Lifting Your Toyota will Void the Warranty

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2022
  • My 2022 Tundra is leaking oil with just 6k miles and Toyota won’t fix it.
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  • @davidwethington9320
    @davidwethington9320 Год назад +81

    My dealer told me I could lift my Tacoma and 4runner up to 3 inches without voiding the warranty. Also was told that you can make modifications and warranty would be good unless they show that said modification caused the issue. Was also told it only concerned the affected parts not the whole warranty. I would do some more digging. Sounds like your dealership is up to some shenanigans.

    • @bobbydigital1747
      @bobbydigital1747 Год назад +8

      100% agree. I was told the same thing

    • @TheIdk1234567
      @TheIdk1234567 Год назад +2

      I was told the same thing with my tundra until the cv axle boot came loose and then they said that usually they don't fix them since I had a leveling kit.

    • @crayton1995
      @crayton1995 Год назад +1

      I just called after watching this and got a new 22 4runner 2 weeks ago and was told the same thing.

    • @scottvamp
      @scottvamp Год назад

      Here is Northern Nevada, people lift their Toyota trucks right away. The service department enjoys seeing them and people like showing them off. It’s something that they would have to prove the lift caused to void the warranty.

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Год назад

      @@scottvamp All they have to do is show a change from stock to void the warranty.

  • @bbrickner2
    @bbrickner2 Год назад +70

    Yeah, Magnuson Moss warranty act seems to contradict that. They need to prove that the modification was the cause of the failure and then it's not covered. Otherwise, they would need to honor the warranty.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +7

      So, what, he is just gunna walk in and tell them that and they are gunna say, "oh, you're right, we'll fix it".
      Doubt it. My guess is the cost of the lawyer and going to court to force them into it is more expensive then just paying for the fix.

    • @Alex-pe4rj
      @Alex-pe4rj Год назад +4

      Toyota would be on the hook for your lawyer fees if you were to win.

    • @bbrickner2
      @bbrickner2 Год назад +4

      @@Jay-me7gw They assume most people are ill-informed or unaware about their rights. I've dealt with this issue several times where dealerships tell people if an insurance company puts an aftermarket part on a car it voids the warranty. Sometimes all it does take is someone just stating they can't do that and provide the information as to why for it to get resolved.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +13

      @@bbrickner2 But Toyota also has a very solid case in this instance that the 2" leveling spacer could cause the damage. You're now asking the suspension and shafts to deal with 2" of extra droop. Never mind that he is also trying to turn 70 lb Geolandars.
      This isnt just someone installing an intake or catback exhaust that didnt do anything to add any power.
      Seems like a losing battle to me.
      Instead, you could just get the TRD lift kit that comes with new shafts, knuckles, tie rods, upper control arms, shocks, springs etc etc etc, and do it right.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +5

      @@Alex-pe4rj If you were to win. All toyota has to do is say that a 2" leveling spacer puts the suspension outside of its normal travel range(since it now pushes the shock down) and led to the damage.

  • @scotturich
    @scotturich Год назад +11

    He actually wasn’t drifting, he was Autocrossing his car and Toyota gives you a 1 year membership to NASA for road racing. Toyota took care of him but it was the dealership that was the problem.

  • @mattstrandberg8664
    @mattstrandberg8664 Год назад +18

    Just got my 22 Tundra 3 days ago and am putting a 3/1” leveling kit on right now. I asked my dealership and parts department prior. They said it was fine and won’t void. It was text so I screen shotted it.
    I would have them prove it was from the spacers.. Highly doubtful. Great videos big fan

    • @DreX-8810
      @DreX-8810 Год назад +1

      Same here not to mention Toyota lifting its own trucks using after market kits also

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Год назад

      All MODs are not covered by warranty. Dealer reps generally aren’t real smart.

    • @bcgunner9324
      @bcgunner9324 6 месяцев назад

      That means nothing. The dealership doesn't get to decide what will or will not void a warranty.. Toyota does.

  • @erikhammel3529
    @erikhammel3529 Год назад +11

    The problem with a 2" spacer lift is that it does change the drive shaft angle and puts more strain on the CV joints. Most bigger lifts drops the diff allowing that angle to stay the same.

    • @joshfellows9601
      @joshfellows9601 10 месяцев назад

      So say a 1.75 inch levelling kit should be ok then?

    • @Lubbock21
      @Lubbock21 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve owned 3 ford f-150 from 2015-2021 and I’ve installed a 2 inch level in the front and never had a problem not one I just don’t see how Toyota are fragile all of a sudden.

    • @bowl0noodles
      @bowl0noodles Месяц назад

      Agreed. Toyota's lift kit changes many parts to correct the geometry. Keeping your truck in warranty and full functionality of Toyota Safety Sense.

