Fujifilm Digital Teleconverter (EVERYTHING You Need To Know!)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Is Fujifilm's Digital Teleconverter worth using, or is it any good? We discuss everything you need to know about how the Digital Teleconverter works, image resolution restrictions, a problem to watch out for, image quality, digital teleconverter vs. post-production cropping, and more!
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00:00 - Opening
00:15 - Welcome
00:32 - What If Your Lens Focal Length Isn’t Long Enough?
01:50 - Assign Digital Teleconverter to a Custom Button
02:16 - Restrictions Using Digital Teleconverter
02:41 - Digital Vs. Optical Teleconverters
03:49 - How Fujifilm Digital Teleconverter Works
04:39 - Image Resolution Restrictions for JPEG Files
05:45 - Digital Teleconverter - Be Careful Not To Do THIS!
06:56 - Image Quality: Digital Teleconverter Vs. Post Production Cropping
11:10 - Worth It To Use Digital Teleconverter?
12:35 - Conclusion and Recommendation
12:56 - Goodbye and Outro
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If I had you as teacher for anything, I would be now working for the NASA. You explain things so great.
Wow! Thank you so much Antonio!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
To be fair, students who came from places like rural India work for NASA or run companies like Google and Microsoft.
'THE' NASA? just NASA bro
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I use the 2.0 DTC all the time to set my focus point right where I need when photographing small birds, insects, flowers, etc. it makes a HUGE difference, much more easier to focus on a bug’s eye because it magnifies the EVF. I get a nice jpeg but a full size raw file for later use. I find it to be a killer feature.
Great tip
You can also use the focus check option, it does effectively the same but without having to sacrifice uncropped jpegs. If that's what you'd prefer anyway.
why dont you use the focus check which is 10X?
Ohhhhhhh! That's a point that makes sense.
@@chrisbartlett8146 because I like getting my cropped jpeg. I mostly use jpegs, these days I rarely edit because film recipes got me. I’m just addicted to the convenience of not having to edit before I upload to social media.
I can see this being super useful for "casual" wildlife shooting. Super happy to hear that the RAW file is kept in full resolution so there is no real detriment except taking up marginally more memory. Thanks again for the great video!
Been watching your videos for several years now. Thanks for all you do Chris. Your videos are always insightful, thorough, enthusiastic, warm and often funny. Fabulous work!
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This is my first post -EVER- to any RUclips Channel! I was just watching your recent post, “Fujifilm Digital Teleconverter.” I found it most helpful and was sad to see that some of the comments suggested the topic did not merit more than a few minutes. While everyone has an opinion, I was most interested in the teleconverter function and found that your input was extremely helpful and addressed many of my questions. I appreciated how thorough you were. Your RUclips channel has been most helpful! I am grateful that you recognize people who love photography may not know as much as others or value different aspects of the art. Although I “know” that the digital teleconverter may be little more than an in-camera crop, your attention to details made me aware of why (or why not) this feature may be helpful. At one point I wondered if the lenses you used were the "suggested" ones by Fuji that were capable of resolving the X-T5's resolution -I checked and saw that the 16-55 was on the list -thank you for using a variety of lenses! I am considering buying a Fujifilm camera and your videos are very helpful!
Great video. Thorough, detailed and well explained. You are the best for explaining complex subjects. Thanks
Thank you very much for digging into this digital teleconverter to tell us how it works! Very helpful explanation!
One thing I don't recall you mentioning... You have to shoot with the digital teleconverter on before you take the pic. You can't apply it after the fact. But if you do shoot with the digital teleconverter on in raw+Jpg, you can go into the q Menu during image playback and turn off the digital teleconverter and reprocess a new jpg at the original 0x focal length. Great video Chris. These types of videos are my favorite.
Never clicked an alert so quick. Looking forward to your videos every week!
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Something I needed to know explained very well. Great work. Thanks.
Such a great video! Explains things so well. I’ll remember this if I get the XT5!
