Why The Porsche Cayenne Coupe Turbo S E-Hybrid Is The Stupidest Car On Sale Today

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Today courtesy of Porsche UK I have the pleasure of sampling two cars in their current lineup. I'm not in love with the 992, so I asked for a pair of Porkers which were not 911s. We begin with this, the very long named Cayenne Coupe Turbo S E-Hybrid. What's it like?
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  • @johnclayney2933
    @johnclayney2933 3 года назад +143

    James will only ever make two trips to Porsche Reading. One to collect these cars and one to drop them off.... ; )

    • @Combustionclub
      @Combustionclub 3 года назад +17

      😂😂 we need more people like James though, we can’t keep sugar coating cars for the sake of further business with the manufacturers.

    • @yammy1000
      @yammy1000 3 года назад +6

      Obviously has a big problem with them for some reason.

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt 2 года назад +1

      @@Combustionclub being edgy and contrarian just for the sake of views isn’t really helpful either.

  • @duncanorr5926
    @duncanorr5926 3 года назад +98

    Let's hope Porsche watch more than 5 minutes of the video and get to the positive bits!

    • @hjvh78ho
      @hjvh78ho 3 года назад +16

      lol as if Porsche are actually going to watch this video. They couldn't care less what this guy says about 2 of their best selling cars (maybe not the se hybrid or turbo but the cayenne and taycan in general).

    • @Tential1
      @Tential1 3 года назад +1

      @@hjvh78ho except they actually do care, the advertising model is moving to influencers. You do realize that there has been publicized disputes between larger companies in the whole Volkswagen group and small RUclipsrs like this.

  • @sparky4878
    @sparky4878 3 года назад +77

    When the car’s name is too long to fit on the boot that’s not a good start.

    • @hi9580
      @hi9580 3 года назад

      It's good if you want a car with everything

  • @SDK2006b
    @SDK2006b 3 года назад +34

    I imagine the majority of people buying this aren't doing it for space requirements. It's for the in-trend SUV style, supercar performance and again, in-trend electric power.

    • @andrewfrancis3591
      @andrewfrancis3591 3 года назад +1

      For it's real intended use a 4 door salon would work just as well. Cant see many of these going mud plugging.

    • @Hali88
      @Hali88 3 года назад

      yeh it's very compromised - trying to be all things to all people

    • @hjvh78ho
      @hjvh78ho 3 года назад +7

      Exactly! shame there are so many people on here who just don't understand that notion and jump on the oh it's just a dumb idea bandwagon. All the complaining about the boot space... on a coupe hybrid?? The people buying them already know that the coupe has a smaller boot than the normal version and that most hybrid tech means losing some space in the boot.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 2 года назад +4

      I disagree, here's why.
      Big 2 "parking priority" and "HOV Lane access"
      Business owner tax deductions. Currently, US business owner's who purchase a hybrid, +6000 GVWR vehicle can not only get a 100% tax depreciation on the vehicle but a bonus as well. Now for this SUV you can only max out up to $25k but with Federal & State tax incentives you get additional deductions and if you buy it brand new you'll get 50% bonus depreciation. There's some other deduction you can take on regarding the hybrid system. So instead of paying for a brand new $85k Porsche Cayenne Hybrid they may only pay $30k-$50k depending on options.
      They're buying it as a performance family hauler that has dual purpose for winter performance driving and over high waters.
      I stay in Annapolis, MD and we have high tides all the time off the East Coast. Many owners have weekend high performance cars they put away for winter.
      As much as I dislike SUV's they do provide a utility that an Estate car cannot and many prefer not to purchase a truck b/c a wagon is more practical for mundane family usage around town.
      There's no shortage of Mercedes-Benz, Land Rover and Porsche SUVs around town especially considering most residents own boats, yatchs, or some sort of water craft.
      Something like this is easier to maneuver around town on the small side streets, parking lots, back roads and gated communities.
      Personally I've only required a 4x4 for one occasion which was a steep icy hill that had I not used 4L, I'd slide back down like all the other cars.
      With in car Navigation I've been able to reroute myself incase of road closures, high water or downed trees.
      But saying it's for those very few minute things I think is invalid, b/c this truck has the same capacity as a Mini, Kia Soul, or other small SUVs but sits higher and out performs most sports cars or anything on the road in bad conditions.
      The #1 (I'll list these 2 atop) reason I can think of is a hybrid while less practical actually has an advantage I never hear spoken online. That's "parking priority" and "HOV Lane access". You get to park upfront next to handicap spaces if they have charger's. You get priority parking in parking garages at apartments or city area's. Priority parking at parks, amusement parks, and national parks. You get a HOV lane and don't require a passenger so you save way more time in a hybrid if it's how you commute to work especially if you used it to drop off your kids at school and have to drive from Annapolis to D.C. which takes 1hr in rush hour traffic without the HOV lane. Obviously you shouldn't speed but 9 out of 10 times you can get away with pushing 80-90mph cutting your time from 60min to 25min and vice versa coming back home and having to do it again. 120min vs 50min is a big deal when you add that over 1wk, 1mo, 1yr or 10yrs, that's a lot of time better used than sitting in traffic being no use to anyone.
      I don't know about anyone else but 250min vs 600min in a week is massive. 28,800min being cut by more than half is huge.
      So my big 3 is Time, HOV access, and Priority Parking. Even parking you save time vs having to park far away they give you a spot only other hybrids or EVs can access.
      Imagine being an older man or woman but not quite a senior with children and a full time corporate job working on the East Coast or all 4 Season area with high population.
      Just think how quickly you can get to an Airport if there's an accident on the road and the HOV lane is open.
      Personally for me I'd not get the panaramic roof, sun roof or carbon roof and instead would option a roof rack and trailer hitch. Porsche's are known for being one of the best trailer vehicles due to it's smooth ride and handling. Add a roof rack and now you can haul ass to a airport, ski resort or summer vacation and not sit in a bunch of traffic with a 50% discount + whatever you negotiated and have Porsche reliability and performance and value (low depreciation).

