I think we gonna see Zeus in some form now that Kratos has become a God who fights for good and rebuilding. I want freya to be present tho, imagine her witnessing first hand how greek gods and goddesses were to kratos.
@@Enver_445Yeah, just like the last part of the main game. I mean why the hell is the Atreus simp section in Jotenhein 2 hours long while Ragnarok, the titular event, is merely half an hour long? Isn’t that ridiculous? This game is isn’t bad, far from it, but damn did it disappoint in some areas. I’d give it a 7/10. It doesn’t deserve to be seen as a masterpiece, despite it being a really good game. Definitely the second best big release of 2022.
When it comes to Odin's soul being in Valhalla, it's probably not possible. His soul wasn't just trapped in a giant's marble, but the marble was full on *destroyed*. Odin's soul probably doesn't even *exist* anymore after Sindri smashed the marble.
Doesn’t Odin also say earlier in the game when talking to Atreus about the mask that there isnt a Valhalla for him? I’m pretty sure no Norse gods are in Valhalla, because if they were, would we have not seen Baldur during ragnarok as well? Or magni and modi (they’re demi gods so idk about those two)? I think it’s logical to assume that the DLC will be Kratos mastering himself and seeing truly if we can be the god he saw in the shrine at the end of the main story
@@kingzen6969 Yeah, it's why he was so steadfast to find answers to everything. He says that gods are looked to for guidance but can't find it themselves. And now since his soul's been destroyed, there's nothing *left* of his soul to go to valhalla. It like a Brok situation
Also Odin was motivated by the fear of not knowing what will happen to him after death. To just have him in Valhala would be underwhelming, we shouldn't know what happened.
In your Kratos analysis videos, you said one of the challenges Kratos will need to eventually face is learning how to be someone who isn't a father 24 7. With Atreus gone and off on his own adventures, Kratos may be going to Valhalla to test himself to see if he can truly be that type of person. That could justify making a rogue-like DLC for God of War in the first place. He needs to barrel through all the enemies he faced with Atreus on his own. Only when he'd completed such a task will he know within himself that he can achieve that future Fey drew out for him.
"Master Thyself" is the famous phrase inscribed upon the oracle at Delphi, within a temple of Apollo. this alongside the God of War 3 music returning in the trailer as well as Greco-Roman pillars and the cyclops are all good indicators we will be going back to Greece in some way, metaphorically or as a dream or something. Cannot wait!
The throne shown bears a resemblances to the thrones used by the council of Valkyries (Where you fought Sigrun in Midgard). It could be that the ice in Midgard is melting and this is where we enter Valhalla. Or since the Valkyries come from Valhalla maybe they have similar chairs? Though it could also be Odin's throne I figured he would have a wooden one akin to the great lodge since he like to appear unassuming.
1:00 Kratos' throne as the God of War in God of War 2 had a similar red and gold cloth draped across it. Could be drawing parallels with the office of the God of War in the Norse realm seeing as this one has been discarded, as Týr's may have been
Dude, that's giving me Doom Eternal "He is you, in their world" vibes. If that happens AND they bring back the old voice actor too I'd COMPLETELY flip!
Just before the Cyclops shows up in the original reveal/trailer, you can also briefly see Kratos fighting & killing a monstrous woman with bat-like wings (Harpies? Furies/Erinyes? Gorgons?) and a human warrior in Greek armor (likely some manner of Hoplite, maybe even a fellow Spartan) in the trailer. So yeah, it's gonna be very exciting to see & fight enemies from Kratos' homeland updated with new graphics.
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Well during the Battle in Asgard while Odin's war machines were destroying the realm gates to cut off allied reinforcements, Freya and the Shield Maidens(former Valkyries) also made an effort to cut off Valhalla from Asgard to stop the Einherjar from coming back again and again. I'm guessing it worked but Valhalla was still heavily affected by Asgard's destruction and the Shield Maidens might still be too busy with the aftermath of Ragnarok to do much about it. That and with Odin dead the "Worthy Souls" need a new purpose so maybe that's one of the reasons Kratos is there, figuring out just what to do with the place now that Ragnarok is over.
I'm actually really happy to see GoW Ragnarok got some DLC I thought it wasn't gonna get any more updates after NG+ but this seems fun and might make me come back.
