Been meaning to ask, do your neighbors ever complain about the sound of screaming drones? Or do they just not know where that darn noise is coming from? I have a local Karen that called the cops on me because I was flying my quad in the park a block away from her house (during the middle of the day) and she claimed she could hear it inside her house. Of course, I'm in California, home of the SuperKarens aparently.
Another great video Josh! I wanted to take a second and thank you for all the time and effort you put into this channel. I've just recently made the jump from DJI products to self building FPV rigs and your content has been priceless. I work midnights as a Mental Healthcare Technician at a Forensic Mental Hospital and building/flying FPV has helped me deal with a recent and unwelcome bout of anxiety. I've struggled with ADD for over 20 years and it's been very common for me to throw myself 110% into something for a few weeks and then get totally burnt out. With your help the usual "wall of frustration" I normally hit when my technical abilities max out has been destroyed! So far there hasn't been one single issue I've hit that you haven't done a video on! I appreciate it so much, you're the first Patreon user I've ever committed to helping monthly! You've even personally responded to a couple comments I've left on videos! Thanks again for being awesome!
What I did to learn this a few years back was to fly past an object, constantly focusing on that object. Then, simply do that, but upside down. This not only helps you with adjusting your uptilt and getting a clean yaw spin but also makes the trick a bit more interesting (yes yes I know it's very interesting on its own but for the viewer, proximity tricks are always more impressive than doing the same move on an open field).
What worked for me was to practice yaw spinning the normal way up while focusing on a single point above me. Then I flipped... When I looked at a point and tried to maintain it, the controls were more intuitive than trying to maintain level horizon.
That last one you hit perfectly made me say immediately "He's gonna crash now". That's the thing when that happens it boosts your confidence to the sky and then ...
Loved this video Joshua, one of the most exciting ones you've made lately, great flying, and fantastic content for beginners like myself. It is very encouraging to see you are still learning things to.
Very nice, it is refreshing to see thought put in to the mechanics of flying and perfecting your skills. Love where you say fly the aircraft that is a staple of a private pilot.
The first advanced trick i got in my tool belt, and one of my favorites to do. Can't wait to get home from work and watch this video. Great content this week, JB! 🙌
Awesome video and awesome flying. I've gotten hooked on inverted yaw spins after seeing a video by Lumpy_FPV where he did a half front flip into 180 inverted yaw into a half Matty flip through a small gap. Watching what you did with inverted yaw spins just inspired me even more😎
Hey Joshua, that was a very informative video on the inverted yaw. Listening to someone practice while explaining what is going on is very helpful. I enjoyed it and I learned something as well!. Thanks brother for all you do for the hobby!
My advice: punch throttle and pitch back a little (because you're probably flying forward) at the same time, roll to inverted (not pitch to invert), do your yaw... (I talked to you way back in 2017 or so about the inverted yawspin. Back then you were already annoyed by the "almighty trick"! Nice to see you're still trying! Keep it up!)
I agree with a lot of others, the "shortcut" is the way to do it. Gotta give a shout out to headmazta that has an awesome tutorial on inverted yaw spins. Great job explaining the shortcut though!
Yeah, the 'shortcut' lets you get those super crisp, super flat spins. I only add roll when i screw up on getting properly oriented- lets you save the trick at least. The headmazta tutorial is the way to go.
The one where you flick, 180 inverted yaw spin, 180 roll then, 180 Yaw spin again to go forward was really cool. Especially the last time where you did the first yaw spin one way and then the second the other. It's like a frilly juicy flick.
Very nice to see you flying some more! Charing your process is great too. I find the hardest part of yaw spins is coming out of them in a smooth way. I guess it's the disorientation combined with the ground closing in that makes this trick one of the more panic causing :D
To be honest, for me it was way easier to get that angle that quad is perfectly upside down to just use Yaw axis. I've started to learn after Farouk's video (Smooth Violence FPV Freestyle) to get perfect Yaw locks and it took me about 2 month to let's say master ;)
Thanks for the video! I have been struggling with inverted yaw spins, sometimes i can get it, but most of the time...not so much. Ill have to give it another go!
