im impressed with this pistol. the best gun ive shot in its size class. one of the nicest factory triggers ive ever felt on a polymer frame. its a good gun. i love it.
I had the original P365 and recently tested out the X Macro. I really like it for a number of reasons. First, the ability to add the red dot. I've been waiting for the X slide to be available, but since the Macro has other features I like, for instance, not losing the rear sight when installing the optic, I went ahead and took the plunge. Also, I do find the porting to be effective. Going from the original to the Macro, I do feel a perceptible difference in recoil. It may be a combination of the extended beavertail, the slightly different grip and the porting, but there is a noticeable difference. I do notice the slight wiggle in the grip. I changed to the small grip from the medium. I don't think it is enough for me to worry about. For what it's worth, the new one I have in the display case has the same slight wiggle. Overall, I'm impressed with the entire line. If I had the X or XL, I'm not sure I would upgrade. But I think that it's worth it to move from the 365 to the X-Macro. At least, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
If you still have the p365 and want to upgrade it. Arsenal Democracy can cut it and mount your optic. I had it done a couple years ago along with some internal upgrades. It’s a totally different firearm now. Also the rear sights are still on there incase of optic failure. This shop can cut the ports or etc.
My backstrap moves as well but honestly it's whatever. I ran cheap steel cased ammo 17+1 multiple times with zero issues and that's what matters. My XL definitely did not like to be loaded 12+1 and failed to feed repeatedly. They've finally achieved glock reliability with gucci feel
Nice video And good shooting!! I am getting my Macro Next week it took a long time that it came Available where I live greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 from a concealed carrier 😉👍🏼
I noticed the same issue when I got home from the gun store. I nestled two small pieces of cotton from a Q-tip around each contact point & fed the medium strap back on. It took a bit of work to get it just right with no cotton showing but now when I grip my macro she's glock solid.
Love the XMacro, but I changed the grip module out with a Wilson Combat module so I can run 12, 15 and 17 round mags. Really love this configuration and it shoots well. The comp does make the pistol shoot very flat to me with less recoil.
There is decent recoil reduction ( who know's what percentage it is ) I can feel it plus the Macro shoots flatter, I shot it against my 365XL and the macro defiantly shoots flatter, so follow up shots are quicker.
You're nitpicking with the whole backstrap issue; which can be easily fixed or replaced if you contact the manufacturer. Not really worth mentioning in a video in my opinion, much less to be used in your caption but hey, whatever gets those views, huh!?
This is not a cheap pistol and he had to send it back to the manufacturer. There are many pistols out there that have little history of malfunction and are reliable and good to go out of the box. Absolutely he should mention this.
@@buckhorncortez there have been reported malfunctions with this just like nearly every Sig pistol. Again, there are many manufacturers out there that don’t have these issues and it’s not like these are cheap guns.
I replaced my 365XL grip with a Macro grip. With the size of my hands the feel is much better and my trigger pull is more natural. Therefore I can shoot it better. I haven’t had any issues with the backstrap.
Picked up the X Macro and shot it yesterday... I one failure to feed the first 50rds and it run uninterrupted 200rds after. Terrific shooter, but will run another 300 rds before I put it in my rotation for EDC for sure.. No problems with the grips or anything else. Only thing I'm concerned with is what I hear on the rust comments. But!, we will see.
I'm curious as a gun reviewer why you would guess I'm barely because it's very specific and that information is out there. The comped version is 3.1 inches just like the standard 365, and the non-comped version has a 3.7 inch barrel. Really good video other than a few points, like not saying "about" when exact measurements are available as it appears unprofessional to do so. Professionalism is key to take your channel to the next level.
I have been a smith@wesson guy for a while but just got my first p365 for pocket carry went to range and must say love this little gun will be Loki g into the x and macro version as well
*Guns and Outdoors Channel* My back strap does that as well. So I checked 2 other pistols . One from Smith and from FN. They both have some slight play . Although they slide on snugly . I'm guessing that's why there is a pin . *Nice shooting*
The only handgun I've shot compensated and also the only one the target never leaves the window of the optic. Movement with medium back strap only. I wasn't sure at ifrst but the more I shoot it the more I like it.
