@MatWatsonCars @carwow Curious that the original title was changed, the Old one was "New Fisker Ocean review: SO many cool features!". I guess you guys had a chat with @MKBHD innit ? Wait a minute, look who just popped up in the comment section👀
The prices of used cars is usually based on spec, miles, condition and then it's preferences from colours but the Ocean will be based of how many launches it has left 😂😂
The number of boosts is there to save your engine. An electric motor has a limited power you can apply, before the magnets jn there will demagnetise. You can surpass this limit for a real short time, without destroying them right away, but it will harm them on the long terms.
I had an ocean on reserve because I really love the design, but opted to hold off for v2. Later when I read about the boost limit thing I was totally put off. Why sell a feature that disincentives itself? That is very very bad marketing. It's a small thing, but it totally takes the joy out of that experience. Makes it feel like a guilty pleasure.
they are bringing the worst modern videogame features to cars now! boosts remaining? 😅 Do I need to open loot boxes to find the key to turn on the car every time? Can't wait to always having to be connected to my house internet while I drive my car and if I drive off the router range the car shuts down, the future of cars is soo bright ✨
Every car technically has “limits” the manufacturer simply doesn’t tell you that you’re about to break something. Fisker is basically saying “this much left break it if you want”
Do you ever believe the shit you're spewing? Do you know people still drive a 1998 Corolla? Or a 2004 Prius? Do you really think boosting for 300 times will wear the damn thing out?
Exactly. And since a recent government triggered update to FSD, when I use the touch screen in my Model Y, I get a right royal spanking from Elon for looking away from the road for a split second. Bludie redinkulos.
@@phxees ^THIS. That annoyed me so freaking much. Literally an obvious, much wider cut out at the "front" of the boot that was clearly meant to fit the load cover, but he just shoved it in diagonally, randomly for like 2 seconds, not even remotely trying. I can see how some of the car's features being annoying may have gotten to him, but I feel like he was _also_ just having a bad day, and unfortunately chose to take it out on this car, which is pretty unprofessional, imo. It's so rare to get a whole new company making cars that I really hate it when their first vehicle isn't even given a fighting chance, and when stuff like this happens where, through no fault of their own, they are more harshly criticized than they deserve. The software stuff does seem annoying, but with this being their very first car, and OTA updates obviously in the works, it just feels wrong to judge it so harshly for thing that may not even be an issue even just a couple months later.
I saw Marques complaining about the car having a limit for launch control but I thought that you would know that most cars have a limit.. for example the VAG group has a limit on the DSG of 200 for the DQ and 400 for the DL and a 500 AMAX launches for the ones with the ZF 8 speed, the difference is that Fisker put this number in the infotainment while you can only see this in other by using a diagnostic tool.BMW cuts timing between shifts after 50 launches and depending on what 8hp version you have you lose the function after 100 or 200 launches.911 pdk has 500 limit, the Huracan has a 250 limit.. In two years of ownership I have only done 43 launch control with my Audi .. so i guess the number is not a problem its the fact that there is a limit that is annoying. Maybe everybody does this its just that Fisker had the stupid ideea to display this number.
Is it stupid though? I think it's pretty decent of them to put that in. It's saying to owners "look, you can do this if you like, but it's REALLY bad for the car, so don't do it too often, dummy". It'll also be good for people buying them second hand, probably.
While honesty is what is expected in a review, they made some mistakes in reviewing and their review of the initial release, pre version 2.0 of the software as a little unfair. Tesla's first effort was not at all perfect. So I disregarded those 2 reviews.
In the Netherlands it was actually a relatively common car at the time also for a brief period due to all kinds of fiscal incentives making the car pretty affordable. Although it only lasted for about a year until Tesla came to the market here with the model S. But I recall that 20% of all Fiskers sold were sold in the Netherlands.
@Arpedk doubt Risker will last out the year. Financial crisis, poor quality, broken promises. Outright lies. Dangerous faults. Now risk of De-listing of shares and latest share price is a very sad 56c. Seems pro investors and heavy weights in the industry are steering well clear of Risker. Because they see bad management and product.
03:40 This has newer software than MKBHDs test vehicle as you could not view the Current Solar Rate on MKBHDs. Interesting that the software update that Mat's has does not fix many of the car's software issues.
That all window open feature is great. And the Fisker is one of the very few besides Porsche that retains a sunroof that actually still open. Great job.
Said it before, say it again: electric cars should have mechanical controls for the non-essential stuff as much as possible. Less wiring, less battery usage, fewer points of failure, lower repair costs if something does fail. Plus I personally love the fact that I can just reach to a vent and point it another way on feel, while driving. Is that really so hard to understand for car designers?
@@geraldh.8047 Thought about that. Driver side? Sure. Passenger side is one of the things where I would still prefer electrical. And one amenity I'll readily admit I miss in my car is a backup camera. Perhaps an auto-dimming center rear view mirror is not a luxury anymore, with all those bi-xenon welding torches fit to cars nowadays. Other than those things, though... radio volume & settings? Chair adjustment? Where the vents are blowing? What temp it is anyway? Physical buttons and/or manual controls please.
Electric cars should not exist, at least not yet. The technology is not there, for the moment all EV's are for people who have their heads up their a**es, who think they're saving the polar bears by driving an EV, who have their brains washed by all the false claims and propaganda..
That makes absolutely no sense.. this guy reviewing this car should be homeless and without a job! He is a complete idiot and is clueless on how this car even works! He’s pathetic!
Hopefully the ocean will be more than one year in production compared to Fisker Karma. At least they cannot put the exhaust at the front of the car this time around.
From an owner since December I can say the Ocean Extreme is a lovely family car with some good oomph to it. Yes there are a few software glitches, but nothing they can't fix with OTA updates.
The problem isn't only the software issues, it's also that they're selling a car that's not even finished yet. No adaptive cruise control because that'll be available later on. Really? It started with gaming companies selling unfinished games that would be fixed with software updates and now we are on to cars. I would never buy a car that hasn't even got all it's features when it leaves the factory.
I'd love to see them release the car in a finished state. He tested it as it and if thats something that needs updates to be fixed it should have been done before release. If not it is what it is and anything after the fact may well improve it but doesn't change the current experience.
