I've done two test drives of MX-30 now, one for 1hr and one for 2hrs, and I love it. It has got the best driver's comfort of any car in its price range and then some. You probably have to pay double for a car that can match it in comfort and features. Yes, that's because of the battery, but noone else is providing a premium car with a small battery, so for those of us with no family, who only drive to-and-from work, this is perfect.
Rune, good for you! Got ours in end of September and driven it 5000 km. The average car goes 13000 km a year so that should tell you something. We are really happy with the car. Longer trips are absolutely possible. We went 180 km in rain and 8 degrees C before charging. But how many longish trips do you really do? And yeah you can charge it in loads and loads of places. Is the glass half full or empty?
The Hyundai Ioniq EV is only £2000 more (in the UK), and a MUCH better car, with a lot more equipment, more tech, a lot more range, and just as comfortable, just as practical, and with a longer warranty.
@@DjNikGnashers hi Nik. A friend of mine drives Ioniq and hes totally in love w my Mazda. The seats are better and more comfy in the Mazda. It just feels nicer somehow. Nicer interior and and cooler exterior. The Mazda is just a nice place to spend time. Technically the Ioniq is great w efficiency etc no doubt about it. As an EV the Ioniq is probably better but would I swap? Nope! In Sweden the Ioniq is overpriced but I m guessing that will change in today s market. Here s an idea. Combine the comfort and styling of the MX-30 w the efficiency of the Ioniq:)
I first scoffed at the range of the MX-30 when I first heard about it. However, having watched over 10 reviews, and crucially, put away my range / battery size prejudice, I’ve fallen head over heels in love with the MX-30 - and I realise, having studied the specifications on paper extensively, that this vehicle was designed specifically for the likes of me in mind. I want one…!!!
Great test as always, thanks. Why would anyone hate the Geilo test with the MX-30? Its relevant for sure. If anyone hates anything people seem to looove hating Mazda s first attempt EV. Compliance car, too conservative, thirsty, city car, unpractical, heavy. The list goes on and on and on. Mazda took a risk w this battery size and are hated for it by EV diehards. Sad but true. It aint fair.
The instrument cluster is so nicely done, so crisp and clear. I wish my Tesla had such a clear screen, instead of having fonts taht are too light and too small.
@@bjornnyland Yes, this is right in norwegian, I know. But in Google Maps the name of the river is actually Hallingdalselve, which is weird. I thought it could be a dialect thing or something...
In a proper winter day here in Norway ( - 10 degrees and snow everywhere) you can get the same range as the i-MiEV , that means around 75 km is totally possible! Thumbs-up Mazda for offering more range than the 50 km europeans tend to drive in a daily basis...
The interface for the navigation with the letters and numbers in a circle is indeed ridiculous. So what I do is that I type and search the travel destination on the mymazda app on my telephone and then send it to the car. I just click to accept and off I go. This is faster and more user friendly then any on-board interface I have seen. And I do it while I am still having my morning coffee.
Looks like snow is coming this week - for Norther UK and Norway so more snow/winter tests coming up. You are pushing out great content so fast. It's brilliant to send people links to your channel so they can see how good EVs are now. :)
The battery size and range reminds me of my sons two year old 30 kWh Kia Soul. They are now a bit of a bargain used now and charge at close to 50 kW up to 94%.
Yo what's up Bjørn. Another question - in your range test earlier, you managed +/- 160 km with average speed 90 km/h. See you get the same here Oslo - Bromma where the average speed is much lower. The weather conditions appear to be the same (pretty poor with wet roads and around zero). Isn't that a tad strange? Also, as I mentioned earlier, the net difference TO Geilo vs TO Oslo seems very little... considering the difference in incline vs decline. What do you think?
It would be great if you could make a video with city driving... like how far you can get with 25% battery usage or something... because the mazda is advertised as a city car...
Hi Bjørn. Another nice review. However, see you used 19.0kwh/100km to Geilo and with 30kwh usable, total range is then 158 km. However, on the way down you have 16.9kwh/100km, so increasing range to 178 km... with the net difference in height, I have to say the difference is rather small (???). For instance, my EQC to Høgevarde from Oslo consumes around 27kwh/100km on the way up, but only 16kwh/100km down... And close to zero and wet roads will also take its toll on the range here.
I noticed Bjorn always drives in D mode. On an empty road, as he does, you better drive in D++ mode without regeneration. The car then "glides" much better and is probably more efficient. Downhill you may go into D-- mode for max regeneration. In any case, every touch of the break pedal (which is a mechanical break) is energy wasted.
The adaptive headlights are not so to my liking. I just goes into high-beam mode when I am on the high-way - this is scary to me. Even though it is supposed to be "non-blinding" high beam. But luckily you can switch it off.
@@rickardwaara2130 I think Mazda should have added a massive battery in this version, considering it does not have a range extender. Will be interesting to see how this sells though.
@@rickardwaara2130 the problem with range extenders is that they are not supposed to be used, or as little as possible, but they add a lot of weight in the car (engine + gearbox + transmission or generator + fuel tank + ...) which reduces the range of the electric part, and consequently, increase the need for a bigger battery. IMHO it's a nonsense...
exactly my thoughts...this is like a 5 year old i3 made even a bit worse...battery capacity, charging speed...really nobody should even consider buying this car
This car is designed with the fossil and Rotative range Extender in mind. With it, the mx30 will be a very Interesting vehicle (even not 100% Electric). Without the REX this mazda is a Bad EV.
Mazda has always been weird about going electric. They have seemed convinced that they could make a more efficient gas engine from their statements in the past. I'm thinking this vehicle is either just for compliance with new california laws that will require electric vehicles from manufacturers , or they're just testing the waters. Maybe an old design, or just haven't invested heavily in the tech yet.