Personally I think it has less to do with what happened back in Greece and more to do with Calliope, Kratos' first daughter. You got an inkling of that at the end of GoW 3 in that Pandora kind of awakened Kratos to realize what he was doing was rather brutal, even if the Greek Pantheon deserved it. "Hope is what makes us strong. It is why we are here. It's what we fight with when all else is lost." I think that phrase alone has stuck with Kratos since he first left Greece, wounds like that most lesser men would have been dead already.
2:12 my first thought about that line was that they were at the Giant's Causeway, and that this was the introduction to Celtic/Gaelic Myth. As the terrain there fits, and Mimir, who we know is canonically from Scotland, would have known its location, but not much about it. I also thought that the statue seen at 4:03 was the Mórrígan, a Celtic deity Strongly associated with War.
I love your videos dude, I absolutely love them. Even on games I haven’t even considered playing, you make all of the lore sound so intriguing and interesting. You actually put me on breath of the wild. So thank you!!
whats up bro i just wanted to say that i have a very interesting theory about the dlc. If you go back to scene in the gow ragnorak were after atreus and kratos hugging each other. And then kratos opens the shrine behind the first one that he opened. you will see people bowing down to kratos. But what if it was actually in greek. Because if you look at the giant person on the right you will see on his face a helmet that only shows an eye that can see through. And who has only a one eye in greek myth: its cyclops. so i think he will build a hole entire empire or the people there in grece will and when kratos comes everyone will know him as the god savior because he killed all greek gods. SO yeah that was my theory about the dlc
There was one example of a god getting an afterlife of sorts. I don't know if this is still canon or if it was even canon to begin with but if you beat the original God of War on the highest difficulty, you were given a phone number (which still worked last time I checked) where Kratos congratulates you and gives you a private tour of Olympus. Here it is revealed that there is a secret chamber where the soul of Ares has been imprisoned and is being tormented.
gonna say not canon anymore, though it would be amusing. this game seemed to retroactively explain why they seemed to vanish after death. mortals, while lacking power, can still retain themselves at death. immortals, like gods, titans, and likely other things, can't and lose themselves entirely. Why there is an afterlife for mortals but not immortals. they simply return.
I didn't know about a magic chair in Norse mythology. I had thought - since we were going over Kratos' past - that that chair was supposed to be what was left of his old throne from his God of War days, like an illusion of what he destroyed in Greece. The gold trim on the chair did look vaguely like it had the Greek swirls on it.
My guess is Freya is not there because she’s just not ready to set foot in Asgard again. That place ruined her life. Married to Odin in an abusive relationship, lost everything and everyone she cared about and got sealed into Midgard, and then that’s where her brother died.
It would be really cool if kratos battles himself in this mode as a true final test. As he becomes who he’s destined to be by fate, can he physically do battle with who he was to become who he’s supposed to be
@@pedromiret9195 I like what they went with over what I said. To have him verbally admit everything works better and shows off Christopher judges amazing acting abilities
Odin wouldn't be in Valhalla since his soul got destroyed but it was confirmed by Mimir in 2018 that the Asir had their own special way into Valhalla when Atreus commented that Magni didn't come back as a hell walker, so unless it's getting retcon we should see at least some of the gods down there but chances are that it's been retconned
Kratos returning to Greece would be an amazing way to add more growth to his character and a fitting end for his character in general, though the devs have to think about the future installments
This channel is a gold mine for anyone wanting to learn about the story and characters in this game. your words are so well thought out and incredibly easy to understand and I wanna thank you for that brett :)
What if his final opponent/challenge is LITTERALLY himself! Like the classic Greek era Kratos! (If it is I hope they bring back his OG voice actor for some new lines!!)
And he has the same gameplay mechanics as the Greek era games! (like jumping/double jumping!) He also gets to use ALL the weapons he used in the Greek era games!
I'm so glad this video came out so early. You were the ONLY thing I was looking forward to after watching the trailer. Please take care and your work ^ -^
May I swear to God I have been waiting all my life to know if there was going to be a God of War Ragnarok Valhalla DLC ever coming this game about to be crazy when the DLC come out
It will be "just" a Niflheim trial (God of War 2018) with Mulpelheim-like waves of enemies imo. Which is awesome, but I can't understand why not a single comment or video refers to Niflheim or Muspelheim from the last game, seems so similar to me... right??
I could totally see an epic final boss fight starting slow and as Kratos goes deeper, a cutscene plays with old God of War music. Out of the darkness we see young Kratos, rising from the burning village where the Ghost of Sparta was born. And for a cherry on top, he’s played by the goat: Terrence Carson one final time.
