7 Things We DON'T LIKE About Living in Panama // Expats in Boquete

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  • @miguelgonzalez6213
    @miguelgonzalez6213 Год назад +42

    As someone who has visited more than half of the US and quite a few countries, friendly and not-so friendly, I'd say that the best way to avoid getting into trouble anywhere is to not act like you're special because you were initially a US citizen. Just be open-minded and always willing to learn the local customs and laws, without acting as if they should all be bent because (once again) you were born in the USA. While in the military, I always used to get compliments such as, "You don't act like an American." which I always took as one of the highest compliments I could receive from a foreign host.

    • @PatJones-jz9rs
      @PatJones-jz9rs 4 месяца назад +3

      DITTO.
      I was allowed in German clubs because "You don't cause trouble!"
      Being respectful and responsible goesa long ways.
      Remember, each of us are Ambassadors of Our homeland!

    • @abcall-timesboxingchanneln7076
      @abcall-timesboxingchanneln7076 2 месяца назад

      These kids are entitled and just are upset because they had to hire Panama people and there business model crashed and burned. Like most so called influencers they only think what is important can be seen with their selfie stick while filming themselves. They just exploit their sponsors and followers who have no discernment.

    • @atthehousepublishing-glora5375
      @atthehousepublishing-glora5375 Месяц назад

      Very well said.

    • @ScheneekaAIKENS
      @ScheneekaAIKENS 5 дней назад +1

      That's not a compliment, dude.

  • @RoadTr
    @RoadTr 4 года назад +269

    I lived in Panama Five years I have 100 of stories just like their ten. One of my favorites was the day that most of the one way roads changed to the opposite direction, but none of the signs changed. Yes that really happened.

    • @josedv01
      @josedv01 4 года назад +8

      hehe, also that happened to me, I didnt know and I was thinking that everybody gets crazy on the street.

    • @guillermogouldburn763
      @guillermogouldburn763 4 года назад +8

      It's only for rush hour, and traffic cops are always posted on such streets. Hey, at least you didn't have to drive on the left side of the road.
      😉

    • @dawnroagain
      @dawnroagain 4 года назад +5

      Like @ Carnivale? True, but expected and quite temporary. If you are a local, you know. If tourist, you SHOULD know.

    • @patrickvanmeter2922
      @patrickvanmeter2922 4 года назад +11

      I could tell you all kinds of nightmares living in Mexico. The good part, 20 bucks usually takes care of most problems.

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 4 года назад +1

      @@patrickvanmeter2922 haha

  • @davidwelch5186
    @davidwelch5186 Год назад +4

    Where I shop, sometimes on the street, I always tip good. The people are poor, and I appreciate being able to help them.

  • @rmart74
    @rmart74 2 года назад +9

    I am a Panamanian living in Florida. Father was in the military and I was born and raised in Panama. More than half my family lives there so I go back quite a bit. With that said, you are right. Those things do exist. The “gringo- price” has been in effect ever since the Torrijos - Jimmy Carter treaty. Southern Command (southcom) was established in Panama which was a strategic military hold to “monitor” central and South America. With that, the “gringo - price” came into full effect. Even though the treaty came to an end on 12/31/1999 the price gouging for Americans continues as there are still many Americans there and they continue to go there as there retirement destination from the states. All in all, I love my country and made sure I new every nook and cranny of Panama before I left to travel the world. I am sure you will absolutely fall in love with Panama. Enjoy!

  • @wmmseo
    @wmmseo 3 года назад +13

    I love it when you guys say "only $60 for this airbnb" while I sit in my Manila Airbnb right on Manila Bay for $25 :)

  • @flowbrandz316
    @flowbrandz316 3 года назад +134

    "Innocent until proven guilty" hasn't existed in the real in America for sometime.

    • @sethmiller6128
      @sethmiller6128 2 года назад +4

      Thank you that is 100 percent true I lost everything beacuse my neibor filed a restraining order against me and I had 20 minets to get out my house the police forced me out and I was homless during the worst part of covid 19 and I lost my place cuse I had nowhere to go

    • @santagemma6212
      @santagemma6212 2 года назад +1

      They changed system to SPA, a guarantist system abused by criminals in which they get away with.

    • @kyler565
      @kyler565 Год назад

      If your a Democrat politician you won't even be investigated

    • @flowbrandz316
      @flowbrandz316 Год назад

      @@kyler565 True

    • @tunatony
      @tunatony Год назад +4

      @@sethmiller6128 Sorry to hear...but did you deserve the restraining order? It's not easy to get one...

  • @phillipst-laurent3466
    @phillipst-laurent3466 4 года назад +108

    Best part of the video: "We are trying to follow all the rules" (0.5 seconds later) "I'm driving up on the curb"

    • @surfalia1
      @surfalia1 3 года назад +4

      And neither are wearing their seatbelts in this video......illegal 🤪

    • @lastplace2905
      @lastplace2905 3 года назад

      Lmao

    • @dongarrett7595
      @dongarrett7595 3 года назад

      do you know that for sure in Panama?

    • @surfalia1
      @surfalia1 3 года назад +3

      @@dongarrett7595 in regards to seatbelts?? Yes. Driver and front seat passenger.

    • @SofritoGr
      @SofritoGr 3 года назад

      Hahahahahahahha

  • @GaryEllis
    @GaryEllis 4 года назад +13

    My wife and I lived in Mexico for 4 years. It was exactly there what you are explaining for Panama. I'm looking forward to receiving the coffee I ordered from you nearly a month ago. But, I'm sure it will be delicious when I do.

  • @michelletracy9098
    @michelletracy9098 3 года назад +19

    Love your videos, it is amazing so many people will leave a nasty comment or act so ricious... Keep up the positive work and videos , My husband and I moved to Panama last November we did all the research and educated ourselves however ,like you know once your in it things come up and yes you live and learn that is part of life anywhere in world. We just rolled all the I've and learns off our shoulder and know we are just happy to be alive and healthy. We happened to be back home in US when everything hit and have yet been able to make it back, but we can't wait to be back as we bought our new home there. Keep it up you guys rock

    • @ThisTall
      @ThisTall 2 года назад +1

      You guys happen to make it back yet?

