Thanks for taking the time to compile all the details. Loved it, liked it, already a subscriber. Impressed with your efforts to answer all the question. You would have done a great job running this company in Engineering, PR and Service
Regarding 2.2 being the last update. At least there will be less stress and worry about being sure to take the preparation steps needed. One major regret is the lack of one petal driving and adaptive cruise control.
My experience with my BMW i3. The miles available change pretty dramatically. I can see as many as 190 miles available at 100% if my previous trips were all highway going at 65 mph on a pretty flat terrain highway. If I am driving around locally in my city I can see as low as 140. That actually makes sense as the same happens in our ICE car. So, that is not surprising, in fact I like the more realistic reading.
Great Job! Thanks a lot for the information and all the insights you give us on the car. What I personally miss most is adaptive cruise and preconditioning of the car (especially as winter is coming). I hope that sometimes in the future these features will become implemented.
Again, you are always ahead of the curve. I will still be very happy to get the twelve you like and live with the twelve you don’t like. Bottom line, no 2.1 update yet and holding my breath for this 2.2 before I want to take a long trip.😢
Frankly I'm afraid to try to update my maps. 2.2 finally fixed my navigation, it works now after basically never having worked before in my car. I'm afraid that if I disturb it too much it'll brick my GPS again
First, your videos are the best. Great job! The Secret Engr menu can still be accessed with 2.2. I discovered this by accident when waking from deep sleep and the Central screen was still booting up. I was working out some air bubbles on the lower left side about 3" from the bottom and 3" from left side using single finger pushing air bubbles from screen protector out to the left. I'll play with it tomorrow and see if I can get it to repeat.
So as one of the early 2.2 testers are you providing feedback to Fisker about how 2.2 is working or not? If so will they be making anymore adjustments to 2.2? Boomer about the Solar Sky %age going away. I enjoyed seeing my %age, especially when I would hit 100% which I have only seen about 2 times. Let’s hope FOA in the future can work w/a third party to get us future software updates. Do you know if torque vectoring works on our cars? What about battery pre-conditioning when you take long trips? I haven’t been able how to figure how to set up seat/side mirror settings. Is this something that is functional or not on our cars. It’s a minor inconvenience when my wife and I are constantly manually readjusting the steering wheel, seats and side mirrors every time one of us is getting in the car after the other has driven it.
Yes, there is a spreadsheet where all of the testers have submitted their individual results, notes and comments. Other than possible bug fixes related to installation, I don’t see 2.2 getting updated. Profile settings for saving mirrors/seats was planned for 3.0. Torque vectoring for 4.0. Battery preconditioning was not listed on the software roadmap.
Love your videos, your the man! My wife used my car over the weekend and adjusted the rear view mirror. Now it’s broke. Loose as hell and pointing down at seats. Anyone else? Any ideas on how to fix?
Remember when the Ocean was originally rated at 350 miles in One/Extreme trim and 340 miles in Ultra trim? They increased figures by about 10 miles. Do you think they're just using the Lower 340 miles as the base unit of measurement now?
@@theautomotiveenthusiast Yes the wheels/tires also affect the efficency. The miles now vary from day to day. So I don’t think the EPA numbers are involved anymore.
hmm, i built my own "12v" battery out of 4x 32ah lifepo4 cells for about 50 bucks and replaced the 55lb agm battery in my 2013 chevy volt. runs basically basically plug n play with the voltages. i ran no bms, just used a small inductive active balancer and top balanced for a few days. added 15w silicone heating pad through a thermostat relay to keep it a few degrees above freezing and also added 200w of solar which runs into the low voltage system so i dont really worry about it getting discharged. i would think this would work well for fiskers, very little to no self discharge. no real downsides. not using a bms means you dont have to worry about cold temp lockout, over/under voltage lockouts, over amp lockouts, so it works more like a traditional car battery. very little loads are handled by the 12v battery in modern evs/phevs. no 12v starter motor, ac is high voltage. been driving around for almost a year now without issue, approx the same usable capacity as the original agm battery
@@vevenaneathna Thanks for the suggestion. There are a couple people experimenting with LiFePO4 and Sodium-ion batteries in some of the forums. I need to check up on them and see how their testing is going.
