For those who are interested in high performance composite structures...bmw is using dry or semi-prepreg ( only for compaction and debunking reasons) The layers have some form of resin mildly applied between the layers or on the layers of carbon fiber. It is preheated and pressed and trimmed to form the preform. Then the laminate stack ( perform part) is placed in a heated RTM mold where resin is injected into the fiber areas of the mold cavity. More than likely they use a snap-cure resin. The molds are pressed together under tons of pressure to seal the mold closed and prevent any resin from escaping since the resin is injected under high pressure into the laminate. Lamborghini uses the same process RTM to make monocoque chassis for its Aventador model. Boeing is also tied into Lamborghini as they share technology and they made and patented Forged Carbon* ( Lamborghini Trade Name)
can you tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
@@paulinelambert7780 If your car came with clear coated carbon fiber just wash it normal like your car. If you wax your car you can also wax the carbon fiber. When you have it detailed thry can detail it just like exterior paint.
@@carbonfibercreationswashin7213 hi what we've seen in the video is the same thing they use for carbon parts in F1 or do they use a different type of carbon?
@@imestia7911 There are many factories making carbon fiber sheet. They look almost the same, higher quality are stronger. for F1, they use top of the line carbon fiber sheet and the strongest possible resin. Mainly the same process, just everything push to extreme, super high pressure, pre-preg carbon fiber with top resin, high heat.
If anybody wonders who is the supplier of BMW, Lamborghini and Boeing it's a company called Hexcel. They supply all prepreg and RTM components for those brands and made special formulas for most of these products to accommodate their special needs.
Anyone who has laminated Carbon by hand is gonna be super jealous about the infusion process they use here. The molds are perfect. No need for cloth, no need for vacuum, no 48 hour curing cycles, just piece goes in, resin squirted in quickly, boom piece done in perfect surface finish. That machine is a piece of Art. I'd love to have one of those at my disposal at any point in my life.
can you tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
maybe it's part of the production chain from BMW. Or a subsidiary company of BMW. If that's true, it's a very small investment by a company as big as BMW. for a developing country like the country where I live, BMW applies a completely knockdown system for every car it sells. The BMW company and dealer where I live only assembles it. Most of the parts are not produced domestically. So the investment for CFRP machines will be very worth it if they sell their products in bulk to all over the world. and of course, BMW cars in my country are selling well, at very high prices.
There is no dust to breathe in. All the particles that are sanded off are way too big and heavy to be able to float in air and for him to breathe them in. This is course sanding with a low grit sanding paper just to make the sharp edges slightly smoother.
@@derbigpr500 That is absolutely not true. Even with P60 paper, which is much coarser than what he's using, the particles are small enough to be suspended in air.
TheMidnightNarwhal Doesn’t matter. You still breathing particles that are harmful. Most of these factories use temporary workers for these kind of jobs so they don’t give a sh!t
seeing such a complex and labor-intensive process, I must say that for sure the margin profit of it must be over 50% such investment in equipment will be only justifiable by such a large profit margin per piece
Zyzz That’s not fun at all. Insurance surely totaled that car. Or maybe the fact that the roof survived avoided the car being totaled, and that’s probably worst!!
WOW, no wonder the price is soo $$$$$$, crazy the material and labor and energy cost to make that part, when a piece of aluminum can be recycled at the end if its life, every interesting video
@@AcBEntertainment people use it to be "woke" and dont even know what half the references in the game are talking about. and how they relate to modern society.
Same thing for the guy at the trimming station, whenever I cut carbon cloth with scissors I would cough a lot, I recognized it and started masking for that too
There's a lot more manual work involved with carbon fiber compounds than with other materials. I wonder whether this is due to the material itself or due to the (low) demand that doesn't justify greater automation?
Carbon fiber is definitely harder to automate than more common materials. The main reason is that it comes as a cloth, and cloth materials generally tend to behave unpredictability. As you can see from the video they are using quite complex machines even for simple material handling. They have also added some kind of binder to the material in order for it to better hold its shape, which is fine for a reasonably flat panel like this but might be challenging for more complex shapes.
Interesting video. I have to say it seems like a lot of redundant process for making such a simple part. Not meant to be negative criticism but just an observation. 2 guys in a garage with frp tooling and a decent vacuum pump could produce equal quality at much lower cost.
