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When you speak about what Paul said, do you also refer to the six books falsely, lyingly, attributed to Paul? How about 2nd Peter and the Epistle of Jude, which all serious academics also say are forgeries? Does your god really spread his word thru forgeries? It's like starting an economy using a mix of genuine and counterfeit currency. Makes zero sense.
@@eew8060 I pray that some of the folks that this pastor speak to reach a saving knowledge of who Christ Jesus really is. One life saved from hellfire is absolutely worth all the hard work. God bless.
Indeed, I know people that are believers but still say there is no point in discussing with JW people becuause the discussion will lead nowhere, very disappointed by this way of thinking.... Well, I think with a little bit of research, love and full guidance from the Holy Spirit, it can be done so nicely. Jeff surely proves how discussions with them can be so fruitful and eye opening even for those who grew up with these teachings.
than clearly you do not follow Jeff - still doesn't matter - these women do not want the truth and are incapable of following logic, they do not want God
@@AskRemy So then, leave them in their deceitful state becuase they are a lost case anyway? I think we are to sow the seed as we do with other people in general. Indeed, if you want to speak with them, you need patience, knowledge about their teachings, great knowledge of the Bible and a humble heart and the motivation NEEDS to be love. Let's remember we have the Truth, we are to deliver it then it is God's job to convict their hearts. There are quite some examples of JW members who came to faith after the true Gospel was transmitted to them.
@@AskRemy of course they want God! They're just deceived. May God have mercy and guide them. Jeff is deceived too. The One God is Jesus Christ's God. And Jesus is the Son of God. May God have mercy and guide all of us. It isn't that believers don't want God. My heart weeps. For the oppression and confusion both false Watchtower and false trinity dogma have caused.
@@AskRemy I get what you say, they are so rooted in their false teaching that many times it seems pointles talking to them but often we can see this level of hardening in unbelievers, but we do our duty of shining the light. That's our job. People may not show on the outside but the truth may do its work slowly from the inside. God can make them see also and He can do by His people who are willing to be used. We so often wait for immediate results but often God works not as we might expect.
I need to watch more of your channel, 2 Mormons just came to my doorstep to preach to me, and I didn't try and convert them and stop them from preaching false Gospel because I didn't feel I was equipped enough to do so. I need to read and prioritize the Bible, pray for me and these Mormon missionaries.
I watched an Apologia Studios video for the first time almost 5 years ago. It was Jeff speaking to Mormons. I was very interested because my mil is Mormon and my husband exmormon. What hit me was I did not know the Bible well enough and didn’t feel I could share the gospel. It was extremely convicting and pushed me to begin spending time in Gods word daily. I have watched many videos from Apologia Studios and some other Pastors that help me understand the culture of that time. I hope this video has the same effect on you. Apologia Studios has tons of videos on witnessing to Mormons and other no Christian groups. Praise God that you clicked on this video!
I would say rather we should stay in the Word more to have them ready on our lips. I am struggling a little with that myself and watching to Mitch RUclips
ISSAIAH 42:8 New Living Translation “I am the LORD; that is my name! ( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,) nor share my praise with carved idols. New International Version Matthew 16:27 (For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY ) with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES ◄ John 17:5 ► New International Version And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.) ISSAIAH 43:10 New International Version “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.) BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME. THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. King James Bible acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. ◄ John 8:24 ► New International Version I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.) BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE) < Issiah 43:11 > New International Version I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.) ◄ Matthew 1:21 ► New International Version She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR. ◄ John 16:15 ► New International Version All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.” WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST. EVERYTHING. ◄ Acts 20:28 ► NEW KING JAMES Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.) HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD? ◄ Hebrews 10:8 ► New International Version First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.) GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW. ◄ John 6:29 ► New International Version Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” ◄ John 8:24 ► New International Version I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.” ◄ Hebrews 10:5 ► New International Version Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; ) GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS. THE WORD WHO IS GOD. JOHN 1:1 New International Version In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH. ◄ John 1:14 ► New International Version (THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. philippians 2:6-7 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH. JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT. HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE. New Living Translation JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live. ◄ John 10:18 ► New International Version NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME, -(HIS LIFE)- (BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.) I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.” HOSEA 6:6 FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE and not sacrifice, THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings. WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS. King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17 I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Acts 17:31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead. King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us Psalm 100:3 Know that the Lord Himself is God; It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture. Isaiah 66:16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh, And those slain by the Lord will be many. James 4:12 (There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor? ◄ Matthew 10:28 ► King James Bible And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ◄ Revelation 1:8 ► New International Version (“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” ◄ Hebrews 1:8 ► New International Version BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE. JOHN 8 17-18 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.” ◄ John 14:1 ► New International Version “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. King James Bible We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. ◄ Romans 7:6 ► New International Version But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
I am 62yrs old. I was always confused about Jesus and God. I thank you very much for this information. It truly was heart felt. Your words brought some tears to my eyes. I thank you Sir for your words again. God bless you and your family.
Saw in a movie where a guy in a vision saw the three, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit. He asked which of you are God. They simultaneously said I AM. A friend used the example of cutting an apple. Can we comprehend this? No... but we accept it by faith, and relationally, we experience it. How does God dwell inside every human in a personal way? We can not.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28 is very clear about Jesus being subject to God. There are more of this kinds of verses in the bible than there are of those used to explain the trinity. Jesus prayed and relied on God to have his assignment on earth to be successful
(John 8:40) But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Why did the Jews want to kill Jesus? Because he spoke the truth which he had heard from God. Why are people trying to 'kill' JWs? Same reason. (Matthew 24:9) “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. Like Jesus, JWs just cannot be ignored.
@emmanuel uzu There are just as many that say He was God in human form. BOTH are true. But let's use the passage you chose, 1 Cor. 15. This passage affirms the trinity. When all prophesy has been fulfilled He, as Jesus Christ will return to where He was before creation. In Genesis God said 'Let us make man in our image'. Jesus said 'Before Abraham was I am'. There are several passages that affirm this. John 1:1-2 agrees with Genesis. John 17:5 Col.1:17 Jesus Christ was God's miraculous revelation of Himself. Once all has been completed He and the Father will return to their original ONE. Can we really understand this? Can we explain how He did this in human logic and reason? No. All who are born again KNOW He is God in flesh who gave Himself for our sin because no 'son of Adam' could.
@@emmanueluzu-u2t Jesus Christ is: 1. YHWH and Elohim (Hebrews 1:8-10)(John 20:28) 2. YHWH of Hosts (Isaiah 6:5)(John 12:41) 3. Elohim (Genesis 1:1)(Colossians 1:16)(John 1:1-3) 4. The Great I AM “EGO EIMI” (John 8:58) (Exodus 3:14) 5. ADONAY (Isaiah 6:8)(John 12:41) 6. EL GIBOR “The Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) 7. The Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8) 8. The Beginning and the End (Revelation 1:8) 9. The First and the Last (Revelation 1:11) 10. The ALMIGHTY GOD (Revelation 1:8) 11. The Creator of EVERYTHING that has ever been created, including Lucifer and the entire angelic realm. (Colossians 1:15-18) 12. Jesus was and is the one and only God in a human body.(Colossians 2:9)
Love this video! As a former JW this hits home. Thank you Jeff and Apologia for continuing to preach and display love to those who are lost and deceived.
If you don’t mind, anyway you could share what pulled you out? Besides obviously the Lord dragging you out. I guess I’m asking from a human level, what started to open your eyes and what eventually was the final straw? I ask because I have really close friends who are stuck in the watchtower society
@@Johnnyprc Thank you for the question. I did not come to the decision to question and change my faith lightly. I prayed, studied, and did my own research to come to this conclusion. Everyday JWs ask people to research their faith, if anyone believes they have the truth, it should stand up to scrutiny. I encourage you to pray, to look at unbiased sources, research the history of the religion, take a close look at the bible translation you are using, and let God lead you. 1 Cor 15:20-28, The divinity of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 1:4) The sovereignty of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 14:9) Our justification rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 4:25) Our regeneration rests on the resurrection of Jesus (1 Peter 1:3) Our ultimate resurrection rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 8:11) v.27,28, "For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all. (NASB)" The submission the Son does not come from "inferiority," Jesus existed in the form of God. (Philippians 2:6) While Christ was on earth, He did not seek His own glory but the Father's. In the same manner the Father also gives glory to the Son by placing "all things in subjection under His feet." The subjection is in administrative order of the Godhead. A son will always be in subjection to his father, even if both are equal in substance. God the Father will always be God the Father, and God the Son will always be God the Son, and for all eternity they will always relate to each other as Father and Son.
@@haroldbailey9011 I do not mind at all Harold. Unfortunately we cannot will our friends and loved ones away from a false religion. My initial desire was to prove that the Watchtower was correct, if it is the "truth" it can be questioned, it can be scrutinized, it can be challenged. I asked God for guidance and wisdom. My first question revolved around the deity of Christ. The same names for Jehovah in the OT are used for Jesus in the NT. Jesus claimed to be God, the religious leaders new this and they tried to stone Him for blasphemy. I encourage you to keep speaking with your friends, plant those small seeds and hopefully it will urge them to do their own research and come to the correct conclusion. It is not in God's nature to lead someone in the wrong direction when they sincerely ask Him.
My mother was a jehovahs witness, at one point her brother who was a Christian was praying for her, she got sick and had a vision of two angels fighting for her, one of the devil and one of the Lord, the Lords angel won, and she immediately left Jehovahs witnesses and was led to follow the true Jesus of the Bible.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
ISSAIAH 42:8 New Living Translation “I am the LORD; that is my name! ( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,) nor share my praise with carved idols. New International Version Matthew 16:27 (For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY ) with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES ◄ John 17:5 ► New International Version And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.) ISSAIAH 43:10 New International Version “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.) BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME. THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. King James Bible acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. ◄ John 8:24 ► New International Version I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.) BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE) < Issiah 43:11 > New International Version I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.) ◄ Matthew 1:21 ► New International Version She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR. ◄ John 16:15 ► New International Version All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.” WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST. EVERYTHING. ◄ Acts 20:28 ► NEW KING JAMES Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.) HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD? ◄ Hebrews 10:8 ► New International Version First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.) GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW. ◄ John 6:29 ► New International Version Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” ◄ John 8:24 ► New International Version I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.” ◄ Hebrews 10:5 ► New International Version Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; ) GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS. THE WORD WHO IS GOD. JOHN 1:1 New International Version In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH. ◄ John 1:14 ► New International Version (THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. philippians 2:6-7 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH. JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT. HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE. New Living Translation JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live. ◄ John 10:18 ► New International Version NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME, -(HIS LIFE)- (BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.) I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.” HOSEA 6:6 FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE and not sacrifice, THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings. WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS. King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17 I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Acts 17:31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead. King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us Psalm 100:3 Know that the Lord Himself is God; It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture. Isaiah 66:16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh, And those slain by the Lord will be many. James 4:12 (There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor? ◄ Matthew 10:28 ► King James Bible And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ◄ Revelation 1:8 ► New International Version (“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” ◄ Hebrews 1:8 ► New International Version BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE. JOHN 8 17-18 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.” ◄ John 14:1 ► New International Version “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. King James Bible We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. ◄ Romans 7:6 ► New International Version But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
Of course there is a lot of things we can't explain. Like all the prophecies ever since the book of Genesis. But the truth is the truth, so far all the prophecies have come to pass. The bible says that Jesus became a man. New International Version Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;) In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh). What was he? He was God, one member of the triune God. Because God exists in 3 father, son and holyspirit. So before Jesus took on flesh he was one with the father. Sharing the glory with the Father , self existing with the father in total harmony, union. THE bible says Jesus took on the form of a servant . In order to take on the role of a servant You could not have been a servant. Jesus said if you don't believe me believe the works the miracles I done. New International Version But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” It is clear that Jesus was doing the things That only God can do. If doing the things that only God can do Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind. What more can you possibly want he lived out a life greater than anything written can explain. He lived a sinless and perfect life. No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all. NOONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE. HE LIVE THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE. HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD CAN DO. HE FORGIVES SINS. HE GIVES LIFE. HE IS THE SAVIOR.
I’m struggling a bit, I’ve given my life to Christ. But I’m struggling cause I don’t understand if we’re supposed to worship Jesus, i have been. But would He correct me if He were here? Cause He always pointed to the father and I guess i just need help a but
have you seen how he behaves when the same approach is used on him... it doesn't turn out well... he dodges, he says he doesn't have time, he says to send him an email that he will not respond to... and the other person exercised even more calm and humility than Jeff offers...
Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 I see we found one of the Muslims....... however, Jesus is God "incarnate" or God in Flesh (see 1 tim 3:16) God's nature does not change God's character does not change God's plan does not change and yes... God planned from the beginning to manifest himself in flesh at the foundation of time.... but Jesus is not your King is he?
The issue I have is the insertion of people to make it look an organic conversation.Happens quite a lot in his videos to make it look random but there clearly inserted
Psalms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible) (luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son (John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.
Jeff’s street evangelism is how I was introduced to Jeff’s ministry. Needless to say, it’s been a huge blessing and I’ve learned a lot from not only from his debates, sermons, and podcast, but also from watching him share the gospel with Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, pro choice advocates, and everyone in between. Seeing him use apologetics with real life application is inspiring. He’s one of the very, very few I watch doing this that truly exhibit the fruit of the spirit when he hits the streets sharing the gospel. Firm, consistent, but with a posture of grace. May God continue to bless his entire ministry. I pray the seeds planted grow with these JW.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Sir, Jesus IS God as explicitly taught in scripture. I encourage you to look at Greek and Hebrew objectively and not through the lenses of false doctrines. You spamming, copying and pasting a comment throughout the comment section doesn’t make it true, either. Micheal is a created being, not Christ, who IS God.
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries FACT - The BIble NEVER called Jesus as CREATOR OR MAKER but the Bible called Jesus as MADE, COME INTO BEING, GIVEN LIFE. FACTs that you cannot deny
It's absolutely stunning how interactions such as this can remain cordial throughout the extent of the conversation. When both parties remain level-headed and sincere. Not being heady or quick to anger. This was an incredible video showing people of two differing views on a subject. The gentleman that came up and interjected 20min in was right on the money. This was a beautiful dialogue.
@@tongakhan230 Depends on YOUR definition of the TRUTH. For you the TRUTH means being baptized into AND in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. If im wrong, correct me, it ALWAYS comes back to the organisation.
@@Xbot4Life : Here is some help. (John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had BELIEVED HIM: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.” Obviously there is only ONE TRUTH. Once the Christian Congregation was organized after Jesus' resurrection, TRUTH became apparent. How many organizations is Jesus the HEAD of?
Read our comment - both parties sold out to their TRADITIONS. Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians and has an ERROR in spirit. Paul's clear teaching is found preserved for us in 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6. Time to flee tradition. 1 John 4 v 6. Please do due diligence and read our extensive comment. ❤ Paul and Lynda
Tonga is a very confused JW, so you have to exuse him. Mat 24:14 is a parable, as is made clear from Luke 12:41 when Peter says, “Lord, are you telling this parable for us or for all?” Who is the faithful and discrete slave (FDS)? Is it the church, the 144,000, a slave class, the GB, etc.? If Mat 24 was prophetic instead of a parable (as is clear from the context) then wouldn't it be clear who the FDS is? If Jesus chose a group to be his FDS, wouldn't they (and others know)? Yes! Yet JW's keep changing who the FDS is. Today the GB claims to be the FDS using circular reasoning (begging the question fallacy): 1. How do you know God chose the GB? Because the GB said so. 2. How do you know the GB are telling the truth? Because God chose the GB. So unless you drink the cool-aid, you know that the GB isn't the FDS. What is God's Kingdom: The kingdom of God is the present dynamic rule of God which exists alongside the eschatological hope of the full manifestation of God’s rule on earth when Jehovah Jesus comes to rule physically on earth (Rev 20:4). Contrary to what JW's teach, Jesus began his rule in 30/33 AD when he ascended to the right hand of the Father where he rules over all reatioon (Eph 1:20-23).
