EVERYTHING you need to MAKE 500HP with a HONDA CIVIC on a BUDGET
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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VITARA YCP PISTONS
D16 H BEAM SCAT RODS
STOCK D16Y8 CRANKSHAFT
MODIFIED Z6 OIL PUMP
EBAY BLOCK GUARD
BRIAN CROWER VALVE SPRINGS
STOCK Y8 RETAINERS
ADJUSTABLE CAM GEAR
ARP HEAD STUDS
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As soon as you said people hate single cams and you love pissing them off with that smile on your face, I subscribed😄
Me too! :)
Same lik
Me to bro..😁😁😁
Same
Literally same lol
This guy knows way too much and I fully trust everything he says to me
Lmao
I really hope this is sarcasm lmao he called cometic “cosmetic” 🤦🏻♂️🥴
Also he said the y8 crank is the better crankshaft out of d series which is definitely false 😂
🤣
@@kawboykody how do u mo dis????
@@jesusfreak3587 the power is speaking out of your ass 😂
Long live the D. No problems with my daily overbuilt 425hp y8 build. Just getting a bad wrap cause people dont check their oil levels and spin the bearing on piston 4 due to oil starvation cause it has and aluminum cast oil pan and holds less oil than the sheet metal pans. Oil light doesnt come on until your about 1.5 qts. Remeber its an oil pressure light not a oil level light, thats what the dip stick is for.
All fact 👍
Still running strong? Any issues?
I’m working my y8 up all engine project, I’ve prepped it for heat and more power, biggest upgrade is a Skunk2 stage 2 cam an AEM fuel rail, aluminum dual core radiator, 3” exhaust and larger air intake, it needs some cpu tuning and some other parts I have to fit onto it still but at 200K this puppy needs the remainder of its life to be lived with some power pulsing through it and embarrassing people that spent many $1000’s of dollars more then I have or will! Haters will hate buddy, and if your brand isn’t Honda, then it’s not a guess that you hate them! GMC lovers hate Honda the most and most will never know the history behind that but look it up bc it’s a great story of how Honda embarrassed GMC in the late 50’s I think…
What do you have done or what did you
How much to build awhole d 15 y 8
500 hp on a budget... just build the thing right and don’t worry about the budget, “doing it right saves from doing it twice!” Wise words from Honda Yoda
He means you dont need the fancy named or labels parts to build a strong reliable engine at the end of the day there just different grades of forged metal
Paladin ! I love your advice. Comments on this. Cheaply honda build motor theres no way build like this gona last hes doing wrong the best build are with expensive parts save headches us going to have issues to cheap of build
Some people have the dream of power without the budget to match haha
@@edwinrodriguez8852 You're a fucking idiot.
@@AM-wi6zo LMAO
Great content, just came across your channel. Glad to see there's still some cats making intelligent Honda content.
I'm gonna use cats more, I like that.
@@Rosskoflex yeaaaaa we like that 😂😂
It would be nice if more people ran cats, I love building cars but don't want to dump out a bunch of hydrocarbons I don't have to into the atmosphere
You seem to actually know a good amount of the fine details in building a SOHC turbo setup. I'm impressed at the little things you have pointed out in this video. Any honda turbo newb should take notes and use this guide.
The D16 are the easiest engines to work...with incredible results
I Only Use Z6 cranks. Way Better Oiling at High RPM's
This guys like Linustech for VTEC 😉
I've always wanted to keep my D series engine. Simple and crazy reliable and the thought of having a Lil 100hp engine pushing 500 sounds soooo cool😂 thx for the lesson.
