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The JW version of the Bible was supposedly transcribed from Greek. The problem is that the man who did it didn't speak, read or write Greek. That was proven in court. The Watchtower Organization goes to great lengths to prevent it's members from discovering this. Reading the Bible by yourself is frowned on. And many other tactics to stop the pursuit of truth. In short it's a cross between a publishing company and a cult. There are also well engineered financial ploys to keeping the believers in line. Plus heavy punishment for acting on one's own. Such as a strict form of shunning. This is both financial and social. Like I said, this is a cult. And the cult comes before God.
HELLO PASTOR, ARE YOU ANSWERING ? OR YOU JUST COLLECT THE MONETIZATION? I believe what the bible says. And the bible and jesus said He is the Son of God who sits at the right hand side of the Father. Jesus quoted david from book the of Psalms. The Lord said to my Lord, sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies Your footstool.. I Believe Jesus is the Son of God of the most high and He is the messiah. Just as peter answered Jesus.
It's very hard to explain Colossians 1 correctly, using the word "God". One must first understand Elohim, and then explain it, and then explain from there. Otherwise, it's a no go for many.
I can't help but point out how well reserved everyone is during their discussion. I appreciate him allowing the ladies to speak and ask questions without cutting them off and raising his voice.
Wow. Very nice. I’m a Christian and my brother is a Jehovahs witness. We don’t talk to each other. Last time I tried. He turned very agresive. But I pray for him every day.
Entiendo totalmente ese sentimiento. La mitad de mi familia creen que ser Testigos de Jehová es ser pueblo de Dios, cuando en realidad son los escogidos de Dios los que son parte del pueblo... No formar parte de una religión... Nuestras discusiones son interminables, solo podemos orar por ellos. Ánimo
Wife’s family is catholic and militant. Refuse to read the Bible. Just whatever church teaches. Constantly say we (anyone including them as non priests) are not qualified to interpret scripture.
I agree with you... But remember we do not fight against flesh and blood. His aggressiveness is not from God it's from something else. Just pray for him is all you can do. God bless!
At 6:25 the JW woman says "we're not here to step on anyone's toes or CONVERT anyone." As a born in JW for 37 years, I'd use that line on people all the time. I pray for these sweet ladies. I do pray they read Romans 3,4,5 and Hebrews 1. The Gospel of Grace...the undiluted GOOD NEWS is so healing and beautiful. (I was marked as an apostate by the JW religious leaders last year. I am shunned, but I am free. I am adopted by God now. #grace)
A L for you also dear bros and sis we never trust trinity only one god that is Jehovah Yahweh Adonai and son Jesus our savior Jesus is the way to reach god Jehovah but Jesus is not a god
@LSmoove 79 Ok. Thank you. I question why you didn't say that to him instead of just "no." Now, In the verse John 8:44, I agree. Satan is the father of lies. Now comes the Deuteronomy reference. I agree there too. The Lord our God is one God. But the trinity is defined as one God with three distinct persons. For the deity of Jesus; How do you refute Jesus' own words when he said in john 10:30, "I and the father are one."? he himself said he is one with God the father, as a single God with distinct persons. When Isaiah prophesied in Isaiah 9:6 he said the son that would be born would be called "everlasting Father, mighty God..." Jesus' name "Immanuel" means "God with us." Jesus is clearly God, and there is immeasurable amounts of scripture to prove it. (Philippians 2:5-8; is another.) For the Holy Spirit: When peter opened his letter, he distinctly mentioned all three persons of the Godhead (1 Peter 1:1-2). hen Jesus was baptized, the Father said "this my son..." but at the same time, the Holy Spirit of God descended like a dove onto Jesus. Again, Thank you for your response.
@LSmoove 79 where did he say that? and how does that even make sense? if Jesus has the ALL of the qualities of God (Omnipotence, omniscience, ...), then how is He not God?
This was beautiful! These two men truly showing Christ's love as we're instructed to do. I really took a lot from their witnessing. I have a long way to go.
I have family members that are JW, I don't subscribe to any particular denomination, but I guarantee you I have read more of the Bible than they have, multiple times. Read the word with the holy Spirit as guidance and you will find your way
@Sean Shaw It’s not that far off from anyone who does a little research. However, Jeff is wrong in his explanations. For example, when he says firstborn means preeminent that is not what the original Greek meant. The Greek Proto-tokos literally means what the Bible says. Proto means first or only, as in prototype. Tokos means to bring forth or give birth to. The “preeminent one” definition was added as an alternate definition to appease people who pushed the trinity doctrine because they needed an alternate definition in order to keep claiming what they had been saying. The other Greek word for only-begotten is the same thing. Mono-genes. Mono meaning one or only as is monochromatic, mononucleosis, monogamous, monorail, etc. and genes, guess what, is like what it sounds like. Think about when someone says “brown eyes are in his genes”. Genes means to beget, which means to father or to bring forth. As in the King hopes to beget a son as an heir. So only-begotten literally means that Jesus was the only being directly created by God. Proverbs 8:22-30 show that Jehovah created Jesus as the beginning of His way, and verse 30 shows that after being created, Jesus then worked alongside God as a master worker, helping create everything else. Colossians 1:15 & 16 make perfect sense. Jesus is the image of His father, the invisible God. He is the firstborn of all creation and through him (Jesus) all things (besides himself), so, all other things, were created.
@Phenom Anon The number of times you read is not as important as applying what you read. Or as important as accurate understanding so you can dismiss false teachings like the trinity and get to know the true God, (Deuteronomy 4:35 American Standard Version 35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that Jehovah he is God; there is none else besides him.) His purpose for the earth and mankind, what the kingdom is that Jesus taught his disciples about(Matthew 6:9-10) , what are “the last days “ (2 Timothy 3:1-5), etc. Satan and the demons know the Bible from cover to cover. They can twist it and deceive people. I’m sure they’ve read it more than you. So, who cares who’s read it more. Do you apply what you read? Do you use the Bible to discern the truth? Do you dismiss false teachings? Do you look at the times we’re living in and realize we’re living in the last days?
Here's just a very short list of JEHOVAH'S Witnesses "speaking what God did not command him to speak" and "what was spoken did not come true'. (Deut 18:20-22) God's Word the Bible's definition for a false prophet! 1940 - “The year 1940 is certain to be the most important year yet because Armageddon is very near.” - Informant, April 1940, p1 1941 - “Armageddon is surely near…” - Children, 1941, p.366 1941 -- "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work *in the remaining months before Armageddon,"* - Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p.288 JWs spirit directed *truth & "accurate knowledge"* 79+ years ago. *949 months!* 1942 - “Now, with Armageddon immediately before us…” - Watchtower, April 1, 1942, p.139 1946 - “The disaster of Armageddon… is at the door.” - Let God be True, 1946, p.194 1955 - “In the light of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, it is becoming clear that the war of Armageddon is nearing its breaking-out point.” - You May Survive in God’s New World, 1955, p.331 1966 - “Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed.” - Watchtower, October 15, 1966, p.629 (Luke 21:8) NIV He replied:"Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them."
LOL, even being (supposed) spirit directed by God this is who JWs are: "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
In the passage of Galations Quoted it says, let them be cursed. It is repeted, Paul was dealing with knostic Jews who were undermining his preaching. One point i would make is a child recieves the Fathers Blood. They need the truth, because they are antichrist.
they didn't provided one single quote in which Jesus said he was God, he did said according to the Bible : I am to way to the father and the the father lives in me, who, he sent me so that whoever believes in me should receive salvation for eternal life. anything besides this it can't be found.
@@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor because 🤴 James was a Trinitarian. A version of the 🤴 James was founded in error 😳 by scholars. Added Scriptures to promote the 3inone dogma. Which later versions took out certain passages. The followers of the Trinity follow King 🤴 James before they would even think to accept Archeological evidence. As if their King 🤴 James is the only word of God. When Trinitarians had the power of the beast behind them they would kill all opposers and burn their books in front of their institutions. Now days they play nice but we still get that false remark of, 'YOU are going to die in your sins if you do not repent for our blasphemy' 😤 Talk about judging others, isn't that Jesus's job. How do they even determine that? They can't because it is not their right to judge. They are not Gods, though they act as if they are. Blind hypocrites! We all know if the beast still had their backs they wouldn't just stroll up to these witness girls to chat. Thats why they brought their camera for power as back up because they are loosing faith. The beast is about to turn its attention on them. Saying your among the same prophets they had them destroy. Lies.
I've always admired Jeff's gentle and loving approach to witness and declare the Gospel of Jesus Christ as absolute truth.The 'Word' has always been Jesus and always will. Amen.
I think that it is wonderful when people with different views can really listen respectfully. While I agree with the male pastor, I am very, very impressed with these young women. Without the knowledge of the Greek language, the Bible can often be very difficult to understand fully. I read the Bible daily and have a college education, but it is by reading and by listening to pastors (such as these young men) that often these passages become more meaningful.
Well surprising mostly since both groups seemed indoctrinated pretty heavily . But I'd say since both believe in alot in comen . But if you ever feel a theist that God is not real . Lol well expect someone to cry and scream
@@eyemnew2991 It means that both of these parties believe in fairytales and it’s ridiculous they both think they are right. You have to be an idiot to not understand that.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 ....and Jesus Is God. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. - John 17:22-23 .biblegateway=KJV
@@Mrhootie333 So believers are God too if they are one with Jesus and the Father?? - Who is Jesus’s God? Who is Jesus repeatedly referring to as “my God”? Rev 3 12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name. Who is Peter and Paul referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@lloydhamilton6151 And how do you know that the Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the truth and Evangelical Christians do? I am certainly not trying to have an argument, but just more of an understanding. Jesus did not write The Bible.
Candace Wilson I like the fact they’re being respectful and calm to each other too. However, it’s just people arguing and debating over an invisible mythical magic man in the sky and a place you’re gonna go to when you die that we’ve got no proof exists and no reason to believe.
@@bskee001 You may not believe there is a God or Jesus, but I know they both exist. You will face Them someday, and I pray They will show you Grace, when you do.
He speaks truth my friend. Just choose to accept Jesus. He knows you are searching. Take a step of faith.Your feelings will mislead you,telling you No! Praying for you 💕
As a Christian and someone who has friends that are Jehovah's witnesses this was beautiful to watch - so respectful and all sharing truly the love of God
Agreed. As a former Jehovah’s Witness, who has moved to another level of Christianity and attends a Bible-based church, I LOVED to see to see this. We’re actually a lot more alike than these young ministers (e.g. all four of them) realize. They all portrayed the fruitages and spirit of the true God. Indeed, the identifying mark of a “true Christian.”
Jehovah's Witnesses are Unitarian Christians like the Apostles. A person who believes in the Roman Church's doctrine of the Trinity cannot call himself a Christian.
@@plc3496 "Another level of Christianity" have you joined one of the countless Trinitarian churches? Anyone who knows the Bible knows that Jesus has a God.
Hello @@ex-trinitarian5196 - "Anyone who knows the Bible KNOWS...." LOL! Glad to see you believe you have all the answers and I sincerely hope that brings you happiness and more importantly, closer to God. However, I'm not up for that type of Bible discussion and find it futile as it accomplishes nothing good. I spent most of my life KNOWING I had "the Truth" and spent countless hours having bible discussions from door-to-door, on street corners and in homes, etc., proving that "anyone who knows the Bible KNOWS...." I no longer find the need to prove to anyone that I'm one who KNOWS the Bible. "Knowledge puffs up...but LOVE builds up...." 1Co. 8:1. Jesus said that you will KNOW his people by the fruit they display. So, that's where my focus and joy lies . Matt. 7:15-20. Have a great day.
@PLC What religious group today has a worldwide brotherhood that shows that love which Jesus said would identify his people? One that is unified worldwide? There’s only one, Jehovah’s Witnesses.
@@oligrassi7290 and yet you're here, your heart is seeking out God every turn but your mind chooses to be prideful and "intellectually superior" you're not gonna live forever buddy might wanna drop the act and start actually looking for answers.
This helps me so much! I always had this "danger" feeling when approaching evangelism. Thanks for showing me how great and loving sharing God's word can be!
Yes, don't we all....but we can't let The Enemy Stop us from spreading The Good News. Praise Jesus Christ for opportunities to "Declare His Glory among the heathen; His Marvelous Works among all Nations."
Matt Arrera PRAYING 🙏🏾 FATHER, you know exactly who Matt is going to speak with. Prepare their hearts Bind every false /demonic spirit Help Matt keep in mind he is only the mouthpiece. Holy Spirit please pour your anointing on MATT Speak through him. Thank you for peace Calm Gentleness kindness show YOUR LOVE GOOD SEED. THANK YOU, LORD!! Can’t wait to hear the victory!!! God bless you brother. Pray for me to so same with the JW IN MY WORLD. THANKS BRO! 🙏🏾 AMEN 🙏🏾
my reply to you sir, is that jesus said, BY THERE FRUITS U KNOW MY FOLLOWERS,also said in matthew 7:21-23, not every one say to me lord,lord did we not prophecy in your name, and expel many demons in your name, and then i say to them,GO AWAY,from me your workers of lawlesness, what about benny hinn, sir not to mention many others, are they christians too,
There is more than one spirit being used to preach. Just because you feel the spirit doesn't make it holy. Just because you believe the spirit has opened your eyes to the truth doesn't mean you should disregard scriptures that clearly contradict your beliefs and feelings. Everyone is afraid to say I don't know to questions these days like they should have all the answers. Nobody has all the answers but God. And he doesn't tell us everything. Only what we need to know, which is who and what to love and why we should love and when we should love. It is the greatest commandment. We should focus more on that love than our own personal pursuits. And let go of the animosity and hatred. It says to hate what is bad, but it also says there are those who take the bad as good and the good as bad, those who take bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. We need to search hard and long before we make hasty presumptions about any other faith. Who is right and who is wrong. Who is putting their love first? What is that love? Is it the focus of their lives? Where did they learn this love or gain this experience and wisdom for love? What is your love? Extract the rafter before you can see clearly to help others!!!