    • @dct124
      @dct124 2 года назад +1

      @@andrewfrancis3591 nah, there's many things this vehicle has going for it beyond a sedan or estate and I don't like SUVs but in the US they're hot because, of cost savings, time savings, privilege, reliability, performance, ride height and value that does actually exceed a sedan or estate by a wide margin. Now vehicle for vehicle an SUV just has ride height and towing capacity. You start adding HOV lane, parking, tax breaks, tax deductions, high safety (aside from rollovers), then it starts to make sense, when you can save some 30,000hrs of your life per year from traffic. $30,000 or more in savings. Even more saved on maintenance compared to even the Toureg, Q8 and other competetors aside from Lexus and Toyota which I personally prefer the styling and performance of the Ceyanne to a RX, GX or RAV4 🤷🏾‍♂️ once you factor in business you can get the Ceyanne for the price of a RAV4 or GX and have the same reliability.

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 года назад +29

    SUV? Yes.
    pretend-coupé roofline? Yes.
    hybrid? Yes.
    enormous rims? Yes.
    the weight of a small sun? Yes.
    digital dashboard? Yes.
    touchscreens? Yes.
    flat, thick A-pillars? Yes.
    expensive enough to only be bought by the seriously rich or financed by the seriously shady? Yes.
    yet subsidised by tax money? Yes.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 3 года назад +4

      But surely a 700bhp SUV is precisely how we should be using hybrid technology?
      The whole point of hybrid technology is to allow us to drive preposterously powerful behemoths that serve no purpose whatsoever, while feeling like we're not destroying the environment.

    • @leokal457
      @leokal457 3 года назад +2

      In Germany this thing gets subsidised by taxes but a prius doesnt because it doesnt have a charger

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 года назад

      @@julianevans9548
      Have my upvote.

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 года назад

      @@leokal457
      Don't get me started on our government's transport policy...

    • @raupenimmersatt6906
      @raupenimmersatt6906 3 года назад +1

      @@leokal457 Same here in Austria. A GLE Hybrid is cheaper than a GLC lol because of tax reduction.
      Yeah nice job there Austria+Germany

  • @5thgearouttahere
    @5thgearouttahere 3 года назад +53

    The great thing about this Cayenne is it's gravitational pull brings your destination _to you_ !🧲

  • @cousinjames9660
    @cousinjames9660 3 года назад +14

    It’s designed to get round the stupidly excessive taxation in markets like France - much less stupid

    • @newbeginnings8566
      @newbeginnings8566 3 года назад +1

      You are so correct and the French 'malus' tarifs are a great example of this stupidity and why companies are being forced to do daft things..

    • @Hyrppa95
      @Hyrppa95 3 года назад

      Yep, exactly this. Want a Cayenne Turbo Coupé in Finland? That'll be 278k euros. Want a Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupé instead? Well that'll cost you just 197k euros.

  • @gaara4667
    @gaara4667 3 года назад +18

    If you’re gonna make a hybrid car with a 4.0L V8...you’re not thinking about the planet

  • @baronvonhoughton
    @baronvonhoughton 3 года назад +9

    Rory at Autotrader taught me Porsche sold 280,000 vehicles last year. 200,000 of which were SUV's!
    Lamborghini too, sold 8000, 5000 of which were SUV.

  • @RogerBaileyOnCars
    @RogerBaileyOnCars 3 года назад +18

    one of your best videos James, from the controversial title, brutal honesty and your conveying of the cayenne experience, top stuff, I hope they ask you back !

  • @caferacer9768
    @caferacer9768 3 года назад +13

    My bicycle made the same sound with playing cards clipped to the front forks.