  • @michaellamph4790
    @michaellamph4790 Год назад +9

    1: Nothing VOIDS your warranty. The warranty will not cover damage caused by aftermarket parts.
    2: Leveling kits are not the same as lift kits. Putting huge tires and a spacer kit on a truck is ABSOLUTELY going to cause damage to CV axles if you're offroading the vehicle - which this person's Instagram account clearly shows he is. Further, he points out specifically that he has not replaced shocks, upper control arms, lower control arms, or installed a differential drop kit. THESE THINGS ARE ALL NECESSARY WHEN PROPERLY LIFTING YOUR VEHICLE to help restore proper geometry. Are you seriously complaining that you did the cheapest lift possible and trying to use the fact that you didn't install integral parts as you should have as a reason that Toyota should honor the warranty on parts you destroyed? How ridiculous.
    3: Yep. Toyota is encouraging people that want to do aftermarket modifications to purchase their vehicles. It works. Look at how many modified Toyotas you see out on the road. The warranty, however, clearly states that modifications that cause damage will not be covered. Who is at fault for not reading and understanding their warranty?
    4: It all depends on the dealer. Some dealers will absolutely cover their aftermarket work under a dealer warranty. Again, it's up to the buyer to understand their warranty and how their modifications may impact said warranty.
    I would encourage you all to learn the ins and outs of modifying a truck, accept liability where reasonable, and understand that the manufacturer is not at fault for modifications or damaged caused by modifications that you make. It's common sense. If you sold me a horse and tomorrow I put 4" horse shoes on the damned thing to make it taller, is it fair when I come back and demand a refund when the horse tripped and broke a leg? I miss the old days where we took responsibility for our actions instead of whining on RUclips about it.

    • @devilshaircut9
      @devilshaircut9 Год назад

      How do any of these mods stress the axle seals to failure or any more than without the mods?
      I'm just not able to visualize how this lift stresses those seals to the point of failure and how that might be different than a non-lifted of same?

    • @lifescansdarkly
      @lifescansdarkly Год назад +1

      @@devilshaircut9 From another comment (not mine): "A spacer lift with IFS Toyota is bound to have issues as you're moving the travel beyond what the front suspension was designed for. Most lifts just move the center of the travel down, reducing up down travel to have a higher center point. But they don't increase down travel. A spacer lift will increase your down travel to where you'll have CV issues."

  • @adam10532
    @adam10532 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very informal thank you.What lift is on your truck?

  • @whackityschmackitydo
    @whackityschmackitydo Год назад +17

    If you off road a 2” spacer with no diff drop, I think you’re on the hook for any issues. The angles may not be a problem on pavement, but even at slow speeds on uneven terrain, you’re putting extra strain on the front end with the excess weight of the tire and wheel combo.

    • @michaellamph4790
      @michaellamph4790 Год назад +6

      This is 100% accurate. 2" spacer lift, severely reducing up or down travel (depending on the type of spacer). No aftermarket UCAs, no shock upgrades, no diff drop.. This is 100% user error.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Год назад +4

      Was this an issue on the old Tundra?

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Год назад +6

      @@michaellamph4790 Spacers just aren't good.

    • @whackityschmackitydo
      @whackityschmackitydo Год назад +2

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 the issue isn’t the truck; it’s operator error.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Год назад +1

      @@whackityschmackitydo I was asking wether the old Tundra had the same problems with a 2" spacer.

  • @socalnation2373
    @socalnation2373 Год назад +1

    I installed 3/2 ReadyLift on my 2015 4x4 crewmax. I was told by Service manage at the dealership that I purchased my truck from. That the lift kit would not void my warranty. I had 2 minor mechanical issues that were related to each other about 2 yrs into ownership. Had nothing to do with the lift. Warranty was honored.

    • @firehawg136
      @firehawg136 Год назад +1

      I was told the same thing at my dealership before I purchased my '21 Tundra. They did tell me if I go over a 3" lift, it would void certain parts of warranty on the front end.

  • @DeathsInverse
    @DeathsInverse Год назад +2

    Well damn, sorry to hear this. I'm still on a waiting list for my Tundra and this is definitely something to consider.

  • @AllPowa287
    @AllPowa287 Год назад

    I'm sorry to hear about your truck. Back in 1999, I got the 2000 Tundra V8 and we had a service bulletin for the brakes. Shimmy issues etc. That was such an ordeal. As a diehard Toyota fan, this 3rd generation Tundra isn't going to swell for past or present Tundra owners. I hope Toyota helps you out in the future.

  • @bigfoote4x4
    @bigfoote4x4 Год назад +17

    Mike, try a different dealership to see if you get the same response. My Tacoma had that cab break light leak that was fully covered under warranty…. But yet that same dealerships in Bend told me otherwise. Took it to another and they fixed it without hesitation and quickly!
    Never been a big fan of the Bend dealership due to this.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Год назад +1

      yep, take off the strut spacer and head to another dealership.

    • @equalizer2233
      @equalizer2233 Год назад

      There is a recall for that leaking 3rd brake light

  • @donwarrington4916
    @donwarrington4916 Год назад +3

    Somebody needs to read their warranty manual that came with the vehicle prior to whining on youtube .
    Here you go boss , clear as day :
    WHAT IS NOT COVERED
    This warranty does not cover damage or
    failures resulting directly from any of
    the following:
    • Fire, accidents or theft
    • Abuse or negligence
    • Misuse - for example, racing
    or overloading
    • Improper repairs
    • Alteration or tampering, including
    installation of non-Genuine
    Toyota Accessories
    • Lack of or improper maintenance,
    including use of fluids and fuel
    other than those specified in the
    Owner’s Manual
    • Installation of parts that are not
    Toyota Genuine Parts
    • Airborne chemicals, tree sap, road
    debris (including stone chips), rail dust,
    salt, hail, floods, wind storms, lightning
    and other environmental conditions
    • Water contamination

  • @N8RTH
    @N8RTH Год назад +15

    It only voids the part(s) associated to your aftermarket modification, not the whole vehicle.