Beautiful video, you are among the few, if not the only one, who has examined this function, in Italy and Europe no one has talked about it (or I have not seen it :-D ). I discovered it by chance and I like the idea of being able to double the location of the lens with prime lenses that distort the image less. I assigned the View mode button, which I never use, to this digital zoom. Thank you for your work!
Wowee, I just happened to be looking for info on the teleconverter and you've made the perfect video 11 minutes ago.
Many thanks for your very interesting tests.
Thanks, Chris! I never fully understood what this setting meant and how it worked. And I never realized the info on downsizing the file size utilizing this option.
I like the Sports Finder mode. Its a 29% crop of both RAW and JPEG. You can see subjects before they enter the frame. Its great for composition with a constantly changing scene, sides, top and bottom. Since it is a less severe crop, I don't really notice a loss of quality. My 18mm crops to 23mm"ish". It does not work with electronic shutter.
I was shooting birds with a 18-300mm lens on my X-T5, but I was still too far away to get the close-up pictures I wanted. Thanks to your video, I was able to turn on the 2x Digital Teleconverter and got some great shots of Violent-Green Swallows that had just arrived to start nesting in my area. Thanks very much for this information. 🙂
Always looking forward to your videos 🙌🏼 fellow xt4 user
I find that using the digital teleconverter sometimes helps the autofocus detection algorithm for animals for example when the subject is very small in the frame. I also use this function for birding and bird identification.
Telescope mode!
I always use the focus check mode on my old cameras for this, but being able to engage it indefinitely and have the rest of the UI stay on view seems extremely useful!
I found that there is no focus assist (focus peak highlight) in MF Mode with the digital teleconverter is on.
But all in all this is a useful feature just like the apsc crop mode on a FF camera. With the x1.4 we got a 20MP picture which is still pretty good to work with. The clarity and resolution are still gorgeous especially with those newer optimised lens.
Thanks Chris. I'll give it a try.
i have the xt5 with 50-140 and 1.4 teleconverter, and have used the digital tele conv to help compose shots that I know I am too far away to take and will have to crop in post anyhow, so it is a great tool from the composition point of view, and 10mp images will still have zero issues for enlarging and sharing on social media. I find it a very useful feature.
I was wishing for this feature once the 40MP sensor was announced. It just makes sense. It's really useful on the x100v. But I have to say for some reason the images just don't come out as good with the x-t5 as the x100v, even with very good lenses. And I can tell in camera, without pixel peeping. I had no idea it was reducing the quality to S or M but it makes sense.
Thank you very helpful
Actually it’s visible on the phone! Thank you for another great tutorial!
Interesting how in the past Fujifilm did offer actual digital teleconverter technology in an earlier camera (the X70) which used in-camera interpolation (thus not losing on resolution) and was actually on par with Photoshop's Super Resolution feature, instead of a simple crop mode on its latest and greatest processor 🤔
this is something i liked having on my a7r3 that i miss having moved away from fullframe. just being able to go apsc mode and getting a 1.5x crop was nice
I've primarily been using the digital teleconverter to help nail focus or for bird ids
thank you for this very clear explanation as always. The main benefit of the digital zoom for me is as a focusing aid. I shoot small birds and other wildlife with an X-H2 with either the xf150-600 or xf70300mm with 1.4xTC when traveling. RAW + Jpeg L but only process the RAW and have the jpeg as backup. Distant subjects in busy backgrounds often struggle with AF but I find the digital zoom often improves the speed and accuracy. I see it as a bit of a workaround until such time, fingers crossed an improved firmware is released.
This is so helpful for people who use manual lenses!
I use this function as a triple check for my focus, specially on astro and landscape shooting. That helps me to check if what I'm using as a reference to get the desired focus, is indeed focused. So I know that I'm ok or it is acceptably ok.
I would be very interested seeing someone using this with AI upscale programs, since the resolution loss is low enough that I think an AI might be able to effectively fill in the gaps.
Awesome idea for that spare C mode!