  • @ekkuhypponen2204
    @ekkuhypponen2204 3 года назад +8

    cmon give it some love. Coupe is not the most practical one, but it is the cool one

    • @Hali88
      @Hali88 3 года назад +2

      at least it's much better looking than the BMW equivalents

    • @ekkuhypponen2204
      @ekkuhypponen2204 3 года назад +1

      @@Hali88 true

  • @scanspeak00
    @scanspeak00 3 года назад +21

    That SUV is a complete monstrosity.

    • @paulthomson9014
      @paulthomson9014 Год назад

      They all are , the most useless pointless fashion accessories ever . I hate them all

  • @MaxStraesser
    @MaxStraesser 3 года назад +8

    As an owner of a Cayenne Coupe Turbo S E-Hybrid, I very much agree with many of the points you make. Unfortunately, like most other "practical" porsches, having the right spec really does make a difference. Without the lightweight package, for example, the car really does feel far more luxurious than in the spec you reviewed. Likewise, qualms with the boot space and rather limited electric-only range makes me think that in hindsight, after a year of living with the Cayenne, I might well have been better off with buying a BMW X5 45e and a Boxter GTS 4.0 instead of a fully-specced out Cayenne. That being said, it's a Porsche and really does feel like a proper beast, and fuel economy (when the battery is fully charged) is a decent 10L/100km on a mixed day of city and motorway driving. Oh well, I'll make a more informed decision when it's finally safe to go full (non-Tesla) EV.

    • @Orryv
      @Orryv 10 месяцев назад

      Never go ev

  • @Snapper314
    @Snapper314 Год назад +2

    There are 2 types of SUVs...
    - The kind to haul people & stuff.
    - The kind to haul @$$.
    The Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid excels at the latter.

  • @JasonWaterfalls13
    @JasonWaterfalls13 3 года назад +72

    I love Porsche, I like Cayennes a lot, I still think the idea of a coupe SUV is utterly stupid.

    • @blackduncan9812
      @blackduncan9812 3 года назад +2

      Yeah it's like tring to take a 2 seat roadster and make it as practical as suv or wagon. The type of car that a roadster is dictates that it's just not going to be that practical, and any attempts to do so will only hurt the car being a roadster.

    • @andyhunt457
      @andyhunt457 3 года назад +2

      Stupid yes but actually sells quite well.Having driven several Range Rover SVRs I'm still not convinced I would have any one of the cars in this segment.Too much of a compromise in the fun department.

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 3 года назад +3

      @@andyhunt457 Good sales of these just mean there are too many people with more cash than brains.

    • @ckneasel
      @ckneasel 3 года назад +3

      The Cayenne coupe is the best looking coupe SUV

    • @PaulTC777
      @PaulTC777 3 года назад +2

      It is made to look cool not intended as a practical car. Looks way better than an Audi Q8 (a fake SUV Coupe). Audi doesnt have the balls to design a real slooping roof line. The Q8 doesnt differ much from a Q7.

  • @Bigboss86652
    @Bigboss86652 3 года назад +14

    The first and last time porsche deal with James 🤣

    • @hjvh78ho
      @hjvh78ho 3 года назад +7

      I doubt it, Porsche will lend cars to pretty much anyone media related, the reason? because they aren't really bothered or should I say worried about what will be said. In reality this video does zero harm to Porsche it wouldn't even show up on their radar, their order books are full and they are happy to lend the press cars out and not to be seen in the same light as Mclaren for example getting upset if one person says something negative about one of their products.

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 3 года назад +14

    5 minutes in, and you're right about everything so far - including the houndstooth in a luxury car.

    • @ckneasel
      @ckneasel 3 года назад

      It’s not a “luxury” car... 🙄

  • @newbeginnings8566
    @newbeginnings8566 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for standing up and stating the reality of these vehicles.. They are heavy, save a tiny amount of energy at low speeds but guzzlers fuel at all other speeds...
    This in any world is a stupid car and I am not a Thunberg type..
    Go Toyota LandCruiser or stick to saloon / estate fast cars.. The Cayenne turbo hybrid E is really totally going nowhere..

  • @5alm0n
    @5alm0n 3 года назад +7

    I can’t understand why people would make a car of that size with 4 seats .. and a small boot

    • @hjvh78ho
      @hjvh78ho 3 года назад +1

      because it's the coupe version, want a big boot... look at the normal cayenne not the coupe. And it's done to compete with the BMW X6M etc, in the same way every other manufacturer responds when a rival carves out a new niche within an existing model lineup.

    • @5alm0n
      @5alm0n 3 года назад

      @@hjvh78ho but if you want a coupe look why not get a coupe that will drive better. Then a big coupe like box that gives you no benefits. I just can’t understand buying something that big and not being able to use the key feature of its size.

  • @MickDrivesCars
    @MickDrivesCars 3 года назад +14

    The amount of integrity this man has is phenomenal. You have a fan for life James!