Coordinating yaw and roll for spinning flat while pitched forward isn't really easy, especially when you have different yaw and roll rates, since then for different angles the change in the mix of the two isn't even linear. So most pilots practicing the "non-shortcut" version of this trick will end up only doing it at a certain angle (most times with the horizon in the vertical center of the frame) anyway, so one might as well just use the "shortcut" since it's both easier and gives you more of the ground to look at, which is often the more interesting part of the frame. Also I'd say that generally an inverted yaw spin looks more impressive after a half flip forwards than after half a flip backwards or half a power loop - probably because often times one is closer to the ground after a juicy flick than after half a power loop, so the viewer isn't really expecting such a move. One using an inverted yaw spin while flinging yourself over an obstacle, remember: Flipping forward, then 180° inverted yaw spin and pull up will take you back in the direction you came from (which is like a cooler version of a split-s move) while doing a 360° inverted yaw sping after flipping forwards and then pitching back up will let you continue in the direction you were originally going - which is pretty logical if you think about it. ;)
Nice video JB ! I really like how we get on board with you along practicing a 'new' trick. I can't figure which obstacle or what kind of horizon view would make this trick cinematic. For now it feels like it's just part of the fpv pilot checklist of 'trick i can pull'.
The “stick banging” with timing to get the quad horizontal and use yaw input only is what allows you to do very clean inverted yaw impossibly close to the ground and combine inverted yaw with other moves. You get so quick it appears to the viewer that the quad has gone from upright flight into slowly yawing inverted with nothing in between and you have to stretch out the move if you want to achieve a different effect. I started the way you did with two inputs but getting muscle memory to put you into the flat inverted position with a very quick forward or backward half flip just works. I usually give the throttle a blip as I flip into the inverted position too, this allows me to do it very close to the ground etc.
If u want better hang in ur inverted yaw spin.. 1. Give ur self a good foward flick with downward pitch, like a juicy gets u inverted with good fowars momentum. 2. Keep ur idle percent between 4.5 and 5%.. 5.5% was always default.. been running 4.2% for over a yr.. better for dives keeps u stuck to the building and upside down longer 😉👍
Why is it that I still hear Carlos' / Charpu voice in my head when I read Yaw Spin :) Reckon you should dig out some of your Original flights & do a side by side comparison - your flying has come a long way 👏
Looks awesome. Even cleaner with a subject to look at below like the house at the end. Wonder if it would look better or sloppy to begin yaw either near the end of the initial invert or maybe blended into the exit invert?
For the move at 15:13 over the house, try a backflip in frontflip out. It is more dramatic looking. Front to Front just looks like a punch to Split-s, which is cool but less yaw spiny.
A lot of people are cheating their roll too then 😌 Both centered and of axis yaw spins are nice to watch, and just should be considered at two separate tricks. Same for centered rolls and off axis rolls, it just adds some spice and interesting effects.
Yes, certainly enjoyed it. Especially when you were saying *interesting* and *that was kinda cool* and I'm going the whole time *that would be me crashing 10 seconds in*... or *hello tree... let's just hang around here well out of reach* 😆 Showing the sticks was great - gave me some ideas on things to try...
I fly my main freestyle rig at 35° uptilt, and I've learned to accommodate for most tricks but the inverted yaw spin is the one I just can't nail down (I can nail them the "cheater way" as shown in this vid but they're not visually appealing). I can flat yaw spin all day not inverted, so I was equally as confused as you to why it's so difficult. I put the camera of my secondary freestyle quad to 5° and it's basically a beginners level trick to nail. Unfortunately I don't have as much fun with 5°, but it's nice to switch it up occasionally. Totally different flying styles between the two though.
First trick i ever learned was the inverted yaw, i love em! :D they are tricky though, takes a fair bit of muscle memory of when to start the yaw after dropping throttle :)
I have no problem getting the yaw and roll together properly but I cant yaw while inverted without the quad rocketing to the ground at full speed even with the throttle at 0 or as close to it as i can. I can supposedly be well above the FAA limit, much higher than you were goin in this video and still pancake it before I get a single 180 yaw spin in.
Is it possible to put a custom overlay in betaflight and based on your cam angle, you could simply line up the horizon with the marker and know that your quad is at an inverted 180? What about an indicator that turns on when the gyro indicates 180 degree +/- ??