The first thing that came to my mind was the Godseeker Pantheon from Hollow Knight. A place where you can have fun challenging boss' you defeated before. Seeing how Valhalla is the place where all the badass' gather, who knows...
I doubt Baldur, Thor or Odin would be in Valhalla. It's stated that the only souls invited into the hall are the ones that died in battle, and those three may have fought battles, but all died outside of battle, when all three of them have been defeated (Thor even surrendered seconds before his death). Maybe Heimdall would be there, who kept fighting on even when offered a way out, or even Magni, but I doubt the other three would join them in Valhalla.
So Kratos want to Master his Pass so for his future he will be better then the mistakes of his Pass, likely fighting his biggest mistakes, in that case I think (Think meaning my Idea) the big Boss in this will be both Kratos first Family and Athena, people he never tried to kill and haunts him, likely fighting a ghostly Athena like we saw in God of War 2018 well the voices of his Family hinder and hurt Kratos Ability to fight, I think a Phantoms of Zues, Baldur, Heimdull, Ares and Deimos would also be interest though out the game.
That would be amazing really, although i would like if it was Flesh Athena haunting him or something like that haunting by crying or some shit or says to Kratos "you killed me Kratos, you killed me Kratos" same goes with his family, the visions Kratos saw about his family "No father, no" etc. that we see in gow3's visions.
I am so excited about this! GOW is my favorite video game of all time, at first for the amazing graphics and the brutal kills, and now for the depth, the emotional intelligence and the addressing of past traumas. I feel this is such a good experience to witness for those of us overcoming traumas and is a DAMN GOOD model for healing and being a badass at the same time.
I dont think I would like his next adventure to be a return to Greece. I personally like the idea that there where survivors of the cataclysm, and they are now rebuilding their civilization, free from the grasp of the gods. This is my headcanon "happy ending" for the greeks. Kratos returning to make the greeks ONCE AGAIN follow the gods would ruin this happy ending for me. If anything, I would like ATREUS to be the one going to Greece. Have him discover a side of his father he never knew, the absolute destruction his own kin, in his worst, brought to innocent people. Hell, make him learn of his half sister, Caliope, that Kratos NEVER told him about. I'll do you one better: have Caliope as a character, all grown up. She escaped the afterlife after the destruction of Hades, and returned to the surface, and had a new life. She's a god too btw, don't forget that! Oh the interactions these half siblings could have!
I just finished 2018 for the first time- it was a masterpiece. I’m halfway through ragnarok and thinking about quitting. The dialogue is so bad. They hammer the same point over and over multiple times, kratos wines constantly about war being bad yet rejects odins peace deal and starts a war while whining war bad, and everyone talks like a teenager from New York. I thought I would never get past ironwood which was so irrelevant and unimersive. They should have just had an african goddess contact atreus to set up the next pantheon if they wanted it so badly. But agrboda talks like a youtuber and the romance is so forced and out of nowhere and the area adds nothing to the story apart from marble snake. I just beat nihogg and while the fight itself was great, I ended up hating it because of how condescending freya was with constant berating ‘hints’ anytime you weren’t playing perfectly and distracting you which they do fir every puzzle or anytime you fail a block or dodge, it’s horrible. What went wrong? How is this game so much worse than 2018? Seriously, does it have different writers?
All these talks about Kratos' past. If they don't bring everything full circle and have Zeus play a role in this DLC it'll be a massive opportunity wasted. That's all I wanted from Ragnarok. They made implications to Zeus twice in 2018 and never revisited that plot-point or did anything with those moments. Zeus and the giant bird in Helheim never get mentioned again after appearing.
Odin’s soul has been destroyed… there is no afterlife of prospect of rebirth for him, he is dead and will never have an afterlife, which is what he deserves fittingly enough. Even if not for this, had he been killed by more conventional means I.e Kratos, Freya, or Atreus finish beating him to death whcih wouldn’t of been very difficult given Odin couldn’t even walk , after that beat down, or stab him ect, he still wouldn’t go to Valhalla as he existed before its creation, he even said “There’s no Valhalla for me”
Ya know, I’m kinda surprised you haven’t made an Atreus video Given how aside from Kratos, there is no other character with more to talk about in these games
one of the things that Kratos has never actually succeeded in is mastering his rage. yes he channels it into his spartan rages and lets it flow for strength in desperate times but he never lets his emotions flow properly and learn to control them. he always supresses himself, as the thing he fears most is himself. i think the best thing they could do for Kratos is for him to unleash his emotions but not be over taken by them. to let them fuel him. you cant say you have mastered yourself until you accept and use every part of yourself. and is something Kratos has never done. not entirely anyway.