You have done excellent job. How should I update 2.2 version on my suv. Do they send separately software to all vehicle? How should I download. I have still not received for 2.2 yet
The update is sent randomly. You have no control over the OTA. Currently, OTA is on hold. We don't know when it will restart again. If you wish to get it quicker, you can have a service center or mobile tech install it for you. However, that will cost money (price depends).
Don't have a Fisker, but following some of such video's. Once the bugs are out, seems to be a rather complete (and cool looking) car. Bummer that they didn't get the software out earlier - could have helped the sales cycle. Great car, strong focus on design, there have been worse 'new' entrants. Not for nothing, I guess, that Ford delayed numerous models into the market when they seemed to be complete (hardware ..): Mustang Mach e and new (European! Shorter, tight turning, firm handling) Explorer... Check it out, a Ford Explorer that fits in European parking spaces! Ford Expeditions? Here in Europe, would fit where other expedition trucks park ..... ready for forklifts .... But this Fisker seems wonderful! Gosh, the dead end at the end - such a bummer!
The problem is that as said, this is the last update - as good as it gets without 3rd party software support. At £20k I was tempted... but watching your videos fixing door handles, the sheer frustration in your voice that you can't remove Argentina from maps, or that you're going to have to get hold of the FAST tool to restore opening a window... on what is a car all
My car still hasn't updated. Still can't get a hold of Fisker for all of the recalls. Still can't get in any service providers in my state and county (Riverside California) This has been the worst investment in my entire existence. Talk about taken advantage of.
I'm surprised you're not getting any response from Premium Autoworks in Riverside (619)-457-8646. More service locations will be available over time, check fiskeroa.com/service for updates. As far as OTA updates go, I would continue waiting, they are being rolled out. I know it's tough, but there are 6000+ owners going through the same thing.
Energy efficiency -- I'd rather see Miles/kWh, and 3 significant digits. Similar to MPG for ICE cars. "Bigger" number = more efficient. If some people prefer kWh (or watt-hr) per mile, then how about giving the user a choice of units?
I drive my Ocean every day. I think the drive, handling, build quality, etc is better on the Ocean. The Tesla wins on software. I try to drive the Tesla every few weeks to make sure it's working.
Thanks, I like the improvements! With 2.2, do you see real range added on the Charge tab when you leave the car out in the sunlight for a day and then come back (like you left it at 70% and came back to 73%)? Would it be possible to get a full charge this way, to the limit you specify, if you leave the car in the sunlight for the required amount of days in order to reach the specified limit, like 80%?
I haven't done a solar test with 2.2. The last test I did failed to increase the SOC over ten hours in the sun. Vampire losses will eat into the solar results. I'll need to look into that.
@@davemichels7134 You will get a message that the update occurred. When totally finished (there may be a few downloads), the car will then have a setup screen to continue.
@@MTNRanger So if they just turn on electronics by stepping on the brake with the key, they will know if the upgrade has occurred? No need to go thru menus.
Here is a curiosity. I have heard conflicting things regarding the 12v. I drive a BMW i3 and my 12v is maintained by the high voltage battery. In fact to change out the 12v you have to disconnect the high voltage from the 12v. I just watched a video yesterday night where the owner said he had to drive his Ocean 2 hr to make sure he had the 12v charged up in case he got the OTA 2.2. He said that before he drove he got a low 12v warning light. I assumed the 12v was being charged by the high voltage when it sits, no?
@@DaveDarin If everything is working properly, the HV battery pack SHOULD charge the 12V battery. It does so if parked, driving or being charged by EVSE. To force the charging to occur, sit in the driver set and press the brake (ready mode). However, once, you exit, it will turn off. Some people have 12V batteries that are in a weakened state so they either drive it or use a battery tender to help out. Driving it 2 hours doesn’t make sense - it doesn’t need that long. The HV pack can charge it up in 5-20 minutes. With the updated software, the 12V battery is better maintained. Watch some of my other videos in the 12V battery playlist - that will give more insight.