Curious, when the carbon fiber sheet is put into the mold is this mold heated or is it a vacuum mold where resin enters and then cures. Is a autoclave typically used for only high stress parts?
The mold is heated via oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.😊
Loved watching this process but I'm not sure about the stage were they manually lift the dry die cut and pressed carbon sheet onto a rack for it to be later placed back on a mould manually. I just feel that this stage loses its precision when being laid manually back in the mould. I'm not sure if that is the reason for those strange lines and irregularities in the carbon weave shown at 8:07. Btw I wanna make this clear, I'm knocking them as this is such a high level of quality and perfection but I just think that part of the process could be improved. This was an amazing video
that is the mold release film that has transferred from the mold to the part - was wiped with a towel in similar strokes, it's just visual, not imperfections
can someone tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
The epoxy gets yellow if left in the sun, or exposed to uv light(which exists pretty much everywhere), so I would recommend painting it, or applying a thick layer of UV resistant clear coat(would make the part heavier though)
@@paulinelambert7780 if it's too high then yes. Carbon fiber parts can generally handle around 80°c(after that they might get soft). Although if your making the carbon fiber yourselves, you can buy some high temperature epoxy like stone coats high temp epoxy(it's made for countertops, but works with CF too) to make your own part
Não se trata neste video da produção de fibra de carbono, se trata de produção de peças de compósitos reforçados com fibra de carbono! A produção de fibra de carbono seria a fabricação das próprias fibras a partir da matéria prima que é PAN ou piche!
So they put together multiple layers with some flexible plastic/glue first? Then they cut it, place on a vacuum thing then iron out the wrinkles then infuse it with resin in a heated press?
The mold is heated via an oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar approximately and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.
This is a type of thermoset resin. Short range of curing time is caused by the heat which is applied from the molds wall. Also, video is edited but part is cured about min. like a couple of hours.
Excelente video la eficiente producción y avanzada tecnología que ha caracterizado a BMW en toda su historia simplemente Grandioso!!!! 👍 Saludos desde Monterrey NL 🇲🇽
Did I miss applying resin stage? Carbom fabric on both sides od the "sandwich" was dry but suddenly it got out of machine as a solid part, so how did I miss resin infusion part?
The mold is heated via an oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar approximately and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.😊
That is impressive use of robotics to make FRP products, but also too expensive. That hood panel could have been made by hand and simple tooling for much less cost.
А почему без респираторов работают те кто режет и шлифует карбон? Карбоновая пыль очень опасна, тем более на постоянной основе. Или охрана труда на bmw не работает?
This is the future, this is how cars should be made. The problem is just the energy needed. The only answer can be nuclear. Not boiling water. We have to move on. Type 4 reactions are the only solution for more than this problem.
If you want to drive your sportscar the way it's meant to be driven and not cruising through a city and revving all the time it pays off. It lowers the center of gravity of the car because it weighs much less than an typical metal roof. Means less rolling in corners and better performance overall
@@gedeonbertram you can lower the cm in other ways using such money. Compare with sheet metal times. This is just because you see it. What sense having steel with carbon its 2 level jump so coupling is bad. Better alu and titanium.
after working in all kinds of factories for so long you realize alot of that complex look is just the modular aluminum supports, jerry rigged parts from maintenance crews, and cable management lol
I wonder how many of the people concerned with the lack of a mask (while deburring non-toxic epoxy in a clean-room) refuse to wear one themselves when in public in 2020?
It would have to be a big turd and left on for days in sun to do any real damage. If you keep your car waxed. It should penetrate the clear coat at all. And also. If it did a bit you can polish the etching out, they put allot of clear coat on cars these days. Atleast enough to remove a bird crap etching
I so much wanna start this business in India so, we can manufacture high quality carbon products at much lower cost. If someone knows** did theyu not use epoxy?? Was that first robot there just to vaccume the surface??
The carbon fibre fabric itself is made from carbonised plastic that made into carbon fibre strands. The tiny strands are made into a toe (like a yarn equivalent for cotton) . The carbon fibre toe is then woven into the fabric. The fabric is cut to shape and size, impregnated with resin and cured to make the strong carbon fibre parts.