  • @janmoline
    @janmoline 4 года назад +23

    Totally get it! It is very helpful to any one thinking of traveling or moving to Panama to have realistic expectations. Most are not expecting perfection but it's very helpful to hear about exactly what you two have experienced. Sure I know you are generally very positive and upbeat and I love that you share that and point out the wonderful culture and beautiful, kind, helpful people. It's a good really check to cover these 7 things in the one video, keeping it real, yet showing us things to be mindful and careful about. Great job!!!

  • @bellebb8673
    @bellebb8673 2 года назад +18

    I had an idylic childhood in Panama 55 years ago in the Canal Zone as a military dependent. I guess it was pretty colonial in some ways, but for a kid it was just paradise.

  • @jackmay6685
    @jackmay6685 2 года назад +3

    I lived in Panama for 3 plus years. I shake my head and grin listening to these videos.

  • @bambinobala7713
    @bambinobala7713 4 года назад +14

    I am Panamanian. I enjoyed your video. I lived in the states for many years. My wife and I decided to move a little further south. We are now living in Medellin Colombia. We had to relearn many things and be patient; especially at banks and the slow moving cashier checkout. Enjoy and keep us informed. Blessings!

  • @glam2luxeonline951
    @glam2luxeonline951 4 года назад +231

    I live in panama and you have to be very careful! Although panama is amazing their are a lot of people
    Including “lawyers” who take advantage of Americans!! Especially “gringos”

    • @ganymeade5151
      @ganymeade5151 4 года назад +18

      Many beautiful women want rich Gringo husbands and they know how to grab your heart and get your money fast.

    • @ivancampbell8123
      @ivancampbell8123 4 года назад +3

      What part of Panama do you live??? I am a Panamanian live in in Boston Mass

    • @alyssatorres5897
      @alyssatorres5897 4 года назад

      Ivan Campbell They have a whole video about it, they live in Boquete.

    • @ivancampbell8123
      @ivancampbell8123 4 года назад +1

      @@alyssatorres5897 i saw the video Alyssa i am.a local born in Panama living in Boston on my next trip to Panama i would lime to visit Contadora Island and the Anton Village.

    • @sandydegener6436
      @sandydegener6436 4 года назад +8

      "Gringo" and "American" are the same thing.

  • @chattychickadee4192
    @chattychickadee4192 4 года назад +10

    Great video! I lived in the South Pacific coast of Costa Rica for 4 years and you are spot on. I loved living there but definitely got tired of some things. Mainly the petty crime and being charged more at every turn.

  • @sgd5k292
    @sgd5k292 4 года назад +11

    I was in Panama on business back in the 70s and was offered a full time job by the Panamanian company that I was contracted with. They had Americans working there and they said it was an excellent company to work for and one of the reasons, besides good pay, is you did not need health insurance as the company took care of their employees no matter what had happened. Those days, Americans were not really liked, but once I told them who I worked for, their attitudes became very friendly. Also, the Americans told me it really was not a place they would raise their children. At that time, I had no children in the 7 years of marriage, but was now looking to start a family, so that was a big reason I did not take the job which was in aviation. It may all be different now. Hope it all works out for you two!

  • @jamesmcqueen2618
    @jamesmcqueen2618 3 года назад +4

    I was in Panama for two years in the military. I was a bus driver for Fort Gulic and I really loved the place. I only got to see mostly military places because I was not and adventurer and stayed close to Fort Gulic. I did go into Colon several time to see a floor show and have a few dirnks but that was all. I got to drive troupes to differenty Air Ports and drive to Panama City etc. But all i can say is i loved the place and the weather. The food i had was better than my mother home cooking. Most of the meals I ate was prepaired by millitary cooks on the base. I also got to see Fort Sand Loranzo, I'm sure I have missed spelled it because I could never spell. The birds are beautiful , they are all colors. Have a good time but I'm staying in the United States, I love it to.

  • @aisaasvat8791
    @aisaasvat8791 4 года назад +69

    I am panamenian. Almost everything you do not like about Panama is true.
    The thing about being guilty before a trial is not true. We just changed the judicial system. You go swiftly in front of a judge who will decide your fate.
    That is not being guilty before you prove you are inocent. They need to prove you are guilty.

    • @MrAmhara
      @MrAmhara 4 года назад +11

      She is White and resents darkskin people judging her. Typical White person.

    • @miar.4507
      @miar.4507 4 года назад +31

      @@MrAmhara ohhhh STOP!! please. I'm from Panama and I don't feel like she descrinating anybody. Beside most of the things she said are true. People in Pma always wanted to take advantage of the tourist by raising the price on everything. Now don't tell me you dont know that.

    • @guillermogouldburn763
      @guillermogouldburn763 4 года назад +11

      @@miar.4507 Only Panama though? You ever been to France or Italy? I haven't seen anybody trying to slip a bracelet on their wrist then ask for 20 dollars yet.

    • @rafaeldiaz9750
      @rafaeldiaz9750 4 года назад +3

      Thanks I was just about to comment the same.

    • @CRAPO2011
      @CRAPO2011 4 года назад +2

      @@miar.4507 Very true , especially the yellow cabs eres Panamena?

  • @pieceofpie5495
    @pieceofpie5495 4 года назад

    My dad worked as a sea fearer and would often talk about the Panama Canal, its really is huge from the way you captured it in the video!

  • @dave3657
    @dave3657 3 года назад +52

    The fact that you need an attorney on speed dial is reason enough not to move there.