    • @nokizzy4504
      @nokizzy4504 Год назад +8

      His tires are 6 sizes too big on a regular sized 1500 truck, and he’s wondering why his axles are getting worn out quicker 😂

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +1

      Ok, well, everything from the tires all the way back to the engine are associated as well as every component in the front and rear suspension. Basically half the truck. He's running 35" tires that weight probably 2x what the stock tires weight.

    • @lordofreason549
      @lordofreason549 Год назад +1

      @@nokizzy4504 are you saying that a brand new truck should be expected to wear out axles bc of larger tires? If so, you arent very familiar with Toyota. The previous generation could take on all kinds of extreme mods and didn't wear out noticably faster.

    • @nokizzy4504
      @nokizzy4504 Год назад +1

      @@lordofreason549 I believe it. I’m just saying those tires are probably 3-4x heavier than stock. They’re wider and taller, with an aftermarket lift. Who knows, it could be a torsion key lift, which can cause even more wear and tear on Axles and components. The point is don’t run tires that don’t fit your truck. Maybe if this was a 2500 version it would be able to handle it, but who knows…all I know is don’t complain about warranty if you’re gonna put 5x bigger tires on.

  • @lgmisfit10
    @lgmisfit10 Год назад +3

    Hi Mike, it might be that your dealer operates in a different way. I live in SoCal and have lifted my Tacoma previously and never had an issue and I was told the only void would be if I replace items (example: replace shocks) the the issues wouldn’t be covered since I wouldn’t have OEM shocks. But for your dealer to void the whole warranty is insane

  • @rickwahlberg3207
    @rickwahlberg3207 10 месяцев назад +1

    There is a difference between and spacer lift that changes the over length of the strut assembly changing the cv angle, and a collar lift that raises the truck height but doesn't change the overall travel of the strut assembly, it still moves in the factory spec measurement.

  • @feliperomanoff9808
    @feliperomanoff9808 Год назад +2

    Sorry to hear about your issues, I can relate to your disappointment. I t happens to me with the Taco 3rd gen. After 5 decades of been a happy Toyota truck owner I sold the that 2016 Taco. No low end torque, gearing too high, etc. Broke down at 70K (never had a Toyota that need it repairs at that mileage). Toyota need to get a chief engineer for their USA truck division like Yuichiro Obu or Chikuo kubota. Mike Sweers has been a disaster to Toyotas's reputation of QRD.
    Hope you get the issues resolved, good luck

  • @anthonymarinacci4184
    @anthonymarinacci4184 Год назад

    Nice insight!

  • @4WDisLife
    @4WDisLife Год назад +2

    sorry that it happened to you, the cv should not leak if you are not stretching it too much by going offroad. That being said, the moment I started modifying my tundra, I kinda stopped expecting dealership to cover any suspension component failures because they really can’t judge either way who’s responsibility it is for the premature failures. I also don’t think any other companies are any different unless the truck came out of the box prelifted by Toyota (not the dealer).

    • @OSkyFireO
      @OSkyFireO Год назад

      I just checked with my local GM dealer here in Ontario, Canada. Lift your truck, modify the suspension, blah blah blah....100% voided warranty.

  • @miltonblanchard
    @miltonblanchard Год назад +40

    The Toyota lift kit actually has new drive shafts. These aftermarket leveling kits ruin part geometries.

    • @stay_in_adventure
      @stay_in_adventure Год назад +13

      Yup it does. If it's the axle seal leaking, I would just look up the part number on the TRD axle and just buy that to remedy that situation. From the TRD lift kit press release: "It includes tuned Bilstein front and rear shock absorbers with taller TRD coil springs, TRD front lower knuckles, front extended axle-shafts, front stabilizer links, front outer tie rods, front tie rod sleeves, and several other upgraded parts. It’s worth noting that the forged upper control arms are produced by Roush."

    • @benpack03
      @benpack03 Год назад +1

      Bulllll shit.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica Год назад +1

      Yup the OEM kit is very complete. Many parts not found in any aftermarket lift kits.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Год назад +2

      Yup that was my thinking too. A lift or level directly impacts the drive axles. 🤦

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Год назад +2

      @@TobyCostaRica Wow an OEM playing it safe because they don't want to be flooded with lawsuits? Never seen that before.

  • @americanmade422
    @americanmade422 Год назад +1

    I'm sorry you're going through this I've had similar happen to me in the past. What I can say is I've learned not to buy the new models when they come out because of the issues they have

  • @stay_in_adventure
    @stay_in_adventure Год назад +4

    Looking back at your videos I noticed that you install a spacer lift. A spacer lift with IFS Toyota is bound to have issues as you're moving the travel beyond what the front suspension was designed for. Most lifts just move the center of the travel down, reducing up down travel to have a higher center point. But they don't increase down travel. A spacer lift will increase your down travel to where you'll have CV issues.

