no. pretty much the worst. An inefficient engine, small battery and weak electric motor. that is stupid. battery size is ok, but they should put in more powerful electric motors and a very efficient gas engine to generate electricity.
@@mishomaisuradze8205 the Prius also has pathetic electric motors. My point is that proper electric motors outperform ANY V8/12/14/16/18...etc. engine. They purposely made it slow, even though it wouldn't have cost much more to make it a lot better.
@@Poxenium No one cares with a full electric set up you would gain a few extra tenths on the 0-60 sprint. 99% of the costumer base for this car prefers the safe range and the beautiful V8.
The hybrid versions are cheaper than the normal versions over here in the Netherlands. They get certain tax benefits and on cars like this taxes are enormous.
Same here in Ireland. Hybrids and evs pay the same vat unless it’s business vehicle. Annual tax for the old 4.2 diesel was almost €2000 per year and the hybrid is €200 per year.
This channel is excellent. I usually watch only a few of them (Harry's Garage, Jay Leno, Doug DeMuro, AutoTopNL and this). Nice footage, very informative, just maybe to long for my taste. Thomas is German and all the best cars are from Germany, so this is added value. Germans are masters for cars and technology...
This channel fills in the gap for all the others, AutoTopNL is short vid with acceleration and sound samples, Doug is a likeable weirdo who points out random useful/useless shit, Jay Leno is a legend, and Autogefühl is that channel that goes into every last detail about the car. Simply put, if you're truly looking to buy a vehicle, this is the only place worth coming to check out a review in.
@I. Petricevic & David Lugarov - Yeah - I agree with the channel choices - but for driving enthusiasts and car-nuts, with this channel you also get a great driving part on real roads with good views out ahead, and you get a polite and courteous presenter. Who is close to the auto industry, so you hear a little snippets about the latest trends, technology, things like WLTP, petrol particulate filters/SCR, legislation, EV/PHEV/hybrid/diesel debate, that kind of thing... Cheers. (oh - another great video Thomas, by the way!).
Reasons to go for the Turbo S E-Hybrid? 1. Significant tax benefits (in most European countries, especially if it's a company car) 2. Future proof against proposed zero-emission zones (again a European thing) 3. You simply have to have the most expensive one 4. You actually enjoy progressive technologies Reasons to go for the coupe? NONE!
Great review as always. That acceleration is savage, but I wonder what happens when you drive in pure electrict for a while and the ICE cools down and then you suddenly hammer the throttle and the ICE starts at very high RPMs... Probably it doesn't last very long...
WOW x 3...great review from such amazing SUV...i want this PORSCHE ¨Thomas drving lounge¨version! Now my only concern what will I do with my Google Pixel no Android AUTO...
Love the idea of reduced emissions w/in town and urban environments. Here, in the USA, being subject to the big turbo diesel pick-up truck emissions (think industrial era smoke stacks), the exposure to particulate matter is significant. Those seats look really nice, but I'm not sure about the faux suede steering wheel covering. The price point is completely out of my reach, but here's to hoping that the engineering makes its way down into more reasonably priced VW AG offerings.
I'm an electric car only person but I do have a love for my Porsche brand as my 2nd child. However, I would have really liked if they would have given us Nissan's old 24kwh battery to be able to get real practical usage on a daily basis. I chose to love Porsche from afar until they decide to make smarter future-ready choices.
@autogefuehl Thanks, I have seen your full review of the cayenne where you had reservations about Porsche announcing the coupe version, as you stated, the cayenne original is already coupe enough. I think I may go for the standard with the added practicalities. I love your channel by the way!
I'm I the only one to notice that the rear is much lower then the front? Especially when accelerating even though this car has anti tilt system. This car battery must weight a ton. Looks odd to me.
Many thanks for a great Review. Everything a bit gloomy & dark inside that heavyweight Cayenne: prefer a lighter interior! Great Driving Lounge, Thomas, as always. Wow - Germany company car, 1 percent of list price per month - or even half that for a PHEV/EV - quite an expense! Thanks Autogefuhl Team for all the usual detailed information.