@@derekjohnson8428 JW's are not Christians. To be a Christian, you must believe that Jesus is Jehovah (Rom 10:9-13; Kurios is being used in place of the divine name).
As an ex-Jehovah's witness this was the hardest thing to understand but I'm glad it's making more sense the more I watch these kinds of videos. Thank you for explaining so diligently. I am so glad I moved on from the religious trauma and finally believe in the trinity.
That's something I wrestled with for a while and only in recent history came to appreciate. God knows you and I perfectly and deeply, yet, no matter how hard we try to understand and grasp Him, we hardly can because His being is far beyond our own. Sometimes I wonder what my dog thinks of me / my life. She sees me get dressed for work, leave, come back 8+ hours later, sometimes come home with groceries.. She can try all she wants to understand me and my life, and never can or will, yet I understand her immensely. All she NEEDS to do is trust me.. love me.. and knowing why I work, where our house came from, and all that extra stuff is beyind her ability to comprehend and doesnt matter. But I'm just a tick above her 'glory'. & My 'glory' is likened to a filthy rag compared to God's glory! The Trinity isn't easy to grasp because we have an infinitely powerful and incredible God who's capable of things we can't realistically wrap our heads around. The ground doesn't understand the flower. The flower doesn't understand the bee. The bee doesn't understand the dog. The dog doesn't understand the human. The human doesn't understand God. It's a beautiful dynamic you can't help but appreciate because it's the cost of having an all perfect and all powerful God. ❤
I had to deal with a lot of fear opening up my mind to learning what others believe. And it was hard to actually validate that I identify with another interpretation of scripture. @@headsofhiphop
Jeff is not a pastor. He is a representative of the fairly recent heretical Protestant 30:17 religion. The term pastor is reserved for those who have apostolic succession as sacred scripture teaches us. Christ said he would protect his one holy apostolic church with the spirit of truth - and it’s not Jeff’s Newfangled processing version of so-called Christianity. I wouldn’t even consider Jeff a Christian, he’s a protestant. He has rejected those who Christ sent. His Bible is missing seven books! For goodness sake. Anyone who actually knows church history knows that protestants are new on the scene - they are the wide road that Christ warned about straight to hell.
Dean, how do you know he's deceived? What if you're the one who's deceived, but your pride prevents you from seeing it? Lemme guess - not possible huh?
@@mattr.1887 I have been studying my Bible every single day for the past 3 years, and four to five days a week for the two years before that and I can tell you without thinking twice about it, He is 100% deceived. I have almost crucified my pride all the way down to little or nothing. I don't think pride has anything to do with it. Blessings to you
Perfecting timing! I work with a Jehovah witness and I share the gospel to him all of the time. Besides sharing the true gospel and the true Christ which is first and foremost the number one thing. Being an example of a Godly Christian is also a powerful testimony. He couldn’t comprehend a time that I forgave someone at work. He couldn’t for the life of him wrap his head around the fact that I could have mercy one someone so quick and so easily. It’s because he has never been eternally forgiven. Pray for my friend Matt please.
@@janetcavazos3133 oh boy...😢 Yours is the typical, defensive, unloving response from a JW who completely misses the point. It's sad and illustrates the OPs point. Be blessed
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
BIBLE TRUTH Do you wish to learn the truth? Are you hungering and thirsty for it? Like a great boat, the stern of the world is fastly sinking. But the bow is the only way you can get out of it. Many I tell you are at the stern and crying out, this is where you need to be, this is the way. Matthew 7:13 But God is forewarning you all, there'll be many false teachers in the time of the end. 2 Peter 2:1 But the true worshipers will be recognized by this. John 4:23 Isaiah 43:10 They will go about preaching the Good News of Gods heavenly Kingdom. John 4:23 Matthew 24:14 It is written about them, that you may recognize them. They will go publicly preaching and how to house. Acts. 5:42 20:20 It is written about them, that God's name will be attached to them. Acts.15: 14-17 Psalms 83:18 Jehovah God takes no delight in the death of anyone wicked but that he should turn back and keep alive. 2 Peter 3:9 For anyone who listens to these things will keep living. Have faith in the true God, The sovereign Lord, JEHOVAH. John 17:3 Isaiah 65:13 Take a look, please at this video, tap on the link below. You wish to learn the truth? Are you hungry and thirsty for it? ruclips.net/video/L_GqkD4VLq0/видео.htmlsi=1EcTDtl--wKRa_rZ
You contradict the apostle Paul's words with your 3 persons in one God claim. The apostle Paul said: " To us there is one God , the Father...." ( 1 Corinthians 8: 6 ) This one God the Father is Jesus' *only * true God, whom he prayed to and taught that the true worshippers would be worshipping. ( John 17: 3; 4: 22-24.) As regards, Jesus, the apostle John concludes his chapter in connection to Jesus' identity: " But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name. ( John 20: 31.)
@@celticmarmite6048 Why don't you guys read the *_REST_* of scripture instead of parroting the same scriptures over and over again? Do you think such a superficial and shallow reading of scripture is enough to disprove the trinity - a doctrine that has survived down through the centuries? Let me show you how verses such as 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 John 17:3 do not pose any problems for trinitarians. The problem with how John 17:3 is being used is that it doesn't prove anything at all unless you first load it with a unitarian presupposition. You have to first start off with the assumption that only one *_person_* can be the "only true God". Otherwise the argument fails completely. From a trinitarian perspective there *_IS_* only one true God. Therefore, Jesus calling the Father the "only true God" no more disqualifies himself as being that same one true God any more than Jesus addressing someone else as "man", means that he himself is not a man. Jesus saying that the Father is the only true God was not only a truth statement that in no in way contradicts the doctrine of the trinity, it was all Jesus could possibly utter at that time. Jesus could not POSSIBLY tell anyone at that time that he was God incarnate. For those people who are perishing the gospel is "veiled", which means that Jesus TRUE identity was deliberately hidden until AFTER his resurrection. Why otherwise do you think Jesus repeatedly went out of his way to hide his identity and hinted that something way too controversial for him to say would only be revealed after he returned to the Father? What do you think he was referring to?
Similarly, 1 Corinthians 8:6 does disprove the trinity: "Yet for us there is but *one God,* the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but *one Lord,* Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live." I don't know why unitarians even bother refering to this verse, because using the SAME ARGUMENT we would have to conclude that the Father is not "Lord", which we _know_ from verses such as Matthew 11:25 simply isn't true. Despite this fact Paul says that there is only ONE Lord. If rather than creating a contradiction in scripture you look at the context of what Paul is saying you will see something completely different than what unitarians want this verse to say. Instead of trying to pit the Father against the Son the preceding verse shows us that Paul is actually pitting the "ONE God and ONE Lord" against "MANY gods and MANY lords":
"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”) (1 Corinthians 8:5) This passage has to do with idols, not with with whether or not Jesus is God, and the fact that he places Jesus with the Father rather than among the "so-called gods" proves that Jesus is NOT "a god" as the Watchtower would have us believe. Furthermore, the word Lord, when applied to Jesus, actually _MEANS_ God! Paul consistently used "God" and "Lord" because calling both of them "God" would be confusing and lead to polytheism which is a false teaching. If you don't think Lord means God then why do you think there are multiple verses in the NT concering Jesus where "kyrios" cross-references to YHWH in the OT? This is one example: "a voice of one calling in the wilderness, *‘Prepare the way for the Lord,* make straight paths for him.’" (Matthew 3:3) Compare it to Isaiah 40:3 and see who it refers to. Here is another: “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13) See Joel 2:32. We also have entire passages in Hebrews 1 that in the OT refer to YHWH being applied to Jesus, where the author claims explicitly that they were written "about the Son". This is because Jesus IS the YHWH of the old testament! If you want more evidence of this fact then ask me and I will show you something that stands in TOTAL contradiction of the Watchtowers "Big God/little god" theory.
The first Apologia Studio video that I watched (5 years ago) was Pastor Jeff witnessing to Mormons. I’m already a Christian, BUT the video convicted me that I did not know the Bible well enough. I’ve been sincerely working on that! Daily reading Gods word. Thank-you Jeff and Apologia Studios!!
A true Christian has the right foundation and listens to Paul. Jeff read from Colossians but did not HEAR. True Christians are of 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6 and I Cor 11 v 3 and will NOT receive a different Jesus and spirit - see 2 Cor. Read our comment to avoid error in spirit - 1 John 4 v 6 ❤ Paul and Lynda from Earnestly Contending for the faith Ministry
Jeff is wrong. Jesus has a god. Ephesians 1:17, 2 Corinthians 1:3 and 1 Peter 1:3. The trinity is false teaching. What is the name of the Holy Spirit? Three persons in one God. Father’s name is Jehovah, Son’s name is Jesus. I thought they were coequal?
The JWs are non-belligerent up to a point. Once the congregation learns who you are and detects that you are a challenge to the "flock", things get dicey. I studied with some local JW leadership for about six weeks. Eventually they got up and stormed out calling me a "Wolf-like one". The congregation was instructed to have nothing to do with me.
They already have it. The so called pastor is pushing a pagan doctrine. Research the origins of the trinity and you will see it is as pagan as christmas.
The holy spirit belongs to Jesus' own God. The spirit *of* Jehovah had to settle upon Jesus. Isaiah 61:1 " The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek." The spirit is not a seperate person.....the Jews never taught that..the Jewish/ Christian. ..the apostle Paul taught me that there is one God, and names the actual person, who consitutes the wholeone namely the Father alone=God. Which person did Paul teach was God at 1 Corinthians 8: 6? The Holy Spirit, the Son, or the Father? " To us there is One God, the Father...." Paul's words. In contrast to this man tickling your ears. Psalm 83: 18 also states that Jehovah alone ( singular ) is the Most High over all the earth. The divine name is minted on ancient coins. Father glorify YOUR name...Jesus words. ( John 12 : 28 ) Jehovah will glorify it again.!
@@celticmarmite6048 You are just another puppet of the demons... You are using 1 Cor. 8:6 to disprove the deity of CHRIST, but you are ignoring the end of this verse "and one LORD Jesus Christ..." Deuteronomy 4 and 6 and many other chapters are clear GOD is ONE LORD and there is NO other Savior.
Trinity or Twonity is a teaching that is not found the Bible. If Jesus was the image of God so is man was created with the image and likeness of God. But that doesn’t mean we are God. There also a teaching in the Bible we’re Jesus says “the Father is greater than me. “. Jesus was also ask how he was able to perform miracles . And Jesus replied “ I do this thing not of myself but the Father who works through me. He shares God glory doesn’t mean he is God. So are we(the Church )glorified through Christ but doesn’t we are Gods. Why believe the trinity doctrine that toriginated from the false church .
@@jonathanagbayani4210because in his Earthly life, His Father was greater. Why? God was not in flesh, he did not feel pain or flail emotions. Jesus HUMBLED Himself to God, making Him “weaker.” Lest you forget John 10?
I thought you thought Jesus was lord, so why don’t you just say thank Jesus said I think the Lord? You guys are extremely confusing with your belief because how can you believe that God is three and three and then say that Jesus did this and then, in another breath, say that the Lord did this.. protestant Christians literally make no sense, despite them always trying to judge JW’s for their beliefs. 🤡😂
AS LDS (Christian) it's always a pleasure to speak the Glories of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jehovah, is the great Equalizer OF the masses. He doesn't desire there to be any disputations among us. Love and Bless each other always. I minister WITH ANY one who need my help. It could be a prayer, a meal, yard work, fix a gate. I don't care ~ We just love serving in a pure way. I pray everyday to bless the life of someone. Miraculously our paths cross, and we are all EDIFIED together. We also serve those who are recovering addicts, even gay couples. We did 12-Step meetings in County Jails for 3 years. ABSOLUTELY LOVED these incredible Citizens. Their FAITH IS PURE. Be Brave and BE NICE. Stop ragging on the LDS Church. It's just not "in the Christian way". Rejoice in the commonalities. There is no need in what you are doing. None. Major on the Majors, Not the minors. Just SERVE, more doing, less yacking, Please.
@@danstephensen9032 He will continue to do the work he is doing because that is what the Lord has commanded us to do. The key word in “Christian” is “Christ”!! He is the center of things, and we follow Him, and what He and His Apostles taught us. Your opinions on religion and tolerance are less than “minor”.
@@donkeytooth BIBLE is the only book which: heals, guides, judge, warns, helps. Bible guides souls out from Babylon. Bible helps to let go from Babylonian entertainments. Bible helps us see, what has value. Bible fills souls with knowledge, with peace. Bible clears out future, for both, for the saved and for the lost. Bible gives us stories from which to learn, and through which GOD warns us, the generations lived after. Don+t stay muslim, catholic, Hindu, new ager, atheists, ignorant, satanic, Mormons, jehova Whitnesses. dont be a thief and a robber. John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. Religions are masonic lies, false ways into heaven which masons have made. Follow not nor believe masons, who give you lies after lies. Seek out CHRIST, follow HIM and leave lies behind and your old life in the BABYLON: Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." Good job brother!
@John Schaefer ask the holy spirit to help you, brother! Scripture says he will bring to your memory everything he said. Receive and believe it, and stay in the word!❤
Thanks so much for posting this and for talking in the first place. You really approached those women with grace and Truth and gentleness. I learned from your exchange. God bless
I am teaching an apologetics class tomorrow on the JW's. The approach and discussion were spot on. I love your heart for the lost and confused. Thank you so much!
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created. The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century. Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God. Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him. 1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God. Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God. Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God. Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God. 1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God. John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God. John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped. John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God. There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God. There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.” There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God. The trinity is a false doctrine.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@@Mr.DC3.1914 the linchpin is Revelations 3:14 - created. No other Scripture is direct as Apostle John’s revelation about eschatology. You can argue night and day like the Bereans (Acts 17:11). However, the Trinitarians will either accept κτίσεως - creation (pronounced ktiseōs) - or they will engage and debate. When you do engage in their debate explain Matthew 19:4 and Mark 10:6 where Jesus refers to our Father as the Creator. Thereby, you can reintroduce how Jesus is the beginning of creation as depicted in Revelations.
I grow a garden every year at my home. I go around the neighborhood & give away vegetables. I came across a JW couple. Just gave them some vegetables. They wanted to talk about the kingdom of God. Unexpected blessing the two showed up to my house today. We talked for an hour. I learned a lot & so did they. Looking forward to sharing my faith again & keeping the door open for future discussions about Jesus.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Christian here!!!! I LOVED THIS!!!!! New Subscriber here!!!! I new JH witnesses had different studies and even visited a JH Hall with a friend and was curious what they actually believed if they say they follow the Bible! Great! Knowledgeable! Respectful! Conversation! Thank you,
I wish the title wasn’t so click baity but I’m guilty for clicking. This conversation was excellent! So respectful and loving, what a picture of love. Well done Jeff!
It's awesome that they listened for that long! It seems unusual nowadays for JW's to have discussions. I was born into and raised as a JW, but several years ago I came to Jesus. And with God's grace, I was able to also wake up my dad. Sadly, most of my family is still in. My dad passed away a few years ago (I still can't help but cry and miss him every day), but he loved God so much and was so much happier in freedom in Christ. God Bless you for trying to reach them. JW's are very difficult, but it's not hopeless.
There no trinty in the scriptures only in pagan minds I can give you in the beginning was the word and the word was with TON THEON GOD and the word was THEOS a god we’re is the trinity there ?
Thank you for this. There have been JW around the corner from my office for the past few months and I could not figure out how to approach them. This encourages me to do so. What a pleasant conversation. To Christ be the glory.