Yea but the caption still says Awesome: pastors vs Jehovah‘s witnesses. Notice the VS? So the thing he said at the end about being able to talk and reason with each other? If the channel is all about love and respect and being able to reason then you shouldn’t put Versus between two names/groups. But I get what they are trying to do and you don’t have to love everyone to reason and talk but you do have to have respect and I don’t think he hand that considering the caption. Because he says these nice things like: being able to reason. But then he uses that caption, he’s contradicting his own words. Thanks
They are very well organized and keep their children on the straight path as much as they can understand in belief of God. I believe that mercy is the thing that may be missing not just from them but others. As even us sinners love eachother Jesus Christ said and I see it to be true. I can go to a crack house and heroin house and if I need food clothing a bed the majority will give if they have it. Just you know that they will steal from you also. But the gospel and earth were given freely do we give them to eachother freely ?
@@brianryden363 Regardless of having chosen an imperfect title the fact that they are spending their lives trying to reach people with the love of Christ demonstrates their love for all lost people. Rather than looking for ways to find fault I wish we all had their dedication. Love you, man.
Talayar Mein It also says in I Samuel 15:3 that God commands the slaughter of infant babies and children. But I’d pay you the respect to assume you don’t “value” that part of the “Word” since killing newborn babies and young children can’t ever be justified. At least I sure hope not. O_o
@@bskee001 There is a justified answer for why God commanded to kill the Amalekites. In (Exodus 17:8-16) the Amalekites attack God's Israelites. In Deuteronomy 25:18 they had no fear of God and rather to be obedient children they rebelled; and then God wage war with them because they chose death rather then God's salvation. They were an enemy of God to prove that their strength of their gods is greater than God's.
Talayar Mein Sooo God couldn’t at least spare the infant babies instead of slaughtering them?!? I mean after all, HE’S GOD!!! There wasn’t ANY other more loving and compassionate decision God could’ve made AT LEAST for the babies who had no part in attacking the Israelites?!? Really?!?
@@bskee001 "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." (Ex. 20:5-6)
@@bskee001 You see, the parents brought sin upon their children. They didn't bless their children and never the most repented of their sins. It's like Adam and Eve, even though they were innocent they disobed because they knew it was wrong to eat from the forbidden fruit, therefore they sinned and that means death.
So disrespecting and arguing others religions THAT BELIEVE IN THE LORD AT THAT is ok? The jehovah's witness there beliefs, isn't that what the Christian us doing? It's all a scam to get people to join your church and give tithes. Sorry not sorry
Great way to talk to one another. No one raised a voice. Uplifting and upbeat while also teaching and informing. Just like how you would expect to see brothers and sisters getting along
@@jeffokriya3389 No - people willing to have a conversation about the faith and willing to listen - even when it is difficult. Pretty good start. But if you see it as celebrating apostasy ...
@@Seosg007 . . Taze Russel was seen in Hell in great torture by a faithful witness that Jesus took there . . all those false preachers including LDS´s founder J. Smith caused great damage to God´s kingdom
@C S Oops; I obviously struck a JW nerve ... and BTW the RCC is only the harlot mother of all of new age religions, including your JW cult. The RCC has only been formalised since 325 AD.
Dave Thawley Ok so my question is this if JW are not correct . Then what is going to be the purpose of life ? And what is going to happen when we die . Also then that means what is going to be our reason of why we are here and if god exists ? Or not
Greetings! If they were truly sincere, there would have been no camera to video this for all to see. So many of us still seeking rewards from men. It's one thing to video tape a sermon, but another to video tape ourselves debating with fellow brothers and sisters. This is not the way. Jesus Christ is adamant about us being modest in prayer and giving in alms and with all things concerning spreading the Gospel. Peace and Love to you and yours! Glory and Praise be to God in the name of Jesus Christ!
No its not!!! this man got himself into this conversation by throwing christians reputations to the lions!!! Saying how these JWs are more loving and passionate than most christians!!! Unbelievingly disrespectful to all those thousands of christians through time and space that suffer and lay their lives down for their love of christ.....
@@jesusfirstto-the-pointendt4552 This channel has helped me immensely with apologetics. They record for educational purposes. They arent doing it to boast, but simply showing us how to have proper dialogue with certain groups.
@@justinhannah3722 They come in sheep's clothing. There are other ways to help you. This is the wrong way. They have tons of videos of confronting people. This is not the way. The one pastor also brags in the titles of his own videos. Jesus Christ gives us a commandment to be kind but He also gives us permission to be smart. The Holy Spirit is our teacher - not man.
@@jesusfirstto-the-pointendt4552 Nothing wrong with taping. It is a good example as a HOW TO witness. These are very humble yet BOLD young men. JW's are NOT brothers and SISTERS as they do not believe in salvation thru faith in Christ alone.
So far I seen these jehova witness be respectful and willing to hear ! I’m praying for these young woman , because of their humbleness Jesus can touch their hearts , I hope the find the true meaning of Jesus and the gospel! Thanks for this I’m learning a lot
@Mayra Garcia What is the true meaning of Jesus and the gospel? John 3:16 tells us that God loved the world so much that he gave His only-begotten son so that people might live. Why was that sacrifice necessary? 1 John 4:9 tells us we can gain life through God’s only-begotten son. What life? We already have life. What did Jesus teach about? What was his gospel? At Matthew 6:9-10 Jesus taught us things we should pray for in the model prayer. First was the sanctification of God’s name. Why would that be necessary? Jeremiah 23:27 shows that by means of false prophets and false gods, Satan tries to get people to forget about the true God, His name and who He is. Deuteronomy 4:35 American Standard Version 35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that Jehovah he is God; there is none else besides him. What else was Jesus gospel about? He also taught us to pray for God’s Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth. What is that Kingdom? What is God’s will for the earth? Daniel 2:44 tells us the time will come when God will destroy all the kingdoms (governments) of the earth amd establish His Kingdom. Revelation 21:3-4 tells us at that time there will be no more pain or death. Psalms 37:11 & 29 tell us the meek and righteous people will live forever in peace on earth. Matthew 28:19-20 and Matthew 24:14 show that Jesus gospel was to spread the good news about God’s kingdom to everyone. Who are the ones teaching about the true God, Jehovah? It’s not these pastors who are teaching a false doctrine like the trinity. Who are the ones teaching the same gospel as Jesus, about God’s Kingdom and His purpose for the earth? It’s not these pastors who are preaching about heaven and hell who don’t even think about God’s purpose for creating the earth and mankind. I would say these sisters are already on the narrow path Jesus talks about at Matthew 7:13-14. Most people follow what is easy and popular without doing any study on their own. Matthew 24:36-42 Jesus tells us to keep on the watch for the sign of his presence because the time will be like the days of Noah, people won’t care and will be living life, until Armageddon comes and it will be too late for them to jump on board.
The God of the Holy bible is the true living GOD.... Brother I say you find Jesus.... In the old testament there were sacrifices for the sins that you committed against the most high, God got tired of all the fake sacrifices that everyone was making because none of them truly turned people away from there sins.. oh but brother JESUS CHRIST DOES... and he became the ultimate sacrifice for all of us and our sins... he is the sacrificial LAMB.... the final sacrifice....
@@Lystra_Machuca9589 Is he a liar to you? He (Jesus) said the Only true God is the father. I don't know how you people think but something is not right with you. You will accuse Jesus of anything.
@@ultimatetruth9241 please tell me what is your truth?.. who do you say jesus is? And who does he say he is?... I never went to a church to find out who Jesus is. All I did was read my bible and it said it with the WORD... that's Gods word... what religious background are you Brother..
@@Lystra_Machuca9589 I am Muslim and I quoted you some verses from the Bible proving that Jesus had never claimed to be God. He said in John 17:3 the ONLY TRUE GOD IS THE FATHER. He does not know the hour (resurrection day). He said he cannot do anything on his own. Does that sound like god? ???? No it does not. Read the Quran and don't go to mosque. Just read it the way you read the Bible and you will see the truth. That's the only advice that I can give you. If you are sincere in searching the truth, I promise you will find it. Good luck brother. Peace
Pastor Durbin and his crew are always RESPECTFUL to JW's and preach with mildness as the bible says. They are never rude or argumentative with them. *thumbs up*
@@fabiancortez2256 Many so called Christians on RUclips are not that way! They are confrontational with them and yell at them and not nice! There are plenty of videos on here to prove that. Pastor Durbin is not that way and I gave him credit for being a "real' Christian towards them. Have a good evening.
Oh Gosh! How fantastic! What a great dialogue. These two gentlemen are well-versed in the Bible and have a great dialogue with the two dedicated ladies of their own faith and beliefs. Awesome!!!
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
they sowed weeds :He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field.x 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26 When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared.
JW recognize the Thorn Crown exposed at the Notre Dame fire that Napoleon placed there came from the king mention Deuteronomy 28;36. Caused Napoleon to try to do a take over of ROME.
Who are the Gods mention as representing wood and stone in this verse. King James Version The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
This level of respectful interaction is so encouraging. Hearing the wind, waves, and even the rooster crowing are all signs of our beautiful Creator’s distinct ability to communicate with us. Our ability to rest in His works is so difficult at times, but praise God for His goodness.
OH MY GOODNESS. This has to be one of the most amazing and love filled dialogs I have EVER seen. Im growing and learning reformed theology more and more and realizing just how important it is to also know how to communicate a message effectively in order to do gods work, and this blew me away. Jeff, you and your friend are so loving and gentle, you can’t help but listen and be polite with your attitude. Not only do you have zeal, but you have the Bible verses and knowledge to back up every key point and it shows that you’ve put in diligent studies into knowing what JWs stand for so your prepared to counter with the Bible. Thanks again, I will continue to work on my speaking skills and knowledge of the word.
It's "God's" not "gods". Always capitalize the letter "G" in "God". Me correcting you isn't a small matter. If you truly believe in God, then give respect to Him, even in written form.
Take a hint from this conversation America. Stop acting angry, come together, respect one another, and work through our issues peacefully. Arguing and insulting one another accomplishes nothing. Love this channel. God bless.
@John Dear well teach me teacher!christ of prosperity,name it and claim it,word of faith,the one that lets you live like anyone else,the genie christ, Micheal the archangel,the brother of the devil,the great prophet..and the twisted one you have sir...and its you who mentioned Jehovah is the devil..this is an open forum..you dont expect a remark after such a sick comment?come on grow up
Praise the Lord for His truth! Thank you, Apostle Jeff for being so eloquent and loving while navigating these difficult conversations. We can all learn so much from how you speak! All glory to God! I pray shalom be multiplied to you all.
Right. I was thinking the same thing regarding the VS part. I appreciated this particular conversation, although I do not agree with the pastor, I thought it was a very civil conversation. I saw some other video's from them, and IMO, it feels like they are blowing their own trumpet to receive praise from others.
@@toomuchtruth I agree with you there. I'm sure the women were not expecting to be featured in a "VS" video and were under the impression they were just having a friendly discussion.
Well, yes I remember a jehovah's witness deceiving me to get into my home as a new Christian. If they are tricking them that's no different than what happened to me .. they say it's an interview but use trickery. That's wrong. Just be upfront or it's basically a lie .
YOU-HAVE-BEEN-WARNED thanks for that. Salvation is by faith ALONE. There is no other requirement. This is something that when you see, you cannot un-see. The gospel of Jesus is that He died for our sins, was buried, and raised after 3 days, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE! We all still sin in the flesh. But we are imputed with righteousness because we Believe!
This is one of the very few channels I have found of someone just having a very respectful and formal debate. Lots of knowledge and information of defending the faith and evangelism here
@@Belinda.Villas from what I understand, the org does "generally" teach that abortion is wrong. But looking at their most recent article on their website (2017) it sounds like they're not saying IUDs are bad, but just "potentially" bad. That's still deeply problematic, to be sure. But I wouldn't go as far as saying they "believe in abortion". They just don't stand against it as accurately and strongly as they should if they really believe that is is murder. Don''t get me wrong - it's a terrible and unacceptable compromise they're making. I just think it's important to be accurate in representing them.
Servants of Jesus? God calls Jesus his servant. Matthew 12:18 - "Behold, this is my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased; I will put my spirit on him, and he shall declare justice to the nations."
I'm an ex JW, ex New Ager. Now Christian, one of the things that helped open my eyes about the JWs was a Bible that I found from a Christian store that was inside a mall, when I compared the Bible to that I noticed how the New World Translation had missing scriptures.
Awesome :) I love hearing about people who have come out of Mormonism or the Watchtower Another stolen sheep recovered for the body of Christ, welcome home.
they lost it at the end.. they are incorrect about obedience. So both sides are preaching a false gospel in this video. Most evangelicals make this error. They confuse old covenant works (circumcision, feasts, animal sacrifice) with obedience to Christ. Obedience Christ is not a work of the old covenant law. Christ brought us the new covenant. To be saved you absolutely must obey Christ. If you aren't obeying Christ then you haven't made him your Lord. True faith must produce the fruit of obeying/following Christ, else it's dead faith. ** Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? ** Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. ** Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM. **
Well. In my personal opinion and based on my experience. You can't just throw all of the laws to Some one you are evangelizing to. It will definitely stir up a fight or push away the other person. Instead, slowly follow up with love and show them those verses when you invite them to fellowship. What's most important is a personal relationship with God. Then Holy Spirit will guide them to obedience. Sorry for my broken English
@@storma22 There are many different interpretations depending on which Christian Denomination you belong to, but I have found Jehovah's Witnesses to be one of the most accurate and well researched of them all. The most common is that of the Catholic teachings. Now during the 3rd & 4th Century C.E the Roman Emperor Constantine had converted to Christianity because he had witnessed the Sun in a Shape of a Cross and searched for answers and found Christianity to be his chosen Religion. During his reign he included his Christian faith within his Political affairs. And he and the Nicaea Council inducted many philosophical teachings including the Trinitarian Doctrine, the Cross to symbolize and promote Christianity when the bible clearly states not to use Symbols or worship Idols(Idolatry), The Sabbath being on a Sunday instead of Saturday when the Bible mentions the Sabbath being on the 7th day of the week not the 1st (Exodus 16 : 25-30). And also Hell being a fiery place of Eternal Torment, when in fact the word "hell" is derived from the Hebrew word "Sheol" which means "resting place for all mankind" to await Gods judgement, And death being the penalty for sin not hell, so as to return to dust (Romans 6 : 7)(Ecclesiastes 3 : 20). Emperor Constantine also wanted to promote Christianity to convert the people of Rome by including Pagan Holidays such as Christmas and Easter. Now you see, a lot of what has been taught around the world is the Beliefs of Constantine's Philosophies and his orders to change the System of Beliefs(Creeds) with the Nicaea Council were final, and the Bishops who opposed his beliefs had no say in it. Before Constantine's ruler-ship During the 2nd siege of Jerusalem in the 1st Century C.E, the Israelite's(Gods true Followers) fled the city before Titus and his army had arrived(Luke 21 : 20-24). And the Israelite's had with them the Original Bible Manuscripts containing Gods Name, which is the four letter Hebrew word יהוה (Tetragrammaton) "YHWH" Yahweh, or Jehovah in English. The Pharisees(Rabbis) had destroyed all other copies of the Original Bible Manuscripts, and ordered Scribes to write new ones but replacing Gods name with "LORD". For example ISAIAH 42 : 8 says "I am LORD, your GOD". LORD is not a name, it is a TITLE. Due to the Pharisees implementing the "Fence Laws" they refused to Proclaim Gods name to the nations. You see what you have learnt today is mostly the Bible beliefs of the Roman Catholics, and being that most Christians have similar beliefs to Catholics its a majority rules. True Christian Teachings is a lot deeper than you think, but whats important is to Follow the Bible Principles and apply them within our daily lives.