@@siraff4461 I'm not excusing it, but if they waited for software 4.0 on the roadmap, they'd be dead before they released the thing. They needed the revenue to start, it's a new product by a startup, early buyers are unfortunately beta testers.
@@tipoomaster Which is fair enough so long as they are happy to take the poor reviews which go along with that. They could easily have released it with less features, a smaller battery or whatever to cut costs but they chose to screw the early buyers instead which will reflect on them. Lets be honest Fisker hasn't got the greatest record at being able to run a company in the first place so releasing something half baked really isn't going to help that look. Its also a lot less hassle to sort out a bit of code than to pass all the safety tests so its a bit of a thin excuse. Plenty of other stuff is half baked too. For instance suspension set up is a well known art these days but they seem to not have bothered asking anyone about it. Plenty of things on this just scream built as quickly and cheaply as possible and considering their track record its someone more brave than me who's going to throw their money at it. Speaking of which even the price rings alarm bells. Thats the kind of price a big maker using lots of common parts with another vehicle could possibly do. When its a new company and a ground up car thats just not enough to cover proper development. I wish them all the best - I really liked the Karma and almost got one until I saw one in person and thought it had been in a large accident then not repaired properly. Apparently fit and finish weren't part of the deal so I left it. A shame because I still think it would have been quite cool.
I don't mind setting the steering wheel via the screen, as long as it has memory for profiles you set your position once then never really move it again. Wing mirrors on the other hand can be a bit annoying via the screen.
Unnecessary gimmicks, prone to fail. My car has one mechanical lever on to adjust the steering wheel up and down and in/out. Takes 5s to get it done. Are people so decrepit today, that everything has to be done electronically and supported by nannies?
@@heiner71 Stop and think for a moment. When the process is motorized it can automatically adjust to different driver profiles. If the car has only one driver ever this is a non-issue, but it's an incredibly nice feature for a lot of people. When the seat, wheel, and mirrors are motorized swapping drivers is seamless.
Nice to see a reviewer actually commenting on the under sprung and under dampened ride. All the owners raved "oh its so planted and comfortable", but when I test drove the Ocean I felt exactly how Mat is describing it + excessive pitching and rolling. Not at all the "drives more like a sports car than an SUV" feel that Henrik Fisker claimed. It drives like a mid price, mid size SUV that is far too heavy for anything remotely sporty driving.
3:40 Coming straight from the MKBHD's review of this car, where there was no information for the solar panels in the infotaintment system. But glad that they included in here, assuming it got a software update.
@@evanscott976 No. He reviewed the car as it was sold to a customer and existed in the wild. It is 100% on Fisker. This was a production customer car! The delusion of the bag holders is thick.
The 1 thing reviewers have to start doing is telling viewers what software version they are testing and I suspect the version he has is 1.00 as all the issues he shows us are fixed in 1.11 and version 2 is bringing a lot more fixes and there will be a new version each month .. and so on .. He should verify what version is available in the cars he is reviewing before reviewing them and 1.11 has been out for a month already!
Within a month, Fisker will have eliminated the 500 boosts limit, I am sure. I think they will replace it with a total boost counter, and a recommendation.
Fantastic idea, they should absolutely make this change, the 500 boost limit is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a car (and I've owned a S55 AMG Mercedes)
3:58 Had a solar roof on my jeep for 3 years now with 335w and I'm lucky to see much power at all when the clouds are out like they are in this video. Quite understandable for that feature to be a bit useless in certain places and times of year but I've had days where I can easily make 18-25 miles of range for a typical electrical car when the sun is cranking.
Well, I am then one of few who drive it. And I must say, I liked. They did not get a sale simply because we just bought Tesla S two weeks before test drive (that was reserved months before). Design is great, you can see someone who knows it did it. Now my annoying things: - Breaks felt so different than what I am used too (too light then, can't feel how much you need to press) - Constant warnings. Now seller excuse was that their software is not yet finished (I tested in in October last year) - A bit slow navigation. After checking about it a bit, I found it was made for Fisker by TomTom, and usually as many OEMs, they go with as cheap hardware as possible. - Acceleration limited (I tested only once as I passed that "Oh wow, looks how fast this EV is" - It does feel like version V1 or maybe even v0.8. But, it does have a great price, made in factory that actually has experience building cards (your Mercedes G wagon comes from there too, BMW X3 used to come from there too, made in Austria). Feels OK when driving if you are not hooligan like Matt is :-) Very comfortable ride. Design is great, I wish them to solve all small issues. Once they do, this could be a car to buy.
Lane departure warnings seemed to be your biggest annoyance - could have just silence them or shut it off all together (fisker Ocean One owner with 6,000 miles here)
Ok so this was fair and the criticism was on point, although you can turn off the warning chimes and they will remain off (mine do). The warnings will calm down once the radars are finally activated. People want to equate that to the car being buggy. The car is acting as intended, and is a bit oversensitive, but its supposed to be working with those radars turned on.
Yeah, it’ll be short lived (again) going on the current state of their finances and how little cars they’re selling. Henrik Fisker should stick to design, not trying to run an entire business.
@@windowman9665The new Kona Electric is a bargain for the amount of kit you get, especially after incentives. I think it’ll be the budget EV to beat for 2024
As a Model 3 owner for the past 4 years, it is apparent that Fisker are still in the first stages of development just like my 1st gen Model 3 was when we picked it up. I have an Ocean Extreme on order as build quality is miles ahead of my Tesla and the roadmap for updates to the software will address all these small issues very soon. Seems to be trendy or on-point to bitch about Fisker at the moment, despite not many people driving or spending time with one…
It's not bad ! and has an onboard 230v supply rated at 3000 watts which is pretty handy, also very handy is it is spacious, looks cool and you can put all the rear seats down should you buy a fridge or washing machine and want to get it home ASAP !... It does seem a bit dark and gloomy inside, so a lighter colour interior would be more cheerful... I do like the long range on the top model along with a 4.1 second 0-60mph time !.... if only there was a mute button to stop all that annoying beeping, I would love to buy this car !... the rear end does look like it was inspired by the Alfa Romeo Cloverleaf of the 1990's/2000's... I like this car.