Alright, joke theory time: Freya's not with him on this journey because she's pregnant, due to Freya once saying Kratos owed her a son so he gave her one.
I remember reading somewhere someone made a theory that Athena is making the Roman Empire so that in a way the Greek gods will be back and Kratos will have to face them again, but different than they were
I know you said you weren’t going to be doing another gow video for awhile, but after seeing how much story content was actually in the dlc you gotta make one about it
I hope we see his old family and his brother Deimos. Bruhhh a Zeus boss fight in the DLC would be huge
Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed
@@Enver_445 it’s not an expectation tbh it’s more of a “that’d be cool”
zeus might appear but i don't think he will be as a boss fight
I think we gonna see Zeus in some form now that Kratos has become a God who fights for good and rebuilding. I want freya to be present tho, imagine her witnessing first hand how greek gods and goddesses were to kratos.
@@Enver_445Yeah, just like the last part of the main game.
I mean why the hell is the Atreus simp section in Jotenhein 2 hours long while Ragnarok, the titular event, is merely half an hour long? Isn’t that ridiculous?
This game is isn’t bad, far from it, but damn did it disappoint in some areas. I’d give it a 7/10. It doesn’t deserve to be seen as a masterpiece, despite it being a really good game. Definitely the second best big release of 2022.
When it comes to Odin's soul being in Valhalla, it's probably not possible. His soul wasn't just trapped in a giant's marble, but the marble was full on *destroyed*. Odin's soul probably doesn't even *exist* anymore after Sindri smashed the marble.
Doesn’t Odin also say earlier in the game when talking to Atreus about the mask that there isnt a Valhalla for him? I’m pretty sure no Norse gods are in Valhalla, because if they were, would we have not seen Baldur during ragnarok as well? Or magni and modi (they’re demi gods so idk about those two)? I think it’s logical to assume that the DLC will be Kratos mastering himself and seeing truly if we can be the god he saw in the shrine at the end of the main story
@@kingzen6969 Yeah, it's why he was so steadfast to find answers to everything. He says that gods are looked to for guidance but can't find it themselves. And now since his soul's been destroyed, there's nothing *left* of his soul to go to valhalla. It like a Brok situation
Also Odin was motivated by the fear of not knowing what will happen to him after death. To just have him in Valhala would be underwhelming, we shouldn't know what happened.
in 2018 mimir said that the aesir find their own way to Valhalla
Same with Thor, he didn't die in battle. He died with a sneak attack from Odin. He's likely in Helheim.
In your Kratos analysis videos, you said one of the challenges Kratos will need to eventually face is learning how to be someone who isn't a father 24 7. With Atreus gone and off on his own adventures, Kratos may be going to Valhalla to test himself to see if he can truly be that type of person. That could justify making a rogue-like DLC for God of War in the first place. He needs to barrel through all the enemies he faced with Atreus on his own. Only when he'd completed such a task will he know within himself that he can achieve that future Fey drew out for him.
"Master Thyself" is the famous phrase inscribed upon the oracle at Delphi, within a temple of Apollo. this alongside the God of War 3 music returning in the trailer as well as Greco-Roman pillars and the cyclops are all good indicators we will be going back to Greece in some way, metaphorically or as a dream or something. Cannot wait!
It's "Vengeful Spartan" from OG God of War.
The throne shown bears a resemblances to the thrones used by the council of Valkyries (Where you fought Sigrun in Midgard). It could be that the ice in Midgard is melting and this is where we enter Valhalla. Or since the Valkyries come from Valhalla maybe they have similar chairs? Though it could also be Odin's throne I figured he would have a wooden one akin to the great lodge since he like to appear unassuming.
Right! Fimbulwinter should be finished now that Ragnarok has ended. I didn't even think about that.
I'd imagined he'd have to fight his younger self. A young angrier, and brutal Kratos from Greece
That would be an INSANE final boss for this dlc. The idea alone gets me so hyped.
Holy fuck that would be so sick if it ends up being true
In a free dlc? Do you have any idea how expensive a fight like that is? Keep your expectations low boy.
@@Spoopy_manThis game is still selling quite a bit tbf with people getting PS5's for the holidays and such
@@M15TER_Turtlee Still a fight like that wouldn't be included in a dlc
I like the idea of Valhala acting as a sort of therapy for Kratos. Mimic's comment about how "It's all part of the process" seems to reinforce it.
