How to run a Vtec cam in a non vtec head (How to lock vtec in a D16y7)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- In this video i show how to lock vtec and this method works for d16y8,D16z6 to lock vtec but this method i used works great for locking a Vtec cam into a d16y7 non vtec engine.
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Before doing this mod make sure you know the risks. ruclips.net/video/B4VphcE6Ix8/видео.html
I did a video on pros and cons!
Texas Honda Channel hey man I’ve been trying to find you video of the fitting you make for screwing into where the oil sending unit goes any info would be very much appreciated thanks
@@Swannsmobileauto Here is the only video i have. Its at 15mins and 40 seconds at this link
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Can u do this to a b series? Nice build great content man
That’s exactly what I was wondering! I wish u could come down to Austin and help a brother out with the integra! I need some serious help haha
This reminds me of something I said on a Miata channel.👇🏻
What I am about to say is especially true in N/A setups. If your Adjusting them in 70+ degree temperatures. You can actually get away with 0.007 Intake and 0.0011 Exhaust. I know they say “only follow the manufacturer’s Specs.” However considering the manufacturers also leave enough room for their vehicles to be cold started in Russia roads in winter while also being driven up a very steep hill in Mexico in the hottest days of summer. All of which on their same factory recommend adjustments. So there actually is a slight amount of play room figured into their recommendations for extreme thermal expansion. Honestly.
Now alternatively if your cylinder temperatures are increased such as non intercooled Turbo/Supercharged engines also high boost and nitrous setups. As well as alternative fuels like nitrometh I recommend going to the looser side of the manufacture recommendations for the thermal expansion of the metals under those extreme conditions.
But a properly tuned and intercooled turbo setup shouldn’t see cylinder temperatures that high to begin with.
Look at it this way if you have to run colder plugs. Then set it to the higher side of the factory recommendations to be sure. And if your still running the factory plugs you can get away with that extra 0.001 depending on your climate temps and the way the vehicle is driven.
If it’s a car that only see’s racing conditions than you probably already know what you should be doing with valve adjustments anyway. Because in racing conditions a loose engine is a happy engine.
Great video bruh..the endless possibilities of Honda engines is evident here.
this is blowing my mind, about 15 years ago i built a d16y7 all motor. never got to finish it but was ls rods, pm6 pistons?(not 100% sure) sanded, shaved, notched arp bolts everything, head ported to all hell, crower stage 3 cams, notched the head, super? something valvetrain, 3 angle, decked 20 thousand, y7 block and head, knife edge crank, really wish i could have finished it.. this is new info i never thought of. amazing stuff.
side note i deburred and balanced the entire head lol, each rocker arm, die grinder was a thing...
d16y7 was my engine, always loved the idea that it was the shit engine nobody wanted, loved the idea of taking that as far as i could
Damn its pulling real hard!! Love it great cheap mod even for anyone running NA. Now I wanna lock vtec lol!!
Barbas Life Yea for sure even on a NA setup it would do great
i love the the final product. i wouldn't have done that because I live in the city of New York and it wouldnt be very fuel efficient, but still great job. it sounds awesome and
obviously runs like a beast... keep the vids coming. i know this is a old vid. I started watching this channel cuz of the supercharged pilot cuz i wanna do the same to my odyssey. but im old school and still love civics and teggys. but I am going to try to like and comment on each video I can see of yours. good stuff
I love this entire car, color, engine Bay colors and all your honda nerdness under the hood
San antonio Texas here! Just got a 05 civic coupe im working on and a 96 accord great video thanks!
Awesome content! Will be referring to this in the future when my turbo z6 gets a rebuild.
I always thought about doing this! Awesome videos as always 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks it's one of a kind for sure!
you earned my sub with this one. ima start looking for a y8 cam now
Much love to the channel and the beautiful Volvo man. It’s like watching me and my guys 😂. 👍🏽
I absolutely love the multicolored engine bay...I love the whole color scheme as a whole actually ... I wish I coulda hot a honda instead of my 04 mcs but people wanted way to much for them. And I HAVE to have a clean rust / dent free car .and i couldn't find anything for under 5k but got my mini for 2400$ only soooooo the mini is what I've been modding and it actually has been a blast
The KING of cheap! You make sooo much with sooo little. I love this idea! Its clear that it make more power just from that short clip you gave us (more please) I would like to hear you opinion about what is lost (if anything) in other areas of the power band.😀👍
I have not felt a loss of power or tq doing this mod and since it got retuned its even faster. The newer video shows how much faster it is.
Good shit man!! Definitely see and hear a difference with the vtec locked. Instant powah!! 👍🏼💪🏼
Eric Yea for sure the turbo spools way faster now too so I’m happy about that!