Love my Macro, flawless use Hallosun red dot. Sig nailed it with this. It’s my EDC, however id rather have the longer XL barrel and slide over the comp. But is a Great Pistol for self defense!!!
The trigger is a good carry trigger. You can't compare that to a competition trigger which is what everyone seems to want. At the range that is fine, but mine is for work as in carry every day.
I have two of the Xmacro grip modules and no play. I changed mine over to the large back strap. I have small hands but still prefer the large back straps.
Loose bk strap isn't an issue. Don't send it bk, they're all a bit loose. Amazing how a little glue makes it all go away. Just use a little so you can still get it off. Incidentally, it isn't exactly a 17 rd mag , unless you want to have difficulty seating the mag on closed slide. It's just too tight. So you have 16 plus one -no big deal.
Personally Im thinking about just grabbing an xmacro grip module for my 365 XL. If it even fits that is....dont see why it wouldnt. Only thing keeping me from it is the 17 round mags are sold out all the time. Not really a fan of the shorter barrel and slide cut compensator. Feel like all that really does is make pistol a PITA to clean... but I like the new rail and who doesnt like more capacity?
The first reviewer to say the reduction in felt recoil probably has more to do with the larger grip than the comp! I’d rather have the extra inch of barrel length
Love your video...Ive got a P365 X Macro Comp and absolutly LOVE IT !!! Im NOT a Glock fan and never was...With Glock you have to change their NASTY trigger and plastic sights...Sig Sauer has it ALL OVER Glock and other manufaturers...Tge reason Sig calls this gun the 365 is because you can carry this weapon 365 days a year and NOT be annoyed by the gun....
I got it too To correct it i used two pieces of electrical tape and Talons grips now she does not move at all would be nice if the got the mags on the market. I was pleasantly surprised with the recoil reduction that it offers. good product forward moment to the right direction.
So. watching this vid. it gave me the impulse to check out my 2 macros. yes 2 its always better than one. :) any who I noticed the same thing with both of mine. not so much loose up and down. but more of a side-to-side thing. very minimal but noticeable. maybe .015 thousand of a move. like your partner said. that tolerance is there so you can swap back straps. I think it difference from back strap to back strap. it seems as if the large back strap is a bit tighter. thanks for the review.
@@bertecrabtree Sadly, no. Ive tried both. I believe theres a tighter fit around the barrel - possibly to control back pressure. When you attempt to insert either a 3.7 inch or the 4.25 inch threaded barrel into the opening at the muzzle and triy to slide it in, the barrel is stopped well before the breech-end of the barrel drops into place ahead of the firing pin/ejector/striker assembly. Not so wth the non-comped slide.
I have an XL and love it. I did change out the grip module to the Wilson Combat. Much better ergonomic design and fits my hand better. As far as not having a compensator or a rear iron site with the optic installed isn’t a factor for me. I like the longer 3.7” barrel, and with my aging eyes I need a reflex sight. Focusing with iron sights is not optimal for me. I went with the Holosun 507K green dot that has a built in back up rear sight. I’m looking forward to Sig or Wilson Combat to come out with an XMacro grip module. That will be the perfect matchup for the XL.
