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I have a hard time figuring out what class i'd like. I usually played DK from wrath to... now and i feel like NO class is simular. I did also play a bit of warrior and druid, but it's completely differnet in tbc classic, so gotta figure it out. Would rather choose melee ;d
You put warrior on 'A' like it doesn't have 2 specs that are complete trash in all aspects of pvp let alone 1 decent pvp spec that is awful solo/ world pvp. Stupid opinions imo.
I played a ret pally back in original TBC. Did 2's with a rogue around 2200-2500. Ret/rogue was probably the funnest comp I ever played in WoW arena. Was even more fun in Wrath :)
Great vid man. Crushing my dreams of the 2 classes I really wanted to play most though. "Ele cranks if it can get a cast off." Story of my life. (Looks like Ill rage quit TBC from getting trained by rogues) "The biggest problem with feral druid is its not a rogue." Heart break right there. I guess I'll settle for Spriest for aggressive caster/healer playstyle.
Lol, someone's got to be the punching bag class to make everyone feel good. Training the shaman into the dirt has always been so easy, they have no tools hahaha shits awful.
Bro, this is painfully accurate. My shaman has been my main since the original TBC. I really don't know why other than I love the playstyle. I always suck, bit it's fun at least!
Important note on Priest V Druid. Priest is stronger then rdruid in S1 hands down, especially if you're dwarf. Druid just gets better as expansion goes on.
I feel this is fairly accurate. Curious to see how it plays out on live. Hunter was definitely more broken on live back in the day then on endless for some reason.
Been maining my holy pally since classic. It's kinda sad that my Kara/honor geared char feels like a weaker healer compared to my lv65 quest-geared priest lol
SL/SL Warlocks were strong till S3, because in S1 and S2, drain life was not affected by MS. I doubt this latest version of TBC will reflect this and Blizzard will use the fixed S3/S4 version of drain life in earlier seasons/patches - this will benefit Warriors and Rogues. Warlocks will be more a caster slayer and pain for healers, but could get countered by any kind of warrior, undead rogues as well as BM Hunters. Mained a SL/SL lock in TBC in 2007 so i do tell from personal expierence. Safest bet is warrior, rogue and heal druid for arenas or any kind of pvp.(ok, i would not use a warrior for duels in tbc much) SL/SL remains one of the most fun caster specs to dominate other casters with, but has huge weaknesses against MS and pet kills. People will exploit that easily in arenas and melee cleaves. When i played TBC, i saw a TON of warriors in bgs and arenas - it was the most played pvp melee and there was a ton of high resilence druids. So while a frost mage has little chance to survive a SL/SL lock, said mage is certainly more needed to keep the FLOOD of warriors at bay in arenas/bgs, who will become a huge problem in S4, with bigger hp pools and resilence values and MS actually starts to really kick in.
What do you suggest for me to play with my friend whos gonna be a rogue in 2s, we want to reach high , i mention i would like to play as a dps more than a healer , thaanks !!
TBC was my entry to arena. I was 14 maybe 15 back then and had no real clue about the game. The journy to 2k in 2s and finally getting the shoulders with my hpala (with sl Wl) and mm hunter (with Disc) were so fun that I still remember it to this day. Also while there was some form of meta people were still open to play sub optimal stuff and gear didn't matter that much. Maybe I give Tbc a try even tough blizz tries to milk it with boosts and exclusive mounts...
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I feel personally attacked here! As someone who played an Hpally back during TBC to 2200 2s (w/ war, lock, and a hunter) and 2400 3s (war/rsham/hpally, war/lock/hpal) I'd say that they're not as niche as you're saying they are.
You getting to 2200 doesn't mean they are not niche. You definitely can do good. Its just the fact that for 100 arena teams there will be 60 with druid and 10 with hpal.
Hi there, hope you don't mind the message. I've just basically started WoW in last 2 weeks, I'm debating a Mage or Rogue. What would you say is the easier of the two too get to grips of? i.e Rotation, PvP etc.
What comps go with rogue in TBC? I have heard of RMP / RLD but what else is viable? My friend has a rogue and we have two others probably going to use the boost around that rogue to make a 3s comp. I was thinking warrior/healer but is it viable?