Funny how in the Netherlands the Turbo S E-Hybrid is around 12k cheaper than the 'normal' Turbo due to our tax regulations, whilst in Germany it's actually 30k more expensive. Nevertheless, the Turbo S still costs 20k more here, the regular Turbo is even 60k more.
Only gripe I have is that I wish that you wouldn't do so many coupes, especially for these cars that I'm interested in....have absolutely no interest in any coupes, so, once it's a couple, nothing else matters, i would never buy it. Also, couldn't imagine having this car with fixed panaromic roof as one of Cayenne's best feature is the huge panaromic roof.
Northwest Side oh u mean the urus? U can have that Lamborghini..in my opinion Lamborghini is still italian heritage and Lamborghini’s costs a much as a ferrari’s..not all Ferrari’s are esclusive!
There is no reason to get this so-called SUV. One of the main reasons for an SUV is cargo space, and the non Coupe' simply has more. We could do with more electric range on the Cayenne. The chalk color is nice, though and I usually hate white.
the 80s called, they want their VW Rabbit textiles back, priced 150.000 EUR+. I used to like Porsche, and maybe i still do, but the cost cutting they do nowadays makes you puke, absolutely sick. Those wheels used to close the vents look like Golf ones 2004 and earlier, cheap plastic everywhere, Porsche is getting terrible at quality, still one of the best performances. But i think i would choose Mercedes anytime, or BMW. Audi is not a car. Just my opinion, with regard to Audi....all other aspects in this comment i think i'm right about.
@@autogefuehl Yes they have to go for something more Porsche, something unique for them and which distinguish them from the patterns of VW👍 still i have never liked the coupe SUVs everytime i go in the backseats i feel uncomfortable... but apart from that the normal cayenne is probably one of my favorite cars for now the interior is extremely purely perfect and interestingly after i watched your review of the new cayenne and then i went to the new X5 review, the bmw seemed a bit boring because of the greatness of the Porsche. So just the pattern is what i don't like😉👍
Since the 160k Turbo is so cheap why not make a 210k Cayenne and save some tre.. oh sorry burn more rubber. The 0.1 secs speed increase and 300 KG more is a joke.
V8 Hybrid, best of both worlds 😍🔥
no. pretty much the worst. An inefficient engine, small battery and weak electric motor. that is stupid. battery size is ok, but they should put in more powerful electric motors and a very efficient gas engine to generate electricity.
Zoltán Kárpát this is not the Prius bro, electric is only for the performance boost
@@mishomaisuradze8205 the Prius also has pathetic electric motors. My point is that proper electric motors outperform ANY V8/12/14/16/18...etc. engine. They purposely made it slow, even though it wouldn't have cost much more to make it a lot better.
@@Poxenium No one cares with a full electric set up you would gain a few extra tenths on the 0-60 sprint. 99% of the costumer base for this car prefers the safe range and the beautiful V8.
@@Poxenium True, but only while it lasts. Which sadly, still isn't very long -- their limitation. Otherwise, we'd all be driving electric cars by now.
Great video Thomas and Autogefühl team! 🎉
Highest standards in reviewing as usual. Keep it up!
The hybrid versions are cheaper than the normal versions over here in the Netherlands. They get certain tax benefits and on cars like this taxes are enormous.
Ye but this is not the regular e hybrid.. in Norway the price difference between this and the normal e hybrid is 1 million kronors, or 100k euros.
Yeah here in Finland too. Starting price for Cayenne Turbo Coupe is 278.000€ and for the Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupe is 197.000€
Same here in Ireland. Hybrids and evs pay the same vat unless it’s business vehicle. Annual tax for the old 4.2 diesel was almost €2000 per year and the hybrid is €200 per year.
This channel is excellent. I usually watch only a few of them (Harry's Garage, Jay Leno, Doug DeMuro, AutoTopNL and this). Nice footage, very informative, just maybe to long for my taste.