I notice something fun here. Then I had a Leaf 24 kWh to drive I needed to charge on the same spots. Soo Mazda MX-30 have same technical driving range like a first gen revision 2 Nissan Leaf 24 kWh.
@@mjk8019 Average speed on that road is 70 kph and I have many times driven on road with average of 90 kph and start from Oslo and ends up in Notodden with 20%, and that is only 126 km. And in winter I arrivial to the charger with 5% according to LeafSpy Pro. I had on heat not on circulation only drag in fresh air and work with it and that car had even heatpump. And I had 23C inside.
Hi Bjørn, I know this is an old video. But I‘m thinking about buying a used EV, either the Mazda MX-30 or the Honda E Advance. Since you reviewed both, do you remember which one you liked more?
Nice test. As usual with some german shouts :-)) One question a bit off topic: is it legal in Norway to overtake on the right lane (from 21:50 on)? Thanks and cheers from Austria! Ludi
It might not be using GPS speed for the average speed, some cars, mine included, know the accurate speed from the wheels, but add a % or number to the value when shown on the speedometer. Pretty sure mine always adds 3mph, not a percentage. My trip meter uses the accurate speed.
I know it's a requirement not to under read on the speedo, just saying that some cars do things differently, mine is accurate when you read the speed by OBD and it always adds 3mph. I'm pretty sure the requirement is just that it must not under read, and must be accurate to within 10%. I don t remember 5% being prescribed anywhere, but if you're asking people to be between 0% and +10% most will be around +5%.
I second this! Please make a video about how to take advantage of the various charging discounts. It would incredibly helpful to those of us who are new to driving EVs in Norway.
@@bjornnyland Jeg skrev kontrakt 16 Januar. Bilen begynte de å produsere 10 Novemeber i Belgia. Flere biler er kommet til Norge å forhandlere. Jeg følger med på deg. Spennende å se hva du mener om denne. Det blir min første El Bil. Kommer i slutten av November. Klargjøres så jeg får den første uken i Desember.
@@bjornnyland You Norwegian me Norwegian! We are Vikings!!I look forward to your test of the Volvo xc40 Recharge P8. Much like the Polstar 2 but this is Volvo built in Belgium. SUV 4X4. I will soon get my car as I signed the contract on the first day 16 January 2020
You don’t buy this vehicle for the range you buy for the convenience of having a car in the city. They were selling originally at 44,000 Canadian but the largest Mazda dealer in the world got a promotion and they’re now selling them for $25,000 Canadian. That is a bargain you can’t even buy a Corolla or Yaris at that price. If this is your second car, it’s a dream if it’s your main car it could be a nightmare I just love it because I know why I bought it for.
I do not really understand why the KM range indicates just 151 Km when the battery is 100% charged. On my Mazda it is indicated 200 km, and that is what I really get out of it. Somehow Bjorn uses a lot of energy. Perhaps the heater? Here in NL we are still at about 15 degrees C, so not Norwegian temperatures. Or perhaps it is the tyres, I am still on summer tyres and inflated them - at Mazda's advice - to 3 bar. So agreed that the range is not that much, but I am still getting a lot more out of it as these videos do.
it's not so bad car, mazda always had a good quality cars, ok range could be bigger but for many European towns and cities this can be ok, i like design of the car, don't like those door but front grill and headlights are nice, and complete figure, at least it better looking then bmw i3 to me
I am thinking about getting a second EV for my wife in about this price range. Would really interesting to see how the Mazda performs on a 1000 km challenge, compared to the e-golf, which can be found slightly used. We have kids so an e-208 or a Zoe is too small, plus we like the premium feel and features of e-golf and the MX30. So, any chance of a 1000 km challenge in the Mazda, Bjørn?
What about 39.2kwh Kona, E Soul or Peugeot II 2008? I don't know where you live, but in my country they're all about the same - however I don't know what kind of subsidies you have.
@@rasmusbaadsgaardmrkedahl1279 100% understandable. EV resale value is a huge unknown regardless of brand. I don't know how old your kids are but the mx30 isn't too spacious. Best thing as always test drives. Initially I wanted to buy the mx30 but i was disappointed, so now I am waiting for the Ioniq 5.
@@Scrap-press, sage advice. Would be nice to know if the MX30 struggles with rapidgating in any case, though. I might just test drive it for the fun of it 😊
You can't be serious. The Mazda is far more stylish, drives better, has all kinds of safety options, water cooled battery, heat pump, and 1000 more things the leaf never had and still does not.
@@Elias-d5e Yea but the first gen leaf is cheap now, this thing is not. This thing compares with Honda-E. In the "worst EV ever made" category. If you want a extremely expensive city car. Sure, why not... 1000 better choices out there.
@@Elias-d5e Current LEAF has more range, faster charging, larger trunk, has heat pump, has the same safety features, and is more powerful and much quicker than this Mazda 0-60.
The light turned solid while he was using the navigation. Maybe it has motion control in certain menus? Or it's used for better recognition of voice commands? Or maybe it checks if it's the driver or passenger using the console while the vehicle is moving. Edit, the light stayed solid since the sun went down in the video. Might have stopped blinking just based on camera settings adjusting to the dark.
The navigation is just like the one in BMW 5 series from 2018. It is even operated in the same way. Perhaps you can ask Mazda if it is in fact from BMW, just out of interest..?
Probably a question already answered . I was wondering how efficiency is affected with altitude, assuming the temperature remains unchanged. I know for ICE, there is a tendency to have higher mpg but lower power. But did you notice anything for altitude differences?
@@JohnDoe-vx3z Ah now I understand, what the intention of the question might have been. I understood energy use while climbing (and gain cause of recuperation or at least not needed engine power while driving downhill), but your guess that Nawaaz is referring to stuff like combustion cars having less power when in thinner air, that's too strange for me to think of in the EV context - how weird, I mean how did that moon car (and planet rovers) work again? ^^
this is just a test bed for their upcoming hybrid power train using rotary. Only then, with a gas engine this small battery makes some sense. As it is right now, very small back seats, short range and high price it is not going to sell much.