    • @sethmiller6128
      @sethmiller6128 2 года назад

      Maybe attermy is super cheap

    • @monicadupree7928
      @monicadupree7928 2 года назад +3

      Right that's crazy it's nothing wrong to live in another country, but one with no organization, guidance, & workers lying to make it hard for you to take care of your business trying to get settled in moving there is a headache. I'll be back in the U.S @ least we got structure. They dont want Americans over there. They ripping off Americans... & she talking about she got anxiety & depression problems she needs to think about that...

    • @vitocorleone8323
      @vitocorleone8323 2 года назад

      @@monicadupree7928 I know it's never a good idea to lie but I'm tempted to ask when in less formal situations might it be easier just to say you're Canadian or if you're Irish American just say I'm Irish. I'd imagine there's bad feelings towards Americans due to the military invasion years ago. I heard a lot more people died than we were told. Not sure if that's true but I would rather not tell them where I'm from.

    • @weirdnomad8868
      @weirdnomad8868 2 года назад

      Yup, that's my thought

    • @kattyk6370
      @kattyk6370 2 года назад

      @@vitocorleone8323 Not at all,Sir...that is what you've heard.I'm Panamenian and for some reason this rumors go around(check Historical facts,🇺🇸 had help Panama to become how it is)so we a ever grateful.

  • @daveyboy412
    @daveyboy412 4 года назад +4

    Nice channel! Bienvenidos a Panama. I'm an American Expat living and working in Panama City. You are right that you need to double check all legal paperwork and it is tedious. When you start building the tiny homes, you will need to double check that the the quantity & quality the materials you order and the finishes on the contractor's work. In general, standards are different to what you are used to so you will need to be forceful and direct to make sure the jobs are done right. Don't feel bad for demanding what you are paying for. ALSO, there is recycling in Panama, its just not done publicly like trash collection or water. Grocery stores like Riba Smith and even private business have recycling, like at my office building, MMG Tower. If you drink beer, you can buy a case (literally a plastic case) of Panama or Balboa at local store (bodega/chinito) and when your done with 'em, you bring the case and the empty bottles back and you buy new beers minus the price of the case. Ask around about recycling but the best thing you can do is not use non-necessary plastic. Looking forward to the next videos! Abrazo.

  • @ullakoponen2632
    @ullakoponen2632 4 года назад +13

    Many of these things are similar in Mexico. During my 25 years here they have been changing quite much though and my advantage is that I have been a Mexican for over 12 years now. Living in a climate like yours at the Caribbean for 18 now and planning on a homestead

    • @ganymeade5151
      @ganymeade5151 4 года назад +2

      You are Mexican so you have the advantage. Different when a Gringo.

  • @TravelingisFREEDOM
    @TravelingisFREEDOM 3 года назад +7

    This seems to be an interesting place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future when all this is over. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much!

    • @santagemma6212
      @santagemma6212 2 года назад +2

      Visit Coiba Archipelago, swim with friendly reef sharks and turtles. You'll love it. I've done it many times.

    • @santagemma6212
      @santagemma6212 2 года назад +1

      Now they legalized medical use of marihuana recently. Panama is a conservative country. Take that into account. But many people aren't and no one minds.

    • @vleiravls5653
      @vleiravls5653 2 года назад

      Panama is interesting but very corrupt. But it's definitely a place that you should visit and if you do make sure to visit Cerro Punta, pedasi, and colon.

    • @santagemma6212
      @santagemma6212 2 года назад

      @@vleiravls5653 make sure you add Coiba Islands Archipelago, a natural reserve where you dive to where harmless coral reef sharks stay at the bottom.

  • @drizzeydrazz335
    @drizzeydrazz335 3 года назад +3

    omg your dog lola is SUCH a cutie, i love seein her little face looking out the window in the back as you guys drive hahaha

  • @ronbelisle
    @ronbelisle 4 года назад +4

    Thanks guys. Like you said, there is no perfect place and it is good to know the imperfect side of things.

  • @wildandwonderful7069
    @wildandwonderful7069 4 года назад +14

    In Peru I eventually came to the conclusion usually gringo prices aren't that bad. As an American who appreciates skill, I dont overpay unskilled taxis but usually happily give hardworking people like small family restaurants or craftsmen more than locals pay. Doctors or nurses I ALWAYS tip heavy. Over 10$ for a doctor who charged me $4 for a visit and knew his field.

  • @jafleetwood9714
    @jafleetwood9714 Год назад +1

    I love that you shared the realistic parts of Panama.

  • @marksr12
    @marksr12 2 года назад +1

    These guys always make me smile! Love them!!

  • @Cait060
    @Cait060 4 года назад +8

    #1!!!! again. i love your guys style and living! keep your heads up and living how your guys want!

  • @passporttrucker9280
    @passporttrucker9280 4 года назад +3

    I noticed you guys were smiling a lot. One day I'll go back to Panama for a much longer stay. Good video.

  • @dougstewart3243
    @dougstewart3243 4 года назад +9

    Chasing the endless summer and finding the same old downers

  • @deropol05
    @deropol05 4 года назад +36

    First rules of foriegn travel......wear sun glasses, , keep your mouth shut , and dont expect them to cater to you, speak the language, Then you can enjoy !

    • @entraunes
      @entraunes 4 года назад +1

      Totally agree 👍 discret attitude everywhere in the world is gold !

    • @StanleyHoffmann
      @StanleyHoffmann 3 года назад +5

      If only visitors to the US would do the same.

    • @PatJones-jz9rs
      @PatJones-jz9rs 4 месяца назад +1

      Of course, learning a foreign language is easy. 😂
      If it was so easy to learn a foreign language every illegal immigrant would be fluent in inglés...

    • @paripatang9403
      @paripatang9403 3 месяца назад

      ​@StanleyHoffmann they do. However the neverending tirade against them, just for merely existing, will never go away.

  • @penelopebarrett6505
    @penelopebarrett6505 3 года назад +3

    Guys, except for a few months during the quarantine, there's always been recycling in Boquete. At least for the last 18 years that I've been here.

  • @isthisforreal7731
    @isthisforreal7731 4 года назад +5

    You two are so awesome. I'm really not sure how I found your channel, but I sure am glad I did.