    • @IBRAKEFORBEDROCK
      @IBRAKEFORBEDROCK 11 месяцев назад

      These trucks likely have bumpstops to keep them from traveling beyond the safe limit. They also have front anti sway bars that also limit the travel in the front IFS

  • @rudynanez4674
    @rudynanez4674 Год назад +3

    I hope they take care of you sounds like you’ve had it though, I asked my dealer and they said it you only void the part associated with the spacer, well good luck to all of us cause now I’m thinking I bought a truck I can’t lift 1 3/4 inch shoo, a 1794 at that.

  • @justfelix30
    @justfelix30 Год назад

    My question is if I wanted an original lift kit would toyota provide that for my highlander??

  • @WyLEE08
    @WyLEE08 Год назад +2

    I also made a video explaining even if Toyota installs the lift kit Toyota will not warranty related issues. I have been down that dirty road with a Polaris razor, the warranty was denied because of a technicality. I now better and that’s why I don’t lift my 22’ Tundra. Thx for the vid.

    • @TheSurfskidude
      @TheSurfskidude Год назад

      Thanks for this info on denying coverage even if Toyota did the lift. I’m looking at another TRD Off-road and was considering the lift. Thanks 🙏

  • @MGMG007
    @MGMG007 Год назад +1

    If you want a lifted truck with warranty, buy it lifted at the dealership or get them to add a lift, you’ll have warranty on the lift and the truck, they might use oem part or the lift shop they partner will use their parts, but its all on warranty if it fails

  • @stay4theride
    @stay4theride Год назад

    What if you had the Toyota dealership install the lift?? Would still void the warranty?

  • @medinadan
    @medinadan Год назад

    Yup ..
    Had my 4runner modified at the dealership to retain my warranty, it was noted in the contract before signing the contract of purchase..

  • @JJ-yu
    @JJ-yu Год назад +1

    I had a CV axle leaking on my 07 FJ. I had a 3" coilover lift and the diff drop spacer. Multiple dealerships denied my warranty because they said it was directly related to the lift kit. I went through the same process of "is the liftkit installed wrong?" and "can you prove that the lift caused the leak?" Eventually I just caved and payed for the repairs, but luckily that was the only issue that came from having the lift over many many years of offroad abuse. I did have to replace my throwout bearing twice in 100K miles (6MT truck) but other than that the things solid as hell.... I guess would also caution those who VALUE the warranty about modifications within the warranty period....

    • @bcgunner9324
      @bcgunner9324 6 месяцев назад

      There is just about no way possible to prove that some small change technically caused the problem. Maybe it did.. maybe it didn't. Maybe it's just a bad coincidence... But if the modification is related to what failed, it won't be covered. There is no proof required to void the warranty, nor would it be possible to prove it. Now, if you changed a light bulb in your turn signal and all of a sudden your transmission had an issue... they wouldn't be able to say that your trans warranty is void due to a new lightbulb. There's no correlation.

  • @NA-eu4yc
    @NA-eu4yc Год назад +1

    I have 2022 TRD PRO and I’m researching whether or not to lift it especially with these little tires that came from the manufacture. Very well said and thank you for sharing. I thought that may void the warranty. But yes you are right especially if the lift is as little as 2 inches. Thank you 🙏🏼

    • @southsideBMP
      @southsideBMP 8 месяцев назад +1

      I lifted my 23’ TRD Pro and all of the warranties are perfect

  • @indy2015
    @indy2015 Год назад

    That’s a really nice looking truck!

  • @franksmythe6969
    @franksmythe6969 Год назад +1

    Tundra owners beware. I had a conversation with my dealership about installing the TRD lift kit. They will warranty the dealer installed parts but will void your powertrain warranty if you put any Tire on larger than OEM. Which makes installing a lift kit completely useless.

  • @jerrykite9318
    @jerrykite9318 Год назад

    Having a 2022 1794 coming I downloaded the manuals as I usually do to get a head start on learning the vehicle or whatever purchase I need to get knowledge on. Numerous times through the manuals the note that if you lift the vehicle and do not use the Tundra lift it will void the warranty, it pays to read the manuals and warrantee info.

  • @TheArozconpollo
    @TheArozconpollo Год назад +1

    A dealer that installs aftermarket parts will also warranty them, that's a consideration while you are under OEM warranty. They don't have an easy argument when the lift kit they provided causes problems in the drive train geometry.

  • @classicdisaster3766
    @classicdisaster3766 Год назад +1

    I had Toyota install my leveling kit as my dealer has an entire department for truck upgrades. They guaranteed the work and I have in writing that the leveling kit will NOT void my warranty. Fingers crossed!

    • @timothyjones1906
      @timothyjones1906 5 месяцев назад

      Give me the name of your dealer! Can’t get my dealership to tell me anything about dealership approved lift system. Service manger has told me that if I don’t put the same tires that the truck came with new , that it would void everything on the truck !!!! Everything!!!!! Then I talked to mechanics that work for Toyota that say it won’t void the warranty if Toyota dealership does the work . But dealership says it doesn’t offer any type of lift kit . But then you see lift kits offered by Toyota that are Toyota certified parts!!! Toyota needs to get their act together and solve this problem!!!! Love Toyota products, but really getting pissed about the run around by Toyota dealership!!!!!!