  • @majortom1164
    @majortom1164 3 года назад +10

    Not a pretty thing, also that wing is really just a gimmick - you're never going to race it on a track nor drive it on a public road for it to have any real effect. It's got me beat as to why manufacturers create these 4wd behemoths and pass them off as "sports" vehicles. Want to go serious off roading - buy a landcruiser, want a spacious car that goes fast - buy an Audi RS Avant.

  • @docgramps1
    @docgramps1 3 года назад +6

    For when you want a big car, but don't want a lot of space, but also don't want it to handle like a big car. Why not just buy a car then and not an SUV?

  • @TDUTOM
    @TDUTOM 3 года назад +8

    Personally I love that spec! Colour isn’t in your face, nice contrast with the hounds tooth, wouldn’t have the carbon roof package but Id spec the alloys!
    Would love to see the spec you’d go for on one?
    Great review as always!

  • @Rhowhat
    @Rhowhat 3 года назад +14

    The Tycan looks incredible, but the idea of a turbo S hybrid is nuts. I just want a hybrid fast estate, 30-50 miles of range and ~300hp V6 engine.
    Why would you buy a 2+ tonne car with so little space? Other than to signify how much of a self absorbed person you are?

    • @Pauli-COJ
      @Pauli-COJ 3 года назад

      amen to that o/

    • @AriesUmbra
      @AriesUmbra 3 года назад +1

      the Panamera sport turismo E-hybrid is the car for you then. (330bhp from the v6 and 30+ miles of electric only range) the only problem is boot space, but it expands to 1300 litres with the seats folded down.

    • @fatfreddyscoat7564
      @fatfreddyscoat7564 3 года назад

      So they can frig the emissions figures.

    • @Pauli-COJ
      @Pauli-COJ 3 года назад

      @@AriesUmbra that would indeed be a much more sensible choice (if we take the price out of the equation).
      Harry from Harry's garage even made a video just a few days ago about that particular car i think.

    • @AriesUmbra
      @AriesUmbra 3 года назад +1

      @@Pauli-COJ yess a man of taste watching harry metcalfe. he reviewed the 's' version but the 'non s' is a massive 50 grand cheaper than this cayenne

  • @brianiswrong
    @brianiswrong 3 года назад +18

    The perfect family SUV for the person with no kids.

    • @Tential1
      @Tential1 3 года назад

      You caught me, that's why I like these very stupid SUVs. The stupider the better. An SUV coupe? sign me up. I didn't think it was going to get more ridiculous than four-door coupes

  • @martinboulden3540
    @martinboulden3540 3 года назад +7

    Trust you get invited back ! The Panamera Sports Estate is the coolest family wagon ...... and in hybrid mode is good on the P11d.

    • @mudskipper0075
      @mudskipper0075 3 года назад +2

      Exactly this regards P11d ,I came out my car lease scheme as the only options were crappy Toyota hybrids....

  • @boogboog8097
    @boogboog8097 3 года назад +10

    Other than the tax scam nobody wants to lug around 200kg of batteries in an already heavy car

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton 3 года назад +6

    At least Jayemm is honest on his reviews. That's how Jeremy Clarkson started off years ago.

    • @yammy1000
      @yammy1000 3 года назад

      DoubleDeckerAnton by that I assume you mean a huge dislike for Porsche?

  • @LeytonC
    @LeytonC 3 года назад +5

    I thought the only reason for the hybrid tech on those type of cars was to reduce road tax and stop paying the congestion charge? Maybe that is not the case now.
    Great video! Looking forward to the other one.

  • @NH00531
    @NH00531 3 года назад +2

    Never been particularly into Porsches, so only watched this video because of the title. Wasn’t disappointed, great presentation, entertaining and as unbiased as ever. 👍

  • @dwade3202
    @dwade3202 3 года назад +5

    Why buy cayenne when panamera exists ? Nobody will off road a cayenne, so a wagon panamera is 100% a better choice

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 3 года назад

      Not all countries have nice smooth roads. You'd be appalled at how bad roads are in southern Italy for instance. Only an SUV makes sense here and indeed nobody buys a 911 as it would be suicide.

    • @nathant8951
      @nathant8951 3 года назад

      @@visionist7 But an SUV with 22 inch wheels and ultra low profile tyres is still not going to be any good.

  • @nugget3030
    @nugget3030 3 года назад +9

    It sounds like an old tractor with the engine running away on its own oil

    • @cheesyeurotrance95
      @cheesyeurotrance95 3 года назад +1

      was going to say the same, sounds like it's misfiring

  • @TDS981
    @TDS981 3 года назад +7

    I had a cayenne S the other week and was amazed at how well it handled, enjoyed the 2.9v6 too. But it was only after I'd finished filming that it dawned on me that the mpg was unacceptable for the type of car. The diesel engines before were more suitable for carting the family, bikes and the kitchen sink around.

