day and button up shirts and professional women dress in black nice fitting pants and nice shirts. But South American men definitely like North American women so you may get a lot of attention. Maybe dress modest if you go out yourself and if with boyfriend ect dress however. Panama City is a bit like Vegas or Miami in some ways. People won't really care how you dress in most situations locals may crack jokes or give a funny look maybe get jealous because they are working for a low wage and there are tons of rich forigen people living and vacation in Panama doing and dressing however they please. It's a unique country with just about everything won't be as traditional as Mexico ect.
Here is a small advice from Eastern Europe: the system by and large does not work precisely it is just copied off from somewhere in the case of Panama maybe the US or Spain. Your attitude of trying to find German or American style precision in laws and customs will get you into situations where corrupt people can extort money from you. For example, with the passport if you stay like that until you exit and enter the country again nobody probably notices.
Being under "Napoleonic Coding" does not mean lack of presumption of innocence. As a matter of fact presumption of innocence is written into the constitution of the country (Art 22) , and in fact this protection extends in EQUAL STANDING to foreigners in Panama (Art 20). Coded laws means that JUDGES have DISCRETIONARY LIMITATIONS based on LAWS... instead of having to be based on precedent. These two things make a stark contrast with other systems in which an unprecendented case is a blank slate not only for a judge to decide whatever he thinks it is right, but also causes that one man decision to become precedent. That being said, I am not promoting one system over the other... all human organizations are inherently flawed because they are made by humans who are themselves imperfect. I am just saying that it is not true that the burden of proof falls on the accused. I am not a lawyer, but I am sure you can ask one of the many lawyers in Panama and they will corroborate this.
Thanks guys. About halfway through your video, I was convinced. Panama is definitely off of my list! I appreciate you being so honest about it. Good luck to you both.
The Gringo price happens in a lot of countries: India, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. #FirstWorldProblems I'm usually happy to pay the foreigner price just because for us it's inconsequential but for the seller, it's a big deal. I love to let people think they ripped me off by me paying an extra $3 for t-shirt. Makes them feel good and I don't get hurt.
I wish I can put more than 1 like for you guys, my fiance from Panama, we living now in Istanbul, Turkey, and I'm doing research for move to Panama, your vlogs help me a lot, thanks.
don't listen to this guy lol. Clearly he didn't understand anything on this video since they never said they didn't want to comply with laws. In fact, they said they wish they could know the laws MORE to keep complying with them. But Panama is such as unorganized country that their laws change so much not even their government employees know them accurately, hence why the attorney had to call the lady at customs.
@beautiful boombap I guess it all depends on perspective and personality. If you are risk averse and prefer to live comfortably in what is already familiar and safe, than go ahead. But there's literally thousands of people that migrate to other countries where the positives outweigh the cons/risks.
Antonio Pinheiro Pires That would apply equally to South Americans who come to our country. We’d prefer you all go back to where you came from. English is our national language. It’s illegal to drive drunk or without a license here. Our social safety systems were enacted for those who paid in.
I entered the US with my mom once (we are not American citizens) and then we had to go back to the airport to get our stamps and I-94 forms redone correctly. They switched up the passports. It happens, people make mistakes. They fixed it.
Pros and Cons like everywhere in the world. If you can deal with the bad you can enjoy the good, so be always mindful of cons and balance it. Saludos desde Chiriquí ❤🇵🇦
I was born in Panama and yes, I speak Spanish. I just feel like if you upload a video related to Panama, it would get at least 8 views; but when someone uploads a video about really known countries such as USA or Canada, it would get lot of views. The only reason people know Panama, is because of the canal and the World Youth Day.
As someone who has visited more than half of the US and quite a few countries, friendly and not-so friendly, I'd say that the best way to avoid getting into trouble anywhere is to not act like you're special because you were initially a US citizen. Just be open-minded and always willing to learn the local customs and laws, without acting as if they should all be bent because (once again) you were born in the USA. While in the military, I always used to get compliments such as, "You don't act like an American." which I always took as one of the highest compliments I could receive from a foreign host.
These kids are entitled and just are upset because they had to hire Panama people and there business model crashed and burned. Like most so called influencers they only think what is important can be seen with their selfie stick while filming themselves. They just exploit their sponsors and followers who have no discernment.
Very well said.
That's not a compliment, dude.
@@ScheneekaAIKENS outside of US it is ;)
Where I shop, sometimes on the street, I always tip good. The people are poor, and I appreciate being able to help them.
I lived in Panama Five years I have 100 of stories just like their ten. One of my favorites was the day that most of the one way roads changed to the opposite direction, but none of the signs changed. Yes that really happened.
hehe, also that happened to me, I didnt know and I was thinking that everybody gets crazy on the street.
It's only for rush hour, and traffic cops are always posted on such streets. Hey, at least you didn't have to drive on the left side of the road.
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Like @ Carnivale? True, but expected and quite temporary. If you are a local, you know. If tourist, you SHOULD know.
I could tell you all kinds of nightmares living in Mexico. The good part, 20 bucks usually takes care of most problems.
@@patrickvanmeter2922 haha
I am a Panamanian living in Florida. Father was in the military and I was born and raised in Panama. More than half my family lives there so I go back quite a bit. With that said, you are right. Those things do exist. The “gringo- price” has been in effect ever since the Torrijos - Jimmy Carter treaty. Southern Command (southcom) was established in Panama which was a strategic military hold to “monitor” central and South America. With that, the “gringo - price” came into full effect. Even though the treaty came to an end on 12/31/1999 the price gouging for Americans continues as there are still many Americans there and they continue to go there as there retirement destination from the states. All in all, I love my country and made sure I new every nook and cranny of Panama before I left to travel the world. I am sure you will absolutely fall in love with Panama. Enjoy!
Best part of the video: "We are trying to follow all the rules" (0.5 seconds later) "I'm driving up on the curb"
And neither are wearing their seatbelts in this video......illegal 🤪
Lmao
do you know that for sure in Panama?
@@dongarrett7595 in regards to seatbelts?? Yes. Driver and front seat passenger.
Hahahahahahahha
First rules of foriegn travel......wear sun glasses, , keep your mouth shut , and dont expect them to cater to you, speak the language, Then you can enjoy !
Totally agree 👍 discret attitude everywhere in the world is gold !
If only visitors to the US would do the same.