Thomas is German and all the best cars are from Germany, so this is added value. Germans are masters for cars and technology...
This channel fills in the gap for all the others, AutoTopNL is short vid with acceleration and sound samples, Doug is a likeable weirdo who points out random useful/useless shit, Jay Leno is a legend, and Autogefühl is that channel that goes into every last detail about the car. Simply put, if you're truly looking to buy a vehicle, this is the only place worth coming to check out a review in.
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Thanks!! If u want shorter versions, also feel free to tune in to our 2nd Channel linked in the video description
@I. Petricevic & David Lugarov - Yeah - I agree with the channel choices - but for driving enthusiasts and car-nuts, with this channel you also get a great driving part on real roads with good views out ahead, and you get a polite and courteous presenter. Who is close to the auto industry, so you hear a little snippets about the latest trends, technology, things like WLTP, petrol particulate filters/SCR, legislation, EV/PHEV/hybrid/diesel debate, that kind of thing... Cheers. (oh - another great video Thomas, by the way!).
You summed it up perfectly "wow, wow, wow".
amazing blast on the AUTOBAHN *-*. cheers
Another great and very thorough review. Thanks!
I’ve been waiting for this Cayenne for a while. Great review👍
Love the Houndstooth pattern on the seats. It's like what Porsche did on the 911 R's CFRP Full Bucket Seats..
Good job Thomas! but what brand is your watch? so awesome as well!
thanks man, alpina it is
Thank you!
😨 Godlike.... Danke Thomas, wie immer daa beste interview!
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Reasons to go for the Turbo S E-Hybrid?
1. Significant tax benefits (in most European countries, especially if it's a company car)
2. Future proof against proposed zero-emission zones (again a European thing)
3. You simply have to have the most expensive one
4. You actually enjoy progressive technologies
Reasons to go for the coupe?
NONE!
billandyeng
Looks my friend is the reason to get a coupé
On the contrary, the biggest
The only but huge problem is losing the wading capability from 530mm to 290mm.....
Coupé looks 10x better 😍
Great review as always. That acceleration is savage, but I wonder what happens when you drive in pure electrict for a while and the ICE cools down and then you suddenly hammer the throttle and the ICE starts at very high RPMs... Probably it doesn't last very long...
Yeah good point
Nice video.. this car is amazing.
Thanks Thomas! Another great video! I don’t like the coupe version of the Cayenne. Well done on 400K. 🤘
cheers man - keep supporting !
Congratulation on 400K subscribers, Thomas 👍
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WOW x 3...great review from such amazing SUV...i want this PORSCHE ¨Thomas drving lounge¨version! Now my only concern what will I do with my Google Pixel no Android AUTO...
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Love the idea of reduced emissions w/in town and urban environments. Here, in the USA, being subject to the big turbo diesel pick-up truck emissions (think industrial era smoke stacks), the exposure to particulate matter is significant.
Those seats look really nice, but I'm not sure about the faux suede steering wheel covering. The price point is completely out of my reach, but here's to hoping that the engineering makes its way down into more reasonably priced VW AG offerings.
I press the like button before the video starts. anyone else does that?
Way to go! :>
In Austria, the Turbo S is 7500€ cheaper (!) than the normal Turbo.
Great review Thomas 🙌
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I'm an electric car only person but I do have a love for my Porsche brand as my 2nd child. However, I would have really liked if they would have given us Nissan's old 24kwh battery to be able to get real practical usage on a daily basis. I chose to love Porsche from afar until they decide to make smarter future-ready choices.
Gratulation zu 400,000 Abonnenten
Danke 🙏
Danke 🙏
The front caliper is massive. Looks race spec'ed. Anytime Thomas busts out the folding measuring stick, you know he means business.
Excellent video as usual, but I don't see how the hybrid turbo s is worth $20k more than a similarly equipped non-hybrid turbo s.
Awesome review🔥🔥👍
thanks! Please subscribe to both channels and recommend us =)
I cannot decide between a 2020 cayenne or cayenne coupe. What do you recommend?
More a styling choice!