I simply don't understand the resistance to Tesla's swipe to go feature. I use the auto select feature and love it. Rarely do I need to select manually. When I do it's no different then finding a shift lever. I get it, everyone wants a stick shift, so they can be a big bad racer. LoL!
The area of a car roof wouldn't give you anywhere near an effective charge, even on a sunny day. To get a meaningful charge - while you parked for example - you would need a solar array the size of a tennis court.....
@@dabulls1g Well maybe not, but if some potential buyers felt the car would be charged up on a sunny day while they went shopping, or had a picnic, they'd end up disappointed. Sort of in the same way some early adopters of the Toyota Prius seemed to feel their cars would charge up while parked, because they'd been told they were "self charging"..........The concept of solar on a car roof is fine in itself, but just don't expect huge returns from it. I'd be surprised if you saw 1500 miles per year return....
Thats a selling point for some of us. As a techy person, Its one of the things I want in an EV. A large, functional infotainment display with essential apps.
Correction: The first X5 was not designed by Fisker but by Frank Stephenson - who has a very nice RUclips channel on his own, explaining a lot of things he did in the past and what cars he designed.
You are were putting 2 things in forground which are from my point of view very low issues and not only comming with the Ocean. The lane assist is even in my 10 year old Mazda 6 a source for always binging if you put it on. And also in the Ocean you can switch it off, even when you like to drive on country roads and change the lane. The other source for binging is the 'FI-Pilot' / speed checker. This features is in europe for all new cars a must feature by regulation. But also here you can switch it to only optical. After this two minor settings you can drive silent or enjoy the fantastic sound system.
Come on Mat, you should know by now that EVERY car will go on default safety settings nowadays. That has been since 2021 when a NEW (so not a facelift) car is introduced. Just EU (NCAP points) regulations, nothing to do with a brand.
Yep stuff like Lane assists is on by default by regulation now. In my kia though you can press an hold a button on the wheel to turn it off. Don't have to dig in a menu then. It's a perfectly fine system on a main road. It's down right lethal on a back road or country lane in the UK. They definitely did not think about it.
@@0tispunkm3y3rIt can only be lethal because it's not properly calibrated. That's the carmaker's job - some do it better, some worse. Kia is one of the latter
About 20 years ago, Mazda gave the 929 solar panels on the roof which kept the AC running while parked. Now THAT was genius. No more getting back into a boiling car.
@@chrisc475 Even Mazda didn't repeat it as far as I know. Car manufacturers will happily add any option that sells. If Joe Public is too stupid to buy it, then they'll have thought "F@!k-em then. Let em roast."
Fisker is supposed to release the 2.0 version of the software for this car on a OTA update. Hopefully it improves a bunch of the faults which seem to be software related.
Nobody is buying this loaded Ocean over a Model Y Performance. What I am much more interested about is the 37k version of this Fisker! That one should be the more interesting one!!
If you compare the built and the interior on both cars you will change your mind. Also you cannot compare performance as they are in a different category
@@iliascharitonidis6950 Exterior and interior are the BEST part of the Fisker. Personally I love the design of the Ocean. Sadly, it's worst part is the tech and how unreliable it is according to every single reviewer. Hence why most will end up going with a Tesla in the end, even if they picked the Ocean first.
This is nonsense and most likely competitors making complaints. I own the Ocean and it’s perfectly safe. Apparently four people made complaints now compare that to Tesla complaints
Tesla has recalled at least once all of vehicles they have already sold. Some of the reasons are below: steering problems, defective rearview cameras, mounting bracket manufacturing flaws, Autopilot malfunctions, failure of low brake fluid warning lights, weak third and second-row seats, steering wheels that fall off, faulty suspension parts, and doors that unlock during a crash.
The solar roof is a prime example of the juice not being worth the squeeze. There is no way to justify the cost of the roof compared to paying for 1.5 charging sessions.
It isn't something you need to worry about unduly. You probably won't see one of these on the used market for some time... Buyers will be wary of new unknown makes for a while yet....
That steering wheel is horrific and would literally be a deal breaker for me… I had a VW that had one shaped pretty much like that and, while it looks great in the laboratory, the shape means that when you relax your hand position on long drives, you tend to rest the pad of the base of your thumb on the oval “point” of the rim and it cuts off circulation after a while. It’s designed for the shape between your index and thumb but, apart from shop window dummies, nobody holds their hand like that.
The beeping/alarms should have been worked out in the testing, prior to the release of the vehicle. For sure, but I am confident Fisker will work out these kinks and many of the issues look like they can be resolved via software.
Far too much stuff is being added to “the screen” in cars. It’s REALLY annoying! They’re all a pain to navigate, especially if you’re driving. You can’t feel what you’re pressing, so you HAVE to look away from the road. We had a Focus courtesy car with the climate control on the screen, it was really awkward to get the right temp. In our own focus the climate control is done with physical dials, I don’t need to look at them at all to know if I’m turning it up or down, I can just feel it. Then as soon as I’ve done that I can move the blowers, adjust my steering wheel, adjust the seat etc, all without having to navigate to different screens! Hate screens in cars!!
People forget tesla had all kinds of problems and bugs when they launched... people invested in fisker thinking it will be the next tesla immediately thats not how things work in reality... to put it in perspective tesla was founded in 2003 and only in 2020 they had their first profit year...fisker is a new company with vision be patient
Fisker designed the Tesla Model S. Fisker designed and sold the Fisker Karma. Sold to a Chinese company, it became the Karma Revero. From Fisker Automotive to Fisker Inc., not a new company at all.
I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out through OTA updates and if they do I think it will sell pretty well because it's a damn good looking SUV. Whomever came up with the boost counter idea should be kept on a short leash because it will only hurt it's value and it makes people think the end is near as it approaches zero.
They're going bankrupt....... for a second time. Sad because the Karma was a really good looking car. Henrick Fisker is a brilliant designer. Just not a brilliant businessman.
Just saw one of these today with a temp tag on it in TN of all places (not very EV friendly state) driving into my neighborhood. Not sure if was a demonstrator or an actual purchased vehicle.
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The only likable part was the comical script...! Well done Matt...
Love the title change 👌
@MatWatsonCars @carwow Curious that the original title was changed, the Old one was "New Fisker Ocean review: SO many cool features!". I guess you guys had a chat with @MKBHD innit ? Wait a minute, look who just popped up in the comment section👀
I dare you to release one EV video without mentioning Tesla - just one!