  • @sonytvdufrene5516
    @sonytvdufrene5516 Год назад +4

    Toyota has been shitting the bed quite a bit with the new Tundra. I cancelled my order for a Platinum and bought a RAM Longhorn Off-road instead. I'm getting 22MPG if I keep it under 65mph and I have tow hooks and 4WDAuto and metal skid plates instead that cheap plastic stuff. I've owned 5 Toyota's, but doubt I'll ever get another one.

    • @ElJefe360
      @ElJefe360 Месяц назад

      Yeah but your RAM will break at the 55K for sure. Those things don't last

  • @stevevice9863
    @stevevice9863 Год назад +1

    You might want to install a front differential drop kit. They are less than $40.00, (JEGS should have them), and pretty simple to install. Certainly could be done by anyone that is a little bit handy....(plenty of you tube videos out there)....no special tools needed. The kit lowers the diff a little over an inch and gets the angle of the front axels closer to stock. The CV joints should last a little longer too.
    I did this on my 4Runner and it eliminated a slight vibration at 60mph after I installed the 2" lift.

    • @lifescansdarkly
      @lifescansdarkly Год назад +2

      Apparantly diff drops are very difficult on the new generation (22+) Tundras. Will wait to see what the aftermarket comes up with, but 2" is still a pretty small lift.

  • @i_run_far1132
    @i_run_far1132 Год назад

    I lifted my 4Runner and within 50 miles, the axles puked everywhere. Didn’t even think about going to the dealer, I just fixed the axles.

  • @ElJefe360
    @ElJefe360 Месяц назад

    Sorry to hear that Mate!!

  • @bedlamfirm3285
    @bedlamfirm3285 Год назад

    I agree with you. It’s a love hate relationship. I’ve already been denied on a defect with my multimedia screen. Secondly, my CarPlay has stopped connecting wirelessly and dealer has no clue and has denied they can do anything and I’m just going to have to live with ‘tethering’ for now. What’s the point of that option. It doesn’t even connect just to use phone without having to use a cable. Third issue is the window seal…they say it’s a known problem but no fix yet. Sometimes I regret getting rid of my 2018 5.7 Tundra to get this new fully redesigned which seems like issues keep popping up and it’s only been 5 months.

  • @giecy1977
    @giecy1977 Год назад

    I have 2022 tundra and I noticed that my fuel gauge shows wrong readings like foe example I had 3/4 of fuel and gauge was showing less Tham 1/4! Today I knew I had 3/4, gauge shows full... Do you guys have this kind of issues? Also I noticed that when transmission is cold first gear is jerky. Its even more noticeable when towing... Any thoughts?

    • @FiredogKC
      @FiredogKC Год назад

      My '22 Tundra has that fuel guage issue. Gonna take it in to have them look at it.

  • @jason7231
    @jason7231 Год назад +3

    65k truck, 200 dollar lift, yea makes alot of sense.

  • @peterhoma6385
    @peterhoma6385 Год назад

    I’m approaching 30,000 miles on my Tacoma TRD ORDC 4x4 that I bought brand new and installed a 1.5 inch lift with fox by pass shocks on all 4 corners and let me tell you I beat the crap out of it off road and not a single issue, runs I think better than day 1 when in bought it brand new

  • @rant-n-rave7816
    @rant-n-rave7816 Год назад

    Well, IF I ever get my Tundra TRD Pro back from being towed into the dealer with 286 miles, I can say I agree. I’m waiting over a week now to get it back! I will not be putting on the Westcott lift now after watching this, THAT’S for sure!

  • @duncanpage1556
    @duncanpage1556 Год назад

    Good to know lnfo ! I will keep my 2019 tunny.. WAY to many issues with the 2022

  • @hmglor
    @hmglor Год назад

    Remind me of my 1st gen tundra.. small little lift cause tons of issue due to a little suspension geometry tweaks..

  • @luisbarraza9709
    @luisbarraza9709 Год назад

    How long is the warranty? I guess I would wait till after warranty period is over to lift.

  • @makanhp4298
    @makanhp4298 Год назад +2

    John Elway's Crown Toyota told me that I can lift my truck up to 2” and it won’t void the warranty.

  • @toddmctavish2940
    @toddmctavish2940 Год назад +5

    These new Tundras, excluding the Pro, are too low and honestly have a 2WD look. They are going to loose a pile of sales if you can't even put a leveling kit on one without voiding a warranty.

  • @rob495
    @rob495 Год назад

    Nice meeting you the other day and talking to you about my Tundra. I hope you can get the help you deserve. Kendall has been a pain to deal with.

    • @DrivenCompanion
      @DrivenCompanion  Год назад +1

      Nice running into you as well. Let’s hope a new Toyota dealer opens in Redmond someday 😆

    • @wOhtest
      @wOhtest Год назад

      @@DrivenCompanion I will point my finger on Jim Nortom Toyota at Tulsa, OK - Same thing. Worst Dealership I ever experienced.

