@@corrodesthefilm It's true. Without government incentives, EVs are substantially more expensive and unappealing than ICE. Moreover, they're not profitable either. Both consumers and manufacturers hate them but the marxist government regulations are forcing their adoption.
@@corrodesthefilm You don't even know that tesla makes it's profit by selling carbon credits. Get rid of the government help and tesla goes out of business.
I used to agree with that POV. But then I became one of the people fortunate enough to have anywhere I need to go including work within 5-10 miles of me. That said I'd never consider something like this as my only car unless my significant other has a gas car
@@aygwm Car buying is less about what people do, and more about what people think they do. Majority of customers shouldn’t have range anxiety about EVs, yet, it is one of the first objections people think of.
There are a few brands that go that way, smaller range. And in the end it is an argument that makes sense in more ways than we think. We got used to high range and it's understandable. One car does it all. City, holidays, week end lover trip etc. If we are forced to change energy, we will be forced to change our habits a little. Humans don't like changes, and the charger stations network over here is still too small for now. Things will settle in the future as we get used to it I think
@@Meetoon733 You're likely a prime candidate for the MX-30 or the MINI-E. A fun to drive short range EV that doesn't have to fulfill all the requirements of a single family vehicle.
Absolutely and the price is the worst part. If they are going to push all this BS for why its so bad then make it 15k and let college students afford it. At 35k they are either jerks or are completely clueless and I don't know which one is worse.
The goose just doesn't rest...respect. This is not my favorite design from Mazda, yet they still manage to create this slickness such that everything just blends in. Looking forward to what they have to offer in their new line up.
I absolutely love the design of this car, I think its not going to do well because it's both a niche car, and a suboptimal EV. EVs do bring new customers to a brand, not matter how much of a parts bin job they are.
I can see it working better in Europe & perhaps Japan where driving distance is much less than it is in the US, though it's still a bit of a hard sell because there's also better cars for the money here ( Peugeot 208e/2008e, Corsa e, etc ) One thing to say, nothing matches the interior quality on the price range.
It might be a better choice with a range extender with such a small battery for people who take longer trips every fortnight. The thing is so many EVs are so compromised no matter the price range there is nothing that beats a conventional car in terms of practicability.
The love and intention Mazda puts into their development is always something I will appreciate, even with big flaws like small interiors in passenger cars due to their minimalist philosophy.
It's a compliance car. No different than the Mercedes B250e, and embarrassingly similar in every way (down to the range and power output) only existing because California requires a company sells an EV alongside their ICE and Hybrid models to be allowed to sell cars. But this is far more interesting and modern than the B250e.
@@BlackMan614 I’m sure there is some minimum or other rules attached. Otherwise a company like Mazda would just bring 3 of them in and slap $150k price tags on them. That would satisfy their mandate while they get their Tesla direct compete together.
If the strategy on this is "compliance car", then they have to move them. They would have to be heavily discounted. FCA did that with the Fiat 500e which is the only reason you saw any of them out on the streets, really--the residuals on the leases were like $22,000 when the used prices were near $10k. When I returned my first one, they asked if I wanted to buy out the remainder and I laughed. When I returned my second one, three years later, they didn't even bother asking. :)
Mazda is a great company. This is a stepping stone. Really like the interior styling. Hoping they come out with an electric Mazda 3 hatchback or something
@@avuci as a four-time and current mazda owner, I totally agree. This is like their BMW i3. They're a little behind the ball - probably still trying to figure out how to fit a manual transmission to an EV lol
I have no interest in the car, but I ended up watching anyway, a testament to the quality of the review. I have to say though that Masada interior design are much better than Toyota’s, they could learn a thing or two.
Hell, savageese are great reviews no matter what. His review of the mazda 3 when I needed something new and cheap for work made me go out and try one and lease one right away. 2 years now, great car for the price.
Anecdotally, the initial quality of Mazda's interiors is better than Toyota's (and they're more interesting), but come year 5-10 there's going to be better fit and fewer squeaks and rattles in the Toyota.
Nice idea with the cork, i think it would somehow improve sound deadening without too much weight. Looking forward to what Mazda will do in the future.
I have an Mx-30 for about a year now, and I can honestly say its a great car for daily driving, and yes I do long distant trips with it. But I do wish it had longer range....and more room in back seats, other than that a fun car to drive, in back country side of Portugal.
Here in the uk 100 miles around cities is ample providing you have access to plenty of charge points en route Horses for courses really this car will fill some people’s needs perfectly Can’t knock build quality and value Roll on Mx - 40 pure EV body and increased range .
I'm in your same situation, in Italy. Do love my MX30 as it is, with a wish for the future: maybe after a consistent step in battery technologies, they will offer a switch deal. Mazda already said that, at the launch.. As per now, I do enjoy my lovely baby anyway! 👋😎👍
As the sole vehicle in a household, that's understandable. But like the MINI-E with similar range, the MX-30 will likely appeal to couples/families with at least one other driver where a short range EV can assume a considerable portion of the total miles of driving required.
@@nextleveljourney6612 Isn't that 100 miles in optimal conditions? Take into consideration traffic and running AC, you're probably down to 80. It may work for a few people, but you have to drive far in CA to get anywhere. Why would you get a car with such limited range, when better alternatives exists for the same price?
@@nextleveljourney6612 Sorry to burst your bubble but 100 mile round-trip daily commutes may not be typical but they are definitely not unusual in many places. I live on an island in the Puget Sound about 50 miles from downtown Seattle. Many of my neighbors (not me, thank God) make that trip at least five days a week. The same can be said for commuters in the Bay Area or Los Angeles regions in California.
"I hope this doesn't hurt them." Yeah, I respect Mazda and hope for that, as well: that this highly-compromised, uncompetitive, first attempt at an EV doesn't hurt them too badly, in people's minds. They really needed a more-suitable platform for this.
Honest question - can they afford to build their own, true EV platform? Not sure what the stakes are, but their pockets have always been much shallower than their competitors. I suppose if they can pull off this incremental development approach without creating too negative of a brand perception they might be able to swing it. Just don't know how much it really costs at the platform level. Otherwise, it seems to me they'll need to partner with Toyota/Fuji/Rivian to get anywhere.
(and then hope that they have a desirable enough package that gives them leverage back to co-develop/or badge-engineer models/licenses to be more profitable)
Mazda are going to all turbos and all wheel drive, when I looked at one today. You do not have a choice. They lost me on the newer vehicle. Toyota and Lexus give you better choices, now.
@@stevemiller1626 True but that brings up a rather good point. VW is more in the business of selling platforms than they are vehicles, and one has to wonder whom in the BEV would would be willing to sell their platform for use? Because I can't think of one off the top of my head. VW tends to keep it's platforms internal to sister subsidiaries. Toyota doesn't do BEV's. Maybe Stellantis but, I am not sure that anyone wants to deal with their BEV platforms as of yet, or Hyundai but last I checked it too tends to keep it's platforms internal to sister subsidiaries.