Prove it, plug in a dishwasher, Matt! Full cycle.
Can't wait to take my second hand fisker ocean to a software center and have my boosts set to 9999.
Just infinite boosting!😅
What if it is 250590 Boost Power?
The prices of used cars is usually based on spec, miles, condition and then it's preferences from colours but the Ocean will be based of how many launches it has left 😂😂
The number of boosts is there to save your engine. An electric motor has a limited power you can apply, before the magnets jn there will demagnetise. You can surpass this limit for a real short time, without destroying them right away, but it will harm them on the long terms.
Change it to INT_MAX XD
People in 10 years trying to sell their Oceans, "how many boosts does it have left?" LOL
I had an ocean on reserve because I really love the design, but opted to hold off for v2.
Later when I read about the boost limit thing I was totally put off. Why sell a feature that disincentives itself? That is very very bad marketing. It's a small thing, but it totally takes the joy out of that experience. Makes it feel like a guilty pleasure.
They will probably charge you to add more boost.
@@IdleNomad its not good for the car. save you from yourself haha
@@Tacocat123 Then.... don't add it to the damn car as a "feature"
Not hard.
@@sebastianstoica578 you can still use it, but warranty is voided
they are bringing the worst modern videogame features to cars now! boosts remaining? 😅 Do I need to open loot boxes to find the key to turn on the car every time? Can't wait to always having to be connected to my house internet while I drive my car and if I drive off the router range the car shuts down, the future of cars is soo bright ✨
Every car technically has “limits” the manufacturer simply doesn’t tell you that you’re about to break something. Fisker is basically saying “this much left break it if you want”
Just wait till you gotta buy dlc to start getting access to software updates 😂
Do you ever believe the shit you're spewing? Do you know people still drive a 1998 Corolla? Or a 2004 Prius? Do you really think boosting for 300 times will wear the damn thing out?
Always makes me chuckle… you can’t use your mobile phone while driving. But you can use a HUGE tablet with fiddly text and virtual buttons.
Exactly. And since a recent government triggered update to FSD, when I use the touch screen in my Model Y, I get a right royal spanking from Elon for looking away from the road for a split second. Bludie redinkulos.
i have a Tesla, i get in the car , drive, and get out, there is literally nothing to adjust or do on the screen at all, ever.
l2p
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl except the new model 3 has gears, ventilation and parking brake on screen I believe.
@@dpfghelaventilation was always on the screen. That beeing said, you can set it to adjust on a wildcard steering wheel button or you can use voice.
False equivalency for mutton-heads
16:08 The parcel shelf throw has RETURNED!! 😁😁
Nissan Almera + Subaru Forester = Fisker Ocean.
Seems like there was a cutout for it. Oh well.
@@phxees ^THIS. That annoyed me so freaking much. Literally an obvious, much wider cut out at the "front" of the boot that was clearly meant to fit the load cover, but he just shoved it in diagonally, randomly for like 2 seconds, not even remotely trying.
I can see how some of the car's features being annoying may have gotten to him, but I feel like he was _also_ just having a bad day, and unfortunately chose to take it out on this car, which is pretty unprofessional, imo. It's so rare to get a whole new company making cars that I really hate it when their first vehicle isn't even given a fighting chance, and when stuff like this happens where, through no fault of their own, they are more harshly criticized than they deserve. The software stuff does seem annoying, but with this being their very first car, and OTA updates obviously in the works, it just feels wrong to judge it so harshly for thing that may not even be an issue even just a couple months later.
@@purwantiallan5089none of those car are similar
Did it not fit if he turned it around? Looked like it might.
I saw Marques complaining about the car having a limit for launch control but I thought that you would know that most cars have a limit.. for example the VAG group has a limit on the DSG of 200 for the DQ and 400 for the DL and a 500 AMAX launches for the ones with the ZF 8 speed, the difference is that Fisker put this number in the infotainment while you can only see this in other by using a diagnostic tool.BMW cuts timing between shifts after 50 launches and depending on what 8hp version you have you lose the function after 100 or 200 launches.911 pdk has 500 limit, the Huracan has a 250 limit.. In two years of ownership I have only done 43 launch control with my Audi .. so i guess the number is not a problem its the fact that there is a limit that is annoying. Maybe everybody does this its just that Fisker had the stupid ideea to display this number.
Great info 👏👏
Is it stupid though? I think it's pretty decent of them to put that in. It's saying to owners "look, you can do this if you like, but it's REALLY bad for the car, so don't do it too often, dummy". It'll also be good for people buying them second hand, probably.
@@RustyPettersonexam its there to protect the HV BMS
Launch control is for bundles of sticks. My 2006 Z06 has no limits.
BMW uses ZF8HP`s and they dont have launch control limits, so this is just a lazy excuse.
mkbhd and matt digging fisker's grave lmao
While honesty is what is expected in a review, they made some mistakes in reviewing and their review of the initial release, pre version 2.0 of the software as a little unfair. Tesla's first effort was not at all perfect. So I disregarded those 2 reviews.
@@kikukomarko2711 This one is version 2.0
@@kikukomarko2711 Matt Video is already Ocean 2.0. lmao
look at the screen, it has solarsky feature and the functioning California mode
Matt was being open minded and wasn't giving a bad rap. Sounds like you have ill wish.
Company going down
The fisker Karma was actually a pretty good looking car for the time
In the Netherlands it was actually a relatively common car at the time also for a brief period due to all kinds of fiscal incentives making the car pretty affordable. Although it only lasted for about a year until Tesla came to the market here with the model S. But I recall that 20% of all Fiskers sold were sold in the Netherlands.
Yeah - and nothing more.
Why are you talking about the karma on an ocean video?
@@dabulls1gthis isn’t your personal safe space it’s the internet 😂
KARMA is now Chyna owned and makes CRAPPY cars.
I was surprised at 37k start price. For a new electric car like that, that’s not bad
But lots of extras which cost plenty of money, but which are standard with e.g. the Tesla MY
They are still losing +40k on each of them, so it is just a trick to get people buying these... but not likely the company will be around in 5 years.
