It's clear that our time with the Fisker Ocean was a disappointment, with its buggy software and many livability issues giving us headaches. And on top of that, the company is now bankrupt, leaving owners in the lurch. If you owned an Ocean, what would you try to do with it at this point? Sell it like us, or something more creative? Let us know in the comments below!
@@Jeez001 WRONG IMC architecture is just the Connectivity 5G infotainment platform which Arcfox hired Magna to develop. The actual power train of the cars have nothing in common. Magna is a major Tier 1 supplier they very much only do certain parts of OEM cars.
@@Neojhunthey share the same platform that’s why they had to use magna to build it and they kept the information hidden. That’s why the next Fisker model Pear which was developed on their own platform could be built by anyone..
As an owner, I will point out you were using the key fob wrong. The NFC reader is on the left hand side where the logo is. Also there is a person out there who is selling additional key fobs and NFC cards so I now have 2 fobs and 2 cards. Makes me feel a little better, but the water pump recall is not great since there is no one to replace the pumps and if they go bad, the car goes into limp mode. How can it go bad? Just driving with heat on. Not a big deal here in Colorado where it never gets cold. I love driving this car, but it gives me daily nightmares of the possibility of breaking and not having support. The FOA is doing amazing things and making progress. Grateful for the volunteers there doing all the work
History is funny to go back and watch. Understanding the key fob issue, you can touch the fob to the door handle and it will open, and touch it to the left side interior panel and it will recognize. But not to dilute the pain early owners felt, especially for a $70k car, I would up buying one for $26k, and it's been a month and I love. Already 1,148 miles, 2 round trips to LA, and a non-stop Vegas run, and the car drives like a champ. No issues, other than rear reading lights pop on and off during night driving. But next to my 2010 BMW 550GT, this has been my favorite car ever. I really wish they had kept it together, got the software right and continued developing the car, but it is what it is. Too bad society will miss out on having the Fisker Pear, an 250-range EV for $30k new, but I'm sure we'll survive somehow.
happens on a lot of cars that use digital camera signals instead of analog signals. digital doesn't even necessarily give a better picture, just ask the FPV community and they'll be pretty open about how analog cameras can be better in low light... like reversing at night
@@jlolment WTF that is just wrong. In FPV Analogue connection massively worse image quality than Digital. The important advantage is extremely low latency. That's insane you defied a basic fact.
@@jlolment AFIK no modern Back illuminated CMOS big surface area sensor for excellent low light is designed for analogue output. DSP Processing is a major piece of image pipeline to achieve that cleaner night time images. Factually speaking a modern digital sensors is far superior than analogue especially for reversing at night.
@@Neojhun I can buy a caddx ratel for $30 retail, plus shipping. It's better in low light and clearer in any condition than any digital backup camera in any car today.
That EV range is really impressive and the California Mode looks like a lot of fun which is lacking in so many crossovers. Remember folks, don't let your wife be the CFO and lose the money that customers are paying you!!!
This car should have never, EVER, been sold to the public. Matt Farah of The Smoking Tire told them to take it back and wouldn’t publish a review it was so bad. This is what happens when Tesla ships cars that are incomplete. Other startups think this behavior is ok.
The 2.2 software release fixed many of the issues including FOB performance and bluetooth connectivity. It also added duel-axle regen for much smoother braking. I wonder why they didn't mention that at all.
17,100 on my ONE- just did a 230 mile round trip in cold (32 degree)and car performed flawlessly (a few wonk wonk alerts due to extreme fog, but even my brother’s 2023 Model Y does this in bad weather). Range dropped about 10% from warm weather driving and the lack of battery preconditioning plays a part in this- but ALL EV’s suffer in cold weather range. I am waiting on 2.2 update and have ordered 20” rims and Blizzak snow tires for the winter as i am looking forward to taking it over some mountain passes this year. As long as the car is safe, i plan to drive it as long as i can get support for any issues- and thanks to a network of mobile and in-location service partners, i am good for at least the short term.
I really wanted this car to succeed. That being said I’m extremely happy I decided to hold off on gen1 hoping for a gen2. I didn’t expect them to fold and I didn’t expect them to fold as fast as they did. Sadly Fisker is a grifter or just really inept at business… or both.