@StanleyHoffmann they do. However the neverending tirade against them, just for merely existing, will never go away.
I am panamenian. Almost everything you do not like about Panama is true.
The thing about being guilty before a trial is not true. We just changed the judicial system. You go swiftly in front of a judge who will decide your fate.
That is not being guilty before you prove you are inocent. They need to prove you are guilty.
She is White and resents darkskin people judging her. Typical White person.
@@MrAmhara ohhhh STOP!! please. I'm from Panama and I don't feel like she descrinating anybody. Beside most of the things she said are true. People in Pma always wanted to take advantage of the tourist by raising the price on everything. Now don't tell me you dont know that.
@@miar.4507 Only Panama though? You ever been to France or Italy? I haven't seen anybody trying to slip a bracelet on their wrist then ask for 20 dollars yet.
Thanks I was just about to comment the same.
@@miar.4507 Very true , especially the yellow cabs eres Panamena?
I live in panama and you have to be very careful! Although panama is amazing their are a lot of people
Including “lawyers” who take advantage of Americans!! Especially “gringos”
Many beautiful women want rich Gringo husbands and they know how to grab your heart and get your money fast.
What part of Panama do you live??? I am a Panamanian live in in Boston Mass
Ivan Campbell They have a whole video about it, they live in Boquete.
@@alyssatorres5897 i saw the video Alyssa i am.a local born in Panama living in Boston on my next trip to Panama i would lime to visit Contadora Island and the Anton Village.
"Gringo" and "American" are the same thing.
"Innocent until proven guilty" hasn't existed in the real in America for sometime.
Thank you that is 100 percent true I lost everything beacuse my neibor filed a restraining order against me and I had 20 minets to get out my house the police forced me out and I was homless during the worst part of covid 19 and I lost my place cuse I had nowhere to go
They changed system to SPA, a guarantist system abused by criminals in which they get away with.
If your a Democrat politician you won't even be investigated
@@kyler565 True
@@sethmiller6128 Sorry to hear...but did you deserve the restraining order? It's not easy to get one...
My wife and I lived in Mexico for 4 years. It was exactly there what you are explaining for Panama. I'm looking forward to receiving the coffee I ordered from you nearly a month ago. But, I'm sure it will be delicious when I do.
Love your videos, it is amazing so many people will leave a nasty comment or act so ricious... Keep up the positive work and videos , My husband and I moved to Panama last November we did all the research and educated ourselves however ,like you know once your in it things come up and yes you live and learn that is part of life anywhere in world. We just rolled all the I've and learns off our shoulder and know we are just happy to be alive and healthy. We happened to be back home in US when everything hit and have yet been able to make it back, but we can't wait to be back as we bought our new home there. Keep it up you guys rock
You guys happen to make it back yet?
I was in Panama on business back in the 70s and was offered a full time job by the Panamanian company that I was contracted with. They had Americans working there and they said it was an excellent company to work for and one of the reasons, besides good pay, is you did not need health insurance as the company took care of their employees no matter what had happened. Those days, Americans were not really liked, but once I told them who I worked for, their attitudes became very friendly. Also, the Americans told me it really was not a place they would raise their children. At that time, I had no children in the 7 years of marriage, but was now looking to start a family, so that was a big reason I did not take the job which was in aviation. It may all be different now. Hope it all works out for you two!
I love it when you guys say "only $60 for this airbnb" while I sit in my Manila Airbnb right on Manila Bay for $25 :)
They've gotten 2 bedrooms
Yes there are truly many stupid youtubers
Too bad you arer in the Philippines though
@@alsteeves2044 How so? I guess to each his own. I love it here. It's the best decision that I've ever made. They have fantastic live bands and the public transport here is fantastic. I do not need a car here (that way I avoid thousands in car related expenses and headaches). I'm also totally safe here even in the middle of the night or early in the morning when I come home from some great entertainment.
I had an idylic childhood in Panama 55 years ago in the Canal Zone as a military dependent. I guess it was pretty colonial in some ways, but for a kid it was just paradise.
Nice channel! Bienvenidos a Panama. I'm an American Expat living and working in Panama City. You are right that you need to double check all legal paperwork and it is tedious. When you start building the tiny homes, you will need to double check that the the quantity & quality the materials you order and the finishes on the contractor's work. In general, standards are different to what you are used to so you will need to be forceful and direct to make sure the jobs are done right. Don't feel bad for demanding what you are paying for. ALSO, there is recycling in Panama, its just not done publicly like trash collection or water. Grocery stores like Riba Smith and even private business have recycling, like at my office building, MMG Tower. If you drink beer, you can buy a case (literally a plastic case) of Panama or Balboa at local store (bodega/chinito) and when your done with 'em, you bring the case and the empty bottles back and you buy new beers minus the price of the case. Ask around about recycling but the best thing you can do is not use non-necessary plastic. Looking forward to the next videos! Abrazo.
I am Panamanian. I enjoyed your video. I lived in the states for many years. My wife and I decided to move a little further south. We are now living in Medellin Colombia. We had to relearn many things and be patient; especially at banks and the slow moving cashier checkout. Enjoy and keep us informed. Blessings!
Do you speak fluent Spanish ? That will change a lot of things, if you do.
If they're serious they should definitely learn Spanish and the local customs and courtesies.
fanfare100 n
Just as if you speak fluent English up here and know the culture and customs; very helpful to get respect and much better treatment.
Lk M I was born and grew up in South America. Speak fluent Spanish, it was the only country and home I ever knew, but I’m white and of European decent, and experienced every one of the things that these people don’t like about Panama. If you’re white, the vast majority will see and treat you as a gringo and outsider. It’s a way of life. If there is a bit more money to be made, why not. The only way to do well in Latino culture is to be vigilant and start thinking like they do. Negotiate your taxi fare before you leave. Then be generous with your tip and you’ll make friends for life. I love the Latino culture. The thing I miss most here in Canada.
Lk M I can speak a bit of Spanish and I love Panama I’ve been there twice
Totally get it! It is very helpful to any one thinking of traveling or moving to Panama to have realistic expectations. Most are not expecting perfection but it's very helpful to hear about exactly what you two have experienced. Sure I know you are generally very positive and upbeat and I love that you share that and point out the wonderful culture and beautiful, kind, helpful people. It's a good really check to cover these 7 things in the one video, keeping it real, yet showing us things to be mindful and careful about. Great job!!!