Very humble and loving Spirit you share with these young ladies.Thank for what you do . So refreshing to see the loving Spirit and truth you represent.
I just absolutely love how much love, respect, compation, and understanding that goes on during this exchange. I learned so much here. THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! Touched my heart.
This was so good you guys did this in love and truth I was raised jehovah wittiness I’ve been born again over 15 years praise be to GOD he opened my eyes keep up the good work my friends
I agree with you @Letitia Roberts , the JWs are brainwashed by the watch tower who have taken the position of Jesus Christ.. I am glad I left the cult ..
Letitia Roberts No one shows true Christianity like Jehovah’s Witnesses. No one has more love among themselves like Jesus said his true disciples would have.
His word is life. Revelation 18:2 He cried out in a powerful voice, “Fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen! She has become a home for demons. She is a prison for every unclean spirit, a prison for every unclean bird, and a prison for every unclean and hated beast. Take notice to the fact that even John in Revelations knew what clean and unclean foods were. His words were chosen wisely here to show that every unclean thing was being imprisoned in Babylon. Notice that clean and unclean animals were separated in the beginning of the Bible (Torah) and still mentioned here at the very end of the Bible. So from the beginning to the end, they still considered things clean and unclean to eat. We would submit to you that nowhere in between was it done away with. If it was then John wouldn’t still be talking about it in Revelations. “Always Learning” Biblical Truth Matthew 24:12 Verse Concepts "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 1 John 3:4 Verse Concepts Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 2 Corinthians 6:14 Verse Concepts Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Matthew 13:41 Verse Concepts "The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Well done to the 4 of you. No bullying, No aggressiveness, No diminishing. It was really great to watch and listen to your conversation despite differentiating on a few points but with great politeness out was engaged. Honestly. It s really great❤
As an ex Jw, now born-again, I found that one of the best, loving and respectful approaches to evangelism I have seen in some time. I witness to Jws, so this has given me some food for thought as to the approach I should take. God bless you.
Aubrey Shatner Any questions ask Aubrey she or he will set you straight thank you for this. It should prove to be a smack in the face to those who wish to contend with the Almighty bravo bravo bravo. I didn’t watch the whole conversation I have no need to do so since I know that these men seek human glory by making these videos and they forget that love of the world is enmity with God ! lol this should set them straight for picking on his beautiful servants again thanks Aubrey wherever you are
I REALLY enjoyed this video. I love watching videos showing not only an example that you can have loving dialog with people of other faiths but also HOW to loving present the Gospel of Jesus Christ to those people (thats what I really love to see...and Pastor Jeff is great at doing that! I just found Apologia vids (the Cookie sermon was the 1st one I saw). Love how Pastor Jeff breaks it down!
Wow That was amazing,To actually stand on the love level and agree to disagree God bless you my Brother's in Christ for passing on this message of love from both sides,l am a born again Christian but l have never even thought of doing this.Our God is good indeed our Jesus is love Hallelujah 🙌🙌🙌❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's actually amazing to see such a beautiful dialogue between two very contrasting belief systems like this. I believe as the 2 gentleman do, but I had a conversation just this last summer with 2 fantastic ladies that were from the same belief system as these 2 ladies are, and they were wonderful to talk to. We may not see eye to eye on our most basic beliefs in Christ Jesus, but that doesn't mean we must hate one another, I pray for them, and all people from other walks of life, we must always remember, to love one another, as Jesus has loved us, we can either plant the seeds, or water it, but it is God who gives the increase. The Father thinks it, the son love's it, and the Holy spirit carries it out! All glory be to you my Lord, my I decrease, and you increase!
There are unbelievers and then there are false teachers. Guess which those two "ladies" fall into. Do not be deceived, Saints (Christians) were not commanded to love false teachers (vipers).
@City Of Charles Dirt You're saying Christians accuse JW folks unable to hear our Lord's Words, which is true, but we hear or don't hear on the subject matter of death in the Holy Bible? If you're asking for my understanding of the scripture, once physically dead (humans) our perception is zero, like the Bible says many times in the OT and the NT. You should quickly move away from the NIV and get yourself KJV. The NIV refers to our Lord Christ Jesus as an angel cast down from Heaven (Satan).
This was great and inspiring! The way you talk to people, with love and respect but without putting aside the Truth even though it can be uncomfortable. Thanks for showing Christ to the world, God bless you!
they lost it at the end.. they are incorrect about obedience. So both sides are preaching a false gospel in this video. Most evangelicals make this error. They confuse old covenant works (circumcision, feasts, animal sacrifice) with obedience to Christ. Obedience Christ is not a work of the old covenant law. Christ brought us the new covenant. To be saved you absolutely must obey Christ. If you aren't obeying Christ then you haven't made him your Lord. True faith must produce the fruit of obeying/following Christ, else it's dead faith. ** Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? ** Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. ** Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM. **
There are many different interpretations depending on which Christian Denomination you belong to, but I have found Jehovah's Witnesses to be the most accurate and well researched of them all. The most common is that of the Catholic teachings. Now during the 3rd & 4th Century C.E the Roman Emperor Constantine had converted to Christianity because he had witnessed the Sun in a Shape of a Cross and searched for answers and found Christianity to be his chosen Religion. During his reign he included his Christian faith within his Political affairs. And he and the Nicaea Council inducted many philosophical teachings including the Trinitarian Doctrine, the Cross to symbolize and promote Christianity when the bible clearly states not to use Symbols or worship Idols(Idolatry), The Sabbath being on a Sunday instead of Saturday when the Bible mentions the Sabbath being on the 7th day of the week not the 1st (Exodus 16 : 25-30). And also Hell being a fiery place of Eternal Torment, when in fact the word "hell" is derived from the Hebrew word "Sheol" which means "resting place for all mankind" to await Gods judgement, And death being the penalty for sin not hell, so as to return to dust (Romans 6 : 7)(Ecclesiastes 3 : 20). Emperor Constantine also wanted to promote Christianity to convert the people of Rome by including Pagan Holidays such as Christmas and Easter. Now you see, a lot of what has been taught around the world is the Beliefs of Constantine's Philosophies and his orders to change the System of Beliefs(Creeds) with the Nicaea Council were final, and the Bishops who opposed his beliefs had no say in it. Before Constantine's ruler-ship During the 2nd siege of Jerusalem in the 1st Century C.E, the Israelite's(Gods true Followers) fled the city before Titus and his army had arrived(Luke 21 : 20-24). And the Israelite's had with them the Original Bible Manuscripts containing Gods Name, which is the four letter Hebrew word יהוה (Tetragrammaton) "YHWH" Yahweh, or Jehovah in English. The Pharisees(Rabbis) had destroyed all other copies of the Original Bible Manuscripts, and ordered Scribes to write new ones but replacing Gods name with "LORD". For example ISAIAH 42 : 8 says "I am LORD, your GOD". LORD is not a name, it is a TITLE. Due to the Pharisees implementing the "Fence Laws" they refused to Proclaim Gods name to the nations. You see what you have learnt today is mostly the Bible beliefs of the Roman Catholics, and being that most Christians have similar beliefs to Catholics its a majority rules. True Christian Teachings is a lot deeper than you think, but whats important is to Follow the Bible Principles and apply them within our daily lives.
@@storma22 There's a difference between obeying because Christ is your Lord and obeying because that's necessary for your salvation. Salvation comes from faith alone, not works. Works are a consequence of Jesus in your life, they do not bring nor help you achieve salvation in any way shape or form. The Bible is clear when it says that if you believe your works have any influence in your salvation, the sacrifice of Christ have no effect on you and you must obey all the law and try achieving salvation that way. Which needless to say it's impossible because only God is sinless, only God is good.
I was baptized at 14 at the Dodgers stadium...and am so happy that I got free from that cult at 18. So happy God showed me who He is in 1986...when He sent 2 JWs to our very secluded house and was led to just read the book of John from beginning to end. Was born again by believing and knowing Jesus Christ IS LORD!! Thank you Lord!!
I was also baptized at the Dodge Stadium. I left too. We were not taught anything about Jesus only Jehovah. I have been anointed by the Holy Spirit and I am only grateful for their foundation. I study and meditate on HIS word daily. My mom is still a JW and she has never experienced the HOLY SPIRIT in her life and she's 95 years old.
I have a JW friend, beautiful spirit but generationally thick in it, door is shut, for now. Her name is Michelle, pray for her if you can. Thank you and God bless. James 5:16 The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
@Ann Cameron So at 18 you knew it all? What part of John helped you see that “Jesus is Lord”? Was it John 1:14 where we see that Jesus had a glory as that of an only-begotten son from a Father? Or verse 18 that clearly explains that no one has seen God at any time, but the only-begotten god, Jesus, who is at the Father’s side, is the one who explained God to us? Or is it John 2:16-18 that clearly show Jesus is God’s son, His only-begotten son? Was it perhaps John 3:35 that tells us the Father loves the son and has given all things into his hand? Perhaps it was John 5:19-38 where Jesus discussed being sent by his Father and doing his Father’s will? Was it John 6:27 that tells us that the Father, God himself, puts his approval on or verses 38-40 where Jesus explains that he came down from heaven, not to do his own will, but to do the will of his Father, who sent him? Maybe John 8:42 where Jesus said that he came from God. Or, verses 53-59 where Jesus explains that he existed in heaven before Abraham’s day and that his Father bears witness about him? Yes, the entire book of John shows Jesus explaining over and over to the people and the Pharisees that he was sent by God, his Father, that he was here to do his Father’s will and that he came to sacrifice himself for mankind and die for our sins. Jesus is Lord, but he showed repeatedly that he is subject to His God and Father, Jehovah. (John 20:17)
What people are blind to is Jesus was not a jw, 7th day, Pentecostal, babtist etc. If people just followed the simple gospel of Christ there would be no division.
Jesus is a Jehovah's Witness. In fact he is the foremost of Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact John called Jesus "the faithful WITNESS" at Revelation 1:5. Compare Isaiah 43:10.
@@grandcherokee1407 being CALLED the "faithful witness" is NOT the same thing as a group of people, claiming THEMSELVES to be WITNESSES of Jehovah. Someone calling you a faithful witness, means they see you as a faithful witness and to your CREDIT you most likely are, BUT calling yourself a witness, is a whole different thing and brings DEBT unto yourself - instead of freedom. Completely different!
@@dussemccussay3995 Jehovah God and Jesus Christ sees us as faithful witnesses as we imitate our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Just as he was referred to as the faithful witness at Revelation 1:5 so too Jehovah identifies His faithful servants as His witnesses as shown at Isaiah 43:10. A witness of someone speaks in behalf and in favor of that individual. So JWs speak in favor of and on behalf of Jehovah God the Creator of all things that exist including Jesus. Yes! Jesus was created. As for your "group calling themselves witnesses' comment the Bible speaks of A GREAT CLOUD OF WITNESSES or as the King James Version says " so great a cloud of witnessess" according to Hebrews 12:1. Oh I wish that I was there with these sisters to speak with these gentlemen. John 1:1 doesn't mean that Jesus is God.
Correct that he was not any of those religions. He was Jewish. And he did not bring a new doctrine, but believed and preached Torah. He was not sent to do his own will, but God’s will.
@@artbigotti2640 he was JEWISH? Since when has the JEWISH been around? I could of most certainly guessed correctly that Jesus came from the house of Judah, so he had to be a JEW. But JEW-ISH.....???? so he's SORT OF LIKE A JEW? As in if someone asks me "are you young?" And i answer "im young-ish" that would mean im similar to young, BUT NOT ACTUALLY YOUNG.