The guy is putting the FOB on the RIGHT side of the steering column to demonstate how the NFC reader doesn't work. It is on the LEFT side, there is an obvious icon. Another person has already pointed this out. If your fob battery dies, you just swipe it on the driver door handle and tap it to the NFC reader. JUST LIKE A TESLA.... This review is a bit embellished to put it mildly. Yes the depreciation is bad, but buying a used one now may give you a high end EV with class leading range for the lowest price possible. Yes, it could be a gamble. Got one for $38k, so far no issues and >5k miles.
Its also flat out lazy. Marques was the original negative nelly because he was too cool to read the basic operating instructions and then complained about car not going into gear when his SEATBELT was not fastened , and also did the wrong location with NFC reader.
It’s really fortunate for VW they launch iD vehicles during covid and the shortages that came with it. Most of the issue Fisker Ocean has is what 2021 VW iD4 had until 2023.
I waited 19 years 10:00 after the start of my EV manufacturer to buy one of their EVs. Even though I bought the first year of my model launch, the companies history convinced me it was a fair gamble. Nonetheless my current depreciation is around 35%, still better than the US average 50% first year EV ownership depreciation rate.
I wouldn't put down a deposit....but Rivian is in better shape financially since bigger companies own slices of it. Just wait for the R2 to come out, let them work out the bugs for a year or two and then buy one.
Lindholm bil in Viborg in Denmark actually still sell Fisker Ocean , they provide 3 years fully guarantee and leasing via their own bank. Even rather cheap insurance. I think you should contact the company and ask how they do Lindholm TV can be seen on RUclips
This was one of those cars with so much showroom appeal in the form of “California mode” and the built in trays. Then you own it and see how maddening and incomplete the product is for day-to-day use.
Best thing you can do it break it up for parts for sale or donation to a college building project cars, but keep the seats to turn into office furniture.
Fisker and his wife treated their Employee like garbage. He made his wife who has no exp CFO of a car company and she used to harass and yell at employees constantly. Go read some of the employee reviews in forums..
From what I know the SW updates (though not many) beyond 2.2 shall be provided by FOA & AM LEASE. Also, Android auto/car play, one pedal drive along some improvements are planned.
I bet in like 5 years, someone is going to find all of the workarounds to the firmware, program a bunch of hacks and fixes, and create the “ultimate” Fisker Ocean: an Ocean that’s no longer an alpha test project. $13000 for a high performance electric car would be a great deal, if it can actually do “car things”, like unlocking the door to get into the car and drive Fisker should’ve just done what Xiaomi did, get a big company to build the car for you with your own custom touches
Too bad about Fisker. I have been following this car because I liked its design, innovations, and the directions it was going in. They just were not able to move quick enough to catch the EV wave at its peak and survive long enough to become profitable. Maybe someone else will take over and make it so.
@@djplonghead5403Actually, they needed a completely different management team. Fisker knows nothing about running a company. I wouldn't trust him and his wife with a lemonade stand.
It'll be awhile in the US anyway we will have an EV with that California mode feature. I'll doubt they do this but I think Chrysler should bring the PT Cruiser in EV form.
It's clear that they were desperate for funds and prematurely released the product in hopes to build enough money to OTA the fixes later. I work for an OEM and the state they released it is the state of when my company builds very first prototypes when everything is buggy and barely works. But obviously OEMs don't release vehicles in this state to the public and over time things get fixed and tuned to a finished product.
05:00 this seems just extreemly stupid to me... I have a 20 year old Honda in which the keyless part stopped working a year ago, so we just use the actual key. Problem solved.
If there is ever a chance to re engine the ocean into gasoline, I would buy it. It looks great, unique, the design challenges norms and just rare like the karma.
Its no big deal. I just use Extreme mode when i want to embarrass the tuner morons with the burping farting exhaust systems at the red lights. 17,100 miles on my ONE and ZERO boosts used so far.
I owe one and don’t have most of mentioned software issues. Maybe it’s because I got car with 2.1 software already. For me personally, the problems are: 1) daily battery drain is about 1,5% (seems to have been fixed in 2.2) 2) car rolls back until we enter hold mode (seems to have been fixed in 2.2) 3) annoying speed limit assistance and lane departure assistance which I have to turn off every time 4) no Android Auto / CarPlay 5) no top view 360 cameras 6) no adaptive cruise 7) engine imitation sound is a bit annoying, no possibility to change or turn off As far as FOA took control over OTA I hope they fix some of these problems in future. And I still didn’t get 2.2, hope to aquire it soon Positives for me are: 1) cool look; 2) very comfort suspension 3) very comfort seats 4) long range
I feel somewhat bad for the buyers but also not really. You bought from a company that’s named after a guy who’s done this crap before. You should know better.