How may I ask is one going to approach JWs? With what? JWs are being pulled out by God from all religions. They know what the religions they left teach. They have taken this command seriusly. (Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
Pastor Durbin, your zeal and courge to spread the gospel are always an inspiration. I pray that one day I'll be able to be as fearless. God Bless you and all you endeavor to pursue.
@aw4724 To say those don't happen in JW is just false, Jesus was very clear about his deity. Only when you contort the scripture does it bring uncertainty. But please understand in love I say this it seems instead of allowing scripture to speak for itself you are trying to comport human ideas and understanding. Please don't hear what I'm not saying, I'm not saying we lay aside our intellect and reasoning when we approach the scripture.
Just had 2 JW’s at my doorstep & it was the 2nd time they came. I got to share the gospel as we discussed 2 important topics: 1) Deity of Jesus & 2) Hell being eternal damnation, please pray w/ me for Tim & Fiyumi. I pray they come a 3rd time & we can continue to discuss this! Jeff, thanks for the help & great example. as an 8 year old Christian that’s only 26 years old I have so much to learn.
Ever read of any disciples of Jesus going around sharing the idea that Jesus was God? (Matthew 10:7) As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ Jesus' disciples will preach about God's Kingdom. Matthew 24:14 is being fulfilled by JWs. People who sit at home surely cannot be doing any fulfilling of Bible prophecy. Just something to think about.
Why did this get me emotional?! This was beautiful. I commend Jeff for his gracefulness and patience in his explanation of the texts. I pray this encounter is the start of regeneration for these image-bearers of God.
I agree. This got me teary. His message is so beautiful, the good news is, by God’s grace, truly Good. This pastor’s message was delivered with a sternness and yet with such love. I wish I could be a fraction of the man that he is. This is what Jesus wants from all of us.
What regeneration? JW's have the absolute true understanding of Scripture. Col 1:15 in the NWT gives the correct meaning when speaking of Jesus creating "all other things". He obviously didn't create himself and several other Scriptures confirm that Jesus was created by Jehovah. (Revelation 3:14) ..These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION BY GOD. :
@@djparsons7363 He was the beginning of creation because all things were created through Him, as per John 1:3 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (KJV) JWs bear false witness.
@@Jschmuck8987 That's what I mean by twisting the Scriptures to promote a false narrative. He was the firstborn which means of all the things that were created, Jesus was the first. That is what firstborn means, the beginning of the Father's generative power. (De 21:17); That's why the NWT says "all OTHER things" at Col, 1:16, because it makes clear the truth, that Jesus didn't create himself nor is he God. Non JW's lie repeatedly.
@@djparsons7363 The point Jeff made at the 7:16 mark (I think it completely went over those two women’s heads and most viewers here’s head as well) were very bad points because if you look at other parts of the Bible, the word, “all”, use here at Colossians 1:16 does also have the meaning “all other” meaning as well. Take Luke 13:2 and Luke 21:29 as examples. It’s the same Greek word, but it’s translated as “all other”. So the claim that Jehovah Witnesses’ organization add words or take words out of the Bible has been false so far according to the evidence Jeff presented. I’m a translator myself and I enjoy reading different kinds of Bible. I have long heard the debate around Bible translations. I think for Jeff to point out the difference in the translation may not be because he is dishonest, but simply because he does not understand how translation works. Take Genesis 2:18 for example. Just take a look at how different Bibles translate that one scripture. They are ALL different but the meaning is the same, are they not? Are we going to say the translations are wrong or simply that the translator chose words that they believe best or are the closest to the original language. There are words that one language may have, but the other language may not have. Just ask any bilinguals. Jeff, Bible translators, and most viewers has not said anything about the name Jehovah in the NWT Bible, why not? Why is it that people don’t give the NWT praise for putting the name Jehovah (Yahweh) where it was originally was at or do most of you think the name was fabricated by Jehovah’s Witnesses? I not only read different Bibles in English but I also read them in Chinese. The name Jehovah does exist in the Chinese Bible. Unlike the English Bibles, the name Jehovah has been replaced by titles such as God and Lord, but you cant always do that with the Chinese Bible because it doesn’t always work that way in the Chinese language. Some Bibles would use the name Yahweh instead of Jehovah, but Yahweh is Hebrew not English, if a translator choose to use the Hebrew name for Jehovah then why not all the other names like Yehoshua for Jesus? So I appreciate the NWT’s consistency in this area. By the way, I appreciate how both parties use the Bible in this discussion and they were both very polite.
Jeff’s skills with the Bible is the reason for my passion in apologetics and now polemics. I love how he knows Gods Word and how to share with gentleness and respect. God bless his ministry. And pray for those JWs.
Randomly stumbled across this video as I’m sitting in a hotel room in Salt Lake City on vacation. I was born and raised a Jehovah’s Witness in Chicago . I ran into JWs in downtown during my stay here . My mind is blown at how timely me stumbling across this video is .
Praise God!! I pray you know God loves you and wants to adopt you into his family. Just repent, accept Jesus is Lord, raised from the Dead, and died on the cross.❤❤❤
Danielavila Just the demons at work! Jesus said that Satan is the god of this world and the Power of the air! The great deceiver……watch out! Be care of what you listen to! You were on your way to everlasting life in the Kingdom, that Our King, Jesus will rule over from the heavens over the earth. Read Daniel 2:44! Don’t be deceived by these unrighteous ones!
@@bonniemartell9750 Look in the history books. People were put to death on a torture stake not a cross. the King James Version reads at Acts 5:30: “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree [xyʹlon].” Other versions, though rendering staurosʹ as “cross,” also translate xyʹlon as “tree.” At Acts 13:29, The Jerusalem Bible says of Jesus: “When they had carried out everything that scripture foretells about him they took him down from the tree [xyʹlon] and buried him.” In view of the basic meaning of the Greek words staurosʹ and xyʹlon, the Critical Lexicon and Concordance, quoted above, observes: “Both words disagree with the modern idea of a cross, with which we have become familiarised by pictures.” In other words, what the Gospel writers described using the word staurosʹ was nothing like what people today call a cross. Appropriately, therefore, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures uses the expression “torture stake” at Matthew 27:40-42 and in other places where the word staurosʹ appears. Similarly, the Complete Jewish Bible uses the expression “execution stake.”
I pray that all my Reformed brethren engage in gracious yet truthful conversations to evangelize those in error, just like our brother Jeff Durbin. May the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit be eternally praised!
Jeff sadly could not HEAR Paul in Colossians where he lays a right foundation. Jeff parrots and so do the women but are not of the truth of 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 the COMMON faith Paul shared with Titus and which Jude says was delivered ONCE to the saints. Read our comment to avoid the spirit of ERROR - 1John 4v 6= ❤ Paul and Lynda
Jeff Durbin is truly a man of God. He is very respectable and loving person as a witness of his saving relationship with Christ thru faith and by His grace alone.
Jeff I just wanna say that I am grateful for the work u are doing out there ! You are a great representative of Christian’s with the way you conduct yourself ! You know the Bible inside and out and you also come across very respectful ! Thank you for all the work you do
Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians Paul shared a COMMON FAITH with Titus which Jude says that we MUST EARNESTLY contend for the faith delivered ONCE to the saints. Paul's faith is still preserved in 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 in the Authorised King James Bible a word by word translation from the original scriptures. We are in the Father by Jesus Christ our Lord from heaven now made a life-giving spirit. One spirit even as you are called in one hope of your calling. In 2 Cor Paul was concerned about a different Jesus and spirit Read our extensive comment. Much ❤ Paul and Lynda
Amazing brother may God give you always the right words in order more people to come to the truth and the only truth is Jesus greetings from Belgium from a small but blessed church
Sir I think you met the best witnesses ever. Loved how they were so free to air their views. Most of them don’t . I love their energy, it’s a proof they both seek Truth.
Except that convenient "shift change" lol. And the prodding from one of the women to attend one of their services to "change your perspective". And the "we agree to disagree". They seemed pretty hardened in their views.
@@jimross1765 Exactly. Because the truth cannot be compromised. He had scripture to back him up. They had tradition and a book written by a man who claimed to be a prophet and nothing he said came true. Don't let tradition get in the way of salvation.
@@natalyd9674 On the contrary it is christians who have a traditional belief in the Trinity passed down to them by catholic dogma and adopted by its many offshoots of christian belief. JW reject this tradition as I do and I also have scriptures to back this deception of 3 gods in one. It is one of many pointless and fruitless discussions. It was Roman doctrine that started a belief in a Trinity and became widely accepted. Any who questioned it were put to death by burning at the stake alive. Both John Calvin and John Know did just that. Consider this if you believe that Jesus is God? John says: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John 1:18). But men have seen Jesus. Therefore, the expression “God” refers exclusively to God the Father. Jesus never refers to himself as God; he reserves that terminology solely for the Father. When someone called him “Good Teacher,” Jesus replied: “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” (Matthew 19: 17). I will declare your name to my brothers.” (Psalm 22: 22). Jesus is: “the firstborn among many brothers.” (Romans 8:29). Believers are the brothers of Jesus. But we are not the brothers of God. God is our Father. The Holy Spirit is neither our brother or our Father. The Holy Spirit is the word of the Father that dwelt in the flesh body of Jesus. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Jesus is the second created Adam who never sinned and obeyed his Father. He is the first born son of a new creation into the Kingdom of God.
Correct! “Stay Alive until ‘75” was a real prophesy. What a great way to finish a very polite discourse. Our job is not to change their minds on the spot, but to leave them with a seed planted that may take root later on. Thank you for sharing this!
I’ve noticed that every time you’re ministering and preaching, and having a scriptural dialogue with these wonderful souls, there is always someone that comes up to you and confirms what you’re saying. It reminds me of the verse where it says everything is established by two or three witnesses. God sent that gentleman to confirm to those ladies that you are speaking the truth of God. God bless you Pastor Jeff.
Crear exposition by the Christian pastor ,we can see the Jew’s don’t do good hermenéuticas or exegesis,it teaches us to learn the Bible and not follow other people without examine their teachings with scripture.
@@johnnyqpublic1000 The scriptures are not wrong, but his "explanation" of what he claims they mean are. The Bible clearly states Jehovah is the only true God and there is no other besides him. (Deuteronomy 4:35) [Use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God. Use the American Standard Version, Divine Name King James Version, Young's Literal Translation or others that still have God's name] The Bible clearly tells us that Jehovah is God's name and that will be his name forever. (Exodus 3:15) [Again, use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God.] The Bible clearly states that Jehovah will give his glory to no one else. (Isaiah 42:8) Jesus disciples identify him as the Son of God. (Matthew 16:16) At John 10:36 after the Jews accuse Jesus of making himself a god, Jesus corrected them and called out their false accusation of blasphemy by reiterating that he had said, "I am God's Son". If Jesus were God, he would have admitted it there instead of correcting them. Revelation 3:14 tells us that Jesus was the beginning of creation by God, yet he tries to claim that John 1:1 which says Jesus was with God in the beginning means he was already there before the beginning. He is wrong and that is not what the Bible says. You must read the entire bible, not just a couple of verses to get the full meaning.
@@jaimedelcastillo1302 In your biased opinion, that is. However, what Jeff does is make partial claims. (He uses bad exegesis and hermeneutics, twisting what is said to his pre-existing beliefs.) For instance, he claims that 'firstborn' in the Bible, which comes from the Greek prototokos, means "preeminent" or "the highest position", using examples of where the inheritance of the firstborn went to someone who wasn't actually the firstborn. This definition, however, was a later added definition of the word, by trinitarian scholars. The Greek root word "Proto" literally means first or only, as in prototype. And the Greek root word "Tokos" literally means to give birth to or bring forth. When you examine the Bible in it's entirety, it becomes clear that Jesus is not God, but the first being God created. The other word Jesus is called is only-begotten, which comes from the Greek word monogenes. Jeff claims this means unique or one of a kind. However, the Greek root word "mono" is the part of the word that means unique or one of a kind, so that is only a partial definition. Mono means "one or only", as in monogamous, monopoly, monocular, mononucleosis, etc. The Greek root word "genes" means to beget or to father, as in the King begot a male heir to his throne. There are other words from this root word such as genetics, as in, "Blue eyes run in his genes." Monogenes literally means Jesus was the only being directly created by God. How could that be? Proverbs 8:22-30 shows that after being created, Jesus worked alongside God as a master worker. Doing what? Helping create everything else. That is why Colossians 1:15 says that by means of him, everything (other than himself as the only begotten) comes through Jesus. Jesus was created. - Revelation 3:14 Jehovah is the only true God. - Deuteronomy 4:35; Isaiah 42:8; Exodus 3:14
Wow, praise God! I have been "studying" with two JWs for months now, and have been putting off the deity of Christ for as long as I could. We got into it a bit last week (I shared Heb 1 vs Psalm 102... the one looked like she'd seen a ghost) and I expect to be discussing it again with them tomorrow. This video is so timely and such a beautiful example of loving truthfulness. If anyone has a moment, please pray the Lord will soften their hearts and that my kids will behave themselves so we can have a productive time.
I was one of Jehovah's witnesses all my life before I came to Christ. I actually met God through H M Sealey's Kingdom Rising novels - I saw myself in the characters caught in the cult and then I saw the beauty of "The King" and how different He was to the Jesus we learned about. Don't give up, the relief of stepping off the treadmill of good works and earning my own salvation and it's Jesus' waiting arms was glorious.
I am a JW and Ps 102 and Heb 1 it's so skin deep in reasoning that when JW's go away and study it they realize it's just a poor argument that an overzealous Trinitarian _thinks_ is some sort of scriptural revelation. It's not. JW's believe Jesus was used in creation and hence why you only see creation ascribe as being made _through_ him and not by him personally. Therefore, its agency is at play and we'd expect to see expressions used of God also used of Jesus as God is the one working through Jesus as the true causation and therefore the source of creation. We see similar expressions used of others and God in the same mediatorial sense as we see of Christ. Jesus isn't creator, the Father is, Heb 1:2, _"Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, _*_and through whom he made the systems of things."_*
A great passage I recently came across is Matthew 28:9-10. It passively states his divinity in that JWs would agree worshiping any one else but God is idolatry. It says the disciples upon encountering Jesus post resurrection, they fell to his feet and worshiped him. Well, in verse 10, he does not rebuke them, rather just tells them to fear not. The heretics authoring the NWT must've had a hell of time getting around this one. It's basically checkmate.
Kai, if Jesus were God, what would the Bible have to say about him to prove it? It says it explicitly and implicitly in so many ways, it doesn't seem like there would be any way to say it that would get through to someone who refuses to believe it. I pray for both you and these ladies that the Holy Spirit would reveal the truth to you.
I love how lovingly you explain the truth to the deceived ❤ and I pray the Holy Spirit gives me the opportunity and the words to do the same when I visit my Aunt next week! I needed to see this! Good bless your ministry! 💜✝️💜
@@monew632 thank you! It looks like my mother and I will see her on Friday April 21, along with my uncle, and cousin. They all need to meet the Jesus of scripture. My mother and I would be honored if God chooses to use us for that. Please keep us in your prayers! - Jamie
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created. The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century. Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God. Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him. 1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God. Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God. Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God. Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God. 1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God. John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God. John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped. John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God. There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God. There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.” There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God. The trinity is a false doctrine.
Divine appointments. Thank you Lord for sending Jeff to these two sincere women. I pray You save their souls through a true knowledge of the Son Jesus Christ.
How so? I note Jeff dismissed his own doctrine when he stated that the only way TO THE FATHER was through Jesus. He notes himself that the Ultimate point is the FATHER!
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
You can try to contradict JW beliefs but it only works in the minds of those who don't understand truth. People are constantly defending their religion's lying teachings by twisting the Scriptures. You can claim that trinity, hell, immortal soul, and rapture are Scriptural but you can only present more lies to try doing it. There are no accurate teachings in all of Christendom's divided churches.