Something to test / investigate: When you are hooked up to a L2 charger, and it's programmed to start offering charge at some time in the middle of the night, does the vehicle accept the charge? I found that my Fisker would ignore the charge being offered until an hour or two later, and I always wondered if that coincided to the times when the car partially awakens to charge the 12v battery? So if it's doing that even less frequently now, does that mean a potential longer delay before the car accepts a charge that is being offered? Seems like the car needs to be awake or partially awake to accept a charge. Curious what your experience has been, and if you noticed any difference with 2.2?
None of my EVSEs have scheduling, so I have never tried doing that. I also charge immediately when I plug in. I don't have a TOU account. I have heard some people have had issues with this.
Funny, your #1 dislike, I see as a major improvement since the mileage is now more aligned with actual driving habits. Seeing 360 miles at the beginning of my trips and not getting 300 miles total when traveling long distances (in excess of over 75mph here in Texas which kills the range), was frustrating for no other reason than feeling cheated out of of those 70 or 80 miles that would disappear in the middle of the trip. It also makes planning the trip easier since I can calculate real mileage instead of guessing at it. Hill descend was not part of the update, but some people saw the telltale warning pop up in between the different 2.2 update parts. We didn't know 2.2 was going to be spread out in different parts, so some people drove the car without all the updates, which was probably the cause for that telltale to show up in error.
I know, I was wavering on that one myself. Like I said, I will look at this further when I do my next trip. I have been getting very good range on trips. Usually between 330-360 miles on the highway. As an EV driver for many years, there are many factors that can reduce range. My update came in one download and I never saw the inconsistencies between the partial updates. Thanks for your comment.
Hi I’m wondering if you can show how to remove the charge port lid from the car to access the emergency unlocking pull cord system and how to set it back again after it was activated
@@coteeric9216 If that happens to my car at some point, I’ll make a video. I’m hesitant to just take things apart if they are working correctly! Thanks for the suggestion.
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You really do an outstanding job every time!
Ocean Ultra owner here from Central Massachusetts. I always look forward to you next video…✅🚙
Thanks for taking the time to compile all the details. Loved it, liked it, already a subscriber. Impressed with your efforts to answer all the question. You would have done a great job running this company in Engineering, PR and Service
Man I'm glad I didn't accept this car when they contacted me back in February, had feeling something was happening, I did loose my $250 order fee.
Thanks for the detailed review! Still waiting for 2.2. Only other things I hope gets delivered is Adaptive cruise and additional Keyfobs/card.
ACC will never come. I was on the ADAS team for Magna.
@@MidAmerican732 Thanks - Any more light on the topic ? So 2.2 is final update pretty much ?
Regarding 2.2 being the last update. At least there will be less stress and worry about being sure to take the preparation steps needed. One major regret is the lack of one petal driving and adaptive cruise control.
My experience with my BMW i3. The miles available change pretty dramatically. I can see as many as 190 miles available at 100% if my previous trips were all highway going at 65 mph on a pretty flat terrain highway. If I am driving around locally in my city I can see as low as 140. That actually makes sense as the same happens in our ICE car. So, that is not surprising, in fact I like the more realistic reading.
That's interesting since most EVs get better range in city driving than highway driving (faster = more battery drain).
Great Job! Thanks a lot for the information and all the insights you give us on the car. What I personally miss most is adaptive cruise and preconditioning of the car (especially as winter is coming). I hope that sometimes in the future these features will become implemented.
Appreciate the thorough review with video documenting each item. Keep the videos coming🔥🌊
Upsetting to hear about only one of your doggie windows working now... hopefully that will somehow fix itself in the future. Thanks for the video
Again, you are always ahead of the curve. I will still be very happy to get the twelve you like and live with the twelve you don’t like. Bottom line, no 2.1 update yet and holding my breath for this 2.2 before I want to take a long trip.😢
@@jkywang2011 2.2 also includes 2.1 so you will be just getting 2.2 now.
Frankly I'm afraid to try to update my maps. 2.2 finally fixed my navigation, it works now after basically never having worked before in my car. I'm afraid that if I disturb it too much it'll brick my GPS again
First, your videos are the best. Great job! The Secret Engr menu can still be accessed with 2.2. I discovered this by accident when waking from deep sleep and the Central screen was still booting up. I was working out some air bubbles on the lower left side about 3" from the bottom and 3" from left side using single finger pushing air bubbles from screen protector out to the left. I'll play with it tomorrow and see if I can get it to repeat.