  • @pjwtacmed
    @pjwtacmed Год назад

    So what about the newly released Toyota brand TRD lift kit? I believe it is a 2.5 or 3” lift sold and installed by Toyota. Are they going to sell us something that negates the warranty? My dealer says the warranty will be honored if the lift is less than 3”. Seems like this issue varies depending on which dealer you talk to.

  • @BHUFF
    @BHUFF Год назад

    Why i had a toyota trd lift kit installed when the vehicle was purchased, under warranty

  • @jimsonaranda2512
    @jimsonaranda2512 Год назад

    i think it depends if related to modifications only..

  • @tv-ke4lx
    @tv-ke4lx Год назад +3

    Too funny
    Others have said it
    Only voids the parts affected
    Same for every brand

  • @ironmaiden8625
    @ironmaiden8625 Год назад

    Thanks again for your insight and experience with this new truck. Toyota is flailing in their response to lack of quality.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Год назад

      Toyota didn't put spacers on his truck...

  • @davida7284
    @davida7284 Месяц назад

    The only parts voided are the ones replaced in the lift. The lift shop better have a good warranty for their parts and install.

  • @WTrut
    @WTrut Год назад

    I just added a 1.75 leveling kit with 35's a nd 1/4 wheel spacer no problems yet. In the event of a problem I sure hope their's no problem with my warranty . I'll keep all informed.

    • @bransull
      @bransull 6 месяцев назад

      Hows it going? Any issues? Also, was this on a 2022 Tundra?

  • @devilshaircut9
    @devilshaircut9 Год назад +1

    Toyota really has bottomed out their servicing, I stopped buying 4Runners after 10 years of Toyota Love because of a seriously shady service dept at Longo Toyota in LA. A $99 "tune up" transitioned into a $800 bill where none of the suspect parts were returned as my written request on the work order specified. Contacting Toyota Regionals and then Toyota Nationals yielded a truly "we don't care, go back to dealer" attitude. Bad customer service has consequences and I will never buy another Toyota, Scion, or Lexus product. So strange they would shaft me like this because I was a die-hard, "buy only Toyota" fan until this experience.

  • @chrismelton67
    @chrismelton67 Год назад

    OUCH! I've had some minor issues with my 2022 Tundra but nothing like this. Have you heard of anyone else having problems with lifts? Still enjoying mine but I have a short list of issues that I'll have the dealer address when I go in for the 10K service. Hope Toyota steps up and tries to figure this out instead of giving you the Heisman.

  • @2aultra
    @2aultra Год назад

    There's people who have Tacoma's with factory lift kits So they could put 285 on their truck does that mean Is there warranty is void

  • @matt99199
    @matt99199 Год назад +1

    I like how he took down the video of him lifting the front as if that will some how help

  • @jefftravis384
    @jefftravis384 Год назад

    Well buddy sounds like you need to sell it and go get another brand. Goodluck. I do appreciate your videos and honesty. I love my 22 tundra, I'll take this twin turbo over a v8 any day, you and I both know first year model will have issue's, warranty part of this story is bs. They need to prove what part caused the failer.
    Also, if these axles can't take running 35s then they need to find a new supplier.
    Now, I can share some stories from the big 3 truck companies but I'm sure you are aware of their own issue's.
    I hope you fight them on the warranty.
    Best of luck and keep us posted.

  • @masejames4906
    @masejames4906 Год назад

    I would always recommend that a Toyota dealer install the major modifications during the factory warranty period.

  • @josegarza8362
    @josegarza8362 Год назад

    My dealer said it covered from 3” to 6” lift as long as you don’t cut into the frame or modify the frame

  • @tonyjoudi466
    @tonyjoudi466 Год назад

    Every dealership is different because mine said as long as it’s 3 inches you good 😊

  • @stevelikesrhino
    @stevelikesrhino Год назад +6

    Sadly, it's not something else that broke, it's CV axles leaking. That's like the first thing that a lift kit alters, no matter how negligible it is. Dunno why people are saying Magnuson Moss Act contradict that. When you do the mod, you should have been ready for it. Bite the bullet, fix it at your cost.

  • @yugbe
    @yugbe Год назад

    Whats messed up about this is when I purchased my Tundra, I ask the mechanic if leveling the truck would void the warrantee and was told no.

  • @mattstrandberg8664
    @mattstrandberg8664 Год назад

    What about a 3.5” right country lift? 35’s Void warranty? What do you guys think?

    • @davidromero6335
      @davidromero6335 Год назад

      The Rough Country name in and of itself should be a warranty denier lol, but in all seriousness that is a lot of angle on the cv shafts. Definitely need to drop the front diff to help off set some of those angles.

  • @joelong8181
    @joelong8181 9 месяцев назад

    Hey, that’s because that problem was a direct result of the lift because if you have too much drop those axles and pop out. Normally as long as it’s a reasonable list if there’s some issue with the engine or something like that, they won’t say anything and they’ll just cover it.

  • @95tman
    @95tman Год назад +1

    Thats a fairly harsh, but honest assessment. Im interested to see what you end up doing with the truck

    • @bamafencer12
      @bamafencer12 Год назад

      A new ride shouldn't be leaking oil...