In Peru I eventually came to the conclusion usually gringo prices aren't that bad. As an American who appreciates skill, I dont overpay unskilled taxis but usually happily give hardworking people like small family restaurants or craftsmen more than locals pay. Doctors or nurses I ALWAYS tip heavy. Over 10$ for a doctor who charged me $4 for a visit and knew his field.
I lived in Panama for 3 plus years. I shake my head and grin listening to these videos.
As an American, living in South America since 1980, I have met a lot of dreamers who are clueless about life here. You are in a DIFFERENT WORLD. Most of these dreamers focus on nonsense, not on reality. And that is, How do you become a Legal Resident? And that will determine if you can Legally Work. Without this legal status you are just another illegal alien.
You are totally right you will never find a perfect place where things are always right. I have lived in 30 states out of the 50 and in each state I have found things that I don't like and in few of them I just could not live there. In Panama you need to use your savvy to get around and the country is currently going through some changes for the better I would say. The constitution is being revised to give the people more right to decide about the country's future and the well being of the population. Also, people in the country side are so different from the one's from the city. Keep in mind Panama's population is very diverse. There are people from every corner of the world in this small, but beautiful country.
Countries are like people. They all have their bad things, but some of those things you can put up with or even find endearing while others... not so much. But the good stuff, oh man, the good stuff can make up for so much not so good stuff.
How are the country side people so different from city people???
Except that in every state you can do things online, by mail or on the phone including buying a home. Try buying a home in Panama and see how many attorneys, banks, notaries etc you’d have to stand in line for each document.
Suggest that you become more observational about the ways that the locals dress. Then begin to imitate their dress. For Her, nothing off the shoulder, lose the shorts, tie it back. For him, shave and a haircut are in order. While you will still stick out like a sore thumb as gringos and rubes, it will be a little less so. Consider, you are so awfully loud that you were "marked" immediately on your very first entry and the grand paid for a lot of Christmas presents. Lower your profile, improve your odds.
The fact that you need an attorney on speed dial is reason enough not to move there.
Maybe attermy is super cheap
Right that's crazy it's nothing wrong to live in another country, but one with no organization, guidance, & workers lying to make it hard for you to take care of your business trying to get settled in moving there is a headache. I'll be back in the U.S @ least we got structure. They dont want Americans over there. They ripping off Americans... & she talking about she got anxiety & depression problems she needs to think about that...
@@monicadupree7928 I know it's never a good idea to lie but I'm tempted to ask when in less formal situations might it be easier just to say you're Canadian or if you're Irish American just say I'm Irish. I'd imagine there's bad feelings towards Americans due to the military invasion years ago. I heard a lot more people died than we were told. Not sure if that's true but I would rather not tell them where I'm from.
Yup, that's my thought
@@vitocorleone8323 Not at all,Sir...that is what you've heard.I'm Panamenian and for some reason this rumors go around(check Historical facts,🇺🇸 had help Panama to become how it is)so we a ever grateful.
One of the things electricity is very expensive comparing to US. $0.11 per kilowatt hour in Florida VS $0.16 per kilowatt hour in Panama. If you only use air conditioning at night , evening and when sleeping in an average Small two bedroom apartment your utility bills will be $200-$250+- per month . If you leave air conditioning turned on at all times and you cook everyday on LPG you're looking at $500-$600+. Monthly utility bill.
Welcome to Expat living. I really don't like that word, Expat, since it was always very derogatory. Any way. I live in the Philippines. I am surprised that Customs handles VISAS in Panama. Here it is the bureau of immigration. Paperwork is a top priority and must be perfectly completed in any transaction here. Drugs? In most of Southeast Asia, "Dada means death"! Dada means drugs of any kind which have not been prescribed! In the Philippines, if a person is caught with drugs, the person is usually not killed. He or she is put on prison and may come to trial in 3 or 4 years. And the years awaiting trial don't count as time served! Most of the time here, I can expect to pay the same price for things as any Filipino does. There are some exceptions when I know a Filipino and he can negotiate a price for me, but not in the super markets or major department stores. One thing I learned in almost any foreign country is that the attitude of the people is the the US is a wealthy country and all the people are as wealthy as the Rockefeller's or DJT. I have had people here tell me that so much stuff is free in the US. I have had to tell them that it isn't so. Filipinos want to go to US because salaries are big. I explain to them that so are expenses. My apartment here (foreigners in the Philippines are not permitted to own land here) costs 13,000₱ per month. That for many Filipinos is impossible. For me is less than one-half of what is paid in the US for something not even half as large as what I have here. But, they don't understand. That's not unusual for any one in Central America as well. But I have yet to find the people in the US as friendly and helpful as here and I have heard the same for many other countries. Yes, the laws here seem to change quickly and no one is informed. Selecting proper friends is a requirement. There is a criminal element everywhere in the world - no exceptions to that. I hope though that your time in Panama is mostly good and happy. Sad to learn that one is leaving.
+Gregory
"Expats" is just a fancy way of saying "immigrants" without all the baggage that word carries.
Panama recently banned all plastic bags. A step in the right direction.
What they shoud have banned or tax was the plastic boottles I, and most people I know re-use our grocery plastic bags.....Its all mafia...the new bags are made of corn seulae...big business for monsanto
That happened after a whole bunch of plastic garbage washed upon the shore in Panama and the majority of it appeared to have come from the U.S.. When it washed up it almost looked dystopian. It was quite the clean-up effort. And it was most certainly unfair. So Panama will take a baby step to do its part and no longer use plastic bags for groceries.
Here in the U.S. as well now
LOL! And in the US, the CDC has found that recyclable bags carry the Covid 19 virus (among other pathogens), vs. plastic bags which are sterile. Banning shit isn't the answer. Knocking people over the head for littering, THAT'S the answer.
@@fanfare100 um no all that trash came from right here in Panama...
Great video! I lived in the South Pacific coast of Costa Rica for 4 years and you are spot on. I loved living there but definitely got tired of some things. Mainly the petty crime and being charged more at every turn.
I was in Panama for two years in the military. I was a bus driver for Fort Gulic and I really loved the place. I only got to see mostly military places because I was not and adventurer and stayed close to Fort Gulic. I did go into Colon several time to see a floor show and have a few dirnks but that was all. I got to drive troupes to differenty Air Ports and drive to Panama City etc. But all i can say is i loved the place and the weather. The food i had was better than my mother home cooking. Most of the meals I ate was prepaired by millitary cooks on the base. I also got to see Fort Sand Loranzo, I'm sure I have missed spelled it because I could never spell. The birds are beautiful , they are all colors. Have a good time but I'm staying in the United States, I love it to.