Am i the only one who learnt this movement from ground zero with roll in mind? Believe me or not I find compensating imperfections on the horizon by roll, easier than trying to get the quad perfectly flat inverted all the time. Btw one recommendation, roll into inverted yaw spin so you end up giving similar roll-yaw mixes to compensate your pitch as you end up inverted at your cruising angle. Also utilise yaw when rolling into the spin so you spin the quad around the camera and not spin the camera around the quad
I like to kick that pitch back over and over to get the muscle memory of being flat and like you said said just yaw! Its good to learn correction cause even when dialed in you will still over/under correct. 180 roll/yaws are weird and pitch forward is funky but a good one!
I LOVED this video, not only with what you said, but what you didn't say. I think you might have tapped into something there at the 12:05 mark, where you said it was playing catch with yourself, banging the sticks. I think if someone were to do a little sim work, then do the maneuver a few times with some altitude just to get comfortable with it, then simply do a couple packs a day just "playing catch with yourself" and forget about the overall trick, just get some solid muscle memory on the very basics of the trick. for a couple days or a week even. Then go and start trying it in proximity moves, and I'm betting they'll be much more acrobatic, or smooth freestyle looking. I'm gonna test out that hypothesis and let you know in a week or so. Also at the end there when the trick was starting to look good over your house, instead of doing a 360 in order to pitch out of it going the same direction, could you roll out of a 180 to accomplish going the same direction, or do you have to pitch out of it in order to be a text book inverted yaw spin?
I never even thought about cheating this trick, for me it was instantaneously clear that it had to be done like a regular yawspin requiring all stick inputs. But thanks for bringing the cheaty way up to me xD
Liftoff doesn't simulate the motors spinning up when yawing so inverted yaw spins are artificially easy there. IRL and in many other sims you'll start accelerating towards the ground faster when you apply the yaw.
Thanks for this video Joshua. I'll definitely try the inverted yaw spin coming from a power loop. Love this idea. I've been trying them..... mine are short and hectic and don't look good (yet😉)
If you fly a 3D quad inverted in a simulator you get a lot more practice time working on it - not to mention an entire host of new skills. Such as Inverted fly around a point left and right.
I think in some of your lines you could really benefit from doing the full 360, because then it allows you to keep your momentum and a more purposeful goal in your flight and the yaw spin adds to that and it's nicer when you come out of it, if that makes sense Whereas the 180 sort of slows down the momentum and kind of disorients everything Or maybe if you sort of just instantly went into something else out of the 180? Idk, you're an infinitely better pilot than me so 😅 Sorry it is rather late at night right now and idrk what I'm saying haha Really good video, love your content!
I focus the camera on something and then mix yaw and roll keeping the camera locked in then center of the spin or at least that's the goal but I also do it the other way where the horizon spins. Fun both ways
Can't you tell betaflight your camera angle and it will mix the stick inputs for you? I know I've heard you say no one uses that, but would that make things like this easier?
I got more "flowy" my inverted jaw speen by going inverted past something tall and then track (lock on) it as I go by. Like the tip of a tree or light pole.
The problem is what you mentioned, "I can't assume I'll land over my field". Last te I tried this, I went far up in the sky and thought I had a lot of time and assumed I would land back in my yard. I landed on my neighbors yard and there were people there. I almost shat my pants, I was so scared I never attempted this trick again, my property is to small.
Hey Josh hope you keeping well,I have been watching your channel for quite a well now and I'm loving it...I just wanna know if you ever gonna do a Martian 2 frame build as I'm currently buying one and I just wanna see you assemble one,fan from South africa
Inverted yaws are so hard to get clean looking. I practiced them in liftoff where I can do them low to the ground and clean due to liftoff having that floaty feel. In reality your kwad seems to come to the ground much quicker making it harder to look good and get a nice exit! Most tricks in the sim I do I can replicate on my kwad but not this one yet! Just a few more crashes away to getting it right😂
I find doing them durring a power loop to be an easy way to get the hang of it. I know it sounds crazy but whe you do the power loop, as soon as you hit that flat spot at the top you just input yaw, catch it once it makes a full rotation and then continue the power loop. it sounds harder then it actually is in pratice.