When you think about why Sig did what they did you realize that they made it bigger to not fit the concealed carry market as well as the P365XL. A complaint of the 365 series is that the grip is small. I myself with small short fingers had to move the mag release over to the Lefty side as I could not hit the mag release at the angle which was needed to drop the mag. Also canting the pistol to hit the mag release the mag would hang up on the palm of your hand. Everyone who shoots these guns knows this. When I moved the release to the other side & operating with your finger instead of your thumb all of these mag release issues went away. I also ground off the Beaver Tail on my P365XL. If it's not needed on the P365 then you don't need it on the XL either. And after 1000 rounds or more still no slide bite. However the Beaver Tail may be needed on the X-Macro as the bore axis may be lower than the other 365's. Now enter the X-Macro with its' redesigned wider, longer grip AND mag release. When the X-Macro is in your hand the grip is longer feels small, & the mag release is easily operated with my short fingers. So what's wrong about this for concealed carry? THE GRIP LENGTH now is too long as it now prints so much more than the XL. If only they had made the grip length to fit an XL mag it would have been almost perfect. Another FLAW is that they changed to a standard rail, making the gun wider. 2 things wrong with this: 1) Won't fit P365 holsters, but this isn't a big deal as you can always buy another holster (I have many). 2) This is the big one. It's wider which is exactly what you don't want when carrying. 3) A down side to keeping the rear sight is that the optic now is placed closer to that cartridge view port accumulating more carbon of the window of the optic. SO: Why did Sig do all of these changes? They made it for Police Depts. & possibly the Military. They just hoped we wouldn't notice & buy the d*_m thing anyway. There's a sucker born every minute as they say. (Me included) But they won't catch me today.
I can buy two Canik ( SC's) and extra ammo for the price of this Sig. Long time Sig Fan ( still own a 1988 West German 226, that is priceless to me) so no Sig hate here. There are so many equal pistols for half that price that buying one isn't smart money to me. Yes, if your pockets are deep and you just want the " NEXT IT GUN" get one. If it it is value and performance , you can do CHEAPER & BETTER. Semper Fi
If you have a original p365 you can buy xmacro grip an xcomp slide and xl365 recoil spring an turn your p356 into a xmacro. That's what I did an I love it.
More than a little bit I got my shield plus for $500 with a bag and three extra magazines $879 a little bit pricey for me. After all. I am retired on a fixed income right now down the road of my not even have any income lol
The one problem with all p365 is the small trigger guard. I wish they would’ve made it the same size as the 320 trigger guard. The tip of my finger always catches that while on the 320 my finger barley touches the trigger guard. I have small meatballs hands too so I can only imagine how annoying it’s must be for people with long skinny fingers.
I've seen two others with this issue, but oddly mine doesn't have any play (and I did switch out the backstraps--though I ended up with medium, I may try out the large a bit more). I've considered using JB Weld on it and cutting down the grip to take the 12rd (14 w/ magguts) mag in one of my MACROs (I have two).
I just like the grip size more than other options and thought it would be cool to have a shorter one. But I came to the same conclusion and just use a Wilson XL instead.
Is it true if a license carrier/civilian in NYC was to purchase the x macro he or she would not be allowed to carry a capacity of 17 and would be forced to only carry a capacity of 10 in the magazine?
First time I see this issue, I've used SIG CS and it's the best in the industry (along with Glock) i'm sure they might make a revision on those backstraps for tighter fit.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel Yeah so Sig said there's nothing they can do except send a new pin. But my movement is at the top near the beavertail so that would be unlikely to resolve my issue. Dissappointing. I will probably give it some time and call back to see if they have a better response....
@@markinjhawkland724 I was afraid of that. They had told me to send the gun in to them. But just like you, I initially thought about a pin but then realized that the bottom part where the pin go is already pretty sturdy. Seemed to me to be more of a fitment issue at the top of the backstrap as you pointed out. So 100%, I’m on the same page with you.
Oddly enough, it seems like the mediums are out of spec. The square slot at the top is bigger on the medium than the others. I put the large on and there is zero play. Are y’all using medium or large? Can’t decide if I like the large better than the medium.
I'm just waiting for the slide to pair with the Wilson Combat XL grip module. If Wilson makes an X Macro type module I'll get that as well, but their texture is hands down the tits.
Sig does sell the XL Spectre Comp slide which is very similar to the XMacro slide except it has suppressor height X-ray 3 night sights, serrations on top of the slide and lightning cuts on the sides. I'm running the Spectre Comp slide on a XL Wilson Combat Tungsten Gray laser stippled lower. The slide is a little pricey at $500 but my guess is if and when they sell the XMacro slide it will be $600?
Short barrel, does not extend to end of slide. Barrel ends before the compensator ports on top of slide (or about even with the front sight), hence the compensation.
