How to use Active Track on Ronin-S | Force Mobile and Active Track Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- DJI released an unexpected Firmware Update for the Ronin-S that enables you to use Active Track 3.0 and Force Mobile. Through this update the Ronin-S now has the same Feature set as the Ronin-SC does.
Activ Track 3.0 enables you to track any selected object with the help of your Phone. The only downside is, you have to mount your phone on top of your camera. This setup makes it hard to balance your gimbal correctly and you need to follow certain rules to get the best out of these new features.
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I've been on the fence about purchasing the S vs the SC, but thanks to the new firmware update I will be purchasing it today. Thanks for the informative video.
I can see why you've been on the fence. I was considering the SC for a while myself. Now I'm glad I waited 😁
Your better off with the ronan S in regards to payload
Lol I just bought a Ronin S (I needed the payload) being torn about the new features of the SC. Thank you for your video, makes me happy to learn that I can enjoy that now 😎👍🏻
The payload made me stick with the Ronin S in the first place 😁. What setup are you rocking?
@@AttiBear EOS R/Ninja V and BM pocket 6K, I keep the cage on both when on the Ronin S. I just upgraded the firmware today, it's really cool. Also I noticed that they improved the focus wheel, you can now adjust the speed in the app from 1 to 100 for smooth or fast pulling (it works perfectly with my EOS R and L glasses).
Btw the new 1.4 firmware on the EOS R turned the AF into the next level, it's insane! idk if you tried it on yours.
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Yes please
Guys, the ronin SC is for smaller set ups , smaller lenses and barley any add ons...don’t recommend it if you use any heavy lenses or heavier cameras on your set up. Just sayin. 😊 but great video bruh
You are aware I was actually recommending the S not the SC right? 😉 Btw I totally agree with you on the SC. That's also the reason why I didn't got one. My gear is simply too heavy 😁
I must be living under a rock because I just heard about the active tracking with the Fujifilm XT3 today lol. Let me get this heavy rock off of me and try this active tracking out yay! Thanks for the video.
Hehe well you can't be aware of everything all the time. That's what I'm here for 😁. Did you have any time to test it yet?
I'm working on it now.
I haven't yet. Work keeps getting in the way LOL. But when I start I will be contacting you if you don't mind.
I know how it it is 😉. Just take your time
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Great demo
Thanks MARZACpro. Any other questions that need answering? 😉
Easy to assemble, good strong materials, feels good, looks good.
I had no idea you could do this. I’m going to update my robin s today!!!!
It's easy to miss stuff like this if it get's released later on right 😉. Did you have time to give it a shot yet?
Rob Schneider in the house! Great video!
🤣 Thanks Detonator6 ✌️
Learned more about live track... and your tripod setup... very nice.
Thanks Tom. Anything else you'd like to know more about?
Thanks for the tutorial. I have a vlog on my channel and I'll try this in those days.
Glad I could help Matjaž 😉
Best review I’ve seen. Very details. Good work
Awesome! Thank you Slyography 😃
for working the active track i must connect the camera with the smarphone?what is the correct order of connection?smartphone-camera-gimbal?thanks
great video thanks for making this may be more DJI Ronin-S Tutorials as firmware had may features
Thanks Mansoor. Are there any features in particular you'd like to know more about?
@@AttiBear a proper 3D 360 Roll, my ronin-s goes crazy
Could this tracking method be used on a monopod, using it like a jib? I wonder would it go super high and point down? This would be amazing. Maybe you can do a video on this? Anyway thank you for the video and response. :)
Hey Ed I don’t see a reason why this wouldn’t work 😉. You just need to figure out a way to select your subject before you enlarge the Monopod all the way 😁
Hi,
Great Video.. I am also trying to adjust my Ronin S with smartphone. I use Alpha 6400 with 35mm 1.8 lens + smartphone on the camera. I'm getting desperate with it. Can you give me a tip on how to best adjust the individual joints for this? I just can't get them in balance. Thank you!
Hi! Do you how good is it while tracking a single person in a crowded street?
@Atti Bear, very nice video! i hope dji will implements a option to scale the field of view in the tracking screen.
scaling the field of view would lead to a smaller tracking are. The bigger your field of view the longer the camera can track your subject. On the other hand it would be nice to have "safe area" indicators. That would make it easier to align the two feeds.
@@AttiBear yeah a safe area is a nice idea👌
Good job, Atti, thanks for the tips. Were you able to use Active Track while recording externally to Atomos Ninja V? I can see it on your rig and it seems to be recording.
My pleasure 😉! Yes of course. The tracking does not affect recording in any way, cause only the Ronin and your phone is involved in it.
I wonder how you can be in the middle of the camera image when the phone and camera sensors are not at the same place 🤔
Awesome video, very informative. Can you tell me what hot shoe mount do you use? Or do I need the original one from DJI?