I used to do the mixing of sticks but for me I think it looks better the easy way, with a little more ground in the view. I suppose it depends on how much up tilt your cameras at, I'm at ~25* I could see if you at 35* or greater how you'd want to try and compensate to get a little more sky in view
Once you’ve got this working, the best exit from an inverted yaw spin is to to keep the yaw input but just reverse the roll. You’ll just spiral out of it.
I found that easiest way to do that is: Fly near object. Then roll into it for 180 degrees and keep holding yaw for tracking object. Then just roll out to normal position.
Yaw is the fear why I don't use FPV, I let the daughter use the FPV and fly LOS, simply due to the fear or having to use YAW correction as I'm completely not used to it. My brain does up down on the left and turn on the right. Anything more is like my brain being overclocked and burning out. It doesn't help I don't have many open spaces in the UK to fly without smashing it into someone's face if I get it wrong.
The horizon level when you are flying level, just needs to be reversed. for a clean inverted yaw only spin. So if its 70% sky, 30% ground just flip it to 70% ground and it will be perfect every time. Flip, wait for the horizon to line up then yaw 🍄
This is the way. I never thought of it as the "cheater" method, you'd do a fast yaw spin exactly the same way right side up. Punch up, pitch back to flatten the quad (so your view will have whatever angle you have it set at, say 80% sky, 20% ground), flick the yaw stick left or right and watch it spin while keeping the horizon level. Pressure here has the right of it if you want to do it inverted - simply flip the quad over and exchange your values. So in the case of above, if you need 80% sky to do a regular yaw spin, simply invert so you have 80% ground and 20% sky. As long as the horizon is level you can spin til you're hearts desire and do perfect invert yaw spins. This is one of the first tricks I've learned and one of my favorite. Looks really cool coming out of a loop or transitioning into a dive.
JB you only have to use yaw in right angle. Thats the easyest way to learn stop in right position. Or the same idk. Question: focus to one tree, fly on the right side of it, the same heigh, litle higher, make a 180° right roll at 10 meters away from it and follow the tree with yaw. This was a very very easy way for me to learn invert yaw spin. You want to leran this, so whats the different between learn right or learn cheating? 😂
X frame flies bettter but has props in view. If you don't care about props in view, get X. If you do care, get deadcat. The difference between them is really small.
mine are done by finding the spot thats flat and only using yaw to spin when inverted trying to use roll as well just never worked, never thought I'd say it to you but check my tutorial out lol 😂
I disagree strongly. It really depends on the placement and what you are trying to do. Most of the time getting the quad truly flat with an off centered horizon (lower third) looks the best, is the most consistent, and fits the flow. For example, a power loop with an inverted yaw in the middle, just run the quad flat. None of this centered horizon coordinated roll stuff you are trying to do here. The centered horizon and coordinated roll and yaw is useful for tracking objects when inverted, not much else. Doing it the hard way doesn't make it the better way...
I was so busy trying to figure out how I was cheating that I missed the beginning explanation of what's going on here. Nice JB! Implement that skill in your run and not a single trick to score big. Thanks! 😎🤜
Been meaning to ask, do your neighbors ever complain about the sound of screaming drones? Or do they just not know where that darn noise is coming from? I have a local Karen that called the cops on me because I was flying my quad in the park a block away from her house (during the middle of the day) and she claimed she could hear it inside her house. Of course, I'm in California, home of the SuperKarens aparently.
Man that sucks. I'm in SoCal and fly all my local parks with no issue.
That same thing has happened to us at our park but more often people are positive .
I just wish I was in California 😂😂
@@richardheedfpv9626 no you don't. It sucks now.
Have you seen the size of this man's yard? What neighbors? 😅
Everything from ~10:00 through ~14:00, including the sounds JB makes basically describes my flying, but with more crashes.
Well, the only difference in my case is that I use to crash into palm trees. 😬
Another great video Josh!
I wanted to take a second and thank you for all the time and effort you put into this channel. I've just recently made the jump from DJI products to self building FPV rigs and your content has been priceless.
I work midnights as a Mental Healthcare Technician at a Forensic Mental Hospital and building/flying FPV has helped me deal with a recent and unwelcome bout of anxiety.