I lived at Ft Clayton off the Mira Flores Locks from 95-98. My daughter was born at Patilia hospital in Panama City. We loved it so much we didn’t want to move home to the states. Now I’m 48, my BFF and I want to go back to visit and possibly buy land/property there. Your videos make me homesick for it so much! One day we will get down there and hopefully get to meet y’all! Been here since the beginning of your journey and it’s just so cool watching you guys make your homestead there. The envy is Huge 😂😂😂 much love and blessings guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hello Teri greething from panama
Pleausure
How are you
Saludos desde Panamá
Many of these things are similar in Mexico. During my 25 years here they have been changing quite much though and my advantage is that I have been a Mexican for over 12 years now. Living in a climate like yours at the Caribbean for 18 now and planning on a homestead
You are Mexican so you have the advantage. Different when a Gringo.
The "gringo price" you mention is actually a "foreigner price" which I as a Panamanian oppose and have talked against it many times with many fellow-people, most of them taxi drivers. But as you pointed-out, one good thing we Panamanians have is that we are reasonable enough to back down and charge a fair price when confronted with saavy foreigners like you two.
A veces, pero no es siempre.
Welcome to Panama. I moved in August 2019 and live in the mountains. I would not have been able to survive the heat, humidity and mosquitoes of the rest of Panama for very long. But keep in mind, you are a guest here. There will be situations where you will be taken advantage of because they will see you as a "rich American". Take it in stride or go elsewhere. IMO, it's a mild annoyance, no worse than the heat. If you have not already, LEARN SPANISH. A whole new world opens up to you here if you can speak the language. Best wishes and Happy Holidays. Dios te bendiga.
there are no chicas, or entertainment what so ever in the mountains and power outages are way to frequent! Security is an issue and i could see myself only living in the capital in a high rise with tight security. The government of Panama failed miserably in all layers. Panama is now a failed state and your security is no longer guaranteed. However it is paradise for crime lords because everything and everybody is for sale. Panama is one of these countries that cornered themselves in an economic chaos and it has no way out because the population lacks education / discipline and ethics. People living in the countryside of latin america need most likely an AK 47 for personal protection.
Wow that was eye opening I was thinking about moving there in retirement
Few years ago many Americans went to Panamá seeking a better life. Today they are running to hell out. Even the Venezuelans who were escaping the Maduro”s regime are getting out the country. This country is no good it’s a disastrous mess.
One of the things I disliked when I went to Panama was the trash everywhere, there was trash along the roads, on the beaches etc... Panama isn't even a poor country and many poorer countries are cleaner. I wonder if they addressed this problem since 2017-2018.
I think other healthy oils probably work as well as cbd oil. People just don't get enough of it. Olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil. They all help relieve anxiety and give a good mood.
About your bus, you could give it away and build a shed. I know you probably like to sit in it and remember where you've been in it though.
Also, be generous with your gringo prices. It will come back to you some other way. The locals are not living the life you are.
I hope u keep your hair ,u look better..
Your wife hair long 😍 I'm glad yall did land& living yall dream
Normally I really enjoy your vlogs. I have lived my life around the world as an ex-pat (both as a child and adult). One thing that was clear was that your experience demonstrates that those of us from the US have a certain expectation of treatment and engagement with a government body. It's just different outside of the US. Maybe what this vlog revealed was that you are breaking your own expectations as much as embracing the local community. Certainly, it can be frightening at times when you are in cultures that don't speak your language and your expectations are getting challenged if not shattered. I remember one time in India, the driver was going in the opposite direction of traffic at a high speed. He turned to me and just said to look down at my feet and he will take care of the rest. The experience of others is so worth it. I'm glad you are in Panama. Enjoy and good health.
This is really important to understand. When moving to another country from America. As Americans we have certain expectations and if we wanted things to be the American way we need to stay in America. With every country there are pros and cons. This is good to hear anyway. As I am getting to closer to retirement. Panama is on my list of places to retire.
Ok guys...go to Spain, Italy, Germany, Usa.....on and on....and NOT be Meticulous about your paperwork....hellooooo?....
Everything they said is basically correct. As a US citizen of Panamanian decent, who grew up in the country, I can tell you that all things considered it is still by far one of the best places to live outside of the US. The reason many US citizens move to Panama is simple; your money goes further. Where else can you buy a bay front condo in the city for under 300K? Where else can you have a first class seafood or steak dinner for under $15? Where else, other than Switzerland, can you live in a banking paradise? The fact is that all things considered, it is still by far one of the best places to live outside the US. As far as having your atty on speed dial, unlikely. The US Embassy in Panama does an outstanding job providing assistance to US citizens just for the asking.
BS. The condo will likely fall down in a few years. Terrible construction practices and no upgrades of sewers etc. it’s a joke
@sbgibbons, really? The embassy is not that helpful
Having had a house with three other surf guys some years ago in Tamarindo, CR..if you do not speak the language or willing to learn it..the problems are just magnified..and not worth the experience.
Many people ex pats for example who retire in Panama or CR eventually return to the States due to medical related issues. Try USVI or BVI..easy, in-expensive if a local..easy to get there..water much cleaner and really clear...and if one doesn't like it..it is just 2 hours back to Fort Lauderdale or Orlando (r/t about $150. per person). Yes, CR or Panama has some nice attributes..but, the bureaucracy and language barriers make it a challenge sometimes
Being someone who’s been to all the above I really wouldn’t compare USVI/BVI to lil 🏄♂️ towns like Santa T, Tamarindo etc… come on.
What do you do for work?
Praising surf shark over the top I guess
Not to be negative Nancy, but very concerned for you two as I've watched you for a very long time...I hope in the future you don't regret living in a country such as Panama. Things could go badly very fast from the sounds of it. Don't be naive thinking it can't happen to you. Anyone could make anything up to accuse you of through jealousy, etc they see you as "rich American gringos!" Also, another huge thing that keeps crossing my mind is the fact that I am of social security age and pray you are setting away money for your future. You are not working and putting into social security in the US. You may need to go back to live there one day if things fail and you will be financially in trouble when too old to work. Everything may be cheap & beautiful there now, but older age catches up very fast, before you realize it. Please just be sure you are planning for your future. My 36 year work career happened and ended in the blink of an eye. I am thankful to have lived in this great, free country, and living pretty well set, unlike others I know who moved to Canada for years & ended up coming back here and now are struggling because they did poor planning and are living next to poverty level. Just trying to give you kids another view of what life could be down the road if you don't plan properly for your future! Then again, you may end up very wealthy. ...I hope so!! Love you guys! Please be vigilant!