Right now I'm working on my next project. An '02 EP3. I am leaving it bone stock outside even keeping the four lug and working on all engine. Dropping an '06 K24A2 from a TSX-S. In order to keep my four lug I'm sticking with my stock five speed. Short shifter w/steel bushings, stock 15" wheels n'all. Just engine (I'm keeping that as stock as possible too) maybe just headers since the TSX exaust headers interfere with the stock swaybar on the EP, but that's it... stock muffler and all. (Maybe a cat delete) Then I'll focus on suspension Front control arm inner (geometery correction) relocation bushings and camber correction balljoints. Inverted tie rod end links and "delrin" steering rack mount bushing to prevent flex when turning under acceleration. Of course a good set of coilovers but I'm aiming to maintain stock ride height (possibly an inch lower MAX) since the McPherson front suspension doesn't respond well to lowering. Typically front springs "should be" stiffer but on the EP2/3 chassis it's actually backwards and the rear springs will be roughly twice as stiff as the front. It won't understeer more than stock. Another SI has a similar set up and it handles 110 percent on the curves. To use the TSX headers I'd have to use the thinner EM1 front sway bar or no sway bar at all and I am after full stock. Strut bar front/rear and chassis bar across the back window that's it. In the far future I'll strip the interior but that's another chapter. There is a way to install factory OEM Brembo option off an RL but you need to use s2000 rotors and I'm keeping the four lug so it's a no go for me. If I buy a second VTEC head (A8 head) I will try to experiment with the "VTEC LOCK" mod cause it has a NATY NATY sound to it. At that point I would get some custom unequal length headers to get the full effect.
Bro that honda was moving!!!! Nicely done
Emilthehun Thanks and it sure is fun! More to come soon enough
First time hearing about this myself, freaking sick bro
Luis Fontanez Thanks 🙏🏻 it’s definitely not common
thank you for making this video so easy to learn
Man this was so fucking dope and its a first to my boy j be going in. good stuff bro i was locked in on the vid the entire time love this video.
SI RICKO Thanks man appreciate it i was hoping it wasn’t boring
Me to!
Ayy Ricko ✌
@@budyeddi5814 Sup bro.
Bro this vid was lit u really know ur single cams and very thorough video
Crx Jojo Thanks I had more but couldn’t fit it in without the video being really long so had to cut it out but I appreciate it man.
I agree parts aren't magically finished in the next frame. You show us how to do it, all the ins and outs busted knuckles and all. Great video!
Awesome idea 👍 great video first time seen this modification!
Thanks as far as i know im the first person to pull it off in a Y7. It has been done plenty in a D16y8 and Z6 and so on but never a Vtec cam in a y7 head :D
Much love from OKC. This was a awesome video man keep em coming. Maybe we can link up and talk cars one day!
CodyDoesIt for sure 😎
This is really good content James.
stuart nordstrom Thank you i appreciate it
terrific content, subbed.
VTEC locked in yo! Good work man! (y)
Thanks! I just did a run and holy sheet ballz its faster haha ill do a video update on its 0-134 time
Great respect bro . Nice video 🔥🔥🔥
Nigga really said I’m bout to make my own vtec. True engineering.
Also have this exact setup, i love the unDer rateD D16....
Awesome video but at 6:47 I thought “he’s gonna smash his hand..” then at 7:00 kill confirmed lol
BreakingSoBe Ha that wasn’t from the hammer I cut my finger open on a piece of metal shard lol 😂
Man I saw this and started busting out laughing. I had the same thought then he said I have a booboo
Michael Burleson hahaha 😂
BreakingSoBe also I was holding the part with my left hand and hammering with my right. The right hand index finger is what got cut so totally opposite hand haha
lmmfao
I'm going to do this with my Y7 for sure!
Thank you for this tutorial
If i have a time i will try it
you gotta love it when manufacturers accidentally on purpose makes it easy to mod their engines :P nice guide
Sir you are a blessing! 🙏🙌
Kris Singh thanks appreciate that 🙏🏻 I try to be.
Once again good job, you know alot about hondas
Thanks many many years of messing with them.
Ohk kl, I always love hondas but it's just last year since I actually start do some work on it with my Dad.
You make the honda's signature engine same like mitsu bro... That why you told to much tyre spin at low rpm...
Anyway...keep it up and save the sohc...
💪💪💪
Great work and keep it up.
Thank you!
Very good video💯💪👍👍👍
the spring went beside the vise to the left when it popped out then you put the vice right on top of it lol, but nice video bro i like seeing diy tech tips like this for upgrades, people say cant and impossible way too much now adays, well you learn something new everyday...
Yea i didn't see it from where i was LOL. Yea i like to do things that are different and it came out amazing with the tune adjusted.