It is a failure of the operators to reduce the number of chademo chargers in Norway. Nissan Leaf is the most-selling car in Norway, and there are lots of Kia Soul and other models that use Chademo. Also fun to see that those with cars with 150 kws chargers prefer 50 kws charging.
Love the content you do! No bulls#*@ or hidden agenda 👍.Whats the deal with regen in EV's, does it make any difference? Can you test it/include it sometime? Cheers!
Until today I did not know double wiener penetration even was a thing. But Mazda MX-30 is a great car for the money, it just has too small balls. Give it the fat cells !
This car pretty bad for an EV in 2020, so many people are still about range and not about recharging km/hour. The MX 30 is bad in both points. Imagine a trip on german autobahn with 150 kph 😂 I have been to norway in september with a Model 3 and was so happy about the low prices on supercharger, but it really is only the SuC, every other fastcharger in norway is expensive (it was like 4,5 NOk/kWh+1,25 NOK/min on a 50kw charger with 40kw output) and you need an app for every different company. Only AC charging was cheap too, but still more expensive than SuC. Norway has the most EV density but not good charging "politics" from my point of view. Is there such a thing as "Maingau" or "EnBW" (charging networks in germany) that allows you to charge from different brand at a good constant price?
Many people can do just fine with ~200 km range in their daily use. A Cosmo version with all that equipment and winter tires for less than €26k is a bargain if you ask me 👍
Clearly all the people commenting here about how bad or antiquated this car may be, are not seeing the big picture - this car is aimed directly at the Scandi market, where most people would do max 100km in a day, and then the car sits overnight on their home charger. So charging speed is irrelevant, and battery capacity is sufficient... especially when you need a larger car than a Zoe or Leaf, and all other larger cars on the market here in Sweden are 150-250K SEK more! (even smallish Hyundai and Kia) I'll give you a hint... Mazda sold out of their first production run here in Sweden, and are almost sold out of their 2nd for delivery next year, so the sales are defying everyone's opinion.
Agree, I got a Mazda in Sept, and so far I only charged at home. In addition, I charge till 70% and deliberately at 3.7 kW, this to save battery life. So far so good. Of course if you need to drive long distances this car is not for you, but then you must bring a bigger budget or go for a diesel car.
I was looking yesterday and even If I was to drive from one side to the other in my country I would only need two charging stops. Most "weekend" Trips I might take would be one stop. Trips in and out of the city won't need a charge. I agree with most people in that the charging speed and range is very poor but I have to think something like this is just nicer to be in and drive then most other EVs. Its also at least 5k cheaper
In Germany you geht Hyundai for a good price. Hyundai offers much better cars than that car, which might look Bug, nur ist mit Note roomy INSIDE than Zoe!
@@02semiata Agreed. This Mazda interior is the closest I have seen to a Volvo interior of any other El car on the market. It really is on another level to the Koreans.
When I look at the comments to this video it seems that most readers are stuck in the fossil fuel era when we used to drive 800 km, fuel up and go for the next 800 km. Or just fuel every two weeks and leisurely drive around. But this is not how you should look at EVs. Ask yourself the question, how often do I drive 800 Km, or 400 km, or 200 km, or even 50 km. Most of us will in fact be in the latter category. I analysed my car use and found that the only time I go over 200 km is when I go on holidays, and that is only when I do not fly. Most EV users, at least in the NL, have far too big batteries and this is certainly true for Tesla drivers. A friend of mine has a Tesla which he charges once a week (at home). Then you just have the wrong car which too much burdens the road network with excessive weight, burdens the environment due to unnecessary resource use in production of the car, and is simply too expensive to buy. The long-term economics of these cars is also questionable. Take as an example the KIA e-Niro 64Kwh, which is a sales hit in Nl. I calculated total cost (depreciation, energy, insurance etc) over a five-year holding period and found that it could not compete with my old Lexus hybrid. The only reason so many were sold (in NL) is because of fiscal incentives. But with these fiscal incentives now being phased out, people are rediscovering plug-in hybrids. Coming back to the Mazda, it is one of the best equipped yet cheapest EVs around, as Bjorn continues to point out, and this is precisely because of the small battery. It is one of the few EVs that is equally priced to its petrol counterpart (the CX30). Of course Mazda could have gone for a bigger battery, but then the car would have been € 5k more expensive, and no longer a direct alternative to a petrol car. The key problem with the Mazda (and MG) in my view is the fact that it cannot accept 11KW charging. Such 11KW chargers are all over the place (in NL) but the Mazda can only take 3.7KW from them. That is the real shame, not the battery size.
I agree with you... But I would have been ok to drop 5K on a longer range variant :-) As it is, I only really need a car for doing a whole lot of 3 to 5 mile trips per week, where I can charge it at home... so the MX-30 is fine for me.
Very good points! Spot on! Most people (including myself) drive less than 50 km per day. I test drove te MX-30 Cosmo, and I liked it so much (handling, comfort, equipment) that I ordered one! They currently have a deal for the Cosmo at €26k inkl winter tires, and at that price, you cannot possibly get a more equipped or comfortable car. It doesn't have great range, but like you said, you should buy a car you NEED, not just one with 400+ km range for that one time you go on holiday. In that case it would be much cheaper just renting a car for that one trip 👍
@@bjornnyland Hmm. At 15:47 to 16:22 the focus is on the bonnet. Actually, when I reviewed it I think the focus is on the windscreen. Hard to avoid, I guess. At 7:37 the HUD and infotainment is crystal clear, but the sign is not. Or maybe I'm just another keyboard warrior full of shieeeet.
€36,500 in Finland. The same or in many instances more expensive than all other EV's in that category. Even the Honda e comfort is cheaper than the Mazda. With so many better EV's around this price point, you'd have to be a Mazda fan boy (or quite naive) to choose this.