I think you might be being a little bit of a Negative Nancy and Debbie Downer or Pessimist Pete or whatever. :P lol The importance is not to flaunt your wealth, no matter where you go. Whether it be the modest parts of Panama, North Carolina, Alabama or Louisiana. After they're down there for a year they can look into becoming dual citizens of Panama. As such they would be eligible for Panama's Universal Healthcare/Social Security. In the U.S., Muslims are accused of being "terrorists" just for being Muslim and people are beaten to a pulp just for Driving While Black. I know "gringos" who have retired in Panama for that reason. I know a gentleman from Oklahoma who lost his job in the U.S. and therefore his health coverage. Moving to Panama literally saved his life! Other folks who lost _everything_ due to being abandoned by the U.S. after hurricanes Katrina, Sandy or Maria. They had to start from scratch in Panama, but now they thrive in Panama, have become dual citizens and will never go bankrupt due to a medical bill. But yes, you make an excellent point. These two should plan for their retirement. They can do so while in Panama, in the same manner as the other folks I mentioned who started from scratch. Also, if they plan to homestead, they won't go hungry. There's always fruits, veggies and fish, if not on your own land (which they should plant fruits & veggies) (also randomly as they drive in fields on the side of the road in the countryside). They won't go hungry if they have half-decent survival skills. But I was a bit worried at them staying at that AirBNB because $60/night may seem like Motel-6 prices in the U.S., in Panama is pretty luxurious, as could be shown by their 2-bedroom apartment. The importance is on not frittering your money away on fancy AirBNBs and only doing stuff like that on special occasions. And even tho $1 trips on taxis may seem cheap, they should learn to use public transportation, which is very good in Panama, much better than in most parts of the U.S., and cheap as dirt!
@R V In The Republic of Panama what they call Social Security there is actually a combination of what we call it here plus Medicare For All. So, in Panama you get to use your Social Security right away. It is truly Social because every citizen can use it, even if they don't have a job. You fall and break your leg? The ambulance and doctor bills are paid for. No money out of pocket. Your meds afterwards also paid for. Nobody, NOBODY goes bankrupt in Panama due to Medical bills. Of course, it does not cover stuff elective plastic surgery. For stuff like nose jobs, breast-augmentations and that kind of stuff, you're on your own. But if you suffer a car accident and are disfigured, the doctors will do what they can to ameliorate the situation. My granny had a cornea implant way before that type of procedure was available in the U.S., and it was covered. And Panamanian taxes are lower that in the U.S. because it is subsidized by money from the National Lottery and Casinos. And since nobody is bending anyone's arm to play the Lotto or go to the Casinos, it's not theft either. Win/Win. Happy/Happy situation. If little itty bitty Panama can be creative like this and afford every citizen health coverage with no out of pocket expenses then the richest country on the planet and in the history of the solar system can definitely do it!!!!
I feel very bad when I have to hear all these kinds of things about my country Panama ... I do not intend to contradict them, because everything they say is true ... However, I hope to hug you a little with these words ... I think you are an amazing couple and I admire the courage in facing challenges like leaving your home and adopting this piece of land as yours.
These guys always make me smile! Love them!!
Was doing research for a birding trip to Panama and came across your video, it is very helpful, thank you.
I love Panama, I lived there for 5 years. I have a lot of contacts there, including excellent legal resources there. Any questions, give me a shout and I will be happy to share. They can make ur life much easier.
David Jordan
Hi, I will be moving to Panama. And I would love everything and all you may share to proceed easily.
I went in November for 12 days, plan to return in Feb to start immigration and paperwork for banking.
Thanks in advance for all. Oh yes,what about taking my furniture and 1 car? I have really nice things
Some I wish to keep, and much I can part with. I’m building a small Villa in the Chiriquí providence.
I heard by the grapevine we can bring any wood furniture. Those are matters of concern.
All the scare tactic for me is the Law system, and shady Lawyers.
Please advise?
Kindly,
Cynthia
Please send me your legal resources eg. Lawyers info...mmmmm1322@yahoo.com Planning to move to Panama City or nearby, and need 2 purchase a home (if Possible)....T.Y. in advance...
Thanks for the offer Dave, this is something i'm looking into in about 5 years, also possibly Belize or Ecuador.
David Jordan. I checked out Your RUclips - no way to get a hold of You ive modified my profile to include my contact info
David , planning to visit maybe move from CR. Any suggestions?
Guys, except for a few months during the quarantine, there's always been recycling in Boquete. At least for the last 18 years that I've been here.
Hey guys, great video. Given the scorpions and toads item, You ought to check into Vitamin C. It's a powerful antitoxin and anti-venom when taken in a high enough dose at frequent enough intervals. You can take it by mouth either as Ascorbic acid powder, capsules or as liposomal gel. (In emergency tablets are not ideal because they take too long to dissolve in the stomach.) I keep tons of powder around so I never run out. I used Vit C after a bee sting on my foot, the pain was terrible and getting worse, by the second. I popped a 1,000 mg Vit C with water, then 30 seconds later another because the pain didn't go down, then 30 seconds later another 1,000- I can't remember how often I did this, but I kept taking it every 30 to 60 seconds, always with water, until the pain went away. It was over in about 3 minutes. (You can take 2,000 every few seconds too, depending on the need. Once you start using it you get to know what your body needs. Even little kids can learn to titrate the amounts.) Usually a bee sting pain will go away in a few hours but you ache for days. This time, nothing. Except now I watch where I step with my bare feet. Here is a page from a website that tells you everything about Vitamin C. You'll need to jump around the site but the page on titration is good as well as the colds and flu page. Here is the venom page, but realize it's a doctor's summary and he injected it. Injection is fast and powerful but it can be mimicked by frequently taking Vitamin C by mouth. www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
That's a GREAT website! I use vitamin c as a stool softener.
As someone from Peru, Panamá looks like a better place to live in any way.
