So I'm working for a tile company that does things old school aka lath and mud. I told them about this system your showing. Its basically a total time saving money making machine they just feel like old school is better. But I figured if I put my paycheck on the Schluter system I won't lose money and in fact help production dubbing wish me luck. Oh I completely agree with the way you tile it's how I learned also. Sweet California frame hammer too. Keep information coming brother awesome work that tile micro fiber sponge is awesome.
Love this hack! We have been wanting a lower profile curb and think this will work for us. We will marry the curb to a pony wall though, also made of kerdi board, and are wondering what the final dimensions of the curb are? Thanks so much!
You could use any type of 1/2" backer board for this because the entire curb will be covered in waterproofing. We usually use what's most readily available but honestly prefer some type of hardi backer or cement board for the top. .
Years ago when membrane systems started showing up trained tilers would use foam(XPS) to make trays and actually belt sanded and cut them out and covered them in schluter membrane. Do you thi k one could just construct curbs out of foam and wrap them in membrane. I did it once with regular Kerdi cloth. I did it on site and found that I had to clamp the cloth on to get it to make the corners and stay adhered. What do you think?
Can you mount glass on a curb like this and how would you go about it? Although you show they are sturdy, it doesn't seem like there is much to screw into?
Thanks again for another awesome video. We do appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. I love this idea. I work with a lot of elderly, veterans, people with mobility issues. This is a nice addition for them to have a less intrusive curb. Thanks again and please keep the videos coming. “FLIP”
Dude, bad ass video! You're the man! Question: can you use go board instead of kerdi board to build out the rest of the cut curb? Also, what about using a polyurethane for the adhesive to put it together with?
Go board would be good to use to build a curb or build out the rest of the curb and something like Hydroban sealant would be good to seal and waterproof. I would band the curb though. Keep in mind that Kerdi fix is not waterproof
Omg you dont know how much this video helped ive been installing normal shower curbs with 4by4s and durock as I don't know how to use the Kerdi system and something has always been off the shower curb always seems way to big.
I cut my kerdi curb down to 2x3 as well. When I set it next to the kerdi tray. The curb isn’t 2 inches taller than the tray. When waterproofing the inside and outside corner. There won’t be a 2 inch over lap between the two corners. I have to cut a slit 1/4 inch down on the inside corner to wrap it on top of the curb. I also have to cut down the outside corner by quite a bit. Will this still be water proof ? I want my curb as low profile as possible. But I’m thinking about rebuilding the curb up by half an inch so I have that 2 inch overlap in corners. What do you think?
Do you ever Kerdi fix 3/4” plywood up in the top of the void to make shower door installation easier or do you use anchors? If so which style/brand anchor do you find works best being that it is so easy to drill tile?
what if i cut the curb length straight down from just to say the 3” or 4” in height down an inch or two will it work? and how do you go about water proofing a low profile curb is it the same procedure as a regular curb?
Nice video. I bought the Schluter shower system and got 2 curbs that are too wide for my 2x4 knee wall. I was just going to use stacked 2x4's but now I'm using the curbs they sent me. Question: what is the rough width I need for the curb after cutting? I also won't be using any Kerdi board to build it. Just the 2 sides and the top. Question 2: have you ever used one of these curbs as a foot rest instead of a corner shelf? I would appreciate a response if you would be so kind because I am about 2 weeks away from doing this. Thanks
@@LandbergTileTV thanks for quick response and the measurements. Trying to do this on a budget and not have 2 curbs left over that I have to store somewhere. Thanks again
Love the hack, thanks for helping me with understanding this system better. Initially when I put the curb in I thought WTF why such a huge curb to have to step over, glad I got to this video before the install. Big help.
If I am to wrap the curb in kerdi anyways, what is the point of using the Schlueter curb? Would a 2x4 curb wrapped in cement board not be cheaper and ever more sturdy? Not criticising. Just looking for some insight. Great videos!!
@@Relaxokay359 GabeGT said ‘if I am going to wrap the curb in Kerdi anyways’. To @GabeGT, the main point of using foam board is to save time, not necessarily material cost. But he’s showing how you can save both in this video. He made 4 curbs in way less time than a single 2x4/cement board curb.