How is it decent if it no longer has updates and only a handful of grassroots service centers? No working keyfob that they only got one of for cost cutting, few of its initially advertised features, woeful UI/infotainment that doesn’t connect properly, losing 80% of its value in less than a year…
Yep. I can see why the US is threatening 100% tariffs of BYD and other Chinese EVs 😂😂. They would absolutely dominate. Even Tesla wouldnt be safe. Would be a repeat of the Toyota/Honda duocracy.
With 100% tariffs I would still buy a Chery V23 today. It's an affordable EV overlanded that doesn't exist (and with protectionist tariffs may ever exist) in the US market.
It's clear that our time with the Fisker Ocean was a disappointment, with its buggy software and many livability issues giving us headaches. And on top of that, the company is now bankrupt, leaving owners in the lurch. If you owned an Ocean, what would you try to do with it at this point? Sell it like us, or something more creative? Let us know in the comments below!
Y'all were tapping the key fob on the wrong spot when trying to start the fisker, the NFC is on the left side by the knee not right
As a 'member of the public' thank you for taking a chance and protecting the rest of us from a similar experience.
If carmax says dump it, potential buyers should run too.
When I originally heard Magna was building the Ocean, I actually had a lot of hope it wouldn’t be so buggy and may last…. Boy was I wrong 😂
It’s actually based on Chinese EV which magna worked on called Arcfox Alpha
@@Jeez001 WRONG IMC architecture is just the Connectivity 5G infotainment platform which Arcfox hired Magna to develop. The actual power train of the cars have nothing in common. Magna is a major Tier 1 supplier they very much only do certain parts of OEM cars.
@@Neojhunthey share the same platform that’s why they had to use magna to build it and they kept the information hidden. That’s why the next Fisker model Pear which was developed on their own platform could be built by anyone..
As an owner, I will point out you were using the key fob wrong. The NFC reader is on the left hand side where the logo is. Also there is a person out there who is selling additional key fobs and NFC cards so I now have 2 fobs and 2 cards. Makes me feel a little better, but the water pump recall is not great since there is no one to replace the pumps and if they go bad, the car goes into limp mode. How can it go bad? Just driving with heat on. Not a big deal here in Colorado where it never gets cold.
I love driving this car, but it gives me daily nightmares of the possibility of breaking and not having support. The FOA is doing amazing things and making progress. Grateful for the volunteers there doing all the work
History is funny to go back and watch. Understanding the key fob issue, you can touch the fob to the door handle and it will open, and touch it to the left side interior panel and it will recognize. But not to dilute the pain early owners felt, especially for a $70k car, I would up buying one for $26k, and it's been a month and I love. Already 1,148 miles, 2 round trips to LA, and a non-stop Vegas run, and the car drives like a champ. No issues, other than rear reading lights pop on and off during night driving. But next to my 2010 BMW 550GT, this has been my favorite car ever. I really wish they had kept it together, got the software right and continued developing the car, but it is what it is. Too bad society will miss out on having the Fisker Pear, an 250-range EV for $30k new, but I'm sure we'll survive somehow.
Screen lag while in reverse?! That might be the worst thing I've ever heard about a modern car.
Ford Maverick has a recall for this right now
happens on a lot of cars that use digital camera signals instead of analog signals. digital doesn't even necessarily give a better picture, just ask the FPV community and they'll be pretty open about how analog cameras can be better in low light... like reversing at night
@@jlolment WTF that is just wrong. In FPV Analogue connection massively worse image quality than Digital. The important advantage is extremely low latency. That's insane you defied a basic fact.
@@jlolment AFIK no modern Back illuminated CMOS big surface area sensor for excellent low light is designed for analogue output. DSP Processing is a major piece of image pipeline to achieve that cleaner night time images. Factually speaking a modern digital sensors is far superior than analogue especially for reversing at night.
@@Neojhun I can buy a caddx ratel for $30 retail, plus shipping. It's better in low light and clearer in any condition than any digital backup camera in any car today.
That EV range is really impressive and the California Mode looks like a lot of fun which is lacking in so many crossovers.
Remember folks, don't let your wife be the CFO and lose the money that customers are paying you!!!