We just ordered a MX-30 Cosmo for less than €26,000 including winter tires, so that's a lot of car and equipment for the price 😉 If you don't need more than 200 km range daily, I think it's a good buy. It drives so well and is very quiet. I also test drove the e-Corsa, but I didn't like it much, seemed like quality wasn't as good.
The range weenie comments are hilarious, the car is fine for its purpose, it isn't a long distance cruiser but neither are 99% of trips. You don't need a massive battery for the local trips people do in the real world. Maybe it isn't the best choice for driving into the mountains however :)
My Nissan leaf 2015 has about the same range: 120km summer and 80km in winter. Definitely this Mazda is not a option, even if you're thinking about this one as a city car. For kr 305.000 you get a leaf 59kw battery.
I guess it depends on whether the Mazda MX-30 in its existing guise and battery storage configuration suits your lifestyle. This was definitely designed for ME……though not for everyone. I don’t want a Nissan Leaf. The Mazda possesses attributes the Nissan Leaf doesn’t have, that suit me specifically.
Those headlights are horrible when you are on the right lane on a motorway, and overpassed by a vehicle equiped with this. I can not understand how they can be homologated. The reflection of the light on the left mirror is totally annoying.
It's a good looking car but seems a half hearted attempt battery could have been bigger the engine bay space could have been better utilised it's a compliance car and a missed opportunity it could have been so much better
16 min in so far and no thoughts on how the car is to drive yet. Noise isolation, steering, acceleration, safety assist systems? And does it have carplay or android auto? Then the infotainment system does not really matter, not at this price point.
I've done two test drives of MX-30 now, one for 1hr and one for 2hrs, and I love it. It has got the best driver's comfort of any car in its price range and then some. You probably have to pay double for a car that can match it in comfort and features. Yes, that's because of the battery, but noone else is providing a premium car with a small battery, so for those of us with no family, who only drive to-and-from work, this is perfect.
Rune, good for you! Got ours in end of September and driven it 5000 km. The average car goes 13000 km a year so that should tell you something. We are really happy with the car. Longer trips are absolutely possible. We went 180 km in rain and 8 degrees C before charging. But how many longish trips do you really do? And yeah you can charge it in loads and loads of places. Is the glass half full or empty?
The Hyundai Ioniq EV is only £2000 more (in the UK), and a MUCH better car, with a lot more equipment, more tech, a lot more range, and just as comfortable, just as practical, and with a longer warranty.
@@DjNikGnashers hi Nik. A friend of mine drives Ioniq and hes totally in love w my Mazda. The seats are better and more comfy in the Mazda. It just feels nicer somehow. Nicer interior and and cooler exterior. The Mazda is just a nice place to spend time. Technically the Ioniq is great w efficiency etc no doubt about it. As an EV the Ioniq is probably better but would I swap? Nope! In Sweden the Ioniq is overpriced but I m guessing that will change in today s market. Here s an idea. Combine the comfort and styling of the MX-30 w the efficiency of the Ioniq:)
That would be the tesla model 3
@@dennisaskeland5870 I don't think you can get a Tesla for the price of an MX-30
...when picture of battery on the driver dashboard screen is bigger than real battery size.
😂😂😂😂😂👍🏾……..And yet, I still want one 😊
Bloody hell, my RX-8 had a similar Sat Nav interface - can't believe it's persisted that long!
“At least it’s consistently slow” 🤣
There is truth in that statement, at leadt you know exactly how long charging will take every time.
I’m perfectly at peace with that 😊
The IR is used to check if you are paying attention to the road.
Mazda MX-30: I love it!
I first scoffed at the range of the MX-30 when I first heard about it. However, having watched over 10 reviews, and crucially, put away my range / battery size prejudice, I’ve fallen head over heels in love with the MX-30 - and I realise, having studied the specifications on paper extensively, that this vehicle was designed specifically for the likes of me in mind. I want one…!!!
Norway is so beautiful, definitely will be visiting hopefully next year
Drive the west coast.
So nice that u comment on the driving lights👍👍
Norway's Landscapes are so beautiful
Wow those freezing mountain views look gorgeous. You can actually tell where it is below 0 celsius.
Great test as always, thanks. Why would anyone hate the Geilo test with the MX-30? Its relevant for sure. If anyone hates anything people seem to looove hating Mazda s first attempt EV. Compliance car, too conservative, thirsty, city car, unpractical, heavy. The list goes on and on and on. Mazda took a risk w this battery size and are hated for it by EV diehards. Sad but true. It aint fair.
Hmmm, than I like my ioniq 28.5 with short range but up to 69kW charging speed a lot more.
And Ioniq has a Touchscreen Display for Navigation
@@stefanjepp6612 and Ioniq is efficient
@EV_Driving You are right!
That is what I think so AS well!
me too! ;)
I wouldn‘t trade in my Ioniq either.
infrared light is for the camera monitoring driver's awareness (camera is located in the top left corner of the infotainment screen)
Awareness for what ? When he/she falls asleep waiting for the charge ?
I will never eat an hotdog again.
Damn, Bjorn...almost 200K subs! I remember when you only had a few hundred. Congrats!!
The instrument cluster is so nicely done, so crisp and clear. I wish my Tesla had such a clear screen, instead of having fonts taht are too light and too small.
Ioniq also displays speed cameras in the same way, if you have the car connected to WiFi
Aha, nice to know :)
"two 'dogs, one Björn"
The river is Hallingdalselve Bjørn, in case you were still wondering :)
*Hallingdalselva
@@bjornnyland Yes, this is right in norwegian, I know. But in Google Maps the name of the river is actually Hallingdalselve, which is weird. I thought it could be a dialect thing or something...
In a proper winter day here in Norway ( - 10 degrees and snow everywhere) you can get the same range as the i-MiEV , that means around 75 km is totally possible! Thumbs-up Mazda for offering more range than the 50 km europeans tend to drive in a daily basis...