@Pepper Honestly ? do you really want me to rip this apart ? No 1 the bible like most works of fiction incorporate real people An earthquake in an earthquake zone fuck me thats convincing, just about as convincing as a prophesy of a war between 2 tribes One half of Josephus is a proved forgery about Jesus but if we take the probably original At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon their loyalty to him. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive. Accordingly they believed that he was the Messiah, concerning whom the Prophets have recounted wonders. Thats it not exactly convincing THEY BELIEVED is about as good as that gets . Now the interesting question is how DO YOU know what god put in the bible and what man did. How do you know Jesus was god and more importantly how does an immortal being die ? To forgive our sins and only dead for 3 days ! What possible reason would god just float around the world for 30 odd years after a completely unnecessary birth. Could it be that most unconvincing part of the story have been shoehorned in to fulfil yet another false prophesy ? Btw the basis for the story the census is complete bollocks ! Are the storys convincing ? Hmm pretty much every possible stance is put into the contradicting storys, basically its a method for anyone to justify anything
@Pepper From the bottom ! There is no record of a census at the required time The Gospel of Luke uses it as the narrative means to establish the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem , but the Gospel of Matthew places the birth within the reign of Herod the Great, who had died 9 years earlier. No satisfactory explanation of the contradiction seems possible, and most critical scholars think that the Gospel of Luke was in error. The formation of the universe we can make no reasonable conclusions about we may never be able too Do you really think that the writers of the new testament wouldn't have read the old and knew what to put in ? Your saying that the Roma Gypsy tradition is true because they are persecuted ? why are you not a jew then the most persecuted according to them ? Your statement about jesus and the resurrection, the bible is true because the bible says its true ! Have you heard of a circular argument ? As for the bible no originals survive, and the oldest existing scrolls are copies that were made centuries after the books were first written. ... By the 3rd century CE, scrolls were supplanted by early bound books called codexes, and collections of biblical books began being copied as a set. the
I live with some. However not much longer hopefully. One of them is more like living with evil than a Jehovah witness. It's been a nightmare for nearly 3 years. Should be out of here by the end of this month. It's constantly praying. They want nothing to do with hearing about who the real Jesus is. I try to remember to still pray for them. Even the hateful one that screamed in my face before.
@@wemetatwawa thanks very much. I know there is one that would be very receptive to letting me show her the truth through God's word. But the mean one is around her 24 seven. It's Mom and daughter. The daughter is the mean one that takes care of the 80 year old mother. I can't get around it at all. So the only thing I've been able to do is pray.
AMEN! THIS WAS SO BEYOND INSPIRING! LETS WORK FOR OUR TRUE, HEAVENLY HARMONIC, ETERNAL, ONE AND ONLY, FIRST AND LAST, ALPHA & OMEGA OF ALL LIFE AND ALL THINGS, LOVE, AND CREATION, JESUS CHRIST LORD OF ALL LORDS KING OF ALL KINGS!! LETS PRAY FOR THE OPENING OF THEIR CONFUSED NON BORN AGAIN HEARTS!! HALLELUJAH!
I love when two servants of the Only True God Jehovah stands together for Jehovah and His Son Jesus Christ like these two spiritual sisters did. And look at how respectful they were to the gentlemen.
@@PiggyWiggyO if it's so that's bad but his testimony is worse. He was drug addict and live a very bad life. His tattoo might be from his previous life.
obviously the context of John 1 and 1 and the one word beginning has missed this mans examination....God has no beginning or end....Christ being the logos was first born and indeed had a beginning,,,Strike1 on Apologia first born and only begotten is what it means not this mans mumble mouth digression...Was is a past tense word as before he was created he was God just like a father and a Son
@@classickruzer1 They have not yet read Ezra 7:23-26 to see what the word minister in Romans 13 means... uhh... you actually have to read the scripture to get your answer
Rebekah Walker Followers of the governing body? Are you an ex witness? I wonder how you understand Paul’s admonition at HEBREWS 13:7 and 17. Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and 👉🏾imitate their faith.👈🏾 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. Who are the LEADER or perhaps THOSE TAKING THE LEAD in these text? Who was Paul, a genuine apostle of Christ, telling the Hebrews to submit to their authority? Obviously, they were spiritual men because he also encouraged them to “imitate their faith” and “consider their life” and “Have confidence” in their authority because they serve as watchmen over us to give an account. I don’t know. What you’re saying doesn’t appear to square up with effectively reading the Bible.
Pslam 118:8 Matthew 15:9 I understabd how you've read that in Hebrews for many years that's how in interpreted it but I don't think Paul wanted us to only have teaching and direction from 12 men. He also gives words and insight to many others to help guide us in his love and truth.
Thankyou dear pastor for your faith and works. Faith and works go hand in hand. You can't have faith without works or it is just dead faith. "For as the body without spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26.
Cindy Pedersen It is loving to speak the truth and confront error out of concern for the spiritual well being of another. Sadly, Jehovah’s Witnesses have a false gospel and a a false Christ.
I used to be the same way till about 2 months ago I'm 50 now and had a long journey and my testimony is long I just want to tell you that our father loves you the Lord Jesus Christ loves you if you reach out and talk to him and he will touch you there is a Heaven There is a hell I will pray for you that you make the right choice God bless you
John 3:16 , For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,that whosoever believe in him shall not perish,but have everlasting life.The new testament talks more about hell then heaven.The seriousness of accepting or rejecting Jesus is the most important decision you will make in your life.If you reject Jesus you will be separated from him for all eternity. I implore you to go to this site www.av1611.org/hell.html You have a choice to make that will decide where you spend eternity.I pray that you make the right choice.Jesus loves and wants you to be with him.What a wonderful gift he presents to us all.He died for our sins and all we have to do accept in our hearts that he is Lord and savior and admit that you are a sinner.Choose wisely !
Mr Useless - You are Useful to the Lord God and Jesus our Saviour. He can use good men to be a living testimony of His kingdom. Read the Bible every week or day for a period of time. The Bible gives answers to questions humans have on living everyday! I pray God will search your heart. He standing at the door and knock. It is up to each individual to let Him in (our heart and mind). We are all sinners. Christians acknowledge this and ask the Lord God, Creator of heavens and earth, to Forgive ours sins (thanking Jesus dying on the cross to take my sins away so we can live in heaven with our Creator and Savior.
Why does God have to be divided (Trinity) cant He be one He is a Spirit and became a man to be the Perfect sacrifice. When speaking of the Son we are speaking of the humanity of God the flesh. And when speaking of the Father we are speaking of His divinity the Spirit. God became a Man and as a man he hungered, sleep, thirst, cried ect... As Spirit (Father in creation ) Jesus walk on water, forgave sins, raised the dead, ect...
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The JW version of the Bible was supposedly transcribed from Greek. The problem is that the man who did it didn't speak, read or write Greek. That was proven in court. The Watchtower Organization goes to great lengths to prevent it's members from discovering this. Reading the Bible by yourself is frowned on. And many other tactics to stop the pursuit of truth. In short it's a cross between a publishing company and a cult. There are also well engineered financial ploys to keeping the believers in line. Plus heavy punishment for acting on one's own. Such as a strict form of shunning. This is both financial and social. Like I said, this is a cult. And the cult comes before God.
No, I want to save your soul. Please reach out to me.
Do you answer any questions people ask you from here?
HELLO PASTOR, ARE YOU ANSWERING ? OR YOU JUST COLLECT THE MONETIZATION?
I believe what the bible says. And the bible and jesus said He is the Son of God who sits at the right hand side of the Father. Jesus quoted david from book the of Psalms. The Lord said to my Lord, sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies Your footstool..
I Believe Jesus is the Son of God of the most high and He is the messiah. Just as peter answered Jesus.
It's very hard to explain Colossians 1 correctly, using the word "God". One must first understand Elohim, and then explain it, and then explain from there. Otherwise, it's a no go for many.
I can't help but point out how well reserved everyone is during their discussion. I appreciate him allowing the ladies to speak and ask questions without cutting them off and raising his voice.
Did he let them speak? When was that? And if he did let them speak… ah Isn’t that charitable of him. What a windbag!🤪
What a precious way of sharing Christ...
love how the cock couldn't stop crowing at the end preaching salvation through JC. That it was even there..... God bless y'all.
Open discussion might be the only way to help people learn to grow past their prison bars.
Why did you expect him to raise his voice ? Be gone you ass!
A dialoge without screeming and name calling, what a relief
what do you think this is ANTIFA VS BLM the fight for the 90 million donation money?
The Spirit is a Spirit of Peace!
It is possible.
@@LC-bv1gk what a strange comment.
Because they are not liberals
Wow. Very nice. I’m a Christian and my brother is a Jehovahs witness. We don’t talk to each other. Last time I tried. He turned very agresive. But I pray for him every day.
Entiendo totalmente ese sentimiento. La mitad de mi familia creen que ser Testigos de Jehová es ser pueblo de Dios, cuando en realidad son los escogidos de Dios los que son parte del pueblo... No formar parte de una religión... Nuestras discusiones son interminables, solo podemos orar por ellos. Ánimo
@@dulcejocelyn7102 Amén 🙏🏻 Amen. Gracias...! Bendiciones
Wife’s family is catholic and militant. Refuse to read the Bible. Just whatever church teaches. Constantly say we (anyone including them as non priests) are not qualified to interpret scripture.
I agree with you... But remember we do not fight against flesh and blood. His aggressiveness is not from God it's from something else. Just pray for him is all you can do. God bless!
@@bch5513 my entire family except from my brother is catholic like I used to be so I know exactly what you mean
Pastor Jeff you're an Inspiration for me! Thank you for all your work!!! For everything you Do!! God bless you.
If he's protestant, he's wrong too, sadly. This is the proof that protestantism lead to subjectivism and relativism ("my interpretation, my god").
At 6:25 the JW woman says "we're not here to step on anyone's toes or CONVERT anyone." As a born in JW for 37 years, I'd use that line on people all the time. I pray for these sweet ladies. I do pray they read Romans 3,4,5 and Hebrews 1. The Gospel of Grace...the undiluted GOOD NEWS is so healing and beautiful. (I was marked as an apostate by the JW religious leaders last year. I am shunned, but I am free. I am adopted by God now. #grace)
Bless your ❤️!!! And thank you for your testimony and for being brave to stand up for the Truth, Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior
Alexandra B I will pray for you also bro Jesus is son and lord is god Jehovah and our savior Jesus we never trust trinity dear Alex
A L for you also dear bros and sis we never trust trinity only one god that is Jehovah Yahweh Adonai and son Jesus our savior Jesus is the way to reach god Jehovah but Jesus is not a god
Amen my sister
Alexandar B what did you get disfellowshipped for?
The way you two talked with love, compassion and respect with them was nothing less than Christ like. Thank you!
@LSmoove 79 what is your rejection?
@LSmoove 79 Ok. Thank you. I question why you didn't say that to him instead of just "no."
Now, In the verse John 8:44, I agree. Satan is the father of lies.
Now comes the Deuteronomy reference. I agree there too. The Lord our God is one God. But the trinity is defined as one God with three distinct persons.
For the deity of Jesus; How do you refute Jesus' own words when he said in john 10:30, "I and the father are one."? he himself said he is one with God the father, as a single God with distinct persons. When Isaiah prophesied in Isaiah 9:6 he said the son that would be born would be called "everlasting Father, mighty God..." Jesus' name "Immanuel" means "God with us." Jesus is clearly God, and there is immeasurable amounts of scripture to prove it. (Philippians 2:5-8; is another.)
For the Holy Spirit: When peter opened his letter, he distinctly mentioned all three persons of the Godhead (1 Peter 1:1-2). hen Jesus was baptized, the Father said "this my son..." but at the same time, the Holy Spirit of God descended like a dove onto Jesus. Again, Thank you for your response.
@LSmoove 79 Again, how do respond to the exact wording of Jesus himself: "I and the father are one"?
@LSmoove 79 where did he say that? and how does that even make sense? if Jesus has the ALL of the qualities of God (Omnipotence, omniscience, ...), then how is He not God?
@LSmoove 79 yes, seperate from God yet next to him.
This was beautiful! These two men truly showing Christ's love as we're instructed to do. I really took a lot from their witnessing. I have a long way to go.
I have family members that are JW, I don't subscribe to any particular denomination, but I guarantee you I have read more of the Bible than they have, multiple times. Read the word with the holy Spirit as guidance and you will find your way
A long way to go!? I'm not even in the ballpark. Talk about discouraging! I have never even looked at the Greek translation to do battle against evil
@Sean Shaw
It’s not that far off from anyone who does a little research. However, Jeff is wrong in his explanations. For example, when he says firstborn means preeminent that is not what the original Greek meant. The Greek Proto-tokos literally means what the Bible says. Proto means first or only, as in prototype. Tokos means to bring forth or give birth to.
The “preeminent one” definition was added as an alternate definition to appease people who pushed the trinity doctrine because they needed an alternate definition in order to keep claiming what they had been saying.
The other Greek word for only-begotten is the same thing. Mono-genes. Mono meaning one or only as is monochromatic, mononucleosis, monogamous, monorail, etc. and genes, guess what, is like what it sounds like. Think about when someone says “brown eyes are in his genes”. Genes means to beget, which means to father or to bring forth. As in the King hopes to beget a son as an heir. So only-begotten literally means that Jesus was the only being directly created by God.
Proverbs 8:22-30 show that Jehovah created Jesus as the beginning of His way, and verse 30 shows that after being created, Jesus then worked alongside God as a master worker, helping create everything else.
Colossians 1:15 & 16 make perfect sense. Jesus is the image of His father, the invisible God. He is the firstborn of all creation and through him (Jesus) all things (besides himself), so, all other things, were created.
@Phenom Anon
The number of times you read is not as important as applying what you read. Or as important as accurate understanding so you can dismiss false teachings like the trinity and get to know the true God, (Deuteronomy 4:35 American Standard Version
35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that Jehovah he is God; there is none else besides him.) His purpose for the earth and mankind, what the kingdom is that Jesus taught his disciples about(Matthew 6:9-10) , what are “the last days “ (2 Timothy 3:1-5), etc.
Satan and the demons know the Bible from cover to cover. They can twist it and deceive people. I’m sure they’ve read it more than you. So, who cares who’s read it more. Do you apply what you read? Do you use the Bible to discern the truth? Do you dismiss false teachings? Do you look at the times we’re living in and realize we’re living in the last days?
Same
Talk to Jehovah W is harder than Mormon. What a blessed mind and wisdom you guys have from God
I wish the two pastors had this conversation with the Jehovas Witnesses' elders.
No matter how old the elders are, error cannot compete with Truth! ACTS 4:12
Here's just a very short list of JEHOVAH'S Witnesses "speaking what God did not command him to speak" and "what was spoken did not come true'. (Deut 18:20-22) God's Word the Bible's definition for a false prophet!