I leased a sub-100 mile range EV for six years (two three-year leases). It was just my commuter, and if I didn't have chargers at work, it would've been a non-starter. But I was okay with that, because the Fiat 500e was a $100/mo lease--they were giving them away. I can't see how the MX-30 is going to sell. Mazda is too late to the game with this and the cost is too high. When it came time to replace the Fiat, I decided I wanted something that could be more flexible, and so now I'm in a Hyundai Kona Electric. It's the same price range as the MX-30, but it has 250 mile range. It's a great car. I can't imagine going back to the restrictive range feeling I had with the Fiat. I also don't understand how this could be good in California. Californians drive, a lot. Everything's spread out. Maybe if you lived just in Los Angeles or San Francisco, this would work, but it'd be hard to go between LA and SD for instance, and no one wants to sit on a charger for 30 minutes or more just to make it home. A shame, because I really do like the looks and feel of the MX-30. The range and price kills it.
Having owned a sub-80 mile range EV, I feel your pain. Nissan Leaf could have owned the market, but lack of battery management and ultra poor range on early models showed a half assed effort. The MX30 is such an effort. All attention was paid to the interior while the battery pack and electric motors were largely ignored. 100 mile range is laughable in 2021. Tesla is getting 300 miles out of their Y, which is very similar in size , but not cost. You get what you pay for and that’s why Tesla is killing it in BEV sales. At this point, Tesla is so far ahead of everyone else in BEV technology ,it’ll be years before many can catch up.
Leased a Kia Soul great for commuting to and from school and work if your commute is under 40 miles , it got old pretty quick, in southern Cali started driving too much , limited public charging plus those plug in hybrids hog up all the spots ,
@@alexnutcasio936 And after 10 years in a Tesla, you'll need a $20,000 battery replacement. No thanks. Tesla is rated 25 out of 26 vehicle manufacturers for reliability. Performance is handy for the wealthy who don't need to keep the same vehicle for 10 years but now that Toyota is focusing hard on solid state batteries, Tesla technology is starting to fade.
It seems to me that most commuters in the San Diego area commute less than 100 miles per day. I'd say 80 or less is typical. My commute was about 25 - 30 miles per day.
I have a similar car, Ford Focus Electric which has been fun. If the Mazda came out around 2015 it might have at least made a splash. But I just don't know who, even in California, would want this.
I am considering this. Living in the city with my commute to work being just 6-7 miles the range is not an issue. In fact I think it is a bonus I won't be buying a hauling a lot of batteries around that I would use maybe once a year. I am also considering the Honda option, it is more special in its looks and also interior, only I wonder if that will might get old really fast where the Mazda is just more like a normal car.
They seem like used ones are very cheap, probably because no one wants them, but I stumbled on one at CarMax and it has me intrigued, it's a 2022 premium plus with 13k miles for 26k. Not too bad for an EV!
I agree. I like the idea of an electric car, but I don't want all the controls to be reimagined. I want to be able to get into an electric car and just use it, not fiddle with touch screens and wonder how I put it in drive, reverse, or turn on the windshield wipers. I wish there was an auto maker that had the courage to just make an electric car with conventional controls. They're getting distracted by gadgets instead of getting down to the brass tacks of making a usable and affordable electric car.
I honestly thought I’d hate the center pad thing, but after a week of driving it felt totally normal. I would agree that the UI could be better, but I do most things with voice command. Also, at night it’s amazing to not have ANY light coming from the dash. It’s relaxing af.
The center screen is the best part of driving a Model 3/Y. You never have to hunt around looking for what you need it's always right there in the same place. Heads up display for speed/speed limit and nav would be nice to have but far from necessary.
As a "design" this is pretty cool. If the interior concept started getting applied in vehicles like the mazda 3 I think they could see a whole new pool of customers come in.
I absolutely HATE these crossovers. I don't know why anyone likes them, personally. Either be a car or an SUV, but not both. This looks like a flying turtle.
It's clear to see that Mazda tried it's best with the MX-30 but it just feels so compromised in many ways. And over 30k for a "prove of concept" is a tough pill to swallow. Also the EV segment is gonna get more and more competitive. I guess we'll see what lessons Mazda has learnt here with their first dedicated EV platform.
I'm of the opinion that Mazda is testing the waters and trying to stay within expected regulatory norms; given (irrational) goals of eventual mandated EV sales. Overall, they probably will still need to stick to their core niche: Skyactive X and improving the ICE engine.
EV enthusiasts call such cars as the MX-30 as "compliance cars". A half-baked, underspecced EV built only because they have to (and using smaller batteries means Mazda, out of the same amount of battery material, can build more zero emission cars to lower their EU WLTP CO2 fleet emission average or CAFE emission average). On the other hand, Mazda policy of smaller battery sizes DOES allow battery material to be distributed between more vehicles, meaning more EVs can be built and sold, which is better for the environment than a smaller number of EVs being built and sold with unnecessarily supersized batteries that hoard battery material. EV enthusiasts on the other hand, seem to prefer very, very large batteries in their vehicles. It's all terribly confusing!
Awesome insight & commentary. Was interesting to see the info from Mazda directly. Hoping this does help them build the foundation towards hybridization and an electric-first design/architecture.
The center console looks very clean. I have the 2017 CX-5 and don’t like that shiny plastic collects dust and scratches. Excited to see what comes out in the future.
You are the only person that can give an informed view on this car. If this were a hybrid, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I live in a small metro area and would never need more than 30 miles each day. The bigger issue is not having access to charging stations. It will be a long time before apartment communities have charging stations. I also see huge issues once EV's become more common as the infrastructure is not growing fast enough.
Very interesting. This would actually work for me. I have a 21’ CX-5 right now, came out of 16’ Mazda 3, and had a 6 and an old CX-7 as my first car. Mazda is affordable, reliable, and somewhat spirited. I have to root for this vehicle however compromised this is currently. And I want to root for it. Baby steps. Kinda cool. The range would not be a problem for me as this would not be a primary vehicle. Kind of a cool novelty. Thanks fro bringing us this MX-30. The price is a little high before credits.
You had a '16 and a '21. I would hope cars that age are reliable. I wouldn't even mention reliability until the car is 9+ yrs old. Unless we're talking about ze germans of course
Even though this is clearly a compliance car, consider this. I bet 100 mile range is plenty for most people. Here is why. First of all, the only opinions on range that actually matter are the ones who are actually buying these cars, for better or for worse. 100 miles a day is roughly 20,000 miles a year (100 miles a day x 5 days a week x 4 weeks a month x 12 months a year = 24k miles rounded down for vacation, etc) On average most people drive well under that. 100 miles of range is PLENTY but people are never satisfied with well enough. These are the same kinds of people that insist they NEED more power, more space, more range, more everything. Tesla Plaid, do you REALLY NEED 1000 HP in an EV? No. No you don’t. Any 3500 series diesel truck, do you REALLY NEED 30k pounds of towing? No. No you really don’t. Mclaren 765LT, do you REALLY need shorter gearing? No. No you really don’t. Dodge TRX, do you really NEED a hellcat engine in a Ram? No. Not even a little. Yet here we are. If people were truly honest with themselves, putting their pride and insecurities away, MX30 is an ideal car in the same way a Honda Ridgeline is an ideal truck. No one wants to admit that. Even though this is a compliance car much in the same way the Fiat 500E, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, and Mercedes B-Class were, this is an ideal car for people who don’t kid themselves. Those cars are more or less ideal EVs too (Bolts catching fire not withstanding) I really like the use of cork though, that’s real clever. Never thought of that, now I’m imagining cars with cork interiors, wild!