1:00 Kratos' throne as the God of War in God of War 2 had a similar red and gold cloth draped across it. Could be drawing parallels with the office of the God of War in the Norse realm seeing as this one has been discarded, as Týr's may have been
That's what I thought too
The final boss of this will be the hydra ridden by the boat captain.
100%
Everyone knows you fight Sonic the Hedgehog at the end.
@@mywifesboyfriend5558 nuh, it's too obvious, I think doom guy is the final boss
Obviously its sephiroth
Nah it's Makina from Fallen:~Makinaandthecityofruins
What if he faces his past self in the final dlc battle?
Ooooooo
Dude, that's giving me Doom Eternal "He is you, in their world" vibes. If that happens AND they bring back the old voice actor too I'd COMPLETELY flip!
@@UltraXan well, no matter what happens, Kraros wins
Just before the Cyclops shows up in the original reveal/trailer, you can also briefly see Kratos fighting & killing a monstrous woman with bat-like wings (Harpies? Furies/Erinyes? Gorgons?) and a human warrior in Greek armor (likely some manner of Hoplite, maybe even a fellow Spartan) in the trailer. So yeah, it's gonna be very exciting to see & fight enemies from Kratos' homeland updated with new graphics.
What??? Where? I try to rewatch it
EDIT: THere is non of that. That batlike wings is just elf and there s no Greek Armor
@@danielsmid3777 go back and watch the original trailer.
EDIT: Dang it, you're right
yeah there was character development for kratos, you NEED to talk about this.
Hey man, just to let you know, there is a guy with a channel in Spanish called "Damez Media" who has plagiarized some of your videos about God of war.
I tell you this because every time I watch one of your videos RUclips recommends me the videos he has plagiarized. 😵💫
Well during the Battle in Asgard while Odin's war machines were destroying the realm gates to cut off allied reinforcements, Freya and the Shield Maidens(former Valkyries) also made an effort to cut off Valhalla from Asgard to stop the Einherjar from coming back again and again. I'm guessing it worked but Valhalla was still heavily affected by Asgard's destruction and the Shield Maidens might still be too busy with the aftermath of Ragnarok to do much about it. That and with Odin dead the "Worthy Souls" need a new purpose so maybe that's one of the reasons Kratos is there, figuring out just what to do with the place now that Ragnarok is over.
How cool would it be if part of mastering himself and confronting his past is fighting a younger version of himself.... That would be awesome.
It’d be cool if they could get Terrance Carson to play young Kratos as well
@@Nitexshadow Indeed. Would definitely make the whole dlc worth playing weather it's good or not.
The use of Vengeful Spartan & the Cyclops cameo has me really excited for what other Greek era things they're gonna bring here.
Bro this gives material to an even more in deep essay about kratos' grow 😂
There’s 3 major things I want to see:
A confrontation with Zeus
A confrontation with a younger kratos
Bringing Thor back to the land of the living
That’d be so sick. I really wanted Thor to go on a redemption arc
high chance of no.2 happening. 1 and 3 though, probably not. but both would be awesome.
Thor needs to be properly redeemed.
I'm actually really happy to see GoW Ragnarok got some DLC I thought it wasn't gonna get any more updates after NG+ but this seems fun and might make me come back.
Who are you kidding? Your definitely going to be back 😂
@@mravens6130 right. Dude said "might" as if he wouldn't play a free dlc coming out in a few day lmaooo
Hi Brett!
The phrase "the judgement was not yours to pass" comes to mind for what kinds of lessons Kratos might learn here.
Personally I think it has less to do with what happened back in Greece and more to do with Calliope, Kratos' first daughter. You got an inkling of that at the end of GoW 3 in that Pandora kind of awakened Kratos to realize what he was doing was rather brutal, even if the Greek Pantheon deserved it. "Hope is what makes us strong. It is why we are here. It's what we fight with when all else is lost." I think that phrase alone has stuck with Kratos since he first left Greece, wounds like that most lesser men would have been dead already.
2:12 my first thought about that line was that they were at the Giant's Causeway, and that this was the introduction to Celtic/Gaelic Myth. As the terrain there fits, and Mimir, who we know is canonically from Scotland, would have known its location, but not much about it. I also thought that the statue seen at 4:03 was the Mórrígan, a Celtic deity Strongly associated with War.