![How to Make a Carbon Fiber Swan Neck Wing [DIY] (with 3D Printed Molds)](/img/1.gif)
I would rather watch these types of videos than the trash on TikTok.
YES
@Alfred The Alpha shut up dude nobody asked for your opinion
so did i bro
So you beat off to carbon fiber.....you are such a man 🤣🤣
Yeah, no annoying background music
For those who are interested in high performance composite structures...bmw is using dry or semi-prepreg ( only for compaction and debunking reasons) The layers have some form of resin mildly applied between the layers or on the layers of carbon fiber. It is preheated and pressed and trimmed to form the preform. Then the laminate stack ( perform part) is placed in a heated RTM mold where resin is injected into the fiber areas of the mold cavity. More than likely they use a snap-cure resin. The molds are pressed together under tons of pressure to seal the mold closed and prevent any resin from escaping since the resin is injected under high pressure into the laminate. Lamborghini uses the same process RTM to make monocoque chassis for its Aventador model. Boeing is also tied into Lamborghini as they share technology and they made and patented Forged Carbon* ( Lamborghini Trade Name)
can you tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
@@paulinelambert7780 If your car came with clear coated carbon fiber just wash it normal like your car. If you wax your car you can also wax the carbon fiber. When you have it detailed thry can detail it just like exterior paint.
@@carbonfibercreationswashin7213 hi what we've seen in the video is the same thing they use for carbon parts in F1 or do they use a different type of carbon?
@@imestia7911 There are many factories making carbon fiber sheet. They look almost the same, higher quality are stronger. for F1, they use top of the line carbon fiber sheet and the strongest possible resin. Mainly the same process, just everything push to extreme, super high pressure, pre-preg carbon fiber with top resin, high heat.
If anybody wonders who is the supplier of BMW, Lamborghini and Boeing it's a company called Hexcel. They supply all prepreg and RTM components for those brands and made special formulas for most of these products to accommodate their special needs.
Anyone who has laminated Carbon by hand is gonna be super jealous about the infusion process they use here. The molds are perfect. No need for cloth, no need for vacuum, no 48 hour curing cycles, just piece goes in, resin squirted in quickly, boom piece done in perfect surface finish. That machine is a piece of Art. I'd love to have one of those at my disposal at any point in my life.
Yeah but those molds don't come cheap and they only make sense when you produce a large quantity.
can you tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
@@paulinelambert7780 they use uv protection coat for exposed carbon parts and it protects carbon from most damage
Professional tip: Always wear a mask wile working with carbon fiber and fiberglass.
any maybe also use some kind of powered sander (or cnc) to sand those edges. Cuts down on repetitive strain injury
First guys lungs must look like 🧀
Common sense really. If something were to happen to your lungs bc you didn’t have ppe, you deserve every last bit of it. 🤷🏻♂️
@@theabyssaldemon nope. It's a prepeg carbon fiber as you can clearly see. So no loose fibers
@@peterzingler6221 8:19
I pray who ever reads this becomes successful
Thank you, as well as you.
Amen
AMEN🙏
Amiin
You cant pray for success
Good to see a budget factory making quality recyclable products, well done rich people, feck the planet there's money to be made.
cave man life style is greenest why aren't you living like one
@@sszhao11 What makes you think I'm not?
@Victor Gianan Thanks well you know what they say about people who assume.
It’s insane the amount of money on this machines to make a single roof, insane...
mass production
If you change the patterns, you can produce every parts 👍
maybe it's part of the production chain from BMW. Or a subsidiary company of BMW. If that's true, it's a very small investment by a company as big as BMW. for a developing country like the country where I live, BMW applies a completely knockdown system for every car it sells. The BMW company and dealer where I live only assembles it. Most of the parts are not produced domestically. So the investment for CFRP machines will be very worth it if they sell their products in bulk to all over the world. and of course, BMW cars in my country are selling well, at very high prices.
Mclarens operation makes this look like child’s play
@@aaronlehman9549 indeed 😆
Deutschlands beste Arbeitgeber
08:11 no dust mask? Maybe okay if you only ever do it once, but not if it’s your job
Was just gonna write that :D
he works for one of the largest car manufacturer in the world....they know better
There is no dust to breathe in. All the particles that are sanded off are way too big and heavy to be able to float in air and for him to breathe them in. This is course sanding with a low grit sanding paper just to make the sharp edges slightly smoother.
