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Although to fit you might have to change Captain America into Captain Neverwinter, I think this is a great way to pull off another marvel build in Dungeons & Dragons. Also if you put him in the right party, you can pretty easily pull off over 176 damage just on your turn, even without any sort of critical hit or Max dice rolled.
If you're in the Forgotten Realms, you could always try the name Captain Harper, the Zhentarim would make an excellent Hydra substitute 😎
The Book of many things has the Boomerang Shield as a magic item. This build is now officially complete.
Okay... Hear me out because this is weird... Give Cap a few cleric levels and make his *spiritual weapon* a shield that flies out and hits people.
I think that's actually not a bad idea, especially with the quick little line he mentions about his religious beliefs when Thor and Loki are referred to as gods
One problem with that is it doesn't return to you. It just floats in the air until the next round. But I do like the out of box thinking. Personally, I like the catapult spell for these types of returning weapons, along with EK's weapon bond. Like Thor's hammer. True, you need some way to mitigate damage to the thrown weapon or eventually the shield will break, and you need the shield to be classified as a weapon (a bashing shield?) It works better with Thor. If you're going to homebrew a magic shield, make it both throwing and returning.
That could feat james rogers better due to his holographic shield
Also, since he's got the leadership qualities/presence that gives other heroes hope (buffs/healing)
i think it would be a good idea to give him the feat inspiring leader, it gives your allies temporary hit points after you make a 10 minute speech
I would never thought of banneret, It fits perfectly
Glad you like it, I always forget that subclass even exists, but it really just felt right for Cap'
OMG Purple Dragon Knight! Such an underrated class.
It really is, especially if you're in a solid party that might have one or two rogues, it really is a great leader of a group
@@dndbuilds Plus it's the coolest subclass name.
It's underrated but still not great 😅 I'd play it any day though.
I have done a Captain America build that I THINK generally gets the feeling of Captain America, but admittedly it requires some reflavoring (not homebrewing, just reflavoring) and some creativity to avoid being a MAD build.
So, like you, I had him be a Variant Human with the Soldier for his Background and Shield Master for my free Feat. But as far as classes go, I went with 8 Battle Master Fighter/4 Hexblade Warlock/8 Oath of Glory Paladin. Starting Stats (with those free +1s) were 13 STR 13 DEX 14 CON 8 INT 10 WIS 16 CHA. By the end, final stats were 14 STR 14 DEX 14 CON 8 INT 10 WIS 20 CHA. I used Athlete and Resilient (DEX) to round up the STR and DEX. I went for Hexblade so I could use CHA for attacking and spellcasting, seeing it as the super soldier serum, and reflavored Eldritch Blast as the shield throw given its force damage. Then I had the Tough Feat to bump up his HP along with Inspiring Leader to give that whole “AVENGERS, ASSEMBLE!” feel. Plus, with a Light Hammer as my Hex Weapon, figure that works when he has Mjolnir and I can get some lightning spells like Lightning Lure and Witch Bolt from Warlock plus Divine Smite to simulate strikes with Mjolnir. And then finally the Paladin Auras for Cap’s morale boosting abilities. Then I figure you can take some of the more supportive Combat Manuevers and ones that can be added to skill checks to make up for Cap’s lower INT and WIS. Like I said, it’s a bit all over the place, and requires some creative thinking, but in the end gives you almost everything Cap gets
It is definitely a more complicated way to build Captain America, but I really like the overall way that you built it out, especially using Eldritch blast in place of shield throws I think that was really good idea. Especially since in D&D it takes an action to equip or unequip your shield, and that is a little rough to deal with when the character focuses so much on throwing that shield.
@@dndbuilds Thank you! Your build I do think does well for going purely Captain America without any of the stuff from Mjolnir or anything like that 👍🏻
I didn’t even know that was a Subclass! I chose Samurai so that he can get advantage on weapon attacks and gain temporary HP. But another great build! It could be cool if you did Hawkeye or Black Widow next.
I'm definitely going to be doing both Hawkeye and black widow eventually, I feel like it's only inevitable for me to wind up doing pretty much all of the avengers. And I totally forgot this subclass existed as well, because almost nobody ever really uses them. Because they're not really for the glory for themselves they're really much more about the team as a whole.
Also that subclass is actually the more generic name for the "Purple Dragon Knight" from Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide but otherwise it's the same. Which I realize I forgot to mention, and TOTALLY could have played on the fact that Red and Blue make Purple for the Purple Dragon Knight... missed the golden opportunity.
Amazing! Your builds somehow bring together an accurate, viable, and fun version of the character. Very well done sir!
Thanks!!! Such a comprehensive compliment, I'm very happy with this build especially.