I would lease one. I have a 30 mile commute, I live in California, and with the federal tax credit and the state rebate, this $33,000 car turns into a $24,000 car. I don't know, it seems like a pretty decent deal considering all the standard equipment, you can go in the carpool lane, etc.
Japanese car developers are like the folks who are asked to describe the meaning of their tattoos. It's like, "Bro, it's just a fish." They made an EV because they're trying to keep up with the trend but did it as cheaply as possible.
Or they did it because they have to, because they desperately need to lower their EU WLTP fleet emissions average in any way possible (they will be fined per car if they average above 95 g CO2/km in 2021, and 68 g CO2/km by 2032)? :) The EU-market Mazdas are all detuned ICEs with mild hybrid systems, unlike those sold elsewhere, because low CO2 output is the number one priority of European regulators.
Hey I know exactly where you were going up that windy hill! Modjeska grade road. I just mountain biked up there! Cool to see you so close by! Thanks for another awesome review
just went to the dealer and saw this, its very cool inside, but only 100mile range , 2022 with 27,000 miles asking $19K, the interior of the high trim model is Beautiful
I think the MX-30 has accomplished it's goal. It has made me excited for the MX-50 (or whatever they call it) when Mazda builds a ground-up EV. I'm excited to see what Mazda does to make a true Mazda EV.
..it kinda is a true mazda EV just not from the ground up. sure the range is poor but this is double edged sword. with a larger battery pack you would get worse efficiency, and worse handling and brake distance due to more weight. also longer charge times. for the vast majority of people who have this as a second car for local use, the range is of little concern
Nice video. I'm always interested in affordable EV's as a current Bolt owner. I love my car, but I might have to replace it when it catches on fire... LOL! Side note - Any connection to Rally Cycling? I noticed the hat.
If I can pull a $200/mo lease on this thing, and still had a daily commute to work (20 miles away), I’d definitely pull the trigger on this. But because of Covid, I only go to the office once every 2 weeks, so my MX-5 does just fine.
I feel like when the range extender version comes out this will be a much more appealing car. I really really wanted to justify getting one of these when they become available in my area but ultimately the range is the limiting factor. Maybe if fast charging only took 15 minutes, but it’s still longer then most cars. Hopefully they come out with something better in the future.
It’s also available in Canada this fall, only in Quebec and British-Colombia! I’m excited to check it out, but I love road trips a bit too much and would need a bigger range. Patiently waiting for their plug-in hybrids, those I’m excited about.
The interior space is a really nice take for an EV, reminds me of the Honda E. But unfortunately both are very compromised in terms of range and power.
Mazuda. Always intriguing; always looking for and finding a different path. Better takes time. I'm looking forward to seeing an AWD, CX-30 "e" with reduced plastic fender cladding.
What people don't get is that this is a perfect run about when you already have an ICE for the rare long range trips, you don't want to lug around a massive battery pack when you're traveling short distances. Anyway if you want more range you can just get it with the range extender next year
@@cayman9873 If I could fill it up at home every day for less then 20% of the price, I would. We save 4000$/per year in gas money with this car, and range isn't a problem. If we need to go ling, we take the diesel, that has way better range then any EV anyway.
This is for retired couples, or a small family where mom has the CX9 and dad just needs a reliable commuter. The version using a rotary as an on board generator is exciting to me.
Came from a 06 Mazda 6 then now a 16 Mazda 6. This is refreshing. But why don't they start with a hybrid first? Great video. Always enjoyed long videos from SG
I don't buy the "existing architecture" argument as a reason for its compromises; the Vauxhall Corsa E in the UK gets about 210 miles of range, is built on a platform designed for ICE and is the size of a VW Golf.
It's a bit weird, right? The Hyundai Kona Electric gets 258-mile range, and it wasn't built as an EV either. I don't understand the packaging constraints that the MX-30 has.
I love the interior, the range is disappointing (even 150 miles would be sufficient as this price point, I think), and the lack of AWD is a killer for me, BUT watching the bags fly around in the back at 15:57 had me laughing my ass off watching. Well done!
Another well presented and produced video, informative and education as always. You won't find that many video - this caliber of video - across the internet. You can count them on one hand. Are they this well produced, is the next question? Thanks again for the video.
Confusing in today's market, but it seems as if it is really done well. Mostly releasing for the California market might be a good move for the commuters which take over an hour and a half to travel 20 miles, and want to spend that time in an elegant interior space. You're right, once that range extender drops, it'll hit mainstream.
I don’t think Mazda corporate could have translated Ms. Takeuchi’s interview in any more bland a way possible. She was much more specific in many of the topics she discussed. Thanks for putting it in the video. I doubt many other outlets will run as much of her interview.
I’m glad I watched this video - fascinating! Folks who bought the Mercedes smart for 2 coupe might be happy with MX30 as part of their stable. It’s very cute I must say and looks safer than those smart cars which seat two plus some groceries 😊
I think the range is making it a second car, used for daily driving. Families might have an EV and ICE car while things transition and lots of families have 2 cars. The average distance travelled by people each day is quite low, at least here in Australia, so 160 km is great for that. I don't see what the problem is, unless it has a high cost?
After watching the interview with the programme manager, I can get a sense of where the MX-30 got its elegance and feminine side from. Despite the range, this car is a cute and lovely package.
It sort of seems like they’re taking the same approach as VW who started with the eGolf, then went to the ID4. Unless there are other Americanized EVs from VW that I’m not aware of.
After one year and a half, I'm still in love with my MX30. Driving it returns the feeling of being in a spa and makes me feel really better, in the everyday commuting. The motor sound, bzw, can be switched off (and I did), by an easy "secret" combo of actions on the buttons. After that, you drive on a cloud... Enjoy it!
Just watched your 19 rdx review amazing guys! Getting a 21 rdx tmmrw. Should i run 91 octane as opposed to 87 in the 2.0 t? Love your videos! And hey from canada!!
Mark, thanks for all the details and footage and just getting us the full story no one else will have. Question: You said at the ene three or four years before this is across america w\a range extender. Mazda's saying publicly that one's coming out in just a year. Did you hear something different?
For California or Tokyo in the actual city and the fact people can actually afford it, they did a good job. Interior and exterior are great, based on the gasoline one impressions.
This should be a car for me, but it comes up way short. I currently drive a Ford Focus Electric, a similar converted compliance car with only 76 miles of range. It's fantastic to drive, and the range is fine for around town. Bought used 5 years ago so it was a fantastic deal. Our other car is a Mazda CX-5. So if the Bolt/EUV, ID.4, or even a Niro EV didn't exist today, I might consider the car. But they do, and frankly they are all pretty good. The only area the MX-30 seems to excel is interior quality. It just comes up way short on range, price, practicality, and (subjectively) styling. Almost feels like they didn't want to build the vehicle.
Really cool design, and here's hoping they can adapt this design language to a dedicated platform with way better range and a stronger motor, because I really like what they did with this. It's already tough with just 180 mile range (I have a Hyundai Ionic Electric), and I don't think with my commute I could go with anything less. I really like Mazda as a company, and I really hope they continue to be the scrappy quirky company we all love well into the future.
I love Mazda for their willingness to try new things and stand out. Not a fan of the looks of this thing, nor the low range, but the seats look super comfortable for some reason and I find the use of cork very interesting.