    • @SaulGoodmun
      @SaulGoodmun 4 года назад +1

      Of course we wont get to see the nasty breakup & him loose everything or end up in jail.....she's American, depressed w anxiety.

  • @Aco747lyte
    @Aco747lyte 4 года назад

    Thank you for making such an informative video - not that I will be going to Panama any time! I hope for your safety you have since left Panama and found a safer place to live. You remain in my prayers. *Hugs*

  • @bravelizard494
    @bravelizard494 2 года назад +1

    I’m researching Panama for a story I’m writing. My family is in Panama. Thank you for the video.

  • @papi7672
    @papi7672 4 года назад +43

    You are totally right you will never find a perfect place where things are always right. I have lived in 30 states out of the 50 and in each state I have found things that I don't like and in few of them I just could not live there. In Panama you need to use your savvy to get around and the country is currently going through some changes for the better I would say. The constitution is being revised to give the people more right to decide about the country's future and the well being of the population. Also, people in the country side are so different from the one's from the city. Keep in mind Panama's population is very diverse. There are people from every corner of the world in this small, but beautiful country.

    • @angelinasouren
      @angelinasouren 4 года назад +3

      Countries are like people. They all have their bad things, but some of those things you can put up with or even find endearing while others... not so much. But the good stuff, oh man, the good stuff can make up for so much not so good stuff.

    • @marilynnarnold811
      @marilynnarnold811 4 года назад

      How are the country side people so different from city people???

    • @donamills863
      @donamills863 2 года назад +1

      Except that in every state you can do things online, by mail or on the phone including buying a home. Try buying a home in Panama and see how many attorneys, banks, notaries etc you’d have to stand in line for each document.

  • @Alisanchez28
    @Alisanchez28 4 года назад +26

    OMG I started watching your videos a few days ago and just realized that you are from Massachusetts. I’m a Panamanian living in Massachusetts for 11 years and went trough the same experience but in the opposite way. I’m falling in love again with my country watching your videos. Saludos y buena suerte

    • @marylally693
      @marylally693 2 года назад

      Are they from MA? Wow I wouldn't have thought so because they don't have a Massachusetts accent.

  • @terijackson6408
    @terijackson6408 3 года назад +1

    I lived at Ft Clayton off the Mira Flores Locks from 95-98. My daughter was born at Patilia hospital in Panama City. We loved it so much we didn’t want to move home to the states. Now I’m 48, my BFF and I want to go back to visit and possibly buy land/property there. Your videos make me homesick for it so much! One day we will get down there and hopefully get to meet y’all! Been here since the beginning of your journey and it’s just so cool watching you guys make your homestead there. The envy is Huge 😂😂😂 much love and blessings guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @janvas7690
    @janvas7690 2 года назад

    Love you guys thanks for the info!

  • @cesararias7023
    @cesararias7023 4 года назад +6

    The "gringo price" you mention is actually a "foreigner price" which I as a Panamanian oppose and have talked against it many times with many fellow-people, most of them taxi drivers. But as you pointed-out, one good thing we Panamanians have is that we are reasonable enough to back down and charge a fair price when confronted with saavy foreigners like you two.

    • @crmowrey
      @crmowrey 4 года назад +1

      A veces, pero no es siempre.

  • @lkm5462
    @lkm5462 4 года назад +150

    Do you speak fluent Spanish ? That will change a lot of things, if you do.

    • @fanfare100
      @fanfare100 4 года назад +45

      If they're serious they should definitely learn Spanish and the local customs and courtesies.

    • @I.O.M.
      @I.O.M. 4 года назад

      fanfare100 n

    • @ganymeade5151
      @ganymeade5151 4 года назад +16

      Just as if you speak fluent English up here and know the culture and customs; very helpful to get respect and much better treatment.

    • @woodatwork6927
      @woodatwork6927 4 года назад +11

      Lk M I was born and grew up in South America. Speak fluent Spanish, it was the only country and home I ever knew, but I’m white and of European decent, and experienced every one of the things that these people don’t like about Panama. If you’re white, the vast majority will see and treat you as a gringo and outsider. It’s a way of life. If there is a bit more money to be made, why not. The only way to do well in Latino culture is to be vigilant and start thinking like they do. Negotiate your taxi fare before you leave. Then be generous with your tip and you’ll make friends for life. I love the Latino culture. The thing I miss most here in Canada.

    • @akdrzllol594
      @akdrzllol594 4 года назад +2

      Lk M I can speak a bit of Spanish and I love Panama I’ve been there twice

  • @mattiegtv1731
    @mattiegtv1731 2 года назад

    Love the video. I'm flying there tomorrow.
    Very helpful video. Thanks again

  • @parkerbolt4233
    @parkerbolt4233 Год назад

    This video is super helpful! Thank you for sharing the pitfalls to watch out for

  • @oscarsaenz5903
    @oscarsaenz5903 4 года назад +4

    I feel very bad when I have to hear all these kinds of things about my country Panama ... I do not intend to contradict them, because everything they say is true ... However, I hope to hug you a little with these words ... I think you are an amazing couple and I admire the courage in facing challenges like leaving your home and adopting this piece of land as yours.

  • @eddieventures
    @eddieventures 4 года назад +6

    Hey Guys, thanks for the info. Glad to see you all are moving along with your dreams. The legal system is a little scary! Be careful with the CBD if you continue with it. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! Eddie

  • @bobbrown5529
    @bobbrown5529 2 года назад

    OK , you have now got me hooked . I have been watching for just about a month & I like what I see , the build of your home , the people you know . & call your friends . I think you have a fairly big piece of paradise . thank you . aussie bob

  • @et9093
    @et9093 3 года назад

    This definitely helps a lot, thanks!!

  • @honeychick4ever
    @honeychick4ever 3 года назад +39

    A gringos perspective😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @iiLoveAutumn
      @iiLoveAutumn 2 года назад +3

      At least, there's no human trafficking at gringo roads :].