Interesting, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the suggestion!
Nice update on the 2.2 OTA . THANKS.
A really thorough review of the 2.2 update, great work 👍💪
So as one of the early 2.2 testers are you providing feedback to Fisker about how 2.2 is working or not? If so will they be making anymore adjustments to 2.2? Boomer about the Solar Sky %age going away. I enjoyed seeing my %age, especially when I would hit 100% which I have only seen about 2 times. Let’s hope FOA in the future can work w/a third party to get us future software updates. Do you know if torque vectoring works on our cars? What about battery pre-conditioning when you take long trips? I haven’t been able how to figure how to set up seat/side mirror settings. Is this something that is functional or not on our cars. It’s a minor inconvenience when my wife and I are constantly manually readjusting the steering wheel, seats and side mirrors every time one of us is getting in the car after the other has driven it.
Yes, there is a spreadsheet where all of the testers have submitted their individual results, notes and comments. Other than possible bug fixes related to installation, I don’t see 2.2 getting updated. Profile settings for saving mirrors/seats was planned for 3.0. Torque vectoring for 4.0. Battery preconditioning was not listed on the software roadmap.
hi there...........excellent job....thanx a lot.
Well done. I appreciate the the likes and dislikes. Overall, I think 2.2 is a positive!
Great video! Again! ❤
Liked and I have been a subscriber. Always nicely done.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Great video again 👏
THE survivor 👍
That regen disruption happens in all EVs momentarily. Notice it in my Bolt and Model 3. Shouldn't say all, but those 2 I mentioned.
@@BremboT Yes, but it was bit more extreme on the Ocean. In pretty sure the brake issue on my Model 3 was fixed in an OTA update.
Love your videos, your the man! My wife used my car over the weekend and adjusted the rear view mirror. Now it’s broke. Loose as hell and pointing down at seats.
Anyone else? Any ideas on how to fix?
I have heard that happening before. I'll need to look into it.
Remember when the Ocean was originally rated at 350 miles in One/Extreme trim and 340 miles in Ultra trim? They increased figures by about 10 miles. Do you think they're just using the Lower 340 miles as the base unit of measurement now?
@@theautomotiveenthusiast Yes the wheels/tires also affect the efficency. The miles now vary from day to day. So I don’t think the EPA numbers are involved anymore.
hmm, i built my own "12v" battery out of 4x 32ah lifepo4 cells for about 50 bucks and replaced the 55lb agm battery in my 2013 chevy volt. runs basically basically plug n play with the voltages. i ran no bms, just used a small inductive active balancer and top balanced for a few days. added 15w silicone heating pad through a thermostat relay to keep it a few degrees above freezing and also added 200w of solar which runs into the low voltage system so i dont really worry about it getting discharged. i would think this would work well for fiskers, very little to no self discharge. no real downsides. not using a bms means you dont have to worry about cold temp lockout, over/under voltage lockouts, over amp lockouts, so it works more like a traditional car battery. very little loads are handled by the 12v battery in modern evs/phevs. no 12v starter motor, ac is high voltage. been driving around for almost a year now without issue, approx the same usable capacity as the original agm battery
@@vevenaneathna Thanks for the suggestion. There are a couple people experimenting with LiFePO4 and Sodium-ion batteries in some of the forums. I need to check up on them and see how their testing is going.
You have done excellent job. How should I update 2.2 version on my suv. Do they send separately software to all vehicle? How should I download. I have still not received for 2.2 yet
The update is sent randomly. You have no control over the OTA. Currently, OTA is on hold. We don't know when it will restart again. If you wish to get it quicker, you can have a service center or mobile tech install it for you. However, that will cost money (price depends).
Even though I had to sell mine, I miss it a lot.
What did you get to replace it?
@@MTNRanger haha, a 2024 dodge charger. Went back to ICE.
@@2quick2come I'm tempted to look at the 2025 Daytona Scatpack EV!