To boost a warrior or a rogue to play with my resto Druid friend.. that is the question. Warrior at heart but rogue looks fun too and just straight up better
@@Kozak_87 No you would just be playing a disc priest with a few talent points in damage rather than survivability. Even in full spell damage gear it still does far less dmg than shadow due to spell coefficients and no talent synergies.
Well, i don't know.. but really remember that i could 1v1 anything in an SP in TBC... however, that was when resilience kicks in... I'll still main SP, though.
But in 1vs1 i farmed all SPs with my SL/SL warlock. However, it was 2007 and i bet many people were not good at the game and SL/SL played itself he was my first main in wow. I think SP is fun a class that is fun is the most important thing, but 1vs1 with an warlock.....lets remember those fears in TBC did not break on dot dmg and drain life, and both the dots and drain life did actual dmg, unlike Shadowlands live servers, neither does dmg and there is no resilence, fear breaks almost instantly. Pve gear gives better mana regen, but it makes you soft, too. I also tried back in 2007, Fire Mage, just for duels. I felt it was a better duel spec than Frost, frost was too predictable, problem was with pvp gear you had horrible mana regen and you were oom instantly after 1 duel. Mana regen is really a thing in the older wow expansions and the lock has the advantage to fill up his hp bar quickly and have no mana issues, also before s3, he could heal through MS affects with no penality. How was performance of SP against arms warrior, rogue and BM hunter? Basicly SL/SL counters in duels as in TBC it was merely just important to keep up the fear with the dots running that did not break it, but those classes had immunity cds.
Any advice for feral druid in arenas? I played through all TBC and after season one i had to go resto, but I HATE healing in arenas. What kind of pve gear do i need to combine into my pvp gear to make this work? Or at least do you have somewhere you can point me cause its hard to find any info about legit feral arena info
@Stoopzz_TV Hey buddy! I'm thinking about getting back into WOW, former PVP player. I saw you video, and fact you've started a PVP guild. Is it full? I'd love to apply & quite honestly, it'd give me the confidence/push, to play again :) Let me know! Thanks bro!
Spriests in general are good but not on the level of mage or lock. They rely on their teammates and healers to keep them alive and have no spammable CC or defensive cooldowns, so I'd agree they are below mage and lock. Some comps using them for burst damage are good but hinge on the other character more than the priest. I know because I was a tier 6 shadowpriest back in the day and probably the highest ranked one on my server's faction.
@@Gavinbelson and what s better on mog AND racial between a human and a UD rogue ? x) because on retail i have both it s no problem but i do not believe getting two rogue 70 is playable
im late but undead rogue is better than human because there are going to be a lot of priest, warlocks and warriors and having 2 trinket against them is overpowered
Best 3s for war warrior priest druid 2 healers. With shadow priest I am between a and b because 2s with rogue is very very good team and 3s i think shadow priest mage shaman can works my opinion, and the class I will play is priest I for pvp pve healer or dps ty for the video
I’ve always been a healer. I wanna play something new besides priest or Druid. Is Holy paladin really that bad? I think o could make it work. What do you guys think?
It's fun but arena will be like shadowlands.any dps/resto druid you will see in 2's 45m games..lol.you will see the same meta comps at some point. I like bgs my self and the best thing about tbc pvp that shadowlands doesn't have is the previous seasons gear becomes available to buy with honor. So you aren't to far behind in pvp
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Here is a list of top S2 S3 2v2 setups for you guys who wanna get a head start: Druid/lock Druid/hunter Druid/war Druid/rogue Priest/rogue Priest/mage Priest/hunter Mage/rogue Pala/warrior Pala/hunter Rogue/rogue
Stoopz really good feral's wich luckly are very rare, are amazingly OP. I played retail TBC and 8 years in privates and times to time i come across good feral's and to start of 1v1 is the strongest class in TBC, in the arena 2v2 they suffer a bit from teams with SL/SL lock and Rogue/mage but apart from that they can destroi any team, they bring roots clone stun they have a curse that rogues can't stealth anymore and they have really good dmg just comes with a super high skill cap. And the famous restokin is crazy too if well played. P.S. Can you try a "bug" on PTR it goes like this you create a mage and you put a meta gem that any spell has a chance to give you mana back, then you buy some greater astral planar i think this is the name but is the best enchanter mat that you can turn 3 into 1 and 1 into 3, then u macro a macro that keep turning 3 to 1, 1 to 3, 3 to 1, 1 to 3 and this counts as spell wich can trigger the meta gem and give you full mana. make a vid with the test plz would love to see
I think a better way to put it would be that all the other melee specs just have more viability and options to work with. Paladins can be good but they're just the weakest of the roster.