@@derbigpr500 That is absolutely not true. Even with P60 paper, which is much coarser than what he's using, the particles are small enough to be suspended in air.
@@derbigpr500 What a load of bullshit!
Lindo de ver ! Que capricho e dedicação para chegar na perfeição . Sensacional
8:16 sanding cabon fibre without mask 😱
Yes, I thought that, too!
@@clintonepps3666 I bet he is Jew
Pretty sure at that point there is clear coat over the piece so he's just removing orange peel or making it look smooth
TheMidnightNarwhal
Doesn’t matter. You still breathing particles that are harmful. Most of these factories use temporary workers for these kind of jobs so they don’t give a sh!t
this is what make BMW a legend
It's so much more interesting to watch a carbon fiber part being made by hand.. highly recommend it.
8:10.На заводе BMW люди обтачивая наждачной бумагой деталь из углепластика работают без респираторов!Не ожидал!
У них углепластик лечебный
это на самом деле ученик "ausbilder" , им в Германии всегда самую грязную работу дают.
@@tmihey123 Не " Ausbilder" а "Auszubildende"!
@@eugenflaum9380 rfrfz f ;jge hfpybwf
@@рустамМязитов-з7э уголь активированный😆
Beautiful cooperation with human and robot. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 BMW.
Ja da hab ich auch selbst gearbeitet in Landshut/Bayern i8 CFK Abteilung. Es waren ein schön Zeit...
I’m not sure what I love more the carbon fiber or all of the extruded aluminum 👍
When your roof was made by a guy wearing an early 2000s Ralf Schumacher Williams BMW F1 cap you know its legit
seeing such a complex and labor-intensive process, I must say that for sure the margin profit of it must be over 50% such investment in equipment will be only justifiable by such a large profit margin per piece
That is awesome. A hydraulic pressed cf will be more consistent than vaccum press
Perfect over-engineering
And 6 months later, you'll have your part.
Just, what I thought. In fact I think, this whole thing is a joke. It does not even look viable.
@@HeartOfGermany Your life is a joke
And all for cosmetic trim pieces?
Agree, too much structural integrity for 4 kg panels. A house keeper with an iron can do the job of that robot.
Gut gemachtes Video! Sehr Moderne Fertigung
สุดยอดจริงๆสารพัดประโยชน์มากๆ ว้าว ว้าว ว้าว
Fun fact. My friend has an e92 comp pack and it was in a hail storm. The whole car was ruined but the roof was fine haha
Zyzz
That’s not fun at all. Insurance surely totaled that car. Or maybe the fact that the roof survived avoided the car being totaled, and that’s probably worst!!
JMC Cars N More they repaired the car because you can pull out hail dents with a special tool.
It’s easier to put bondo and change body panels from others same color cars from junkyards
Cool how they mold and cut the weave before it’s even in epoxy..
That's because it is probably pre preg stuff man,google it and you'll understand
@@raulduke85 So you're Mr know it all 😂😂😂
@@brojennaorem9825 not really, it's just an idea, infact i said "probably"🤔
I don't think it is prepeg
Great vid. Thx for showing. I believe BMW owns a carbon fiber fabric factory in Washington, circa 2011. Big investment.
Not anymore
@@RChavez2061 can you give more info? I didn't find any info on them not owning the factory
Sabine Quandt is also a major share holder of SGL Carbon who in return is the supplier for BMW's carbon fiber material.
@@petkokrushev3840 SGL bought out BMWs stake in the company
@@RChavez2061 that is correct! Do have you worked for SGL?
Ive always liked this kind of camera. I feel like literally looking thru my eyes.
Amazing how amazing this Video is
WOW, no wonder the price is soo $$$$$$, crazy the material and labor and energy cost to make that part, when a piece of aluminum can be recycled at the end if its life, every interesting video
The marvel of German engineering. Bravo
Love made in Germany
AND Also love to write in english? Jajajaja
I hate Germany so much but I love there car's
@@pelcoii2905 Why do you hate it? It's one of the best countries and the most admired country in the world for the 4th time in a row.
Amazing, I hope one day I can make a carbon roof for my 180SX
That's cool but that's worth more than the whole car 😂. But i understand your love 👍
Very complex without rollcage
This is so satisfying to watch lol
Sehr gut! Ausgezeichnet!