37k to buy and 2years later worth zero dollars yes what a bargain
They are already going......... down the drain.@@Arpedk
@Arpedk doubt Risker will last out the year. Financial crisis, poor quality, broken promises. Outright lies.
Dangerous faults.
Now risk of De-listing of shares and latest share price is a very sad 56c.
Seems pro investors and heavy weights in the industry are steering well clear of Risker. Because they see bad management and product.
Legend has it that right rear interior light is still on to this day.
Bahahahahahaha…🙄
03:40 This has newer software than MKBHDs test vehicle as you could not view the Current Solar Rate on MKBHDs. Interesting that the software update that Mat's has does not fix many of the car's software issues.
MKBHD’s car wasn’t a test car, he reviewed a dealership owner’s car. Will be interesting to see him re-review the car with the update though
He also didn't notice the car seat storage compartment. Had an Audi A4 that those, and always forget when I stored anything in them.
@@Natak222 Sorry, I mean the car he tested.
@@rdramos13 The one under the front seat? If so then he did.
2.0 will have that. this car is running 1.11. WTF knows what old v MKBHDs had, probably 1.10 or 1.09.
The driver's side tray when it retracts the reminds me of the Open All Hours till
I would love to see a 60-0 emergency break test included in these reviews. Especially with cars getting so heavy, proper breaking is crucial.
OCEAN fail the moose test.
Brake!
It’s brake not break sir
all cars brake well
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl - except , TESLA dont need Friction brakes at all.
We need a 10-hour version of Mat’s “and a bing, and a bong…”😂
He wants to play bumper kars or something...😅
He ought to lay off the bong.
The best part of the video 😂
That all window open feature is great. And the Fisker is one of the very few besides Porsche that retains a sunroof that actually still open. Great job.
My 2003 Mini Cooper-S did the same thing.
BMW have had 'total closure' for years, way back to the nineties e39. Nothing new or special..
Literally every German car has that lol
@@lordgrinz2011 Mini Countryman S also.
@@sweetfreedomGB e36 had it, open and close. and I'm sure it was on at least audi 100 to
Said it before, say it again: electric cars should have mechanical controls for the non-essential stuff as much as possible. Less wiring, less battery usage, fewer points of failure, lower repair costs if something does fail. Plus I personally love the fact that I can just reach to a vent and point it another way on feel, while driving. Is that really so hard to understand for car designers?
So you want manual window cranks back?
The word is 'fewer'.
@@robertpotton9179You're right, thx
@@geraldh.8047 Thought about that. Driver side? Sure. Passenger side is one of the things where I would still prefer electrical. And one amenity I'll readily admit I miss in my car is a backup camera. Perhaps an auto-dimming center rear view mirror is not a luxury anymore, with all those bi-xenon welding torches fit to cars nowadays.
Other than those things, though... radio volume & settings? Chair adjustment? Where the vents are blowing? What temp it is anyway? Physical buttons and/or manual controls please.
Electric cars should not exist, at least not yet. The technology is not there, for the moment all EV's are for people who have their heads up their a**es, who think they're saving the polar bears by driving an EV, who have their brains washed by all the false claims and propaganda..
California mode had me 😂😂😂. The homeless mode with the windows down and sleeping in the back!
That makes absolutely no sense.. this guy reviewing this car should be homeless and without a job! He is a complete idiot and is clueless on how this car even works! He’s pathetic!
That's a perfect representation of California 😂
@@ethanol1586 Sadly I have to agree, even when you can afford this car it doesn't mean you can afford to live in the Bay Area!
@@I_love_our_planetis it affordable in Pennsylvania?
Im cryin Lmaooooooo
Hopefully the ocean will be more than one year in production compared to Fisker Karma. At least they cannot put the exhaust at the front of the car this time around.
Fisker Ocean and Karma are equally underrated.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMTry a few weeks
From an owner since December I can say the Ocean Extreme is a lovely family car with some good oomph to it. Yes there are a few software glitches, but nothing they can't fix with OTA updates.
People are acting like all new ev car companies have no software glitches. They should try driving an early year model 3 without any updates
They can't fix the resale value with OTA updates
@@josh3221ify half price in 1 year , like most EV s
The problem isn't only the software issues, it's also that they're selling a car that's not even finished yet. No adaptive cruise control because that'll be available later on. Really? It started with gaming companies selling unfinished games that would be fixed with software updates and now we are on to cars. I would never buy a car that hasn't even got all it's features when it leaves the factory.
@@mikeoxlong5928maybe because 60% are leasing and not buying?
I'd love to see you do a quick redo after the 2.0 software!
I'd love to see them release the car in a finished state. He tested it as it and if thats something that needs updates to be fixed it should have been done before release. If not it is what it is and anything after the fact may well improve it but doesn't change the current experience.
@@siraff4461 I'm not excusing it, but if they waited for software 4.0 on the roadmap, they'd be dead before they released the thing. They needed the revenue to start, it's a new product by a startup, early buyers are unfortunately beta testers.
@@tipoomaster Which is fair enough so long as they are happy to take the poor reviews which go along with that.
They could easily have released it with less features, a smaller battery or whatever to cut costs but they chose to screw the early buyers instead which will reflect on them.
Lets be honest Fisker hasn't got the greatest record at being able to run a company in the first place so releasing something half baked really isn't going to help that look.
Its also a lot less hassle to sort out a bit of code than to pass all the safety tests so its a bit of a thin excuse.
Plenty of other stuff is half baked too. For instance suspension set up is a well known art these days but they seem to not have bothered asking anyone about it.
Plenty of things on this just scream built as quickly and cheaply as possible and considering their track record its someone more brave than me who's going to throw their money at it.
Speaking of which even the price rings alarm bells. Thats the kind of price a big maker using lots of common parts with another vehicle could possibly do. When its a new company and a ground up car thats just not enough to cover proper development.
I wish them all the best - I really liked the Karma and almost got one until I saw one in person and thought it had been in a large accident then not repaired properly. Apparently fit and finish weren't part of the deal so I left it. A shame because I still think it would have been quite cool.
I want to have a FINISHED car Not an unfinished product
The car looks much better than it's shares on the stock market !
Hehe
Yeah I hope the cars won't crash and burn!
Hopefully not like Tesla's do
Black Rock and Vanguard just bought 15% of Fisker shares... What do you think will happen?