I am a big Sig fan. They continue to be innovative with solid offerings. But...there has to be a but...no manual safety "option", I'll pass. Some P365 & P365 XL's have them...every one should have it available as a option. They can offer it as a "parts" purchase and self install. No brainer imo.
it'll probably happen in time- remember, 365 w/ safety wasn't announced until 18+ months after initial release, and took 2 years before they really became prevalent
$879???? The shop is charging way way too much. Rather get it online and ship it to ffl. At every store I went to it was $799. And even saw one for $759.
I shot an XL rental, bought a Macro and shot it a couple days later. The XL recoil was extremely manageable and Macro felt like cheating. I def noticed the compensator. But both shoot great. I think I actually prefer the grip of the XL.
Then go for the cheapest thing that fits your budget. What's the point of complaining about something you won't buy? Do you complain about the cost of cars you can't afford too?
im impressed with this pistol. the best gun ive shot in its size class. one of the nicest factory triggers ive ever felt on a polymer frame. its a good gun. i love it.
I had the original P365 and recently tested out the X Macro. I really like it for a number of reasons. First, the ability to add the red dot. I've been waiting for the X slide to be available, but since the Macro has other features I like, for instance, not losing the rear sight when installing the optic, I went ahead and took the plunge.
Also, I do find the porting to be effective. Going from the original to the Macro, I do feel a perceptible difference in recoil. It may be a combination of the extended beavertail, the slightly different grip and the porting, but there is a noticeable difference.
I do notice the slight wiggle in the grip. I changed to the small grip from the medium. I don't think it is enough for me to worry about. For what it's worth, the new one I have in the display case has the same slight wiggle.
Overall, I'm impressed with the entire line. If I had the X or XL, I'm not sure I would upgrade. But I think that it's worth it to move from the 365 to the X-Macro. At least, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
If you still have the p365 and want to upgrade it. Arsenal Democracy can cut it and mount your optic. I had it done a couple years ago along with some internal upgrades. It’s a totally different firearm now. Also the rear sights are still on there incase of optic failure. This shop can cut the ports or etc.
@@coyotehunter1163 maybe, but then I don't have a reason to buy a new gun! 🙂
My backstrap moves as well but honestly it's whatever. I ran cheap steel cased ammo 17+1 multiple times with zero issues and that's what matters. My XL definitely did not like to be loaded 12+1 and failed to feed repeatedly. They've finally achieved glock reliability with gucci feel
Love my Macro, my grip doesn't move. I changed the backstrap to large. I've run 600 rounds of different rounds through it with no issues.
Same here my backstrap doesn't move
My backstop doesn't move at all.
Nice video And good shooting!! I am getting my Macro Next week it took a long time that it came Available where I live greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 from a concealed carrier 😉👍🏼
I noticed the same issue when I got home from the gun store. I nestled two small pieces of cotton from a Q-tip around each contact point & fed the medium strap back on. It took a bit of work to get it just right with no cotton showing but now when I grip my macro she's glock solid.
Right on Angelo. Thanks for sharing
Love the XMacro, but I changed the grip module out with a Wilson Combat module so I can run 12, 15 and 17 round mags. Really love this configuration and it shoots well. The comp does make the pistol shoot very flat to me with less recoil.
Interesting. Thanks Terry
Love mine, Bass Pro had 10% off online orders. $720.00 is still pricey, but I flip flopped frames with my Spectre Comp XL and have 2 awesome EDC's.
Just picked up the Macro today which led me to find your channel. Y'all just gained a new subscriber.
There is decent recoil reduction ( who know's what percentage it is ) I can feel it plus the Macro shoots flatter, I shot it against my 365XL and the macro defiantly shoots flatter, so follow up shots are quicker.
You're nitpicking with the whole backstrap issue; which can be easily fixed or replaced if you contact the manufacturer. Not really worth mentioning in a video in my opinion, much less to be used in your caption but hey, whatever gets those views, huh!?
This is not a cheap pistol and he had to send it back to the manufacturer. There are many pistols out there that have little history of malfunction and are reliable and good to go out of the box. Absolutely he should mention this.