@autogefuehl Thanks, I have seen your full review of the cayenne where you had reservations about Porsche announcing the coupe version, as you stated, the cayenne original is already coupe enough. I think I may go for the standard with the added practicalities. I love your channel by the way!
Thomas is back. Good!
Nice review. Impressive car.
Great review as always Thomas. Great car but almost unreachable. A little overpowered too.
Tayyar Twenty5 no such thing as overpowered ! Haha kidding practically wise you’re not wrong mate
@@karlsandin4515 Here, here.
Beautiful car and beautiful country.
Sounds nuts
Which one do you like more? This or rsq8?
Tell me: ruclips.net/video/ENffl4bf6Us/видео.html
@@autogefuehl i watched both videos and i think the rsq8 was more fun. Right?
love the color of chalk so much
I expected frameless doors from Porsche Cayenne Coupe. Don't know why Porsche ditched that.
for me may be the (german) most elegant SUV of the market ;)
What a crazy beast!
It sounds EPIC....
Superb car ... I loved it
Will there be a gts coming soon?
I think so
I'm I the only one to notice that the rear is much lower then the front? Especially when accelerating even though this car has anti tilt system. This car battery must weight a ton. Looks odd to me.
Many thanks for a great Review. Everything a bit gloomy & dark inside that heavyweight Cayenne: prefer a lighter interior! Great Driving Lounge, Thomas, as always. Wow - Germany company car, 1 percent of list price per month - or even half that for a PHEV/EV - quite an expense! Thanks Autogefuhl Team for all the usual detailed information.
thans john!
Did you state the weight?
680hp hybrid turbo without watching the vid I'll be getting one
Is this mean there are :
Turbo
Turbo S
Turbo S E-hayride
Please I am confused !
No, no turbo s
Thanks Thomas. Yes...Great people can afford this car and it's technology so there is no need to fear any cultural cringe... with me. Great machine!
I need this car. I hope it is cheap to run.
Sound so good
Big Like
What color is it?🤔
Funny how in the Netherlands the Turbo S E-Hybrid is around 12k cheaper than the 'normal' Turbo due to our tax regulations, whilst in Germany it's actually 30k more expensive. Nevertheless, the Turbo S still costs 20k more here, the regular Turbo is even 60k more.
Wow
They make up for it with the more expensive price (tax) on gasoline.
I thought the turbo S version from 0-100 will in 3.5s. Looks Porsche want that area to Lmbo.
color Cashmere Beige Metallic?
Speed is limited to 295 km/h / 183 mph. I guess the Bentley Bentayga V12 has to be faster :)
2610 kg - what a smart car
What colour is this car?
Chalk
@@autogefuehl thanks.
What will the differences be between the north America and the European spec models?
Turning indicator lights thats for sure :)
The hot key is set for RHS drive.
nice. you were in my region.
:)
How is the brake feel of these?
is this crayon color?
Watch :)
Autogefühl i did, but Thomas said chalk, is that crayon?
Isnt it called Chalk in your configurator? If its called Crayon, it surely must be it!
CVT??
Converter
It's going to sell for 2500 euros after 10 years. I'll wait.
@@visionist7 maybe 15 but 20 is way too much for a cayenne
Only gripe I have is that I wish that you wouldn't do so many coupes, especially for these cars that I'm interested in....have absolutely no interest in any coupes, so, once it's a couple, nothing else matters, i would never buy it. Also, couldn't imagine having this car with fixed panaromic roof as one of Cayenne's best feature is the huge panaromic roof.
in our world just Germans now how to fabric cars 🇩🇪💪
Northwest Side Really?? Never heard of a country called italy?
kappa Lamborghini it’s German now all it’s technology come from Porsche and Audi.
Ferrari it’s dream car but it’s very very, very expensive 🤷🏻♂️
Northwest Side oh u mean the urus? U can have that Lamborghini..in my opinion Lamborghini is still italian heritage and Lamborghini’s costs a much as a ferrari’s..not all Ferrari’s are esclusive!