Just curious why everyone that makes any good power on single cams all run z6 cranks and this guy says to use y8 I thought the y8 was bad for boost because of only having 1 oil port and they spin bearings alot
Yeah that part is wrong. Z6 is better for more oiling to the bearings
Yeah z six crank may be better at oiling the bearings but over time it loses oil pressure from a Z6 crank and the crank journals tend to crack and break
He said this is for reliability 😅
@@uhpixr reliable breakability maybe? if you like to spin bearings its the way to go. my cousin spun 3 sets in his 91 civic (d16z6 swapped) (also now mine) before he got pissed and jerked out the y8 crank and found a few z6 cranks in spokane wa. hasnt had an issue since and now i have two spare cranks for my car
Z6 crank is better my guy..... the z6 has 2 holes for more lubrication thus lubricating the crank and main bearings more causing less bearings to spin. Y8 cranks spin bearings at hi rpm so keep your limiter around 7k. And with a z6 pump on a y8 or y series engine you will no longer have a dipstick hole because the y8 has the dipstick hole in the oil pump and the z6 or a6 have them in the block by the manifold.
I agree with this z6 is better but a y8 does work. I made 486whp on E85 with my full y8 swap.
Which one is more reliable?
@@ixresurrectll3951 z6 crank for sure if turbo is better, y8 is fine for low boost and n/a builds. But a z6 crank if your want all the jam with all the lubrication. I myself have a y7 crank with speedfactory long rods with ycp 75mm vitaras. You can use a y series 1 hole cranks just know that it is more prone to spin main bearings because of the lack of lubrication that the z6 crank provides with 2 holes per main.
Can't a y7 or y8 crank be modified so the bearing get more lubrication?
@@damonlemasters3424 you can champher the holes like hunter does on his cranks and shim the oil pump for more pressure
I had a bad experience with the cometic head gasket and switched to a fel pro on my turbo z6. Cometics always seem to be hit or miss. I always recommend 5w40 rotella t6 oil and you'll have great oil pressure
I thought the t6 was more of a Subaru thing. Have people used it in Hondas too?
Shell helix hx8 5w40 and ceratec liky moly
Don't forget that Honda main and rod bearing fitment are numbered and color coded. It will be stamped on the bock and crank. No two bearings are the same. Fitting is highly recommended by a qualified engine builder. This is where you will lose all your oil pressure if you get it wrong. A buddy of mine wouldn't listen to my advice and he got only 200 miles out of his new build.
Ive got a y7 crank, acl race bearings, speedfactory rods, 320bhp @ 13psi, pump fuel. STOCK oil pump, daily driver 1 year, no problems. I dont believe the y7/y8s cranks are that bad as some of comments. Use what you got.
Darren Bradbury my friend ran 12psi on a stock d16, never touched the internals and never blew after two years of beating. With what you’ve done you either can stay tough and reliable or crank it up 2psi, just keep gauges w warning lights and possibly a low oil pressure shutdown switch wired to the ignition. That’ll save you a nice headache! Auto meter makes all u need
@@Dan_Ohhh sounds like me but had a greddy td05 turbo 15 psi 250 whp cylinder 4 rod did not like it on a d16z6 and used to blow out the block after 10 15 k miles but back the can get another motor for 100 bux lol
Yea some of these guys are haters. I think their really mad at how much money they spent
Was everything else stock? Did you hone/bore the cylinders or do any resurfacing?
@@Dan_Ohhh😅
SOOOOO HAPPY 🙂🙂🤩🤩🤩 WE BACK TO TALKING ABOUT THE SOHC !!!! LIL ENGINES DO NOT PLAY
...... can't wait to boost my D15b 3stage 💯💯💯💪💪💪💪
Men, i have a d15b 2 step or 3 step vtec (i don't know how is te correct name) well, i hear someone say it about the crank is diferent at all d15 crank's, is it true?(sorry for my english)
What about a 2013 corolla? My shits slow AF needs more umpth not 500 but she needs soming 130hp is dangerously slow haha
Nice
Lots of misinformation here.
Dillon Tracy then why are you here?
@@yourfather5324 Because RUclips sent me a notification that this video existed. Out of curiosity, I watched it. I simply commented in hopes no one takes this advice. Because I could rattle off 5 or more wrong things with this list.