Stooppz hate for shamans is real I remember being able to windfury down any class in tbc as enhance.i can't wait to do it again. Ele doesn't scale well which means Once there is more and more resilience in the game they won't do as much damage as they do at the start Double windfury ftw.
Resto Druid if you want to rely almost entirely on your teammate(s) to score a kill. You can get crafty with your cyclone by cycloning a low health target that just popped defenses cds so they can’t get their health up during that duration and shit but mostly the best you can do is to just cc perfectly. Disc priest if you wanna be able to carry people with lower gear or skill. Or if you have a specific group of friends who are really good at rogue and mage. Late expansion high level play you’ll have an easier time competing as rdruid - disc has a higher skill ceiling and you’re going to get into a lot of mana wars
@@danfontaine8179 well said! Still deciding, I’m thinking Priest will be better for first few seasons (like a lot of people have said) and Druid in the later seasons. Maybe I’ll boost priest and level a Druid later
Also enha shaman is op as fuck as ORC cause of overhit capp... with arms warrior its ggwp 3k raiting 2v2, also ele shaman with prot warrior cause of stuns ez pez....
Ele is not good in 2s and 3s but are amazing in 5s. They bring the only group wide CD in blood lust/heroism which will be mandatory in 5s. So if you still want to play Ele and be competitive in PvP 5s is your bracket.
I really hope everyone picks the class they enjoy!! That is what TBC is about :)
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I'd argue this should be the case on retail too. But everyone is fotm. Sadge.
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I have a hard time figuring out what class i'd like. I usually played DK from wrath to... now and i feel like NO class is simular. I did also play a bit of warrior and druid, but it's completely differnet in tbc classic, so gotta figure it out. Would rather choose melee ;d
You put warrior on 'A' like it doesn't have 2 specs that are complete trash in all aspects of pvp let alone 1 decent pvp spec that is awful solo/ world pvp. Stupid opinions imo.
Great vid man, would love to see you do a comp tier list for both 2's and 3's!
good video :)
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Glaive rogue was the first class that blew my mind back in the day. Can’t wait to see one again
first seen male undead was awesome af
I still have the Sonny Restoration videos downloaded on my hard drive from back in the day.
Nice vid Stoopzz.
How about a video about classes/races synergy? I think many people underestimate some races and overestimate others.
I played a ret pally back in original TBC. Did 2's with a rogue around 2200-2500. Ret/rogue was probably the funnest comp I ever played in WoW arena. Was even more fun in Wrath :)
Great vid man. Crushing my dreams of the 2 classes I really wanted to play most though.
"Ele cranks if it can get a cast off." Story of my life. (Looks like Ill rage quit TBC from getting trained by rogues)
"The biggest problem with feral druid is its not a rogue." Heart break right there.
I guess I'll settle for Spriest for aggressive caster/healer playstyle.
Yea I was going to enhance or ret rip lol.
Never played a resto druid so I think I'm going to give it a try!
Cant dspell sheep hf
Every expansion I always level my Shaman and I always regret it lol
Lol, someone's got to be the punching bag class to make everyone feel good. Training the shaman into the dirt has always been so easy, they have no tools hahaha shits awful.
Bro, this is painfully accurate. My shaman has been my main since the original TBC. I really don't know why other than I love the playstyle. I always suck, bit it's fun at least!
Shamans are the best class in the game bro. That's why we play them :D Coolest class.
Same here
Be resilient my friend, and by that I mean stack resilience
Important note on Priest V Druid. Priest is stronger then rdruid in S1 hands down, especially if you're dwarf. Druid just gets better as expansion goes on.
Stoopzz just understands WoW PvP better than anyone I've encountered speaking on the subject.