    • @iiLoveAutumn
      @iiLoveAutumn 2 года назад +1

      Oh and don't forget the authorities of yours once they get questioned about mysterious "accidents" just like the "gringo hollandesas" 🙈🙉🙊

    • @mikerivas9091
      @mikerivas9091 2 года назад +1

      @@iiLoveAutumn did you see the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict?

    • @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist
      @StevenGrahamHypnotherapist 2 года назад +1

      A Gringo’s perspective? Yeah… great insights for other Gringos. 😁

    • @matthowell8985
      @matthowell8985 2 года назад +2

      Do you take offense to them having an opinion or them being white? Everyone should have the freedom of an opinion and none of us have control over our predetermined ethnicity. I think a better word for you to use here would have been Foreigner.

  • @jlvandat69
    @jlvandat69 4 года назад +15

    This was a very interesting and helpful video- thank you! One note about CBD and your trouble with anxiety & depression.... I struggled with mild depression for years, but 5 years ago began meditation (seriously) and I have had no significant symptoms of depression since. I have had mild anxiety at times (generally situational) and can always rely on meditation to provide relief. Best wishes to you both- and thanks again for your very thoughtful video.

    • @ganymeade5151
      @ganymeade5151 4 года назад

      Stress and anxiety are part of life and it is normal to feel that way with all the pressures of work; making enough money; paying college loans, mortgage, car, food, medical expenses, child care and education, etc. You cannot avoid stress, anxiety, pain, and depression. You have to learn to deal with all of it.

    • @woodatwork6927
      @woodatwork6927 4 года назад

      Gany Meade
      In Canada less anxiety and depression since we don’t have medical expenses and college loans.

    • @julie.66
      @julie.66 6 месяцев назад +1

      i agreeee..thanks for giving this advice to this lady. it did the same to me (bit i focus on chakras solfegik sounds,tibetan bowl etc not silent meditation)it helped sooo much...and i only tried CBD twice(two brands,in teas)it never did what meditating did...omg i wouldnt even pay for it each day(bit at least it works for this lady❤)

    • @jlvandat69
      @jlvandat69 6 месяцев назад

      @@julie.66 👍👍

  • @lr1674
    @lr1674 4 года назад

    I wish I can put more than 1 like for you guys, my fiance from Panama, we living now in Istanbul, Turkey, and I'm doing research for move to Panama, your vlogs help me a lot, thanks.

  • @beerbitch20001
    @beerbitch20001 3 года назад

    Love you two!! Thanks for the info

  • @johncasoni4379
    @johncasoni4379 4 года назад +6

    Took two simple bus rides in Malta and both times they tried to charge extra.

  • @ryanrichards7056
    @ryanrichards7056 4 года назад +6

    As an American, living in South America since 1980, I have met a lot of dreamers who are clueless about life here. You are in a DIFFERENT WORLD. Most of these dreamers focus on nonsense, not on reality. And that is, How do you become a Legal Resident? And that will determine if you can Legally Work. Without this legal status you are just another illegal alien.

  • @lehnladakh
    @lehnladakh 4 года назад

    Thanks for the insight, knowing what we do not know, is just as important.

  • @atthehousepublishing-glora5375
    @atthehousepublishing-glora5375 Месяц назад

    Thanks! The VPN information is great!

  • @orangehoof
    @orangehoof 4 года назад +10

    Welcome to Panama. I moved in August 2019 and live in the mountains. I would not have been able to survive the heat, humidity and mosquitoes of the rest of Panama for very long. But keep in mind, you are a guest here. There will be situations where you will be taken advantage of because they will see you as a "rich American". Take it in stride or go elsewhere. IMO, it's a mild annoyance, no worse than the heat. If you have not already, LEARN SPANISH. A whole new world opens up to you here if you can speak the language. Best wishes and Happy Holidays. Dios te bendiga.

    • @ADFDGGE
      @ADFDGGE 4 года назад

      there are no chicas, or entertainment what so ever in the mountains and power outages are way to frequent! Security is an issue and i could see myself only living in the capital in a high rise with tight security. The government of Panama failed miserably in all layers. Panama is now a failed state and your security is no longer guaranteed. However it is paradise for crime lords because everything and everybody is for sale. Panama is one of these countries that cornered themselves in an economic chaos and it has no way out because the population lacks education / discipline and ethics. People living in the countryside of latin america need most likely an AK 47 for personal protection.

    • @jayhenry3709
      @jayhenry3709 2 года назад +1

      Wow that was eye opening I was thinking about moving there in retirement

  • @back2paranormal
    @back2paranormal 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for sharing and wish you guys the best of luck.... I was looking at moving to Boquete at one point....but man, too many dangerous rules and regulations for me anyway.

    • @ganymeade5151
      @ganymeade5151 4 года назад

      Agree. America has given me very high expectations.

  • @grim_marqz3859
    @grim_marqz3859 4 года назад

    In Panama, you can find recycling stations but not recycling trucks. there are normally in buildings and a really famous one is outside of a supermarket in: Urbanización y Calle 1ra, Av Marina del Nte, Panama City

  • @santagemma6212
    @santagemma6212 2 года назад

    Thanks for informing what can be done better. May God bless you guys.

  • @teamhumble
    @teamhumble 4 года назад +7

    it's good to show both sides, totally clicked on the video because of the thumbnail, you are positively glowing grrrrrl! shoutout to jordan for being onpoint with all the things too! stay safe and awesome guys.

    • @bodybalancer
      @bodybalancer 4 года назад +1

      Team Humble she is so ridiculously pretty yes the glow is real ✨✨😍

  • @josephdunbar2105
    @josephdunbar2105 4 года назад +13

    “We’re trying to follow all the rules”......ooops, driving on the curb! You got this!.