Provide said info please
@@TheActualCaveman You should always opt for a Z6 crank, Y8 will likely do just fine but Z6 IS BETTER. There is no such thing as a race crank for a D-series. Highly highly highly recommend a new oil pump. Preferably from BadGuys, at the very least pull the cover and inspect it. Shimming a stock pump will get you by, but far from recommended. Porting a stock casting pump is merely worthless due to the point of entry to the block and not recommended. Just get SFR rods, they bump your compression from dog shit to less dog shit with a Vitara setup. NEVER run a blockguard, CSS or nothing. Not even worth sleeving these things. People have been making over 600whp on these with just CSS and 4-500 with nothing at all. Blockguards put uneven pressure on cylinder walls, even forcing taper is some cases. They spell death and will crack your sleeves. Never had or heard of any problems with Ti retainers. Maybe they were installed incorrectly by some backyard mechanic with a hammer and a socket. Supertech valvetrain is the popular choice, but most all will do. Ported head, unnecessary. A stock port Z6 has made over 600whp time and time again and will match even a well ported Y8 head. Plus going wild with a dremel and no clue what you're doing will likely give you opposite results than you're looking for. Smaller ports generate more velocity and that velocity will spool your turbo faster. DON'T buy an adjustable cam gear unless you find you have to when degreeing your cam or compensating for tens of thousands shaved from head/block. No tuner is going to ever waste his time adjusting your cam and resyncing ignition timing for every adjustment. Unless he built that engine or you pay him to continuously beat the hell out of your engine on the dyno before you even get to have fun with it. Typically little to nothing to be gained anyway.
@@dillontracy939 that'll shut him up😂😂
I hear y8 cranks spin bearings at high rpm due to only having 1 oil port
Facts.
My 944 only has 1 and it spins bearings ☹️
True
Mine did.
Z6 FTW
I don't wanna tell you what to do, but I also do wanna tell you what to do because I dont wanna see you tear it all back apart. USE A Z6 CRANK IT WONT LOWER YOUR OIL PRESSURE MUCH. YOULL SPIN A BEARING SHOOTING FOR THAT KINDA POWER ON THE Y7/Y8 CRANK. Yes I have a y7 crank in mine but I also have my rev limiter set low and only pushing 250hp. Please use a z6 crank
Simplegarageworks , well said sir. STRAIGHT forward and to the point......
Daaamn we are learning so much on these damn chats/comments 💯💯🇵🇷💯💪💪
Greatvideo of!
Or maybe just port and shim and itll hold🤷♂️
I thought the z6 crank was better cause at high rpms they need those oil passages to prevent contact. To make up for the pressure loss, you shim and port the oil pump.
What kind of ECU? Do you use?
Thanks for the info bro n keep the vids coming....you can see my build on my pic all motor lsv making 300+hp n i love beating v8s that hate on us
Joe Martinez which cars have yu beat ?
@@johnj1807 mustangs falcons with built 289s z28s chargers should i keep going or did that answer your question
Joe Martinez that’s nice man yea I’m gonna be building my first Turbo civic that’s why I asked what do yu have done to your motor ?
@@johnj1807 its fully built email me joemartinez21024@gmail.com
Your oil pressure is determined by the clearances between the crankshaft journals and the main/rod bearings, plus any other accessories that use the oil pump for lubrication. (piston oil squirters, which I recommend for a turbo engine, plus you can lean out and still pull timing for fuel economy on the highway) Having only one oiling hole per crankshaft journal is a potential failure point, as your oil pressure reading may be high, but if your oil is too thick, which turbo builds will be using, the crankshaft oiling holes will become a restriction and starve the bearings. There's a reason you don't see Z6 motors spinning rods, whereas the Y8 will spin bearings occasionally. It's not the biggest concern but if we're talking reliability, you should definitely be considering a Z6 bottom end.
I am interested in building a D15B bottom end with a D17A2 cylinder head with cam and valvesprings. You get coil-on-plug ignition and better swirl ports for low end torque. You just need to use Megasquirt or another standalone with it as Hondata is not an option.
What about a d16a6 block ?