My wife and I are hooked on your videos. This was the first one we watched, but after realizing that you are in Boquete we've watched a bunch more. We hope to visit Boquete in the next few months. We are curious to know if you've needed to learn Spanish, or if you are able to get by with just English. Keep up the great work!
I enjoyed this channel for awhile, but became very disappointed when all this wide-eyed, adolescent naivete started about the promised land in Panama. I expected these two to be smarter than that. You never can tell....
Actually, because they continued to make comments about their legal assistance, I wouldn't call it all that "naive." The bureaucratic minutia they addressed is dominate in any country. For me, it's a reminder of that which most already know. . .they simply need reminding. They know this. . .money makes things happen.
That "naive" facade you perceive you see? I don't think so. They appear to be genuinely nice people. . .don't take advantage.
I've watched 3 or 4 of your videos, and I have to ask, where do you get your money to travel all over and then to settle in Panama? Do you work along the way, or did you save a ton of money?
I do enjoy your videos, thanks.
Dude, nice vid, and Panama IS beautiful. Small word of advice, if you're planning to make Panama your new home...get a HAIRCUT...the shorter the better, and KEEP it that way. Panameños (especially the authorities) associate long hair with the ingestion of Recreative Substances (and not just weed), and your look is a total bust! As for you, young Hottie, get rid of the nose ring, that too is a Total Bust Look! Another thing...learn to speak Panameño...WELL! Subpar language skills in a country that is proud of its culture, is the fastest way to get those "Gringo Prices" you mentioned. If you come out speaking Panameño, the locals will be so shocked, it will give you the edge in everything monetary. Without the aforementioned points, at worst you will be looked down on and people will try to take advantage of you, and at best, they will just not take you seriously. Remember to keep your ID with you at ALL TIMES. You can be required to show it if the document is demanded by the authorities. In addition, when you DO get to where you want to live, RENT for at least one year before even thinking of buying any property. Good Luck on your new life phase!
No matter where you move to, you should learn the language. It's a sign of respect if nothing else. I would never consider moving to another country without putting a lot of effort in learning the language as well as I possibly could. People who move to the U.S. should do the same
Panamanian here. I have never heard something as stupid as the above comment. Most women in Panama have long hair. The commenter has obviously never set foot in Latin America. No rings, and other piercings, are also particularly popular among millennials.
@@patriciahernandez6682 , Canalera, I'm talking about MEN with long hair. As for the piercings, I'm talking about CONSERVATIVE Panameños (you know, the ones with money, not a bunch of "hijos de papi.. limpios".
You make it sound like Panama is inhabited by the cast of Downton Abbey. You do know real people dont have prejudices like that? I dont think Panama is that underdeveloped.
@@sandydegener6436 Rich Panamanians are particularly opposite to your comment. Most of them have studied overseas.
Have you actually ever been to Panama?
The red tape is off the charts crazy. Everything can take months or years to move along. They have 5 people doing the job that one person can do. I went to get my cédula and they have one window to submit my application, another window to approve the application, then a guy standing there just to tell you next window to go to. Then you spend 20 minutes standing in line in the window assign while all other Winfield are closed and the attendants are staring into discs doing nothing or in their cell phones. Bottom line, you have spent half your day trying to get your cédula. It’s like that FOR EVERYTHING. Pathetic. I’m Panamanian so u know what I’m talking about.
Facts
I’m researching Panama for a story I’m writing. My family is in Panama. Thank you for the video.
This seems to be an interesting place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future when all this is over. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much!
Visit Coiba Archipelago, swim with friendly reef sharks and turtles. You'll love it. I've done it many times.
Now they legalized medical use of marihuana recently. Panama is a conservative country. Take that into account. But many people aren't and no one minds.
Panama is interesting but very corrupt. But it's definitely a place that you should visit and if you do make sure to visit Cerro Punta, pedasi, and colon.
@@vleiravls5653 make sure you add Coiba Islands Archipelago, a natural reserve where you dive to where harmless coral reef sharks stay at the bottom.
"Feels like you're being taken advantage of?" No, you ARE being taken advantage of. If people want to scream about equality... then may it be just that, and not defined by corrupted hypocrites, and local whimsy.
Locals pay taxes that tourists don't, just to keep in mind.
This was a very interesting and helpful video- thank you! One note about CBD and your trouble with anxiety & depression.... I struggled with mild depression for years, but 5 years ago began meditation (seriously) and I have had no significant symptoms of depression since. I have had mild anxiety at times (generally situational) and can always rely on meditation to provide relief. Best wishes to you both- and thanks again for your very thoughtful video.
Stress and anxiety are part of life and it is normal to feel that way with all the pressures of work; making enough money; paying college loans, mortgage, car, food, medical expenses, child care and education, etc. You cannot avoid stress, anxiety, pain, and depression. You have to learn to deal with all of it.
Gany Meade
In Canada less anxiety and depression since we don’t have medical expenses and college loans.
i agreeee..thanks for giving this advice to this lady. it did the same to me (bit i focus on chakras solfegik sounds,tibetan bowl etc not silent meditation)it helped sooo much...and i only tried CBD twice(two brands,in teas)it never did what meditating did...omg i wouldnt even pay for it each day(bit at least it works for this lady❤)
@@julie.66 👍👍
Absolutely. The Canal Zone was a paradise. I was raised in the 525 sq. mile Canal Zone and there was absolutely no place where I did not feel safe. Now criminal gangs dump dead bodies in the former Zone.
Issue I'm interested in: what is it like living during rainy season versus dry season? Does it rain for hours during the day in rainy season? Is rainy season a time to get some reading done?
What's funny about Panama is that weed's illegal (even though it grows wild in the jungle), but you can walk into a pharmacy and buy all the amphetamine you want. No prescription necessary, unless the law has changed. Oh, and they're not over charging you because you're a gringo, necessarily. They're over charging you because you look wealthy by local standards. This used to happen to my mother-in-law in Mexico and she was born there. She called it "charging by how you dress."
This is completely false
OMG I started watching your videos a few days ago and just realized that you are from Massachusetts. I’m a Panamanian living in Massachusetts for 11 years and went trough the same experience but in the opposite way. I’m falling in love again with my country watching your videos. Saludos y buena suerte
Are they from MA? Wow I wouldn't have thought so because they don't have a Massachusetts accent.
Always remember; you are an outsider. The gringo loses every time, its always your fault. Just a fact of life.