3:45 the way he took off the lens was so slick
Hi, I was using the 2x digital today, one thing you missed was that if the image appears larger, due to the crop, then it’s much easier and more accurate to focus on it.
He says it quickly at the end, but I’m inclined to agree that it would be good to do a longer demonstration of this effect as an ergonomic choice whole shooting. 😊
i found this super useful and worth the loss in 'resolution'. compared to cropping in post, with the digital tele, the metering and autofocus is even more pinpoint
I love to use it for street photography with super sharp 33mm lens. Mapped to a function key this is an awesome feature. In camera converter helps with composing and AF.
I own an xh2 but I’m also a Hasselblad x user. On the X series, when you use crop modes, the crop preset previewed while shooting is already applied when you open the raw file in Lightroom.
The one usecase i can think of is if I need to see some of the detail further away at location. For example imagine you know you are going to have to crop it up later, now you can frame the image, and see the details that in preview a bit colser up, (while not reducing the raw quality until you can perfectly crop it later.). The fact that its not applied to the raw seems like a huge bonus, and not saving a jpeg i actually think is fine too, since maybe it was just for the utility of a closer preview on every shot automatically in the viewfinder.
Thanks for clarifying. Though I don't see much point when I could just crop and clean the image up a touch.
The X-H2 does allow you to zoom for video - just not on the X-T5. I think the user experience is also better on the X-H2 for zooming. However, I considered I would rarely use it and sort things out in post.
That’s good news. I was wondering when Fuji would do this for video as Sony has been doing it for years. I guess if you’re shouting HD, if you don’t zoom past those dimensions, nothing is lost.
@@GarretGrayCamera Hmm - zoom always comes at a cost. There is no magic here really. You can't ever "make up" resolution with digital zoom. So I take wider and zoom in post. In fact it becomes more interesting - if you take wider, you have to pan less physically, and if you use something like FCPX in post the pan becomes way smother and irons out jerks and judders. From my experience that happens on all camera brands.
Hi Chris, fully agree with your concerns and…” doubts” about this option… for me is completely useless, since I only shoot in RAW.
Would you happen to know what I didn't see on your channel? Fujifilm Fujinon 150-600mm and teleconvertes 1.4 and 2 :) With some moon photography etc. One thing you should be proud of is that I don't get sleepy while I am listening and watching your videos :) Very educative! :)
Great video -- very informative. I esp liked the comparison at the end. For myself, I really cant see ever using the digital zoom feature. Instead I'd crop in pp, sharpening/cleaning with Topaz AI if necessary
Topaz is a great solution for that!
Man, I was really excited for this feature because it would have been extremely helpful for my moon and SPACE photography, but it seems like it just turned out to be doo doo!
I can see a use for this with the 100-400 lens for example. when you are shooting in low light (which is most wildlife photos in the UK or in a forest/jungle environment) using the teleconverters reduces autofocus speed with either the 1.4x or 2x in my opinion. and losing a few stops of lights is never good when ISO is already being pushed hard.
In my limited testing shooting without the TC and cropping in post with X-T5 produces adequate results with smaller birds etc. So being able to shoot with the Digital TC to get a "Preview" Jpeg that you can see easier through the viewfinder gives you a good idea if you have got the shot before you get home from your trip
I would love to see a comparison of the physical and digital teleconverters. It strikes me that the physical ones were useful and needed on 26mp cameras, but with a 40mp sensor, the detail will be there either way, depending on the lens and atmospheric conditions.
Great video Chris! I discovered this feature recently and found similar results to you. One excellent point you make is regarding background differences. Very cool. I also tried a traditional 2x converter and boy was that a drag! The quality really diminishes and 2.8 went to 5.6 max aperture, shooting with the 50-140. So if you have a relatively slow lens to begin with the optical 2x converter is basically useless.
Hey Pete!! Great to know thanks! Yeah, I didn't get the traditional converter as I'm low on $$$ at the moment, LOL, but I'm hearing that f/5.6 is kinda a drag on the 50-140. It's better than nothing if you need the shot, but you'd definitely have to raise ISO for sure to keep that SS fast enough to handle that lens. Cheers! 👍
@@pal2tech Yep. I might do a vid on it but I didn't get much with it and no b roll haha. It was not for me.