God bless you Pastor Jeff, thanks for posting these videos. I learn from the examples and the scriptures you quote. Keep up the great work, and may the Lord bless everything you put your hand too.
I just came across your video, I’m so impressed on how kind and respectful you are to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I have always believed that we can all help each other to get closer to GOD. Awesome job 😁
Thank you for your kind ministry to bring the gospel to JWs! I was one for 34 years and got out and came to Christ 2 years ago. I want them so badly to know the love and freedom found only in God's grace. ❤
Lord, please awaken the hearts of these precious women….. They don’t know how desperately wicked they are, and how much they really need your grace and truth….. Lord Jesus, help. Grant them the true gospel. Amen.
@@gordianknot9595”All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23 and “There is no one righteous, not even one.” Romans 3:10 and “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately, wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9….. If you don’t agree with those passages, then my friend, you have an issue with the Bible, and that is VERY dangerous grounds…
@@gordianknot9595 "why is the Bible trustworthy?" God's word is supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) along with the most consistent/cohesive explanation for objective reality regarding all it's facets (origin, meaning, morality, destiny, logic, order, reason, sense, beauty, etc.) "And how do you know?" The Bible is the objective foundation for truth as explained above, how do you know your worldview is objectively true? What is your objective foundation for truth? May the infallible God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!
Do you think God is going to be soft on JWs. He will say, you had a choice to know me but your stubbornness earned you a place away from me! JWs need to be told what they are. JWs support a group of satanic lying criminals and being all nice sure whatever they need called out on their leaderships lies deceptions and abuses! They are deceived and evil people and need to be stoped by force and locked up for supporting real estate crimes, mind control and child abuse!
@@raygsbrelcik5578Meet our Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9v6. Christianity gets God wrong since 284AD, after a Byzantine monk altered the gospel for the sake of political power and business profit.
I really am advancing my biblical knowledge and faith getting into apologetics. This was so enjoyable to watch as a Christian that has JW neighbor and when we moved here we agreed to studies with them and enter into that world lightly for a short time. Instead of being manipulated into that. I was determined to grow my faith as a Christian and now have preached to them and 1 other JW who came to our door, needless to say they talk to us about their beliefs anymore, but we still have a very friendly, neighborly relationship and just be an example for them by the way we live.
I commend both parties..but it is really convenient to have your argument fresh, recently fresh in the mind, studied, then at the target you go. Like being caught off guard. I would love to see these two parties given this topic, the Trinity, meeting up at a coffee shop or sitting on some steps, with BOTH parties prepared to research and discuss this topic at the SAME time. That’s when two parties can equally learn from one another. In either instance, I commend both parties for searching out a relationship with our creator… It’s awesome to hear these researchers having a cordial discussion. Even if you agree to disagree..this right here is beautiful to see.
@@HLZBORO738 They are Wrong about this trinity thing. And Jesus is NOT GOD, my friends-----That Office has belonged to GOD the FATHER for ALL ETERNITY! Amen.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 we christians don't ignore or belittle God the father. We have an understanding from the bible that when you call the name of Jesus Christ, you are calling both father, son and spirit at the same time. After Jesus, God have no other name. Read philippians 2:9-11 , Acts 4:12-14,. The name of Jesus have been given to our dispensation. In the face of trial and temptation the only name you call is the name of Jesus. Once the name of Jesus is called both the father, son and spirit gose to war.
@@andrewajuzie9619 Between GOD the FATHER, and Jesus Christ....which ONE is the, "One TRUE GOD," according to Scripture? Am I to understand that, according to YOU, GOD the FATHER answers to Christ? Funny----As I Study the Bible..., it's the diametric OPPOSIT, my Friend!
@@raygsbrelcik5578 that’s the problem my brother. you study but you do not see; you do not hear. studying the bible SOLELY for history and debating and not for the purpose of deepening your relationship with the Lord is fruitless. I pray God softens your heart and opens your ears and eyes. i love you
@@frosty1947 Mr.Frosty----You do not Know me, therefore, you Assume, just because I have a passion for exposing this Post Apostolic, Dark Age Doctrine, that I lack a Personal relationship with my GOD, and HIS, "Only Begotten Son." Not SO, my friend....Quite the OPPOSITE! If you were to bother to Read/Study all my posts, you would See for yourself----We offer a Very STRONG Apologetic, my good brother. And I am Fully willing to engage you in a Deep, and Lively conversa- tion. Are you willing, my friend? With utmost respect.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Sound phony. Sorry! Can I ask how one became a JW in the first place? Filled a form, gave a bribe or donation. or self appointed oneself? Here are Jesus' words to help. (Matthew 20:28) Just as the Son of man came, NOT TO BE MINISTERED TO, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” Did Jesus even want any glory for himself?. Let alone worship.
@Tonga Khan not to by sorry, my English is not so good, i try to write good but you see how it is😆 My all family was JW and so I, I was 35 years in this Organisation, for 3 years I left JW because so many bad things happen in this Organisation, they are good people but they bible is wrong, I'm sorry dear friend for my English I hope you understand my what I try to write, God bless you❤️
@@Punio916 :It seems that one WASN'T actually a JW. Just accompanied the family to meetings reluctantly. So how would one know what is believed by JWs? IF JWs are NOT Jesus' TRUE DISCIPLES, who is?
@Tonga Khan hey, the JW not belive that Jesus is God! But in the bible is many verses that Jesus are God, the JW Bible are very different, they not belive that Jesus died on the cross, they only belive in Government Body, who hide pedophilia and other bad things, they strategy ist a false love, they manipulate people, I know what I saying I'll be there for very very long time, it's very sad because they are good people but unfortunately very manipulated by government Body and they learn methods. Romans 15;20 It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation
Pastor Jeff, you were born for this. You just have a boldness about you that's heaven sent. I notice that same spirit in other apologists it's truly a gift. I love the videos. And you're such a great listener and so calm they can't help but respond to your questions 😂😂😂😂
Jeff's a nice guy BUT he does not HEAR Paul when he read Colossians. Paul's faith delivered ONCE to the saints is preserved for us in 1 Corinthians 8 v 4 to 6. Avoid the spirit of error which takes away the drink of the thirsty _ Isaiah 55 v5 and Zech 2 v 10 and 11. NATIONS!! ❤ Paul and Lynda from Earnestly Contending for the Faith Ministry.
Simple question to ask those that do not believe Jesus is God - Why was Jesus crucified? Why did the Pharisees and High Priests condemn Jesus to death? For claiming to be God!
@@bobbyfischersays1262 Correct - There is not a verse that Jesus says, "I am God". Jeff did a great job pointing out the scriptures that show where Jesus and the Father are One. When you read your complete Bible to the point you understand the intent God desired in the writing you will understand. This will require understanding Greek and Hebrew words since English is unable to fully convey the intent. Example - What does it mean to be the Son of God? Hint - it is not the same as the son of Bobby Fisher.
@@tbl8560 so your argument is: the original Biblical languages cover up the true esoteric meaning of the Bible and deep word study will reveal that "Son of God" = YHWH, which is a contradiction in terms. Cool. Thanks for the virtue signal though: guess I just don't know the Bible as well as you do!
@@bobbyfischersays1262 not an argument, just providing insight. Most read an English translation and interpret the writing based on the English language and they're perspective of it. When you read the word love in the New Testament, what meaning do you apply? How do you know what the intent of the passage is if you don't know which of the 7 Greek words was originally used that are translated to love in the English?
Both JW’s and Reformed Trinitarians are wrong. All ante-nicene Christians correctly believed the Father is the One God of the Bible just as Scripture states (1 Corinthians 8:6, John 17:3) but Jesus is “Theos” (God) in the sense of being the true Son of God with His Father’s divine nature. Read the Nicene Creed in Greek, it says there is One God, the Father, and One Lord, Jesus Christ, and Christ is “Theos” from “ton Theon” (The God), showing they are not God in the same sense.
Amazing work Jeff! You were the first person that touched me just by watching your videos and defending gods word and truth, one thing I suggest if you can pray for these ladies and everyone you encounter to help them come to know Jesus. God bless jeff
Dr. White and Jeff have been an amazing resource on defending the deity of Christ talking to JW’s and has caused me to be filled with excitement every time i run into them so i can confidently proclaim the truth of Christ to them
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When you speak about what Paul said, do you also refer to the six books falsely, lyingly, attributed to Paul? How about 2nd Peter and the Epistle of Jude, which all serious academics also say are forgeries? Does your god really spread his word thru forgeries? It's like starting an economy using a mix of genuine and counterfeit currency. Makes zero sense.
@@eew8060 I pray that some of the folks that this pastor speak to reach a saving knowledge of who Christ Jesus really is. One life saved from hellfire is absolutely worth all the hard work. God bless.
@@sammia4227 Yes it is 🕊✝️❤️😊
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
Do these women know you are filming them and that you are putting them on the internet?
Perhaps the most amazing and cordial conversation I have ever seen concerning the Deity of Christ. Great job! -Mark Spence
Indeed, I know people that are believers but still say there is no point in discussing with JW people becuause the discussion will lead nowhere, very disappointed by this way of thinking.... Well, I think with a little bit of research, love and full guidance from the Holy Spirit, it can be done so nicely. Jeff surely proves how discussions with them can be so fruitful and eye opening even for those who grew up with these teachings.
than clearly you do not follow Jeff - still doesn't matter - these women do not want the truth and are incapable of following logic, they do not want God
@@AskRemy So then, leave them in their deceitful state becuase they are a lost case anyway? I think we are to sow the seed as we do with other people in general. Indeed, if you want to speak with them, you need patience, knowledge about their teachings, great knowledge of the Bible and a humble heart and the motivation NEEDS to be love. Let's remember we have the Truth, we are to deliver it then it is God's job to convict their hearts. There are quite some examples of JW members who came to faith after the true Gospel was transmitted to them.
@@AskRemy of course they want God! They're just deceived. May God have mercy and guide them. Jeff is deceived too. The One God is Jesus Christ's God. And Jesus is the Son of God. May God have mercy and guide all of us. It isn't that believers don't want God. My heart weeps. For the oppression and confusion both false Watchtower and false trinity dogma have caused.
@@AskRemy I get what you say, they are so rooted in their false teaching that many times it seems pointles talking to them but often we can see this level of hardening in unbelievers, but we do our duty of shining the light. That's our job. People may not show on the outside but the truth may do its work slowly from the inside. God can make them see also and He can do by His people who are willing to be used. We so often wait for immediate results but often God works not as we might expect.
I need to watch more of your channel, 2 Mormons just came to my doorstep to preach to me, and I didn't try and convert them and stop them from preaching false Gospel because I didn't feel I was equipped enough to do so. I need to read and prioritize the Bible, pray for me and these Mormon missionaries.
I watched an Apologia Studios video for the first time almost 5 years ago. It was Jeff speaking to Mormons. I was very interested because my mil is Mormon and my husband exmormon.
What hit me was I did not know the Bible well enough and didn’t feel I could share the gospel. It was extremely convicting and pushed me to begin spending time in Gods word daily. I have watched many videos from Apologia Studios and some other Pastors that help me understand the culture of that time.
I hope this video has the same effect on you. Apologia Studios has tons of videos on witnessing to Mormons and other no Christian groups.
Praise God that you clicked on this video!
Watch the Bible vs Joseph smith this will help shed some light on how to reach the mormon
dude i feel you, you feel guilty when you dont answer or have nothing to say
I would say rather we should stay in the Word more to have them ready on our lips. I am struggling a little with that myself and watching to Mitch RUclips
ISSAIAH 42:8
New Living Translation
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,)
nor share my praise with carved idols.
New International Version
Matthew 16:27
(For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY )
with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES
◄ John 17:5 ►
New International Version
And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.)
ISSAIAH 43:10
New International Version
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.)
BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME.
THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
King James Bible acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.)
BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE)
< Issiah 43:11 >
New International Version
I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.)
◄ Matthew 1:21 ►
New International Version
She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
◄ John 16:15 ►
New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST.
EVERYTHING.
◄ Acts 20:28 ►
NEW KING JAMES
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.)
HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
◄ Hebrews 10:8 ►
New International Version
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.)
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS
EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
◄ John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
◄ Hebrews 10:5 ►
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
(BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; )
GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS.
THE WORD WHO IS GOD.
JOHN 1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH.
◄ John 1:14 ►
New International Version
(THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
philippians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE.
New Living Translation
JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.
◄ John 10:18 ►
New International Version
NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME,
-(HIS LIFE)-
(BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.)
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
HOSEA 6:6
FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE
and not sacrifice,
THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings.
WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO
KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS.
King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17
I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22
For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
he will save us
Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Isaiah 66:16
For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
James 4:12
(There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor?
◄ Matthew 10:28 ►
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
◄ Revelation 1:8 ►
New International Version
(“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►
New International Version
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER
SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE.
JOHN 8 17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
◄ John 14:1 ►
New International Version
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
King James Bible
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
◄ Romans 7:6 ►
New International Version
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
I am 62yrs old. I was always confused about Jesus and God. I thank you very much for this information. It truly was heart felt. Your words brought some tears to my eyes. I thank you Sir for your words again. God bless you and your family.
Saw in a movie where a guy in a vision saw the three, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit. He asked which of you are God. They simultaneously said I AM. A friend used the example of cutting an apple. Can we comprehend this? No... but we accept it by faith, and relationally, we experience it. How does God dwell inside every human in a personal way? We can not.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28 is very clear about Jesus being subject to God. There are more of this kinds of verses in the bible than there are of those used to explain the trinity. Jesus prayed and relied on God to have his assignment on earth to be successful
(John 8:40) But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.
Why did the Jews want to kill Jesus? Because he spoke the truth which he had heard from God.
Why are people trying to 'kill' JWs? Same reason.
(Matthew 24:9) “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name.
Like Jesus, JWs just cannot be ignored.
@emmanuel uzu There are just as many that say He was God in human form. BOTH are true.
But let's use the passage you chose, 1 Cor. 15. This passage affirms the trinity. When all prophesy has been fulfilled He, as Jesus Christ will return to where He was before creation.
In Genesis God said 'Let us make man in our image'.
Jesus said 'Before Abraham was I am'.
There are several passages that affirm this. John 1:1-2 agrees with Genesis. John 17:5
Col.1:17
Jesus Christ was God's miraculous revelation of Himself. Once all has been completed He and the Father will return to their original ONE.
Can we really understand this? Can we explain how He did this in human logic and reason? No. All who are born again KNOW He is God in flesh who gave Himself for our sin because no 'son of Adam' could.
@@emmanueluzu-u2t
Jesus Christ is:
1. YHWH and Elohim (Hebrews 1:8-10)(John 20:28)
2. YHWH of Hosts (Isaiah 6:5)(John 12:41)
3. Elohim (Genesis 1:1)(Colossians 1:16)(John 1:1-3)
4. The Great I AM “EGO EIMI” (John 8:58) (Exodus 3:14)
5. ADONAY (Isaiah 6:8)(John 12:41)
6. EL GIBOR “The Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6)
7. The Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8)
8. The Beginning and the End (Revelation 1:8)
9. The First and the Last (Revelation 1:11)
10. The ALMIGHTY GOD (Revelation 1:8)
11. The Creator of EVERYTHING that has ever been created, including Lucifer and the entire angelic realm. (Colossians 1:15-18)
12. Jesus was and is the one and only God in a human body.(Colossians 2:9)
Well, I know I'm just a drop in the many comments here - yet just wanted to say, WOw.. Great video and info and knowledge!!
Love this video! As a former JW this hits home. Thank you Jeff and Apologia for continuing to preach and display love to those who are lost and deceived.