10:27 Chan mastered killing with just glaring
Excellent work on that tier list bro! That takes a lot of research that I didn't have to do. Thanks for the good work! :D
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I feel this is fairly accurate. Curious to see how it plays out on live. Hunter was definitely more broken on live back in the day then on endless for some reason.
Been maining my holy pally since classic. It's kinda sad that my Kara/honor geared char feels like a weaker healer compared to my lv65 quest-geared priest lol
SL/SL Warlocks were strong till S3, because in S1 and S2, drain life was not affected by MS. I doubt this latest version of TBC will reflect this and Blizzard will use the fixed S3/S4 version of drain life in earlier seasons/patches - this will benefit Warriors and Rogues. Warlocks will be more a caster slayer and pain for healers, but could get countered by any kind of warrior, undead rogues as well as BM Hunters. Mained a SL/SL lock in TBC in 2007 so i do tell from personal expierence.
Safest bet is warrior, rogue and heal druid for arenas or any kind of pvp.(ok, i would not use a warrior for duels in tbc much) SL/SL remains one of the most fun caster specs to dominate other casters with, but has huge weaknesses against MS and pet kills. People will exploit that easily in arenas and melee cleaves. When i played TBC, i saw a TON of warriors in bgs and arenas - it was the most played pvp melee and there was a ton of high resilence druids.
So while a frost mage has little chance to survive a SL/SL lock, said mage is certainly more needed to keep the FLOOD of warriors at bay in arenas/bgs, who will become a huge problem in S4, with bigger hp pools and resilence values and MS actually starts to really kick in.
What do you suggest for me to play with my friend whos gonna be a rogue in 2s, we want to reach high , i mention i would like to play as a dps more than a healer , thaanks !!
I played 2 handed enh shaman in tbc. I use to 1 shot people in bgs as long as they had less then 10k hp.
is endless an instant 70 server? wanna try something out
Tournament realms on endless are.
TBC was my entry to arena. I was 14 maybe 15 back then and had no real clue about the game. The journy to 2k in 2s and finally getting the shoulders with my hpala (with sl Wl) and mm hunter (with Disc) were so fun that I still remember it to this day. Also while there was some form of meta people were still open to play sub optimal stuff and gear didn't matter that much. Maybe I give Tbc a try even tough blizz tries to milk it with boosts and exclusive mounts...
u honestly believe people won't be meta slaves in 2021 tbc xd ? you probably didn't play classic wow
@@markosusa5823 where did he say that
@@nathancasey7712 cant explain you if u cant see it for yourself
I’m rolling human rogue/gnome warlock and I couldn’t be more excited! TBC is gonna be lit.
amazing video but what is best healer class/spec ( especially noob friendly) for the arenas?
Resto Druid
great video, speccs would have been a lot cooler though :D ! but still great,
Edit: oh you actually kinda went into the different speccs. awesome vid
Can you do one about specs as well?
He basically went over them in this video.
Thanks for all your efforts man! Literally been waiting for this 🙏 since I can't play the fucking beta yet 100% going for Glad
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@Jordy Willaert bruh
Priest looks really fun for a healer in tbc too ngl. Magic dispel is huge and the offensive capabilities are great
Yes priests are good next to r druids.
I feel personally attacked here! As someone who played an Hpally back during TBC to 2200 2s (w/ war, lock, and a hunter) and 2400 3s (war/rsham/hpally, war/lock/hpal) I'd say that they're not as niche as you're saying they are.
You getting to 2200 doesn't mean they are not niche. You definitely can do good. Its just the fact that for 100 arena teams there will be 60 with druid and 10 with hpal.
@@grabeck666 more like 2 with hpal lol
With endless you mean the private server right?
stoopz can you ranked all the expansions in terms of pvp? your personal point of view
smashed the like button faster than my opponents will me
Playing Undead Rogue back in TBC was bliss
@Generic Username I picked Rogue because they could duel wield at level 10
@MrMisterMan Lucky we get to play with mage a lot 🧊
Great video!
Hi there, hope you don't mind the message. I've just basically started WoW in last 2 weeks, I'm debating a Mage or Rogue. What would you say is the easier of the two too get to grips of? i.e Rotation, PvP etc.