This car should have never, EVER, been sold to the public. Matt Farah of The Smoking Tire told them to take it back and wouldn’t publish a review it was so bad. This is what happens when Tesla ships cars that are incomplete. Other startups think this behavior is ok.
The 2.2 software release fixed many of the issues including FOB performance and bluetooth connectivity. It also added duel-axle regen for much smoother braking. I wonder why they didn't mention that at all.
All these review channels have agendas..
17,100 on my ONE- just did a 230 mile round trip in cold (32 degree)and car performed flawlessly (a few wonk wonk alerts due to extreme fog, but even my brother’s 2023 Model Y does this in bad weather). Range dropped about 10% from warm weather driving and the lack of battery preconditioning plays a part in this- but ALL EV’s suffer in cold weather range.
I am waiting on 2.2 update and have ordered 20” rims and Blizzak snow tires for the winter as i am looking forward to taking it over some mountain passes this year.
As long as the car is safe, i plan to drive it as long as i can get support for any issues- and thanks to a network of mobile and in-location service partners, i am good for at least the short term.
I really wanted this car to succeed. That being said I’m extremely happy I decided to hold off on gen1 hoping for a gen2. I didn’t expect them to fold and I didn’t expect them to fold as fast as they did. Sadly Fisker is a grifter or just really inept at business… or both.
The guy is putting the FOB on the RIGHT side of the steering column to demonstate how the NFC reader doesn't work. It is on the LEFT side, there is an obvious icon. Another person has already pointed this out. If your fob battery dies, you just swipe it on the driver door handle and tap it to the NFC reader. JUST LIKE A TESLA.... This review is a bit embellished to put it mildly. Yes the depreciation is bad, but buying a used one now may give you a high end EV with class leading range for the lowest price possible. Yes, it could be a gamble. Got one for $38k, so far no issues and >5k miles.
Its also flat out lazy. Marques was the original negative nelly because he was too cool to read the basic operating instructions and then complained about car not going into gear when his SEATBELT was not fastened , and also did the wrong location with NFC reader.
It’s really fortunate for VW they launch iD vehicles during covid and the shortages that came with it.
Most of the issue Fisker Ocean has is what 2021 VW iD4 had until 2023.
Such a shame that a mechanically decent vehicle has been crippled by software.
I waited 19 years 10:00 after the start of my EV manufacturer to buy one of their EVs. Even though I bought the first year of my model launch, the companies history convinced me it was a fair gamble. Nonetheless my current depreciation is around 35%, still better than the US average 50% first year EV ownership depreciation rate.
ending was hilarious... nice sense of humr
I gave you a like and will watch a full ad to support your recovery of some cost 😂😂
Depreciation definitely bunkers and not unique to the Ocean. Ask owners who have over 20,000 miles with 2.2 - it’s a phenomenal machine!
5:00 hate to $h*t on ya’ll but with 30 seconds of reading you would know the NFC reader is near the headlight controls not on the right side….
Henrick needs to be prosecuted for fraud! His name will now forever be associated with trash on two accounts!
This is why I'm worried about putting a deposit on the Rivian R2. Worried if they'll be around in two years.
I wouldn't put down a deposit....but Rivian is in better shape financially since bigger companies own slices of it. Just wait for the R2 to come out, let them work out the bugs for a year or two and then buy one.
@@chrisss73841 Rivian won't be around in two years.
Biden just gave them 6.6 billion of our money to stay afloat, so they'll be around, and you technically own at least a part of one now. So that's nice
Well done!!!
Lindholm bil in Viborg in Denmark actually still sell Fisker Ocean , they provide 3 years fully guarantee and leasing via their own bank. Even rather cheap insurance.
I think you should contact the company and ask how they do
Lindholm TV can be seen on RUclips
This was one of those cars with so much showroom appeal in the form of “California mode” and the built in trays. Then you own it and see how maddening and incomplete the product is for day-to-day use.
I understand while Edmunds would buy from a startup but can’t fathom why people buy these unless that have serious money.
Best thing you can do it break it up for parts for sale or donation to a college building project cars, but keep the seats to turn into office furniture.
Fisker and his wife treated their
Employee like garbage. He made his wife who has no exp CFO of a car company and she used to harass and yell at employees constantly. Go read some of the employee reviews in forums..