1940 - “The year 1940 is certain to be the most important year yet because Armageddon is very near.” - Informant, April 1940, p1
1941 - “Armageddon is surely near…” - Children, 1941, p.366
1941 -- "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work *in the remaining months before Armageddon,"* - Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p.288
JWs spirit directed *truth & "accurate knowledge"* 79+ years ago. *949 months!*
1942 - “Now, with Armageddon immediately before us…” - Watchtower, April 1, 1942, p.139
1946 - “The disaster of Armageddon… is at the door.” - Let God be True, 1946, p.194
1955 - “In the light of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, it is becoming clear that the war of Armageddon is nearing its breaking-out point.” - You May Survive in God’s New World, 1955, p.331
1966 - “Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed.” - Watchtower, October 15, 1966, p.629
(Luke 21:8) NIV
He replied:"Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them."
LOL, even being (supposed) spirit directed by God this is who JWs are: "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4
*Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower
@@wylolister3218 so did prince when he said "gonna party like its 1999". So what?
It was sarcastic, insincere, and disrespectful.
This is what evangelization should sound like. God bless the four of you.
That word isn't in the scriptures!
@@stardustgirl2904
Because it’s translated into English for you lol 😂
In the passage of Galations
Quoted it says, let them be cursed.
It is repeted, Paul was dealing with knostic Jews who were undermining his preaching.
One point i would make is a child recieves the Fathers
Blood.
They need the truth, because they are antichrist.
they didn't provided one single quote in which Jesus said he was God, he did said according to the Bible : I am to way to the father and the the father lives in me, who, he sent me so that whoever believes in me should receive salvation for eternal life. anything besides this it can't be found.
@@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor because 🤴 James was a Trinitarian. A version of the 🤴 James was founded in error 😳 by scholars. Added Scriptures to promote the 3inone dogma. Which later versions took out certain passages.
The followers of the Trinity follow King 🤴 James before they would even think to accept Archeological evidence.
As if their King 🤴 James is the only word of God.
When Trinitarians had the power of the beast behind them they would kill all opposers and burn their books in front of their institutions.
Now days they play nice but we still get that false remark of, 'YOU are going to die in your sins if you do not repent for our blasphemy' 😤
Talk about judging others, isn't that Jesus's job.
How do they even determine that?
They can't because it is not their right to judge.
They are not Gods, though they act as if they are. Blind hypocrites!
We all know if the beast still had their backs they wouldn't just stroll up to these witness girls to chat. Thats why they brought their camera for power as back up because they are loosing faith.
The beast is about to turn its attention on them. Saying your among the same prophets they had them destroy. Lies.
I've always admired Jeff's gentle and loving approach to witness and declare the Gospel of Jesus Christ as absolute truth.The 'Word' has always been Jesus and always will. Amen.
He was a little less condescending than he use to be.
Prov 8:22 *created
Wow! I think you guys just taught me a new trick: communication is enhanced by kindness!
being calm and kind to get a friendly response is obvious knowledge no….
Trick?🤨🤔
"Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for..." Proverbs 16:6
Honest communication is kindness.
It's a beautiful thing when people of difference can speak without getting angry.. or feeling offended..
God bless
Amen....
I think that it is wonderful when people with different views can really listen respectfully. While I agree with the male pastor, I am very, very impressed with these young women. Without the knowledge of the Greek language, the Bible can often be very difficult to understand fully. I read the Bible daily and have a college education, but it is by reading and by listening to pastors (such as these young men) that often these passages become more meaningful.
Well surprising mostly since both groups seemed indoctrinated pretty heavily . But I'd say since both believe in alot in comen . But if you ever feel a theist that God is not real . Lol well expect someone to cry and scream
@@danielgilbert6290 sorry man I don't understand what you are saying?
Wow! I was so impressed with this man's knowledge and the way they all respectfully and lovingly interacted! I learned so much. Thank you.
But you did not Think about that he is rude and hiding behind his sunglasses.
I was impressed with the girls knowledge 👏
@@Uncle_Bob-k7i that sounds like a man made religious rule
@@Uncle_Bob-k7i you right, his sunglasses were a shield to his questionable frazes.
@@Uncle_Bob-k7iso you never wear sunglasses out in public??? Specifically in Hawaii at Kealia beach?
This is how it's done--in a loving, respectful way.
Shouldn't the message be more important than the way it is done? 🤔
I just don't answer my door.
All of you are idiots
@@sidepot
What does that mean?
@@eyemnew2991
It means that both of these parties believe in fairytales and it’s ridiculous they both think they are right. You have to be an idiot to not understand that.
This is just beautiful! Well done gentlemen! This was so kind, gentle, and good.
Wow. Just the way these guys spoke with those ladies was so gentle and respectful. Praise Jesus.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@lary Snw
Jesus was flesh and bone after his resurrection
And believers get the spiritual body after resurrection
@@mitchellc4 ....and Jesus Is God.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. - John 17:22-23 .biblegateway=KJV
@@Mrhootie333
So believers are God too if they are one with Jesus and the Father??
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Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Jesus repeatedly referring to as “my God”?
Rev 3
12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
Who is Peter and Paul referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@mitchellc4 of course we are not God. "Even as we are one" God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are One.
I love the fact that you are having a calm respectful conversation about your differences...
About the truth rather much better wording their only one truth never forget that.
@@lloydhamilton6151 And how do you know that the Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the truth and Evangelical Christians do? I am certainly not trying to have an argument, but just more of an understanding. Jesus did not write The Bible.
Candace Wilson I like the fact they’re being respectful and calm to each other too. However, it’s just people arguing and debating over an invisible mythical magic man in the sky and a place you’re gonna go to when you die that we’ve got no proof exists and no reason to believe.
Candace Wilson yeah even though I without a doubt believe JW are the only true Christians
@@bskee001 You may not believe there is a God or Jesus, but I know they both exist. You will face
Them someday, and I pray They will show you Grace, when you do.
I'm an atheist, but I love hearing Jeff's preaches and sermons! I'd love to be convinced by him, he's awesome.
@Aaron Pauwels thank you for your kind message!
He speaks truth my friend. Just choose to accept Jesus. He knows you are searching. Take a step of faith.Your feelings will mislead you,telling you No! Praying for you 💕
I Pray that holy spirit will touch and convince you himself
@lary Snw it's really surprising that such questions are asked in 2021
@lary Snw ok : science and evolution,and whether you believe in it or not is irrelevant,it's a fact.
As a Christian and someone who has friends that are Jehovah's witnesses this was beautiful to watch - so respectful and all sharing truly the love of God
Agreed. As a former Jehovah’s Witness, who has moved to another level of Christianity and attends a Bible-based church, I LOVED to see to see this. We’re actually a lot more alike than these young ministers (e.g. all four of them) realize. They all portrayed the fruitages and spirit of the true God. Indeed, the identifying mark of a “true Christian.”
Jehovah's Witnesses are Unitarian Christians like the Apostles. A person who believes in the Roman Church's doctrine of the Trinity cannot call himself a Christian.
@@plc3496 "Another level of Christianity" have you joined one of the countless Trinitarian churches? Anyone who knows the Bible knows that Jesus has a God.
Hello @@ex-trinitarian5196 - "Anyone who knows the Bible KNOWS...." LOL! Glad to see you believe you have all the answers and I sincerely hope that brings you happiness and more importantly, closer to God. However, I'm not up for that type of Bible discussion and find it futile as it accomplishes nothing good.
I spent most of my life KNOWING I had "the Truth" and spent countless hours having bible discussions from door-to-door, on street corners and in homes, etc., proving that "anyone who knows the Bible KNOWS...." I no longer find the need to prove to anyone that I'm one who KNOWS the Bible. "Knowledge puffs up...but LOVE builds up...." 1Co. 8:1.
Jesus said that you will KNOW his people by the fruit they display. So, that's where my focus and joy lies . Matt. 7:15-20.
Have a great day.
@PLC
What religious group today has a worldwide brotherhood that shows that love which Jesus said would identify his people? One that is unified worldwide?
There’s only one, Jehovah’s Witnesses.
My heart rejoiced several times while watching this.
well the sound quality is so bad you have to listen 5 times
Bunch of lunatics
@@oligrassi7290 and yet you're here, your heart is seeking out God every turn but your mind chooses to be prideful and "intellectually superior" you're not gonna live forever buddy might wanna drop the act and start actually looking for answers.
This helps me so much! I always had this "danger" feeling when approaching evangelism. Thanks for showing me how great and loving sharing God's word can be!
Yes, don't we all....but we can't let The Enemy Stop us from spreading The Good News. Praise Jesus Christ for opportunities to "Declare His Glory among the heathen; His Marvelous Works among all Nations."
@@Mrhootie333 Amen!
Helps a lot of awkward males too!! How many of us had this danger feeling when approaching good looking girls. Great way to get a phone number!😀
Going to talk to some JWs tomorrow. Please pray for the softening of their hearts and salvation!
Matt Arrera PRAYING 🙏🏾
FATHER, you know exactly who Matt is going to speak with.
Prepare their hearts
Bind every false /demonic spirit
Help Matt keep in mind he is only the mouthpiece. Holy Spirit please pour your anointing on MATT
Speak through him.
Thank you for peace
Calm
Gentleness kindness show YOUR LOVE
GOOD SEED. THANK YOU, LORD!!
Can’t wait to hear the victory!!!
God bless you brother.
Pray for me to so same with the JW IN MY WORLD. THANKS BRO!
🙏🏾 AMEN 🙏🏾
Mama Jini Murphy amen!
Matt Arrera let us know how it goes. I’m praying more will come to my door soon.
Mama Jini Murphy thank you! I will be praying for you as well!
@@r0b0gam3r9 Christians believe in ONE God. While JWs believe in MORE than one God. What is Jesus ... is he the true God or a false god?
Really appreciated everyone being so open to talking AND listening! So productive!
Only the Holy Spirit can open their eyes.
These pastors did their job.
Well done, good and faithful servants!
No they didn't
@@0311kilo planting seeds is man’s job; watering the seed is God’s job :)
my reply to you sir, is that jesus said, BY THERE FRUITS U KNOW MY FOLLOWERS,also said in matthew 7:21-23, not every one say to me lord,lord did we not prophecy in your name, and expel many demons in your name, and then i say to them,GO AWAY,from me your workers of lawlesness, what about benny hinn, sir not to mention many others, are they christians too,
@@lennybaldacchino judge not lest ye be judged.
Romans said none is righteous.
There is more than one spirit being used to preach. Just because you feel the spirit doesn't make it holy. Just because you believe the spirit has opened your eyes to the truth doesn't mean you should disregard scriptures that clearly contradict your beliefs and feelings.
Everyone is afraid to say I don't know to questions these days like they should have all the answers. Nobody has all the answers but God. And he doesn't tell us everything. Only what we need to know, which is who and what to love and why we should love and when we should love. It is the greatest commandment.
We should focus more on that love than our own personal pursuits. And let go of the animosity and hatred. It says to hate what is bad, but it also says there are those who take the bad as good and the good as bad, those who take bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
We need to search hard and long before we make hasty presumptions about any other faith. Who is right and who is wrong.
Who is putting their love first? What is that love? Is it the focus of their lives? Where did they learn this love or gain this experience and wisdom for love? What is your love? Extract the rafter before you can see clearly to help others!!!
Beautiful! thank you Jeff
Makes me to go back and read the bible it’s been sitting on the shelf for a long time.
I want to understand Jeff's arguments with atheists and abortionists. Does anyone have any books or video explaining in detail?
This was so well handled. It’s not about winning or dominating the discussion. Respect.
Yea but the caption still says
Awesome: pastors vs Jehovah‘s witnesses.
Notice the VS? So the thing he said at the end about being able to talk and reason with each other?
If the channel is all about love and respect and being able to reason then you shouldn’t put Versus between two names/groups.
But I get what they are trying to do and you don’t have to love everyone to reason and talk but you do have to have respect and I don’t think he hand that considering the caption. Because he says these nice things like: being able to reason. But then he uses that caption, he’s contradicting his own words. Thanks
They are very well organized and keep their children on the straight path as much as they can understand in belief of God.
I believe that mercy is the thing that may be missing not just from them but others.
As even us sinners love eachother Jesus Christ said and I see it to be true.
I can go to a crack house and heroin house and if I need food clothing a bed the majority will give if they have it.
Just you know that they will steal from you also.
But the gospel and earth were given freely do we give them to eachother freely ?
@@brianryden363 Regardless of having chosen an imperfect title the fact that they are spending their lives trying to reach people with the love of Christ demonstrates their love for all lost people. Rather than looking for ways to find fault I wish we all had their dedication. Love you, man.
@HomoTriSapien whom do you mean?
@HomoTriSapien okay have it your way
Proverbs 15:18 says, "A hot-tempted person stirs up conflict, but the one who is patient calms the quarrel." Just valuing the Word.
Talayar Mein It also says in I Samuel 15:3 that God commands the slaughter of infant babies and children. But I’d pay you the respect to assume you don’t “value” that part of the “Word” since killing newborn babies and young children can’t ever be justified. At least I sure hope not. O_o
@@bskee001 There is a justified answer for why God commanded to kill the Amalekites. In (Exodus 17:8-16) the Amalekites attack God's Israelites. In Deuteronomy 25:18 they had no fear of God and rather to be obedient children they rebelled; and then God wage war with them because they chose death rather then God's salvation. They were an enemy of God to prove that their strength of their gods is greater than God's.
Talayar Mein Sooo God couldn’t at least spare the infant babies instead of slaughtering them?!? I mean after all, HE’S GOD!!! There wasn’t ANY other more loving and compassionate decision God could’ve made AT LEAST for the babies who had no part in attacking the Israelites?!? Really?!?
@@bskee001 "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." (Ex. 20:5-6)
@@bskee001 You see, the parents brought sin upon their children. They didn't bless their children and never the most repented of their sins. It's like Adam and Eve, even though they were innocent they disobed because they knew it was wrong to eat from the forbidden fruit, therefore they sinned and that means death.