@Pamela Decambre In the end there is nothing wrong with foreigners paying a little more than locals. Craftsmen and skilled employees should be encouraged anywhere so when I was in Peru I tipped doctors or nurses the highest according to if ai thought they knew their work well. Craftsmen or hardworking small business people I also paid more. I dont pay taxis more because they usually get paid well anyway and it is unskilled
Gee sounds like America in reverse. Well who knew...
Gringo prices are real all across Spanish speaking Latin American countries. To avoid Gringo prices, you need to be aware and speak the language and not look like a tourist.
OK , you have now got me hooked . I have been watching for just about a month & I like what I see , the build of your home , the people you know . & call your friends . I think you have a fairly big piece of paradise . thank you . aussie bob
The legal system there runs on "gratuities". How long do you want to play ?
So it worth to arrest gringos , they will pay more...
I always appreciated the ability to give a cop $10 or $20 for any traffic violation while I lived there.
Right, # me 2😁
No longer easy to do this, be careful
Of COURSE! They allow you to pay traffic tickets right there on the spot. It saves people the hassle of having to go to traffic court the next day.
@@sandydegener6436 nothing quite like witnessing and participation in corruption at the lowest level. When ya really need a cop ya might have to pay them to do what they should do anyway,also.
@@johnmichaelkarma In Canada after a minor traffic ticket, information of the offence is sent to your insurance company. Rates will increase substantially for the next 3 years. Often +$1000.That is organized corruption. I like paying $10 in Mexico anyday
A gringos perspective😂😂😂😂😂😂
At least, there's no human trafficking at gringo roads :].
Oh and don't forget the authorities of yours once they get questioned about mysterious "accidents" just like the "gringo hollandesas" 🙈🙉🙊
@@iiLoveAutumn did you see the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict?
A Gringo’s perspective? Yeah… great insights for other Gringos. 😁
Do you take offense to them having an opinion or them being white? Everyone should have the freedom of an opinion and none of us have control over our predetermined ethnicity. I think a better word for you to use here would have been Foreigner.
I worked on a waste to energy project in Guatemala. We were looking at plastics especially as a fuel source to make heat to make steam to generate electricity. I researched the recycling of plastics. Huge efforts had been made to collect thousands of tons of plastic bottles etc but, it is only a tiny fraction of total usage meanibg much more ends up in rivers going to the oceans.
Problem is, the recycling is basically a money losing effort. Costs more to collect, store and transport collected plastic than to make new plastic from oil.
Doesn't it seem like nations would outlaw disposable plastics, if oil mnfg is such a climate problem?
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Do you think Latins have an easier time when moving to USA? or to Europe? moving to different cultures is not easy, you must be positive, patient and assume you will have to pay the cost of ignorance everywhere. There is not country better than other, just different
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Bingo!!
Scandinavia is better than the United States and much better than Latin America.
Yes there are countries better than others.
Panama may not yet have its recycling act together ... BUT ... you can trade in your soda bottles for actual CASH! I remember when I was a teenager and I was stuck in a parking garage once because I was clueless and didn't know it wasn't free so I went around picking up soda bottles until I had enough along with the cash I did have in my pocket to pay for the parking. Which reminds me of the time I was a student fell asleep on the bus and woke up way far out of town. I hurriedly got off the bus but I didn't have the money I needed to catch a bus fare for the way back so I was at a bus stop trying to convince people to buy my pencils, pens, magic markers, anything to make enough money for my way back home. People were so disgusted at my insistence that they literally THREW money at me and told me to take a hike, kid. lol Although they acted rude towards me, I too was being a knucklehead, and they obviously had enough compassion to throw the money at me. It was actually an hilarious scene that I'll never forget. But I'm actually grateful to the weird way in which they were rude because after all I was able to go home. XD
it's good to show both sides, totally clicked on the video because of the thumbnail, you are positively glowing grrrrrl! shoutout to jordan for being onpoint with all the things too! stay safe and awesome guys.
Team Humble she is so ridiculously pretty yes the glow is real ✨✨😍
Nice information. My wife & I visit Panama often because that is where she comes from. My wife eats, sleeps & drinks Panama. We once visited a jungle park (Parqué National) outside Panama City. I asked (in Spanish) the clerk who sold us the tickets if there were any snakes in the park; she shook her head no. I thought she wasn't entirely truthful; so I asked her in Spanish if there were any Fer de Lance (really bad snakes!!!). Incredible fear washed over her face. She could barely nod yes. Then she regained her composure and told us that if we stayed on the hiking path to the top of the small mountain (or hill) we would be safe. I would love to travel to the Darien Gap. My wife will not allow me to go there. Even she is filled with fear. An American missionary couple disappeared without a trace more than 60-years-ago.
Sorry but pot is still illegal in the vast majority of the United States (as in all of it) due to Federal Law.
sounds like a crazy place with gringo prices and the possibility of getting framed with Marijuana and going to prison. Its sounds ridiculous that you have to hire a lawyer just to navigate the ever changing rules.
You don't. They just don't know what they are doing. They are newbies and will keep learning.
I really like your stories about setting up a new life in Panama. I cannot watch you driving around without wearing seatbelts. You are smart people. Please wear them. It is not worth the risk. Just ask an Emergency Care doctor about the injuries caused in accidents to people not wearing a seatbelt. It might change your thinking. Please. You know it is common sense.
So why did you guys leave Costa Rica?
my guess cheaper to live in Panama
I'm curious as well. I've been considering retiring to Costa rica, I've heard it's one of the best places to retire to.
Mike t oh, it’s sold that way.
Alot more crime in costa rica
Panama is cheaper, that's why
Presumably, you are there to offer your hard work for humanitarian causes and make a better world, and not just a couple of spoiled brats with money to waste on a self indulgent joyride through life.
I've lived in China and Thailand, I'm a US ex-pat. Most of what you're describing is common to all countries. From what you said, Thailand is cheaper than Panama and Thailand has medical marijuana. I considered Panama before ending up in Thailand. Cheers
Passport documentation is a hassle EVERYWHERE. Paperwork is a hassle EVERYWHERE.
Right, but as an international airline pilot, I can share with you that quite often countries do not stamp your passport and if they do not, it is not proper to hold the visitor accountable. This is despicable and backwards.
