Twin-turbo V8 Plug-in Hybrid. Now that's something I wasn't expecting to hear about. I hope tech like this can trim weight and trickle down to keep performance V8's alive.
@@TedwardDrives My wife's 958 (2015) Cayenne S E-Hybrid does that too, it's not really a detent per se but it definitely communicates to you exactly where the threshold is. Porsche are masters of input feel.
2:32 Here's a quick tip when looking for the location of the fuel filler door: The little arrow next to the fuel pump icon in the gauge indicates the location of the door!
I'm very impressed by how quiet the interior is especially over these new england back roads. If my MX-5 had an electric mode it would just make it impossible to ignore all the creaks and rattles.
The thing I love about Porsche is that they like to understate their claims of statistics. It’ll say a car goes 0 to 60 in 4 seconds when it really does it in 3.6. Brilliant 😆
Got a DS 7 E-Tense, which is a french "luxury" midsize SUV. It has about the same range in full electric, half the power from half the cylinders but much less mass to move around, for half the price (≈$85k MSRP with every box ticked like mine). It's obviously nowhere near as capable as the Cayenne but I wasn't expecting it to be. Anyway, You made a very good point : I was very skeptical about switching from an ICE to an EV so going for a PHEV instead was a softer change that made me enjoy the best of both worlds, even though I still wouldn't want an EV as my only car, me being a car nut. It must be noted that it's hard for these very compromised vehicles to make sense. I'm aware that I can fully enjoy my baby only because I am lucky enough to meet very specific criteria that make a PHEV the best option (if I had disposable income I'd go for the Porsche obviously 😂) On a side note : I find it fun to play with all the systems to get the most out of the hybrid drivetrain on the commutes, makes them way less boring. A few words on regen braking : the brake pedal is set up in a 2 stage configuration : the first stage of travel (not much force required) ramps up the regen and then the second stage (requires much more force) uses the actual brakes. There's also a very distinct difference between the two stages, like on the Cayenne's throttle pedal. I do Respect the Drive and don't hug the leftmost lanes when I'm not overtaking. Bonsoir from France 🇫🇷 :)
Forgive me if I'm repeating the obvious, but for the fuel filler, most modern cars have an indicator on the fuel gauge which tells you which side of the car the fuel filler is on. Next to the symbol for gas (usually a fuel pump icon) will be a small arrow or triangle. It will be to the right of the pump for cars with fillers on the right, and to the left of the pump for fillers on the left.
Is there limitations in place for not cold-revving the engine? Seems like if you drive it in hybrid mode, and you push through to the point where the engine kicks in, it will still be stone cold and rev it's nuts off 😅
I had a BMW 530e and, for real, that gaming of the all electric was always my goal. I was averaging 64.4 mpg combined and I felt like I was beating the game.
1:28 probably due to where the electric motor’s power peak lines up with the gas engine’s peak. If they don’t peak at the same times then you won’t get 100% compounding figures!
That's a good point about running it on the batteries when you're just in normal traffic also you save on the engine putting less miles on it and then just use the gas for when you want to rip it around and beat on it
Another excellent review! We have a BMW X5 45E which is a similar concept but far cheaper and yes, we drive it a lot in EV mode around town, but then have the turbo 6 B-58 to add to the fun when we want/need it. Sure, I would prefer the Porsche but not at twice the price of the X5 45e.
Love the video, and showing the difference between driving in electric and then having the engine activate is great to see. Would love to see you cover a Porsche Panamera 4 E-Hybrid (non Turbo) in a video.
I have the same thought in hybrids loool! I don't have the chance to drive such vehicles but when I drive my mom's hybrid, I just try to be the most efficient possible in such a competitive way and I can't do anything about it LOL.