@@TexasHondaChannel yea thats how i am i love diy upgrades, are you gonna do a pull video with the new cam? maybe a comparison video?
Montane West It’s the same camera I have been using just with a new protective case. I’m gonna get another pull video soon.
Dude thanks for the awesome info, my head has been having this weird tick/knock when cold once it's warm it goes away checked valve lash and its good, I also don't think its coming out my block since I inspected bearings. Now that you mentioned about those things going bad I'ma need to check them I'm sure it's one of them.
SGREEFER310 If it’s a vtec head then it probably is. Some times they get stuck and pulling them out and a deep cleaning can usually fix them but not always.
@@TexasHondaChannel yes its a y8 head. Good thing I have a spare head I can take those things off of. Just finished watching the video and it looks like it has sooo much more power. 👍🏼 Thanks again
SGREEFER310 Yea for sure the idle and daily drive cruising and stuff like that needs adjusted with the tune but it might not be a big issue on stock not really sure. I have always just done it to modified and tunable civics. It can cause more wear but the use of higher zinc oil such as Rotella or adding a zinc additive to your oil can prolong the life. Doing it with a bigger race cam will defiantly make it wear down faster but a stock camshaft vtec lobe won’t be enough to cause major damages. I’ll go over all this in a up coming video “Pros and cons of locking vtec”
nice job im so glad your having fun with it. ….#LexusLove
Mike F Thanks Mike!
Thanks for making this video. Been wondering if this could be done for the last few years.
Great works, will this setup cause any variations the idling ? Viewer from Jamaica.
impressive! new sub.
Hey you didn’t mention but when you put the cam shaft I noticed you took the cam gear off and so how did you assume you had your rocket assembly at TDC?
Probably won't be an issue but it's good practice to swap over the cam caps from your motor to keep it matched up with the head. I gave up on popping off the small pin with the spring so I just flipped flopped the other two pins and put a BB in between instead lol.
jockobo That would work and yea I never had a issue doing it this way but it makes sense to swap them over as well.
Awesome job bro! I'm finishing my mustang GT so I can sell it it's time to build a Honda 😁
Ricky Bobby Hell yea!!! I love all vehicles but these Honda’s man are something else.
Nice video , keep pushing and building we look forward to more content
Good work bro show the world
Antonio Miller Feel free to share :)
Hey quick question did you have any issues using the y8 cam camps on the y7 head? Or did you switch to the y7 cam caps?
I did this on my head too last year
Would this only work on a D series? I have a B20z2, I doubt it would be the same but GSR or B16 cams would be nice and I want that sound
How much would you gain/loose if you just swapped the whole head to y8? I have already done the intake and body. Waiting for a rebuild kit before I tear the head off.
Your the man!! 🙏🙏☘️🍻
Michael Burleson Thanks 🙏🏻
@@TexasHondaChannel no problem bro but I almost want to call you the mad scientist lol but for real though great job hopefully one day I'll do mine and you'll be there to say stop you idiot your doing it wrong lol
I just fully built my d17a1 head dissembled and put together with new stuff and a new cam, sounds very aggressive
Tried using the link on your video to order the same parts you used for this conversion but it’s unavailable. Any other links or websites you recommended to use so I can get them
That's awesome it pulls hard 💪🏼
Fernando. B Indeed. Now to get traction and do a proper video
@@TexasHondaChannel it was a good video bro my favorite wheels with Slick's is VMS check them out💪🏼
Fernando. B Yea I can’t afford them right now with moving and life making us broke. I will get some eventually when I get money saved up
I understand bro just keep doing what you're doing you'll get there 💯💪🏼
Is that a d16y8 rocker assembly that you are also swapping over with the y8 cam?
Ive done this be ware of cam n lob wear. And also roller rockers is something to look at. Even vtec cam killer is good to. 9 sec honda has ran vtec lock n it came out good for him. I will try this on my boosted 22psi d16y7. But no y8 at my local wrench apart
Ragged Ridez Yea I am aware of the wear that can occur but I have done it in the past and even after 2yrs of daily driving/ aggressive driving it held up perfectly since it’s the same thing as a vtec killer cam just with extra steps lol and this current setup has seen 30psi since this video went out and it’s amazing. I will be getting a proper pull video soon enough and dyno video!
@@TexasHondaChannel keep up the good work. Hope we can meet one day. Ur good at wrenching bro
@@daniel25u Thank you and just let me know when you wanna meet
Will it also work with an d14z2 or d14a4 engine (ej9 ek hatch) its the same i think the d16y7 has only more ccm
What size drill bit did you use and how long did it take to drill it
I want to do this to my 2015 honda pilot. It has the same j35 as my old gen pilot but it’s got vcm and no vtec for emission reasons.
did you try to hit boost with the tune for the y7 cam?