Thanks Marten. Glad I could be of assistance. I'm using the aputure ballhead with the joby phone mount. Those I had lying around 😁. basically you can use every phone mount that securely holds your phone. Would it be helpful if I do a review about my Ronin S accessories?
Amazing I need to buy a phone mount now
Guess the sales on phone mounts are through the roof by now 😁. Make sure to get one that brings your sensors as close to each other as possible.
@@AttiBear Do you know any good phone holder? The dji one is not in stock
really helpful dude! Could you do a video on how to balance the ronin s with a smartphone on top of it? This is a big stuggle to me
I'll put together a little video and post it on insta or tiktok 😃
@@AttiBear did you do it?
Great video! But quick question - for active track mode, if you are a solo creator, how do you start the active track so that it tracks your head if you are by yourself? Don't you have to have your head within the iphone camera field so that it can track? How do you highlight your own head when you start the active tracking?
Use your fist to mark where the center is for the tracker then move your face to the same position where your face was then tap the trigger on the gimbal. This is the best way I got
@@bmxguy411 nice, great technique - I’ll have to try that!
Hey man , Great video I was looking for this and your video was a life saver. But for some reason the force mobile on my robin inverted :( . Any way to fix this ?
Great video I will try this when I get home
Let me know if you were successful 😉
@@AttiBear o yes I was successful and loving it
I didn't found active track on my dji ronin app, can I have any suggestion
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! 😉
Does the Iphone have to be actively recording the whole time the camera is for the face tracking to work?
No the iPhone is not recording at all. It only "observes".
great!! thankyou
my pleasure 😉
@@AttiBear Youve got some great content on your channel! It really helps us! Thank you so much my friend. RJ :)
You are too kind RJ. Comments like yours are the reason I love this job 🤩
Thank you for this! I have to try this out when I get home. What is that handle you are using on your ronin? do you find it helps?
Glad I could be of assistance. I'm using the Smallrig Handle (geni.us/zkEhXF). It massively increases the Ronin's versatility and enables you to work with bigger payloads more easily. Would you be interested in a review about my Ronin Accessories?
@@AttiBear definitely would love a review or stuff that has helped you. I have some and a weird setup that works sort of, but always looking to improve it. Link is working just has an extra bracket...
yes but can you make it to where you are always in the 3rd upper quadrant!? Aka good composition?
Once tracking is engaged, you can always reframe.
Has anyone used this RS3 on camera Sony ZVE10? What’s it like? When it comes to using the transmitter?
I’ve been struggling with this feature using an iphone 6, do you think it the phone makes any difference? Does the tracking rely on the phone’s camera?
Yes this feature is 100% relying on the phones camera. The better it is the better your tracking will be
@@AttiBear i guess it's time to upgrade my phone then smh. Thanks for the video and the reply!
Sure thing Charles. I'm always happy to help 😃
Hello thank for video. I tried yesterday but had a lot of vibration on the ronin so is impossible to work. I balanced all axes before to start
Balancing is one thing. Make sure to run Autotune prior using, so the Motors are stiff enough
@@AttiBear thank you very much. Doing autotune works fine.
awesome bro
You are most welcome 🙏
Great informative content 👍👍👍
Thanks Mehdi 😃
Will I be able to do this with a Nikon d5300? I have a ronnin s, but the auto focus is bad on the Nikon d5300
Of course. The tracking is done by your phone and not the camera.
Will it follow the cars or airplanes ? Is it good for my gear ( canon 100-400 + Panasonic GH5 )
It follows what ever you select. The algorithm they use is quite flexible. I think balancing your lens could get tricky. I can balance the RF 70-200 with my EOS R but it takes some time.
Atti Bear Thank you so much for the information
With the raven addon how do you utilise the hdmi output? I would like to use the active track feature but same time output hdmi to my atem switcher unit
You can't you'd need to loop it through the ATEM. Same goes for every other HDMI Device.
Still dont understand how you were able to frame yourself from in front of your camera 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
The EOS-R has a swivel screen and I'm also using an external monitor so this makes aligning the smartphone easier.
They've added a new feature where you frame the subject while you're in active track with your cellphone and just simply tap the trigger on the Ronin s begins to track.You'll have to estimate the framing if you're framing yourself
Awesome thanks!
No Problem! Always happy to help Cliff 😉
@@AttiBear Can you give me the link to what you use to clip your phone to the hotshoe?
Which Ronin S or Ronin SC would be best in filmmaking and which is always good?
Hey Fharuk, Ronin S and SC are basically the same gimbal. The better gimbal for your purposes is depending on the gear you'll be using. The payload limit for the Ronin SC is at 2,5 KG. If you are below that threshold you'll be better of with the Ronin SC cause it's significantly lighter than the Ronin S.
if i buy ronin s so active track and force mobile would work with it , bcz mobile application support all dji gimbals ?? right!!
correct 😉
@@AttiBear thanks :)
nikon d3300 and af-s 50mm 1.8g.... which ronis support?