Being Christ like is the best witnessing! God bless you two soldiers of our Heavenly Father, in Jesus holy name, amen. 🙏
So disrespecting and arguing others religions THAT BELIEVE IN THE LORD AT THAT is ok? The jehovah's witness there beliefs, isn't that what the Christian us doing? It's all a scam to get people to join your church and give tithes. Sorry not sorry
U already said this in several vids
NUTCASE
Yes it is!
ruclips.net/video/BOoMxN8Qbm0/видео.html
Great way to talk to one another. No one raised a voice. Uplifting and upbeat while also teaching and informing. Just like how you would expect to see brothers and sisters getting along
Hello Ronda
Gracias por su fidelidad, hermanos. Compartiendo el Evangelio con gracia y verdad. 🙏🏽🔥
All 4 of them did a great job in that conversation. pretty impressive.
Seos .. . celebrating apostasy in loving harmony right?
@@jeffokriya3389 No - people willing to have a conversation about the faith and willing to listen - even when it is difficult.
Pretty good start.
But if you see it as celebrating apostasy ...
@@Seosg007 . . Taze Russel was seen in Hell in great torture by a faithful witness that Jesus took there . . all those false preachers including LDS´s founder J. Smith caused great damage to God´s kingdom
@@jeffokriya3389
You've been to Hell? woooow.
@@haruyoshida2338 . . Did I say that?
This was so refreshing to watch. 4 lovely people having a conversation about such important issues.
Finally something in which Catholics don’t talk trash about jehovah witnesses
@@Mrsavage-uc5sc Catholics? - not in this vid.
@C S Wrong! Otherwise try your darnedest to prove it.
@C S Oops; I obviously struck a JW nerve ... and BTW the RCC is only the harlot mother of all of new age religions, including your JW cult. The RCC has only been formalised since 325 AD.
Dave Thawley Ok so my question is this if JW are not correct . Then what is going to be the purpose of life ? And what is going to happen when we die . Also then that means what is going to be our reason of why we are here and if god exists ? Or not
This is the best example I’ve ever seen of ‘do everything in love’ , we’ll done great example for all
Greetings! If they were truly sincere, there would have been no camera to video this for all to see. So many of us still seeking rewards from men. It's one thing to video tape a sermon, but another to video tape ourselves debating with fellow brothers and sisters. This is not the way. Jesus Christ is adamant about us being modest in prayer and giving in alms and with all things concerning spreading the Gospel. Peace and Love to you and yours! Glory and Praise be to God in the name of Jesus Christ!
No its not!!! this man got himself into this conversation by throwing christians reputations to the lions!!! Saying how these JWs are more loving and passionate than most christians!!! Unbelievingly disrespectful to all those thousands of christians through time and space that suffer and lay their lives down for their love of christ.....
@@jesusfirstto-the-pointendt4552 This channel has helped me immensely with apologetics. They record for educational purposes. They arent doing it to boast, but simply showing us how to have proper dialogue with certain groups.
@@justinhannah3722 They come in sheep's clothing. There are other ways to help you. This is the wrong way. They have tons of videos of confronting people. This is not the way. The one pastor also brags in the titles of his own videos. Jesus Christ gives us a commandment to be kind but He also gives us permission to be smart. The Holy Spirit is our teacher - not man.
@@jesusfirstto-the-pointendt4552 Nothing wrong with taping. It is a good example as a HOW TO witness. These are very humble yet BOLD young men. JW's are NOT brothers and SISTERS as they do not believe in salvation thru faith in Christ alone.
So far I seen these jehova witness be respectful and willing to hear ! I’m praying for these young woman , because of their humbleness Jesus can touch their hearts , I hope the find the true meaning of Jesus and the gospel! Thanks for this I’m learning a lot
@Mayra Garcia
What is the true meaning of Jesus and the gospel?
John 3:16 tells us that God loved the world so much that he gave His only-begotten son so that people might live. Why was that sacrifice necessary?
1 John 4:9 tells us we can gain life through God’s only-begotten son.
What life? We already have life. What did Jesus teach about? What was his gospel?
At Matthew 6:9-10 Jesus taught us things we should pray for in the model prayer. First was the sanctification of God’s name. Why would that be necessary?
Jeremiah 23:27 shows that by means of false prophets and false gods, Satan tries to get people to forget about the true God, His name and who He is.
Deuteronomy 4:35 American Standard Version
35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that Jehovah he is God; there is none else besides him.
What else was Jesus gospel about? He also taught us to pray for God’s Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth. What is that Kingdom? What is God’s will for the earth?
Daniel 2:44 tells us the time will come when God will destroy all the kingdoms (governments) of the earth amd establish His Kingdom.
Revelation 21:3-4 tells us at that time there will be no more pain or death.
Psalms 37:11 & 29 tell us the meek and righteous people will live forever in peace on earth.
Matthew 28:19-20 and Matthew 24:14 show that Jesus gospel was to spread the good news about God’s kingdom to everyone.
Who are the ones teaching about the true God, Jehovah? It’s not these pastors who are teaching a false doctrine like the trinity.
Who are the ones teaching the same gospel as Jesus, about God’s Kingdom and His purpose for the earth? It’s not these pastors who are preaching about heaven and hell who don’t even think about God’s purpose for creating the earth and mankind.
I would say these sisters are already on the narrow path Jesus talks about at Matthew 7:13-14. Most people follow what is easy and popular without doing any study on their own.
Matthew 24:36-42 Jesus tells us to keep on the watch for the sign of his presence because the time will be like the days of Noah, people won’t care and will be living life, until Armageddon comes and it will be too late for them to jump on board.
They have found the truth, u can see it through their humbleness. They walk by faith not by sight like Pentecostal do
Jeff Durbin is slowly making everyone at Apologia have his hairstyle. :)
Matt Wightman do onto your brother as you would want him to do onto you
Thats because they are following him and not Christ
Jeff Durbin is a demon!
God told me so
Edwyn O. Diaz ,and where is your proof that Jesus Christ had a wife which is completely false,where did you learn this lie,i am curious.
umm what? love you brorher. where in scripture was Jesus ever married?
This is How to preach the word of God!!! 100%....
Speak the word and let it stand for itself!!!!!
You are definitely going the wrong way. From 1 1/2 to three gods!!!! Expect a head on accident or turn around to find the one and only Allah.
The God of the Holy bible is the true living GOD.... Brother I say you find Jesus....
In the old testament there were sacrifices for the sins that you committed against the most high, God got tired of all the fake sacrifices that everyone was making because none of them truly turned people away from there sins.. oh but brother JESUS CHRIST DOES... and he became the ultimate sacrifice for all of us and our sins... he is the sacrificial LAMB.... the final sacrifice....
@@Lystra_Machuca9589
Is he a liar to you? He (Jesus) said the Only true God is the father. I don't know how you people think but something is not right with you. You will accuse Jesus of anything.
@@ultimatetruth9241 please tell me what is your truth?.. who do you say jesus is? And who does he say he is?... I never went to a church to find out who Jesus is. All I did was read my bible and it said it with the WORD... that's Gods word... what religious background are you Brother..
@@Lystra_Machuca9589
I am Muslim and I quoted you some verses from the Bible proving that Jesus had never claimed to be God. He said in John 17:3 the ONLY TRUE GOD IS THE FATHER. He does not know the hour (resurrection day). He said he cannot do anything on his own. Does that sound like god? ???? No it does not. Read the Quran and don't go to mosque. Just read it the way you read the Bible and you will see the truth. That's the only advice that I can give you. If you are sincere in searching the truth, I promise you will find it. Good luck brother. Peace
Pastor Durbin and his crew are always RESPECTFUL to JW's and preach with mildness as the bible says. They are never rude or argumentative with them. *thumbs up*
Why shouldn’t he be? As a Christian, are we not admonished by God to respect everyone, even those we disagree with?
@@fabiancortez2256 Many so called Christians on RUclips are not that way! They are confrontational with them and yell at them and not nice! There are plenty of videos on here to prove that. Pastor Durbin is not that way and I gave him credit for being a "real' Christian towards them. Have a good evening.
@@crowsandravens8998 yeah like Ruben and his band of misfits who would have talk down to those girls. this is how Jesus would of handled it
Gregory Bueschet
I disagree! I believe Jesus would have corrected those gentlemen.
But they never ask for your permission if you want to be recorded and uploads your video in YT
Outstanding dialogue. A great example of a respectable discussion. They listened more than they spoke.
Oh Gosh! How fantastic! What a great dialogue. These two gentlemen are well-versed in the Bible and have a great dialogue with the two dedicated ladies of their own faith and beliefs. Awesome!!!
They sowed the Word, now the seed needs watered and God will give the increase.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Conversation between Allah swt and Jesus Pbuh ruclips.net/video/8bnrhQn7dlk/видео.html ❤❤
Amen
Hello Judy
they sowed weeds :He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field.x 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26 When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared.
Always love the chill loving conversations between faiths.
You do know that one of them is unholy and ungodly...love (tone) or not.
JW recognize the Thorn Crown exposed at the Notre Dame fire that Napoleon placed there came from the king mention Deuteronomy 28;36. Caused Napoleon to try to do a take over of ROME.
Who are the Gods mention as representing wood and stone in this verse. King James Version
The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
@@Michael-yd9cc Who cares they are pagan gods. Whatever you want to call or name them. Imo
@@bpraise517 Thought you guys looking for the truth. You should have recognized the wood and the stone. Islam walk around the stone where is the wood.
This level of respectful interaction is so encouraging. Hearing the wind, waves, and even the rooster crowing are all signs of our beautiful Creator’s distinct ability to communicate with us. Our ability to rest in His works is so difficult at times, but praise God for His goodness.
OH MY GOODNESS. This has to be one of the most amazing and love filled dialogs I have EVER seen. Im growing and learning reformed theology more and more and realizing just how important it is to also know how to communicate a message effectively in order to do gods work, and this blew me away. Jeff, you and your friend are so loving and gentle, you can’t help but listen and be polite with your attitude. Not only do you have zeal, but you have the Bible verses and knowledge to back up every key point and it shows that you’ve put in diligent studies into knowing what JWs stand for so your prepared to counter with the Bible. Thanks again, I will continue to work on my speaking skills and knowledge of the word.
It's "God's" not "gods". Always capitalize the letter "G" in "God". Me correcting you isn't a small matter. If you truly believe in God, then give respect to Him, even in written form.
GplusGains Who is the GOD of Jesus?
Good job thank you for having a peaceful debate. It is interesting to learn what others believe. Always back the truth up with scripture. God Bless!❤️
Thank you for being respectful to them. Hopefully they’ll give this a lot of thought
Take a hint from this conversation America. Stop acting angry, come together, respect one another, and work through our issues peacefully. Arguing and insulting one another accomplishes nothing. Love this channel. God bless.
Man, that was awesome! Thanks for sharing, bless you all in the love of Christ Jesus to the glory of the Father :)
Amazing witnessing for Christ and God bless you all!!
Shame THEY are the witnesses huh
It's refreshing to see the mature respect from both ends. I like the way he said the core is to love Jesus.
True...but to love the True Jesus!
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@John Dear what are you talking about? Jehovah is the devil?? what bible are you reading?? you're wrong..there are many Christs yes only one True.
The core is full of shit that I just dumped into my toilet.
@John Dear well teach me teacher!christ of prosperity,name it and claim it,word of faith,the one that lets you live like anyone else,the genie christ, Micheal the archangel,the brother of the devil,the great prophet..and the twisted one you have sir...and its you who mentioned Jehovah is the devil..this is an open forum..you dont expect a remark after such a sick comment?come on grow up
Praise the Lord for His truth! Thank you, Apostle Jeff for being so eloquent and loving while navigating these difficult conversations. We can all learn so much from how you speak! All glory to God! I pray shalom be multiplied to you all.
I love this video, I just wish the title didn't say "VS", but rather "dialogue with" like Pastor Jeff said.
Jenice Roper
..... I agree 100%.
God bless bro.
Agreed. 27:36 It feels like a bit of a betrayal of the girls' trust according to how they stated they'd use the video.
Right. I was thinking the same thing regarding the VS part. I appreciated this particular conversation, although I do not agree with the pastor, I thought it was a very civil conversation. I saw some other video's from them, and IMO, it feels like they are blowing their own trumpet to receive praise from others.
@@toomuchtruth I agree with you there. I'm sure the women were not expecting to be featured in a "VS" video and were under the impression they were just having a friendly discussion.
Well, yes I remember a jehovah's witness deceiving me to get into my home as a new Christian. If they are tricking them that's no different than what happened to me .. they say it's an interview but use trickery. That's wrong. Just be upfront or it's basically a lie .
Yesss! This was AWESOME!!! With love and respect we can share the knowledge of the Word. Sharing it!
Just...beautiful! The power of the Gospel! God bless you guys.
My friend this is not gospel this is lies.
YOU-HAVE-BEEN-WARNED really? What is the Gospel you bring to the table?
@@shawnjaillet568 Amen glad you asked. ruclips.net/video/fliUxQSaVS8/видео.html
YOU-HAVE-BEEN-WARNED thanks for that. Salvation is by faith ALONE. There is no other requirement. This is something that when you see, you cannot un-see. The gospel of Jesus is that He died for our sins, was buried, and raised after 3 days, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE! We all still sin in the flesh. But we are imputed with righteousness because we Believe!
These are lovely JW ladies. I hope they come to know the *REAL* Christ of the Gospel that Jeff preached unto them.
This is one of the very few channels I have found of someone just having a very respectful and formal debate. Lots of knowledge and information of defending the faith and evangelism here
Very good ! The channel " Whadda you meme ?" is a good one as well ( don't be confused or weirded out by the name, just go check him out).
What a fantastic respectful conversation by both parties. Love this!
And this is how you find truth
Jw believe in abortion. Since they believe in iud contreception. They defend IUD on their jw website themselves.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 🕊❤️🕊
@@Belinda.Villas from what I understand, the org does "generally" teach that abortion is wrong. But looking at their most recent article on their website (2017) it sounds like they're not saying IUDs are bad, but just "potentially" bad. That's still deeply problematic, to be sure. But I wouldn't go as far as saying they "believe in abortion". They just don't stand against it as accurately and strongly as they should if they really believe that is is murder. Don''t get me wrong - it's a terrible and unacceptable compromise they're making. I just think it's important to be accurate in representing them.