I just ordered a Mini SE, which I have to admit, your review a year ago helped swayed me to it. What's different from the Mini SE to this? Both were chopped up and Frankenstein-ed versions of their ICE counterparts.
100 miles even here in California will not make any sense for people to choose them, say a round-trip from the bottom of the bay area to SF airport and back with A/C and music on will probably be it. This range reminds me of the Mitsubishi I-MiEV 7 years ago, which does have 70 miles worth of range. Again if they live in the Asian mega-city traffic of Tokyo or Bejing where people travel less than 10 miles to work and back would make sense, but here in the US, please give me a reason not just run for the Nissan dealer and get an up-to-date Leaf for $8000 less and more range? I used to have high hope about this car, thinking they might bring the Rotary-engined PHEV MX-30 here to compete with SUVs like the RAV4 Prime or Outlander PHEV, but this sure is a major letdown. They might sell some of those die-hard Mazda fans, but certainly not to people looking for practical means of transportation.
If I was in the market for an alt. fuel vehicle, I'd wait for the range extender version of this. I do like the design and the amazing interior, but not nearly as much as my Mazda6. A decent first step though, but I'm wondering how well the low range will do in the US market.
It’s a city commuter second vehicle. If that’s what you use it for, it’s fantastic. Huge discounts on leftover new/demos right now and can’t be beat for $30K CDN for those that want it for what it is.
With charging available at work, the range is not a dealbreaker for me. Whether or not there’s enough prospective buyers in Nevada to make it worth it to Mazda to sell the MX-30 here or anywhere in the USA outside of CA is the real question.
I look forward to the serial hybrid version. It's my preferred option for future vehicles. Less weight and better range a BEV, less complexity than a plug in hybrid.
"Less weight .... a BEV" That is simply false. Series Hybrid drive trains which both have Combustion Engine and powerful electric drive train. Have two large power plants which are volumetrically bulky and heavy. They have worse space packaging and just as heavy as long range BEVs. The only light weight hybrids are Mild Hybrids which have max 20 miles of Pure Electric Range and weak electric motors. More advance BEVs will even be more light weight than Series Hybrids.
@@Neojhun Serial hybrids do not have to carry half a ton of batteries to have a still lackluster range. With a small battery and a small range extender packaging, as well as weight, is little of an issue. Efficiency is, however. More advanced BEVs were promised for decades, nothing happened. And if they do, nobody would pay a dime for a current BEV.
The absence of piano black is nice to see. The beginning of a trend hopefully. I agree not many will sell. The version with the range extender will be worth the wait.
Mazda is simply too small of a company to invest the massive resources required for electrification. They may well have to find a partner, such as GM with it's Ultium battery and platform. Their head units still look dated. Android Automotive could be a good way to go in the future. I love Mazda products, so I don't say this to merely be critical.
their head units don't look dated whatsoever? It conveys information quickly and efficiently without much glitz meaning it will age well, they're also relatively high resolution, especially since they've fixed the cameras to be high resolution
They already work with Toyota, and then there is that multi company agreement with Subaru, Nissan, Toyota, etc. About sharing components throughout their models. If they ever need to go full EV, daddy Toyota will probably lend them a hand.
Nice review. Mazda makes nice-looking products, but if I was in this market... I'd choose a Hyundai Kona EV. The Kona 258 miles of range, an actual touchscreen, and physical HVAC controls. And for 2022, there's no black plastic cladding.
It's like a final year project for their EV engineers before they're forced by the market to get serious.
It's probs just so they can meet emissions quotas.
There is no ev market. EVs are being forced on populations by government regulations. Get rid of the regulations and the vehicles disappear.
@@fernarias that's the dumbest shit I've read today
@@corrodesthefilm It's true. Without government incentives, EVs are substantially more expensive and unappealing than ICE. Moreover, they're not profitable either. Both consumers and manufacturers hate them but the marxist government regulations are forcing their adoption.
@@corrodesthefilm You don't even know that tesla makes it's profit by selling carbon credits. Get rid of the government help and tesla goes out of business.
I appreciate the design aspect of it, however 100 miles range, makes it just that, a design exercise.
I used to agree with that POV. But then I became one of the people fortunate enough to have anywhere I need to go including work within 5-10 miles of me. That said I'd never consider something like this as my only car unless my significant other has a gas car
Don’t project your use case on the rest of the world. LOTS of people drive less than 100mi/day.
@@aygwm Car buying is less about what people do, and more about what people think they do.
Majority of customers shouldn’t have range anxiety about EVs, yet, it is one of the first objections people think of.
There are a few brands that go that way, smaller range. And in the end it is an argument that makes sense in more ways than we think. We got used to high range and it's understandable. One car does it all. City, holidays, week end lover trip etc. If we are forced to change energy, we will be forced to change our habits a little. Humans don't like changes, and the charger stations network over here is still too small for now. Things will settle in the future as we get used to it I think
@@Meetoon733 You're likely a prime candidate for the MX-30 or the MINI-E. A fun to drive short range EV that doesn't have to fulfill all the requirements of a single family vehicle.
Excellent Review Goose-San. Now I can sip my pumpkin spice latte with my “premium”metal straws with no guilt.
With your reusable cup that you spent $40 on.
Why use metal straws when recyclable agave ones will do?
Don't forget to recycle the K-cup.
Fun fact: premium metal straws have been discontinued due to an uptick in self inflicted lobotomies.
@@LogicalQ that's seriously all I think about using a metal straw.
This car seems more like something you’d have seen in the mid 2000’s when companies just tried out EV products to learn tooling
Yeah good point there.
Absolutely and the price is the worst part. If they are going to push all this BS for why its so bad then make it 15k and let college students afford it. At 35k they are either jerks or are completely clueless and I don't know which one is worse.
@@Hellblaue210 WTF that is not relevant. This is a super low production rare car. It has no point trying to be affordable.
Its like first gen kona ev.... Half assed, but look hyundai today, their ev line up is solid
@@KarrasBastomi but it’s still a Hyundai…..
That front end looks like a low poly render before the detail loads.
The goose just doesn't rest...respect.
This is not my favorite design from Mazda, yet they still manage to create this slickness such that everything just blends in. Looking forward to what they have to offer in their new line up.
A horse can go farther on a change
Cool design. Functionality is limiting
I absolutely love the design of this car, I think its not going to do well because it's both a niche car, and a suboptimal EV. EVs do bring new customers to a brand, not matter how much of a parts bin job they are.
No outside usa this well sell brilliantly . Because in europe tesla is outsold by the id3 plus more. Also in chine
I can see it working better in Europe & perhaps Japan where driving distance is much less than it is in the US, though it's still a bit of a hard sell because there's also better cars for the money here ( Peugeot 208e/2008e, Corsa e, etc )
One thing to say, nothing matches the interior quality on the price range.
It might be a better choice with a range extender with such a small battery for people who take longer trips every fortnight.
The thing is so many EVs are so compromised no matter the price range there is nothing that beats a conventional car in terms of practicability.
I see at least one of these every day in Japan
This is purely a compliance car.
The love and intention Mazda puts into their development is always something I will appreciate, even with big flaws like small interiors in passenger cars due to their minimalist philosophy.
It's a compliance car. No different than the Mercedes B250e, and embarrassingly similar in every way (down to the range and power output) only existing because California requires a company sells an EV alongside their ICE and Hybrid models to be allowed to sell cars.
But this is far more interesting and modern than the B250e.