@@jordanmorales8610 You'll have to explain how a backstrap is a "malfunction" when the gun still operates reliably.
700 isn’t that bad
@@buckhorncortez there have been reported malfunctions with this just like nearly every Sig pistol. Again, there are many manufacturers out there that don’t have these issues and it’s not like these are cheap guns.
loose back-strap is not nit-picking.
I replaced my 365XL grip with a Macro grip. With the size of my hands the feel is much better and my trigger pull is more natural. Therefore I can shoot it better. I haven’t had any issues with the backstrap.
Picked up the X Macro and shot it yesterday... I one failure to feed the first 50rds and it run uninterrupted 200rds after.
Terrific shooter, but will run another 300 rds before I put it in my rotation for EDC for sure..
No problems with the grips or
anything else. Only thing I'm concerned with is what I hear on
the rust comments.
But!, we will see.
I like the xmacro because it's an excellent carry pistol, but works equally well as a home defense pistol.
I'm curious as a gun reviewer why you would guess I'm barely because it's very specific and that information is out there. The comped version is 3.1 inches just like the standard 365, and the non-comped version has a 3.7 inch barrel. Really good video other than a few points, like not saying "about" when exact measurements are available as it appears unprofessional to do so. Professionalism is key to take your channel to the next level.
I have been a smith@wesson guy for a while but just got my first p365 for pocket carry went to range and must say love this little gun will be Loki g into the x and macro version as well
*Guns and Outdoors Channel* My back strap does that as well. So I checked 2 other pistols . One from Smith and from FN. They both have some slight play . Although they slide on snugly . I'm guessing that's why there is a pin . *Nice shooting*
Yep. Thanks for the feedback brother. Cheers
My current EDC gun is the original P365. This is going to be my next one,(as soon as I save up the money)!👍
The only handgun I've shot compensated and also the only one the target never leaves the window of the optic. Movement with medium back strap only. I wasn't sure at ifrst but the more I shoot it the more I like it.
Love my Macro, flawless use Hallosun red dot. Sig nailed it with this. It’s my EDC, however id rather have the longer XL barrel and slide over the comp. But is a Great Pistol for self defense!!!
Great points Rebel. Thanks for sharing and enjoy it
I have the XL slide on the Macro grip. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet though.
Which holosun do you have?
@@shaunthompson2849 I have the 507k on mine, but looking to get the EPS Carry. Then the 507k will go on my P365X.
@@CMH_1975 can you co-witness the sites with the holson on?
Good video, I think it's about the time we start looking into our winter retreat!
Oh yeah brother! I’ll send some comms out towards the end of the week 🤞👍
The trigger is a good carry trigger. You can't compare that to a competition trigger which is what everyone seems to want. At the range that is fine, but mine is for work as in carry every day.
It's weird to see a gun store that I actually go to.
Good video.
I have two of the Xmacro grip modules and no play. I changed mine over to the large back strap. I have small hands but still prefer the large back straps.
Loose bk strap isn't an issue. Don't send it bk, they're all a bit loose. Amazing how a little glue makes it all go away. Just use a little so you can still get it off. Incidentally, it isn't exactly a 17 rd mag , unless you want to have difficulty seating the mag on closed slide. It's just too tight. So you have 16 plus one -no big deal.
Personally Im thinking about just grabbing an xmacro grip module for my 365 XL. If it even fits that is....dont see why it wouldnt. Only thing keeping me from it is the 17 round mags are sold out all the time. Not really a fan of the shorter barrel and slide cut compensator. Feel like all that really does is make pistol a PITA to clean... but I like the new rail and who doesnt like more capacity?
The first reviewer to say the reduction in felt recoil probably has more to do with the larger grip than the comp! I’d rather have the extra inch of barrel length
Love your video...Ive got a P365 X Macro Comp and absolutly LOVE IT !!! Im NOT a Glock fan and never was...With Glock you have to change their NASTY trigger and plastic sights...Sig Sauer has it ALL OVER Glock and other manufaturers...Tge reason Sig calls this gun the 365 is because you can carry this weapon 365 days a year and NOT be annoyed by the gun....