The interface for the navigation with the letters and numbers in a circle is indeed ridiculous. So what I do is that I type and search the travel destination on the mymazda app on my telephone and then send it to the car. I just click to accept and off I go. This is faster and more user friendly then any on-board interface I have seen. And I do it while I am still having my morning coffee.
Now that is an interesting way of solving the problem. Maybe even better than dealing with slow touch infotainment systems.
Looks like snow is coming this week - for Norther UK and Norway so more snow/winter tests coming up. You are pushing out great content so fast. It's brilliant to send people links to your channel so they can see how good EVs are now. :)
Very nice views in this video. The river is Hallingdalselva (Hallingdal River).
The battery size and range reminds me of my sons two year old 30 kWh Kia Soul. They are now a bit of a bargain used now and charge at close to 50 kW up to 94%.
19:55 i found out that you can charge also with Fortum or Plugsurfing there. No need for an extra RFID from Kople.
Fortum RFID works on Kople chargers and even Plugsurfing works well good. Same price as Kople price lists. But Kople RFID dosen't works on Fortum.
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Yo what's up Bjørn. Another question - in your range test earlier, you managed +/- 160 km with average speed 90 km/h. See you get the same here Oslo - Bromma where the average speed is much lower. The weather conditions appear to be the same (pretty poor with wet roads and around zero). Isn't that a tad strange? Also, as I mentioned earlier, the net difference TO Geilo vs TO Oslo seems very little... considering the difference in incline vs decline. What do you think?
It would be great if you could make a video with city driving... like how far you can get with 25% battery usage or something... because the mazda is advertised as a city car...
The Mazda mx 30 is total luxury compared to the Zoe. How can you compare? I've driven both.
Hi Bjørn. Another nice review. However, see you used 19.0kwh/100km to Geilo and with 30kwh usable, total range is then 158 km. However, on the way down you have 16.9kwh/100km, so increasing range to 178 km... with the net difference in height, I have to say the difference is rather small (???). For instance, my EQC to Høgevarde from Oslo consumes around 27kwh/100km on the way up, but only 16kwh/100km down... And close to zero and wet roads will also take its toll on the range here.
I noticed Bjorn always drives in D mode. On an empty road, as he does, you better drive in D++ mode without regeneration. The car then "glides" much better and is probably more efficient. Downhill you may go into D-- mode for max regeneration. In any case, every touch of the break pedal (which is a mechanical break) is energy wasted.
Almost insignificant.
Absolutely
Double penetration!! TOO MUCH Information 😂😂😂👌👌
And that soda from Circle K tastes cat pi pi....
At 18:06 car says “I believe in you” this is just what Bjorn wants to hear
That's the name of the song he's listening to
The adaptive headlights are not so to my liking. I just goes into high-beam mode when I am on the high-way - this is scary to me. Even though it is supposed to be "non-blinding" high beam. But luckily you can switch it off.
Setting your cruise control to drive to Geilo = Geilomat ! ;-)
This is one of the worst compliance cars, ever. What were they thinking?
I don't agree with you. I'm pretty sure it's the most funny car, when you go to a showroom and listen to the salesman trying to sell it to you :)
It´s built around having an range extender, so there is no need to have an massive battery.
@@rickardwaara2130 I think Mazda should have added a massive battery in this version, considering it does not have a range extender. Will be interesting to see how this sells though.
@@pranxor5771 Well they have this for now until the range extender comes out in 2022. Smaller battery means an lower price, which is nice though.
@@rickardwaara2130 the problem with range extenders is that they are not supposed to be used, or as little as possible, but they add a lot of weight in the car (engine + gearbox + transmission or generator + fuel tank + ...) which reduces the range of the electric part, and consequently, increase the need for a bigger battery. IMHO it's a nonsense...
This car is designed as if someone with no knowledge of EVs has done it. There’s „old world“ written all over it. Even 2014 this was old.
exactly my thoughts...this is like a 5 year old i3 made even a bit worse...battery capacity, charging speed...really nobody should even consider buying this car
@@christopherritsch1494 So basically...it's an e-Golf :).
This car is designed with the fossil and Rotative range Extender in mind.
With it, the mx30 will be a very Interesting vehicle (even not 100% Electric). Without the REX this mazda is a Bad EV.
@@kaasman78 e-golf *before* the facelift and battery upgrade - range wise
Mazda has always been weird about going electric. They have seemed convinced that they could make a more efficient gas engine from their statements in the past. I'm thinking this vehicle is either just for compliance with new california laws that will require electric vehicles from manufacturers , or they're just testing the waters. Maybe an old design, or just haven't invested heavily in the tech yet.
I notice something fun here. Then I had a Leaf 24 kWh to drive I needed to charge on the same spots. Soo Mazda MX-30 have same technical driving range like a first gen revision 2 Nissan Leaf 24 kWh.
@@jazdan223 Correct.
@@mjk8019 Average speed on that road is 70 kph and I have many times driven on road with average of 90 kph and start from Oslo and ends up in Notodden with 20%, and that is only 126 km. And in winter I arrivial to the charger with 5% according to LeafSpy Pro. I had on heat not on circulation only drag in fresh air and work with it and that car had even heatpump. And I had 23C inside.
@@mjk8019 Lol, how is it "shity"?? If you don't need more range, than a Cosmo version at €26k is so much car, equipment and luxury for the money!
Hi Bjørn, I know this is an old video. But I‘m thinking about buying a used EV, either the Mazda MX-30 or the Honda E Advance. Since you reviewed both, do you remember which one you liked more?
Nice test. As usual with some german shouts :-)) One question a bit off topic: is it legal in Norway to overtake on the right lane (from 21:50 on)? Thanks and cheers from Austria! Ludi
That's a bus/taxi lane.