Exactly. Do they have a minimum number a manufacturer has to deliver?
@@BlackMan614 I’m sure there is some minimum or other rules attached. Otherwise a company like Mazda would just bring 3 of them in and slap $150k price tags on them. That would satisfy their mandate while they get their Tesla direct compete together.
If the strategy on this is "compliance car", then they have to move them. They would have to be heavily discounted. FCA did that with the Fiat 500e which is the only reason you saw any of them out on the streets, really--the residuals on the leases were like $22,000 when the used prices were near $10k. When I returned my first one, they asked if I wanted to buy out the remainder and I laughed. When I returned my second one, three years later, they didn't even bother asking. :)
When I see a B250E I always think it's a diplomat driving an import
You mean their just throwing Newsom a bone. Mazda won't sell even one of these but they know that. It's just the cheapest way to meet compliance.
Mazda tries to make up for the MX-30's lack of range with a lack of piano black, and I'm OK with that.
Mazda is a great company. This is a stepping stone. Really like the interior styling. Hoping they come out with an electric Mazda 3 hatchback or something
@@avuci as a four-time and current mazda owner, I totally agree. This is like their BMW i3. They're a little behind the ball - probably still trying to figure out how to fit a manual transmission to an EV lol
@@interianesq they plan to make a plug in hybrid with a rotary engine! So hopefully that’ll boost the range significantly
I really appreciate the sound design and music production level. Especially the hard hitting beat at 10:00 is great piece of art! Wowzers!
Listening to Mazda product design ethos always makes me emotional. To many car people, they speak a language we understand
I have no interest in the car, but I ended up watching anyway, a testament to the quality of the review.
I have to say though that Masada interior design are much better than Toyota’s, they could learn a thing or two.
Hell, savageese are great reviews no matter what. His review of the mazda 3 when I needed something new and cheap for work made me go out and try one and lease one right away. 2 years now, great car for the price.
This could explain why Toyota and Mazda partnered together. Toyota gets Mazda's interior design and Mazda gets Toyota's hybrid/EV technology.
Anecdotally, the initial quality of Mazda's interiors is better than Toyota's (and they're more interesting), but come year 5-10 there's going to be better fit and fewer squeaks and rattles in the Toyota.
Toyota's designers have their heads stuck up their own asses. 95% of their product line is either hideous looking or just bland.
@@attinsona How do you know that?
Nice idea with the cork, i think it would somehow improve sound deadening without too much weight. Looking forward to what Mazda will do in the future.
I have an Mx-30 for about a year now, and I can honestly say its a great car for daily driving, and yes I do long distant trips with it. But I do wish it had longer range....and more room in back seats, other than that a fun car to drive, in back country side of Portugal.
Here in the uk 100 miles around cities is ample providing you have access to plenty of charge points en route
Horses for courses really this car will fill some people’s needs perfectly
Can’t knock build quality and value
Roll on Mx - 40 pure EV body and increased range .
PORTUGAL, CARALHO! :)
I'm in your same situation, in Italy. Do love my MX30 as it is, with a wish for the future: maybe after a consistent step in battery technologies, they will offer a switch deal. Mazda already said that, at the launch.. As per now, I do enjoy my lovely baby anyway! 👋😎👍
I agreed with all the points you made about the car. Enjoy a great well made car!
I lost interest in getting the car when you said 100 miles of range 😂
Stayed for the amazing review
As the sole vehicle in a household, that's understandable. But like the MINI-E with similar range, the MX-30 will likely appeal to couples/families with at least one other driver where a short range EV can assume a considerable portion of the total miles of driving required.
Nobody is driving 100 miles a day unless you’re a Lyft/Uber/Gig worker -
Is that you? No?
Then why use THEIR measuring stick to defend YOUR needs?
@@stephenhendricks103 exactly!! 2nd car for errands or Daily Driver (to and from Corp America and back home)
@@nextleveljourney6612 Isn't that 100 miles in optimal conditions? Take into consideration traffic and running AC, you're probably down to 80. It may work for a few people, but you have to drive far in CA to get anywhere. Why would you get a car with such limited range, when better alternatives exists for the same price?
@@nextleveljourney6612 Sorry to burst your bubble but 100 mile round-trip daily commutes may not be typical but they are definitely not unusual in many places. I live on an island in the Puget Sound about 50 miles from downtown Seattle. Many of my neighbors (not me, thank God) make that trip at least five days a week. The same can be said for commuters in the Bay Area or Los Angeles regions in California.
"I hope this doesn't hurt them." Yeah, I respect Mazda and hope for that, as well: that this highly-compromised, uncompetitive, first attempt at an EV doesn't hurt them too badly, in people's minds. They really needed a more-suitable platform for this.
Honest question - can they afford to build their own, true EV platform? Not sure what the stakes are, but their pockets have always been much shallower than their competitors. I suppose if they can pull off this incremental development approach without creating too negative of a brand perception they might be able to swing it. Just don't know how much it really costs at the platform level. Otherwise, it seems to me they'll need to partner with Toyota/Fuji/Rivian to get anywhere.
(and then hope that they have a desirable enough package that gives them leverage back to co-develop/or badge-engineer models/licenses to be more profitable)
Mazda are going to all turbos and all wheel drive, when I looked at one today. You do not have a choice. They lost me on the newer vehicle. Toyota and Lexus give you better choices, now.
A clean sheet EV platform would take quite a dent in their $. Mazda doesn’t have anywhere near the resources that VW has.
@@stevemiller1626
True but that brings up a rather good point. VW is more in the business of selling platforms than they are vehicles, and one has to wonder whom in the BEV would would be willing to sell their platform for use? Because I can't think of one off the top of my head. VW tends to keep it's platforms internal to sister subsidiaries. Toyota doesn't do BEV's. Maybe Stellantis but, I am not sure that anyone wants to deal with their BEV platforms as of yet, or Hyundai but last I checked it too tends to keep it's platforms internal to sister subsidiaries.
Thanks for putting a context around this, Marc! Great work!
I leased a sub-100 mile range EV for six years (two three-year leases). It was just my commuter, and if I didn't have chargers at work, it would've been a non-starter. But I was okay with that, because the Fiat 500e was a $100/mo lease--they were giving them away. I can't see how the MX-30 is going to sell. Mazda is too late to the game with this and the cost is too high. When it came time to replace the Fiat, I decided I wanted something that could be more flexible, and so now I'm in a Hyundai Kona Electric. It's the same price range as the MX-30, but it has 250 mile range. It's a great car. I can't imagine going back to the restrictive range feeling I had with the Fiat.
I also don't understand how this could be good in California. Californians drive, a lot. Everything's spread out. Maybe if you lived just in Los Angeles or San Francisco, this would work, but it'd be hard to go between LA and SD for instance, and no one wants to sit on a charger for 30 minutes or more just to make it home. A shame, because I really do like the looks and feel of the MX-30. The range and price kills it.
Having owned a sub-80 mile range EV, I feel your pain. Nissan Leaf could have owned the market, but lack of battery management and ultra poor range on early models showed a half assed effort. The MX30 is such an effort. All attention was paid to the interior while the battery pack and electric motors were largely ignored. 100 mile range is laughable in 2021. Tesla is getting 300 miles out of their Y, which is very similar in size , but not cost. You get what you pay for and that’s why Tesla is killing it in BEV sales. At this point, Tesla is so far ahead of everyone else in BEV technology ,it’ll be years before many can catch up.