I got it too
To correct it i used two pieces of electrical tape and Talons grips now she does not move at all would be nice if the got the mags on the market. I was pleasantly surprised with the recoil reduction that it offers. good product forward moment to the right direction.
So. watching this vid. it gave me the impulse to check out my 2 macros. yes 2 its always better than one. :) any who I noticed the same thing with both of mine. not so much loose up and down. but more of a side-to-side thing. very minimal but noticeable. maybe .015 thousand of a move. like your partner said. that tolerance is there so you can swap back straps. I think it difference from back strap to back strap. it seems as if the large back strap is a bit tighter. thanks for the review.
Right on Octane. Thanks for the feedback and perspective
I have the p365, p365xl, p365x and the p365x macro. They are all great but the macro is so much better overall. It’s a game changer
Phillip G throwing down the gauntlet! Loves the Macro! 🤙
Will a 365XL threaded barrel fit on the XMacro so I can drill a compensator hole in the barrel where the slide cutouts are?
@@bertecrabtree … From what I’ve heard The 3.7 barrel in the XL will not work in the compensated slide if the X-Macro.
@@bertecrabtree Sadly, no. Ive tried both. I believe theres a tighter fit around the barrel - possibly to control back pressure. When you attempt to insert either a 3.7 inch or the 4.25 inch threaded barrel into the opening at the muzzle and triy to slide it in, the barrel is stopped well before the breech-end of the barrel drops into place ahead of the firing pin/ejector/striker assembly. Not so wth the non-comped slide.
My God ur at Blackstone. I miss that freaking place so much hell I just miss NC so much
Oh yeah, brother that place has everything don’t they!
I have an XL and love it. I did change out the grip module to the Wilson Combat. Much better ergonomic design and fits my hand better. As far as not having a compensator or a rear iron site with the optic installed isn’t a factor for me. I like the longer 3.7” barrel, and with my aging eyes I need a reflex sight. Focusing with iron sights is not optimal for me. I went with the Holosun 507K green dot that has a built in back up rear sight. I’m looking forward to Sig or Wilson Combat to come out with an XMacro grip module. That will be the perfect matchup for the XL.
When you think about why Sig did what they did you realize that they made it bigger to not fit the concealed carry market as well as the P365XL. A complaint of the 365 series is that the grip is small. I myself with small short fingers had to move the mag release over to the Lefty side as I could not hit the mag release at the angle which was needed to drop the mag. Also canting the pistol to hit the mag release the mag would hang up on the palm of your hand. Everyone who shoots these guns knows this. When I moved the release to the other side & operating with your finger instead of your thumb all of these mag release issues went away. I also ground off the Beaver Tail on my P365XL. If it's not needed on the P365 then you don't need it on the XL either. And after 1000 rounds or more still no slide bite. However the Beaver Tail may be needed on the X-Macro as the bore axis may be lower than the other 365's. Now enter the X-Macro with its' redesigned wider, longer grip AND mag release. When the X-Macro is in your hand the grip is longer feels small, & the mag release is easily operated with my short fingers. So what's wrong about this for concealed carry? THE GRIP LENGTH now is too long as it now prints so much more than the XL. If only they had made the grip length to fit an XL mag it would have been almost perfect. Another FLAW is that they changed to a standard rail, making the gun wider. 2 things wrong with this: 1) Won't fit P365 holsters, but this isn't a big deal as you can always buy another holster (I have many). 2) This is the big one. It's wider which is exactly what you don't want when carrying. 3) A down side to keeping the rear sight is that the optic now is placed closer to that cartridge view port accumulating more carbon of the window of the optic. SO: Why did Sig do all of these changes? They made it for Police Depts. & possibly the Military. They just hoped we wouldn't notice & buy the d*_m thing anyway. There's a sucker born every minute as they say. (Me included) But they won't catch me today.
My backstrap has some play straight out of the box. You can feel it when you grip it.