@@g35tho11 yes if u can find a d16a6 motor that would be the best motor to get even over the z6 motor. The A6 vtec motor is better then them all in the D series fam. I had one I put in a eg hatch I had some yrs ago n that A6 motor was a beast man n it would hang with a B series coupe n he couldn't get away from me n my car was a auto LMFAO. Wish I would've kept that Lil d16a6
@@g35tho11 do I have a d16a6 motor bro if so u wanna sale it
@@obezzyjohnson9680 hey so the d16a6 is a automatic VTEC? I
You don't want oil pressure. You can have your oil holes pluged up, wtf. You need oil flow
There is no s in cometic.
Yea man kills me to it's got a cosmetic headgasket lol my friend always sayn that ish its Cometic
Josh Dane like duck tape 😉
OEM MLS head gasket will be fine even on a big turbo build. Honda knew what they were doing. I've heard of guys popping Cometic gaskets on their turbo builds.
@@GrimReaper... Or "headers" on your honda. Unless u got a j-series 😂
Dude love the commentary at the end, you can't lose racing with a single cam because even if they win there is no bragging rights so it's win win.
I have a d16y8 in my civic that I'd love to do this with!
Dam that’s a good point haha
It’s like wrestling a girl, if you win you lose and if you lose you lose
@@Hennysgarage good comeback lol
Henry Leach h
Great video bro !! your info is priceless and a lot of people know these types of things but won't share.... you my friend are a true informer. 💪👍
This guy sounds like a young Steve buscemi😂😂
Cometic, not Cosmetic. Good video.
You can see why this channel isn't growing so much....all the bad advice like using the y8 instead of the z6 crank and saying cosmetic when it cometic lol just little things like that will drive people away.
Mr. Saephan he’s going for the cheapest way possible you idiot
I laughed hard at the end how much you love to piss people off ... in fun way not a mean way. Your the man haha
I've been looking for this exact video for a long time. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. I am so grateful and I appreciate you more than you know... Keep building brother...
Subbed 👍🏻 looking forward to seeing a single cam build, good shit dude 🔥
Soooo, I have a 1991 civic ex, could I do this on that? (First car btw)
Yes, As Long as its a D16 You can do it with the same parts he used 🙂
Yo I can I use these parts without turboing straight motor wht kinda power would I get
It would make less then stock. Rods are heavy and pistons are low compression.
After watching this video I'm subscribed you have given me motive to build my d16 but here in the UK we have d16v1 witch is 130bhp which come in an ep2 civic mk7
@roryjones u got Instagram add me 4EVRGRINDAUTOCLUB
I know i am late but do you have a Link for all the parts you used
I have a full parts list for this build I can send it’s $25 just hit me up on Instagram.
I just want to say great video! But I also want to say go with a z6 crank the 2 oil ports will lower the oil pressure but the oil flow is better you want those bearings all nice and lubed up plus if you are going for a turbo build u will need can’t stress this enough a better oil pump most turbos need oil and you need that engine like I said all nice and lubed up!
Facts
With the Brian crower valve spring and stock retainers, how much rpm can it hold reliably
Hi! I’m in the process of doing this D16Z6 build; YCP Vitara 75.5 pistons, No notch long rods so the compression is around 8:5.1 instead of 7:6.1 on the standard rods. I’m using the Ferrea 6000 competition intake and exhaust valves, BC springs on stock Z6 retainers and the comp cam stage 2. Z6 crank as I would prefer the extra oil port for the bearings.. head will be ported, polished and skimmed, valve angle 3 to 2, with the adjustable cam gear and cylinder protector.. and because of this video il either get a better oil pump or do the spring method to the z6 pump
Which year model civic is good
I always enjoy watching on your channel. However, does doing this decrease daily driver dependability? Or should I be okay?
Wonder why he didn't respond
"I like making people upset."
I feel you there too, people talk so much shit about Hondas but I will never sell my EF hatch.
Preach lol!!