I love your videos dude, I absolutely love them. Even on games I haven’t even considered playing, you make all of the lore sound so intriguing and interesting. You actually put me on breath of the wild. So thank you!!
Gotta say, DLC was absolutely amazing for a free add on. I definitely would have paid like 10 bucks for this.
whats up bro i just wanted to say that i have a very interesting theory about the dlc. If you go back to scene in the gow ragnorak were after atreus and kratos hugging each other. And then kratos opens the shrine behind the first one that he opened. you will see people bowing down to kratos. But what if it was actually in greek. Because if you look at the giant person on the right you will see on his face a helmet that only shows an eye that can see through. And who has only a one eye in greek myth: its cyclops. so i think he will build a hole entire empire or the people there in grece will and when kratos comes everyone will know him as the god savior because he killed all greek gods. SO yeah that was my theory about the dlc
I’m predicting a boss fight against young Kratos. Old Kratos confronting his younger self in combat.
100% zues will be mentioned here
I wonder if they might bring Calliope back for this, I know she’s in Elysium but still it would be interesting
You're all missing the main person we must see in Valhalla. Only one person is worthy of this trip. Worthy of the great halls.
The boat captain.
Really excited for your Valhalla or Tyr videos whenever those come
HE TURNED OUT TO BE A GOD OF HOPE!
This channel was the first thing i thought of when i saw the trailer lol
There was one example of a god getting an afterlife of sorts. I don't know if this is still canon or if it was even canon to begin with but if you beat the original God of War on the highest difficulty, you were given a phone number (which still worked last time I checked) where Kratos congratulates you and gives you a private tour of Olympus. Here it is revealed that there is a secret chamber where the soul of Ares has been imprisoned and is being tormented.
gonna say not canon anymore, though it would be amusing.
this game seemed to retroactively explain why they seemed to vanish after death. mortals, while lacking power, can still retain themselves at death. immortals, like gods, titans, and likely other things, can't and lose themselves entirely. Why there is an afterlife for mortals but not immortals. they simply return.
I hope Kratos fights the Demigure
DemiGORE
Who?
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э Demiurge. Evil creator god.
@@DrakusLuthos We were both wrong. It's "Demiurge" but I'm glad you know who he is.
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э Demiurge. Type that into wiki and go to the "Gnosticism" section and you got it.
I didn't know about a magic chair in Norse mythology. I had thought - since we were going over Kratos' past - that that chair was supposed to be what was left of his old throne from his God of War days, like an illusion of what he destroyed in Greece. The gold trim on the chair did look vaguely like it had the Greek swirls on it.
My guess is Freya is not there because she’s just not ready to set foot in Asgard again. That place ruined her life. Married to Odin in an abusive relationship, lost everything and everyone she cared about and got sealed into Midgard, and then that’s where her brother died.
Kratos' vacation
It would be really cool if kratos battles himself in this mode as a true final test. As he becomes who he’s destined to be by fate, can he physically do battle with who he was to become who he’s supposed to be
In a way, this sort of comes true...
@@pedromiret9195 I like what they went with over what I said. To have him verbally admit everything works better and shows off Christopher judges amazing acting abilities
Zeus is 100000% gonna be the final boss
If he is facing his past it would cool if you face Zeus or GOW III Kratos as a boss idk just an idea
Odin wouldn't be in Valhalla since his soul got destroyed but it was confirmed by Mimir in 2018 that the Asir had their own special way into Valhalla when Atreus commented that Magni didn't come back as a hell walker, so unless it's getting retcon we should see at least some of the gods down there but chances are that it's been retconned
Mimir also was surprised when modi and Magni didn't come back after getting killed by Kratos, so probably, gods killed by other gods die permanently
There is no way you actually called it, almost perfectly might I add. Your channel is a gift from God 😭
Dark Kratos boss fight? Les gooooo
Kratos returning to Greece would be an amazing way to add more growth to his character and a fitting end for his character in general, though the devs have to think about the future installments
This channel is a gold mine for anyone wanting to learn about the story and characters in this game. your words are so well thought out and incredibly easy to understand and I wanna thank you for that brett :)
Well brett? We await the video post valhalla. We crave lore like a bunch of relapsing crack addicts
I just binged several of your videos at work today and I loved every second of this, I’m looking forward to more, the dlc in particular
What if his final opponent/challenge is LITTERALLY himself! Like the classic Greek era Kratos! (If it is I hope they bring back his OG voice actor for some new lines!!)