The good range and comfortable ride had me hopeful for the Fisker Ocean. Sad that they couldn't make it work financially
Saw this on the road today...First thing I thought was "hey that's an expensive vehicle. They must be clueless"
From what I know the SW updates (though not many) beyond 2.2 shall be provided by FOA & AM LEASE. Also, Android auto/car play, one pedal drive along some improvements are planned.
I bet in like 5 years, someone is going to find all of the workarounds to the firmware, program a bunch of hacks and fixes, and create the “ultimate” Fisker Ocean: an Ocean that’s no longer an alpha test project. $13000 for a high performance electric car would be a great deal, if it can actually do “car things”, like unlocking the door to get into the car and drive
Fisker should’ve just done what Xiaomi did, get a big company to build the car for you with your own custom touches
Damn cool that Alistair is now the big boss. I was watching him do videos like this on Insideline some 15 years ago.
Thank you for your service and buying one of these so we didn't have to.
Fisker: The only brand that makes a Maserati look like a safe and wise investment
These cars are gonna sell great!
Too bad about Fisker. I have been following this car because I liked its design, innovations, and the directions it was going in. They just were not able to move quick enough to catch the EV wave at its peak and survive long enough to become profitable. Maybe someone else will take over and make it so.
They needed to pair with another company for the software
@@djplonghead5403Actually, they needed a completely different management team. Fisker knows nothing about running a company. I wouldn't trust him and his wife with a lemonade stand.
The owner of the liquor store in my neighborhood bought one of these and every time I see it I'm dying to know what made them decide to buy one.
It'll be awhile in the US anyway we will have an EV with that California mode feature. I'll doubt they do this but I think Chrysler should bring the PT Cruiser in EV form.
the car losing connectivity to me sounds like a huge plus. screw "connected" spyware cars.
How about giving it away to a lucky viewer
The DOJ shouldve forced Fisker to open source ~everything~ about the cars software, designs, etc so owners could get it fixed.
You really had big hopes 😢😂😂.
Keep it longer so you can show us how is to live with car from startup that gone under
Fiskar Ocean, all show and no go.
I don't know why anyone would buy that thing in the first place. No one saw it coming that Fisker wasn't really going to be viable automobile company?
Dunno… Cars and Bids prices live in the $20-30k range. Ouch😱
“We’re automotive professionals. Don’t try this at home .” Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂they’re not too bright.
Edmunds can write this purchase off on their taxes as a business expense -- so, no real loss.
might as well keep it now
Henrik Fisker’s name must be carved into automotive industry wall of shame.
I can see why they went bankrupt…..
It's clear that they were desperate for funds and prematurely released the product in hopes to build enough money to OTA the fixes later. I work for an OEM and the state they released it is the state of when my company builds very first prototypes when everything is buggy and barely works. But obviously OEMs don't release vehicles in this state to the public and over time things get fixed and tuned to a finished product.
@@kamilb8232 it seems all manufacturers release product without enough testing at times..but this was ridiculous
@Getusom Agreed. The rule to not buy the first year car is even more relevant in these recent times.
05:00 this seems just extreemly stupid to me... I have a 20 year old Honda in which the keyless part stopped working a year ago, so we just use the actual key. Problem solved.
Bro was tapping the key on the wrong side the whole time, NFC to start the car when fob battery is dead is on the left hand side of the steering wheel
I like ur corporate headquarters looks pretty sick
If there is ever a chance to re engine the ocean into gasoline, I would buy it. It looks great, unique, the design challenges norms and just rare like the karma.
ioniq5 N has boost mode and yet they never limit the usage.. Fisker really messed up
Its no big deal. I just use Extreme mode when i want to embarrass the tuner morons with the burping farting exhaust systems at the red lights. 17,100 miles on my ONE and ZERO boosts used so far.
Almost bought one of these until I found out about all these issues.
you guys got had
how much did henrick make from selling stock?
Fisker tried to become Land rover and Tesla at the same time with the budget of Lotus
Shame! Looks like such a nice platform vehicle! But at $70k…yeahhhh I would look at other manufacturers
Imagine being a family who spent $70,000 on this thing.
A small pack of cashews and a small bag of sourecream and onion chips for the Ocean.
Rather have the cashews...
War Eagle!