I can buy two Canik ( SC's) and extra ammo for the price of this Sig. Long time Sig Fan ( still own a 1988 West German 226, that is priceless to me) so no Sig hate here. There are so many equal pistols for half that price that buying one isn't smart money to me. Yes, if your pockets are deep and you just want the " NEXT IT GUN" get one. If it it is value and performance , you can do CHEAPER & BETTER.
Semper Fi
Spoken like a true Marine....LoL
If you have a original p365 you can buy xmacro grip an xcomp slide and xl365 recoil spring an turn your p356 into a xmacro. That's what I did an I love it.
Got mine I loave it ordered my holosun for it yesterday
Right on Chuck. Enjoy
No backstrap issue on mine before or after changing to the large.
More than a little bit I got my shield plus for $500 with a bag and three extra magazines $879 a little bit pricey for me. After all. I am retired on a fixed income right now down the road of my not even have any income lol
Understood brother! Shield Plus is super nice! Good choice
The one problem with all p365 is the small trigger guard. I wish they would’ve made it the same size as the 320 trigger guard. The tip of my finger always catches that while on the 320 my finger barley touches the trigger guard. I have small meatballs hands too so I can only imagine how annoying it’s must be for people with long skinny fingers.
I had the same movement with the back strap.. A little gorilla glue solved the issue
I've seen two others with this issue, but oddly mine doesn't have any play (and I did switch out the backstraps--though I ended up with medium, I may try out the large a bit more). I've considered using JB Weld on it and cutting down the grip to take the 12rd (14 w/ magguts) mag in one of my MACROs (I have two).
J Flowers ringing the bell w/ not one, but “two” macros… 🇺🇸 Yeah. I’m not a fan of the wiggle.. 😂
Why butcher the grip module, when you can buy the 12rds XModule?
That's part of their design factor, modularity
I just like the grip size more than other options and thought it would be cool to have a shorter one.
But I came to the same conclusion and just use a Wilson XL instead.
So for $850 SIG still has QC issues??
This is why I won't touch a sig again.
HK , Glock, and Smiths do a way better job.
I have the P365 x-macro and there is no movement in the backstrap ...I've not shot it yet
Great info thanks guys
Right on J
Is it true if a license carrier/civilian in NYC was to purchase the x macro he or she would not be allowed to carry a capacity of 17 and would be forced to only carry a capacity of 10 in the magazine?
No play on mine out of the box or after changing to the large back strap. No ejection issues so far but I've only run nickel plated124gr +P in it.
Good feedback JPK - Thank you
First time I see this issue, I've used SIG CS and it's the best in the industry (along with Glock) i'm sure they might make a revision on those backstraps for tighter fit.
Ahhh a CLT native lol. Small world. Blackstone ain’t bad, a bit high for a lot of things but they’ve done me right
I like it. But Man $899. That's very high priced
Agreed with ya and understand Mike!
whoever is charging $899 is overcharging. I got the tacops for $695
Why didn't you put the 365 xl spectre on the line up for comparison??
I have the same issue. Will be contacting SIg
Dang. Sorry to hear that. Keep me posted Markin
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel Yeah so Sig said there's nothing they can do except send a new pin. But my movement is at the top near the beavertail so that would be unlikely to resolve my issue. Dissappointing. I will probably give it some time and call back to see if they have a better response....
@@markinjhawkland724 I was afraid of that. They had told me to send the gun in to them. But just like you, I initially thought about a pin but then realized that the bottom part where the pin go is already pretty sturdy. Seemed to me to be more of a fitment issue at the top of the backstrap as you pointed out. So 100%, I’m on the same page with you.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel Yup. Well I just put a piece of sctch tape on the upper flange and problem solved. At least so far. Good luck!
Oddly enough, it seems like the mediums are out of spec. The square slot at the top is bigger on the medium than the others. I put the large on and there is zero play. Are y’all using medium or large? Can’t decide if I like the large better than the medium.
First time .. Every time All the time ... Excellent buy !
Love mine so far, there's no movement in my backstrap luckily.
nice but expensive. i have the base P365 and only paid $399.99 for it.
My medium wiggles. Haven't tried small or large.