I was thinking on Eldritch Knight for the returning weapon, but again you suprised me with Banneret
I think as an overall leader of the party it fits pretty well, and if you somehow wind up with two rogues in the party you can wind up with another action for yourself to use, and allowed two rogues to pull off sneak attacks
@@dndbuilds Black Widow.could be a Scout Rogue or battlemaster
@@chrimedina I love scout rogue because they're one of the few rogue subclasses that can use sneak attack more than once on their own turn. But it would be hard not to give some credit to her overall training so I would definitely be a bit torn about going scout. But I definitely agree with throwing in some Battle Master maneuvers
If it weren't for the fact that you technically can't apply an artificer's weapon infusions on improvised weapons, I'd be down for that Returning Weapon idea. I also can't imagine that Captain America would have at least some maneuvers. With how he fights, he seems to trip people up all the time, among other things. It doesn't help that there's like two Martial Archetypes that let you naturally gain two fighting styles without investing in a feat? Otherwise, I would have found a way to get Superior Technique and Martial Adept.
I was definitely tempted to grab Martial adept, so I wouldn't be surprised if anybody else tried to use this build if they made that little tweak
With two new magic items now available: Boomerang Shield (Source: The Book of Many Things) giving you the ability to throw a shield as a ranged attack and Insignia of Claws (Source: Tyranny of Dragons) giving your unarmed strikes and natural weapons to be considered as magical, would you consider a revision of your Captain America build? The Fighter: Banneret is the perfect class for this build.
There is a common magic item in Zanathars guide the let you doth Armor as a bonus action.
I'm not overly familiar with that item, there's so many items especially in some of the newer books that I just haven't had the chance to comb through every single one
@@dndbuilds
Never mind. "Cast off Armor" does not change the doff time for a shield 🛡️. It remains a action.
@@davidberkowitz7411 damn that would have been nice to have
Just watch this, awesome build. I loved it. In my head I thought Monk Kensei, they can pick a range weapon as a Monk Weapon choose a boomerang and make it look like shield. It won’t add to your AC but you can always role play that you can block with it. At least you are able to attack with it.
That is an interesting way to go about it, I feel like monks are great when you want to picture something thematically cool, you can really turn your imagination into a kung fu movie
@@dndbuilds My inner thoughts works in strange ways, thanks for thinking as an interesting way.
Intelligence being a dump stat sure but I think caps got an old school wisdom that can grow
Thank you for the build.
This is an excellent view point. Big Rogers fan. Tjank you for this video
I'm so happy to hear you like it, after not being able to upload last week, I'm pretty happy with the results of this one.
I think this nails the skills and abilities really well. Banneret is the perfect choice. And you convinced me that Fighter makes more sense than Paladin (though I wouldn't mind seeing an alternate attempt at that).
My only quibble is with stats. I don't think Cap should be that high in the physical stats. Traditionally in comics, he's considered above peak human, but not on par with mutants, Asgardians, magical beings, etc. To me, if think of Thor as a 20 STR, then Cap can't be a 20. I would put Cap's max stats at something like 16 STR, 18 DEX, 18 CON, 10 INT, 8 WIS, 12 CHA. I would also treat the armor as light armor -- yes, he's technically wearing scale in the comics, but in the context of Marvel technology, its really more analogous to leather in the DnD world.
Cool video. I haven't played RPGs in a long time, but somehow this tapped my interest. I'm going to check out some of your others.
Yeah I can agree on the stats front, only issue is that stats benefit both your chance to hit, and how hard you hit, so I feel like his accuracy is top notch even if he's not as strong as other Mutants and Thor. Although with that stat spread, we could still dump a few more areas, and REALLY go wild with the Feats, which would have been plenty of fun.
Glad I could peak your interest, I just like doing plenty of DnD related stuff, so I'm happy I can share that with others.
@@dndbuilds AI wouldn't mind seeing you do the whole Cap family of characters -- Winter Soldier (rogue/fighter mix?), USAgent (Battlemaster instead of Banneret Cap build?), Zemo (noble bard?), Red Skull (fighter artificer mix?), etc.
To be fair, I'm not sure if PC physicals really scale to be *too* crazy even at max ability scores, especially not Marvel crazy. For instance you can never *really* make a PC Hulk for instance because a movies accurate Hulk should be like a Tarrasque on steroids at bare minimum (and then comics Hulk would be BEYOND unobtainable). So imo if we're factoring like the lifting/carrying from just Strength score, technically even a 20 STR doesn't even suffice to match MCU Cap's strength. 600lbs lifting vs him apparently being able to lift upwards to 10 tons (20,000 lbs) in the movies. Not even close. (Also in regards to peak human stats, means at bare minimum, comics Cap should probably match Benedikt Magnússon who breached 1,000lbs)
@@getschwifty5537 This is a good point. I agree that a lot of comic book characters would be more demi-gods in a DnD context. But I brought up Thor because he did another video on a Thor build.