I just did my 1994 accord wagon but didn't lock them in maybe I'll try it. Do you think it will work ?
Good job 👍👏
TurtleSpeed thanks
What is the power gain? Could i do this with nitrous setup?
link to the vtech camshaft ypu bought? planning on doing this to my 98 civic lx.
Bro watching your vids is making me bout to buy another civic eg or ek lol whichever I can find for a good price
Joey Dc4 heck yea man
JDM electrical tape finger mod? Haha.
I wonder if you can weld the 3 pcs instead, maybe a stupid idea. great videos btw.
Hell ya james
Lol that Volvo sounds like a hurricane. My brothers veloster too has that huge whooshing intake noise ( not turbo or blow off just strait intake )
Will this method work on d17a1? Dont know much this is my first honda..
Good shit
I'm gonna have to do this in my d16zc
Hey what gasket you use for that intake manifold?
The moral of the video is. VTEC will always kick in yo!
Do you have a link to your exhaust setup?
Doing this for sure got 2 y8 heads and a y7 head just sitting was gona do y8 head swap but hell im gona give that a try then maybe do the head swap and see difference
devon snitchler For sure it’s really cool on a NA setup because it has that vtec sound even at lower rpm now it does have that tuning that it needs or adjustments for crusing or idle but I would love to hear how it does on a stock setup without a chipped or tuneable ecu.
@@TexasHondaChannel i did the swap and so far its running great on stock y7 ecu. My only issue im having is with the idle so yes im sure it will need a tune but for most part as of now it runs grear its definitely a noticeable difference and its very easy btw instead of punching out those springs in those rockers i used some bearings from some rc car pars i had laying around the same diameter as the stud things in the rocker as a spacer and got away without having to get more of those pins or doubling up with the longer ones
Update it blew a headgasket gona be doing the y8 head swap
Have a d15y5 took the Roller rocker assembly but one of the springs came out what do I do
Is that ok on PH16 head for honda civic ESI?
Does this work on a d17a1? So I can use cams designed for a d17a2
Can I do this to a b18a1 using parts from b18c1?
Can you do this to a a6 and a d15b1
will this work on a ls b series is what i wonder
This is amazing.
That wastegate is awesome
Should work for mine hopefully cuz I have the y8 ECU
It will work
Can you do this with a b18b1 and vtec cams?
I’m gunna do this tomorrow I have a ton of v Tex heads laying around
Make sure to watch my other pros and cons video before doing it just so you know the risks i failed to mention
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Random question can I put a vtec cam in a b20 non vtec head?
okay you convinced me to do this haha. the rocker setup you locked, did you use an extra y7 or put the y8 with locked cam in your y7 head? i got a y8 head layin around
It is the stock d16y7 head with a y8 cam and y8 rocker assembly. Then used a spare d16y8 rocker assembly for the longer lock pins.
can i do on my D16y4?? thanks 🙏
Badass! *SAVE THE SOHC*
Ever try this on a d15b1 or 2?
daaaaaammm !!! civic was moooovin!!
I need to get a new video of it since my tuner @michael sengvixay adjusted the tune. It runs amazing now!!!! Pulls even harder!
@@TexasHondaChannel i was gonna do to my y7 with no tune stock ecu...i even had a vtec comp cam laying around with bigger lobes! heeh what u think..?
AndY CaPP Well with bigger race cams it can cause wear faster but I will have a video out on that as soon as possible. The pros and cons
Thank you so much for showing this! So it always needs a tune due to the high cam profile? Even if using a stock non vtec ecu I assume the fuel map would have to be changed as well as perhaps some timing? Also, you mentioned getting an aftermarket camshaft, would an aftermarket Y8 cam be BETTER than an aftermarket Y7 cam? Or is the height of the cam all that matters basically.
The stock y8 cam on the vtec lobe is much bigger than the stock y7 and results in more power on the low end/mid range and top end power over the stock y7 and you don't have to swap the entire head over just a cam swap. The tune has already been adjusted but it wasn't much that it needed so not sure if it will do it on a stock ecu, We will experiment soon enough on that aspect.
@@TexasHondaChannel thanks
Vtec really is to run a gas saver and a fast car on high-end rpms.. but to make it a performance base car u don't need vtec just a higher cam profile..
Can I do this to a non vetc b20 motor?
Have a/c and power steering?
hey, i have a electric style oil pressure gauge, i was wondering if i could unplug my factory oil pressure sensor and just connect gauge wire to it? or tap into it...? or does gauge need special oil pressure sensor or extra oil pressure sensor my gauge didn't come with?
Pretty sure it needs their sensor style for it.