  • @mavainfigatomareva
    @mavainfigatomareva 3 года назад +25

    The real problem that I find with cars such as this is that clearly there is a market commanding for them, which comes from a general lack of eductaion, sense of responsibility and good taste among nowadays customers.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 года назад

      Yup, stupid cars exist because stupid people buy them...as a Porsche owner myself I've had couple of Cayenne/Macan drivers give me a thumbs up. They get a disparaging chuckle in return (no rude gestures or anything they can see, they are being nice to me after all!).

    • @andyhunt457
      @andyhunt457 3 года назад

      That's the same question as what came first the chicken or the egg.If I recall nobody asked for SUVs it was some fool in marketing who came up with the idea...think Nissan led the charge
      ....damn them 😁

    • @jmcarbone2754
      @jmcarbone2754 3 года назад +2

      Without the Cayenne and Macan, I doubt there would still be a 911 or even a Porsche. Perhaps we should thank these uneducated masses.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 года назад +1

      ​@@jmcarbone2754 Porsche made an SUV to appeal to all the people buying SUVs- if those people were buying saloons or hatchbacks instead then it seems certain Porsche would have made one of those.
      It's fair not to blame the manufacturer for making a product people want, it's the consumers who don't need to buy unnecessarily large and inefficient vehicles.

  • @Subixee
    @Subixee 3 года назад +6

    Finally!!!! Have been waiting for you to review Porsche!!!! ♥️♥️

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 3 года назад +2

    This is a good car review. Very critical and objective.
    This is the problem for VAG, how can they make the 'product differentiation' ?

  • @Bikemad24
    @Bikemad24 3 года назад +5

    Sounds like it’s power’s by brigs and Stratton

  • @blackwallstreet6610
    @blackwallstreet6610 Год назад +1

    I love how he kept complaining about it until he started driving it 😂😂

  • @mstelios4259
    @mstelios4259 3 года назад +23

    This car epitomizes everything that is wrong with humanity!

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 3 года назад +7

    Coupė, sport, and SUV have no business being in the same model name. Utterly ridiculous idea. Car makers seem to just invent niche models to make money from, as you say JayEmm, "people with more money than sense".

  • @fatfreddyscoat7564
    @fatfreddyscoat7564 3 года назад +18

    So it’s basically to tick a box, frig the emissions figures and appeal to director level company car drivers?
    And those seats are horrendous, but no doubt you can specify full leather for about £5k (for basically the seat backs and base). And is it me or does the car sound like the exhausts are blowing rather than having a deep, bass V8 boom?

  • @lolakyle8
    @lolakyle8 3 года назад +6

    I love that V8 growl sound!

  • @kenzohkw
    @kenzohkw 3 года назад +4

    Can you also tell Porsche to adjust the headlights on their SUVs properly so that don't blind all of us that don't want to drive a high rise 2.3ton pothole creator pls.

  • @john2357
    @john2357 3 года назад +1

    I strongly disagree with your point about the boot:
    The Cayenne coupe boot is a generous 600 litres - this is only 50 litres less than the X5 and 90 litres less than the regular GLE... quite a modest disadvantage for a much sleeker looking car!
    The only reason why the Cayenne coupe boot seems smaller is that the regular Cayenne and its mechanical twin the Q7 have gigantic boots of 750 litres which are by far the largest in class.
    So put differently, yes the Cayenne coupe is substantially less practical than the regular Cayenne, but not much less practical than key competitors (that are much clumsier looking)

  • @MoJoAssets
    @MoJoAssets 2 года назад +1

    Very odd fault finding, when both main criticisms are easily overcome by choosing another interior (goodness knows there are lots), and the normal Cayenne body instead of the coupe.

  • @steveberridge4648
    @steveberridge4648 3 года назад +1

    A great review - it’s just honest. You clearly enjoyed driving it but weren’t afraid to call it out for it’s numerous faults and all those on here commenting that you hate porsches forget that you owned a 996 and loved it.....

  • @mawaboutcars671
    @mawaboutcars671 3 года назад +2

    Driving through Banbury! Every time I watch a video where I recognise the location really makes me envious. Invite me next time - Mitchell

    • @newbeginnings8566
      @newbeginnings8566 3 года назад

      Put the floor down to avoid seeing Banbury would be good advice....

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 3 года назад +3

    What can this do better, than a Panemera estate? I really can't think of anything.....

    • @john2357
      @john2357 3 года назад +1

      You sit higher up, which the market seems to be crazy about at the moment, but other than that I agree. Except that the Panamera is quite a bit pricier

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 3 года назад

      @@john2357 good taste has no price ;)

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm 3 года назад +1

    Over here where cars are severly taxed by their emissions ratings a Turbs S E--Hybrid Coupe has car tax of 10 649 euros while the regular Turbo Coupe has car tax of 122 293 euros. The regular e-Hybrid is easily the cheapest model despite having 120hp more than the regular coupe

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 3 года назад +1

      What country is charging the cost of a house to tax a car and why hasn't everybody abandoned that country to die?