  • @funnystories77
    @funnystories77 3 года назад

    I like the number #1 insight! It's an important issue and not often discussed

  • @jeffgratton6745
    @jeffgratton6745 7 месяцев назад

    Great info

  • @caitlinmcmanus5089
    @caitlinmcmanus5089 4 года назад +5

    Suggest that you become more observational about the ways that the locals dress. Then begin to imitate their dress. For Her, nothing off the shoulder, lose the shorts, tie it back. For him, shave and a haircut are in order. While you will still stick out like a sore thumb as gringos and rubes, it will be a little less so. Consider, you are so awfully loud that you were "marked" immediately on your very first entry and the grand paid for a lot of Christmas presents. Lower your profile, improve your odds.

  • @andrewmathewson441
    @andrewmathewson441 4 года назад +18

    Normally I really enjoy your vlogs. I have lived my life around the world as an ex-pat (both as a child and adult). One thing that was clear was that your experience demonstrates that those of us from the US have a certain expectation of treatment and engagement with a government body. It's just different outside of the US. Maybe what this vlog revealed was that you are breaking your own expectations as much as embracing the local community. Certainly, it can be frightening at times when you are in cultures that don't speak your language and your expectations are getting challenged if not shattered. I remember one time in India, the driver was going in the opposite direction of traffic at a high speed. He turned to me and just said to look down at my feet and he will take care of the rest. The experience of others is so worth it. I'm glad you are in Panama. Enjoy and good health.

    • @amiyrbarclift1640
      @amiyrbarclift1640 Год назад +1

      This is really important to understand. When moving to another country from America. As Americans we have certain expectations and if we wanted things to be the American way we need to stay in America. With every country there are pros and cons. This is good to hear anyway. As I am getting to closer to retirement. Panama is on my list of places to retire.

  • @lrn_news9171
    @lrn_news9171 Год назад +2

    One of the things I disliked when I went to Panama was the trash everywhere, there was trash along the roads, on the beaches etc... Panama isn't even a poor country and many poorer countries are cleaner. I wonder if they addressed this problem since 2017-2018.

  • @thebeautyofnatureandanimal1771

    Great info guys. Live and learn is all part of the fun. :) ouch on the $1000 fine. Sorry that happened to you.

  • @aladdinsane3523
    @aladdinsane3523 4 года назад +14

    I always appreciated the ability to give a cop $10 or $20 for any traffic violation while I lived there.

    • @sb3smiles310
      @sb3smiles310 4 года назад +1

      Right, # me 2😁

    • @myg6204
      @myg6204 4 года назад

      No longer easy to do this, be careful

    • @sandydegener6436
      @sandydegener6436 4 года назад +4

      Of COURSE! They allow you to pay traffic tickets right there on the spot. It saves people the hassle of having to go to traffic court the next day.

    • @johnmichaelkarma
      @johnmichaelkarma 4 года назад +1

      @@sandydegener6436 nothing quite like witnessing and participation in corruption at the lowest level. When ya really need a cop ya might have to pay them to do what they should do anyway,also.

    • @72timhall
      @72timhall 4 года назад +2

      @@johnmichaelkarma In Canada after a minor traffic ticket, information of the offence is sent to your insurance company. Rates will increase substantially for the next 3 years. Often +$1000.That is organized corruption. I like paying $10 in Mexico anyday

  • @robertbain3093
    @robertbain3093 4 года назад +44

    Panama recently banned all plastic bags. A step in the right direction.

    • @reginap942
      @reginap942 4 года назад +1

      What they shoud have banned or tax was the plastic boottles I, and most people I know re-use our grocery plastic bags.....Its all mafia...the new bags are made of corn seulae...big business for monsanto

    • @fanfare100
      @fanfare100 4 года назад +5

      That happened after a whole bunch of plastic garbage washed upon the shore in Panama and the majority of it appeared to have come from the U.S.. When it washed up it almost looked dystopian. It was quite the clean-up effort. And it was most certainly unfair. So Panama will take a baby step to do its part and no longer use plastic bags for groceries.

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 4 года назад

      Here in the U.S. as well now

    • @joeashbubemma
      @joeashbubemma 4 года назад +1

      LOL! And in the US, the CDC has found that recyclable bags carry the Covid 19 virus (among other pathogens), vs. plastic bags which are sterile. Banning shit isn't the answer. Knocking people over the head for littering, THAT'S the answer.

    • @bestduckyrblx2944
      @bestduckyrblx2944 3 года назад

      @@fanfare100 um no all that trash came from right here in Panama...

  • @peakbagger7682
    @peakbagger7682 4 года назад +1

    Nice information. My wife & I visit Panama often because that is where she comes from. My wife eats, sleeps & drinks Panama. We once visited a jungle park (Parqué National) outside Panama City. I asked (in Spanish) the clerk who sold us the tickets if there were any snakes in the park; she shook her head no. I thought she wasn't entirely truthful; so I asked her in Spanish if there were any Fer de Lance (really bad snakes!!!). Incredible fear washed over her face. She could barely nod yes. Then she regained her composure and told us that if we stayed on the hiking path to the top of the small mountain (or hill) we would be safe. I would love to travel to the Darien Gap. My wife will not allow me to go there. Even she is filled with fear. An American missionary couple disappeared without a trace more than 60-years-ago.

  • @giessel
    @giessel 4 года назад

    My husband and I are looking into moving to Panama this year. We are so excited!

  • @PoodleParti
    @PoodleParti 4 года назад +8

    I think other healthy oils probably work as well as cbd oil. People just don't get enough of it. Olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil. They all help relieve anxiety and give a good mood.
    About your bus, you could give it away and build a shed. I know you probably like to sit in it and remember where you've been in it though.
    Also, be generous with your gringo prices. It will come back to you some other way. The locals are not living the life you are.

    • @cherylmckiver2047
      @cherylmckiver2047 2 года назад

      I hope u keep your hair ,u look better..
      Your wife hair long 😍 I'm glad yall did land& living yall dream

  • @onemanandhisdog9
    @onemanandhisdog9 4 года назад +12

    No.9 Jordan's hair. It looks like a neck brace!