Maybe sig will try its hand at the double stack 1911
Mine does the same thing with the backstraps kinda bummed about it
Dang. Sorry to hear that brother. Let us know what you end up doing to resolve
not having any backstrap problem after inserting the large size.
I'm just waiting for the slide to pair with the Wilson Combat XL grip module. If Wilson makes an X Macro type module I'll get that as well, but their texture is hands down the tits.
Sig does sell the XL Spectre Comp slide which is very similar to the XMacro slide except it has suppressor height X-ray 3 night sights, serrations on top of the slide and lightning cuts on the sides.
I'm running the Spectre Comp slide on a XL Wilson Combat Tungsten Gray laser stippled lower. The slide is a little pricey at $500 but my guess is if and when they sell the XMacro slide it will be $600?
Can you load 17 rounds into this mag without the de facto loader as you called it?
Yes but it's not easy
My Macro has some wiggle in the backstrap. Good gun, but kinda annoying.
Thanks Matt. Yep. Hey did you end up going Med or Large ?
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel I went with the large. It fits my hands the best. The medium has a little wobble as well. I’m at ~500 rds.
That's odd. Mine is really tight. Probably something with early molds? I just got mine last week and it's tight.
Just toss a piece of electrical tape in there
Yeap the same issue. Clear silicone flex🤣🤣
30 percent reduction is with 147 grain.
Yeah I could tell a huge difference between 115 grain ball and 124 hsts.
"we are going to shoot it" 🤣 ya don't say?
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I love mine I have no issues
Mine definitely has the looseness on the backstrap.
I love my x macro for real I hit goodcwith it it
Lol love my g22 as well
Nothin is going around my ass except toilet paper.
I noticed the ejection pattern was all over the place.
Now that you mention it same here. Great observation. I wonder why that is? Turkish ammo?
Mine it doesn’t do that, really tight
why does the rail stick out?
Short barrel, does not extend to end of slide. Barrel ends before the compensator ports on top of slide (or about even with the front sight), hence the compensation.
Chamber flags make it look like the rail is extended
I am a big Sig fan. They continue to be innovative with solid offerings. But...there has to be a but...no manual safety "option", I'll pass. Some P365 & P365 XL's have them...every one should have it available as a option. They can offer it as a "parts" purchase and self install. No brainer imo.
💯% Agree brother. If this one sells out like hotcakes one would imagine they’ll offer it as an offering down the line
it'll probably happen in time- remember, 365 w/ safety wasn't announced until 18+ months after initial release, and took 2 years before they really became prevalent
manual safeties are for chicks
$879???? The shop is charging way way too much. Rather get it online and ship it to ffl. At every store I went to it was $799. And even saw one for $759.
I bought the 365 Tacops that came with 4 magazines for $695. Some store are overcharging.
"1 problem." the price? "all these sigs."
meh... there was more appeal to them around the turn of the century when it was the classic p series.
My backstrap doesn't move
Has anyone switched to suppressor height sights as a cowitness on the Macro? if so which ones?
I got the Spectre comp on the x macro grip. Since I bought the slide and not the gun, it came with suppressor sights. I dig it.
@@illrotik I bought the Spectre Comp slide for my XL and the Sig X-ray 3 suppressor height sights are a bonus since I run a Holosun 407K 🟢 on it.
is it you or the gun? there aint no muzzle flip.
It’s probably more so due to my my grip.
I shot an XL rental, bought a Macro and shot it a couple days later. The XL recoil was extremely manageable and Macro felt like cheating. I def noticed the compensator. But both shoot great. I think I actually prefer the grip of the XL.
If it's one problem, it shouldn't take you 25 minutes to explain
I’ll stick to my XL lol
Let your microphone recover for a few seconds before you start talking.
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You print the gun because your shirt is TOO TIGHT!
lost me with all the "you know"s. No, I dont know thats why I was watching to learn
Vibratite will fix your loose backstrap.
This gun is way over rated. I mean I just don’t see it. Way over priced.
Then go for the cheapest thing that fits your budget. What's the point of complaining about something you won't buy? Do you complain about the cost of cars you can't afford too?