Do this with the i3 120Ah please :)
It might not be using GPS speed for the average speed, some cars, mine included, know the accurate speed from the wheels, but add a % or number to the value when shown on the speedometer. Pretty sure mine always adds 3mph, not a percentage. My trip meter uses the accurate speed.
It's a European requirement to overstate the speed by 5%
I know it's a requirement not to under read on the speedo, just saying that some cars do things differently, mine is accurate when you read the speed by OBD and it always adds 3mph. I'm pretty sure the requirement is just that it must not under read, and must be accurate to within 10%. I don t remember 5% being prescribed anywhere, but if you're asking people to be between 0% and +10% most will be around +5%.
Small battery and inefficient. Lose lose unfortunately.
Not aggree. Try Hyundai Ionq 28 kWh version tiny battery and have better range.
@@RoteLars Yea but then its a mattet of small Battery and efficiant car wich isnt what he Said 😂
You should do a video about all the discounts possible. I would love you for that :D
I second this! Please make a video about how to take advantage of the various charging discounts. It would incredibly helpful to those of us who are new to driving EVs in Norway.
When you come over mountain, how much to you generally regen in KWh in any EV
What about Volvo XC40 Recharge P8 Test?
Yes
@@bjornnyland Jeg skrev kontrakt 16 Januar. Bilen begynte de å produsere 10 Novemeber i Belgia. Flere biler er kommet til Norge å forhandlere. Jeg følger med på deg. Spennende å se hva du mener om denne. Det blir min første El Bil. Kommer i slutten av November. Klargjøres så jeg får den første uken i Desember.
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@@bjornnyland Nogle af os forstår det. 😊
@@bjornnyland You Norwegian me Norwegian! We are Vikings!!I look forward to your test of the Volvo xc40 Recharge P8. Much like the Polstar 2 but this is Volvo built in Belgium. SUV 4X4. I will soon get my car as I signed the contract on the first day 16 January 2020
I'm waiting my new MX-30... Good video, thanks. Very interesting.... :-)
Ioniq also has GPS speed in the map. Came after last update.
Average speed? Are you sure?
@@andersskovwestermann no, just real speed. And that’s an improvment to the speedo!
That's not the same as average speed...
I never saw a more funny car review yet, so i have to watch your other videos too for sure!! Where does your german come from?? You are great, man!
I'll be testing one next week. So far I had Zoe, Corsa E and Honda E. Just wondering if mazda is going to be as exciting as Honda 😜😁
"people in general drive 5-10km/h too slow"
Forget the sch**sse and other German words - that sentence is the most German you can get :-)
You don’t buy this vehicle for the range you buy for the convenience of having a car in the city. They were selling originally at 44,000 Canadian but the largest Mazda dealer in the world got a promotion and they’re now selling them for $25,000 Canadian. That is a bargain you can’t even buy a Corolla or Yaris at that price. If this is your second car, it’s a dream if it’s your main car it could be a nightmare I just love it because I know why I bought it for.
I do not really understand why the KM range indicates just 151 Km when the battery is 100% charged. On my Mazda it is indicated 200 km, and that is what I really get out of it. Somehow Bjorn uses a lot of energy. Perhaps the heater? Here in NL we are still at about 15 degrees C, so not Norwegian temperatures. Or perhaps it is the tyres, I am still on summer tyres and inflated them - at Mazda's advice - to 3 bar. So agreed that the range is not that much, but I am still getting a lot more out of it as these videos do.
Winter tyres + 15 degrees lower temperature will do that to your range.
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it's not so bad car, mazda always had a good quality cars, ok range could be bigger but for many European towns and cities this can be ok, i like design of the car, don't like those door but front grill and headlights are nice, and complete figure, at least it better looking then bmw i3 to me
I hope Mazda will come up with ev's thats have more battery juice.
I am thinking about getting a second EV for my wife in about this price range. Would really interesting to see how the Mazda performs on a 1000 km challenge, compared to the e-golf, which can be found slightly used. We have kids so an e-208 or a Zoe is too small, plus we like the premium feel and features of e-golf and the MX30.
So, any chance of a 1000 km challenge in the Mazda, Bjørn?
What about 39.2kwh Kona, E Soul or Peugeot II 2008? I don't know where you live, but in my country they're all about the same - however I don't know what kind of subsidies you have.
@@Scrap-press, I'm not too keen on Korean and French cars. Resale value is one concern, but I've also been burned on quality issues before.
@@rasmusbaadsgaardmrkedahl1279 100% understandable. EV resale value is a huge unknown regardless of brand.
I don't know how old your kids are but the mx30 isn't too spacious. Best thing as always test drives. Initially I wanted to buy the mx30 but i was disappointed, so now I am waiting for the Ioniq 5.
@@Scrap-press, sage advice. Would be nice to know if the MX30 struggles with rapidgating in any case, though. I might just test drive it for the fun of it 😊
Mazda should forget rotary range extender. Put in bigger battery instead and I would put it on the short list as companion to a cyber truck.
When a Nissan Leaf 2012 kicks Mazda’s 2020’s butt.
You can't be serious. The Mazda is far more stylish, drives better, has all kinds of safety options, water cooled battery, heat pump, and 1000 more things the leaf never had and still does not.
@@Elias-d5e Yea but the first gen leaf is cheap now, this thing is not. This thing compares with Honda-E. In the "worst EV ever made" category. If you want a extremely expensive city car. Sure, why not... 1000 better choices out there.
@@Elias-d5e Current LEAF has more range, faster charging, larger trunk, has heat pump, has the same safety features, and is more powerful and much quicker than this Mazda 0-60.
@@kasmopaya2676 well made, useful and stylish so be quiet
@@GA-wq8xq Yes, good and expensive city car, if you want that why not. I compare EVs always to a fossil car and it has to beat them in everything.
I have a feeling the IR thing your noticing MIGHT be for monitoring the driver attention.