I owe one and don’t have most of mentioned software issues. Maybe it’s because I got car with 2.1 software already. For me personally, the problems are:
1) daily battery drain is about 1,5% (seems to have been fixed in 2.2)
2) car rolls back until we enter hold mode (seems to have been fixed in 2.2)
3) annoying speed limit assistance and lane departure assistance which I have to turn off every time
4) no Android Auto / CarPlay
5) no top view 360 cameras
6) no adaptive cruise
7) engine imitation sound is a bit annoying, no possibility to change or turn off
As far as FOA took control over OTA I hope they fix some of these problems in future. And I still didn’t get 2.2, hope to aquire it soon
Positives for me are:
1) cool look;
2) very comfort suspension
3) very comfort seats
4) long range
INSURANCE IS REAL.😂😂😂
I wonder if the software can be hacked and replaced with ...anything else...?
I have an ocean and joined the FOA. They have people looking into it right now
Clickbait, they fixed most issues with software update
Better do several Hail Mary’s before it conk out.
You got a lemon.
Paying $70000 for this is a big scam. And I wonder why the company went bankruptcy.
I feel somewhat bad for the buyers but also not really. You bought from a company that’s named after a guy who’s done this crap before. You should know better.
Next time lease the vehicle. Let them lose the value instead of you.
Leasing is like living in a hotel for the rest of your life
@@brandonpittman5243that sounds amazing 😂
@@brandonpittman5243so you’re saying buying this is the right move? lol ok 😅
@ no , the right move is spending the absolute minimum to get from a to b
@@brandonpittman5243 yes if you’re broke. It if you’re looking at a $70k EV I think your can afford to do whatever you want
Honestly how does edmunds have money to do any of this?
Just think the guys that open up a dealer just for it to go under
Fisker seams to mean Failure - is there anything he hasn't screwed up
Give it to Uncle Rich of RUclips channel Rich Rebuilds
Ill keep my 1964 Cadillac.
Some RUclipsr mechanic or car enthusiasts will buy this car and convert it into a V8 twin powered awd I.C.E
Y’all just letting Fisker have it, huh?… I say fair enough y’all pay 70,000 for it.😅
Who would even pay 20% of MSRP for any of these cars
At least with a car that doesn't rely on software it's not that bad it the company goes bankrupt.
Don't purchase anything based on "promised features"!!
Lol I thought I make bad decisions
That ev is decent still. Besides there are much worse evs that make this a million times better
ARE YOU HIGH? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE VIDEO?
How is it decent if it no longer has updates and only a handful of grassroots service centers? No working keyfob that they only got one of for cost cutting, few of its initially advertised features, woeful UI/infotainment that doesn’t connect properly, losing 80% of its value in less than a year…
You’re incorrect.
Also who are the two folks who like this comment? I’d love to know all of y’all’s logic … just arguing for the sake of? 😅
If ur gonna say this is decent EV still, while T/L EVs aren't, maybe you should buy that vehicle off Edmunds and enjoy the issues yourself
Hmmm, $13,500? Sounds like a bargain.
I know. Buy one and take it apart. Make a windmill with the motors and use the battery as a backup home power system. Sounds like fun.
If you can't drive it half the time, then no it's not a bargain.
You would be lucky to sell this suv for $20k
Although I love my Tesla. I believe I am done with evs.
Its a bummer. I've seen several on the road in the Bay Area and they are good looking vehicles
Definitely leasing is the way to go on these vehicles (and all the AI fem-bots love you guys)!
For $70k I'd rather have a 2001 911 turbo lol
I’ll give you 5k right now. Lol. CASH!
Somebody better save Nissan 😅
I thought the karma was ok, what happened with this?
I will buy it off you for 13.5k.
Yep. I can see why the US is threatening 100% tariffs of BYD and other Chinese EVs 😂😂. They would absolutely dominate. Even Tesla wouldnt be safe. Would be a repeat of the Toyota/Honda duocracy.
With 100% tariffs I would still buy a Chery V23 today. It's an affordable EV overlanded that doesn't exist (and with protectionist tariffs may ever exist) in the US market.
Except Tesla is doing great in China even with ALL chinese competitors, if anything we will have Tesla and BYD dominance in US market.
I never would have the patience for this POS.
Every electric vehicle has massive depreciation, wonder how long "Mr. Edmunds" will think it's a good idea to keep buying them
And people think American cars are bad...
People think Italian cars are bad. My 2019 Alfa Romeo Stelvio has been almost flawless. One issue covered under warranty and it’s been great.
Not sure what you mean but Fisker is (was) an American brand.
If crap chinese companies can give better and superb software for EV why can't an American EV company!!!
Because most of the money is going into pockets of executives instead of R and D