@@PeteCocoPhoto did you make that video? I’d love to see a direct pixel peeping comparison of digital v physical teleconverters!
I see another commentor claims the feature is available for video, which I hope it would be, because this feature allow the use of lenses designed for smaller sensors such as micro 4/3. In particular, professional broadcast cinema cameras have standardized on smaller sensors and there are many great quality parfocal zoom lenses out there on the used market. Without this feature you will see a heavy vignetting with these B4 mount lenses.
Another brilliant educational video.
I've not used the digital teleconverter yet on my X-H2, however used on occasion the sports-finder, when caught short with my XF 23mm F/1.4 (MK1) lens and found the resulting ages very satisfactory.
Further more, despite the excellent EV, as an eye glass wearer I find the sports-finder very helpful in framing particularly a moving subject.
In your opinion are the results between the 1.4 digital converter, & the 1.5 sports finder comparable?
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Sometimes, I don't take pictures and just use my camera as a telescope. The TC has been super handy in that regard :D
I use it a lot on my 16mm to work as I would use a 23mm. Because 16mm is too wide for me sometimes. Lightroom mobile remembers the digital crop and applies it by default afaik on raws. Since having a 40 Mpx sensor the loss is not so heavy and I have 2 lenses on 1 on the jpegs.
The digital tele converter is made for prime lenses I believe. On my Fuji XF10 it works wonders! The camera has a 28mm equivalent prime lens and when using the converter to 35mm or 50mm the resolution stays the same 24MP and it is noticeably sharper than cropping the 28mm footage. I even think the build in processor corrects lens distortion differently on the converter. So it's not just a crop. However, for obvious reasons as you say, the background blur won't change. But on a prime lens you have no choice anyways.
Echoes of the same feature in the X100-F, though obviously only for that model's fixed focus lens when the two settings are labelled as '50' and '70'. My observations on the use and limitations are similar to Chris's.
Hi Chris, thanks and congratulations! Excuse my Google Translator English... I hope you understand... This function is very interesting, but the fact that it is only active on jpg is a limitation! It would be nice if it could also be active in raw and that in post-production software the crop made in the camera is visible but reversible. With several machines it is possible to do this (for example Panasonic S1). This would make working in pp on raw faster, without having to use the cutter to make the cut made during shooting with 1.4x or 2x!
I'm a wedding photographer, and this feature would be useful on raw! NB. The "sport viewfinder" mode applies the 1.29x crop on both jpg and raw! I would like 1.4x and 2x cropping in raw, visible in LR but reversible... It would be nice to ask Fuji to do it with a new firmware! A thousand thanks! Best regards
The digital zoom is actually more use in movie mode (XH2) as you can smoothly zoom in and out while doing the video. I use a normal teleconverter for stills.
In RAW-only mode, there is metadata added to the RAW file providing the crop area. This can be readily seen in the preview mode. What may be missing is that your image editor is not reading and using this metadata to crop the photo for you automatically.
Editor is ready to do it for Leica Q. Why not for Fuji ?
Wow really? I wonder if we can somehow get Lightroom to auto process it? Or flag them so we know and can apply a quick preset that replicates the crop 🤔🤔🤔
Can’t wait to get my x-t5 and try this out!
(Fuji should work with LR to get this working automatically, of course)
Hi do you have a video for best photo still settings for fujifilm x . Same question for best buttons settings.?
9:24 yes I can see the difference watching this on my phone. I thought it was because I watched it in 4k so I switched to 1080p and was still able to see the difference.
Hello! Could you be able to make a video on how to tether Fujifilm with iPad or any monitor? I’ve been searching but I can’t find any information. It would help us big time in photo shoot. Thank you much! 🙏🏼
The DTC is an easy way to create smaller JPG files, when shooting just JPG and for situations where 40mp is overkill. It's a bit like these 60mp cameras (e.g. Leica) that allow shooting at lower resolutions, but then by cropping instead of pixel binning. This cropping can be compensated for by zooming to a wider angle when using a zoom lens.