I have the Honda vtec motor in my 2005 Saturn vue. It came from the factory like this. GM bought the whole Honda drivetrain and put them in 2005-2006 Saturn vue. Will these mods work in my motor⁉️⁉️
“Cosmetic head gasket ” 😂
How much HP would stock y8 pistons handle and still be relatively reliable
About 190-200hp
Ok great
Experience is knowledge gained the best way. You have for sure! Been there, done that works hey? Great video, great advice 👍🏻
D14 parts? I want to build one with the smallest engine
If done right Devcon works perfect. By the way Shimming the pump has nothing to do with pressure it add volume .
Shimming pump adds pressure
Porting adds volume..
Lol "cosmetic" 😂😂😂 it's just cometic bro
Iv lost my way in the honda sauce
So I’m gonna be running this
Victara 75 mm piston
Speed factory Long rods no notch
King bearings
Oem crank bearings
Arp head studs
Skunk 2 alpha springs retainers
Stock valves
Delta 272 cam
Ported head
Rev 9 turbo kit with t3t4 turbo stage 4 clutch stock transmission what kind of power you think imma be able to make and what psi would be save it’s a d16z6
HAHAHAHA...YOU ARE THE S#/T BRO...GREAT ADVICE AND PRICED SO RIGHT...CRAZY SINGLE CAM BOMB...NUKE THOSE ATTITUDES...LMBO!!! I drive an old 91 sentra 1.6 5 spd...IT AINT KILLER...BUT I LIKE 1.6 FOR THE DEPENDABILITY...IM 71...DROVE A 55 CHEV 2 DR WAGON FOREVER AND I WAS KNOWN BY THAT CAR(My Dad bought it late 55 for $1600.00 BRAND NEW...) Oh I would love to put one of those de stroked 1.6 engines in this...175hp...factory...or get the 200hp 2.0...it would be way enough for my adrenal gland...TY & GREAT JOB!!!
I hate hondas aswell but have to say there probably the best car ever made. The engines and transmissions are off the hook. Easy as hell to maintain and work on.
Can block guards handle 500-650hp? D series specifically. I've just read negative comments from CSS users. TIA for the inputs
"Under 5ps I didn't know that about the stock pressure sensor "i I'm glad I clicked this to listen to in the background, priceless information. Thanks hombre 😎💯👍
Clicked on this cause i saw d series but dissapointed in parts selection
Its a budget build.
Kids love this.
I'm just about to build a civic. And I have a question. I need a good car guy. If you are in the pennsylvania area or tri state period. I will pay for someone to help me build a 500hp civic.
LOL @ 'cosmetic' head gasket. I think you meant "Cometic," MLS gasket. Just messin with you bro. Some good info on here on a budget long block build
I would like to Build a D16 Engine with a Z6 Block with a Y8 Head for Either a Turbo Setup or All Motor. Do I use the Y8 or Z6 Crank?
New to civic entirely i assume all d series blocks are essentially the same i am picking a turbo d16z6 making 10-15 psi on base tune rev limited at 5k rpm I'm looking to pull the engine and build it right wanna know for sure if all this will work for this engine
Its not just a feeling about block guards. DO NOT USE THEM!
Hey buddy. I’m gunna build a d16 turbo motor and haven’t been in the Honda game before. If I will be upgrading most parts does it matter which d16 I start with? If so which part number should I be looking for?
What block do you recommend? I have a CRX Si and getting a y8 head and mani this weekend.
I tell my customers that the factory oil pressure light is basically the "It's too late " light.
I have found a source for ones that turn on at much higher psi. Worth swapping over as a budget oil pressure monitor !
hi , i need 10W40oil or 15W50 with my D16 turbo 18psi ? thank's
Question did you do a d16y8 block and a d16z6 head? If so did the y8 arp bolts work just fine?
What cam do you recommend? And should i use stock valves? Currently building a d16z6 block.