That's an awesome grocery getter but I'm wondering about something. If you start driving as you did on full electric mode and then push the pedal to the floor (engine starts running) isn't that pretty bad for the engine? Because the engine immediately after being started goes to like 4-5K rpms or even more. How does the oil warm up so fast to compensate the wear on the engine if it even warms up? Like for example when we all start our cars with ICE we wait at least for the rpms to drop and then we start moving with really low load (1500-2000 rpms) In the circumstance of this porsche, the engine is getting pretty high loads. Is there a system that warms up the oil while you are driving on electric power?
As for the fuel filler location, that little triangle/arrow next to the little fuel pump icon on your dash always points to the side where the filler is 🤓
@@TedwardDrives OK. I haven't seen a modern car that wasn't like that but maybe it's different in some countries. Also, I nodded at the Swiss commuter remark you made 😅
If I'm ever super rich, I'm gonna buy this thing used, lift it, make steel bumpers side skirts and add under body protection, then use it as a super powerful hybrid off roader thing to make people do the biggest double takes out on jeep trails.
@@TedwardDrives Legitimate question, so I'd imagine, while cold, it's not a good idea to be driving in electric only mode, then for the first engine start of the day, be asking it to pull to redline straight from being literally off and cold, but is that just me being use to "old" engines that don't run well cold and most modern engines, especially since the introduction of auto stop start, are built to take that? or does it like preheat the engine? not allow for a pull on first start? I'm so curious, I just feel like that can't be good for the engine.
That's the way. Push through that detent in the throttle travel and instantly rev your stone cold engine to 6000rpm! Wow, these cars are going to be nightmare to own when they're older.
Holy hell when you named off the specs my jaw dropped Edit: I don’t know what I was expecting but when you said that price my jaw dropped again😭 I don’t follow Porsche gonna stick to my fords and Subaru lol
Forgive me if I'm repeating the obvious, but for the fuel filler, most modern cars have an indicator on the fuel gauge which tells you which side of the car the fuel filler is on. Next to the symbol for gas (usually a fuel pump icon) will be a small arrow or triangle. It will be to the right of the pump for cars with fillers on the right, and to the left of the pump for fillers on the left. By the way --- at 7:30, the use of the expression "silent killers" was very unfortunate given the recent Thanksgiving weekend's news.
This car is wicked! Though I would rather have a mild-hybrid car then a PHEV. But hey, if you don't have to pay a lot of tax in europe to drive these kind of cars then heck yeah.
Does the pedal still feel that way in sport and sport+, or does it change? Next time you should stop at a charger and test out the charging system! I’d like to know how quickly it can charge, kWh of the battery, etc.
I drove the RR sport HSE dynamic today. Video will be out Friday but I’m blown away by the ride. Nearly rolls Royce comfort. I had no idea they were this good
You know you've been watching too many UK car reviews when you're expecting a cars price to be revealed in pounds even though I've never lived in the UK.
In order to go full electric, you need to have a charging station at home, at least 10KWh; you have to have a very good charging infrastructure, a warm weather (temperatures not lower than 10-15 degrees Celsius), a lot of patience with the charging time at the charging station, if you ever find one available. Electric cars are only for the city, if you go over 60miles/h the battery will be depleted very fast. I have an electric car and I know; EV is not the future. We are not greener if we use EV's, think about the production of the battery and none talks about how are those batteries going to be recycled, tones of batteries will fill the junk yards. A hybrid has 6-1000 pounds extra weight that needs to be carried around all the time; you have heard the tires trying very hard to keep this 5700 pounds car on the road at 60mph; a lot of mass, very high placed, no dynamics whatsoever. It is good as a bus, but not for speed in corners. This is a very good car, but it is not a sport car, it is an efficient-ish huge SUV. If you want a huge car like this to perform best, you have to take into consideration Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT; you can find a review of that car on Tedward also. That is a sport machine. the prices are considerably close.
A great vehicle without a doubt, but having owned a Cayenne S Hybrid and the Volvo XC90 T8 for a couple of years now, I really find it hard to justify the price for the Porsche. I don’t think it is 2X better, yet it is 2X more expensive.