Leased a Kia Soul great for commuting to and from school and work if your commute is under 40 miles , it got old pretty quick, in southern Cali started driving too much , limited public charging plus those plug in hybrids hog up all the spots ,
@@alexnutcasio936 And after 10 years in a Tesla, you'll need a $20,000 battery replacement. No thanks. Tesla is rated 25 out of 26 vehicle manufacturers for reliability. Performance is handy for the wealthy who don't need to keep the same vehicle for 10 years but now that Toyota is focusing hard on solid state batteries, Tesla technology is starting to fade.
It seems to me that most commuters in the San Diego area commute less than 100 miles per day. I'd say 80 or less is typical. My commute was about 25 - 30 miles per day.
@@davepaturno4290 a Tesla will be a relic in 10 years. You’ll be a fool to replace the battery pack in that. It totals the car.
One can tell Mark just doesn’t get excited by BEV. He’d rather be getting a root canal or driving that thing off a cliff.
Chill with the fascist imperialism
@@DB-sd3cw What???
@@jimbeam4736 Don't worry, when you hear someone say fascist in today's world, you know it's not gonna make sense
Not true, he liked the Mini Cooper SE.
@@cadriver2570 BUT didn't buy one. That alone is telling.
This is an e-golf 4 years late, but with torsion beam suspension, and even less range and power. I own a 2017, and love it for what it is.
I have a similar car, Ford Focus Electric which has been fun. If the Mazda came out around 2015 it might have at least made a splash. But I just don't know who, even in California, would want this.
I am considering this.
Living in the city with my commute to work being just 6-7 miles the range is not an issue. In fact I think it is a bonus I won't be buying a hauling a lot of batteries around that I would use maybe once a year.
I am also considering the Honda option, it is more special in its looks and also interior, only I wonder if that will might get old really fast where the Mazda is just more like a normal car.
They seem like used ones are very cheap, probably because no one wants them, but I stumbled on one at CarMax and it has me intrigued, it's a 2022 premium plus with 13k miles for 26k. Not too bad for an EV!
Tomiko Takeuchi, your interior materials & surfaces are spot on, well done. Reminds me of Lexus successes. The layout feels good too.
I really like how conventional the interior controls are. I would never buy a Tesla just for their central control pad.
I agree. I like the idea of an electric car, but I don't want all the controls to be reimagined. I want to be able to get into an electric car and just use it, not fiddle with touch screens and wonder how I put it in drive, reverse, or turn on the windshield wipers.
I wish there was an auto maker that had the courage to just make an electric car with conventional controls. They're getting distracted by gadgets instead of getting down to the brass tacks of making a usable and affordable electric car.
@@jasonbaker2126 see Chevrolet Bolt, see Nissan Leaf, see Volkswagen ID4, see Hyundai Kona, see Kia Niro.
I honestly thought I’d hate the center pad thing, but after a week of driving it felt totally normal. I would agree that the UI could be better, but I do most things with voice command.
Also, at night it’s amazing to not have ANY light coming from the dash. It’s relaxing af.
@@jasonbaker2126 Electric Cars are the gadget the entire industry is distracted by.
The center screen is the best part of driving a Model 3/Y. You never have to hunt around looking for what you need it's always right there in the same place. Heads up display for speed/speed limit and nav would be nice to have but far from necessary.
As a "design" this is pretty cool. If the interior concept started getting applied in vehicles like the mazda 3 I think they could see a whole new pool of customers come in.
I absolutely HATE these crossovers. I don't know why anyone likes them, personally. Either be a car or an SUV, but not both. This looks like a flying turtle.
I'll get one when I can charge it with USB-C.
Just plug it into your laptop and you can go forever
I’m never getting one either lol
It's clear to see that Mazda tried it's best with the MX-30 but it just feels so compromised in many ways. And over 30k for a "prove of concept" is a tough pill to swallow. Also the EV segment is gonna get more and more competitive. I guess we'll see what lessons Mazda has learnt here with their first dedicated EV platform.
I'm of the opinion that Mazda is testing the waters and trying to stay within expected regulatory norms; given (irrational) goals of eventual mandated EV sales. Overall, they probably will still need to stick to their core niche: Skyactive X and improving the ICE engine.
Dang da strangest thing is that nobody asked.
I think this is a good first attempt with the styling, once they get the battery range sorted out it’ll be a worthwhile contender.
EV enthusiasts call such cars as the MX-30 as "compliance cars". A half-baked, underspecced EV built only because they have to (and using smaller batteries means Mazda, out of the same amount of battery material, can build more zero emission cars to lower their EU WLTP CO2 fleet emission average or CAFE emission average). On the other hand, Mazda policy of smaller battery sizes DOES allow battery material to be distributed between more vehicles, meaning more EVs can be built and sold, which is better for the environment than a smaller number of EVs being built and sold with unnecessarily supersized batteries that hoard battery material. EV enthusiasts on the other hand, seem to prefer very, very large batteries in their vehicles. It's all terribly confusing!
I feel like the only reason this car is in the states is to appease California regulations
Awesome insight & commentary. Was interesting to see the info from Mazda directly. Hoping this does help them build the foundation towards hybridization and an electric-first design/architecture.
The center console looks very clean. I have the 2017 CX-5 and don’t like that shiny plastic collects dust and scratches. Excited to see what comes out in the future.
You are the only person that can give an informed view on this car. If this were a hybrid, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I live in a small metro area and would never need more than 30 miles each day. The bigger issue is not having access to charging stations. It will be a long time before apartment communities have charging stations. I also see huge issues once EV's become more common as the infrastructure is not growing fast enough.
Very interesting. This would actually work for me. I have a 21’ CX-5 right now, came out of 16’ Mazda 3, and had a 6 and an old CX-7 as my first car. Mazda is affordable, reliable, and somewhat spirited. I have to root for this vehicle however compromised this is currently. And I want to root for it. Baby steps. Kinda cool. The range would not be a problem for me as this would not be a primary vehicle. Kind of a cool novelty. Thanks fro bringing us this MX-30. The price is a little high before credits.
I had a 2014 CX 5 good little cuv. Sorry but Mazda does not have the luxury to make a niche vehicle. That's exactly what this is
If this works for you, you could get a 10 year old leaf for like $15 which would also work for you
I hope the new mazda 6 RWD will be amazing, so I can trade in my 2019 mazda 3 haha
@@mitchellsteindler But then you would have a Leaf...
You had a '16 and a '21. I would hope cars that age are reliable. I wouldn't even mention reliability until the car is 9+ yrs old. Unless we're talking about ze germans of course
Even though this is clearly a compliance car, consider this. I bet 100 mile range is plenty for most people. Here is why.
First of all, the only opinions on range that actually matter are the ones who are actually buying these cars, for better or for worse. 100 miles a day is roughly 20,000 miles a year (100 miles a day x 5 days a week x 4 weeks a month x 12 months a year = 24k miles rounded down for vacation, etc)
On average most people drive well under that. 100 miles of range is PLENTY but people are never satisfied with well enough. These are the same kinds of people that insist they NEED more power, more space, more range, more everything. Tesla Plaid, do you REALLY NEED 1000 HP in an EV? No. No you don’t. Any 3500 series diesel truck, do you REALLY NEED 30k pounds of towing? No. No you really don’t. Mclaren 765LT, do you REALLY need shorter gearing? No. No you really don’t. Dodge TRX, do you really NEED a hellcat engine in a Ram? No. Not even a little. Yet here we are.