And he has the same gameplay mechanics as the Greek era games! (like jumping/double jumping!) He also gets to use ALL the weapons he used in the Greek era games!
NEVERMIND! 😑
For a trailer that came out less than 24 hours ago, you did a damn good job breaking this down
I'm so glad this video came out so early. You were the ONLY thing I was looking forward to after watching the trailer. Please take care and your work ^ -^
Not my chair not my problem. The best reference ever 😂😂😂
Imagine if kratos shows up in Valhalla, there’s all of the fallen Norse gods and then just the boatman from the first game out nowhere
May I swear to God I have been waiting all my life to know if there was going to be a God of War Ragnarok Valhalla DLC ever coming this game about to be crazy when the DLC come out
I love that Kratos is accompanied by Mimir.
I hope that there,s a kratos vs kratos boss in this. old kratos vs young kratos.
Think we will end up fighting a younger version of Kratos?
Will you be doing an essay on this DLC?
He that committeth sin is of the devil 1John 3:8
It will be "just" a Niflheim trial (God of War 2018) with Mulpelheim-like waves of enemies imo. Which is awesome, but I can't understand why not a single comment or video refers to Niflheim or Muspelheim from the last game, seems so similar to me... right??
Those realms aren’t rogue like/lite
They serve a realm for challenges and realm for farming for gear
I could totally see an epic final boss fight starting slow and as Kratos goes deeper, a cutscene plays with old God of War music. Out of the darkness we see young Kratos, rising from the burning village where the Ghost of Sparta was born. And for a cherry on top, he’s played by the goat: Terrence Carson one final time.
Imagine If you have to fight a young version of Kratos
That cameras pull out game is top tier
The first thing that came to my mind was the Godseeker Pantheon from Hollow Knight. A place where you can have fun challenging boss' you defeated before. Seeing how Valhalla is the place where all the badass' gather, who knows...
I doubt Baldur, Thor or Odin would be in Valhalla. It's stated that the only souls invited into the hall are the ones that died in battle, and those three may have fought battles, but all died outside of battle, when all three of them have been defeated (Thor even surrendered seconds before his death).
Maybe Heimdall would be there, who kept fighting on even when offered a way out, or even Magni, but I doubt the other three would join them in Valhalla.
It doesn't matter. Baldur and Thor died in violence. That means there's a solid chance they have a place in Valhalla.
Would be kinda wholesome/funny if the boat captain shows up yet again but Kratos rights that wrong somehow.
So Kratos want to Master his Pass so for his future he will be better then the mistakes of his Pass, likely fighting his biggest mistakes, in that case I think (Think meaning my Idea) the big Boss in this will be both Kratos first Family and Athena, people he never tried to kill and haunts him, likely fighting a ghostly Athena like we saw in God of War 2018 well the voices of his Family hinder and hurt Kratos Ability to fight, I think a Phantoms of Zues, Baldur, Heimdull, Ares and Deimos would also be interest though out the game.
That would be amazing really, although i would like if it was Flesh Athena haunting him or something like that haunting by crying or some shit or says to Kratos "you killed me Kratos, you killed me Kratos"
same goes with his family, the visions Kratos saw about his family "No father, no" etc. that we see in gow3's visions.
I am so excited about this! GOW is my favorite video game of all time, at first for the amazing graphics and the brutal kills, and now for the depth, the emotional intelligence and the addressing of past traumas. I feel this is such a good experience to witness for those of us overcoming traumas and is a DAMN GOOD model for healing and being a badass at the same time.
I hope Athena shows up again. Want to see them interact now.
Are we going to see a canonical version of older Kratos fighting younger Kratos?!
I am so happy 😀
A young kratos boss fight would be great. A young kratos boss fight voiced by tc carson would be THE BEST
I dont think I would like his next adventure to be a return to Greece. I personally like the idea that there where survivors of the cataclysm, and they are now rebuilding their civilization, free from the grasp of the gods. This is my headcanon "happy ending" for the greeks. Kratos returning to make the greeks ONCE AGAIN follow the gods would ruin this happy ending for me.
If anything, I would like ATREUS to be the one going to Greece. Have him discover a side of his father he never knew, the absolute destruction his own kin, in his worst, brought to innocent people. Hell, make him learn of his half sister, Caliope, that Kratos NEVER told him about. I'll do you one better: have Caliope as a character, all grown up. She escaped the afterlife after the destruction of Hades, and returned to the surface, and had a new life. She's a god too btw, don't forget that!