@@elyzium Those companies also make money off of them failing. What do you think will happen?
I don't mind setting the steering wheel via the screen, as long as it has memory for profiles you set your position once then never really move it again.
Wing mirrors on the other hand can be a bit annoying via the screen.
Unnecessary gimmicks, prone to fail. My car has one mechanical lever on to adjust the steering wheel up and down and in/out. Takes 5s to get it done. Are people so decrepit today, that everything has to be done electronically and supported by nannies?
@@heiner71 Stop and think for a moment. When the process is motorized it can automatically adjust to different driver profiles. If the car has only one driver ever this is a non-issue, but it's an incredibly nice feature for a lot of people. When the seat, wheel, and mirrors are motorized swapping drivers is seamless.
@@MrBwSBwS , makes sense for cars driven by multiple drivers. I am the only one driving my car.
Thank tesla for making everything controlled through a touch screen "the way"
Even worse though is having to use the screen to adjust the air vents!
I had one of those passing me on the I-40 East leaving California. What a cool car!
indeed
That was me
FISKER is bankrupt in 2024.
Love the solar panel idea, I live in S. Spain, would be ideal here.
Nice to see a reviewer actually commenting on the under sprung and under dampened ride. All the owners raved "oh its so planted and comfortable", but when I test drove the Ocean I felt exactly how Mat is describing it + excessive pitching and rolling. Not at all the "drives more like a sports car than an SUV" feel that Henrik Fisker claimed.
It drives like a mid price, mid size SUV that is far too heavy for anything remotely sporty driving.
3:40 Coming straight from the MKBHD's review of this car, where there was no information for the solar panels in the infotaintment system. But glad that they included in here, assuming it got a software update.
He reviewed a very old version of the OS (intentionally)
@@evanscott976 No. He reviewed the car as it was sold to a customer and existed in the wild. It is 100% on Fisker. This was a production customer car!
The delusion of the bag holders is thick.
MKBHD the iPhone clown
@@evanscott976 he said he will review whatever the car is now, not wait till their "software update". Also, it was not a "very old" version of the OS
@martinmcnulty8155 having fun commenting that everywhere? Yes he reviews iPhones, good observation.
Marques Brownlee: hold my software update
Yeah, "The Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed".
@@Hundredthldiot tesla shill
@@Hundredthldiot I am pretty sure he hasnt reviewed any 80s and 90s cars:)
@@AanShovon Brownlee? He reviews whatever will attract eyeballs, that's how the RUclips economy works.
"The worst review I've ever watched" :p
Matt's internal dialog during california mode was amazing.. hahahaha
This will be a great success when the software catches up with the hardware. The vehicle-to-load options are awesome!
Have a feeling that car at 0:25 is the gma t.50. 4.0 NA V12 12k rpm, ~970 kgs
Sounds more like a motorcycle to me
@@YZJByea it sounds like a three cylinder to me
It’s an ICE car with a manual gearbox
The rear facing camera is on the KIA EV9 aswell, but you fully missed that
I can't wait to see you try the ë-C3 and Renault 5 Electric
The 1 thing reviewers have to start doing is telling viewers what software version they are testing and I suspect the version he has is 1.00 as all the issues he shows us are fixed in 1.11 and version 2 is bringing a lot more fixes and there will be a new version each month .. and so on ..
He should verify what version is available in the cars he is reviewing before reviewing them and 1.11 has been out for a month already!
Defaulting to turning back on is a regulation in the UK, according to Harry from Harry's Garage.
Good point.
@@stephen25uk My Subaru doesn't, it just leaves an annoying yellow light on the dash.
Another thing is how easy it is to turn off. Some cars have a button on the steering wheel.
Within a month, Fisker will have eliminated the 500 boosts limit, I am sure. I think they will replace it with a total boost counter, and a recommendation.
Fantastic idea, they should absolutely make this change, the 500 boost limit is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a car (and I've owned a S55 AMG Mercedes)
😂
This is basically suffering from over engineering. They over thought it which lead to spending time on the least important things.
For some reason i really dig the look of it, didn't know it was coming to the UK.
Might look at a later generation model.
The front when the ocean logo lights up, bruhhh 😍
3:58 Had a solar roof on my jeep for 3 years now with 335w and I'm lucky to see much power at all when the clouds are out like they are in this video. Quite understandable for that feature to be a bit useless in certain places and times of year but I've had days where I can easily make 18-25 miles of range for a typical electrical car when the sun is cranking.
Gimmick.
Well, I am then one of few who drive it. And I must say, I liked. They did not get a sale simply because we just bought Tesla S two weeks before test drive (that was reserved months before).
Design is great, you can see someone who knows it did it. Now my annoying things:
- Breaks felt so different than what I am used too (too light then, can't feel how much you need to press)
- Constant warnings. Now seller excuse was that their software is not yet finished (I tested in in October last year)
- A bit slow navigation. After checking about it a bit, I found it was made for Fisker by TomTom, and usually as many OEMs, they go with as cheap hardware as possible.
- Acceleration limited (I tested only once as I passed that "Oh wow, looks how fast this EV is"
- It does feel like version V1 or maybe even v0.8.
But, it does have a great price, made in factory that actually has experience building cards (your Mercedes G wagon comes from there too, BMW X3 used to come from there too, made in Austria). Feels OK when driving if you are not hooligan like Matt is :-) Very comfortable ride. Design is great, I wish them to solve all small issues. Once they do, this could be a car to buy.
Lol. No
Found the Biden Voting sheep. How about a V8 car buddy?
Does the rotating screen go well with polarized glasses?
The head restraint will also rotate, so you watch the screen from the same angle.
@@timogronroos4642 Ha!
It's also an SUV so it's bound to be sideways sometime in its life.
Here's to hoping it has auto-rotate
@@timogronroos4642 LOL
If I took that long to figure out the drivers folding table I think I would give up reviewing anything that needs a bit of brainpower 😂
A bit uncalled for. It's not easy figuring these things out you know laddie.
What happened to "New Fisker Ocean review: SO many cool features!" ?
Mandela effect 🤨
Lane departure warnings seemed to be your biggest annoyance - could have just silence them or shut it off all together (fisker Ocean One owner with 6,000 miles here)
Ok so this was fair and the criticism was on point, although you can turn off the warning chimes and they will remain off (mine do). The warnings will calm down once the radars are finally activated.