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I think it would boil down to, do you want to be a caster, or a melee? Because that’s the main difference between the 2 prime dps classes.
Who should we take to warrior in 2v2 in case it is not a restordruid?
Think your opinion of warriors is too high.
I would put Rogue in S, and no other melee class in A.
Nice vid! Going Boomkin. Not planning on arena but just BG this time around.
What comps go with rogue in TBC? I have heard of RMP / RLD but what else is viable? My friend has a rogue and we have two others probably going to use the boost around that rogue to make a 3s comp. I was thinking warrior/healer but is it viable?
@@occheatsoft thanks for nothing daisy duck
To boost a warrior or a rogue to play with my resto Druid friend.. that is the question.
Warrior at heart but rogue looks fun too and just straight up better
If you enjoy sitting roots and snares, go for warrior.
Think I am going to play a Enhancement Shaman this time around. Always thought they were a interesting and fun class.
I love it too, but i also hate it becouse you Will be oom every minute :D
What's the best dueling class in TBC?
i`m lookin forward to try out a Smite priest in pvp. Do u think it`s a meme spec or can it be viable?
low damage, goes oom instantly, dies fast
@@mikeobama69 aka, a meme spec xD
@@Disrespectin21 yeah in pvp for sure. In pve ids smite priest is actually a viable thing if its the 2nd priest on the roster
but it should have better survivability than Shadow priest and deal similar damage
@@Kozak_87 No you would just be playing a disc priest with a few talent points in damage rather than survivability. Even in full spell damage gear it still does far less dmg than shadow due to spell coefficients and no talent synergies.
Who is the guy from the clip of the resto druid?
Got to admit I am loving pom pyro in this pre patch 😂go into skirmish and just one shot anyone 😂
Well, i don't know.. but really remember that i could 1v1 anything in an SP in TBC... however, that was when resilience kicks in... I'll still main SP, though.
This is an arena tier list not a 1v1 list.
But in 1vs1 i farmed all SPs with my SL/SL warlock. However, it was 2007 and i bet many people were not good at the game and SL/SL played itself he was my first main in wow. I think SP is fun a class that is fun is the most important thing, but 1vs1 with an warlock.....lets remember those fears in TBC did not break on dot dmg and drain life, and both the dots and drain life did actual dmg, unlike Shadowlands live servers, neither does dmg and there is no resilence, fear breaks almost instantly.
Pve gear gives better mana regen, but it makes you soft, too.
I also tried back in 2007, Fire Mage, just for duels. I felt it was a better duel spec than Frost, frost was too predictable, problem was with pvp gear you had horrible mana regen and you were oom instantly after 1 duel.
Mana regen is really a thing in the older wow expansions and the lock has the advantage to fill up his hp bar quickly and have no mana issues, also before s3, he could heal through MS affects with no penality.
How was performance of SP against arms warrior, rogue and BM hunter? Basicly SL/SL counters in duels as in TBC it was merely just important to keep up the fear with the dots running that did not break it, but those classes had immunity cds.
@@zeusapollo6504 Are hunters pretty good in open world 1v1's?
Any advice for feral druid in arenas? I played through all TBC and after season one i had to go resto, but I HATE healing in arenas. What kind of pve gear do i need to combine into my pvp gear to make this work? Or at least do you have somewhere you can point me cause its hard to find any info about legit feral arena info
Playing feral is always going to be a struggle, doesn't matter what gear you get, it's just not a good PvP spec in TBC.
It doesn't. Wait for WOTLK.
Check out uzbeki feral videos, but even he wouldn’t recommend going feral until season 3
Might be really stupid but has anyone ever tried, say 3 mages 1 frost,fire and arcane? Or any other classes with one in each spec? Just curious
Awesome video!! Too bad I still can't decide 🙃
what about ret diac so disc can put ps on pally when he wants to use his wings
@Stoopzz_TV Hey buddy! I'm thinking about getting back into WOW, former PVP player. I saw you video, and fact you've started a PVP guild. Is it full? I'd love to apply & quite honestly, it'd give me the confidence/push, to play again :) Let me know! Thanks bro!