For what its worth, I think this is still the best build that's been done on this channel. Its a masterpiece of multiverse translation.
I think you should make one for Gorr the God Butcher since the new movie comes out in a week and 4 days or maybe even Mighty Thor but if you did both of them I'd like to see Gorr first considering he's one of the most powerful villains imo in the Marvel Comics, he's also just really cool
I could give it a shot. I did give Thor a build recently, but I'd have to look into Gorr a bit to understand him a bit better.
@@dndbuildscarnage or knull would be really amazing.
Skip Tavern Brawler and work with your DM and an artificer friend to have a thrown 1d6 damage shield that returns to your shieldarm :X. Just keep his other hand free and as a DM I'd have no issues with it.
As a DM I'd be fine with it too just gotta make sure I include those options for the less cool DMs 😉
This is surprisingly good. With a +3 shield, your defenses are good. If your DM allows the same bonus to hit and for damage, you're doing 1D8 (not bad) + 8 (really good). So, your top-end damage isn't the best but your average is nice and you don't have to worry about the occasional 1. It's a shame that the basic Monk class is so restricted because Flurry of Blows seems like it would fit a melee Cap very well.
I'd swap out protection for unarmed, they way he fights is usually shield in the off-hand with the main hand balled into a fist while the shield itself is used as utility, he doesn't only hit you with his shield, infact the first issue of him had the cover of him punching hitler so he's more of a brawler who shoves people around. The only real time he uses it for damage is when he's throwing it. Also for those of you who don't know what banneret is? you can do battlemaster instead and pick manuevers that help your party and control the enemy's movement.
That probably would have been a pretty solid choice
@@dndbuilds thenks
You can really do this all day!
With that much constitution, absolutely
Please do a punisher build!
Banneret is such a good choice thematically, I just wish it worked better mechanically
I wasn't aware that the Banneret was a thing, I knew literally every other subclass, but I was surprised to hear about this one.
It's actually the more generic name for the "Purple Dragon Knight" from Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide but otherwise it's the same. Which I realize I forgot to mention, and TOTALLY could have played on the fact that Red and Blue make Purple for the Purple Dragon Knight... damn, missed the opportunity.
You need a shield that acts like a Dwarven Thrower when thrown. DT is very rare. Just make it Legendary. When you're holding it it's a +3 Shield, when you throw it it has the DT thrown properties. Alternatively you could have it be a Defender, gaining it's full +3 to AC when held, acts as a DT when thrown. It would actually be a cool item on its own, but something like this is ideal for Cap.
I would had picked the thrown weapon fighting style for the quick draw and extra damage as when not using his shield. Possibly when using his shield if the DM will concede it is an improvised thrown weapon. I would also have goten Medium armor Mastery instead of boosting Dex
Only issue is that Thrown Weapon can only apply if the weapon has the Thrown property... I'm sure most DM's would allow it, I just do most of my builds with a rules lawyer at the table in mind lol (even if I would allow all sorts of stuff personally)
I reflavored a shield as a javelin that deals bludgeoning damage.
Saw this video earlier today, and I've been thinking about it.
One question I have, is there a reason we have such high dex, when we're speccing into heavy armor? I thought those two would clash with each other.
Dex still helps with dex saves, acrobatics, and general defensive abilities
Caps shield could be done easily
attach a bunch of boomerangs to the shield and youd be find
I looked on D&D beyond for Banneret but the closest I could find was purple Dragon Knight
Yeah they're the same thing, but the purple dragon night is the name for it when it's in a very specific setting, in the description for purple dragon night it states that they're more commonly known as the banneret in the DnD universe
@@dndbuilds okay thanks
You should do a Luther Strode build I have a working one 1 level barbarian 19 levels way of the drunken master v. human with the fighting initiate unarmed fight technique and tavern brawler.
I think I would have still gone battlemaster as all those things can be done with manoeuvres. Like rally and commanders strike.
Ok...
Green Goblin in Dungeons and Dragons?
You forgot the skill for race
How would you make USAgent? Conquest paladin or something similar?
Considering his main purpose is public relations I would say charisma is definitely a major part of the build so I would definitely say that you're on the right track and go with something like conquest paladin.
Could you do Ezio from assassins creed
Could this be used for Soldier Boy from The Boys?
8:20 what an odd adition.
the picture or the feature?
Jane Foster.
Spiderman looks natural, but a drawn character in the middle of live action looks weird.
Can you do the Hunter from Bloodborne?