Huh. Maybe this is the future of ICE in an electric world. This isn't so bad. I don't expect EVs to be true performance vehicles due to their lack of modifiablity.
Do you find the notoriously cheap Volkswagen company is making these Porsche's feel a bit cheap too? It would make me less likely to pay the big bucks if there is any cheapness to it. I've driven an AMG ML63 and there wasn't any cheapness in that 130K vehical. You can buy a Hublot, but might as well get a better made AP
@@TedwardDrives i think what he wanted to say is, that he thought the engine was cold. tho we know that you only start doing this accelerations once it is warm.
Still doesn't beat a Tesla and you have all that maintenance cost for the engine and gas prices in Los Angeles are $5 plus. I have an X6M V8 twin turbo and I'm selling it for a model Y no reason to go back to combustion engine
Twin-turbo V8 Plug-in Hybrid.
Now that's something I wasn't expecting to hear about. I hope tech like this can trim weight and trickle down to keep performance V8's alive.
when your v8 is running in a crowded traffic, the electric part is freaking perfect(I mean with the AC on)
The peddle design sounds really cool, knowing where that power is must be satisfying!
Such a surprise feature. Genius technology and simple
@@TedwardDrives My wife's 958 (2015) Cayenne S E-Hybrid does that too, it's not really a detent per se but it definitely communicates to you exactly where the threshold is. Porsche are masters of input feel.
Ill bet this reaches 60 faster than you can say its whole name
Facts
I tried it. You are correct. Me and my roommate have been trying to say it as fast as possible. 🤣
Imagine with "Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo", I tried and it took me 4.1 sec to with pronouncing Porsche in the right prononciation
I just love how that Porsche looks especially the rear and the interior
2:32 Here's a quick tip when looking for the location of the fuel filler door: The little arrow next to the fuel pump icon in the gauge indicates the location of the door!
that's not on every car. It's helpful when it's there.
I'm very impressed by how quiet the interior is especially over these new england back roads. If my MX-5 had an electric mode it would just make it impossible to ignore all the creaks and rattles.
I haven’t watched your video for a while…. Now i am backk!! Good to be backk and listen to you excited voice and drives
Welcome back!
The thing I love about Porsche is that they like to understate their claims of statistics. It’ll say a car goes 0 to 60 in 4 seconds when it really does it in 3.6. Brilliant 😆
Got a DS 7 E-Tense, which is a french "luxury" midsize SUV. It has about the same range in full electric, half the power from half the cylinders but much less mass to move around, for half the price (≈$85k MSRP with every box ticked like mine). It's obviously nowhere near as capable as the Cayenne but I wasn't expecting it to be.
Anyway, You made a very good point : I was very skeptical about switching from an ICE to an EV so going for a PHEV instead was a softer change that made me enjoy the best of both worlds, even though I still wouldn't want an EV as my only car, me being a car nut.
It must be noted that it's hard for these very compromised vehicles to make sense. I'm aware that I can fully enjoy my baby only because I am lucky enough to meet very specific criteria that make a PHEV the best option (if I had disposable income I'd go for the Porsche obviously 😂)
On a side note : I find it fun to play with all the systems to get the most out of the hybrid drivetrain on the commutes, makes them way less boring.
A few words on regen braking : the brake pedal is set up in a 2 stage configuration : the first stage of travel (not much force required) ramps up the regen and then the second stage (requires much more force) uses the actual brakes. There's also a very distinct difference between the two stages, like on the Cayenne's throttle pedal.
I do Respect the Drive and don't hug the leftmost lanes when I'm not overtaking.
Bonsoir from France 🇫🇷 :)
Forgive me if I'm repeating the obvious, but for the fuel filler, most modern cars have an indicator on the fuel gauge which tells you which side of the car the fuel filler is on. Next to the symbol for gas (usually a fuel pump icon) will be a small arrow or triangle. It will be to the right of the pump for cars with fillers on the right, and to the left of the pump for fillers on the left.