I've struggled with ADD for over 20 years and it's been very common for me to throw myself 110% into something for a few weeks and then get totally burnt out.
With your help the usual "wall of frustration" I normally hit when my technical abilities max out has been destroyed!
So far there hasn't been one single issue I've hit that you haven't done a video on!
I appreciate it so much, you're the first Patreon user I've ever committed to helping monthly!
You've even personally responded to a couple comments I've left on videos!
Thanks again for being awesome!
Dude, that line that you did starting around 15:35 looks insane. The little look-back pause that you did before the yaw spin was dope
What I did to learn this a few years back was to fly past an object, constantly focusing on that object. Then, simply do that, but upside down. This not only helps you with adjusting your uptilt and getting a clean yaw spin but also makes the trick a bit more interesting (yes yes I know it's very interesting on its own but for the viewer, proximity tricks are always more impressive than doing the same move on an open field).
And here’s me yelling “now faster!” at the screen. Rootin for Bardwell
What worked for me was to practice yaw spinning the normal way up while focusing on a single point above me. Then I flipped... When I looked at a point and tried to maintain it, the controls were more intuitive than trying to maintain level horizon.
That last one you hit perfectly made me say immediately "He's gonna crash now". That's the thing when that happens it boosts your confidence to the sky and then ...
Loved this video Joshua, one of the most exciting ones you've made lately, great flying, and fantastic content for beginners like myself. It is very encouraging to see you are still learning things to.
Very nice, it is refreshing to see thought put in to the mechanics of flying and perfecting your skills. Love where you say fly the aircraft that is a staple of a private pilot.
The first advanced trick i got in my tool belt, and one of my favorites to do. Can't wait to get home from work and watch this video. Great content this week, JB! 🙌
Good to know I'm not alone, upsidedown yaw spin is nerve wracking...😁
I love watching videos like this even though I'm still just trying to not crash every 2 minutes lol, cant wait until this is relevant to my flying
How you doing now?
Awesome video and awesome flying. I've gotten hooked on inverted yaw spins after seeing a video by Lumpy_FPV where he did a half front flip into 180 inverted yaw into a half Matty flip through a small gap. Watching what you did with inverted yaw spins just inspired me even more😎
Hey Joshua, that was a very informative video on the inverted yaw. Listening to someone practice while explaining what is going on is very helpful. I enjoyed it and I learned something as well!. Thanks brother for all you do for the hobby!
My advice: punch throttle and pitch back a little (because you're probably flying forward) at the same time, roll to inverted (not pitch to invert), do your yaw... (I talked to you way back in 2017 or so about the inverted yawspin. Back then you were already annoyed by the "almighty trick"! Nice to see you're still trying! Keep it up!)
I agree with a lot of others, the "shortcut" is the way to do it. Gotta give a shout out to headmazta that has an awesome tutorial on inverted yaw spins.
Great job explaining the shortcut though!
Yeah, the 'shortcut' lets you get those super crisp, super flat spins. I only add roll when i screw up on getting properly oriented- lets you save the trick at least. The headmazta tutorial is the way to go.
The moves are awesome but what I notice is how freakin awesome that quad is flying 😁✌🏾
The one where you flick, 180 inverted yaw spin, 180 roll then, 180 Yaw spin again to go forward was really cool. Especially the last time where you did the first yaw spin one way and then the second the other. It's like a frilly juicy flick.
Some fantastic flying there, Joshua! 😃
Thanks for all the tips!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Very nice to see you flying some more! Charing your process is great too.
I find the hardest part of yaw spins is coming out of them in a smooth way. I guess it's the disorientation combined with the ground closing in that makes this trick one of the more panic causing :D
To be honest, for me it was way easier to get that angle that quad is perfectly upside down to just use Yaw axis. I've started to learn after Farouk's video (Smooth Violence FPV Freestyle) to get perfect Yaw locks and it took me about 2 month to let's say master ;)
Thanks for the video! I have been struggling with inverted yaw spins, sometimes i can get it, but most of the time...not so much.
Ill have to give it another go!