  • @cactustree07
    @cactustree07 3 года назад

    Useful information!

  • @wojciechzgodowski
    @wojciechzgodowski 3 года назад +2

    One of the things electricity is very expensive comparing to US. $0.11 per kilowatt hour in Florida VS $0.16 per kilowatt hour in Panama. If you only use air conditioning at night , evening and when sleeping in an average Small two bedroom apartment your utility bills will be $200-$250+- per month . If you leave air conditioning turned on at all times and you cook everyday on LPG you're looking at $500-$600+. Monthly utility bill.

  • @lucybecker8
    @lucybecker8 4 года назад +5

    Hey guys, great video. Given the scorpions and toads item, You ought to check into Vitamin C. It's a powerful antitoxin and anti-venom when taken in a high enough dose at frequent enough intervals. You can take it by mouth either as Ascorbic acid powder, capsules or as liposomal gel. (In emergency tablets are not ideal because they take too long to dissolve in the stomach.) I keep tons of powder around so I never run out. I used Vit C after a bee sting on my foot, the pain was terrible and getting worse, by the second. I popped a 1,000 mg Vit C with water, then 30 seconds later another because the pain didn't go down, then 30 seconds later another 1,000- I can't remember how often I did this, but I kept taking it every 30 to 60 seconds, always with water, until the pain went away. It was over in about 3 minutes. (You can take 2,000 every few seconds too, depending on the need. Once you start using it you get to know what your body needs. Even little kids can learn to titrate the amounts.) Usually a bee sting pain will go away in a few hours but you ache for days. This time, nothing. Except now I watch where I step with my bare feet. Here is a page from a website that tells you everything about Vitamin C. You'll need to jump around the site but the page on titration is good as well as the colds and flu page. Here is the venom page, but realize it's a doctor's summary and he injected it. Injection is fast and powerful but it can be mimicked by frequently taking Vitamin C by mouth. www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html

    • @granjmy
      @granjmy 11 месяцев назад

      That's a GREAT website! I use vitamin c as a stool softener.

  • @jrhamp
    @jrhamp 4 года назад +18

    Having had a house with three other surf guys some years ago in Tamarindo, CR..if you do not speak the language or willing to learn it..the problems are just magnified..and not worth the experience.
    Many people ex pats for example who retire in Panama or CR eventually return to the States due to medical related issues. Try USVI or BVI..easy, in-expensive if a local..easy to get there..water much cleaner and really clear...and if one doesn't like it..it is just 2 hours back to Fort Lauderdale or Orlando (r/t about $150. per person). Yes, CR or Panama has some nice attributes..but, the bureaucracy and language barriers make it a challenge sometimes

    • @randallford5584
      @randallford5584 2 года назад

      Being someone who’s been to all the above I really wouldn’t compare USVI/BVI to lil 🏄‍♂️ towns like Santa T, Tamarindo etc… come on.

  • @dash525
    @dash525 2 года назад

    Thank you so much and really appreciate your awesome perspective! Keep it happy!

  • @oldhardrock2542
    @oldhardrock2542 4 года назад +1

    I worked on a waste to energy project in Guatemala. We were looking at plastics especially as a fuel source to make heat to make steam to generate electricity. I researched the recycling of plastics. Huge efforts had been made to collect thousands of tons of plastic bottles etc but, it is only a tiny fraction of total usage meanibg much more ends up in rivers going to the oceans.
    Problem is, the recycling is basically a money losing effort. Costs more to collect, store and transport collected plastic than to make new plastic from oil.

    • @granjmy
      @granjmy 11 месяцев назад

      Doesn't it seem like nations would outlaw disposable plastics, if oil mnfg is such a climate problem?

  • @donnadee9857
    @donnadee9857 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the heads up. Would love the Airbnb info :)

  • @watchthis6789
    @watchthis6789 3 года назад +5

    I've watched 3 or 4 of your videos, and I have to ask, where do you get your money to travel all over and then to settle in Panama? Do you work along the way, or did you save a ton of money?
    I do enjoy your videos, thanks.

  • @jenniferhorton448
    @jenniferhorton448 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this. We are have permanent residency but haven’t moved over yet. We were very upset about the no recycling, they really need to up their game.

  • @hermitcard4494
    @hermitcard4494 Год назад +1

    Pros and Cons like everywhere in the world. If you can deal with the bad you can enjoy the good, so be always mindful of cons and balance it. Saludos desde Chiriquí ❤🇵🇦

  • @OStarman
    @OStarman 4 года назад +5

    Thanks guys. Good info. BTW - several of the Amazon linked pages go to ‘nothing found’.

  • @10efranco
    @10efranco 4 года назад +96

    Sorry, I just saw the beginning of the video, and as a lawyer I must say that you couldn’t be more wrong. Yes we have a napoleonic law system, but it is for civil law. For criminal law we have the accusatory criminal system, as opposed to the inquisitive criminal system that we use to have, but I must say that in both of those systems you were innocent until proven guilty. I have no idea where y’all getting that from

    • @mikedavies3592
      @mikedavies3592 4 года назад +15

      The lawyer who is playing them come on you know that, he is working both sides of the street and officials are getting a kick back. This is the way it is from Mexico all the way through. This is very draining on all levels

    • @10efranco
      @10efranco 4 года назад +10

      mike davies you are probably right

    • @mikedavies3592
      @mikedavies3592 4 года назад +7

      @@10efranco Thank you that response shows integrity

    • @seadog2396
      @seadog2396 4 года назад +8

      @@mikedavies3592 I totally agree. I enjoyed this channel for awhile, but became very disappointed when all this wide-eyed, adolescent naivete started about the promised land in Panama...

    • @seadog2396
      @seadog2396 4 года назад +5

      @chris younts Interesting observation. Right, the movie was Midnight-something, starring Brad-something. (No relation.)
      Truly, I didn't think younger adults were this naive in 2019 - but you never can tell..