Is there limitations in place for not cold-revving the engine? Seems like if you drive it in hybrid mode, and you push through to the point where the engine kicks in, it will still be stone cold and rev it's nuts off 😅
I had a BMW 530e and, for real, that gaming of the all electric was always my goal. I was averaging 64.4 mpg combined and I felt like I was beating the game.
1:28 probably due to where the electric motor’s power peak lines up with the gas engine’s peak. If they don’t peak at the same times then you won’t get 100% compounding figures!
Best explanation so far
@@TedwardDrives Happy to help 👍🏼😎
Awesome vid man! 🔥
That's a good point about running it on the batteries when you're just in normal traffic also you save on the engine putting less miles on it and then just use the gas for when you want to rip it around and beat on it
I sort of dig the symmetric "fuel" caps on each side.
Awesome! Probably my all time dream vehicle.
Love the videos ted a sight i wont be seeing for awhile good to see it from your pov keep up the work
I’ll take mine in Mamba Green with Beige/Chestnut full leather with acid green contrast stitching.
It would be cool if they combined the 630 hp v8 from the normal Turbo S, with the electric motors from this car.
I have been waiting for these video since the day I saw the car on Boston Motorsport's Instagram . Finally
ELECTRIC START WTF I NEED THIS
Another excellent review! We have a BMW X5 45E which is a similar concept but far cheaper and yes, we drive it a lot in EV mode around town, but then have the turbo 6 B-58 to add to the fun when we want/need it. Sure, I would prefer the Porsche but not at twice the price of the X5 45e.
My favorite car !
Awesome video as always! In case you didn't know, the arrow on the fuel symbol (almost) always points to the side of the fuel filler thingy.
Yes am aware but not every car has the arrow and the fuel filler hose symbol is not always on the correct side
Yes am aware but not every car has the arrow and the fuel filler hose symbol is not always on the correct side
“ you can sneak out of the house no problem now “ 🤣
How beautiful are these roads
Love the video, and showing the difference between driving in electric and then having the engine activate is great to see. Would love to see you cover a Porsche Panamera 4 E-Hybrid (non Turbo) in a video.
i think this car is made for places like Europe that tax on emissions but still cool tech
Spot on! 😂
I have the same thought in hybrids loool! I don't have the chance to drive such vehicles but when I drive my mom's hybrid, I just try to be the most efficient possible in such a competitive way and I can't do anything about it LOL.
That's an awesome grocery getter but I'm wondering about something. If you start driving as you did on full electric mode and then push the pedal to the floor (engine starts running) isn't that pretty bad for the engine? Because the engine immediately after being started goes to like 4-5K rpms or even more. How does the oil warm up so fast to compensate the wear on the engine if it even warms up? Like for example when we all start our cars with ICE we wait at least for the rpms to drop and then we start moving with really low load (1500-2000 rpms) In the circumstance of this porsche, the engine is getting pretty high loads. Is there a system that warms up the oil while you are driving on electric power?
Why is the speedometer blurred but the HUD not?
The amount of porsche cayennes where I live is insane lol.
You drive a merc Maybach by doing RUclips videos? Wow... That's impressive and inspiring
As for the fuel filler location, that little triangle/arrow next to the little fuel pump icon on your dash always points to the side where the filler is 🤓
Not in every car. Just an anecdote. Fully aware of the arrow in some vehicles
@@TedwardDrives OK. I haven't seen a modern car that wasn't like that but maybe it's different in some countries. Also, I nodded at the Swiss commuter remark you made 😅
This is brilliant! Love your reviews
Thanks!
E-power for the commute, twin turbo V8 for the cannonball
6:00 This get me attention of satisfying of the engine just come on when hybrid mode is off.
If I'm ever super rich, I'm gonna buy this thing used, lift it, make steel bumpers side skirts and add under body protection, then use it as a super powerful hybrid off roader thing to make people do the biggest double takes out on jeep trails.