I use it in video mode, in 4K HQ you can zoom digitally 👍🏻
10:55 you have shown that the crop affects not only the angle of view but the range of sharpness as well. If you stop down the longer focal length by the digital crop factor, you should get the same look in terms of angle of view and bokeh.
I think in the latter case you take a hit due to less light and therefore higher ISO but you have more resolution. I assume with heavy noise reduction and downscaling to the same resolution of the digitally cropped image, both look alike in terms of sharpness and noise again.
Watching a Pal2Tech video on a phone, who does that???😁 I am using my pc with a 32" color corrected dell monitor, I want all the details.
Thanks for sharing another informative and entertaining video.
Hahaha it's funny, I edit in that similar setup (color corrected, etc.) but then sometimes switch over to older phone just to see what it looks like. Incredible the difference of experience!
@@pal2tech Yes, video on the phone is emergency only😂🤣😂🤣
That video was way better than the meager text in the manual. Did you happen to compare the actual 1.4 or 2.0 TC to the digital TC and a cropped full raw file to the digital TC jpeg?
Not for this video. Only because I don't have the actual 1.4 or 2.0 unit -- just didn't have the $$$ to get for the video. If enough people ask about it, maybe it would be worth the investment. 👍
maybe helpful for macro, because you want more dof. you could just crop in post, but maybe it helps as a focus and composition tool
I just bought the physical 1.4x TC from Fuji for my X-T5 + 70-300mm. Is there any point in adding the 1.4x digital TC as well on top?
Another excellent video, Chris. But there’s one inaccurate statement that needs clarification. When comparing digital to optical teleconverters you stated that with optical teleconverters “there is no loss of resolution.” That’s simply not true. There is almost a hit to resolution at some level with it being more noticeable with 2x teleconverters compared to 1.4x. In some cases, the resolution degradation is enough to make cropping a viable option in place of using the teleconverter.
Hi.. can use the optical teleconverter with the 55-200??
Hi, I haven't used the digital converter but while taking photos the other day the camera (XH2) zoomed in? When I turned the camera off and back on again it was back to normal. I'm not sure why it did this please? (I only have the Fuji 23mm prime lens). Thank you
is the digital 1.4 teleconverter available on the xt4 ?
I’m a bit confused on how to calculate the equivalent focal length after the crop factors of both the cropped sensor and the teleconverter.
So for example the FX 23mm be equivalent to 48mm if set to 1.4 on an XT5, right?
How is this digital teloconverter different from the one on X100V?
I wonder if this works with adapted manual focus lens.
What are the exact MP you get at 1.4x and 2.0x digital crop?
i really want fuji to take this feature further, work with adobe to make sure lightroom can read the crop metadata to auto crop the raw file, like how the Leica Q2 works. then my 23mm F1.4 can be used as a 35mm F2, which is all i needed.
100% this is the real request we need from Fuji, not for them to create a JPG we didn’t ask for.
I've been using it with my 100-400 to do "test runs" of what the focal range of the real teleconverters would be like. Getting use to what that lens would be like on a 1.4 or 2.0 physical teleconverter. I'm not too worried about the light loss from the physical ones given the ois+ibis on that lens and X-H2 body, and also that I'm in Texas where the sun is so brutally bright I sometimes NEED to stop down to f9 while at 125 iso and +1/1000 shutter speed.
I've also used it at a race track down here given some parts of the viewing area are blocked off. Felt great rolling with (granted a chunky lens for Fuji) just a 100-400 while some people on Canons and Nikons were running the giant 600+ primes on monopods, while the digital teleconverter helps surpass that full frame focal length.
If I use medium resolution and I decide to use 1.4X digital zoom will the zoomed jpeg simply stay at medium resolution ?