This is just what I was looking for. I'm glad you did this video as I'm currently remodeling my bathroom myself. Just a quick question about a shower wall. I'm putting in a almost 6' long shower inche that goes across the whole wall. I have the lower wall level and plum and the upper wall. But when putting a long level from top to bottom they are out. Does the top of wall above the inche need to be plum with the bottom wall under the inche? Many thanks
Always get those cardboard shimms and flatten the wall as best as possible. You can wet shimm with kerdi as well. A six foot long niche will require proper framing or you could use a foam curb and make a 6 foot long shelf instead .
I did not even buy Schluter Curb but instead I used leftover piece from Schluter shower-base, stack 4x2 stud pieces to make up unto 4 inches and then use two pieces of from shower-base leftover and then use leftover pieces of Schluter board two sides and then use Schluter band to seal it. Tested for water proof and it passed. Make sure you to cover stack 4x2 stud with moisture protection to between the floor and stud that is used for curb.
Your work is solid when it comes to Tub surrounds & walk in surrounds with curb..... Any chance we can get video of curbless/roll in that is super custom? Again appreciate the work your doing & the extra work that it takes to put the videos together.....Keep on keeping on my friend!
Adding in the cost of the Kerdi Board and Kerdi Band seems to make this kind of a wash, especially if you consider your time worth money. That said, the original curbs need to be trimmed either way.
i would use adhesive plus pack with fiber cement then wrap it butttttttt i just buy 2"x2'x8' and make my own for bout the same price at cost i get them for $62
I walked in Floor and Decor the other day. Some of Schluter's products had the little theft prevention sensors on them. That's how you know you don't want to use them.
nice!! Wouldn't be easier to just by 2 curbs and cut in half and make 4 without buying an extra big sheet of Schluter $$$ and all the work? Just a thought. Cheers for sharing great vid and wow its durable. What do you think of Ever Built Shower kits?
The curb seems fine but how it fits in with the shower pan and being anchored to ground by thinset, liquid nail, ???? Just sketchy. Trying to reinvent the wheel, hot mop has been around forever and is solid. Started in the tile trade in 96 and got licensed in 07 and have seen 2 hot mops fail in that many years. I personally have tore out 5 schluter shower installs that have failed myself. Schluter just writes checks to homeowners showers that have failed they don’t even care, they make so much money selling that crap. Also like to float walls to get them plumb and shower pans square not just glomb some shit on a wall and throw tile on it. I guess I’m officially one of the old guys now set in my ways
@@chrispryor9721 lmao no, it's not his jobs that failed but in California it was done years ago and lots of the showers are failing that he has to go and tear them out and rebuild them using newer methods.
The must have to use with the self leveling spacers is the little tile cart that has the knee pads in it with the seat 😂 oh and you have to have celine dion on max volume while working
The old way is the only way and Better all that time I would have hade curve waterproofing and ready for mud and tile 😂what a joke u guys make me laugh
@@LandbergTileTV The ones I have replaced mostly over time had become soft. You shouldn’t step on curbs but people do. Some the bond to the floor had separated. I had called mfg on a few and was informed by all accounts it seemed to be installed correctly. I don’t make the product I just fix issues people have. Personally I don’t like any of the foam products. Curb. Bench etc. I’ll stick with solid wood. Waterproof. Deck mud. People however can use what they want or request. I just simply have redone 26 of them.
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that's a pure genius idea! thanks.
So I'm working for a tile company that does things old school aka lath and mud. I told them about this system your showing. Its basically a total time saving money making machine they just feel like old school is better. But I figured if I put my paycheck on the Schluter system I won't lose money and in fact help production dubbing wish me luck. Oh I completely agree with the way you tile it's how I learned also. Sweet California frame hammer too. Keep information coming brother awesome work that tile micro fiber sponge is awesome.
Love this idea! Question: Will your low profile curb here hold the weight of a fixed Glass shower panel (160 lbs?)
yes and thanks!
Love this hack! We have been wanting a lower profile curb and think this will work for us. We will marry the curb to a pony wall though, also made of kerdi board, and are wondering what the final dimensions of the curb are? Thanks so much!
Sounds great!
When 1/2" kerdi-board is on backorder forever though!! 😭 Excellent usage of the prefab curb, love seeing jolly on the smash demo even lol
You could use any type of 1/2" backer board for this because the entire curb will be covered in waterproofing. We usually use what's most readily available but honestly prefer some type of hardi backer or cement board for the top. .
What kind of screws did you use?