People want to equate that to the car being buggy. The car is acting as intended, and is a bit oversensitive, but its supposed to be working with those radars turned on.
Didn't expect Fisker to be back
It isn’t lol
They'll be gone again before you know it.
Tesla fan bois continue to be obsessed with Fisker
Yeah, it’ll be short lived (again) going on the current state of their finances and how little cars they’re selling. Henrik Fisker should stick to design, not trying to run an entire business.
It is back shorts will burn
Matt, where is the review for the HYUNDAI KONA???
Who wants to see a review of a piece of garbage? Not me
Maybe it's a bit weird looking but it's a great all around car. Probably the best in its segment.@@windowman9665
We're talking of reviewing a Kona, not your mummy.
@@windowman9665The new Kona Electric is a bargain for the amount of kit you get, especially after incentives. I think it’ll be the budget EV to beat for 2024
The Kona N or don't bother.
Wasn't the x5 actually designed by Frank Stephenson?
Wasn't it Chris Bangle? 🤷♀
Yeah, Frank was design chief around that time, Henrik worked under him and helped with the X5.
As a Model 3 owner for the past 4 years, it is apparent that Fisker are still in the first stages of development just like my 1st gen Model 3 was when we picked it up. I have an Ocean Extreme on order as build quality is miles ahead of my Tesla and the roadmap for updates to the software will address all these small issues very soon. Seems to be trendy or on-point to bitch about Fisker at the moment, despite not many people driving or spending time with one…
It's not bad ! and has an onboard 230v supply rated at 3000 watts which is pretty handy, also very handy is it is spacious, looks cool and you can put all the rear seats down should you buy a fridge or washing machine and want to get it home ASAP !... It does seem a bit dark and gloomy inside, so a lighter colour interior would be more cheerful... I do like the long range on the top model along with a 4.1 second 0-60mph time !.... if only there was a mute button to stop all that annoying beeping, I would love to buy this car !... the rear end does look like it was inspired by the Alfa Romeo Cloverleaf of the 1990's/2000's... I like this car.
If there's a delay of 5 seconds for that launch 0-60 does your tech gear take that into account?
the timing gear is based on accelerometer and gps. the timing will begin once it senses movement
@@hamdanali2036 thank you
Why did you name the thumb nail that? 😂😂😂 very original carwow
@MKBHD here the solar panel readings are shown
I'm all for technology but shit everytime I see cars where you have to operate the fans through the screen I get a stroke, that's madness
20:28 - there's a definite spock vibe going on. You kept that quite :)
If you do the California mode in California you’ll lose your kidneys
7:11 works really well, lol 😂
That rear touch screen looked like the least responsive device I've ever seen
0:24 I bet that's a Gordon Murray Automotive T.50 making that noise
I simply don't understand the resistance to Tesla's swipe to go feature. I use the auto select feature and love it. Rarely do I need to select manually. When I do it's no different then finding a shift lever. I get it, everyone wants a stick shift, so they can be a big bad racer. LoL!
Annnnnd they're filing for Bankruptcy lol, what a joke
this is the 4th time for Fisker
The area of a car roof wouldn't give you anywhere near an effective charge, even on a sunny day. To get a meaningful charge - while you parked for example - you would need a solar array the size of a tennis court.....
Yep. Total gimmick. Be better off removing it and all associated wiring etc and saving weight.
1500-2000 miles a year is not insignificant
@@dabulls1g Well maybe not, but if some potential buyers felt the car would be charged up on a sunny day while they went shopping, or had a picnic, they'd end up disappointed. Sort of in the same way some early adopters of the Toyota Prius seemed to feel their cars would charge up while parked, because they'd been told they were "self charging"..........The concept of solar on a car roof is fine in itself, but just don't expect huge returns from it. I'd be surprised if you saw 1500 miles per year return....
The size of that infotainment screen though. So unnecessarily huge
Trying to out-do Tesla....
thats what she didn't say
Thats a selling point for some of us. As a techy person, Its one of the things I want in an EV. A large, functional infotainment display with essential apps.
Its not much bigger than the tesla screen lol
It's because of the bad comfort on bumpy roads, your pointing finger will be all over the place 😂
Game over Tesla...very funny Matt🤣
Can you give the timestamp?
Correction: The first X5 was not designed by Fisker but by Frank Stephenson - who has a very nice RUclips channel on his own, explaining a lot of things he did in the past and what cars he designed.
You are were putting 2 things in forground which are from my point of view very low issues and not only comming with the Ocean. The lane assist is even in my 10 year old Mazda 6 a source for always binging if you put it on. And also in the Ocean you can switch it off, even when you like to drive on country roads and change the lane. The other source for binging is the 'FI-Pilot' / speed checker. This features is in europe for all new cars a must feature by regulation. But also here you can switch it to only optical. After this two minor settings you can drive silent or enjoy the fantastic sound system.
Come on Mat, you should know by now that EVERY car will go on default safety settings nowadays. That has been since 2021 when a NEW (so not a facelift) car is introduced. Just EU (NCAP points) regulations, nothing to do with a brand.
Yep stuff like Lane assists is on by default by regulation now. In my kia though you can press an hold a button on the wheel to turn it off. Don't have to dig in a menu then. It's a perfectly fine system on a main road. It's down right lethal on a back road or country lane in the UK. They definitely did not think about it.
@@0tispunkm3y3rIt can only be lethal because it's not properly calibrated. That's the carmaker's job - some do it better, some worse. Kia is one of the latter
About 20 years ago, Mazda gave the 929 solar panels on the roof which kept the AC running while parked. Now THAT was genius. No more getting back into a boiling car.
That's incredible. Why did nobody else do this?
@@chrisc475 Even Mazda didn't repeat it as far as I know. Car manufacturers will happily add any option that sells. If Joe Public is too stupid to buy it, then they'll have thought "F@!k-em then. Let em roast."
More like 30 years ago - 1992-1994 MAZDA 929 had this feature
@@kkgolf5371 Time flies when you're getting old.
@@chrisc475look into the production of solar panels it’s not great unfortunately 😅
You've gotta do a collab with Thomas and James from Throttle House!! It will be EPIC!!