You are not alone
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Hey There!! You two guys are great!! Continue to speak God's Truth. Bold servants for Jesus Christ.
just read more of the comments here by witnesses or go to JW.Org
Servants of Jesus? God calls Jesus his servant.
Matthew 12:18 - "Behold, this is my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased; I will put my spirit on him, and he shall declare justice to the nations."
I'm an ex JW, ex New Ager. Now Christian, one of the things that helped open my eyes about the JWs was a Bible that I found from a Christian store that was inside a mall, when I compared the Bible to that I noticed how the New World Translation had missing scriptures.
Glory be to God 😊❤
Amen
Amem
Awesome :) I love hearing about people who have come out of Mormonism or the Watchtower Another stolen sheep recovered for the body of Christ, welcome home.
@@tiffanywright6653 Your scriptures show very clearly that Jesus isn't Jehovah.
Thanks you for everything you do! You are helping me understand and appreciate the scriptures!
That was a very healthy talk. God bless y'all
they lost it at the end.. they are incorrect about obedience. So both sides are preaching a false gospel in this video. Most evangelicals make this error. They confuse old covenant works (circumcision, feasts, animal sacrifice) with obedience to Christ. Obedience Christ is not a work of the old covenant law. Christ brought us the new covenant. To be saved you absolutely must obey Christ. If you aren't obeying Christ then you haven't made him your Lord. True faith must produce the fruit of obeying/following Christ, else it's dead faith. **
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? ** Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. ** Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM. **
Well. In my personal opinion and based on my experience. You can't just throw all of the laws to Some one you are evangelizing to. It will definitely stir up a fight or push away the other person. Instead, slowly follow up with love and show them those verses when you invite them to fellowship. What's most important is a personal relationship with God. Then Holy Spirit will guide them to obedience. Sorry for my broken English
@@storma22 There are many different interpretations depending on which Christian Denomination you belong to, but I have found Jehovah's Witnesses to be one of the most accurate and well researched of them all. The most common is that of the Catholic teachings. Now during the 3rd & 4th Century C.E the Roman Emperor Constantine had converted to Christianity because he had witnessed the Sun in a Shape of a Cross and searched for answers and found Christianity to be his chosen Religion. During his reign he included his Christian faith within his Political affairs. And he and the Nicaea Council inducted many philosophical teachings including the Trinitarian Doctrine, the Cross to symbolize and promote Christianity when the bible clearly states not to use Symbols or worship Idols(Idolatry), The Sabbath being on a Sunday instead of Saturday when the Bible mentions the Sabbath being on the 7th day of the week not the 1st (Exodus 16 : 25-30). And also Hell being a fiery place of Eternal Torment, when in fact the word "hell" is derived from the Hebrew word "Sheol" which means "resting place for all mankind" to await Gods judgement, And death being the penalty for sin not hell, so as to return to dust (Romans 6 : 7)(Ecclesiastes 3 : 20). Emperor Constantine also wanted to promote Christianity to convert the people of Rome by including Pagan Holidays such as Christmas and Easter. Now you see, a lot of what has been taught around the world is the Beliefs of Constantine's Philosophies and his orders to change the System of Beliefs(Creeds) with the Nicaea Council were final, and the Bishops who opposed his beliefs had no say in it. Before Constantine's ruler-ship During the 2nd siege of Jerusalem in the 1st Century C.E, the Israelite's(Gods true Followers) fled the city before Titus and his army had arrived(Luke 21 : 20-24). And the Israelite's had with them the Original Bible Manuscripts containing Gods Name, which is the four letter Hebrew word יהוה (Tetragrammaton) "YHWH" Yahweh, or Jehovah in English. The Pharisees(Rabbis) had destroyed all other copies of the Original Bible Manuscripts, and ordered Scribes to write new ones but replacing Gods name with "LORD". For example ISAIAH 42 : 8 says "I am LORD, your GOD". LORD is not a name, it is a TITLE. Due to the Pharisees implementing the "Fence Laws" they refused to Proclaim Gods name to the nations. You see what you have learnt today is mostly the Bible beliefs of the Roman Catholics, and being that most Christians have similar beliefs to Catholics its a majority rules. True Christian Teachings is a lot deeper than you think, but whats important is to Follow the Bible Principles and apply them within our daily lives.
@@Navigator_Isle no.... and the Jehovah's witness organization is way off. Your interpretations are way off.
@@ozzydecano5876 Obedience to Christ is not "works of the law"
Absolutely LOVE this video - great way to chat, share and gently challenge. Great job, bros!
Very humble and loving Spirit you share with these young ladies.Thank for what you do . So refreshing to see the loving Spirit and truth you represent.
I just absolutely love how much love, respect, compation, and understanding that goes on during this exchange. I learned so much here. THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! Touched my heart.
Most evangelist street pastors are the complete opposite and make Christianity look absolutely terrible
This was so good you guys did this in love and truth I was raised jehovah wittiness I’ve been born again over 15 years praise be to GOD he opened my eyes keep up the good work my friends
Jesus is not God. Born again is what happens after we die and become spirit beings. We are spirit begotten.
I agree with you @Letitia Roberts
, the JWs are brainwashed by the watch tower who have taken the position of Jesus Christ.. I am glad I left the cult ..
Sohan Domingo really world 🌎 is full of cult I think you are most perfect 👌 person 😂😂
Letitia Roberts No one shows true Christianity like Jehovah’s Witnesses. No one has more love among themselves like Jesus said his true disciples would have.
@@Sirach144Jesus is God the Son. Jesus Himself tells us this. Jesus is the Great I Am.
God would be PROUD of how that conversation went. I know I was on both parties. We can know the difference, but how we react is heavenly.
Great and well done.
Expose Jehovah Witnesses false teachings
What exactly do you believe he "exposed"?
@@777Tralfaz777The shunning?
God Bless You pastor Jeff. Your love for lost people is a great motivation for me to spread my Lord’s kingdom.
Please watch Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
"By", not "through" is kjv
@@H.T.2forever the word trinity is not in the bible that is doctrine
Hi T P . You all base your beliefs on a book written by imperfect men . God you all talk about cant write nothing cos he doesnt exist . LOL .
amen
NWT John 14:6 Jesus answered. "Only through the Governing Body" can you come to the Father.
John 7:38 (NKJV) "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
God bless LGBTQ+!
His word is life. Revelation 18:2 He cried out in a powerful voice, “Fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen! She has become a home for demons. She is a prison for every unclean spirit, a prison for every unclean bird, and a prison for every unclean and hated beast.
Take notice to the fact that even John in Revelations knew what clean and unclean foods were. His words were chosen wisely here to show that every unclean thing was being imprisoned in Babylon. Notice that clean and unclean animals were separated in the beginning of the Bible (Torah) and still mentioned here at the very end of the Bible. So from the beginning to the end, they still considered things clean and unclean to eat. We would submit to you that nowhere in between was it done away with. If it was then John wouldn’t still be talking about it in Revelations.
“Always Learning”
Biblical Truth
Matthew 24:12
Verse Concepts
"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.
1 John 3:4
Verse Concepts
Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
2 Corinthians 6:14
Verse Concepts
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
Matthew 13:41
Verse Concepts
"The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
What does John 14:1 tell us? Jesus didn’t think he was God.
Hey leroy 75 where did you get the your photo from?
@@servantofthethemosthighgod4777 googled it, lord of lord king of kings
Well done to the 4 of you. No bullying, No aggressiveness, No diminishing. It was really great to watch and listen to your conversation despite differentiating on a few points but with great politeness out was engaged. Honestly. It s really great❤
As an ex Jw, now born-again, I found that one of the best, loving and respectful approaches to evangelism I have seen in some time. I witness to Jws, so this has given me some food for thought as to the approach I should take. God bless you.
Yes we must always speak The Truth in Love!!!
ExJW. Born again Christian. So thankful Christ called nit only me, but my husband and our 3 sons out of the cult. 🤴🙌
Praise The Lord
Ive been waiting for one of these,love this type of content !
Same here.
David Spencer really 🤔
Great conversation... may the Holy Spirit continue working through you always!!! God bless!!!
You can tell they don’t know much. Good evangelizing my brothers and so calm. I can use this approach. Good job!
The ALPHA and OMEGA the beginning and the end.....ALL THE GLORY TO OUR KING JESUS CHRIST MY SAVIOR AND MY GOD AND MY LORD!
ALL THE ABOVE! 👍😊❤❤❤🥰😘
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Que?
Jesus said "I was dead" (Revelation 1:8). God would never say that.
The seed has been planted!
OH, I would plant my seed in the brunette.. lovely girl.. of course, after we were married.. xx
Aubrey Shatner Any questions ask Aubrey she or he will set you straight thank you for this. It should prove to be a smack in the face to those who wish to contend with the Almighty bravo bravo bravo. I didn’t watch the whole conversation I have no need to do so since I know that these men seek human glory by making these videos and they forget that love of the world is enmity with God ! lol this should set them straight for picking on his beautiful servants again thanks Aubrey wherever you are
Aubrey Shatner Will do for sure
All we can do.. Its up to god to make it grow . we just the messengers. Praise jesus. Is lord.
Man creates a house, Man begets Man
God creates creation, God begets God.
I REALLY enjoyed this video. I love watching videos showing not only an example that you can have loving dialog with people of other faiths but also HOW to loving present the Gospel of Jesus Christ to those people (thats what I really love to see...and Pastor Jeff is great at doing that! I just found Apologia vids (the Cookie sermon was the 1st one I saw). Love how Pastor Jeff breaks it down!
Wow That was amazing,To actually stand on the love level and agree to disagree God bless you my Brother's in Christ for passing on this message of love from both sides,l am a born again Christian but l have never even thought of doing this.Our God is good indeed our Jesus is love Hallelujah 🙌🙌🙌❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's actually amazing to see such a beautiful dialogue between two very contrasting belief systems like this. I believe as the 2 gentleman do, but I had a conversation just this last summer with 2 fantastic ladies that were from the same belief system as these 2 ladies are, and they were wonderful to talk to. We may not see eye to eye on our most basic beliefs in Christ Jesus, but that doesn't mean we must hate one another, I pray for them, and all people from other walks of life, we must always remember, to love one another, as Jesus has loved us, we can either plant the seeds, or water it, but it is God who gives the increase.
The Father thinks it, the son love's it, and the Holy spirit carries it out!
All glory be to you my Lord, my I decrease, and you increase!
There are unbelievers and then there are false teachers. Guess which those two "ladies" fall into. Do not be deceived, Saints (Christians) were not commanded to love false teachers (vipers).
@City Of Charles Dirt Go ahead and make your point.
@City Of Charles Dirt What's the point of John 11:11-14 regarding this thread?
And why are you quoting the Lord from a corrupt NIV book?
@City Of Charles Dirt You're saying Christians accuse JW folks unable to hear our Lord's Words, which is true, but we hear or don't hear on the subject matter of death in the Holy Bible? If you're asking for my understanding of the scripture, once physically dead (humans) our perception is zero, like the Bible says many times in the OT and the NT.
You should quickly move away from the NIV and get yourself KJV. The NIV refers to our Lord Christ Jesus as an angel cast down from Heaven (Satan).
This was great and inspiring! The way you talk to people, with love and respect but without putting aside the Truth even though it can be uncomfortable. Thanks for showing Christ to the world, God bless you!
they lost it at the end.. they are incorrect about obedience. So both sides are preaching a false gospel in this video. Most evangelicals make this error. They confuse old covenant works (circumcision, feasts, animal sacrifice) with obedience to Christ. Obedience Christ is not a work of the old covenant law. Christ brought us the new covenant. To be saved you absolutely must obey Christ. If you aren't obeying Christ then you haven't made him your Lord. True faith must produce the fruit of obeying/following Christ, else it's dead faith. **
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? ** Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. ** Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM. **
There are many different interpretations depending on which Christian Denomination you belong to, but I have found Jehovah's Witnesses to be the most accurate and well researched of them all. The most common is that of the Catholic teachings. Now during the 3rd & 4th Century C.E the Roman Emperor Constantine had converted to Christianity because he had witnessed the Sun in a Shape of a Cross and searched for answers and found Christianity to be his chosen Religion. During his reign he included his Christian faith within his Political affairs. And he and the Nicaea Council inducted many philosophical teachings including the Trinitarian Doctrine, the Cross to symbolize and promote Christianity when the bible clearly states not to use Symbols or worship Idols(Idolatry), The Sabbath being on a Sunday instead of Saturday when the Bible mentions the Sabbath being on the 7th day of the week not the 1st (Exodus 16 : 25-30). And also Hell being a fiery place of Eternal Torment, when in fact the word "hell" is derived from the Hebrew word "Sheol" which means "resting place for all mankind" to await Gods judgement, And death being the penalty for sin not hell, so as to return to dust (Romans 6 : 7)(Ecclesiastes 3 : 20). Emperor Constantine also wanted to promote Christianity to convert the people of Rome by including Pagan Holidays such as Christmas and Easter. Now you see, a lot of what has been taught around the world is the Beliefs of Constantine's Philosophies and his orders to change the System of Beliefs(Creeds) with the Nicaea Council were final, and the Bishops who opposed his beliefs had no say in it. Before Constantine's ruler-ship During the 2nd siege of Jerusalem in the 1st Century C.E, the Israelite's(Gods true Followers) fled the city before Titus and his army had arrived(Luke 21 : 20-24). And the Israelite's had with them the Original Bible Manuscripts containing Gods Name, which is the four letter Hebrew word יהוה (Tetragrammaton) "YHWH" Yahweh, or Jehovah in English. The Pharisees(Rabbis) had destroyed all other copies of the Original Bible Manuscripts, and ordered Scribes to write new ones but replacing Gods name with "LORD". For example ISAIAH 42 : 8 says "I am LORD, your GOD". LORD is not a name, it is a TITLE. Due to the Pharisees implementing the "Fence Laws" they refused to Proclaim Gods name to the nations. You see what you have learnt today is mostly the Bible beliefs of the Roman Catholics, and being that most Christians have similar beliefs to Catholics its a majority rules. True Christian Teachings is a lot deeper than you think, but whats important is to Follow the Bible Principles and apply them within our daily lives.