@@MTNRanger give it a year, it'll be a little less.
Probably a good idea when I have the car in for recall work to have 2.2 installed and then Cali can be tweaked, if needed.
Yes, if they have FAST, you can get the Cali Mode configured and 2.2 installed.
Don't have a Fisker, but following some of such video's. Once the bugs are out, seems to be a rather complete (and cool looking) car. Bummer that they didn't get the software out earlier - could have helped the sales cycle. Great car, strong focus on design, there have been worse 'new' entrants. Not for nothing, I guess, that Ford delayed numerous models into the market when they seemed to be complete (hardware ..): Mustang Mach e and new (European! Shorter, tight turning, firm handling) Explorer... Check it out, a Ford Explorer that fits in European parking spaces! Ford Expeditions? Here in Europe, would fit where other expedition trucks park ..... ready for forklifts .... But this Fisker seems wonderful! Gosh, the dead end at the end - such a bummer!
The problem is that as said, this is the last update - as good as it gets without 3rd party software support.
At £20k I was tempted... but watching your videos fixing door handles, the sheer frustration in your voice that you can't remove Argentina from maps, or that you're going to have to get hold of the FAST tool to restore opening a window... on what is a car all
My car still hasn't updated.
Still can't get a hold of Fisker for all of the recalls.
Still can't get in any service providers in my state and county (Riverside California)
This has been the worst investment in my entire existence. Talk about taken advantage of.
I'm surprised you're not getting any response from Premium Autoworks in Riverside (619)-457-8646. More service locations will be available over time, check fiskeroa.com/service for updates. As far as OTA updates go, I would continue waiting, they are being rolled out. I know it's tough, but there are 6000+ owners going through the same thing.
Energy efficiency -- I'd rather see Miles/kWh, and 3 significant digits. Similar to MPG for ICE cars. "Bigger" number = more efficient.
If some people prefer kWh (or watt-hr) per mile, then how about giving the user a choice of units?
Yes, having a choice would be nice. Usually a manufacturer sticks to one way for all their EVs. I'm used to Wh/mi that my Tesla uses.
Any thoughts on your Tesla vs Fisker Ocean with 2.2 sw?
I drive my Ocean every day. I think the drive, handling, build quality, etc is better on the Ocean. The Tesla wins on software. I try to drive the Tesla every few weeks to make sure it's working.
Thanks, I like the improvements! With 2.2, do you see real range added on the Charge tab when you leave the car out in the sunlight for a day and then come back (like you left it at 70% and came back to 73%)? Would it be possible to get a full charge this way, to the limit you specify, if you leave the car in the sunlight for the required amount of days in order to reach the specified limit, like 80%?
I haven't done a solar test with 2.2. The last test I did failed to increase the SOC over ten hours in the sun. Vampire losses will eat into the solar results. I'll need to look into that.
@@MTNRanger Thanks.
Great video.
Please check if the rear hatch window can be lowered by the keyfob. Mine has never worked from the keyfob.
That function is not available in the US market due to some weird government regulation.
@@SilvanoWilliams That's right. It's never worked since I received the car last October.
Nicely done! Thanks. How do you know if the update has occurred? I am traveling, so I have to ask someone to look - what do I ask them to check?
@@davemichels7134 You will get a message that the update occurred. When totally finished (there may be a few downloads), the car will then have a setup screen to continue.
@@MTNRanger So if they just turn on electronics by stepping on the brake with the key, they will know if the upgrade has occurred? No need to go thru menus.
@@davemichels7134 If the full update has occurred, there will be a message on the screen saying so when you get in the car.
Here is a curiosity. I have heard conflicting things regarding the 12v. I drive a BMW i3 and my 12v is maintained by the high voltage battery. In fact to change out the 12v you have to disconnect the high voltage from the 12v. I just watched a video yesterday night where the owner said he had to drive his Ocean 2 hr to make sure he had the 12v charged up in case he got the OTA 2.2. He said that before he drove he got a low 12v warning light. I assumed the 12v was being charged by the high voltage when it sits, no?