Years ago when membrane systems started showing up trained tilers would use foam(XPS) to make trays and actually belt sanded and cut them out and covered them in schluter membrane. Do you thi k one could just construct curbs out of foam and wrap them in membrane. I did it once with regular Kerdi cloth. I did it on site and found that I had to clamp the cloth on to get it to make the corners and stay adhered. What do you think?
Nice, That is absolutely great.
Can you mount glass on a curb like this and how would you go about it?
Although you show they are sturdy, it doesn't seem like there is much to screw into?
Thanks again for another awesome video. We do appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. I love this idea. I work with a lot of elderly, veterans, people with mobility issues. This is a nice addition for them to have a less intrusive curb. Thanks again and please keep the videos coming. “FLIP”
Yes sir! Short curbs are great for old folk
how much. weight can it take? 200ibs?
Dude, bad ass video! You're the man! Question: can you use go board instead of kerdi board to build out the rest of the cut curb? Also, what about using a polyurethane for the adhesive to put it together with?
Go board would be good to use to build a curb or build out the rest of the curb and something like Hydroban sealant would be good to seal and waterproof. I would band the curb though. Keep in mind that Kerdi fix is not waterproof
Omg you dont know how much this video helped ive been installing normal shower curbs with 4by4s and durock as I don't know how to use the Kerdi system and something has always been off the shower curb always seems way to big.
This is a great idea. Does anyone know if this voids the schluter warranty for the shower?
Good job on the demo at the end. Like you said nobody’s taking a shower with a toolbelt and a framing hammer that I know of!
Question. how is a panel of glass installed on the curb. They usually have a clamp that has to be screwed down into the curb.
Not into the curb. Into the (usually) stone slab curb cover only that is siliconed in place to the top of the curb.
Outstanding! Love it!
Any reason you couldn't laminate GoBoards together to make a curb? If so, would you use their adhesive or just thinset and then waterproof over top
I use 2" 2'x8' kerdi board with KERDI fix and kerdi band to build curb. The remainder 2' kerdi board is good for benches etc.
Great idea. What I like most about ur vids are that u embrace the new tiling systems and don't thing that the old way is the only way
Cool let me buy one.
Im doing it this week on this job !
Thanks'2 1/2 inch x 5ft is what I'm about to attempt hope glass door will work I'm scared hope it works
I just buy 2’ Kerdi board cut one side and fold it , this way it’s sloped properly and up to 8 feet it’s a uniform piece..
I cut my kerdi curb down to 2x3 as well. When I set it next to the kerdi tray. The curb isn’t 2 inches taller than the tray. When waterproofing the inside and outside corner. There won’t be a 2 inch over lap between the two corners. I have to cut a slit 1/4 inch down on the inside corner to wrap it on top of the curb. I also have to cut down the outside corner by quite a bit. Will this still be water proof ? I want my curb as low profile as possible. But I’m thinking about rebuilding the curb up by half an inch so I have that 2 inch overlap in corners. What do you think?
Waterproof as long as you band it. We have been doing this for years now
Do you ever Kerdi fix 3/4” plywood up in the top of the void to make shower door installation easier or do you use anchors? If so which style/brand anchor do you find works best being that it is so easy to drill tile?
We use anchors and lately we stuff the holes with wood shims (split up shims) hammered in. This allows our impact driver to bite if that makes sense.
@@LandbergTileTV do you have a brand choice that catches behind the hollow wall without boring a 3/8 or bigger hole?
The Tile Matster Jedi Mr. Landberg it is!
My question is if you narrow the curb what do you do if you want a stone or marmaline to top the curb? Won't standard sizes be too wide at that point?
You simply cut/rip down the quartz or whatever you want to install for the width.
If you really want to save time and money, buy one sheet of 2 inch kerdiboard and get 12 curbs from one sheet
what if i cut the curb length straight down from just to say the 3” or 4” in height down an inch or two will it work? and how do you go about water proofing a low profile curb is it the same procedure as a regular curb?
That will work, and yes, you band the curb like the pan etc.
Great hack... appreciate the upload!!
Do you know if this product will hold the weight of a frameless shower enclosure ?
yes it will
I like it bro..good idea..i been watching your stuff for a bit..what city are yall in..been doing tile for 20 years in Jacksonville Florida
Go Berg!
Nice way to Save/Keep/Make $$
Hey sir do you have any videos about ladders for tile? I have to do a 12 feet summer kitchen and still debating which one should i get. Thanks
Sorry, I don't.
2" kerdi board is what i like to use, ends up with a 3" tiled curb. Most customers go for it.