If you don’t mind, anyway you could share what pulled you out? Besides obviously the Lord dragging you out. I guess I’m asking from a human level, what started to open your eyes and what eventually was the final straw? I ask because I have really close friends who are stuck in the watchtower society
@@Johnnyprc Thank you for the question. I did not come to the decision to question and change my faith lightly. I prayed, studied, and did my own research to come to this conclusion. Everyday JWs ask people to research their faith, if anyone believes they have the truth, it should stand up to scrutiny. I encourage you to pray, to look at unbiased sources, research the history of the religion, take a close look at the bible translation you are using, and let God lead you. 1 Cor 15:20-28,
The divinity of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 1:4)
The sovereignty of Jesus rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 14:9)
Our justification rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 4:25)
Our regeneration rests on the resurrection of Jesus (1 Peter 1:3)
Our ultimate resurrection rests on the resurrection of Jesus (Romans 8:11)
v.27,28, "For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all. (NASB)" The submission the Son does not come from "inferiority," Jesus existed in the form of God. (Philippians 2:6) While Christ was on earth, He did not seek His own glory but the Father's. In the same manner the Father also gives glory to the Son by placing "all things in subjection under His feet." The subjection is in administrative order of the Godhead. A son will always be in subjection to his father, even if both are equal in substance. God the Father will always be God the Father, and God the Son will always be God the Son, and for all eternity they will always relate to each other as Father and Son.
@@haroldbailey9011 I do not mind at all Harold. Unfortunately we cannot will our friends and loved ones away from a false religion. My initial desire was to prove that the Watchtower was correct, if it is the "truth" it can be questioned, it can be scrutinized, it can be challenged. I asked God for guidance and wisdom. My first question revolved around the deity of Christ. The same names for Jehovah in the OT are used for Jesus in the NT. Jesus claimed to be God, the religious leaders new this and they tried to stone Him for blasphemy. I encourage you to keep speaking with your friends, plant those small seeds and hopefully it will urge them to do their own research and come to the correct conclusion. It is not in God's nature to lead someone in the wrong direction when they sincerely ask Him.
@@Johnnyprc He was born again. The organizations lies went out the window by the redeeming grace of God.
@@Johnnyprc Do you believe that Jesus was resurrected or recreated?
My mother was a jehovahs witness, at one point her brother who was a Christian was praying for her, she got sick and had a vision of two angels fighting for her, one of the devil and one of the Lord, the Lords angel won, and she immediately left Jehovahs witnesses and was led to follow the true Jesus of the Bible.
Sounds a scam comment if ever there was one.
Please! Not everyone out there is a moron.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Amen!
😂😂😂😂😂 that’s funny
Praise God
I needed this. I'm coming back to my faith in Christ and was challenged by a coworker about Jesus' divinity on Monday. Thank you
ISSAIAH 42:8
New Living Translation
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
( I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANYONE ELSE,)
nor share my praise with carved idols.
New International Version
Matthew 16:27
(For the Son of Man IS GOING TO COME IN HIS FATHER ’s GLORY )
with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
JESUS AND THE FATHER SHARE THE SAME GLORY. TOP 2 VERSES
◄ John 17:5 ►
New International Version
And now, (Father, glorify me in your presence WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.)
ISSAIAH 43:10
New International Version
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, (SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE.)
BEFORE ME no god was formed, nor will there be one AFTER ME.
THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE, FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
King James Bible acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that (THE GODHEAD) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; (IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,) you will indeed die in your sins.”(these are the words of JESUS.)
BOTH JESUS AND THE FATHER SAY (I AM HE)
< Issiah 43:11 >
New International Version
I, even I, am the LORD, and (APART FROM ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR.)
◄ Matthew 1:21 ►
New International Version
She will give birth to a son, (and you are to give him the name Jesus, because (HE WILL SAVE )his people from their sins.”) JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
◄ John 16:15 ►
New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
WOW, EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO CHRIST.
EVERYTHING.
◄ Acts 20:28 ►
NEW KING JAMES
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed (THE CHURCH OF GOD, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.)
HOW DID GOD PURCHASE THE CHURCH WITH HIS OWN BLOOD?
◄ Hebrews 10:8 ►
New International Version
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them"-(THOUGH THEY WERE OFFERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.)
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOUR WORKS
EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFERED ACCORDING TO THE LAW.
◄ John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
◄ John 8:24 ►
New International Version
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
◄ Hebrews 10:5 ►
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
(BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; )
GOD MADE A BODY FOR JESUS.
THE WORD WHO IS GOD.
JOHN 1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
GOD THE WORD TOOK ON FLESH.
◄ John 1:14 ►
New International Version
(THE WORD BECAME FLESH) and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
philippians 2:6-7
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT MEANS HE WAS NOT A SERVANT BEFORE HE TOOK ON FLESH.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, HE TOOK ON THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
HOW CAN SOMEONE TAKE ON A ROLE OF WHAT HE SHOULD ALREADY BE.
New Living Translation
JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS, JUST AS GOD OUR FATHER PLANNED, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.
◄ John 10:18 ►
New International Version
NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME,
-(HIS LIFE)-
(BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.)
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
HOSEA 6:6
FOR I DESIRE STEADFAST LOVE
and not sacrifice,
THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD rather than burnt offerings.
WOW THE ONLY THING GOD REALLY WANTS FROM US IS TO
KNOW HIM, AND LOVE HIM AND LOVE OTHERS.
King James bible ecclesiastes 3:17
I said in mine heart,(GOD SHALL JUDGE) the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.
King James Version ISSAIAH 32:22
For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
he will save us
Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Isaiah 66:16
For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
James 4:12
(There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; ) but who are you who judge your neighbor?
◄ Matthew 10:28 ►
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
◄ Revelation 1:8 ►
New International Version
(“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says THE LORD GOD,) “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
◄ Hebrews 1:8 ►
New International Version
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY HE WAS GOD, BECAUSE THE FATHER
SAID IT, AND WHAT THE FATHER SAYS IS TRUE.
JOHN 8 17-18
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
◄ John 14:1 ►
New International Version
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
King James Bible
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
◄ Romans 7:6 ►
New International Version
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, and not in the old way of the written code.
Of course there is a lot of things we can't explain.
Like all the prophecies ever since the book of Genesis.
But the truth is the truth, so far all the prophecies have come to pass.
The bible says that Jesus became a man.
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;)
In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh).
What was he?
He was God, one member of the triune God. Because God exists in 3 father, son and holyspirit.
So before Jesus took on flesh he was one with the father.
Sharing the glory with the Father , self existing with the father in total harmony, union.
THE bible says Jesus took on the form of a servant .
In order to take on the role of a servant
You could not have been a servant.
Jesus said if you don't believe me believe the works the miracles I done.
New International Version
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
It is clear that Jesus was doing the things
That only God can do.
If doing the things that only God can do
Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind.
What more can you possibly want he lived out a life greater than anything written can explain.
He lived a sinless and perfect life.
No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all.
NOONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE.
HE LIVE THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE.
HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD
CAN DO.
HE FORGIVES SINS.
HE GIVES LIFE.
HE IS THE SAVIOR.
Keep pushing and dive in. Remember Christ meets a women were she is. He will meet you. 🙏
I’m struggling a bit, I’ve given my life to Christ. But I’m struggling cause I don’t understand if we’re supposed to worship Jesus, i have been. But would He correct me if He were here? Cause He always pointed to the father and I guess i just need help a but
@@GospelwithElijah one God. Don’t over complicate things. Worship of Jesus is worship of God
Very cordial but bold in his proclamation and exegesis of the Gospel. Thank you, faithful saint Jeff.
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
This is what I love about Jeff, he’s not a heresy hunter, he speaks truth in love, he practices love in evangelism and teaching
He also doesn't get anyone saved because he's a Calvinist dog.
Yeah I like Jeff. It's a shame he's a calvinist
have you seen how he behaves when the same approach is used on him... it doesn't turn out well...
he dodges, he says he doesn't have time, he says to send him an email that he will not respond to... and the other person exercised even more calm and humility than Jeff offers...
Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 I see we found one of the Muslims....... however, Jesus is God "incarnate" or God in Flesh (see 1 tim 3:16)
God's nature does not change
God's character does not change
God's plan does not change
and yes... God planned from the beginning to manifest himself in flesh at the foundation of time....
but Jesus is not your King is he?
I thoroughly enjoyed this. No rudeness, no anger, just discussing the bible. And by His grace they will know Him better. Which is the essence of it.
no rudness is one thing.....talking garbage is another..
@@marmar7255who's talking Garbage here?
The issue I have is the insertion of people to make it look an organic conversation.Happens quite a lot in his videos to make it look random but there clearly inserted
Psalms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
(luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son
(John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.
@Lsmoove21 , Jesus is Jehova's son, born of a virgin Mary.
One of the Trinity.
Died and woke up from death.
Is God.
So, what's up???
Jeff’s street evangelism is how I was introduced to Jeff’s ministry. Needless to say, it’s been a huge blessing and I’ve learned a lot from not only from his debates, sermons, and podcast, but also from watching him share the gospel with Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, pro choice advocates, and everyone in between. Seeing him use apologetics with real life application is inspiring. He’s one of the very, very few I watch doing this that truly exhibit the fruit of the spirit when he hits the streets sharing the gospel. Firm, consistent, but with a posture of grace. May God continue to bless his entire ministry. I pray the seeds planted grow with these JW.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Sir, Jesus IS God as explicitly taught in scripture. I encourage you to look at Greek and Hebrew objectively and not through the lenses of false doctrines. You spamming, copying and pasting a comment throughout the comment section doesn’t make it true, either. Micheal is a created being, not Christ, who IS God.
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries FACT - The BIble NEVER called Jesus as CREATOR OR MAKER but the Bible called Jesus as MADE, COME INTO BEING, GIVEN LIFE. FACTs that you cannot deny
@@Mr.DC3.1914 👍🏽Keep telling yourself that. #delusion
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries DELUSION? maybe you are having one,. pls notice what I quoted are from the BIBLE which you obviously reject
Was a baptized Jehovahs witness for years. Happy i left, Jesus is my lord and Savior! I accept
What was it that made you convert?
@@Jack-bi8mg prob emotional
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo RUclips.
Because of the truth!!! Jesus has power!!! Acts 4:12
@@viviandasilva8520 amen
It's absolutely stunning how interactions such as this can remain cordial throughout the extent of the conversation. When both parties remain level-headed and sincere. Not being heady or quick to anger. This was an incredible video showing people of two differing views on a subject. The gentleman that came up and interjected 20min in was right on the money. This was a beautiful dialogue.
The only major problem is one is right and one is wrong
That is how it tends to go off the internet. People respect each other face to face
The question is not who can speak cordially. Who has the TRUTH?
@@tongakhan230 Depends on YOUR definition of the TRUTH.
For you the TRUTH means being baptized into AND in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
If im wrong, correct me, it ALWAYS comes back to the organisation.
@@Xbot4Life : Here is some help.
(John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had BELIEVED HIM: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.”
Obviously there is only ONE TRUTH.
Once the Christian Congregation was organized after Jesus' resurrection, TRUTH became apparent.
How many organizations is Jesus the HEAD of?
MORE STREET MINISTRY!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 love seeing these interactions
Yes!
I second this! I’m glad Jeff is hard at work to end abortion, but I really miss his evangelism videos. Very gifted.
He's a con artist.
@@mattr.1887 Mind expanding on that?
Read our comment - both parties sold out to their TRADITIONS. Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians and has an ERROR in spirit. Paul's clear teaching is found preserved for us in 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6. Time to flee tradition. 1 John 4 v 6. Please do due diligence and read our extensive comment. ❤ Paul and Lynda
Love this, was raised JW, left on my own around '99, been a Christian since❤
That is ironical?
JWs are the only True Chrsiatians Jesus is leading in the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14.
Can one let us know what God's Kingdom is?
Tonga is a very confused JW, so you have to exuse him.
Mat 24:14 is a parable, as is made clear from Luke 12:41 when Peter says, “Lord, are you telling this parable for us or for all?”
Who is the faithful and discrete slave (FDS)? Is it the church, the 144,000, a slave class, the GB, etc.? If Mat 24 was prophetic instead of a parable (as is clear from the context) then wouldn't it be clear who the FDS is? If Jesus chose a group to be his FDS, wouldn't they (and others know)? Yes! Yet JW's keep changing who the FDS is.
Today the GB claims to be the FDS using circular reasoning (begging the question fallacy):
1. How do you know God chose the GB? Because the GB said so.
2. How do you know the GB are telling the truth? Because God chose the GB.
So unless you drink the cool-aid, you know that the GB isn't the FDS.
What is God's Kingdom: The kingdom of God is the present dynamic rule of God which exists alongside the eschatological hope of the full manifestation of God’s rule on earth when Jehovah Jesus comes to rule physically on earth (Rev 20:4). Contrary to what JW's teach, Jesus began his rule in 30/33 AD when he ascended to the right hand of the Father where he rules over all reatioon (Eph 1:20-23).
out of the fire and into the frying pan, you've learned nothing
JWs are Christians...you didn't pay attention. To be honest though, I grew up JW, and didn't pay any attention either.
@@derekjohnson8428 JW's are not Christians. To be a Christian, you must believe that Jesus is Jehovah (Rom 10:9-13; Kurios is being used in place of the divine name).
As an ex-Jehovah's witness this was the hardest thing to understand but I'm glad it's making more sense the more I watch these kinds of videos. Thank you for explaining so diligently. I am so glad I moved on from the religious trauma and finally believe in the trinity.
That's something I wrestled with for a while and only in recent history came to appreciate. God knows you and I perfectly and deeply, yet, no matter how hard we try to understand and grasp Him, we hardly can because His being is far beyond our own. Sometimes I wonder what my dog thinks of me / my life. She sees me get dressed for work, leave, come back 8+ hours later, sometimes come home with groceries.. She can try all she wants to understand me and my life, and never can or will, yet I understand her immensely. All she NEEDS to do is trust me.. love me.. and knowing why I work, where our house came from, and all that extra stuff is beyind her ability to comprehend and doesnt matter. But I'm just a tick above her 'glory'. & My 'glory' is likened to a filthy rag compared to God's glory! The Trinity isn't easy to grasp because we have an infinitely powerful and incredible God who's capable of things we can't realistically wrap our heads around. The ground doesn't understand the flower. The flower doesn't understand the bee. The bee doesn't understand the dog. The dog doesn't understand the human. The human doesn't understand God. It's a beautiful dynamic you can't help but appreciate because it's the cost of having an all perfect and all powerful God. ❤
Can you expand on the religious trauma and what you mean by that?
So you believe in hell fire also now 😂😂
I had to deal with a lot of fear opening up my mind to learning what others believe. And it was hard to actually validate that I identify with another interpretation of scripture. @@headsofhiphop
No, I believe in the interpretation of hell / heaven through an Orthodox Christian viewpoint. @@davidantonucci1161
It was a beautiful encounter. Jeff was polite, loving and cut with the truth. It 100% takes a work of God to change the heart and open the eyes.
Polite is telling the women that they are being filmed and that you will put them on the internet.
@@fernandovriese6409 these women are promoting satan. They do not deserve anything except a trip to hell
@@fernandovriese6409 you're being filmed my numerous cameras every time you leace your house.
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84Loooool. Exactly.
@nicholastv5543 Greeting5 brother. How are you.
Pastor Jeff, what a gracious dialogue with those lost Jehovah Witnesses. Blessings to you and your family
Jeff is not a pastor.
He is a representative of the fairly recent heretical Protestant 30:17 religion. The term pastor is reserved for those who have apostolic succession as sacred scripture teaches us. Christ said he would protect his one holy apostolic church with the spirit of truth - and it’s not Jeff’s Newfangled processing version of so-called Christianity. I wouldn’t even consider Jeff a Christian, he’s a protestant. He has rejected those who Christ sent. His Bible is missing seven books! For goodness sake. Anyone who actually knows church history knows that protestants are new on the scene - they are the wide road that Christ warned about straight to hell.