@@DaveDarin If everything is working properly, the HV battery pack SHOULD charge the 12V battery. It does so if parked, driving or being charged by EVSE. To force the charging to occur, sit in the driver set and press the brake (ready mode). However, once, you exit, it will turn off. Some people have 12V batteries that are in a weakened state so they either drive it or use a battery tender to help out. Driving it 2 hours doesn’t make sense - it doesn’t need that long. The HV pack can charge it up in 5-20 minutes. With the updated software, the 12V battery is better maintained. Watch some of my other videos in the 12V battery playlist - that will give more insight.
Something to test / investigate: When you are hooked up to a L2 charger, and it's programmed to start offering charge at some time in the middle of the night, does the vehicle accept the charge? I found that my Fisker would ignore the charge being offered until an hour or two later, and I always wondered if that coincided to the times when the car partially awakens to charge the 12v battery? So if it's doing that even less frequently now, does that mean a potential longer delay before the car accepts a charge that is being offered?
Seems like the car needs to be awake or partially awake to accept a charge. Curious what your experience has been, and if you noticed any difference with 2.2?
None of my EVSEs have scheduling, so I have never tried doing that. I also charge immediately when I plug in. I don't have a TOU account. I have heard some people have had issues with this.
My Emporia charger is wifi controlled and is programmable for time of day.
@@cjzito Come to think of it, one of my EVSE does have a delay feature. Maybe I'll look into that to check.
Does Adaptive Cruise Control and lane keep sense work?
@@BlainePerry unfortunately, no.
@@MTNRanger ahhh.... I keep looking at them.... but I rely far too hard on Adaptive Cruise and Lane keep during my morning commute to not have them.
Funny, your #1 dislike, I see as a major improvement since the mileage is now more aligned with actual driving habits. Seeing 360 miles at the beginning of my trips and not getting 300 miles total when traveling long distances (in excess of over 75mph here in Texas which kills the range), was frustrating for no other reason than feeling cheated out of of those 70 or 80 miles that would disappear in the middle of the trip. It also makes planning the trip easier since I can calculate real mileage instead of guessing at it.
Hill descend was not part of the update, but some people saw the telltale warning pop up in between the different 2.2 update parts. We didn't know 2.2 was going to be spread out in different parts, so some people drove the car without all the updates, which was probably the cause for that telltale to show up in error.
I know, I was wavering on that one myself. Like I said, I will look at this further when I do my next trip. I have been getting very good range on trips. Usually between 330-360 miles on the highway. As an EV driver for many years, there are many factors that can reduce range. My update came in one download and I never saw the inconsistencies between the partial updates. Thanks for your comment.
I am still sitting with 2.1. Dont know when I get mine
Hi
I’m wondering if you can show how to remove the charge port lid from the car to access the emergency unlocking pull cord system and how to set it back again after it was activated
@@coteeric9216 If that happens to my car at some point, I’ll make a video. I’m hesitant to just take things apart if they are working correctly! Thanks for the suggestion.
Hello
Does The 2.0 hidden menu able to change clock. Thank you
Not that I know of.
how were you able to get this version?
Mine was one of the 25 initial test cars for version 2.2.
I am with version 2.1 and don't know when I will get 2.2
Hopefully you get it soon. Sadly rollout has been slow.
I have a simple question. How do you get 2.2? Did you call the 800 number and wait for hours to get someone?
@@sahbaazar4989 You just have to wait until it gets sent to your Ocean.
Are you still able to access the android menu with 2.2?
@@MrMillertime2010 Like I did in the video months ago? No access to that menu disappeared with 1.11 if I recall.
I would like to do it with tech
Good news that you no longer experience battery drain.
Seems like you have your Tom Tom working?
@@andrehassan9831 You mean the navigation? Yes mine has been working since I bought the car.
@@MTNRanger mine does not work.
@@andrehassan9831 Have you tried the tbox reset?
@@MTNRanger Will do that. Thank you. You are the best.
Try keeping your hands still
A lot of people do this. Sometimes it helps to emphasize certain points when you move your hands.
I almost bought the car, but GOD intervened and stopped me. I fell sorry for u guys
I suppose god doesn't like the rest of us! Thanks for your comment.
Nice. Love that you have a completely worthless cat
Don't let him know that.