  • @williamtucker5855
    @williamtucker5855 Год назад +5

    How does adding a 2 inch leveling kit cause a Oil leak I’m Confused

    • @DrewPeabawls
      @DrewPeabawls Год назад

      Doesn’t look like the dealer said that. Just that the warranty is void after the mod.

    • @stevevice9863
      @stevevice9863 Год назад +2

      The oil is coming from the axel where the CV joints connect to it...not the engine. Lifting the suspension changes the angle of the front axel shafts and can put stress on the CV joints and cause premature wear.

    • @williamtucker5855
      @williamtucker5855 Год назад

      @@stevevice9863 Thanks! I got it I didn’t know that I just assumed it was coming from the engine!

  • @simonkaravai3424
    @simonkaravai3424 Месяц назад

    Crazy stuff, thank you for sharing info.
    I'm about to put 35 s tires on truck plus leveling kit. No thank you

  • @IcatchTuna
    @IcatchTuna Год назад

    Just a thought for about 1600 you can get a warranty through a 3rd party that covers lifted trucks for over 100k

  • @jeremyhall4440
    @jeremyhall4440 Год назад

    I can't even believe it totally unacceptable! I was going to do the same thing as you and keep the stock tires and ribs for pulling a trailer but I guess not anymore! I even bought an extended warranty from Toyota because of the all new drivetrain. I wonder if they are being overly paranoid because they are unsure of what will break and what won't?

  • @jimh2061
    @jimh2061 Год назад +3

    This is why I bought a 2022 4runner. It has the 4.0 v6 that is a great engine and no turbos to worry about. Not the fastest but reliable.

    • @AA-mk4pu
      @AA-mk4pu Год назад +1

      100%!! I’d take a ‘22-23 4Runner over anything in Toyotas line up.

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Год назад

      Yes, the 4R is a great truck. The Taco and Tundra are duds. I hope they don’t ruin the 4Runner in 24.

  • @NorthPaddle
    @NorthPaddle Год назад

    Kendall in Anchorage had my friend’s ‘22 Tundra for 72 days. The maintenance department has had it longer than he has. I’m starting to wonder what happened to the QDR that Toyota used to preach.

  • @carrow2250
    @carrow2250 9 месяцев назад

    Just bought a Cornfed 1.5” x 1” leveling kit. I hope I don’t have the same problems. Seems like there’s tons of Tundra owners in the forums talking that get leveling kits and don’t have problems (yet?)

  • @Minjoeman
    @Minjoeman 7 месяцев назад

    I feel for the issue you are going through. That must be a tuff one to deal with. So many people lift these trucks and this is the first I have heard of a failure. Is this just tuff luck and rare to happen? I understand the voiding of the warranty was the issue here but how often are people seeing mechanical failures with a lift?

  • @NorthernEXpeditions
    @NorthernEXpeditions Год назад +17

    Depending on what type of spacer you have up front, you might be exceeding the limits of the cv axles at full droop, depends on whether or not the ball joints limit down travel or the cv axle. I'm sure someone can answer that on here.

    • @gr8fasushi
      @gr8fasushi Год назад +5

      The TRD Pro uses the same axle and it has a factory 2" lift as far as I'm aware.

    • @swayback100
      @swayback100 11 месяцев назад

      @@gr8fasushi But does the pro have a differential drop kit installed?

  • @edwardpeters4700
    @edwardpeters4700 Год назад +1

    I suspect dealership warranty claims being accepted for this type of issue will be variable. As for the voiding of warranty for other issues, that should only happen if the issue is attributable to modifications made.
    In the end, spacer lifts are less than ideal. Sucks you're having issues so early in your ownership experience regardless.

  • @Toby_Flenderson_1982
    @Toby_Flenderson_1982 Год назад +1

    Thank you for posting honest information. I'm pretty frustrated by all the issues the Tundra has been having. Would you ever consider trading it for something else? I think you did the right thing buying the Tundra for your channel, but I don't think buying a brand new model is ever a good idea for the average buyer. Thank you for the great videos.

    • @DrivenCompanion
      @DrivenCompanion  Год назад

      In general I still think the new Tundra is a great truck and I agree buying new isn't necessarily the best idea but its also more necessary if you want to be relevant on RUclips and provide useful information to viewers.

    • @PHILLIPS8822
      @PHILLIPS8822 Год назад

      Love the new Tundra but if I'm in the market for one I would wait until 2026 to be honest. By then all the issues will be dissolved

  • @minrathejunglist
    @minrathejunglist Год назад +1

    I recommend not taking this guy's word for it. It sounds like he's dealing with a shady dealership. This sounds personal lol

  • @marcus3jankowski
    @marcus3jankowski Год назад

    So would this include a leveling kit? Man, the Toyota dealership were suggesting that I do this. It’s almost like they got me to go down the wrong road to void my warranty.

  • @harrisonmcdowall2794
    @harrisonmcdowall2794 Год назад +1

    I'm sorry but if you mod, you pay to play. That goes for any brand. The warranty spells out what is acceptable and what isn't.