  • @KLUTCHdot58
    @KLUTCHdot58 3 года назад +2

    Must play this again through decent speakers. On my laptop it sounds like my mother in law's VW fox when the exhaust fell off.

  • @BrianFraser
    @BrianFraser 3 года назад +2

    I'd rather the Cayenne than the BMW X6 thingy or the similarly shaped Mercs

  • @diluxe
    @diluxe 3 года назад +1

    Along with thecarguys channel I really appreciate he honesty of this channel which should surely win it some long term subscribers .

  • @5alm0n
    @5alm0n 3 года назад +2

    Do porches put an option to buy a trailer to make up for the boot space ?

  • @robc6391
    @robc6391 3 года назад +7

    This car is the definition of an oxymoron in today's automotive industry. It wants to be everything and achieves being nothing for a lot and I mean a lot of money. SUV with no ground clearance, no practicality (limited storage space and seating options). A sports car with e-hybrid and massive weight. And has all those marketing vomit-inducing cringy things. Like carbon roof + alcantara steering wheel + massive rims aka sports package on a car that is not sporty at all, touchscreens and glossy surfaces everywhere etc. Coupe SUV.... again Coupe SUV. What the hell is this segment anyway? :D Just no Porsche. No.

    • @dedge12858
      @dedge12858 3 года назад +1

      All you say is true but if they can sell them it's all moot.

    • @baronvonhoughton
      @baronvonhoughton 3 года назад

      Its Ugly af too.

    • @insayn7995
      @insayn7995 2 года назад

      It brings in the money for the 911, and as a Porsche enthusiast that’s all I could care about.

    • @chrisbroome9937
      @chrisbroome9937 2 года назад +2

      I could NOT disagree more. These luxury/sport SUV Crossover type vehicles are perfect...because they can do pretty much anything. Easy to get in and out of, comfortable for long distance driving, 0-60 times and even lap times that rival supercars (especially when talking about the Cayenne Turbo GT), AWD makes them good in winter, and they are able to carry 4 people, groceries, and golf clubs, while pulling a trailer. Getting ALL of that in one package is amazing.
      Sure, a Ferrari might be a little faster, an minivan might be able to carry more people, a diesel truck might be better at towing, and a Jeep may be better at going offroad. So sure, you can find individual vehicles that specialize in one "skill" better than these Crossovers. But if someone only wants one vehicle that can do everything damn good, this is the way to go.

  • @austinedwards1918
    @austinedwards1918 3 года назад +1

    A porsche cayenne is a Porsche not an Audi or a range rover. Design has to be respective to the model. It cannot be other than what it is. It's all to do with the design.

  • @oliverranderson9292
    @oliverranderson9292 3 года назад +4

    Does anyone else remember looking at the prices and specs in the back of the old top gear magazines (2004-2007), the max price of the rangerover or any fast suv then was around £70k, I remember seeing mid range 911s being around 50-60k, how has the automotive industry got away with these rip off price hikes of over 200/300% 😳

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 3 года назад +2

    Sounds like the exhaust manifold is cracked.

  • @atomicdave1987
    @atomicdave1987 3 года назад +1

    I'll probably get called a heathen but I quite like this, although I'd like to see how it compares in terms of practicality to the non-coupe version

  • @grahamjones2759
    @grahamjones2759 3 года назад +1

    Drive the non-coupe and non-hybrid version with 3 passengers and 2 dogs plus a week's worth of luggage on a 600 mile round trip to Skye. This car makes perfect sense then.

  • @DivineFrag
    @DivineFrag 3 года назад +1

    The Cayenne Coupe might be built on the same platform as the Q7, but in terms of design it's identical to the Q8 which means comparing it to the Q7 is somewhat misleading. This is a car that perfectly fits between the X6/Q8 and the Urus, more-so competing with the SQ8 or RSQ8 while offering something different.

  • @tuomasholo
    @tuomasholo 3 года назад +2

    EU emission rules necessitated Porsche to lower emissions. It’s a clever way of meeting draconian rules

  • @JacobYarr
    @JacobYarr 3 года назад +3

    It might have some problems, but it bloody sounds great!

  • @MW-gi1tr
    @MW-gi1tr 3 года назад +2

    Would much rather have a Maserati Levante Trofeo

  • @eggbirdtherooster
    @eggbirdtherooster 3 года назад +1

    Maybe.. but 1000 times more tasteful than a bloody X6!

  • @adamlowe1072
    @adamlowe1072 3 года назад +1

    so one of these or an Audi RS Q8 Vorsprung?

  • @austinedwards1918
    @austinedwards1918 3 года назад +1

    I would be happy with this car if I wanted this design or if I wanted something else. It's all relative to what the buyer wants based on the need and wants for any particular car.

  • @cdnatural4316
    @cdnatural4316 2 года назад +2

    It's becuase he knows he can't get one and talks crap about porsche
    I'm just saying that I'm the biggest porsche fan period
    No one disses porsche.