Would placing the iphone lens even more centered to the camera´s lens render better results?
i could use some sort of small swing arm to get it centered on the barrel of the camera´s lens in both axis! what do you think?
thanks for the review
The more centered your phone lens is the better, but also consider that it'll get harder to balance the gimbal with your phone on top. In the end you'll have to try it with your individual setup to see how well it works
But wait, you need to draw a box on yourself to activate it, but how will it track you when your drawing it on your phone, you wont be in frame??
By reaching behind your rig. Your face will be prioritised in the selection.
What cable do you use to connect the eos to the ronin?
You can use the stock USB-C Cable that comes with the Ronin for the EOS R
you can also get an adapter type c to type b, i got my t7i working
Do both these features work on Android ?
Is it have Track mode? The one that programmable.
yes it does
Have seen u have EF 16-35 f2.8 on R , working well on SC in all angle ?
Yeah all EF Lenses work perfectly on RF Mount. Can't tell them apart
@@AttiBear No no i mean on that Gimbal
can you select what lens of the iphone to use for the tracking ? thanks
No you can't. But don't forget, the wider your field of view, the bigger your trackable area. This means it can track your subject easier if it moves fast
So - how does this active track compare vs the Arc II? Using this with a simple motorized slider would be cheaper than the Arc II and its slider. The only goal is to have a constantly moving position on a loop with tracking to keep subject centered. Anyone have any opinions? Also going to try Jigabot which will probably be more accurate since it uses IR sensors. But tilt control via auto tracking would be nice too.
Unfortunately I don't have an Arc II on my hands but DJI's Active Track is very responsive and does a great job in recognizing objects. A motorized slider with the Osmo Mobile 3 on top is probably unbeatable at this price 😁
@@AttiBear Nice! Thanks very much for your response and insight! I would get more use out of the Osmo anyway at other times, so that is a really great suggestion. Definitely going to try it out! :)
Zhiyun have more features, for example the "active track" mode works from HDMI signal straight out of the camera, motor lock system like Ronin SC, you can change camera settings from the gimbal etc... So I think Dji needs to make a step further and release a more "PRO" edition because they have an advantage from Zhiyun and that is the stabilise algorithm which is much better in my opinion.
Which Zhiyun model are you talking about?
Bullshit Zhiyun has ! I bought a V2 and realized it cant do shit compared to the SC and the SC is lower priced by 20%. With 50% better features. The crane V2 had no app for it. The Zhuyun company told me to "experiment" with their other gimbals apps, wow what professionalism. Then the app is so crude and illogical (obvious low end Chinese style). DJI is high end Chinese stuff, still chinese but not badly worded dialogs and all. The Zhiyun app will never connect, cant do a time-lapse properly and will forget steps in a time-lapse. I just wanted to throw it on the floor. All this is not user error. But rather a crippled app. I just gave up and bought this today.
Have you tried to use an external monitor? I’m finding that when my Nikon Z6 is connected to the ronin s it mutes the HDMI signal to the monitor. Has the update corrected this?
I'm sorry I don't have a Z6 on my hands. I can only speak for the EOS R in combination with the Atomos Ninja V and there's no issue with audio there 🤷♂️
Im not sure what im doing wrong, but when i use active track with my iphone 6s plus. As soon as i have a motive, the gimbal starts spinning around.... :( And it stop spinning, when loosing the motive on the iphone camera.
Ok that sounds weird. Have you tried it with another iPhone? This way you could narrow it down
@@AttiBear Fixed it. The phone was fixed at the side of the gimbal. It NEEDs to be fixed on Top of the Gimbal. Now it works fine :)
Yes that's mandatory 😁. Enjoy creating ✌️
Can you do that with the weebal lab
No 🤷♂️
hey man, what is the brand of this wooden handle ?
Hey Marwan, that's the Grip from Smallrig ➡️ geni.us/zkEhXF
Holyyy shit don’t need a history lesson
Awesome 👏🏽...Can you please show us how to update the firmware? Thankz
Seriously? Lol.
Theres so many videos on that. DJI's own youtube tutorials are there !
Whats the maximum range for tracking
It works as long the object has a good contrast to its background and is visible to the camera
@@AttiBear so if i where to record a basketball video or something and i have a red jersey on and the camera is like 20 meters away would it still be able to track me?
As long your jersey is a different red than the court then I'd say yes 😁
@@AttiBear thank you so much mate👍
Where can i get that phone holder ?
Mine is a combination of a cold shoe ball head (geni.us/a1RS7A) and a Joby phone holder(geni.us/7wERU6o). This combination is cheaper than the Ronin-S/SC phone mount (geni.us/fVHBV) and is quite sturdy.
what type cable need for activ track?
You don't need any cable for active track to work. If you are using a supported cable, you can trigger the recording from your phone.
@@AttiBear ok thank you
great......
Thanks buddy
Danke, mein Lieber!
Immer wieder gerne 😉
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Can I mount a machine gun to this?