MÜKEMMEL 💪
Amazing!
2:13 Zebra Z4M plus printer as been discontinued since 2008, LOL. Let me know and ill sell you the current model and correct DPI
this part is for BMW i3, you can watch the full video.
SEAN ZHOU he’s talking about the printer that’s called a z4m
Cool, any link on on how, first the individual carbon fiber strands are made?
God bless.
вот это подход к делу ахренеть !!! вот это уровень !!!
I know how the CPRF production is, and they are not showing even half of the steps,,, so sad
Seems that there is a layer of glasd fiber inside. What do you think?
uh. competition
@@ItsGaryy shut up you never played dues ex 1 your just using it because its part of the communist and pedophile movement.
@@AcBEntertainment no im just tired of people using the dues ex logo without having played the game
@@AcBEntertainment people use it to be "woke" and dont even know what half the references in the game are talking about. and how they relate to modern society.
The BMW car factory is the best factory in the world... Love You BMW❤️😘
Wtf
I wish their car parts last that long as your enthusiasm
They make shitty cars that break apart after a few years though.
You're all wrong , coz BMW Cars still the best 👉🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤️❤️
There is no one. This is the plant of the future.
Same thing for the guy at the trimming station, whenever I cut carbon cloth with scissors I would cough a lot, I recognized it and started masking for that too
@tufail khan With a core? fewer layers. Without a core? many more layers than you'd like. Always proof load your designs!
8:19 doing that without even a mask is a big risk for his lungs....
You can be pretty sure that they have fitting ventilation
@@peterzingler6221 doesn't matter. ANY TIME you sand carbon you wear at least an n95 if not a ventilator hood
Не риск!, А сто процентный гарантированный вред для его лёгких!
Seems like you can do it faster by hand
maybe they are doing it slower for the video... but yeah it is annoying to see robots moving so slowly when they can be blazing fast...
That's what she said
"Shouldn't the boy be wearing a mask when sanding carbon fibre?'
Pretty sure at that point there is clear coat/epoxy over the piece so he's just removing orange peel or making it look smooth
I would, but that’s just me & my lungs.
Unbelievable heath protocol fail. The other guy that collects the CF trimming cuted before the lamination don't use mask too.
Yes, it must for safety reason, but for intertainment purpose it's forbiden
that's why he ded noe :(
Sehr interessantes Video 👍🏻 danke
There's a lot more manual work involved with carbon fiber compounds than with other materials. I wonder whether this is due to the material itself or due to the (low) demand that doesn't justify greater automation?
Carbon fiber is definitely harder to automate than more common materials. The main reason is that it comes as a cloth, and cloth materials generally tend to behave unpredictability. As you can see from the video they are using quite complex machines even for simple material handling. They have also added some kind of binder to the material in order for it to better hold its shape, which is fine for a reasonably flat panel like this but might be challenging for more complex shapes.
4:58 The guy who's spraying release agent is using an N95 respirator? Shouldn't he be using organic vapor cartridges lol
correct, full respirator with dual fliter cans!! cancer dont play.😮
Would be better if you had comments to describe what’s happening
Nice carbon fiber I like it
3:23 Do you need those? Cause I do!! hahaah
I am sure they make those small accessories out of it and then sell those for hundreds of dollars.. i would love to start this business..
Faszinierende Technik. Total interessant. Da würde ich auch gern dabei sein. BMW ist top... Leichtbau finde ich wichtig...
I like it nice video
Interesting video. I have to say it seems like a lot of redundant process for making such a simple part. Not meant to be negative criticism but just an observation. 2 guys in a garage with frp tooling and a decent vacuum pump could produce equal quality at much lower cost.
Thats awesome !!!
i want to learn more about carbon fiber glass.. my skill also is tech fiber glass but, GRP, FRF and ERP..
Curious, when the carbon fiber sheet is put into the mold is this mold heated or is it a vacuum mold where resin enters and then cures. Is a autoclave typically used for only high stress parts?
The mold is heated via oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.😊
Sempre quis ver um vídeo assim. Parabéns 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Imagine how much those machines cost...