He s got a point, the Lambos are more expensive Audis these days indeed technology wise
hi kittyyyyy!!!
People need to mark where they do acceleration test.
People need to enjoy FULL LENGTH
There is no reason to get this so-called SUV. One of the main reasons for an SUV is cargo space, and the non Coupe' simply has more.
We could do with more electric range on the Cayenne. The chalk color is nice, though and I usually hate white.
B A cuánto cuesta la yipeta En qué país está está está está y que le dé está
the 80s called, they want their VW Rabbit textiles back, priced 150.000 EUR+. I used to like Porsche, and maybe i still do, but the cost cutting they do nowadays makes you puke, absolutely sick. Those wheels used to close the vents look like Golf ones 2004 and earlier, cheap plastic everywhere, Porsche is getting terrible at quality, still one of the best performances. But i think i would choose Mercedes anytime, or BMW. Audi is not a car. Just my opinion, with regard to Audi....all other aspects in this comment i think i'm right about.
Merc is the worst in terms of interior rattles and quality
You need to watch more Mercedes/Porsche comparisons. Mercedes are full of electronic nanny overrides, while Porsche still offers you a driver's car.
@@agreatd I've never been impressed by a Mercedes interior (console/dash) on any of their cars. Only their seats are worthy of praise.
goodness he is tall!
Balls drop at 31:48
truely in summe gear : ).
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I think by the look of it,it could out run the Urus 🤔
The urus has 30ps less and doesn't have the extra weight of the electric powertrain so it accelerates to 100 faster than this
With 680HP, it would definitely give the Urus at 630HP a run for its money.
It would be a very interesting race!
@@TheRandomGuy65COD Its not the Urus, but the Bentayga Speed that's the quickest of this group.
Krane nah, the Urus is quicker, has the same top speed, is lighter and more rigid. The Bentayga speed is a floating boat
Too quiet, not a sporty experience. Good for my grandma. Lol.
Consultora necesita
time to sell my dream URUS
its so fast, almost as a tesla
Race btw this and the urus
Rip urus
These seats are awful are they taken from Golf... hopefully there are other choices
As i said, those are the best seats u can get for the cayenne. It makes the car twice as comfortable
@@autogefuehl true but just personal opinion 👍😀😉
They should offer more fabric choices for people like u who prefer a different color/pattern
@@autogefuehl Yes they have to go for something more Porsche, something unique for them and which distinguish them from the patterns of VW👍 still i have never liked the coupe SUVs everytime i go in the backseats i feel uncomfortable... but apart from that the normal cayenne is probably one of my favorite cars for now the interior is extremely purely perfect and interestingly after i watched your review of the new cayenne and then i went to the new X5 review, the bmw seemed a bit boring because of the greatness of the Porsche. So just the pattern is what i don't like😉👍
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Since the 160k Turbo is so cheap why not make a 210k Cayenne and save some tre.. oh sorry burn more rubber. The 0.1 secs speed increase and 300 KG more is a joke.
first the panamera. now this
It the automotive industries bread and butter now. Without SUVs the companies (no matter their history) wouldn't last long.
3008 RULES! ;-)
Just one word #Dieselgate
They all do it Jeeves. VW got caught.
@@krane15 amateurs! ha ha ha
That would be 2 nobs at the steering wheel😀😀😀
Why debadge it lol
Cigar on wheels. DISLIKE.
Just remember that the thumbs are for the video, not for the car
Some cars and colors are so ugly this is one of them
I'm not impressed with the colors at all. Not just the dingy T-shirt white but the gaudy yellow brake calipers as well.
Krane all the Porsche models with Ceramic brakes have the yellow callipers
overpriced snob-mobile
Compared to what?
Why buying a Porsche which doesn't fit to the DNA of the brand...? People are that uncultured ?
Porsche would disagree.
@@krane15 I don't think so... they just want to sell in order to assure the existence of their brand.
VW Touareg is the best SUV ever......even Porsche or Audi cannot top the Touareg.
4ecogays....
Manners, please.