  • @stratolestele7611
    @stratolestele7611 Год назад

    Edit - I meant to add that here in Texas at my dealership (awesome one), I bought my '19 1794 new and before having my 2" spacer installed, I asked my service advisor about it and he warranty and he laughed and said "No! We'll even install it for you! We install them all the time."
    Same dealership that makes you pay for your oil and filters under Toyota Care? Wow, dealership of the year!

    • @DrivenCompanion
      @DrivenCompanion  Год назад

      Yep one and the same. Glad you have a better dealership to work with!

  • @TimtheToolman1966
    @TimtheToolman1966 Год назад

    When Toyota was designing the Gen 3, they listened carefully to their current owners and focus groups. Far too many voiced the desire for features, technology and engineering changes to make the new model more updated, refined and “competitive” with the big three. Mission accomplished.

    • @lifescansdarkly
      @lifescansdarkly Год назад

      Yeah we forget that most truck owners are 70-year-old dudes living in the midwest. As much as we would love to see more off-road capability out of our rigs, the average buyer is using it to haul grandkids and staying home when it snows.

  • @bcgunner9324
    @bcgunner9324 6 месяцев назад

    This has been par for the course for just about any car or truck, any manufacturer, going back 30 years. If you modify the stereo, your stereo warranty is gone. If you modify the suspension, the suspension warranty (and most things connected TO the suspension) is void, too. If you modify the engine, your engine warranty is void. This is normal. Do this stuff after your warranty is gone. Just because Toyota might display a heavily modified vehicle at a car show, doesn't mean you're free to do the same thing without consequences. The odds are that the leveling kit had nothing to do with the failure... but because the failure occurred on something related to the suspension, you're now on the hook. That is the risk of performing the modification.

  • @sommguy1792
    @sommguy1792 3 месяца назад

    The toyota dealer near me told me that swapping out yoir suspension and adding 2 larger tire sizes and it doesn't void the warranty u less there is a failure caused by the after market parts or installation.
    Your dealer was burning you. They went out of their way to find an excuse.

  • @LePeterK123
    @LePeterK123 7 месяцев назад

    Moral of the story, install the leveling kit at a third party, take the lift kit off before you back to Toyota lmao 😅

  • @JustNTimeGames
    @JustNTimeGames 6 месяцев назад

    I asked my dealer several times before buying my 24 Limited TRD OR if lifting it would void the warranty and they told me no..... haven't done it yet, but want to. Now I'm worried haha.

  • @jasoncrymes9608
    @jasoncrymes9608 Год назад

    And here I was thinking a new Tundra would be my escape from a 2018 GMC Sierra that I’ve had nothing but expensive problems with. Its disappointing that Toyota has launched this truck with so many issues. I feel confident they will get them straightened out so maybe I’ll just hold out for the 2024 Tundra where all the bugs are worked out.

  • @dezow5674
    @dezow5674 Год назад

    My Tacoma came lifted from the dealership with a 3 inch and 33inch tires

  • @kyleottosen1021
    @kyleottosen1021 Год назад +1

    Well I mean CV axles are directly effected by lifts. So makes sense. If it was an oil leak it wouldn’t have been effected

  • @TheZiggZaggShow
    @TheZiggZaggShow Год назад +8

    I'm thinking it's a dealership issue. My truck came with Toyota factory 2" level and bigger tires (275 65 20) and all of mine is covered under factory warranty (In writing). I don't have any leaks, but they did use whatever parts Toyota has for that, I'm assuming. Hope it gets better for you man

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica Год назад +1

      If you have the TRD oem lift you have a lot more parts he doesn’t have. The OEM kid extends the axles, brake lines, tie rods, etc for a 2.6” lift. A proper lift. He just did spacers and who knows what the shop did when installing it.

    • @TheZiggZaggShow
      @TheZiggZaggShow Год назад

      @@TobyCostaRica Ok..Gotcha.

  • @equalizer2233
    @equalizer2233 Год назад

    Usually better to speak to the actual Service Manager when there is a problem rather than an advisor. Advisors can be sketchy depending on who you deal with.

  • @carlossanchezjr1287
    @carlossanchezjr1287 Год назад +2

    Sounds like the dealer is no good. I would go to a different dealer i have lifted many Toyotas and never had a problem.

  • @SalPilotMD
    @SalPilotMD Год назад

    This is especially frustrating considering that their OEM TRD 3" lift kit does NOT fit '22 Tundra's with the AVS in the rear. So if I find a third-party kit that DOES fit the AVS, I void the warranty?? Only if that mod is the CAUSE of a failure.

  • @Sacapuntas69
    @Sacapuntas69 Год назад

    I think your last words sums up the Tundra.

  • @evergreenoffroadoverland
    @evergreenoffroadoverland Год назад +12

    Sad to hear about the oil leak, and ultimately the dealer's response to the leak. What is the ultimate resolution to your issue?

    • @joecharmley
      @joecharmley Год назад +4

      Get it fixed . It’s his fault

  • @smeefamily54
    @smeefamily54 11 месяцев назад

    I am having the box storage units installed by Toyota because you have to take the taillights out to install the units. I did not want to void my electrical warranty just for that reason. When you spend 90 grand on a vehicle you do not want any excuse to have your warranty voided.