Fisker is supposed to release the 2.0 version of the software for this car on a OTA update. Hopefully it improves a bunch of the faults which seem to be software related.
Funny how the rear right map light was on during the driving part (17:05) probably after Mat turned touched it at 14:18
Nobody is buying this loaded Ocean over a Model Y Performance. What I am much more interested about is the 37k version of this Fisker! That one should be the more interesting one!!
I think you'll find that the opposite is true
If you compare the built and the interior on both cars you will change your mind. Also you cannot compare performance as they are in a different category
@@iliascharitonidis6950 Exterior and interior are the BEST part of the Fisker. Personally I love the design of the Ocean. Sadly, it's worst part is the tech and how unreliable it is according to every single reviewer. Hence why most will end up going with a Tesla in the end, even if they picked the Ocean first.
@@3lgonViewModel Y is the most sold car on the earth. It takes much more than this buggy car to change something on that
It's quite literally under federal investigation for safety concerns in the US. I doubt they're making safer UK models
This is nonsense and most likely competitors making complaints. I own the Ocean and it’s perfectly safe. Apparently four people made complaints now compare that to Tesla complaints
Tesla has recalled at least once all of vehicles they have already sold. Some of the reasons are below: steering problems, defective rearview cameras, mounting bracket manufacturing flaws, Autopilot malfunctions, failure of low brake fluid warning lights, weak third and second-row seats, steering wheels that fall off, faulty suspension parts, and doors that unlock during a crash.
Don't know what MKBHD was on about this car is pretty good
He's not as well versed on car as he is on cell phones.
MKBHD is an iPhone clown
The solar roof is a prime example of the juice not being worth the squeeze. There is no way to justify the cost of the roof compared to paying for 1.5 charging sessions.
its optional lmao
Interesting how Tamm and MKDHD had same software glitches and both mentioned that this probably exclusive to their car )
I imagine when these are one the second hand market, the number of remaining launches will really affect the price
using 500 boosts will prob cause more long term damage to the car. no one uses launch mode on their tesla more than even half that
@@Tacocat123 You’re right. I doubt the battery would have much life left after 500.
It isn't something you need to worry about unduly. You probably won't see one of these on the used market for some time... Buyers will be wary of new unknown makes for a while yet....
$1400 (CAD) for the coat. Matt....what realm are you living in?
He owns a Porsche 911 GT3 RS and an Audi R8 Spyder, what do you expect?
I mean, he has a GT3RS.. An expensive coat is like you buying a pack of gum.
Hes rich that's why
You think he paid for it? Mate's rates!
a good coat should cost that much
He was just flexing with 1000usd jacket :D
And while testing the Dacia Spring did the same with his expensive wrist watch...
the he clearly didn't pay for
@@M3PH11 Thats even better :)
Saw one in Malibu CA
That steering wheel is horrific and would literally be a deal breaker for me… I had a VW that had one shaped pretty much like that and, while it looks great in the laboratory, the shape means that when you relax your hand position on long drives, you tend to rest the pad of the base of your thumb on the oval “point” of the rim and it cuts off circulation after a while. It’s designed for the shape between your index and thumb but, apart from shop window dummies, nobody holds their hand like that.
The beeping/alarms should have been worked out in the testing, prior to the release of the vehicle. For sure, but I am confident Fisker will work out these kinks and many of the issues look like they can be resolved via software.
Bro took "inspiration" from the evoque. 😅
In the headlight only
definitely. rear looks so much like it. overall body shape,windows etc. too.
Mat Flexing again 🤣
No mention at all of the complete lack of a glovebox? Really, Matt, that deserves to be covered.
in my car lane departure works greats when its daytime but when you need it most when its dark it does not.
Far too much stuff is being added to “the screen” in cars. It’s REALLY annoying! They’re all a pain to navigate, especially if you’re driving. You can’t feel what you’re pressing, so you HAVE to look away from the road. We had a Focus courtesy car with the climate control on the screen, it was really awkward to get the right temp. In our own focus the climate control is done with physical dials, I don’t need to look at them at all to know if I’m turning it up or down, I can just feel it. Then as soon as I’ve done that I can move the blowers, adjust my steering wheel, adjust the seat etc, all without having to navigate to different screens! Hate screens in cars!!
Fisker failed as a car company a decade ago, why not go for round two 😂
People forget tesla had all kinds of problems and bugs when they launched... people invested in fisker thinking it will be the next tesla immediately thats not how things work in reality... to put it in perspective tesla was founded in 2003 and only in 2020 they had their first profit year...fisker is a new company with vision be patient
You're ignoring first movers advantage. Tesla could make mistakes that Fisker can't. If they didn't know this, then they deserve to go bankrupt.
Fisker designed the Tesla Model S. Fisker designed and sold the Fisker Karma. Sold to a Chinese company, it became the Karma Revero.
From Fisker Automotive to Fisker Inc., not a new company at all.
I'm sure they will get the bugs worked out through OTA updates and if they do I think it will sell pretty well because it's a damn good looking SUV. Whomever came up with the boost counter idea should be kept on a short leash because it will only hurt it's value and it makes people think the end is near as it approaches zero.
Fisker going bankrupt. Dont buy this car
That's why I want to buy one.. reminds me of the Delorean
They're going bankrupt....... for a second time. Sad because the Karma was a really good looking car. Henrick Fisker is a brilliant designer. Just not a brilliant businessman.
The reliability of an Yugo.
Why does this car exist?
Even the company doesn’t know
Cause Henry family can have we executive jobs I kid you his wife if CFO and his daughter is President.
They are pretty ,and not driven much in Europe ,so if you a single man ,girls like uniqueness ❤
I saw one today at school ☠️
Just saw one of these today with a temp tag on it in TN of all places (not very EV friendly state) driving into my neighborhood. Not sure if was a demonstrator or an actual purchased vehicle.
I think the "divider" was actually to hold the cover underneath or am I crazy?
The company is now bankrupt. Obsolete product
Yep
Another unaffordable car , I miss carwow review cheap cars back in the day , now they review cars only for billionaires to watch
They have a showroom in Amsterdam,they look great sat in them
i personally think the car currently has too many software bugs
so happy with no heads up display hate that crap