Maybe around 5 to 10 bmw its production
Loved watching this process but I'm not sure about the stage were they manually lift the dry die cut and pressed carbon sheet onto a rack for it to be later placed back on a mould manually. I just feel that this stage loses its precision when being laid manually back in the mould. I'm not sure if that is the reason for those strange lines and irregularities in the carbon weave shown at 8:07.
Btw I wanna make this clear, I'm knocking them as this is such a high level of quality and perfection but I just think that part of the process could be improved.
This was an amazing video
that is the mold release film that has transferred from the mold to the part - was wiped with a towel in similar strokes, it's just visual, not imperfections
can someone tell us how to maintain carbon fiber exterior parts on our cars (exposed to the rain, snow, UV rays, heat etc)? Does heat destroy the carbon fiber clear coat/lacquer?? Thanks.
The epoxy gets yellow if left in the sun, or exposed to uv light(which exists pretty much everywhere), so I would recommend painting it, or applying a thick layer of UV resistant clear coat(would make the part heavier though)
@@yayayayya4731 does high heat (from the hot engine) affect carbon fiber??
@@paulinelambert7780 if it's too high then yes. Carbon fiber parts can generally handle around 80°c(after that they might get soft). Although if your making the carbon fiber yourselves, you can buy some high temperature epoxy like stone coats high temp epoxy(it's made for countertops, but works with CF too) to make your own part
Guys chill the dude sanding the carbon fiber is just an intern.
Não se trata neste video da produção de fibra de carbono, se trata de produção de peças de compósitos reforçados com fibra de carbono! A produção de fibra de carbono seria a fabricação das próprias fibras a partir da matéria prima que é PAN ou piche!
So they put together multiple layers with some flexible plastic/glue first?
Then they cut it, place on a vacuum thing then iron out the wrinkles then infuse it with resin in a heated press?
Prepreg.
The mold is heated via an oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar approximately and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.
@@ieleca1790 Great info! Thanks! I was looking at different aircraft composite build method but what BMW did is really amazing.
1st time to watch this video I’m very impressed
Do they really grind CFRP without wearing masks??
You don't even Imagine how many unhealty workplaces there are...
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Big Like
Asbest 2.0… congrats!
Oooh, es würde mir so viel Spaß bereiten dort zu arbeiten !!! =)
마지막 작업자 피곤에 찌들어버린 표정ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ결론 생산직은 전세계적으로 매한가지다
이 분 채소 배우신 분ㅋㅋ
neat. seen a sensor on that machine made by the company down the street from my job. (festo)
7:51 WOW
wouldn't mind taking all the excess cut off lol
Yeah I'd like to know the offcut bins future was..
and later eat it... in a burger.. chiko person..
@@ravebrave8866 em, yeah as long as the burger was configured evenly. I’d like bun-prepreg-cheese-prepreg-cheese-prepreg-bun.
@@Tonicwine999 sweet carbon taste...
I’d imagine it gets sold to companies that produce small carbon fibre parts
정말 획기적이다
탄소로 자동차를 만드네 ㅎ
기술이 어디까지 발전할지 긍금해진다
Какие разные люди, те кто производит и те кто их разбивает(((
Помним шарабан😃🇷🇺👍
Сперва смотреть восхищаешься. А потом смотришь и думаешь, это же все делается только ради развлечения.
Ну да , от нех делать - чисто поржать решили технологию разработать, миллионы евро денег вложить , завод построить ...
Wow😮😍😎👍🏆🏆🏆🏆🥰❤️👌🥇
Mask is a must! No.1 rules is ' Safety First " .
あの再利用できない大量の切れ端見て、歩留まりの劇的な改善をしないとCFRPのコスト削減は難しいと実感した。高品質なフォージドカーボンの量産が可能になればそっちが主流になるのかな？
Which kind of matrix? PREFORM (resin + hardener) or thermoplastic? I am asking because tempered (curing) step is so fast. Thanks
This is a type of thermoset resin. Short range of curing time is caused by the heat which is applied from the molds wall. Also, video is edited but part is cured about min. like a couple of hours.
That guy sanding carbon fiber must have so much of it prickling his lungs
Pretty sure at that point there is clear coat over the piece so he's just removing orange peel or making it look smooth
@@JackRR15 in that case he's got harmful non soluble top coat smoothing out his lungs
@@itsJasCoffee Dried clear coat is safe to sand I think
Why aren't the workers at the sanding station not wearing any masked? I thought Carbon dust was worse than Asbestos?