If people were truly honest with themselves, putting their pride and insecurities away, MX30 is an ideal car in the same way a Honda Ridgeline is an ideal truck.
No one wants to admit that. Even though this is a compliance car much in the same way the Fiat 500E, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, and Mercedes B-Class were, this is an ideal car for people who don’t kid themselves. Those cars are more or less ideal EVs too (Bolts catching fire not withstanding)
I really like the use of cork though, that’s real clever. Never thought of that, now I’m imagining cars with cork interiors, wild!
I would lease one. I have a 30 mile commute, I live in California, and with the federal tax credit and the state rebate, this $33,000 car turns into a $24,000 car. I don't know, it seems like a pretty decent deal considering all the standard equipment, you can go in the carpool lane, etc.
I consider the starting point to be the 1996 GM EV1. To grade Mazda on a "starting point" curve in 2021 is very generous.
Japanese car developers are like the folks who are asked to describe the meaning of their tattoos. It's like, "Bro, it's just a fish." They made an EV because they're trying to keep up with the trend but did it as cheaply as possible.
Or they did it because they have to, because they desperately need to lower their EU WLTP fleet emissions average in any way possible (they will be fined per car if they average above 95 g CO2/km in 2021, and 68 g CO2/km by 2032)? :) The EU-market Mazdas are all detuned ICEs with mild hybrid systems, unlike those sold elsewhere, because low CO2 output is the number one priority of European regulators.
The Nissan Ariya was not done as cheaply as possible. Mazda is just a small company.
@@TassieLorenzo I the US the top priority of regulators is that every consumer motor vehicle must have 4 doors for the coming car-poolpocalypse.
I wish to see that interior design on other mazda. That looks welcoming.
Hey I know exactly where you were going up that windy hill! Modjeska grade road. I just mountain biked up there! Cool to see you so close by! Thanks for another awesome review
just went to the dealer and saw this, its very cool inside, but only 100mile range , 2022 with 27,000 miles asking $19K, the interior of the high trim model is Beautiful
I think the MX-30 has accomplished it's goal. It has made me excited for the MX-50 (or whatever they call it) when Mazda builds a ground-up EV. I'm excited to see what Mazda does to make a true Mazda EV.
..it kinda is a true mazda EV just not from the ground up. sure the range is poor but this is double edged sword. with a larger battery pack you would get worse efficiency, and worse handling and brake distance due to more weight. also longer charge times. for the vast majority of people who have this as a second car for local use, the range is of little concern
Great video! Lovely review of an lovely product
Nice video. I'm always interested in affordable EV's as a current Bolt owner. I love my car, but I might have to replace it when it catches on fire... LOL! Side note - Any connection to Rally Cycling? I noticed the hat.
If I can pull a $200/mo lease on this thing, and still had a daily commute to work (20 miles away), I’d definitely pull the trigger on this. But because of Covid, I only go to the office once every 2 weeks, so my MX-5 does just fine.
I feel like when the range extender version comes out this will be a much more appealing car.
I really really wanted to justify getting one of these when they become available in my area but ultimately the range is the limiting factor. Maybe if fast charging only took 15 minutes, but it’s still longer then most cars. Hopefully they come out with something better in the future.
Nothing makes me more happy than a savagegeese upload !!
I usually have to change my pants before the end of the video. Didn't make it past the cork this time.
For the North American market, there should have offered the range extender…would have helped
They should've called it the CC-30. CC = Compliance Car
It’s also available in Canada this fall, only in Quebec and British-Colombia! I’m excited to check it out, but I love road trips a bit too much and would need a bigger range. Patiently waiting for their plug-in hybrids, those I’m excited about.
This will be much more practical when they come out with the hybrid version.
The interior space is a really nice take for an EV, reminds me of the Honda E. But unfortunately both are very compromised in terms of range and power.
Mazuda. Always intriguing; always looking for and finding a different path. Better takes time. I'm looking forward to seeing an AWD, CX-30 "e" with reduced plastic fender cladding.
I could listen to these guys all day
What people don't get is that this is a perfect run about when you already have an ICE for the rare long range trips, you don't want to lug around a massive battery pack when you're traveling short distances. Anyway if you want more range you can just get it with the range extender next year
Let me know when you buy a gas car with a three gallon tank. This is the equal
@@cayman9873 let me know when you can buy a gas car that is as cheap and environmentally friendly to run as this
@@cayman9873 If I could fill it up at home every day for less then 20% of the price, I would. We save 4000$/per year in gas money with this car, and range isn't a problem. If we need to go ling, we take the diesel, that has way better range then any EV anyway.
This is for retired couples, or a small family where mom has the CX9 and dad just needs a reliable commuter.
The version using a rotary as an on board generator is exciting to me.
I saw a couple Mazda sedans and an old CX-9 on the road today and I felt happy
Mazda deserves more recognition
Came from a 06 Mazda 6 then now a 16 Mazda 6. This is refreshing. But why don't they start with a hybrid first? Great video. Always enjoyed long videos from SG
As always top notch review. But the use of the green screen? Is the road test footage real or…???
I don't buy the "existing architecture" argument as a reason for its compromises; the Vauxhall Corsa E in the UK gets about 210 miles of range, is built on a platform designed for ICE and is the size of a VW Golf.
It's a bit weird, right? The Hyundai Kona Electric gets 258-mile range, and it wasn't built as an EV either. I don't understand the packaging constraints that the MX-30 has.
@@eslai Good point; I forgot about the Kona (probably because the Ioniq 5 is taking all the headlines). The MX30 is just a compliance vehicle.
I love the interior, the range is disappointing (even 150 miles would be sufficient as this price point, I think), and the lack of AWD is a killer for me, BUT watching the bags fly around in the back at 15:57 had me laughing my ass off watching. Well done!
I really like the interior space. Practically, the range makes it a non-option for me though, even as a second car.
Very glad we get the hybrid model here in AU
Another well presented and produced video, informative and education as always. You won't find that many video - this caliber of video - across the internet. You can count them on one hand. Are they this well produced, is the next question? Thanks again for the video.
Confusing in today's market, but it seems as if it is really done well. Mostly releasing for the California market might be a good move for the commuters which take over an hour and a half to travel 20 miles, and want to spend that time in an elegant interior space.
You're right, once that range extender drops, it'll hit mainstream.
I'm eagerly anticipating the rotary range extender follow-up video from Savagegeese.
I love you guys man an admire your friendship!!
That usage of cork would be a deal breaker for me, how are you suppose to clean that if it gets stained some how?
It’s “patina”
To prevent staining don't let anything soak your cork.
This is exceptional work, practically a documentary on the car.
I don’t think Mazda corporate could have translated Ms. Takeuchi’s interview in any more bland a way possible. She was much more specific in many of the topics she discussed. Thanks for putting it in the video. I doubt many other outlets will run as much of her interview.
I knew Mr. Geese had a soft spot for yacht rock -- can't wait for the album to drop.