  • @SouthernLocks
    @SouthernLocks 7 месяцев назад +2

    How do you review a e-hybrid and don't mention you are getting 700 horses at 43miles per gallon 😂

  • @cme2cau
    @cme2cau 3 года назад +1

    does this dodge emissions charges?

  • @kyleholloway3470
    @kyleholloway3470 3 года назад +1

    Love the snap, crackle and pop from the exhaust.

  • @grahamhgraham
    @grahamhgraham 3 года назад

    Possibly your best review yet- simple, straight to the point brutal honesty. And this concept of reluctantly liking a car you had previously decided to mock is surely grounds for a sub series of similar ridiculous cars which logic would suggest are rubbish but somehow intoxicating. Am I the only one who likes the sound this thing makes? You do know the exhaust drools like Jimmy Saville hovering outside a school playground?

  • @ericspeakstruth6308
    @ericspeakstruth6308 Год назад +1

    This guy is a hater on Porsche. This vehicle is amazing. I spend very little in fuel and it is very responsive. Interior is beyond comfortable. Handles brilliantly.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  Год назад

      Did you think I said the vehicle was not amazing? Pretty sure I said it drove great

  • @AdamRandomCollections
    @AdamRandomCollections 3 года назад +1

    I find it extremely hypocritical to call this car ‘stupid’ in a world where the bentayga, the cullinan, the urus, the Dbx, the x6M , the G63AMG and the SVR get good praises!!! I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion after all. Personally, I don’t look at this car as a “4x4” i look at it as a proper supercar that happens to have 5 seats and a large boot. So, What’s not to like!

  • @nikomoin7604
    @nikomoin7604 3 года назад +2

    Its not only unpractical, but also ugly as hell

  • @backseatcovers
    @backseatcovers 3 года назад

    I think one good thing about SUVs is their higher boot floor - because unlike in estates and hatchbacks you don't have to bend down to put stuff like groceries in. Try that! Plus in a car such as this practicality is only secondary to looking cool, stylish, modern, "making a statement", all these things.

  • @thedetailingdoctor5746
    @thedetailingdoctor5746 3 года назад

    I’m saying the Bentley bentayga 2021 is the top of the chain in terms of luxury suv. Had one in last week and omg that interior is wow

  • @4pevans
    @4pevans 3 года назад +3

    Thank you James... I must say that my lawn mower has a better sounding exhaust though

  • @SamAustin
    @SamAustin 3 года назад +1

    That noise! 🤩 Great video as always.....loved the title 😂

  • @FrldyZX87
    @FrldyZX87 3 года назад +1

    Coupe? I see no coupe. Damn marketers lol. It's not just Porsche but this thing has about every new car trend that I hate about modern cars.

    • @hjvh78ho
      @hjvh78ho 3 года назад

      You don't see the sloping rear roofline then?? the actual definition of a coupe?? what would you need to see to make it a coupe in your eyes?? apart obviously from having 2 doors not 4.

  • @daviddenley3512
    @daviddenley3512 3 года назад

    👏👏👏 The smile on your face says everything any of us need to know, my...how your views changed. Take care James...don't let the Bug Bite!

  • @willmaddox1986
    @willmaddox1986 3 года назад +1

    Personal I think this interior looks really good

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 3 года назад +1

    I really don't give any crap about electric of hybrid cars. I'm only here for JayEmm.

    • @LeytonC
      @LeytonC 3 года назад +1

      and the shirts! :D

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 3 года назад +1

      @@LeytonC That's a given.

  • @williamrobinson7270
    @williamrobinson7270 3 года назад

    What about X5 M and GLE 63S in your comparison? How did that miss consideration?

  • @Bmontepeque11
    @Bmontepeque11 7 месяцев назад

    Absolutely, I have never liked Sports SUVs because I have never understood why if I wanted to have fun why I wouldn't buy you know, a Sports Car.
    And if I wanted/needed an SUV why wouldn't I want it to have the most practicality and comfort?
    This in a Luxurious Spec I would absolutely understand, but this in an aggresive, track like spec? It's just an oxymoron.

  • @ckneasel
    @ckneasel 3 года назад +2

    This “hefty” fella simply hates Porsche... 🙄
    Drive the fucking thing first before you tear it down...

  • @Polarskates
    @Polarskates 3 года назад +1

    The likes were at 911 when I arrived, really didn’t want to give the video a thumbs up 👍🏻

  • @Michael_NV
    @Michael_NV 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Jay! This car fits you perfectly. Excellent review. I'm thinking about one of these, but not coupe - the "normal" one.

  • @brogenville
    @brogenville 3 года назад +2

    Why would you compare it to a Q7? It’s anolagous to a Q8.
    Anyway, I agree. What pointless boat of a thing.

  • @modskillen
    @modskillen 3 года назад +1

    With you it weighs 2.5 tons... gj!