Nice video. I bought the Schluter shower system and got 2 curbs that are too wide for my 2x4 knee wall. I was just going to use stacked 2x4's but now I'm using the
curbs they sent me. Question: what is the rough width I need for the curb after cutting? I also won't be using any Kerdi board to build it. Just the 2 sides and
the top. Question 2: have you ever used one of these curbs as a foot rest instead of a corner shelf? I would appreciate a response if
you would be so kind because I am about 2 weeks away from doing this. Thanks
Thanks! we make our curbs rough width around 2.5 - 3"
No, we have not tried using the curbs as a foot rest
@@LandbergTileTV thanks for quick response and the measurements. Trying to do this on a budget and not have 2 curbs left over that I have to store somewhere. Thanks again
Great video 👍 really good tips and way to save some $$
Love the hack, thanks for helping me with understanding this system better. Initially when I put the curb in I thought WTF why such a huge curb to have to step over, glad I got to this video before the install. Big help.
Happy to help, tile on!
If I am to wrap the curb in kerdi anyways, what is the point of using the Schlueter curb? Would a 2x4 curb wrapped in cement board not be cheaper and ever more sturdy? Not criticising. Just looking for some insight.
Great videos!!
Exactly what I was thinking but I’d wrap the 2x4 in kerdi board
Cement board isn't water proof. You would have to coat it with red gurad or some other type of water proofing
@@Relaxokay359 GabeGT said ‘if I am going to wrap the curb in Kerdi anyways’.
To @GabeGT, the main point of using foam board is to save time, not necessarily material cost. But he’s showing how you can save both in this video. He made 4 curbs in way less time than a single 2x4/cement board curb.
@@markoshun idk. Think it'd be just as quick
@@jeffsingleton88 Ok, but he did 4 in an 8 minute video.. Even without the magic of editing it wouldn’t take me long to do either.
Grasias brother you're good 👍..
Awesome video!
This is just what I was looking for. I'm glad you did this video as I'm currently remodeling my bathroom myself. Just a quick question about a shower wall. I'm putting in a almost 6' long shower inche that goes across the whole wall. I have the lower wall level and plum and the upper wall. But when putting a long level from top to bottom they are out. Does the top of wall above the inche need to be plum with the bottom wall under the inche? Many thanks
Always get those cardboard shimms and flatten the wall as best as possible. You can wet shimm with kerdi as well. A six foot long niche will require proper framing or you could use a foam curb and make a 6 foot long shelf instead .
@@Trucker-Belly cardboard shims? I'm not sure what that is
@@Relaxokay359 furring strips from home depot.
Wet shim (thinset)
@@Relaxokay359 they are called sheetrock shimms. Did you ever finish the shower project?
Is a curb made of packing peanuts really better than a slab of wood?
We've installed over 100 with no problems whatsoever.
I did not even buy Schluter Curb but instead I used leftover piece from Schluter shower-base, stack 4x2 stud pieces to make up unto 4 inches and then use two pieces of from shower-base leftover and then use leftover pieces of Schluter board two sides and then use Schluter band to seal it.
Tested for water proof and it passed.
Make sure you to cover stack 4x2 stud with moisture protection to between the floor and stud that is used for curb.
Why not 2x4 base wrapped in the membrane?
thinking the same thing.... wondering how do they attach the shower doors too the foam???? longer screws to reach the subfloor?
@@throlyhd9448 probably anchors
Where do you buy the those caps that you use for the top of your curbs?
Lowes big box stores stocks white, beige and gray usually.
@@LandbergTileTV Thanks!
Thanks
My favorite way is the 2” Kerdi board stacked! Too bad you can’t get it still!
Thank you sir
Your work is solid when it comes to Tub surrounds & walk in surrounds with curb..... Any chance we can get video of curbless/roll in that is super custom? Again appreciate the work your doing & the extra work that it takes to put the videos together.....Keep on keeping on my friend!
Can you do the opposite and double the height?
Yes you can
Wow, do you have a lot of skills! And how do you install the curb on the floor? with Kerdi fix?
Thinset
kick ass
Adding in the cost of the Kerdi Board and Kerdi Band seems to make this kind of a wash, especially if you consider your time worth money. That said, the original curbs need to be trimmed either way.
So really you're using the schlueter curbs solely for the foam cubes inside? Maybe just use some pressure treated blocks?
Woods not stable...