I’ve used the digital zoom on the X100V - quite a handy feature. I don’t think it reduces the image size though but I’ll check!
How would it not?
I have used this feature on the X100V and the image size remains exactly the same, 6240 x 4160. This is because Fuji sizes up the cropped versions with a built-in program similar to the program, Genuine Fractals, used in the early days of digital photography when we only had 2MG sensors that otherwise was insufficient to cover a two-page spread for print publication. Check it out!
Is this the same as sony clear image zoom?
The last point - a quick check on the fly - seems to be the only real advantage.
I've searched everywhere for an off brand optical one, could not find any for fuji...
Hello, I want to buy a 1.4 teleconverter for my 70-300 lens, but do you think it is a logical decision to add a little more on it and replace my X-T4 camera with X-T5 and shoot birds and animals with 2x digital teleconverter. This way I will not lose aperture. Which is better in terms of focus speed and quality? Thank you.
Does x-h2s support this?
Hello! I have a Fujifilm X100F that has the digital teleconverter function. First of all, it must be said that it can only be activated if I shoot in jpg. But to my pleasant surprise it doesn't crop like it does in Lightroon. On the contrary, it does a rescaling and keeps the size of 6000x4000 pixels. And it actually does quite well. That's why it strikes me that the X-T5 doesn't do the same. Could it be that in this case if you shoot in raw it cuts and if you shoot in jpg it doesn't? Please can someone confirm it for me? Thank you so much! Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina!!!
I was really hoping that the crop would be in raw. I want to get rid of my m43 camera and just use apsc and FF.
You can use it with raw just to make it easy to focus on distant objects. The resulting image is the raw with perfect sharpness at the right spot. The problem is that focus peak doesn't work with feature.
That’s such a frustrating limitation!!! It’s ideal for manual focus otherwise.
Looks like the digital tele narrows the angle of view just as going from full frame to APS-C does. So, it’s actually a crop. Regardless, nice feature.
I use the digital teleconverter all the time with my 70-300.
What I don't understand is why you can't get a 1.4 or 2x cropped raw file? I thought that is what the camera was doing until I looked at my photos, as I was only shooting in RAW at the time. If fiju does do an update, I'd love for them to incorporate a setting that allows the user to choose between a cropped jpeg or cropped raw file, I like having all the information for editing before I export them as a jpeg. I also don't really care to have the normal non cropped file, since all I wanted was a cropped raw file anyways. I know it takes 2 seconds to crop in Lightroom, but thought that the in-camera ability to crop a raw file with the teleconverter was a nice idea. Am I the only one that thinks like this though?
i hope Fuji will bring an XT monochrome on the market that would be great ....it would be mind blowing and it will be serious competitor for the Q2 .... yea I hope for the XT-5 Noir ....lollllllllllllllll
Isn't it basically the same as simply cropping your image in post? Might as well not use digital zoom at all and do it in post, retaining original jpeg.
You can use this with video at least I use it with my XH2, in 4K HQ you can use the zoom, remember with video often there is already a crop applied, my XH2S does not do this with its lower resolution sensor.
Is there less rolling shutter if you use the crop in video mode?
I broke Rule #1. I believe it works fine for 4k video on my X-H2. So perhaps there are some cameras that are an exception to this rule.
I would prefer fuji would give us a firmware upgrade that incorporated the crop in metadata for light room so we would have the same composition once uploaded in light room
This feature is quite useless. I think Fuji should give us a M43 mode like Crop mode in FF cameras with no retrictions. BTW, thanks for your great video.
So what's the difference between this and cropping in post?
He talks about that in the video
I checked and you can still engage the digital tc when the 1.4 tc is on the camera. I was wandering if you tried this.
not yet. definitely want to!
@@pal2tech I'll give it a go and let you know how it went.
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Another option is Topaz Gigapixel AI.
isnt it possible to feed raws back into the camera to process over USB, like for film simulation. Just feed the raw from the original image with the same recipe.
yea you just mentioned it at the end, you could directly compare those jpgs