  • @SponzoTV
    @SponzoTV 3 года назад

    Like you....I dont like SUV’s....however, I had the chance to drive the full range of Porsche SUV’s on track a while back.
    I didn’t like the Cayenne Turbo SE Hybrid on the racetrack, as it was way too soft and wobbly (no comparison to your road-test)
    My big surprise of the bunch was the Macan GTS which was really sporty, composed and sounded great....I really wouldn’t have thought that, and i generally don’t like the Macan
    Would be interesting to see what you make of it on the road....could it be the sporty sweet spot within Porsche’s SUV range?

  • @roadmantop3769
    @roadmantop3769 3 года назад +1

    This is constructive criticism, you ain’t wrong, and Porsche should think about these points 👍

  • @termit520
    @termit520 3 года назад +1

    It seems like today is very fancy to call something a hybrid if it has a million HP V8 and a 2 HP electric.....thing.....that's far from hybrid. By the way, for that amount of money i would rather buy a new G class G400d and i would have a real good old off road german monster bread box with a more luxury interior and much more famous exterior for sure.
    Anyway, good video, like

    • @plektosgaming
      @plektosgaming 3 года назад

      The big Mercedes G wagons are amazing and can actually do off-road unlike almost all "AWD" systems that have their computers panic all too often. And, there's also the issue with visibility. The Porsche/Audi/whatever turbo XXL Mk 2.0 E- whatever just looks like everything else. Nothing stands out in it, and yes, this one was even silver. If I spent that much money on a vehicle, I'd want it to stand out as, well, being a bit expensive. This honestly looks as forgettable as the SUVs Hyundai is putting out. You could put police badges on it and nobody would notice the officer right next to them bland. The Range Rover looks iconic, as does the G Wagon. And you can put a ton of stuff in them/get them muddy/still look like money when cleaned up afterwards.

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry 3 года назад +1

    Love the carbon roof. Best way to lower the centre of gravity of an SUV? Buy a proper car instead. Porsche, builder of sports cars...selling a massive, heavy and pointless SUV. Front looks boring too. This car may not be bad, but it comes with 1 huge question- why not buy a Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S e-Hybrid? Not only do you get an even longer name, you get a better car with it.
    All that said, nothing wrong with performance and eco credentials- the GS450h I used to own would get close to 50mpg on a run (I managed 67 once with a bit of hypermiling) and yet going from a 30- to a 60 it will drop pretty much anything. I reckon it's better to drive than any Cayenne as well. That's not bias on my part- I only own 1 car right now and it's a Porsche.

  • @KS-vv5fb
    @KS-vv5fb 3 года назад

    Have you tested the Turbo/GTS Macan, or can you, its Porsche best selling car. Can you talk about residuals as well, some people think these things are important to consider.

  • @MRFUCKOFF202
    @MRFUCKOFF202 3 года назад

    So much preferred the old interior with that beautiful array of buttons and no glossy touch bullshit

  • @mattylf1
    @mattylf1 3 года назад

    Looks and sounds great, but I’ve never got the whole coupe SUV thing. I’m looking at the normal cayenne for when I finally change my Range Rover Sport that I’ve owned for the last 12 years. I’d miss the space in the back, not to mention 3 seats in the back.

  • @997turbo2
    @997turbo2 Год назад

    Dear Mr. Jay, can I highlight a case for you? During the past years when I decided to get a car often I found my self looking at med range cars for example 640i or 650i not the M6, cayenne or cayenne S, cars that is sold in big numbers not a top of the range cars that cost a house to buy, and often I find no reviews have been done to those cars by professionals, often I found an advertiser highlighting the company history then a few things about the car then here you go, this is the case with most the actual cars most people buy, may I suggest you open another channel dedicated to those kind of cars and when you do review please review the whole line, example BMW 320i, 330i and 340i, I don’t know if my suggestion will add some value or not its for you to decide, 💐

    • @997turbo2
      @997turbo2 Год назад

      Actually i am looking to buy the higher standard the the standard cayenne which is a cayenne S coupe with the standard manufacturer equipment 😂 that means to me I got the upgraded car 😂, and I wonder would it worthy that asking price by Porsche ? and how much satisfaction i will get from it ? I definitely cannot afford the buy the GTS neither the higher range cars those cars are exclusive and to be honest for a daily driver I don’t think they offer that much of difference to the cayenne S, so what the standard cayenne S is like to drive?

  • @BenB91
    @BenB91 3 года назад +1

    Spot on. Porsche have lost the plot with this car.

    • @sirfriendzone1228
      @sirfriendzone1228 3 года назад

      The reason they can continue to build 911 GT3's among many other cars is because they sell so many of these.
      THAT'S the plot... 🤷‍♂️

  • @wads80z
    @wads80z 3 года назад +1

    It sounds like an 80s V6 with only manifolds, no exhaust. Awful!