@@nailbndr9869 gotcha
i would use adhesive plus pack with fiber cement then wrap it butttttttt i just buy 2"x2'x8' and make my own for bout the same price at cost i get them for $62
I walked in Floor and Decor the other day. Some of Schluter's products had the little theft prevention sensors on them. That's how you know you don't want to use them.
not sure what you are trying to say
@@LandbergTileTV the items are too precious for something that is invisibile.
nice!! Wouldn't be easier to just by 2 curbs and cut in half and make 4 without buying an extra big sheet of Schluter $$$ and all the work? Just a thought. Cheers for sharing great vid and wow its durable.
What do you think of Ever Built Shower kits?
'Nobody goes into a shower with a toolbelt' HEH, speak for yourself bro! Nice video!!
Lol
I usually just sqeeze them with my hand and my fingers usually break the tile. Then the. soft foam breaks apart. Why i use concrete
lol, the foam in the curb is so dense you couldn't even bite a piece out with your teeth
The curb seems fine but how it fits in with the shower pan and being anchored to ground by thinset, liquid nail, ???? Just sketchy. Trying to reinvent the wheel, hot mop has been around forever and is solid. Started in the tile trade in 96 and got licensed in 07 and have seen 2 hot mops fail in that many years. I personally have tore out 5 schluter shower installs that have failed myself. Schluter just writes checks to homeowners showers that have failed they don’t even care, they make so much money selling that crap. Also like to float walls to get them plumb and shower pans square not just glomb some shit on a wall and throw tile on it. I guess I’m officially one of the old guys now set in my ways
@@chrispryor9721 go watch 'Tile Coach" on how many hot mop showers he has failed videos on.
@@MV-wb2cz sounds like coach needs a new
Hot mop guy
@@chrispryor9721 lmao no, it's not his jobs that failed but in California it was done years ago and lots of the showers are failing that he has to go and tear them out and rebuild them using newer methods.
Just use some Kerti board and cover 2x4's or blocks of Styrofoam.
All that work I use cement block or brick short and not wide stronger and waterproof
Why not use a table saw?
Great idea if you have one
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Just buy 2” kerdi board and kerdi fix it together. You can then make 4-6 solid curbs. Great video but a lot of extra steps.
2" rigid insulation board?
Kerdi board panels
I guess I'm old school. 2x4's, liner, Hardy board, redgard.
different strokes for different folks
Who ever disliked this probably the ones still hating on self leveling spacers 😭😂 awesome video 😎
Can't teach old dogs new tricks I guess. Different strokes for different folks. Foam is the future and it is what it is.
The must have to use with the self leveling spacers is the little tile cart that has the knee pads in it with the seat 😂 oh and you have to have celine dion on max volume while working
We don’t have a table saw? Huh? Builders have a table saw
Should drive your truck over one…no one enters a shower with a truck
Lol
I used goboard sealant to glue my curb to the plywood subfloor before realizing I was supposed to use mud. Am I going to Hell?
Use 2 inch kerdi board
Schluter boards much more expensive compare with hardie backer cement boards
You can't get Schluter boards anymore
Either 2 inch kerdi board or bricks from home depot a buck with change a piece. Schluter kerdi board or membrane is garbage compare to laticrete imho
Just float it
Kbrs curbs/system are better. Interesting system though.
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The old way is the only way and Better all that time I would have hade curve waterproofing and ready for mud and tile 😂what a joke u guys make me laugh
You should get on that new show called naked and afraid of love :)
Should have drove your truck over it to help with one perception!!!!
lol
none of this makes sense, just wrap some 2x material cut to size withe kerdi, and done
that also works
Seems like a waste of money.
Those curbs SUCK. Over last 3 years I have replaced 26 of them. Not my work.
lol replaced 26 Schluter curbs?
@@LandbergTileTV
Funny or not. 26 replacements.
@@mikek3951 you should put a post up on why a Kedi curb fails, a lot of installers would want to know why.
@@LandbergTileTV
The ones I have replaced mostly over time had become soft. You shouldn’t step on curbs but people do.
Some the bond to the floor had separated.
I had called mfg on a few and was informed by all accounts it seemed to be installed correctly.
I don’t make the product I just fix issues people have.
Personally I don’t like any of the foam products. Curb. Bench etc.
I’ll stick with solid wood. Waterproof. Deck mud.
People however can use what they want or request. I just simply have redone 26 of them.
Were all 26 in the same neighborhood or condo complex? Just wondering if all were installed by same person and done incorrect. 🤔