Respect
@@TedwardDrives Legitimate question, so I'd imagine, while cold, it's not a good idea to be driving in electric only mode, then for the first engine start of the day, be asking it to pull to redline straight from being literally off and cold, but is that just me being use to "old" engines that don't run well cold and most modern engines, especially since the introduction of auto stop start, are built to take that? or does it like preheat the engine? not allow for a pull on first start? I'm so curious, I just feel like that can't be good for the engine.
Quick fyi, you can also look at your fuel gauge and the small arrow there will denote which side to fill up.
Not present on every car
Oh thats a bummer, it really should be!
That's the way. Push through that detent in the throttle travel and instantly rev your stone cold engine to 6000rpm!
Wow, these cars are going to be nightmare to own when they're older.
But it was fully warm
@@TedwardDrives I was talking generally, about how most users will be driving these, rather than your video.
Holy hell when you named off the specs my jaw dropped
Edit: I don’t know what I was expecting but when you said that price my jaw dropped again😭 I don’t follow Porsche gonna stick to my fords and Subaru lol
yeah, literally I just want a plug-in hybrid that sounds like this !!!
Thank you
my dads touareg hybrid has the same calipers. same as the urus too.
10 piston is nuts huh?
@@TedwardDrives very. Stops quick for 6300 lbs
Forgive me if I'm repeating the obvious, but for the fuel filler, most modern cars have an indicator on the fuel gauge which tells you which side of the car the fuel filler is on. Next to the symbol for gas (usually a fuel pump icon) will be a small arrow or triangle. It will be to the right of the pump for cars with fillers on the right, and to the left of the pump for fillers on the left.
By the way --- at 7:30, the use of the expression "silent killers" was very unfortunate given the recent Thanksgiving weekend's news.
So much speed, so little drama. Soccer mom's 918.
Lol at 8:27 you cover the speedometer but we can see you pass 100 briefly on the windshield
u should review the xc90 t8 polestar
This car is wicked! Though I would rather have a mild-hybrid car then a PHEV. But hey, if you don't have to pay a lot of tax in europe to drive these kind of cars then heck yeah.
FYI - if you look at the gas gauge there’s a small arrow that tells you which side you fill up on.
Not on every car but yes some cars have this
great video
Thank you!
Porsche just seems to do everything right. I hate that can't have all of them. Or even one 😭
Does the pedal still feel that way in sport and sport+, or does it change? Next time you should stop at a charger and test out the charging system! I’d like to know how quickly it can charge, kWh of the battery, etc.
Honestly for the power this has I’d expect it to be quicker. Doesn’t seem much quicker than a regular cayenne turbo, maybe I’m just being ridiculous
You’re correct and being ridiculous haha. It’s definitely fast enough but you’re right…the extra power basically just makes up for the heft
Dream grocery getter hope I can get one for my mom one day lol
Is that hybrid system heating engine or something like that? So it is ready to launch engine to 7rpm just after start?🤔
this cars trunk opening beep sounds exactly like my 2012 skoda lol
If you use these hybrids properly, they are remarkable. But you gotta charge them otherwise it’s a complete waste of money
5:25 Swiss me feeling bad for others 😳😳😂
As long as you appreciate your roads 😂
new graphics in forza horison is delightful
this is my baby
Well I have noticed Volkswagen Group cars mostly have the fuel filler cap on the right rear but i could be mistaken with some cars
I am between this and RR SVR. Thoughts on which drive is smoother when just cruising?
I drove the RR sport HSE dynamic today. Video will be out Friday but I’m blown away by the ride. Nearly rolls Royce comfort. I had no idea they were this good
The driving noise in my cayenneS V8 diesel is also far from quite. On the passengers side its a lot less. I noticed when i let my friend drive it.
8:27 blurring out the speed lol
full throttle inside sounds like a quieter gt500
can u do the ford gt next? big fan btw very addicted
how come the speedo thingy is in the wind shield too?
Heads up display. Pretty common feature
@@TedwardDrives it's so cool! love watching the vids some of the engine sounds are so sick sounding
You know you've been watching too many UK car reviews when you're expecting a cars price to be revealed in pounds even though I've never lived in the UK.