There is a down airflow. No airborne particles in the air. They are all sucked down.
If a cfrp car burns down, then you will have the worst stuff that compares to asbestos.
Pretty sure at that point there is clear coat over the piece so he's just removing orange peel or making it look smooth
Why are there workers period? Robots are cheap compared to chimps.
c5 relampago at least you wear it how ever not 100% covered your.
Excelente video la eficiente producción y avanzada tecnología que ha caracterizado a BMW en toda su historia simplemente Grandioso!!!! 👍 Saludos desde Monterrey NL 🇲🇽
Man, I'd love to have access to the spread tow carbon fiber dumpster they showed in the video!
Did I miss applying resin stage? Carbom fabric on both sides od the "sandwich" was dry but suddenly it got out of machine as a solid part, so how did I miss resin infusion part?
Prepreg?
@@jinxtacy possible
The mold is heated via an oil or steam circuit. The resin is injected into the mold at approximately 70 or 80 bar approximately and, being a thermosetting resin, its cross-linking begins. This is my experience as I am a mold maker for this technology.😊
@@ieleca1790 thank you
That is impressive use of robotics to make FRP products, but also too expensive. That hood panel could have been made by hand and simple tooling for much less cost.
Maybe for low production amounts. A machine/robot will pump out thousands and thousands and they'll be the same every single time.
what do they do with all the waste fabric cutoff?? (damn CF is expen$ive...)
i think it goes for reciclyng
@@dumyjobby ...as chopped fiber...yes
А почему без респираторов работают те кто режет и шлифует карбон? Карбоновая пыль очень опасна, тем более на постоянной основе. Или охрана труда на bmw не работает?
This is the future, this is how cars should be made. The problem is just the energy needed. The only answer can be nuclear. Not boiling water. We have to move on. Type 4 reactions are the only solution for more than this problem.
The cost and the enviromental payload does not pay off. Stay whith metals here is reasonable
If you want to drive your sportscar the way it's meant to be driven and not cruising through a city and revving all the time it pays off. It lowers the center of gravity of the car because it weighs much less than an typical metal roof. Means less rolling in corners and better performance overall
@@gedeonbertram you can lower the cm in other ways using such money. Compare with sheet metal times. This is just because you see it. What sense having steel with carbon its 2 level jump so coupling is bad. Better alu and titanium.
What do they do with the extra pieces of carbon fiber cloth??
Usually just trash, extra little trim bits, or shred it up and put a boat load of resin in to make the forged carbon that Lamborghini is known for
fun fact. all the other BMW carbon fiber M performance parts are made in China.
that machinery looks insanely complicated
Just like a modern BMW!
after working in all kinds of factories for so long you realize alot of that complex look is just the modular aluminum supports, jerry rigged parts from maintenance crews, and cable management lol
I wonder how many of the people concerned with the lack of a mask (while deburring non-toxic epoxy in a clean-room) refuse to wear one themselves when in public in 2020?
why? is there carbon fiber shavings in the air on the streets and beach and forests?
$2,700 Carbon Fibre Roof. Destroyed by bird crap, etched.
I don’t think $2700 would cover it.
Well not here in Australia anyway
D Jaquith not to mention the f*cking cats
It would have to be a big turd and left on for days in sun to do any real damage. If you keep your car waxed. It should penetrate the clear coat at all. And also. If it did a bit you can polish the etching out, they put allot of clear coat on cars these days. Atleast enough to remove a bird crap etching
Sop Lim 2700 usd is way more than 2700 Australian dollars
Sop Lim 2700 usd in aud would be 3898
A lot missing in this video, but they learned a lot from the Corvette program.
Do u have Toray infor..?
I so much wanna start this business in India so, we can manufacture high quality carbon products at much lower cost. If someone knows** did theyu not use epoxy?? Was that first robot there just to vaccume the surface??
What plastic is carbon fiber reinforced with in this production?
The carbon fibre fabric itself is made from carbonised plastic that made into carbon fibre strands. The tiny strands are made into a toe (like a yarn equivalent for cotton) . The carbon fibre toe is then woven into the fabric. The fabric is cut to shape and size, impregnated with resin and cured to make the strong carbon fibre parts.
Thanks