Video starts @ 3:00
Spriest has some really good comps rogue/spriest, mage/spriest and in 3s shatterplay/shadowplay are very good
Spriests in general are good but not on the level of mage or lock. They rely on their teammates and healers to keep them alive and have no spammable CC or defensive cooldowns, so I'd agree they are below mage and lock. Some comps using them for burst damage are good but hinge on the other character more than the priest. I know because I was a tier 6 shadowpriest back in the day and probably the highest ranked one on my server's faction.
What server for BC if you want to PVP?
WELL TIMED MACED STUN BRUH
Great content. Like the graphic.
if i really like retail rogue, is tbc rogue a safe pick ? i don t know what to do for classic, i m really into wild pvp... any advices or opinion ?
retail rogue is a literal NAT compared to tbc rogue, they are gods in TBC.
@@Gavinbelson and what s better on mog AND racial between a human and a UD rogue ? x)
because on retail i have both it s no problem but i do not believe getting two rogue 70 is playable
By mog i mean visual apperance, animations etc...
@@honorevoisin1014 go watch video of classic or play on a private server to see
im late but undead rogue is better than human because there are going to be a lot of priest, warlocks and warriors and having 2 trinket against them is overpowered
what about BG's and open world PVP?
Cheap shot and kidney shot not DRing was a thing back in the day? Both are stuns so why they wouldn't DR.
kidney shot doesnt DR with any other stun in the game, call it stupid but thats how it works.
Best 3s for war warrior priest druid 2 healers. With shadow priest I am between a and b because 2s with rogue is very very good team and 3s i think shadow priest mage shaman can works my opinion, and the class I will play is priest I for pvp pve healer or dps ty for the video
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I can't decide between UD or Troll for SP. I wanna play both 2's and 3's but i feel like i HAVE to go troll if i wanna do 3's.
Hex of weakness is incredibly powerful against any non-druid or mage comp, or just against bad dispellers.
I’ve always been a healer. I wanna play something new besides priest or Druid. Is Holy paladin really that bad? I think o could make it work. What do you guys think?
It's pretty bad, but play what makes you happy
In other words avoid
Fuck no
Sorry but do you have ANY experience in TBC? I know you play retail.
Rogue restokin should go far...
Those cyclone booms with swiftmend and game control
Backround/outro song name?
what about 5v5 ? I remember some fun comps like 5 balance druids.
Thats not a tbc thing, you dont have starfall or solar beam, there is literally nothing scary about 5 boomkins that need to cast.
The only think i dont like its you have to pay each time you chang specs
what professions as SP pvp ?
So how is tbc pvp compared to shadowlands? Quit shadowlands a while ago cause the pvp system just wasn't cutting it for me
It's fun but arena will be like shadowlands.any dps/resto druid you will see in 2's 45m games..lol.you will see the same meta comps at some point.
I like bgs my self and the best thing about tbc pvp that shadowlands doesn't have is the previous seasons gear becomes available to buy with honor.
So you aren't to far behind in pvp
shadowlands is way more mechanic based, TBC is more knowledge based.
@@hvdhvd-zt3js no
@obrovský mozek I disagree with few playable classes
You left out the fact that rogues can equip the warglaives....so theres that.... XD
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hpal is great in double healer comps
Opera is pretty neat
Here is a list of top S2 S3 2v2 setups for you guys who wanna get a head start:
Druid/lock
Druid/hunter
Druid/war
Druid/rogue
Priest/rogue
Priest/mage
Priest/hunter
Mage/rogue
Pala/warrior
Pala/hunter
Rogue/rogue
Stoopz really good feral's wich luckly are very rare, are amazingly OP. I played retail TBC and 8 years in privates and times to time i come across good feral's and to start of 1v1 is the strongest class in TBC, in the arena 2v2 they suffer a bit from teams with SL/SL lock and Rogue/mage but apart from that they can destroi any team, they bring roots clone stun they have a curse that rogues can't stealth anymore and they have really good dmg just comes with a super high skill cap. And the famous restokin is crazy too if well played.