How about just building a Honda because you Love them! Fuck messin with all the Haters! Beating high dollar builds/cars are just bonus. 🤷♂️
😆😆😆 all these people talking s*** about you. Cant be cheap reliable and fast are mentally challenged or just don't know what there talking about .... Only thing I'd add to this build would be turbo cam to make it easier to get those numbers and to also gasket port match intake and exhaust 500hp is pushing it though but 450 alllll day long let's not forget good tires and traction bars and definitely a good shifter and new shifter bushing for the linkage don't want to miss shift at high boost ... Then bam got a killer that will walk shit all day
Bro im a 43yr old dude who loves cars and trucks... I laughed very hard cause thats how i be. Very chill 😎 quiet but i tell'em let me take ya on a stroll to the park... And makes people angry....
You almost had me on this build. But saying that a y8 crank is a better choice than the z6 is flat out wrong. Having less oil ports cannot be a plus. Also it’s not just about oil pressure. It’s about oil volume. And the design of the oil pan and placement of the pickup in a y8 motor is horrible. So the main bearings starve of oil. Any reputable shop will tell you this. Aside from that it’s just plain common sense. So please do a little research before giving false facts.
Since civics are cheap, any of you guys who plan on doing high horsepower builds should just get a rolling chassis with no drivetrain. However if you can find a civic under 1000 you could probably sell the individual parts you don't need for more than the car is worth.
I want to get a sleeper for my town so when the big trucks and cars at things that they can take me on pull up next to me I just let go
@Autosauce im so fricking confused please help me out becuse i have rod know in my car can i just put a y8 crank in my z6 block ibecuse i cannot find a fricking z6 crank thats all i need to know w
$100 for valve springs. Are you talking about 100 for one spring, or 100 for all? Please be accurate in your language!!!!
Wouldn’t it be a good idea to lower the compression ratio with a thicker headgasket? Considering you’re boosting it?
Z6 crank is better and you dont need to shim the pump unless you port it. If you do decide to use a block guard make sure you bore the cylinders after it Is installed.
Thank you for the informative video I've been looking for a video like this and now I'm a subscriber.
Transmission/Gearbox upgrades??? I'm sorry, new to this
You want me to gring an engine block?!?!?! Super scary... Did you worry about anealing the metal?
Ive allways read and heard to use the z6 crank and run the oil pump settup that you are .... Wont run low oil pressure .... And oils the bearings way better no starvation ...
I’m unsure if you check ur comments but I got absolutely ruined at a dealership on buying a Honda , time and time again I go back to Honda , I want to build my car as fast as possible without ruining the engine . Please let me know if you can give me some serious advice ! Thanks
You had me at pissing people off...haha 3,000.00 rocket....I like it
rebuidling a blown up d17 i got off market place for $600 04 lx civic wanting to turbo it dont know where to start
Anyone built a d16w1 or d16w5? There easily available in UK and thinking of building one.
Can someone point me to a video of a D17 build, Ive been searching for a bit but cant find any actual break downs on a d17 build
Before I use the bathroom I remember I need "oil pressure" before I go to bed I check if I have good "oil pressure" when I make food I check my "oil pressure". 🤣
I can use some of this knowledge to aid in building my 4g69 eclipse no hate to the Hondas vtec was copied by mivec pretty much so thankyou lol
Do u build engines for people ?
Yes sir I do! Call me +1 (863) 247-6345
Where do you find these turbos for 100 bucks. Only seeing kits for 2500 and up
There are things he isn't telling you. Things that should be included in the video. It's like he is lying to his viewers. See all those buckets of joint compound in his garage? He hasn't told us how he uses them to make his car faster. I think he is holding back on the secret sauce
Maybe I missed it but what Camshaft
And compression ratio piston?
Guys
I wanna make an awd k24 on an EF civic
For as least as 12k usd *i live in another country*
Any guide or help
In malaysia people dont hate honda's but they hate the person that drive the honda's because in malaysia a person who drive a honda's 70% are so Arrogant and they always think honda's is the fastest even tho not fast enough...
You could do the same with a rods pistons R18.
The older D series cars dissolved away years ago up north...
Hey am hoping you can help me get my d16y8 started? Because I need some serious help dude car cranks but won’t start up an run