Eh, no.. 🇸🇪 😉
Not really.over the past 30 years, I have traveled from the u.s. to Canada, much of Europe, Australia, Japan and have never had a passport or documentation problem. ever
govt in general harrase, bully intimidate, lie and exort ....basically planet Earth.....printing fiat paper with ink printed on it ...used to create debt ....or making it up out of thin air ,....we have all worked their games out now ...
What I’m genuinely wondering about is how do the locals react when you walk about in very revealing clothes? 🤔
I can do as I please in Canada, but when I was in Mexico and Costa Rica I didn’t wear a bikini nor went bra less outside of the beach areas, as it seemed to me like the local ladies were modest. I also made sure I learned basic Spanish so I would not assume anyone would understand English or French.
I haven’t been to South America yet, so I’m curious how’s the dress code day to day - especially when you venture out by yourself without a man?
Panama City Panama is a very sexy city and as soon as you land and go thru customs the airport is filled with billboards of very sexy ads with women not wearing much. Won't be a problem wearing whatever you want Panama is very diverse with many cultures from all over the World. There are many freelance escorts from all over South America and Caribbean that travel to Panama for 3 months to work and save money and they are about 24/7. However if you dress super sexy you will be cat called by local construction workers tourist ect. Local men wear pants during the day and button up shirts and professional women dress in black nice fitting pants and nice shirts. But South American men definitely like North American women so you may get a lot of attention. Maybe dress modest if you go out yourself and if with boyfriend ect dress however. Panama City is a bit like Vegas or Miami in some ways. People won't really care how you dress in most situations locals may crack jokes or give a funny look maybe get jealous because they are working for a low wage and there are tons of rich forigen people living and vacation in Panama doing and dressing however they please. It's a unique country with just about everything won't be as traditional as Mexico ect.
She is not wearing anything revealing, it is normal here. Hot weather.
omg your dog lola is SUCH a cutie, i love seein her little face looking out the window in the back as you guys drive hahaha
Here is a small advice from Eastern Europe: the system by and large does not work precisely it is just copied off from somewhere in the case of Panama maybe the US or Spain. Your attitude of trying to find German or American style precision in laws and customs will get you into situations where corrupt people can extort money from you. For example, with the passport if you stay like that until you exit and enter the country again nobody probably notices.
Being under "Napoleonic Coding" does not mean lack of presumption of innocence. As a matter of fact presumption of innocence is written into the constitution of the country (Art 22) , and in fact this protection extends in EQUAL STANDING to foreigners in Panama (Art 20). Coded laws means that JUDGES have DISCRETIONARY LIMITATIONS based on LAWS... instead of having to be based on precedent. These two things make a stark contrast with other systems in which an unprecendented case is a blank slate not only for a judge to decide whatever he thinks it is right, but also causes that one man decision to become precedent. That being said, I am not promoting one system over the other... all human organizations are inherently flawed because they are made by humans who are themselves imperfect. I am just saying that it is not true that the burden of proof falls on the accused. I am not a lawyer, but I am sure you can ask one of the many lawyers in Panama and they will corroborate this.
Chasing the endless summer and finding the same old downers
Thanks guys. About halfway through your video, I was convinced. Panama is definitely off of my list! I appreciate you being so honest about it. Good luck to you both.
So, gotta ask, how's the whole me too movement going in Panama?
Hahahaha oh man! That's a good question! ^^
I'm pretty sure in all third world countries they are still in the "you too?!" movement.
@This isn't where I parked my car Indeed!
@This isn't where I parked my car Spoken like an old, white dude
What fucking movement hahahahaha
The Gringo price happens in a lot of countries: India, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. #FirstWorldProblems I'm usually happy to pay the foreigner price just because for us it's inconsequential but for the seller, it's a big deal. I love to let people think they ripped me off by me paying an extra $3 for t-shirt. Makes them feel good and I don't get hurt.
I wish I can put more than 1 like for you guys, my fiance from Panama, we living now in Istanbul, Turkey, and I'm doing research for move to Panama, your vlogs help me a lot, thanks.
I noticed you guys were smiling a lot. One day I'll go back to Panama for a much longer stay. Good video.
One TIP dear ....... move back to where ever you came from. When you move to a foreign country / place, comply with local culture and laws.
don't listen to this guy lol. Clearly he didn't understand anything on this video since they never said they didn't want to comply with laws. In fact, they said they wish they could know the laws MORE to keep complying with them. But Panama is such as unorganized country that their laws change so much not even their government employees know them accurately, hence why the attorney had to call the lady at customs.
@beautiful boombap I guess it all depends on perspective and personality. If you are risk averse and prefer to live comfortably in what is already familiar and safe, than go ahead. But there's literally thousands of people that migrate to other countries where the positives outweigh the cons/risks.
This people are American's idiot. They all know how to comply with the law because they have real laws in America!!
Antonio Pinheiro Pires That would apply equally to South Americans who come to our country. We’d prefer you all go back to where you came from. English is our national language. It’s illegal to drive drunk or without a license here. Our social safety systems were enacted for those who paid in.
Antonio should be a bit more welcoming they didnt say Panama sucks.
Some people don’t know the definition of expat in these comments 😂
A fancy word for an immigrant.
I entered the US with my mom once (we are not American citizens) and then we had to go back to the airport to get our stamps and I-94 forms redone correctly. They switched up the passports. It happens, people make mistakes. They fixed it.
Pros and Cons like everywhere in the world. If you can deal with the bad you can enjoy the good, so be always mindful of cons and balance it. Saludos desde Chiriquí ❤🇵🇦
Ah , to be young ,,, After your "cons" I have no desire to go live there . Just the legal system is enough to make me reconsider.
EVERYTHING they are moving there for can be had in America.
Don't worry, their rich parents would bail them out of trouble.
@@garyanderson9467 That is likely what is at play here, which renders them irrelevant.
Some of the problems is the way that government stilling money from people, that is something commonly happen in Latin America.
You two are so awesome. I'm really not sure how I found your channel, but I sure am glad I did.
Of course we wont get to see the nasty breakup & him loose everything or end up in jail.....she's American, depressed w anxiety.
I love that you shared the realistic parts of Panama.
I was born in Panama and yes, I speak Spanish. I just feel like if you upload a video related to Panama, it would get at least 8 views; but when someone uploads a video about really known countries such as USA or Canada, it would get lot of views. The only reason people know Panama, is because of the canal and the World Youth Day.