The light turned solid while he was using the navigation. Maybe it has motion control in certain menus? Or it's used for better recognition of voice commands? Or maybe it checks if it's the driver or passenger using the console while the vehicle is moving.
Edit, the light stayed solid since the sun went down in the video. Might have stopped blinking just based on camera settings adjusting to the dark.
The navigation is just like the one in BMW 5 series from 2018. It is even operated in the same way. Perhaps you can ask Mazda if it is in fact from BMW, just out of interest..?
Good job you used ketchup. Always use lubrication when double penetrating
Probably a question already answered . I was wondering how efficiency is affected with altitude, assuming the temperature remains unchanged. I know for ICE, there is a tendency to have higher mpg but lower power. But did you notice anything for altitude differences?
play around with abetterrouteplanner.com, it calculates including elevation - and lots more
Altitude per se doesn't influence EV performance. But higher altitude usually correlates with lower temp.
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@@JohnDoe-vx3z Ah now I understand, what the intention of the question might have been. I understood energy use while climbing (and gain cause of recuperation or at least not needed engine power while driving downhill), but your guess that Nawaaz is referring to stuff like combustion cars having less power when in thinner air, that's too strange for me to think of in the EV context - how weird, I mean how did that moon car (and planet rovers) work again? ^^
I like how they priced it in Greece same as e 2008.
What price is it for the Cosmo in Greece? In Norway it's currently a deal for €26k inkl winter tires.
this is just a test bed for their upcoming hybrid power train using rotary. Only then, with a gas engine this small battery makes some sense. As it is right now, very small back seats, short range and high price it is not going to sell much.
I have the average speed function on my Kia Optima plug-in hybrid 2018. But requires online connection
I didn't get that bit from 6:39 at all... What does it do?
Has Mazda advanced enough to remember mirror positions with the seat memory or is it still doing the seat only?
10:08 Sausage penetration 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
10:18 Double winner penetration 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why not use Android Auto/Apple CarPlay with Google Maps or Waze for navigation?
It is a failure of the operators to reduce the number of chademo chargers in Norway. Nissan Leaf is the most-selling car in Norway, and there are lots of Kia Soul and other models that use Chademo. Also fun to see that those with cars with 150 kws chargers prefer 50 kws charging.
*kW
Love the content you do! No bulls#*@ or hidden agenda 👍.Whats the deal with regen in EV's, does it make any difference? Can you test it/include it sometime? Cheers!
Until today I did not know double wiener penetration even was a thing. But Mazda MX-30 is a great car for the money, it just has too small balls. Give it the fat cells !
Then it wouldn't be as cheap, would it? 😉
Doesn't it have voice control for navigation?
This car pretty bad for an EV in 2020, so many people are still about range and not about recharging km/hour. The MX 30 is bad in both points. Imagine a trip on german autobahn with 150 kph 😂
I have been to norway in september with a Model 3 and was so happy about the low prices on supercharger, but it really is only the SuC, every other fastcharger in norway is expensive (it was like 4,5 NOk/kWh+1,25 NOK/min on a 50kw charger with 40kw output) and you need an app for every different company. Only AC charging was cheap too, but still more expensive than SuC.
Norway has the most EV density but not good charging "politics" from my point of view.
Is there such a thing as "Maingau" or "EnBW" (charging networks in germany) that allows you to charge from different brand at a good constant price?
Many people can do just fine with ~200 km range in their daily use. A Cosmo version with all that equipment and winter tires for less than €26k is a bargain if you ask me 👍
Clearly all the people commenting here about how bad or antiquated this car may be, are not seeing the big picture - this car is aimed directly at the Scandi market, where most people would do max 100km in a day, and then the car sits overnight on their home charger. So charging speed is irrelevant, and battery capacity is sufficient... especially when you need a larger car than a Zoe or Leaf, and all other larger cars on the market here in Sweden are 150-250K SEK more! (even smallish Hyundai and Kia) I'll give you a hint... Mazda sold out of their first production run here in Sweden, and are almost sold out of their 2nd for delivery next year, so the sales are defying everyone's opinion.
Agree, I got a Mazda in Sept, and so far I only charged at home. In addition, I charge till 70% and deliberately at 3.7 kW, this to save battery life. So far so good. Of course if you need to drive long distances this car is not for you, but then you must bring a bigger budget or go for a diesel car.
I was looking yesterday and even If I was to drive from one side to the other in my country I would only need two charging stops. Most "weekend" Trips I might take would be one stop. Trips in and out of the city won't need a charge. I agree with most people in that the charging speed and range is very poor but I have to think something like this is just nicer to be in and drive then most other EVs. Its also at least 5k cheaper
In Germany you geht Hyundai for a good price. Hyundai offers much better cars than that car, which might look Bug, nur ist mit Note roomy INSIDE than Zoe!
@@stefanjepp6612 Driving Kia/Hyundai at the moment its fine but not very nice to drive and the inside is low rent plastic
@@02semiata Agreed. This Mazda interior is the closest I have seen to a Volvo interior of any other El car on the market. It really is on another level to the Koreans.
I love when you throw in some German words 😂
They should've used the bottom display (AC) as a keyboard input for the main unit navi :/
When I look at the comments to this video it seems that most readers are stuck in the fossil fuel era when we used to drive 800 km, fuel up and go for the next 800 km. Or just fuel every two weeks and leisurely drive around. But this is not how you should look at EVs. Ask yourself the question, how often do I drive 800 Km, or 400 km, or 200 km, or even 50 km. Most of us will in fact be in the latter category. I analysed my car use and found that the only time I go over 200 km is when I go on holidays, and that is only when I do not fly. Most EV users, at least in the NL, have far too big batteries and this is certainly true for Tesla drivers. A friend of mine has a Tesla which he charges once a week (at home). Then you just have the wrong car which too much burdens the road network with excessive weight, burdens the environment due to unnecessary resource use in production of the car, and is simply too expensive to buy.