I’m glad I watched this video - fascinating! Folks who bought the Mercedes smart for 2 coupe might be happy with MX30 as part of their stable. It’s very cute I must say and looks safer than those smart cars which seat two plus some groceries 😊
I think the range is making it a second car, used for daily driving. Families might have an EV and ICE car while things transition and lots of families have 2 cars. The average distance travelled by people each day is quite low, at least here in Australia, so 160 km is great for that. I don't see what the problem is, unless it has a high cost?
After watching the interview with the programme manager, I can get a sense of where the MX-30 got its elegance and feminine side from. Despite the range, this car is a cute and lovely package.
I had no idea you all were in to road bike racing! Cool to see the Rally cap, maybe some bike content in the future?
It sort of seems like they’re taking the same approach as VW who started with the eGolf, then went to the ID4. Unless there are other Americanized EVs from VW that I’m not aware of.
After one year and a half, I'm still in love with my MX30. Driving it returns the feeling of being in a spa and makes me feel really better, in the everyday commuting. The motor sound, bzw, can be switched off (and I did), by an easy "secret" combo of actions on the buttons. After that, you drive on a cloud... Enjoy it!
@ushubushu - Do you still have the MX-30. I'm potentially looking at it for my second vehicle and commuting to work.
@robertoorozco4761 Yep! She is just sleeping in the garage, waiting for give me pleasure again, tomorrow! I do love it..😍👍
I couldn't sleep waiting for this review lol
Not gonna lie, the interior looks pretty interesting!
Just watched your 19 rdx review amazing guys! Getting a 21 rdx tmmrw. Should i run 91 octane as opposed to 87 in the 2.0 t? Love your videos! And hey from canada!!
Mark, thanks for all the details and footage and just getting us the full story no one else will have. Question:
You said at the ene three or four years before this is across america w\a range extender. Mazda's saying publicly that one's coming out in just a year. Did you hear something different?
The plan is to have more of this rolled out by end of 2025, no timeline as to what and when.
@@savagegeese i appreciate you clarifying what you know
Hi, Everyone! Great work!
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I couldn’t find any info about his leaving the channel!
Please answer ))
This video brought back fond memories of limping back to the golf clubhouse with a dying golf cart.
For California or Tokyo in the actual city and the fact people can actually afford it, they did a good job. Interior and exterior are great, based on the gasoline one impressions.
Finally a competitor to the 2010 Nissan Leaf. Good job Mazda.
The only thing that catches my eyes is "rotary engine range-extender" from that multiple solution approach. 😎
This should be a car for me, but it comes up way short. I currently drive a Ford Focus Electric, a similar converted compliance car with only 76 miles of range. It's fantastic to drive, and the range is fine for around town. Bought used 5 years ago so it was a fantastic deal. Our other car is a Mazda CX-5.
So if the Bolt/EUV, ID.4, or even a Niro EV didn't exist today, I might consider the car. But they do, and frankly they are all pretty good. The only area the MX-30 seems to excel is interior quality.
It just comes up way short on range, price, practicality, and (subjectively) styling. Almost feels like they didn't want to build the vehicle.
Really cool design, and here's hoping they can adapt this design language to a dedicated platform with way better range and a stronger motor, because I really like what they did with this. It's already tough with just 180 mile range (I have a Hyundai Ionic Electric), and I don't think with my commute I could go with anything less. I really like Mazda as a company, and I really hope they continue to be the scrappy quirky company we all love well into the future.
I love Mazda for their willingness to try new things and stand out. Not a fan of the looks of this thing, nor the low range, but the seats look super comfortable for some reason and I find the use of cork very interesting.
I just ordered a Mini SE, which I have to admit, your review a year ago helped swayed me to it.
What's different from the Mini SE to this?
Both were chopped up and Frankenstein-ed versions of their ICE counterparts.
Thoroughly enjoyed the few hours I spent driving one of these while Mazda did some work on my Mazda 6.
Reminds me of the BMW i3, if this was 2016 it would fit in better but in 2021 it feels late to market.
Cork holds up so well, genius Mazda.
Ok yeah that's easily the most interesting interior in the market right now.
100 miles even here in California will not make any sense for people to choose them, say a round-trip from the bottom of the bay area to SF airport and back with A/C and music on will probably be it. This range reminds me of the Mitsubishi I-MiEV 7 years ago, which does have 70 miles worth of range. Again if they live in the Asian mega-city traffic of Tokyo or Bejing where people travel less than 10 miles to work and back would make sense, but here in the US, please give me a reason not just run for the Nissan dealer and get an up-to-date Leaf for $8000 less and more range? I used to have high hope about this car, thinking they might bring the Rotary-engined PHEV MX-30 here to compete with SUVs like the RAV4 Prime or Outlander PHEV, but this sure is a major letdown. They might sell some of those die-hard Mazda fans, but certainly not to people looking for practical means of transportation.
If I was in the market for an alt. fuel vehicle, I'd wait for the range extender version of this. I do like the design and the amazing interior, but not nearly as much as my Mazda6. A decent first step though, but I'm wondering how well the low range will do in the US market.
It’s a city commuter second vehicle.
If that’s what you use it for, it’s fantastic.
Huge discounts on leftover new/demos right now and can’t be beat for $30K CDN for those that want it for what it is.
$30K !!! What will it be worth in 3 years? $3K !!!
With charging available at work, the range is not a dealbreaker for me. Whether or not there’s enough prospective buyers in Nevada to make it worth it to Mazda to sell the MX-30 here or anywhere in the USA outside of CA is the real question.
I look forward to the serial hybrid version. It's my preferred option for future vehicles. Less weight and better range a BEV, less complexity than a plug in hybrid.
"Less weight .... a BEV"
That is simply false. Series Hybrid drive trains which both have Combustion Engine and powerful electric drive train. Have two large power plants which are volumetrically bulky and heavy. They have worse space packaging and just as heavy as long range BEVs. The only light weight hybrids are Mild Hybrids which have max 20 miles of Pure Electric Range and weak electric motors. More advance BEVs will even be more light weight than Series Hybrids.
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Serial hybrids do not have to carry half a ton of batteries to have a still lackluster range. With a small battery and a small range extender packaging, as well as weight, is little of an issue. Efficiency is, however.
More advanced BEVs were promised for decades, nothing happened. And if they do, nobody would pay a dime for a current BEV.
Can't wait to buy this car lightly-used for $15K in two years
The absence of piano black is nice to see. The beginning of a trend hopefully.
I agree not many will sell. The version with the range extender will be worth the wait.
Mazda is simply too small of a company to invest the massive resources required for electrification. They may well have to find a partner, such as GM with it's Ultium battery and platform.
Their head units still look dated. Android Automotive could be a good way to go in the future.
I love Mazda products, so I don't say this to merely be critical.
their head units don't look dated whatsoever? It conveys information quickly and efficiently without much glitz meaning it will age well, they're also relatively high resolution, especially since they've fixed the cameras to be high resolution
They already work with Toyota, and then there is that multi company agreement with Subaru, Nissan, Toyota, etc. About sharing components throughout their models. If they ever need to go full EV, daddy Toyota will probably lend them a hand.
@@RatAvenue I had forgotten about their partnership. That makes sense.
Nice review. Mazda makes nice-looking products, but if I was in this market... I'd choose a Hyundai Kona EV.
The Kona 258 miles of range, an actual touchscreen, and physical HVAC controls. And for 2022, there's no black plastic cladding.