  • @crutch2909
    @crutch2909 2 года назад

    Heyy guys..new subscriber..nice video

  • @michaelmcvey7813
    @michaelmcvey7813 4 года назад +1

    I am late to this party but enjoy your information, so thank you for sharing it. If I heard correctly on one of your videos you used to live in Coast Rica, might I ask why you left or do you have a video about it? It is one of the places I am considering.

  • @papajoe6254
    @papajoe6254 4 года назад +13

    "Irrational exuberance" is on display here. So nice to be young.

    • @guillermogouldburn763
      @guillermogouldburn763 4 года назад +2

      They are way below the average age in Boquete.

    • @johnchase4408
      @johnchase4408 4 года назад +1

      Yep

    • @shroomzftw
      @shroomzftw 4 года назад +2

      wait till they get in serious trouble .. it will happen

    • @jenjuice432
      @jenjuice432 4 года назад +5

      Look at all these miserable people in the comments like you. Hating on these two for following their dreams, writing them off as naive and privileged...don't be mad at them you never did anything interesting with your life and are unhappy.

    • @entraunes
      @entraunes 4 года назад +1

      @@shroomzftw l m really scared of that and they dont fuckin even realize it

  • @painfullyaware5221
    @painfullyaware5221 4 года назад +16

    What's funny about Panama is that weed's illegal (even though it grows wild in the jungle), but you can walk into a pharmacy and buy all the amphetamine you want. No prescription necessary, unless the law has changed. Oh, and they're not over charging you because you're a gringo, necessarily. They're over charging you because you look wealthy by local standards. This used to happen to my mother-in-law in Mexico and she was born there. She called it "charging by how you dress."

    • @dj-savi1528
      @dj-savi1528 3 года назад +1

      This is completely false

  • @Pantheragatos
    @Pantheragatos 4 года назад

    I was stationed in Panama at Ft. Clayton back in 1990-91. Yup, along time ago but I sure remember living there. The driving was a bit hairy.

  • @marleenq6160
    @marleenq6160 4 года назад

    Really enjo your video..my family and I are really exploring the idea of abroad living...Airbnb info please!

  • @BpGregor
    @BpGregor 4 года назад +9

    Welcome to Expat living. I really don't like that word, Expat, since it was always very derogatory. Any way. I live in the Philippines. I am surprised that Customs handles VISAS in Panama. Here it is the bureau of immigration. Paperwork is a top priority and must be perfectly completed in any transaction here. Drugs? In most of Southeast Asia, "Dada means death"! Dada means drugs of any kind which have not been prescribed! In the Philippines, if a person is caught with drugs, the person is usually not killed. He or she is put on prison and may come to trial in 3 or 4 years. And the years awaiting trial don't count as time served! Most of the time here, I can expect to pay the same price for things as any Filipino does. There are some exceptions when I know a Filipino and he can negotiate a price for me, but not in the super markets or major department stores. One thing I learned in almost any foreign country is that the attitude of the people is the the US is a wealthy country and all the people are as wealthy as the Rockefeller's or DJT. I have had people here tell me that so much stuff is free in the US. I have had to tell them that it isn't so. Filipinos want to go to US because salaries are big. I explain to them that so are expenses. My apartment here (foreigners in the Philippines are not permitted to own land here) costs 13,000₱ per month. That for many Filipinos is impossible. For me is less than one-half of what is paid in the US for something not even half as large as what I have here. But, they don't understand. That's not unusual for any one in Central America as well. But I have yet to find the people in the US as friendly and helpful as here and I have heard the same for many other countries. Yes, the laws here seem to change quickly and no one is informed. Selecting proper friends is a requirement. There is a criminal element everywhere in the world - no exceptions to that. I hope though that your time in Panama is mostly good and happy. Sad to learn that one is leaving.
    +Gregory

    • @Throwaway-kg7ft
      @Throwaway-kg7ft 4 года назад +1

      "Expats" is just a fancy way of saying "immigrants" without all the baggage that word carries.

  • @reginap942
    @reginap942 4 года назад +6

    Ok guys...go to Spain, Italy, Germany, Usa.....on and on....and NOT be Meticulous about your paperwork....hellooooo?....

  • @funnystories77
    @funnystories77 3 года назад +1

    Issue I'm interested in: what is it like living during rainy season versus dry season? Does it rain for hours during the day in rainy season? Is rainy season a time to get some reading done?

  • @paulsdancing5429
    @paulsdancing5429 4 года назад

    Look at it this way. You are both young. In a couple of years you'll become pros and thus have even more fun.

  • @clemt1456
    @clemt1456 4 года назад +35

    Passport documentation is a hassle EVERYWHERE. Paperwork is a hassle EVERYWHERE.

    • @chtomlin
      @chtomlin 4 года назад +4

      Right, but as an international airline pilot, I can share with you that quite often countries do not stamp your passport and if they do not, it is not proper to hold the visitor accountable. This is despicable and backwards.

    • @macjonte
      @macjonte 4 года назад +1

      Eh, no.. 🇸🇪 😉

    • @davedammitt7691
      @davedammitt7691 4 года назад

      Not really.over the past 30 years, I have traveled from the u.s. to Canada, much of Europe, Australia, Japan and have never had a passport or documentation problem. ever

    • @jasonbourne5985
      @jasonbourne5985 4 года назад

      govt in general harrase, bully intimidate, lie and exort ....basically planet Earth.....printing fiat paper with ink printed on it ...used to create debt ....or making it up out of thin air ,....we have all worked their games out now ...

  • @jaroncannon661
    @jaroncannon661 4 года назад +15

    I lived in panama for 2 years and I saw a very different side of that country lol

    • @gisming
      @gisming 3 года назад

      Lived here my whole life can agree

  • @jorgelamboglia8740
    @jorgelamboglia8740 4 года назад

    Glad u guys love my country :D

  • @marcoym5946
    @marcoym5946 2 года назад

    As someone from Peru, Panamá looks like a better place to live in any way.