The long-term economics of these cars is also questionable. Take as an example the KIA e-Niro 64Kwh, which is a sales hit in Nl. I calculated total cost (depreciation, energy, insurance etc) over a five-year holding period and found that it could not compete with my old Lexus hybrid. The only reason so many were sold (in NL) is because of fiscal incentives. But with these fiscal incentives now being phased out, people are rediscovering plug-in hybrids.
Coming back to the Mazda, it is one of the best equipped yet cheapest EVs around, as Bjorn continues to point out, and this is precisely because of the small battery. It is one of the few EVs that is equally priced to its petrol counterpart (the CX30). Of course Mazda could have gone for a bigger battery, but then the car would have been € 5k more expensive, and no longer a direct alternative to a petrol car. The key problem with the Mazda (and MG) in my view is the fact that it cannot accept 11KW charging. Such 11KW chargers are all over the place (in NL) but the Mazda can only take 3.7KW from them. That is the real shame, not the battery size.
I agree with you... But I would have been ok to drop 5K on a longer range variant :-) As it is, I only really need a car for doing a whole lot of 3 to 5 mile trips per week, where I can charge it at home... so the MX-30 is fine for me.
Very good points! Spot on! Most people (including myself) drive less than 50 km per day. I test drove te MX-30 Cosmo, and I liked it so much (handling, comfort, equipment) that I ordered one! They currently have a deal for the Cosmo at €26k inkl winter tires, and at that price, you cannot possibly get a more equipped or comfortable car. It doesn't have great range, but like you said, you should buy a car you NEED, not just one with 400+ km range for that one time you go on holiday. In that case it would be much cheaper just renting a car for that one trip 👍
The battery temp indicator seems close to red from time to time. Did the battery cooling start?
Yes
Is this the same camera that recently toook a beating? It seems to have it's opinion on what to focus on.
Timestamp?
@@bjornnyland Hmm. At 15:47 to 16:22 the focus is on the bonnet. Actually, when I reviewed it I think the focus is on the windscreen. Hard to avoid, I guess. At 7:37 the HUD and infotainment is crystal clear, but the sign is not. Or maybe I'm just another keyboard warrior full of shieeeet.
€36,500 in Finland. The same or in many instances more expensive than all other EV's in that category. Even the Honda e comfort is cheaper than the Mazda. With so many better EV's around this price point, you'd have to be a Mazda fan boy (or quite naive) to choose this.
We just ordered a MX-30 Cosmo for less than €26,000 including winter tires, so that's a lot of car and equipment for the price 😉 If you don't need more than 200 km range daily, I think it's a good buy. It drives so well and is very quiet. I also test drove the e-Corsa, but I didn't like it much, seemed like quality wasn't as good.
all cars should be tested the same way, not many ppl buy a car for one purpose, that's not how life is.
can you make a 1000km test with the new mx30? it has 3 phase 11kw charger and charges dc with 56kw
I didn't bother doing it. My estimations shows that it would have taken 15 hours...
Do we get a 1000 km challenge, for the last place in the list? Will it be Honda-E or this thing? What do you think Bjørn?
Nope
5:10 what calculator app is that?
RealCalc Scientific Calculator
great, thank you.
Hi Bjorn, when are you getting your hands on an MG5 EV?
I have no idea.
@@bjornnyland No problem, thanks for the reply.
I would like to see a race between this and a Leaf 24 please :-)
How man hours can you drive The car .?
The range weenie comments are hilarious, the car is fine for its purpose, it isn't a long distance cruiser but neither are 99% of trips. You don't need a massive battery for the local trips people do in the real world. Maybe it isn't the best choice for driving into the mountains however :)
Having the charge port in the front makes more and more sense.
Nope, it will be full of schmutz and snow/ice.
This looks like a very well put together car indeed. Shame they couldn’t squeeze in a 50kWh pack.
very nice looking car but too bad not big battery as in nio or tesla
My Nissan leaf 2015 has about the same range: 120km summer and 80km in winter. Definitely this Mazda is not a option, even if you're thinking about this one as a city car. For kr 305.000 you get a leaf 59kw battery.
I guess it depends on whether the Mazda MX-30 in its existing guise and battery storage configuration suits your lifestyle. This was definitely designed for ME……though not for everyone. I don’t want a Nissan Leaf. The Mazda possesses attributes the Nissan Leaf doesn’t have, that suit me specifically.
You should do a race between this car and a KIA Soul EV with 27 kWh battery. I think KIA beats Mazda with no problem :)
the charger parking job still bugs my ocd lol
I parked it just so you could comment about it.
@@bjornnyland 😂
Grab some road paint and make EV parking lines great again!
Mazda is trying to sell this car as the second car in your family and as such I think is decent for the money.
In UK you can get new MG ze for £19k or ID3 for around £26k Mazda is bad value for money
@@xperyskop2475 agree. Value for money would sell this car even with bad stats.
But then Mazda has narrowed down the number of buyers also. It's that so smart?
Best part of the video 😂 10:14
Those headlights are horrible when you are on the right lane on a motorway, and overpassed by a vehicle equiped with this. I can not understand how they can be homologated. The reflection of the light on the left mirror is totally annoying.
It's a good looking car but seems a half hearted attempt battery could have been bigger the engine bay space could have been better utilised it's a compliance car and a missed opportunity it could have been so much better
16 min in so far and no thoughts on how the car is to drive yet. Noise isolation, steering, acceleration, safety assist systems? And does it have carplay or android auto? Then the infotainment system does not really matter, not at this price point.
It has Apple CarPlay and Android Auto 👍 And agreed, at this price (currently €26k for the Cosmo) you get tons of equipment and comfort for the price!
too bad only 300 km and rear "suicide" doors tthat can no open unless dront doors is opened first :(