Oh the interactions these half siblings could have!
I just finished 2018 for the first time- it was a masterpiece.
I’m halfway through ragnarok and thinking about quitting.
The dialogue is so bad. They hammer the same point over and over multiple times, kratos wines constantly about war being bad yet rejects odins peace deal and starts a war while whining war bad, and everyone talks like a teenager from New York. I thought I would never get past ironwood which was so irrelevant and unimersive. They should have just had an african goddess contact atreus to set up the next pantheon if they wanted it so badly. But agrboda talks like a youtuber and the romance is so forced and out of nowhere and the area adds nothing to the story apart from marble snake.
I just beat nihogg and while the fight itself was great, I ended up hating it because of how condescending freya was with constant berating ‘hints’ anytime you weren’t playing perfectly and distracting you which they do fir every puzzle or anytime you fail a block or dodge, it’s horrible.
What went wrong? How is this game so much worse than 2018?
Seriously, does it have different writers?
All these talks about Kratos' past. If they don't bring everything full circle and have Zeus play a role in this DLC it'll be a massive opportunity wasted. That's all I wanted from Ragnarok. They made implications to Zeus twice in 2018 and never revisited that plot-point or did anything with those moments. Zeus and the giant bird in Helheim never get mentioned again after appearing.
Imagine if we get to fight a younger, bloodlusted Kratos from the old games
Trailer had me thinking it’s gonna be a rogue/survival mode.
Really hope not, I’m not interested if it is.
If it’s more story I’m 1000% interested.
Odin’s soul has been destroyed… there is no afterlife of prospect of rebirth for him, he is dead and will never have an afterlife, which is what he deserves fittingly enough. Even if not for this, had he been killed by more conventional means I.e Kratos, Freya, or Atreus finish beating him to death whcih wouldn’t of been very difficult given Odin couldn’t even walk , after that beat down, or stab him ect, he still wouldn’t go to Valhalla as he existed before its creation, he even said “There’s no Valhalla for me”
"Not my chair not my problem"
... was that a deep cut Drinking Out of Cups reference???
I assumed the chair at the beginning was one of the Valkyrie chairs from god of war 2018. It looks identical
This aged like wine
I can't wait to play this, also your videos are great and I love learning from them
Ya know, I’m kinda surprised you haven’t made an Atreus video
Given how aside from Kratos, there is no other character with more to talk about in these games
one of the things that Kratos has never actually succeeded in is mastering his rage. yes he channels it into his spartan rages and lets it flow for strength in desperate times but he never lets his emotions flow properly and learn to control them. he always supresses himself, as the thing he fears most is himself. i think the best thing they could do for Kratos is for him to unleash his emotions but not be over taken by them. to let them fuel him. you cant say you have mastered yourself until you accept and use every part of yourself. and is something Kratos has never done. not entirely anyway.
It would be sick if the final boss was an illusion of his younger self.
Literally killing the past.
Crack pot theory but it would be cool.
Alright, joke theory time: Freya's not with him on this journey because she's pregnant, due to Freya once saying Kratos owed her a son so he gave her one.
I remember reading somewhere someone made a theory that Athena is making the Roman Empire so that in a way the Greek gods will be back and Kratos will have to face them again, but different than they were
if this is just a boss rush, it's gonna be lame af. Being a free DLC I don't expect much.
God of Therapy
I wonder if this DLC will show Kratos just how much ruin he actually brought to Greece
I thought Santa Monica Studio won't create any DLC for GOW?
Ii didn't see Freya in the trailer which makes me think something happened to Freya. Maybe the reason kratos has to go to valhalla
Perhaps there is 9 places in Valhalla, and the places is named after the nine valkyries, because the valkyries said: Valhalla awaits.
everytime i watch ur vid on gow it just makes me wanna buy the game more, except i cant cuz 70$ and gig storage issues
I know you said you weren’t going to be doing another gow video for awhile, but after seeing how much story content was actually in the dlc you gotta make one about it
You just made my whole week with that Drinkin' Outta Cups reference at 1:36
The chair is one of the chairs from the council of the valkries in midgard, hinting the dlc most likely starts in midgard
It'll be so nostalgic fighting old enemies from Greece like maybe minotaur and sirens
Soggy Chair DLC Hype!
I just want an Atreus game ngl. His gameplay segments made me disappointed that you couldnt switch to him in the endgame.
Looks like another trial battle thing. Still, free DLC so no complaints here!