I think that would be pretty doable... Especially since FromSoft has been chatting about another game already, I think that would definitely be worth popping into
I definitely want to see a Rambo build
A traumatized soldier that has incredible survival skill, I think I could pull that off.
@@dndbuilds I think it's gonna have to be a multi class though isn't it? Because Rambo's too good at hand to hand to be just a rogue
@@andrewbledsoe3722 definitely have to be a bit of a mix, maybe some ranger for the extra survival. Rogue for sneak attack, then maybe even some fight to top it off.
@@dndbuilds well hopefully you do a vid on it, I can't wait to see it if you do
did you consider a kenobi or vader build now that the kenobi show is over?
Funny you mention it... I literally just recorded something about that yesterday... so that may be a bit of a spoiler for what's coming soon. But I still need to do all the editing for it
I was with it until CHA 8. America's Ass deserves better
Honestly I think he's got stellar CHA, he just doesn't know how to use it with anyone other than Peggy
@@dndbuilds Eeeehhh.... I wouldn't say so, he made Sersi confess about Eternals affair just by looking at her; Prior to this Tony and Sersi were going in a back and forth, and she was mostly being snarky.
He is one of the very very few people that Gladiator (Whose whole power revolves around him being prideful) respects. Gladiator gave Steve the role to lead an entire armada against the Builders (Being that helped shape the galaxy) in a losing war; They won that war in the end because of CA leading the war.
But I guess a penalty on deception kind of works.
The dump on wisdom hurts though. When the phoenix boosted Steve's powers he didn't become stronger; What happened was that he just continues to stand up even after getting beaten, he doesn't heal, but he keeps getting back up. The manifestation of this power comes in the form of his old skinny self, his willpower is his power (The whole I can do this all day).
@@boxtupos7718 valid point, either way I was using point buy from players handbook and I really just didn't have any more points to use
I agree and the only way I would make it different, was if the DM is really working with you and allow the shield to count either as a weapon with the thrown property via Tavern Brawler, or you choose Monk (since Captain America is not THAT strong and fights with his agility, like a Monk or someone with a finesse weapon) and the DM allows you to have it be a monk weapon (via Kensei Weapon) and choose if for both the weapon choices, once as melee and once as ranged (which means you even give up the choice of another weapon, as a flavor). Since Captain America in the comics works as a comic book artist/illustrator, the Way of the Brush feature also works well. It does not fit very well to his character, but with a two level dip into Artificer he can infuse his own shield, because another Artificer might need that infusion, rendering the shield without it less useful. Since it is enough to take 6 levels in Monk (because the feature Sharpen the Blade at level 11 does not work with a magic weapon with an attack and damage bonus, which a shield infused with Returning Weapon will be), you still have 12-14 levels to put into Fighter. I know that will f*** up the ability scores (because of the needed Wisdom) and make Unarmored Defense worthless, but hey, I just wanted something different (even though, if the DM would deem the shield to be ok as a finesse weapon, everything would be much easier).
Can you do the Doom Slayer next?
I've been thinking about him lately, especially with the kick ass soundtrack with the latest Doom, I will definitely do him at some point
@@dndbuilds :D keep making these videos, I love them!
@@jugushes thanks I really appreciate it it's great to hear that kind of feedback 😁
Why not use the feat martial adept? #sadbois
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This goes a little to much into his combat. Captain is THE captain when it comes to battle and strategy even Ironman will throw away his arrogance while in battle because he knows captain is the best at what he does. so dumping his mental stats doesn't make sense
I know I felt rough dumping some of the mental stuff, but there's only so many points to go around with standard point buy in 5th edition
All those ability score increases..for gods sake fix his charisma
YESSSSSSSZZZZZZSSSS
Glad you approved that I finally uploaded this one, considering you were one of the people recommending it LOL
@@dndbuilds the build is awesome man! But your forgot the extra skill from Variant human, I would recommend acrobatics
@@gabrielmarques5257 yeah I actually threw one onto the character sheet that I posted on my patreon, because I realized I didn't add it into the video, I also threw in an additional language since I had forgotten that as well.
These builds suck but fun stuff
It's very rare that optimize builds wind up being super fun if you're not in a party that's filled with other optimized builds, so something more like this where you're just playing towards the theme of the character can often be a bit more of an enjoyable character to play
The charisma dumping makes 0 sense that should be his highest stat
Well I made some reasoning for it, that he doesn't really know how to use his charisma, but I know he is charismatic, and really there's only so many points to go around with standard point buy, so something's gotta give.
@DnD Builds oh ok that makes sense, these videos are great
@@majikss yeah it wasn't until more recently that I made a point of saying that this was thanks to point buy, but I see how it would have been helpful to point it out much sooner in my videos
Bit late, I know, but build Ninja Gaiden.