😂 I hear you on this
Great vehicle to go cross country
In order to go full electric, you need to have a charging station at home, at least 10KWh; you have to have a very good charging infrastructure, a warm weather (temperatures not lower than 10-15 degrees Celsius), a lot of patience with the charging time at the charging station, if you ever find one available. Electric cars are only for the city, if you go over 60miles/h the battery will be depleted very fast. I have an electric car and I know; EV is not the future. We are not greener if we use EV's, think about the production of the battery and none talks about how are those batteries going to be recycled, tones of batteries will fill the junk yards. A hybrid has 6-1000 pounds extra weight that needs to be carried around all the time; you have heard the tires trying very hard to keep this 5700 pounds car on the road at 60mph; a lot of mass, very high placed, no dynamics whatsoever. It is good as a bus, but not for speed in corners. This is a very good car, but it is not a sport car, it is an efficient-ish huge SUV. If you want a huge car like this to perform best, you have to take into consideration Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT; you can find a review of that car on Tedward also. That is a sport machine. the prices are considerably close.
Censored the main speedo but forgot about the HUD.😂😂😂 Great reveiw though.
Just an Easter egg for you. Did not forget 😂
I don't recive notifications for video
FOR God's shake
Hit that bell!
“Richman’s Toyota RAV4 Prime” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A great vehicle without a doubt, but having owned a Cayenne S Hybrid and the Volvo XC90 T8 for a couple of years now, I really find it hard to justify the price for the Porsche. I don’t think it is 2X better, yet it is 2X more expensive.
Every car for 40 years or more has had a little small Arrow next to the gas gauge which side is goes on
Not true. Some cars do. But absolutely not every car
I wish to never ever drive this car, cause I know once I'm inside I'll never get out 😭
This thing has gottt to be soo heavy lol
7:15 It's gamification!
Just couldn’t get myself to swing that asking price. A base Cayenne for $90k would be perfect enough lol
the MPH also show on the HUD lol
Left that for you. Will blur it if you don’t want it 🤷♂️
I think you mean lacrosse moms. lol. Maybe even dressage.
😂
Huh. Maybe this is the future of ICE in an electric world. This isn't so bad.
I don't expect EVs to be true performance vehicles due to their lack of modifiablity.
I really like this car, but for a turbo V8 and an electric motor, 670HP kinda seems low
No one buying this car has even the vaguest concern for the environment
Do you find the notoriously cheap Volkswagen company is making these Porsche's feel a bit cheap too? It would make me less likely to pay the big bucks if there is any cheapness to it. I've driven an AMG ML63 and there wasn't any cheapness in that 130K vehical. You can buy a Hublot, but might as well get a better made AP
Get a 911 or cayman when you wan fun get a cayenne if you need those too and more room
Tesla doesn’t belong in the same paragraph as Porsche. When Elon wins Le Mans, wake me up.
with taxes and dealer mark up, a hybrid sq5 that costs $200k... no thank you
too bad you didn't drive it in sports plus or sports , the drive mode was set to hybrid or eco the entire video...
😂 that’s not true.
Take the 2022 macan s out
Wait…. It’s a Porsche…. And you can see the full gauge cluster?????
It doesnt look far different from WW GOLF TBH XDDD
cant be good going from idle to full rev like this. Must damage the engine.
That’s literally what engines are designed for.
@@TedwardDrives i think what he wanted to say is, that he thought the engine was cold. tho we know that you only start doing this accelerations once it is warm.
I CAN SNEAK AWAY WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING?
Still doesn't beat a Tesla and you have all that maintenance cost for the engine and gas prices in Los Angeles are $5 plus. I have an X6M V8 twin turbo and I'm selling it for a model Y no reason to go back to combustion engine
Lol funn6 hossain
First
Porsche looks like a FROG from the headlights specially the Suv's..and expensive too!!
Your mother looks like a fish...?