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 I'm sorry you're deceived. Come back to the truth of Jesus Christ
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 I'm so sorry you're deceived. Come back to the truth of God's word made flesh.
Dean, how do you know he's deceived? What if you're the one who's deceived, but your pride prevents you from seeing it?
Lemme guess - not possible huh?
@@mattr.1887 I have been studying my Bible every single day for the past 3 years, and four to five days a week for the two years before that and I can tell you without thinking twice about it, He is 100% deceived. I have almost crucified my pride all the way down to little or nothing. I don't think pride has anything to do with it. Blessings to you
Perfecting timing! I work with a Jehovah witness and I share the gospel to him all of the time. Besides sharing the true gospel and the true Christ which is first and foremost the number one thing. Being an example of a Godly Christian is also a powerful testimony. He couldn’t comprehend a time that I forgave someone at work. He couldn’t for the life of him wrap his head around the fact that I could have mercy one someone so quick and so easily. It’s because he has never been eternally forgiven. Pray for my friend Matt please.
Praying for Matt. Thank you for being a faithful witness of our Risen King Jesus Christ.
@@janetcavazos3133 oh boy...😢 Yours is the typical, defensive, unloving response from a JW who completely misses the point. It's sad and illustrates the OPs point. Be blessed
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@janetcavazos3133 He already said who his coworker is that is a Jehovah's Witness, Matt. Did you not read his comment before replying?
I love it that this was not a screaming match of faiths but a conversation.
I really appreciate, how gentle he was with them. Glory to God alone.
What's God's name?
BIBLE TRUTH
Do you wish to learn the truth? Are you hungering and thirsty for it? Like a great boat, the stern of the world is fastly sinking. But the bow is the only way you can get out of it. Many I tell you are at the stern and crying out, this is where you need to be, this is the way. Matthew 7:13 But God is forewarning you all, there'll be many false teachers in the time of the end. 2 Peter 2:1 But the true worshipers will be recognized by this. John 4:23 Isaiah 43:10 They will go about preaching the Good News of Gods heavenly Kingdom. John 4:23 Matthew 24:14 It is written about them, that you may recognize them. They will go publicly preaching and how to house. Acts. 5:42 20:20 It is written about them, that God's name will be attached to them. Acts.15: 14-17 Psalms 83:18 Jehovah God takes no delight in the death of anyone wicked but that he should turn back and keep alive. 2 Peter 3:9 For anyone who listens to these things will keep living. Have faith in the true God, The sovereign Lord, JEHOVAH. John 17:3 Isaiah 65:13 Take a look, please at this video, tap on the link below.
You wish to learn the truth? Are you hungry and thirsty for it?
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I love the guy sitting near them just listening and soaking it in! God bless you Pastor Jeff.
The holy spirit placed him there. He must of needed to hear that conversation at that time 🙏🏼
the only god is jehovah
@@vaxrtz One God three persons.
You contradict the apostle Paul's words with your 3 persons in one God claim. The apostle Paul said: " To us there is one God , the Father...." ( 1 Corinthians 8: 6 )
This one God the Father is Jesus' *only * true God, whom he prayed to and taught that the true worshippers would be worshipping. ( John 17: 3; 4: 22-24.)
As regards, Jesus, the apostle John concludes his chapter in connection to Jesus' identity:
" But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name. ( John 20: 31.)
@@celticmarmite6048 Why don't you guys read the *_REST_* of scripture instead of parroting the same scriptures over and over again? Do you think such a superficial and shallow reading of scripture is enough to disprove the trinity - a doctrine that has survived down through the centuries? Let me show you how verses such as 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 John 17:3 do not pose any problems for trinitarians.
The problem with how John 17:3 is being used is that it doesn't prove anything at all unless you first load it with a unitarian presupposition. You have to first start off with the assumption that only one *_person_* can be the "only true God". Otherwise the argument fails completely.
From a trinitarian perspective there *_IS_* only one true God. Therefore, Jesus calling the Father the "only true God" no more disqualifies himself as being that same one true God any more than Jesus addressing someone else as "man", means that he himself is not a man.
Jesus saying that the Father is the only true God was not only a truth statement that in no in way contradicts the doctrine of the trinity, it was all Jesus could possibly utter at that time. Jesus could not POSSIBLY tell anyone at that time that he was God incarnate.
For those people who are perishing the gospel is "veiled", which means that Jesus TRUE identity was deliberately hidden until AFTER his resurrection. Why otherwise do you think Jesus repeatedly went out of his way to hide his identity and hinted that something way too controversial for him to say would only be revealed after he returned to the Father? What do you think he was referring to?
Similarly, 1 Corinthians 8:6 does disprove the trinity:
"Yet for us there is but *one God,* the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but *one Lord,* Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
I don't know why unitarians even bother refering to this verse, because using the SAME ARGUMENT we would have to conclude that the Father is not "Lord", which we _know_ from verses such as Matthew 11:25 simply isn't true.
Despite this fact Paul says that there is only ONE Lord.
If rather than creating a contradiction in scripture you look at the context of what Paul is saying you will see something completely different than what unitarians want this verse to say. Instead of trying to pit the Father against the Son the preceding verse shows us that Paul is actually pitting the "ONE God and ONE Lord" against "MANY gods and MANY lords":
"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”) (1 Corinthians 8:5)
This passage has to do with idols, not with with whether or not Jesus is God, and the fact that he places Jesus with the Father rather than among the "so-called gods" proves that Jesus is NOT "a god" as the Watchtower would have us believe.
Furthermore, the word Lord, when applied to Jesus, actually _MEANS_ God! Paul consistently used "God" and "Lord" because calling both of them "God" would be confusing and lead to polytheism which is a false teaching.
If you don't think Lord means God then why do you think there are multiple verses in the NT concering Jesus where "kyrios" cross-references to YHWH in the OT?
This is one example:
"a voice of one calling in the wilderness,
*‘Prepare the way for the Lord,*
make straight paths for him.’" (Matthew 3:3)
Compare it to Isaiah 40:3 and see who it refers to.
Here is another:
“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13)
See Joel 2:32.
We also have entire passages in Hebrews 1 that in the OT refer to YHWH being applied to Jesus, where the author claims explicitly that they were written "about the Son".
This is because Jesus IS the YHWH of the old testament! If you want more evidence of this fact then ask me and I will show you something that stands in TOTAL contradiction of the Watchtowers "Big God/little god" theory.
The first Apologia Studio video that I watched (5 years ago) was Pastor Jeff witnessing to Mormons. I’m already a Christian, BUT the video convicted me that I did not know the Bible well enough.
I’ve been sincerely working on that! Daily reading Gods word.
Thank-you Jeff and Apologia Studios!!
Praise the Lord for that!
A true Christian has the right foundation and listens to Paul. Jeff read from Colossians but did not HEAR. True Christians are of 1 Cor 8 v 4 to 6 and I Cor 11 v 3 and will NOT receive a different Jesus and spirit - see 2 Cor. Read our comment to avoid error in spirit - 1 John 4 v 6 ❤ Paul and Lynda from Earnestly Contending for the faith Ministry
Jesus has a god. Ephesians 1:17, 2 Corinthians 1:3 and 1 Peter 1:3. Jeff is a false teacher!!!!
Jeff is wrong. Jesus has a god. Ephesians 1:17, 2 Corinthians 1:3 and 1 Peter 1:3. The trinity is false teaching. What is the name of the Holy Spirit? Three persons in one God. Father’s name is Jehovah, Son’s name is Jesus. I thought they were coequal?
That was one of the best none belligerent conversations I have ever seen beautiful....
The JWs are non-belligerent up to a point. Once the congregation learns who you are and detects that you are a challenge to the "flock", things get dicey. I studied with some local JW leadership for about six weeks. Eventually they got up and stormed out calling me a "Wolf-like one". The congregation was instructed to have nothing to do with me.
This was beautiful to behold. God bless you all and may the Holy Spirit lead these two women to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ! Praise His name!
They already have it. The so called pastor is pushing a pagan doctrine. Research the origins of the trinity and you will see it is as pagan as christmas.
LOL.. Like they need to be lead!
Amen
The holy spirit belongs to Jesus' own God. The spirit *of* Jehovah had to settle upon Jesus.
Isaiah 61:1 " The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me,
Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek."
The spirit is not a seperate person.....the Jews never taught that..the Jewish/ Christian.
..the apostle Paul taught me that there is one God, and names the actual person, who consitutes the wholeone namely the Father alone=God. Which person did Paul teach was God at 1 Corinthians 8: 6? The Holy Spirit, the Son, or the Father?
" To us there is One God, the Father...." Paul's words.
In contrast to this man tickling your ears.
Psalm 83: 18 also states that Jehovah alone ( singular ) is the Most High over all the earth.
The divine name is minted on ancient coins.
Father glorify YOUR name...Jesus words. ( John 12 : 28 )
Jehovah will glorify it again.!
@@celticmarmite6048
You are just another puppet of the demons...
You are using 1 Cor. 8:6 to disprove the deity of CHRIST, but you are ignoring the end of this verse "and one LORD Jesus Christ..."
Deuteronomy 4 and 6 and many other chapters are clear GOD is ONE LORD and there is NO other Savior.
What a lovely demonstration of a caring Christian. I learn so much everytime I listen to you!!!
Thank you Jeff, i just met a lovely JW and this conversation equipped me to have a meaningful and powerful conversation with them 🙏
When Peter asked Jesus: He asked when he will show them the Father, Jesus answered and said have I not been with you for long that you do not know me?
So you're saying Jesus is now the Person of the Father. Hence the Trinity now consists of 2 persons of the Father rather than 1?
Trinity or Twonity is a teaching that is not found the Bible. If Jesus was the image of God so is man was created with the image and likeness of God. But that doesn’t mean we are God. There also a teaching in the Bible we’re Jesus says “the Father is greater than me. “. Jesus was also ask how he was able to perform miracles . And Jesus replied “ I do this thing not of myself but the Father who works through me. He shares God glory doesn’t mean he is God. So are we(the Church )glorified through Christ but doesn’t we are Gods. Why believe the trinity doctrine that toriginated from the false church .
@@jonathanagbayani4210 .... go on and tell it.
@@jonathanagbayani4210because in his Earthly life, His Father was greater. Why? God was not in flesh, he did not feel pain or flail emotions. Jesus HUMBLED Himself to God, making Him “weaker.” Lest you forget John 10?
Wasn’t it Phillip and not Peter who asked?
That was amazing/not just what you said, but the way you said it....may the "Lord of Glory" keep blessing your ministry ⭐
I thought you thought Jesus was lord, so why don’t you just say thank Jesus said I think the Lord? You guys are extremely confusing with your belief because how can you believe that God is three and three and then say that Jesus did this and then, in another breath, say that the Lord did this.. protestant Christians literally make no sense, despite them always trying to judge JW’s for their beliefs. 🤡😂
AS LDS (Christian) it's always a pleasure to speak the Glories of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jehovah, is the great Equalizer OF the masses. He doesn't desire there to be any disputations
among us. Love and Bless each other always. I minister WITH ANY one who need my help. It could be
a prayer, a meal, yard work, fix a gate. I don't care ~ We just love serving in a pure way. I pray everyday
to bless the life of someone. Miraculously our paths cross, and we are all EDIFIED together. We also
serve those who are recovering addicts, even gay couples. We did 12-Step meetings in County Jails
for 3 years. ABSOLUTELY LOVED these incredible Citizens. Their FAITH IS PURE. Be Brave and BE NICE.
Stop ragging on the LDS Church. It's just not "in the Christian way". Rejoice in the commonalities.
There is no need in what you are doing. None. Major on the Majors, Not the minors. Just SERVE,
more doing, less yacking, Please.
@@danstephensen9032
He will continue to do the work he is doing because that is what the Lord has commanded us to do.
The key word in “Christian” is “Christ”!!
He is the center of things, and we follow Him, and what He and His Apostles taught us. Your opinions on religion and tolerance are less than “minor”.
@@alexandernathanielruvalcab2411 And WHO/WHAT, is, GOD the FATHER;
Chopped Liver?
@@donkeytooth BIBLE is the only book which:
heals, guides, judge, warns, helps.
Bible guides souls out from Babylon.
Bible helps to let go from Babylonian entertainments.
Bible helps us see, what has value.
Bible fills souls with knowledge, with peace.
Bible clears out future, for both, for the saved and for the lost.
Bible gives us stories from which to learn, and through which GOD warns us, the generations lived after.
Don+t stay muslim, catholic, Hindu, new ager, atheists, ignorant, satanic, Mormons, jehova Whitnesses.
dont be a thief and a robber.
John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Religions are masonic lies, false ways into heaven which masons have made.
Follow not nor believe masons, who give you lies after lies.
Seek out CHRIST, follow HIM and leave lies behind and your old life in the BABYLON:
Revelation 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Revelation 18:3
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." Good job brother!
I was not blessed with the ability to memorize verses or bring up truths from the bible. This is a wonderful video showing the love of Pastor Jeff.
What do you mean you were not blessed to memorize verses or bring up truths from the Bible?
@@annelieseharrison9027 I dont have a good memory
@@johnschaefer1503 nothing's impossible with God! Just keep studying it and keep praying! The Holy Spirit will help you.
@John Schaefer ask the holy spirit to help you, brother! Scripture says he will bring to your memory everything he said. Receive and believe it, and stay in the word!❤
JWs regularly use the Bible. That is why they can recall scriptures quickly.
Study the Bible with them. It will come naturally.
Thanks so much for posting this and for talking in the first place. You really approached those women with grace and Truth and gentleness. I learned from your exchange. God bless
I am teaching an apologetics class tomorrow on the JW's. The approach and discussion were spot on. I love your heart for the lost and confused. Thank you so much!
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God
Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever
Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation.
Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created.
The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century.
Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God.
Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God.
Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf.
Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God.
Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God.
Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God.
1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God.
John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God.
John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped.
John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God.
There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God.
There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.”
There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God.
The trinity is a false doctrine.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@@Mr.DC3.1914 the linchpin is Revelations 3:14 - created. No other Scripture is direct as Apostle John’s revelation about eschatology. You can argue night and day like the Bereans (Acts 17:11). However, the Trinitarians will either accept κτίσεως - creation (pronounced ktiseōs) - or they will engage and debate. When you do engage in their debate explain Matthew 19:4 and Mark 10:6 where Jesus refers to our Father as the Creator. Thereby, you can reintroduce how Jesus is the beginning of creation as depicted in Revelations.
In the beginning was the word and the word was God. Jesus is the word.
@@dogelife7901 of course Jesus was the Word and WAS was used which is PAST tense
So much information in this video. I especially appreciate the mutual respect between them.
I grow a garden every year at my home. I go around the neighborhood & give away vegetables. I came across a JW couple. Just gave them some vegetables. They wanted to talk about the kingdom of God. Unexpected blessing the two showed up to my house today. We talked for an hour. I learned a lot & so did they. Looking forward to sharing my faith again & keeping the door open for future discussions about Jesus.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
good work brother
All JEHOVAH's Witnesses speak one language.
@@SivingmatLisaKaiku what language is that
@@jimrylander9143 From the Bible.
Christian here!!!! I LOVED THIS!!!!! New Subscriber here!!!!
I new JH witnesses had different studies and even visited a JH Hall with a friend and was curious what they actually believed if they say they follow the Bible!
Great! Knowledgeable! Respectful! Conversation!
Thank you,
I wish the title wasn’t so click baity but I’m guilty for clicking. This conversation was excellent! So respectful and loving, what a picture of love. Well done Jeff!
It's awesome that they listened for that long! It seems unusual nowadays for JW's to have discussions. I was born into and raised as a JW, but several years ago I came to Jesus.
And with God's grace, I was able to also wake up my dad. Sadly, most of my family is still in. My dad passed away a few years ago (I still can't help but cry and miss him every day), but he loved God so much and was so much happier in freedom in Christ.