P.S. Can you try a "bug" on PTR it goes like this you create a mage and you put a meta gem that any spell has a chance to give you mana back, then you buy some greater astral planar i think this is the name but is the best enchanter mat that you can turn 3 into 1 and 1 into 3, then u macro a macro that keep turning 3 to 1, 1 to 3, 3 to 1, 1 to 3 and this counts as spell wich can trigger the meta gem and give you full mana. make a vid with the test plz would love to see
Ferals are far from OP and it's not just because no one knows how to play them, it's because they suck.
He mentioned when going over holy paladin they are one of the best gold farmers in the game. Can anyone explain this to me?
AoE farming mobs as prot
Concetration, holy shield plus the shield from sporregar rep and everything dies in aoe.
Classes like mages have their aoe spells nerfed, but not pallys as concecration is a ground effect techniqually, so they get to aoe farm
farming strath for raw gold selling items
Why is pally one of the best gold farmers?
Tank aoe mob grinding.
What is the best helm atm to create a horde toon? (faerlina is out cause my ally is there)
Feral best comp in 2s is Feral/rog not /w healer
Looks like I’m going ele/boomkin
How come you're talking about PvE in an arena PvP tier list?
Because PVE players are going to shit down pvp exclusive players throats
we rogues are the best and we dominate pvp,
if youre a rogue like this comment lets see how many rogues we got here
Spriest keep recking me in 2s, and they never run out of mana! Kind of annoying tbh
saying retri is bad overall in arenas in TBC, u clearly didnt play vanila TBC then...
It is bad.
I think a better way to put it would be that all the other melee specs just have more viability and options to work with. Paladins can be good but they're just the weakest of the roster.
Stooppz hate for shamans is real I remember being able to windfury down any class in tbc as enhance.i can't wait to do it again.
Ele doesn't scale well which means Once there is more and more resilience in the game they won't do as much damage as they do at the start
Double windfury ftw.
what about the 4 second stun mace that warriors get? i think that automatically makes them on par with rogues
Hpally/warr too
Disc/feral, rdruid/feral and no mention of it's best comp rogue/feral?
If you want to play a pala you can find a 5v5 team no problem.
Resto Druid or Disc Priest as main alt for PvP focus... which one lads???
Resto Druid if you want to rely almost entirely on your teammate(s) to score a kill. You can get crafty with your cyclone by cycloning a low health target that just popped defenses cds so they can’t get their health up during that duration and shit but mostly the best you can do is to just cc perfectly.
Disc priest if you wanna be able to carry people with lower gear or skill. Or if you have a specific group of friends who are really good at rogue and mage.
Late expansion high level play you’ll have an easier time competing as rdruid - disc has a higher skill ceiling and you’re going to get into a lot of mana wars
@@danfontaine8179 well said! Still deciding, I’m thinking Priest will be better for first few seasons (like a lot of people have said) and Druid in the later seasons. Maybe I’ll boost priest and level a Druid later
Also enha shaman is op as fuck as ORC cause of overhit capp... with arms warrior its ggwp 3k raiting 2v2, also ele shaman with prot warrior cause of stuns ez pez....
Bull shit paladin was Niche in BC, the Prot Holy hybrid was absolutely insane possible the best spec in the game
There are servers up right now in season 4. So you can test it for yourself!
Didn't know being the worst healer in the game was absolutely insane.
It's definitely niche/trash
shaman is the strongest with a warrior
I hear people are saying they ruined tbc before it even dropped. 😂😂
Turned out to be true 😂
is ret/rsham s teir in 2s?
Any dps/resto druid is s tier.thats all you will see in 2s
Yes it is very good can 1 shot any class randomly
@@hvdhvd-zt3js Except any dps/druid really means warrior, warlock, hunter, rogue, all the other dps specs are way behind.
@@hvdhvd-zt3js wrong af
Absolutely not. B tier at highest, Rsham isn't even s tier with a warrior. It certainly doesn't get there with a ret.
I wish they would’ve told me not too go horde…….!!!!
"unfortunately we have a sponsor for this video" - dude wtf, free $$$
He said "Now fortunately" haha
agree with this tier list 100%. wouldn't change anything
Ele is not good in 2s and 3s but are amazing in 5s. They bring the only group wide CD in blood lust/heroism which will be mandatory in 5s. So if you still want to play Ele and be competitive in PvP 5s is your bracket.