@@storma22 There's a difference between obeying because Christ is your Lord and obeying because that's necessary for your salvation. Salvation comes from faith alone, not works. Works are a consequence of Jesus in your life, they do not bring nor help you achieve salvation in any way shape or form.
The Bible is clear when it says that if you believe your works have any influence in your salvation, the sacrifice of Christ have no effect on you and you must obey all the law and try achieving salvation that way. Which needless to say it's impossible because only God is sinless, only God is good.
Aloha, from Hawaii. Great conversation, and very pleasant, respectful, and kind approach. Please come to Maui and share the gospel. God bless.
Amen hello from Indiana
or just go on line @jw.org
I was baptized at 14 at the Dodgers stadium...and am so happy that I got free from that cult at 18. So happy God showed me who He is in 1986...when He sent 2 JWs to our very secluded house and was led to just read the book of John from beginning to end. Was born again by believing and knowing Jesus Christ IS LORD!! Thank you Lord!!
I was also baptized at the Dodge Stadium. I left too. We were not taught anything about Jesus only Jehovah. I have been anointed by the Holy Spirit and I am only grateful for their foundation. I study and meditate on HIS word daily. My mom is still a JW and she has never experienced the HOLY SPIRIT in her life and she's 95 years old.
I have a JW friend, beautiful spirit but generationally thick in it, door is shut, for now.
Her name is Michelle, pray for her if you can. Thank you and God bless.
James 5:16 The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
@@Anonymous-km5pj praying for all those to be freed from all cults and for them to know Jesus as their Lord and Saviour!
@@anncameron7838 amen amen, thank you, friend. Lord bless
@Ann Cameron
So at 18 you knew it all? What part of John helped you see that “Jesus is Lord”? Was it John 1:14 where we see that Jesus had a glory as that of an only-begotten son from a Father?
Or verse 18 that clearly explains that no one has seen God at any time, but the only-begotten god, Jesus, who is at the Father’s side, is the one who explained God to us?
Or is it John 2:16-18 that clearly show Jesus is God’s son, His only-begotten son?
Was it perhaps John 3:35 that tells us the Father loves the son and has given all things into his hand?
Perhaps it was John 5:19-38 where Jesus discussed being sent by his Father and doing his Father’s will?
Was it John 6:27 that tells us that the Father, God himself, puts his approval on or verses 38-40 where Jesus explains that he came down from heaven, not to do his own will, but to do the will of his Father, who sent him?
Maybe John 8:42 where Jesus said that he came from God. Or, verses 53-59 where Jesus explains that he existed in heaven before Abraham’s day and that his Father bears witness about him?
Yes, the entire book of John shows Jesus explaining over and over to the people and the Pharisees that he was sent by God, his Father, that he was here to do his Father’s will and that he came to sacrifice himself for mankind and die for our sins. Jesus is Lord, but he showed repeatedly that he is subject to His God and Father, Jehovah. (John 20:17)
What people are blind to is Jesus was not a jw, 7th day, Pentecostal, babtist etc. If people just followed the simple gospel of Christ there would be no division.
Jesus is a Jehovah's Witness. In fact he is the foremost of Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact John called Jesus "the faithful WITNESS" at Revelation 1:5. Compare Isaiah 43:10.
@@grandcherokee1407 being CALLED the "faithful witness" is NOT the same thing as a group of people, claiming THEMSELVES to be WITNESSES of Jehovah. Someone calling you a faithful witness, means they see you as a faithful witness and to your CREDIT you most likely are, BUT calling yourself a witness, is a whole different thing and brings DEBT unto yourself - instead of freedom. Completely different!
@@dussemccussay3995 Jehovah God and Jesus Christ sees us as faithful witnesses as we imitate our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Just as he was referred to as the faithful witness at Revelation 1:5 so too Jehovah identifies His faithful servants as His witnesses as shown at Isaiah 43:10. A witness of someone speaks in behalf and in favor of that individual. So JWs speak in favor of and on behalf of Jehovah God the Creator of all things that exist including Jesus. Yes! Jesus was created. As for your "group calling themselves witnesses' comment the Bible speaks of A GREAT CLOUD OF WITNESSES or as the King James Version says " so great a cloud of witnessess" according to Hebrews 12:1.
Oh I wish that I was there with these sisters to speak with these gentlemen. John 1:1 doesn't mean that Jesus is God.
Correct that he was not any of those religions. He was Jewish. And he did not bring a new doctrine, but believed and preached Torah. He was not sent to do his own will, but God’s will.
@@artbigotti2640 he was JEWISH? Since when has the JEWISH been around? I could of most certainly guessed correctly that Jesus came from the house of Judah, so he had to be a JEW. But JEW-ISH.....???? so he's SORT OF LIKE A JEW? As in if someone asks me "are you young?" And i answer "im young-ish" that would mean im similar to young, BUT NOT ACTUALLY YOUNG.
Amazing conversation...differences talking, instead of killing!
Very good video . Four totally humble people having a true love for God .
4 people who base their lives on a fiction
@Pepper Honestly ? do you really want me to rip this apart ?
No 1 the bible like most works of fiction incorporate real people
An earthquake in an earthquake zone fuck me thats convincing, just about as convincing as a prophesy of a war between 2 tribes
One half of Josephus is a proved forgery about Jesus but if we take the probably original
At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon their loyalty to him. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive. Accordingly they believed that he was the Messiah, concerning whom the Prophets have recounted wonders.
Thats it not exactly convincing THEY BELIEVED is about as good as that gets .
Now the interesting question is how DO YOU know what god put in the bible and what man did. How do you know Jesus was god and more importantly how does an immortal being die ? To forgive our sins and only dead for 3 days !
What possible reason would god just float around the world for 30 odd years after a completely unnecessary birth. Could it be that most unconvincing part of the story have been shoehorned in to fulfil yet another false prophesy ? Btw the basis for the story the census is complete bollocks !
Are the storys convincing ? Hmm pretty much every possible stance is put into the contradicting storys, basically its a method for anyone to justify anything
@Pepper From the bottom ! There is no record of a census at the required time
The Gospel of Luke uses it as the narrative means to establish the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem , but the Gospel of Matthew places the birth within the reign of Herod the Great, who had died 9 years earlier. No satisfactory explanation of the contradiction seems possible, and most critical scholars think that the Gospel of Luke was in error.
The formation of the universe we can make no reasonable conclusions about we may never be able too
Do you really think that the writers of the new testament wouldn't have read the old and knew what to put in ?
Your saying that the Roma Gypsy tradition is true because they are persecuted ? why are you not a jew then the most persecuted according to them ?
Your statement about jesus and the resurrection, the bible is true because the bible says its true ! Have you heard of a circular argument ?
As for the bible no originals survive, and the oldest existing scrolls are copies that were made centuries after the books were first written. ... By the 3rd century CE, scrolls were supplanted by early bound books called codexes, and collections of biblical books began being copied as a set.
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No. 2 people know the Truth. 2 do not love God because they do not know Him
@@BuenasNoticiasdeIL How about because there is ZERO evidence other than your delusion !
Thanks guys. Blessings Maranatha Lord Jesus
I’ve been talking to many jws lately. This is timely for me 😊❤️
I live with some. However not much longer hopefully. One of them is more like living with evil than a Jehovah witness. It's been a nightmare for nearly 3 years. Should be out of here by the end of this month. It's constantly praying. They want nothing to do with hearing about who the real Jesus is. I try to remember to still pray for them. Even the hateful one that screamed in my face before.
Rose Alexander I’m sorry you are in this situation. I pray you will be able to reflect who the really Jesus is during the rest of your time with them.
@@wemetatwawa thanks very much. I know there is one that would be very receptive to letting me show her the truth through God's word. But the mean one is around her 24 seven. It's Mom and daughter. The daughter is the mean one that takes care of the 80 year old mother. I can't get around it at all. So the only thing I've been able to do is pray.
Jwfacts.com is a great website.
@@2rific_2 thanks you. Yes I have deffenite hope.
I love when two godly men stand together for christ.
AMEN! THIS WAS SO BEYOND INSPIRING! LETS WORK FOR OUR TRUE, HEAVENLY HARMONIC, ETERNAL, ONE AND ONLY, FIRST AND LAST, ALPHA & OMEGA OF ALL LIFE AND ALL THINGS, LOVE, AND CREATION, JESUS CHRIST LORD OF ALL LORDS KING OF ALL KINGS!! LETS PRAY FOR THE OPENING OF THEIR CONFUSED NON BORN AGAIN HEARTS!! HALLELUJAH!
I love when two servants of the Only True God Jehovah stands together for Jehovah and His Son Jesus Christ like these two spiritual sisters did. And look at how respectful they were to the gentlemen.
Please watch Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze
@@PiggyWiggyO if it's so that's bad but his testimony is worse. He was drug addict and live a very bad life. His tattoo might be from his previous life.
@@kameithon1752@3.50 the video claims that Jeff got the tattoos later on in life. Jeff is a reprobate that cannot be saved.
Y'all did a good job. While they did not appear to change their minds during this encounter, nevertheless; the seeds were planted.
obviously the context of John 1 and 1 and the one word beginning has missed this mans examination....God has no beginning or end....Christ being the logos was first born and indeed had a beginning,,,Strike1 on Apologia first born and only begotten is what it means not this mans mumble mouth digression...Was is a past tense word as before he was created he was God just like a father and a Son
@@Owlmon These two haven't a clue... Nor does main stream religion.. They are CLUELESS...
@@classickruzer1 They have not yet read Ezra 7:23-26 to see what the word minister in Romans 13 means...
@@Owlmon WHAT?
@@classickruzer1 They have not yet read Ezra 7:23-26 to see what the word minister in Romans 13 means... uhh... you actually have to read the scripture to get your answer
I always talk to the JWs, and always have good conversations, with very good people.
Ex jw now Christian these guys are awesome I really appreciate the way you've demonstrated Christ's love and respect
JW’s are Christians. You can’t redefine them. All you can claim is that you both are one of many Christian denominations.
@@fabiancortez2256 can you call a cult Christian? They aren't followers of christ they are followers of the governing body.
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Followers of the governing body? Are you an ex witness? I wonder how you understand Paul’s admonition at HEBREWS 13:7 and 17.
Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and 👉🏾imitate their faith.👈🏾
Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.
Who are the LEADER or perhaps THOSE TAKING THE LEAD in these text? Who was Paul, a genuine apostle of Christ, telling the Hebrews to submit to their authority? Obviously, they were spiritual men because he also encouraged them to “imitate their faith” and “consider their life” and “Have confidence” in their authority because they serve as watchmen over us to give an account.
I don’t know. What you’re saying doesn’t appear to square up with effectively reading the Bible.
Pslam 118:8
Matthew 15:9
I understabd how you've read that in Hebrews for many years that's how in interpreted it but I don't think Paul wanted us to only have teaching and direction from 12 men. He also gives words and insight to many others to help guide us in his love and truth.
@@fabiancortez2256 following a false christ doesn't make JW Christians!
Thankyou dear pastor for your faith and works. Faith and works go hand in hand. You can't have faith without works or it is just dead faith. "For as the body without spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26.
So? Never salvation is dead
Good conversation and thank you for a good example of how to have a respectful conversation with the JWs.
Soli Deo Gloria!
They were not being respectful. These guys were basically telling these women that they are dead wrong in a "kind" and "respectful" way.
Cindy Pedersen It is loving to speak the truth and confront error out of concern for the spiritual well being of another. Sadly, Jehovah’s Witnesses have a false gospel and a a false Christ.
This is a great example of how to have a productive discussion when having opposing beliefs.
Loved every second of this video. One piece of advice brother Jeff, take your glasses off, and let them see your eyes. Lol
Great observation! It's so important to get that connection.
Though I don’t believe, it’s always nice to see people engaged in conversation amicably.
I used to be the same way till about 2 months ago I'm 50 now and had a long journey and my testimony is long I just want to tell you that our father loves you the Lord Jesus Christ loves you if you reach out and talk to him and he will touch you there is a Heaven There is a hell I will pray for you that you make the right choice God bless you
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John 3:16 , For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,that whosoever believe in him shall not perish,but have everlasting life.The new testament talks more about hell then heaven.The seriousness of accepting or rejecting Jesus is the most important decision you will make in your life.If you reject Jesus you will be separated from him for all eternity. I implore you to go to this site www.av1611.org/hell.html You have a choice to make that will decide where you spend eternity.I pray that you make the right choice.Jesus loves and wants you to be with him.What a wonderful gift he presents to us all.He died for our sins and all we have to do accept in our hearts that he is Lord and savior and admit that you are a sinner.Choose wisely !
Mr Useless - You are Useful to the Lord God and Jesus our Saviour. He can use good men to be a living testimony of His kingdom. Read the Bible every week or day for a period of time. The Bible gives answers to questions humans have on living everyday!
I pray God will search your heart. He standing at the door and knock. It is up to each individual to let Him in (our heart and mind). We are all sinners. Christians acknowledge this and ask the Lord God, Creator of heavens and earth, to Forgive ours sins (thanking Jesus dying on the cross to take my sins away so we can live in heaven with our Creator and Savior.
What a great dialogue! I’ll be praying for these ladies.
Pray for the lying pastors also... the scripture does not say that God is a Trinity
Bertrand Gloudon, are you a member of Watchtower?
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This possibly the best Video I have watched on You Tube in a long Long Time
I feel like I just went to Church :,D amen & thank you for this video! I LOVE conversation like this! ♥️
Why does God have to be divided (Trinity) cant He be one He is a Spirit and became a man to be the Perfect sacrifice.
When speaking of the Son we are speaking of the humanity of God the flesh.
And when speaking of the Father we are speaking of His divinity the Spirit. God became a Man and as a man he hungered, sleep, thirst, cried ect...
As Spirit (Father in creation )
Jesus walk on water, forgave sins, raised the dead, ect...