God Bless you for trying to reach them. JW's are very difficult, but it's not hopeless.
I love that another stranger, a "passer-by", stopped and sat down to listen to the evidence of the trinity, and more.
There no trinty in the scriptures only in pagan minds I can give you in the beginning was the word and the word was with TON THEON GOD and the word was THEOS a god we’re is the trinity there ?
Jesus has a god Ephesians 1:17, 2 Corinthians 1:3 and 1 Peter 1:3
There is no evidence for a trinity. That idea was created by misguided people
@ 100 percent people still are today misguided to day ? They belive in lies sadly
The seed was planted brother great work
Thank you for this. There have been JW around the corner from my office for the past few months and I could not figure out how to approach them. This encourages me to do so. What a pleasant conversation. To Christ be the glory.
How may I ask is one going to approach JWs? With what?
JWs are being pulled out by God from all religions. They know what the religions they left teach.
They have taken this command seriusly.
(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
Hello sister how are you and how’s the family?
This is the kind of content that hooked me on Apologia years ago
Pastor Durbin, your zeal and courge to spread the gospel are always an inspiration. I pray that one day I'll be able to be as fearless.
God Bless you and all you endeavor to pursue.
Thankk you Jeff we love your work from South Africa may God continue to use you for the glory of his Kingdom
Igreja secundária de Jesus Cristo.
I love the way Jeff engages, one of the best and most influential apologetics I've ever witnessed. Gob bless you Jeff
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To say those don't happen in JW is just false, Jesus was very clear about his deity. Only when you contort the scripture does it bring uncertainty. But please understand in love I say this it seems instead of allowing scripture to speak for itself you are trying to comport human ideas and understanding. Please don't hear what I'm not saying, I'm not saying we lay aside our intellect and reasoning when we approach the scripture.
@@collectibles4u Jesus was made a little lower than the angels he was only a man
@@Scott-t2p
Made a little lower he is GOD, I Am, the Word was with GOD, the Word was GOD
By submission He took on human flesh.
@@collectibles4u made a little lower than the angels so he was no longer God
@@Scott-t2p
Show me where GOD can fail to be GOD.
Thank you Brother Jeff for your insight and humility in sharing the true Christ. Lord please rescue these woman. Sole Deo Gloria!
Thank you brother for sharing The Truth, The Life and The Love
Just had 2 JW’s at my doorstep & it was the 2nd time they came. I got to share the gospel as we discussed 2 important topics: 1) Deity of Jesus & 2) Hell being eternal damnation, please pray w/ me for Tim & Fiyumi. I pray they come a 3rd time & we can continue to discuss this! Jeff, thanks for the help & great example. as an 8 year old Christian that’s only 26 years old I have so much to learn.
Ever read of any disciples of Jesus going around sharing the idea that Jesus was God?
(Matthew 10:7) As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’
Jesus' disciples will preach about God's Kingdom. Matthew 24:14 is being fulfilled by JWs.
People who sit at home surely cannot be doing any fulfilling of Bible prophecy.
Just something to think about.
Why did this get me emotional?! This was beautiful. I commend Jeff for his gracefulness and patience in his explanation of the texts. I pray this encounter is the start of regeneration for these image-bearers of God.
I agree. This got me teary. His message is so beautiful, the good news is, by God’s grace, truly Good. This pastor’s message was delivered with a sternness and yet with such love. I wish I could be a fraction of the man that he is. This is what Jesus wants from all of us.
What regeneration? JW's have the absolute true understanding of Scripture. Col 1:15 in the NWT gives the correct meaning when speaking of Jesus creating "all other things". He obviously didn't create himself and several other Scriptures confirm that Jesus was created by Jehovah.
(Revelation 3:14) ..These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION BY GOD.
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@@djparsons7363 He was the beginning of creation because all things were created through Him, as per John 1:3 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (KJV)
JWs bear false witness.
@@Jschmuck8987 That's what I mean by twisting the Scriptures to promote a false narrative. He was the firstborn which means of all the things that were created, Jesus was the first. That is what firstborn means, the beginning of the Father's generative power. (De 21:17);
That's why the NWT says "all OTHER things" at Col, 1:16, because it makes clear the truth, that Jesus didn't create himself nor is he God.
Non JW's lie repeatedly.
@@djparsons7363 The point Jeff made at the 7:16 mark (I think it completely went over those two women’s heads and most viewers here’s head as well) were very bad points because if you look at other parts of the Bible, the word, “all”, use here at Colossians 1:16 does also have the meaning “all other” meaning as well. Take Luke 13:2 and Luke 21:29 as examples. It’s the same Greek word, but it’s translated as “all other”. So the claim that Jehovah Witnesses’ organization add words or take words out of the Bible has been false so far according to the evidence Jeff presented.
I’m a translator myself and I enjoy reading different kinds of Bible. I have long heard the debate around Bible translations. I think for Jeff to point out the difference in the translation may not be because he is dishonest, but simply because he does not understand how translation works. Take Genesis 2:18 for example. Just take a look at how different Bibles translate that one scripture. They are ALL different but the meaning is the same, are they not? Are we going to say the translations are wrong or simply that the translator chose words that they believe best or are the closest to the original language. There are words that one language may have, but the other language may not have. Just ask any bilinguals.
Jeff, Bible translators, and most viewers has not said anything about the name Jehovah in the NWT Bible, why not? Why is it that people don’t give the NWT praise for putting the name Jehovah (Yahweh) where it was originally was at or do most of you think the name was fabricated by Jehovah’s Witnesses? I not only read different Bibles in English but I also read them in Chinese. The name Jehovah does exist in the Chinese Bible. Unlike the English Bibles, the name Jehovah has been replaced by titles such as God and Lord, but you cant always do that with the Chinese Bible because it doesn’t always work that way in the Chinese language. Some Bibles would use the name Yahweh instead of Jehovah, but Yahweh is Hebrew not English, if a translator choose to use the Hebrew name for Jehovah then why not all the other names like Yehoshua for Jesus? So I appreciate the NWT’s consistency in this area.
By the way, I appreciate how both parties use the Bible in this discussion and they were both very polite.
You've gotten better and better at these interactions over time. Great job, Jeff! You inspire me to do the same.
Jeff’s skills with the Bible is the reason for my passion in apologetics and now polemics. I love how he knows Gods Word and how to share with gentleness and respect. God bless his ministry. And pray for those JWs.
Absolutely love this conversation. I wish all of his conversations were this way.
Man, I missed these street dialogue videos - these are my favourite. God bless you, Jeff, and the work you do. Looking forward to more!
Randomly stumbled across this video as I’m sitting in a hotel room in Salt Lake City on vacation. I was born and raised a Jehovah’s Witness in Chicago . I ran into JWs in downtown during my stay here . My mind is blown at how timely me stumbling across this video is .
Praise God!! I pray you know God loves you and wants to adopt you into his family. Just repent, accept Jesus is Lord, raised from the Dead, and died on the cross.❤❤❤
Daniel, this was no coincidence. If you have not yet, turn to Jesus. He is calling you.
Please see my two posts to Pastor Jeff Durbin, above!
Things he does not inform his readers about!
Danielavila
Just the demons at work! Jesus said that Satan is the god of this world and the Power of the air! The great deceiver……watch out! Be care of what you listen to! You were on your way to everlasting life in the Kingdom, that Our King, Jesus will rule over from the heavens over the earth. Read Daniel 2:44! Don’t be deceived by these unrighteous ones!
@@bonniemartell9750 Look in the history books. People were put to death on a torture stake not a cross. the King James Version reads at Acts 5:30: “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree [xyʹlon].” Other versions, though rendering staurosʹ as “cross,” also translate xyʹlon as “tree.” At Acts 13:29, The Jerusalem Bible says of Jesus: “When they had carried out everything that scripture foretells about him they took him down from the tree [xyʹlon] and buried him.”
In view of the basic meaning of the Greek words staurosʹ and xyʹlon, the Critical Lexicon and Concordance, quoted above, observes: “Both words disagree with the modern idea of a cross, with which we have become familiarised by pictures.” In other words, what the Gospel writers described using the word staurosʹ was nothing like what people today call a cross. Appropriately, therefore, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures uses the expression “torture stake” at Matthew 27:40-42 and in other places where the word staurosʹ appears. Similarly, the Complete Jewish Bible uses the expression “execution stake.”
Wonderful how Jeff listens as well as speaks. The art of true street evangelism we could all profit by! Bless you Jeff
I pray that all my Reformed brethren engage in gracious yet truthful conversations to evangelize those in error, just like our brother Jeff Durbin. May the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit be eternally praised!
He did this with so much love in his heart. God bless you!
after that - he went to the local watering hole and told the barkeep - I need Johnnie straight up - keep em coming
That ain't love. It's ego.
Jeff sadly could not HEAR Paul in Colossians where he lays a right foundation. Jeff parrots and so do the women but are not of the truth of 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 the COMMON faith Paul shared with Titus and which Jude says was delivered ONCE to the saints. Read our comment to avoid the spirit of ERROR - 1John 4v 6= ❤ Paul and Lynda
Jeff Durbin is truly a man of God. He is very respectable and loving person as a witness of his saving relationship with Christ thru faith and by His grace alone.
Jeff I just wanna say that I am grateful for the work u are doing out there ! You are a great representative of Christian’s with the way you conduct yourself ! You know the Bible inside and out and you also come across very respectful ! Thank you for all the work you do
Jeff did not HEAR Paul when he read from Colossians Paul shared a COMMON FAITH with Titus which Jude says that we MUST EARNESTLY contend for the faith delivered ONCE to the saints. Paul's faith is still preserved in 1Cor 8 v 4 to 6 in the Authorised King James Bible a word by word translation from the original scriptures. We are in the Father by Jesus Christ our Lord from heaven now made a life-giving spirit. One spirit even as you are called in one hope of your calling. In 2 Cor Paul was concerned about a different Jesus and spirit Read our extensive comment. Much ❤ Paul and Lynda
What about John 1:18?
Amazing brother may God give you always the right words in order more people to come to the truth and the only truth is Jesus greetings from Belgium from a small but blessed church
Sir I think you met the best witnesses ever. Loved how they were so free to air their views. Most of them don’t . I love their energy, it’s a proof they both seek Truth.
Except that convenient "shift change" lol. And the prodding from one of the women to attend one of their services to "change your perspective". And the "we agree to disagree". They seemed pretty hardened in their views.
@@natalyd9674 The Trinity believer was no less hardened in his views.
@@jimross1765 Exactly. Because the truth cannot be compromised. He had scripture to back him up. They had tradition and a book written by a man who claimed to be a prophet and nothing he said came true. Don't let tradition get in the way of salvation.
@@natalyd9674 On the contrary it is christians who have a traditional belief in the Trinity passed down to them by catholic dogma and adopted by its many offshoots of christian belief. JW reject this tradition as I do and I also have scriptures to back this deception of 3 gods in one. It is one of many pointless and fruitless discussions. It was Roman doctrine that started a belief in a Trinity and became widely accepted. Any who questioned it were put to death by burning at the stake alive. Both John Calvin and John Know did just that. Consider this if you believe that Jesus is God? John says: “No man has seen God at any time.” (John 1:18). But men have seen Jesus. Therefore, the expression “God” refers exclusively to God the Father. Jesus never refers to himself as God; he reserves that terminology solely for the Father. When someone called him “Good Teacher,” Jesus replied: “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” (Matthew 19: 17).
I will declare your name to my brothers.” (Psalm 22: 22). Jesus is: “the firstborn among many brothers.” (Romans 8:29). Believers are the brothers of Jesus. But we are not the brothers of God. God is our Father. The Holy Spirit is neither our brother or our Father. The Holy Spirit is the word of the Father that dwelt in the flesh body of Jesus. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Jesus is the second created Adam who never sinned and obeyed his Father. He is the first born son of a new creation into the Kingdom of God.
@@natalyd9674 Keep in mind he was the one that approached them with an agenda and was prepared. They had no idea this was coming.
wow, this guy is a great speaker. extremely composed,calm,gentle, and smart. Loved the video.
Correct! “Stay Alive until ‘75” was a real prophesy. What a great way to finish a very polite discourse. Our job is not to change their minds on the spot, but to leave them with a seed planted that may take root later on. Thank you for sharing this!
Love in all your videos how there's always someone listening in. Like the guy at the bus stop is listening to your conversation. Cool! 😎
I’ve noticed that every time you’re ministering and preaching, and having a scriptural dialogue with these wonderful souls, there is always someone that comes up to you and confirms what you’re saying. It reminds me of the verse where it says everything is established by two or three witnesses. God sent that gentleman to confirm to those ladies that you are speaking the truth of God. God bless you Pastor Jeff.
Or they are planted to appear in the video, lol. Seems a little to convenient to me.
@@terrybradshaw3394 But was the scripture wrong?
Crear exposition by the Christian pastor ,we can see the Jew’s don’t do good hermenéuticas or exegesis,it teaches us to learn the Bible and not follow other people without examine their teachings with scripture.
@@johnnyqpublic1000 The scriptures are not wrong, but his "explanation" of what he claims they mean are.
The Bible clearly states Jehovah is the only true God and there is no other besides him. (Deuteronomy 4:35) [Use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God. Use the American Standard Version, Divine Name King James Version, Young's Literal Translation or others that still have God's name]
The Bible clearly tells us that Jehovah is God's name and that will be his name forever. (Exodus 3:15) [Again, use a Bible that doesn't replace God's name with titles, like Lord or God.]
The Bible clearly states that Jehovah will give his glory to no one else. (Isaiah 42:8)
Jesus disciples identify him as the Son of God. (Matthew 16:16)
At John 10:36 after the Jews accuse Jesus of making himself a god, Jesus corrected them and called out their false accusation of blasphemy by reiterating that he had said, "I am God's Son". If Jesus were God, he would have admitted it there instead of correcting them.
Revelation 3:14 tells us that Jesus was the beginning of creation by God, yet he tries to claim that John 1:1 which says Jesus was with God in the beginning means he was already there before the beginning. He is wrong and that is not what the Bible says.
You must read the entire bible, not just a couple of verses to get the full meaning.
@@jaimedelcastillo1302 In your biased opinion, that is. However, what Jeff does is make partial claims. (He uses bad exegesis and hermeneutics, twisting what is said to his pre-existing beliefs.) For instance, he claims that 'firstborn' in the Bible, which comes from the Greek prototokos, means "preeminent" or "the highest position", using examples of where the inheritance of the firstborn went to someone who wasn't actually the firstborn. This definition, however, was a later added definition of the word, by trinitarian scholars.
The Greek root word "Proto" literally means first or only, as in prototype. And the Greek root word "Tokos" literally means to give birth to or bring forth.
When you examine the Bible in it's entirety, it becomes clear that Jesus is not God, but the first being God created.
The other word Jesus is called is only-begotten, which comes from the Greek word monogenes. Jeff claims this means unique or one of a kind.
However, the Greek root word "mono" is the part of the word that means unique or one of a kind, so that is only a partial definition. Mono means "one or only", as in monogamous, monopoly, monocular, mononucleosis, etc.
The Greek root word "genes" means to beget or to father, as in the King begot a male heir to his throne. There are other words from this root word such as genetics, as in, "Blue eyes run in his genes."
Monogenes literally means Jesus was the only being directly created by God. How could that be? Proverbs 8:22-30 shows that after being created, Jesus worked alongside God as a master worker. Doing what? Helping create everything else.
That is why Colossians 1:15 says that by means of him, everything (other than himself as the only begotten) comes through Jesus.
Jesus was created. - Revelation 3:14
Jehovah is the only true God. - Deuteronomy 4:35; Isaiah 42:8; Exodus 3:14
Wow, praise God! I have been "studying" with two JWs for months now, and have been putting off the deity of Christ for as long as I could. We got into it a bit last week (I shared Heb 1 vs Psalm 102... the one looked like she'd seen a ghost) and I expect to be discussing it again with them tomorrow. This video is so timely and such a beautiful example of loving truthfulness. If anyone has a moment, please pray the Lord will soften their hearts and that my kids will behave themselves so we can have a productive time.
I was one of Jehovah's witnesses all my life before I came to Christ. I actually met God through H M Sealey's Kingdom Rising novels - I saw myself in the characters caught in the cult and then I saw the beauty of "The King" and how different He was to the Jesus we learned about. Don't give up, the relief of stepping off the treadmill of good works and earning my own salvation and it's Jesus' waiting arms was glorious.
I am a JW and Ps 102 and Heb 1 it's so skin deep in reasoning that when JW's go away and study it they realize it's just a poor argument that an overzealous Trinitarian _thinks_ is some sort of scriptural revelation. It's not.
JW's believe Jesus was used in creation and hence why you only see creation ascribe as being made _through_ him and not by him personally. Therefore, its agency is at play and we'd expect to see expressions used of God also used of Jesus as God is the one working through Jesus as the true causation and therefore the source of creation. We see similar expressions used of others and God in the same mediatorial sense as we see of Christ.
Jesus isn't creator, the Father is, Heb 1:2, _"Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, _*_and through whom he made the systems of things."_*
A great passage I recently came across is Matthew 28:9-10. It passively states his divinity in that JWs would agree worshiping any one else but God is idolatry. It says the disciples upon encountering Jesus post resurrection, they fell to his feet and worshiped him. Well, in verse 10, he does not rebuke them, rather just tells them to fear not. The heretics authoring the NWT must've had a hell of time getting around this one. It's basically checkmate.
Unfortunately they change it to "do obeisance" even though it's the same word used in worshipping God and when the angel in Revelation stops John.
Kai, if Jesus were God, what would the Bible have to say about him to prove it? It says it explicitly and implicitly in so many ways, it doesn't seem like there would be any way to say it that would get through to someone who refuses to believe it. I pray for both you and these ladies that the Holy Spirit would reveal the truth to you.
Made my night to see more from Apologia!
The thee and thou has been put in for a reason.
Love these interactions. They really help. Love the respect Jeff always shows.
I love that last commendation from the white hair lady..."you truly know your Bible"🙌
It’s a practiced phrase they use to keep ppl from getting angry 😂
No it's not, it showing that it's nice that they love the bible where as many say they know the bible but it's just empty words
I love how lovingly you explain the truth to the deceived ❤ and I pray the Holy Spirit gives me the opportunity and the words to do the same when I visit my Aunt next week! I needed to see this! Good bless your ministry! 💜✝️💜
Prayers for you and your aunt! 🙏🏼
@@monew632 thank you! It looks like my mother and I will see her on Friday April 21, along with my uncle, and cousin. They all need to meet the Jesus of scripture. My mother and I would be honored if God chooses to use us for that. Please keep us in your prayers! - Jamie
Deuteronomy 4:35 Jehovah is the true God
Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God’s name, forever
Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation.
Proto is literally first, as in prototype. Tokos is the root word for “to give birth to” or to bring forth. It literally means that Jesus is the first one being created.
The trinity didn’t come about till the 4th century.
Monogenes is from the root word mono, meaning one or only, that is the part that means one of a kind. Genes is the root word meaning to father or to beget. So monogenes does mean only-begotten, or, the only one created by God.
Jesus himself said on multiple occasions that the Father is greater, that he didn’t do his own will, but the will of the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of Christ is God.
Hebrews 9:24 After his resurrection, Jesus entered heaven to appear before God on our behalf.
Acts 7:55-56 Stephen see’s Jesus in heaven, at God’s right hand. Not as God, but next to God.
Revelation 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of creation by God.
Ephesians 1:5 talks about the God and Father of Jesus. He has a God, so he cannot be God.
1 Timothy 2:5 there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus. He is the mediator between us and God, so this shows him to be a separate being from God, therefore, not God.
John 20:17 Jesus himself says he has a God.
John 4:23 tells us true worshippers worship the Father. Only Jehovah should be worshipped.
John 1:34 Jesus is the son of God.
There is not a single scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is God.
There’s not a single scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is “the only true God.”
There are hundreds of scriptures in the Bible that say Jehovah is the only true God.
The trinity is a false doctrine.
This is so great! I pray those ladies will come to the saving knowledge of the one true Christ. 🙏
Divine appointments. Thank you Lord for sending Jeff to these two sincere women. I pray You save their souls through a true knowledge of the Son Jesus Christ.
Amen
We need more videos of Jeff speaking to JWs and using scripture to contradict their beliefs. This is so great and informative.
How so? I note Jeff dismissed his own doctrine when he stated that the only way TO THE FATHER was through Jesus.
He notes himself that the Ultimate point is the FATHER!
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
You can try to contradict JW beliefs but it only works in the minds of those who don't understand truth. People are constantly defending their religion's lying teachings by twisting the Scriptures. You can claim that trinity, hell, immortal soul, and rapture are Scriptural but you can only present more lies to try doing it. There are no accurate teachings in all of Christendom's divided churches.
God bless you Pastor Jeff. Such a good polite converstation and a great evangalist
They called him Emmanuel which means God with us
Jesus has a god. Ephesians 1:17 2 Corinthians 1:3. 1 Peter 1:3
God bless you Pastor Jeff, thanks for posting these videos. I learn from the examples and the scriptures you quote. Keep up the great work, and may the Lord bless everything you put your hand too.
What may I ask did one learn?
I just came across your video, I’m so impressed on how kind and respectful you are to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I have always believed that we can all help each other to get closer to GOD. Awesome job 😁
Jehovah Witnesses are the False Teachers.
GOD is ONE....NOT THREE, my friends!
@@raygsbrelcik5578 we Trinitarians agree!!! Maybe your understanding of the Trinity must be flawed if you think otherwise.
Jeff I love your heart and your passion to share the truth with the lost. Thank you. I learn so much from you!
You make my spirit sing!!!! God bless your hearts ❤🎉
God bless you for this great job.
Really! You appear to be easily duped
Thank you for your kind ministry to bring the gospel to JWs! I was one for 34 years and got out and came to Christ 2 years ago. I want them so badly to know the love and freedom found only in God's grace. ❤
Lord bless you sister. His grace and mercy are overwhelming and resplendent
Why did you get out ?
Lord, please awaken the hearts of these precious women….. They don’t know how desperately wicked they are, and how much they really need your grace and truth….. Lord Jesus, help. Grant them the true gospel. Amen.
@@mancunianmartin558 Both!
@@gordianknot9595 no one is good, no not one
@@gordianknot9595”All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23 and “There is no one righteous, not even one.” Romans 3:10 and “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately, wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9….. If you don’t agree with those passages, then my friend, you have an issue with the Bible, and that is VERY dangerous grounds…
@@gordianknot9595 "why is the Bible trustworthy?"
God's word is supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) along with the most consistent/cohesive explanation for objective reality regarding all it's facets (origin, meaning, morality, destiny, logic, order, reason, sense, beauty, etc.)
"And how do you know?"
The Bible is the objective foundation for truth as explained above, how do you know your worldview is objectively true? What is your objective foundation for truth?
May the infallible God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!
@@Mr.Lateralus Thank you for the scripture!
God bless you brother and your family
Yes, Pastor Jeff approaches these woman with grace and doesn't attack them. He shares the Gospel with clarity and power.
Do you think God is going to be soft on JWs. He will say, you had a choice to know me but your stubbornness earned you a place away from me! JWs need to be told what they are. JWs support a group of satanic lying criminals and being all nice sure whatever they need called out on their leaderships lies deceptions and abuses! They are deceived and evil people and need to be stoped by force and locked up for supporting real estate crimes, mind control and child abuse!
Pastor Jeff is an annointed warrior!! You are an inspiration sir!! ❤
Why do you bypass, and BELITTLE, GOD the FATHER?
Anointed has one n.
@@raygsbrelcik5578Meet our Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9v6. Christianity gets God wrong since 284AD, after a Byzantine monk altered the gospel for the sake of political power and business profit.
LoL. Christendom anointed. The stupiest comment of the year.
If he was truly anointed, he would find no need to twist the scripture to suit his own unbiblical beliefs.
I really am advancing my biblical knowledge and faith getting into apologetics. This was so enjoyable to watch as a Christian that has JW neighbor and when we moved here we agreed to studies with them and enter into that world lightly for a short time. Instead of being manipulated into that. I was determined to grow my faith as a Christian and now have preached to them and 1 other JW who came to our door, needless to say they talk to us about their beliefs anymore, but we still have a very friendly, neighborly relationship and just be an example for them by the way we live.
Jw's are correct they are true Christians
I commend both parties..but it is really convenient to have your argument fresh, recently fresh in the mind, studied, then at the target you go. Like being caught off guard. I would love to see these two parties given this topic, the Trinity, meeting up at a coffee shop or sitting on some steps, with BOTH parties prepared to research and discuss this topic at the SAME time. That’s when two parties can equally learn from one another. In either instance, I commend both parties for searching out a relationship with our creator… It’s awesome to hear these researchers having a cordial discussion. Even if you agree to disagree..this right here is beautiful to see.
I love you Brother Jeff, I came across your channel like a month ago, and you explain the bible so well to people and it helps me, Thank you.
Read our comment. Jeff did not HEAR Paul in Cossians.❤ Paul and Lynda.
He's got a ton of videos..and James white ..go through them all
@@HLZBORO738 They are Wrong about this trinity thing. And Jesus is NOT
GOD, my friends-----That Office has belonged to GOD the FATHER for ALL
ETERNITY!
Amen.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 yeah okay bro lol
Dear @clintwarwick2191 Jesus is the only God 🙏
Thank You pastor Jeff. I learn so much here especially talking with my unbeliever friends. Glory to God!
Glory to Jesus...
Keep doing what you are doing sir.
Why do you IGNORE, or, BELITTLE, GOD the FATHER?
@@raygsbrelcik5578 we christians don't ignore or belittle God the father. We have an understanding from the bible that when you call the name of Jesus Christ, you are calling both father, son and spirit at the same time. After Jesus, God have no other name. Read philippians 2:9-11 , Acts 4:12-14,. The name of Jesus have been given to our dispensation. In the face of trial and temptation the only name you call is the name of Jesus. Once the name of Jesus is called both the father, son and spirit gose to war.
@@andrewajuzie9619 Between GOD the FATHER, and Jesus Christ....which ONE
is the, "One TRUE GOD," according to Scripture?
Am I to understand that, according to YOU, GOD the FATHER answers
to Christ? Funny----As I Study the Bible..., it's the diametric OPPOSIT, my
Friend!
@@raygsbrelcik5578 that’s the problem my brother. you study but you do not see; you do not hear. studying the bible SOLELY for history and debating and not for the purpose of deepening your relationship with the Lord is fruitless. I pray God softens your heart and opens your ears and eyes. i love you
@@frosty1947 Mr.Frosty----You do not Know me, therefore, you Assume, just
because I have a passion for exposing this Post Apostolic, Dark Age
Doctrine, that I lack a Personal relationship with my GOD, and HIS, "Only
Begotten Son." Not SO, my friend....Quite the OPPOSITE!
If you were to bother to Read/Study all my posts, you would See for
yourself----We offer a Very STRONG Apologetic, my good brother.
And I am Fully willing to engage you in a Deep, and Lively conversa-
tion. Are you willing, my friend?
With utmost respect.
Again and again Jeff is doing a great job! Praise the Lord!
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
I love the commitment of the cameraman showing the train while it passed
How appropriate, the song playing in the background. Love come down. Our savior who's love came down, suffered so that we could be saved. HaleluYah ❤
God Bless you Jeff, I was a JW too for long time but now I belive in Jesus only him❤
Sound phony. Sorry!
Can I ask how one became a JW in the first place?
Filled a form, gave a bribe or donation. or self appointed oneself?
Here are Jesus' words to help.
(Matthew 20:28) Just as the Son of man came, NOT TO BE MINISTERED TO, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”
Did Jesus even want any glory for himself?. Let alone worship.
@Tonga Khan not to by sorry, my English is not so good, i try to write good but you see how it is😆
My all family was JW and so I, I was 35 years in this Organisation, for 3 years I left JW because so many bad things happen in this Organisation, they are good people but they bible is wrong, I'm sorry dear friend for my English I hope you understand my what I try to write, God bless you❤️
@@tongakhan230 haha
@@Punio916 :It seems that one WASN'T actually a JW. Just accompanied the family to meetings reluctantly.
So how would one know what is believed by JWs?
IF JWs are NOT Jesus' TRUE DISCIPLES, who is?
@Tonga Khan hey, the JW not belive that Jesus is God! But in the bible is many verses that Jesus are God, the JW Bible are very different, they not belive that Jesus died on the cross, they only belive in Government Body, who hide pedophilia and other bad things, they strategy ist a false love, they manipulate people, I know what I saying I'll be there for very very long time, it's very sad because they are good people but unfortunately very manipulated by government Body and they learn methods.
Romans 15;20
It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation
An exceptionally respectful discussion. Unusual.
Pastor Jeff, you were born for this. You just have a boldness about you that's heaven sent. I notice that same spirit in other apologists it's truly a gift. I love the videos. And you're such a great listener and so calm they can't help but respond to your questions 😂😂😂😂
Jeff's a nice guy BUT he does not HEAR Paul when he read Colossians. Paul's faith delivered ONCE to the saints is preserved for us in 1 Corinthians 8 v 4 to 6. Avoid the spirit of error which takes away the drink of the thirsty _ Isaiah 55 v5 and Zech 2 v 10 and 11. NATIONS!! ❤ Paul and Lynda from Earnestly Contending for the Faith Ministry.
Simple question to ask those that do not believe Jesus is God - Why was Jesus crucified? Why did the Pharisees and High Priests condemn Jesus to death? For claiming to be God!
For claiming to be the Messiah and the Son of God, which they considered blasphemy. Nowhere does Jesus claim to be God.
@@bobbyfischersays1262 Correct - There is not a verse that Jesus says, "I am God". Jeff did a great job pointing out the scriptures that show where Jesus and the Father are One. When you read your complete Bible to the point you understand the intent God desired in the writing you will understand. This will require understanding Greek and Hebrew words since English is unable to fully convey the intent. Example - What does it mean to be the Son of God? Hint - it is not the same as the son of Bobby Fisher.
@@tbl8560 so your argument is: the original Biblical languages cover up the true esoteric meaning of the Bible and deep word study will reveal that "Son of God" = YHWH, which is a contradiction in terms. Cool. Thanks for the virtue signal though: guess I just don't know the Bible as well as you do!
@@bobbyfischersays1262 not an argument, just providing insight. Most read an English translation and interpret the writing based on the English language and they're perspective of it. When you read the word love in the New Testament, what meaning do you apply? How do you know what the intent of the passage is if you don't know which of the 7 Greek words was originally used that are translated to love in the English?
Both JW’s and Reformed Trinitarians are wrong. All ante-nicene Christians correctly believed the Father is the One God of the Bible just as Scripture states (1 Corinthians 8:6, John 17:3) but Jesus is “Theos” (God) in the sense of being the true Son of God with His Father’s divine nature. Read the Nicene Creed in Greek, it says there is One God, the Father, and One Lord, Jesus Christ, and Christ is “Theos” from “ton Theon” (The God), showing they are not God in the same sense.
Amazing work Jeff! You were the first person that touched me just by watching your videos and defending gods word and truth, one thing I suggest if you can pray for these ladies and everyone you encounter to help them come to know Jesus. God bless jeff
Dr. White and Jeff have been an amazing resource on defending the deity of Christ talking to JW’s and has caused me to be filled with excitement every time i run into them so i can confidently proclaim the truth of Christ to them