Coordinating yaw and roll for spinning flat while pitched forward isn't really easy, especially when you have different yaw and roll rates, since then for different angles the change in the mix of the two isn't even linear. So most pilots practicing the "non-shortcut" version of this trick will end up only doing it at a certain angle (most times with the horizon in the vertical center of the frame) anyway, so one might as well just use the "shortcut" since it's both easier and gives you more of the ground to look at, which is often the more interesting part of the frame. Also I'd say that generally an inverted yaw spin looks more impressive after a half flip forwards than after half a flip backwards or half a power loop - probably because often times one is closer to the ground after a juicy flick than after half a power loop, so the viewer isn't really expecting such a move. One using an inverted yaw spin while flinging yourself over an obstacle, remember: Flipping forward, then 180° inverted yaw spin and pull up will take you back in the direction you came from (which is like a cooler version of a split-s move) while doing a 360° inverted yaw sping after flipping forwards and then pitching back up will let you continue in the direction you were originally going - which is pretty logical if you think about it. ;)
I was the first of my friends to go for a inverted yaw spin, but I like to do a full 360 inverted. I love that trick, now I'm onto Reverse Split S
Nice video JB ! I really like how we get on board with you along practicing a 'new' trick.
I can't figure which obstacle or what kind of horizon view would make this trick cinematic. For now it feels like it's just part of the fpv pilot checklist of 'trick i can pull'.
The “stick banging” with timing to get the quad horizontal and use yaw input only is what allows you to do very clean inverted yaw impossibly close to the ground and combine inverted yaw with other moves. You get so quick it appears to the viewer that the quad has gone from upright flight into slowly yawing inverted with nothing in between and you have to stretch out the move if you want to achieve a different effect.
I started the way you did with two inputs but getting muscle memory to put you into the flat inverted position with a very quick forward or backward half flip just works. I usually give the throttle a blip as I flip into the inverted position too, this allows me to do it very close to the ground etc.
Looks like your weather is just as nice as Atlanta right now. Very nice looking day and glad you got out to rip some packs.
If u want better hang in ur inverted yaw spin..
1. Give ur self a good foward flick with downward pitch, like a juicy gets u inverted with good fowars momentum.
2. Keep ur idle percent between 4.5 and 5%.. 5.5% was always default.. been running 4.2% for over a yr.. better for dives keeps u stuck to the building and upside down longer 😉👍
"Everyone but me"! I liked that! That's of the soul reasons I'm sticking with you.
Why is it that I still hear Carlos' / Charpu voice in my head when I read Yaw Spin :)
Reckon you should dig out some of your Original flights & do a side by side comparison - your flying has come a long way 👏
Looks awesome. Even cleaner with a subject to look at below like the house at the end. Wonder if it would look better or sloppy to begin yaw either near the end of the initial invert or maybe blended into the exit invert?
That's why I pitch back while applying yaw to get a flat spin when I'm upright. Haven't tried the inverted yaw spin yet looks like fun
For the move at 15:13 over the house, try a backflip in frontflip out. It is more dramatic looking. Front to Front just looks like a punch to Split-s, which is cool but less yaw spiny.
I agree. It just feels like a split S and is sort of boring.
A lot of people are cheating their roll too then 😌 Both centered and of axis yaw spins are nice to watch, and just should be considered at two separate tricks. Same for centered rolls and off axis rolls, it just adds some spice and interesting effects.
I hate non-centered rolls lol. They're so ugly. The more uptilt the uglier
@@jakeh3144 I think it has its charm in certain instances, especially aligned with the horizon.
@@AuxPlumes The only time I'm a fan is if you're really close to the ground or if you're rolling your back on something like a tree canopy.
Keep working that, and you'll have some fun lines. You were definitely starting to crack into some interesting combination flows
Nice Joshua. Love your confidence 👊🏻👊🏻
Yes, certainly enjoyed it. Especially when you were saying *interesting* and *that was kinda cool* and I'm going the whole time *that would be me crashing 10 seconds in*... or *hello tree... let's just hang around here well out of reach* 😆 Showing the sticks was great - gave me some ideas on things to try...
I fly my main freestyle rig at 35° uptilt, and I've learned to accommodate for most tricks but the inverted yaw spin is the one I just can't nail down (I can nail them the "cheater way" as shown in this vid but they're not visually appealing). I can flat yaw spin all day not inverted, so I was equally as confused as you to why it's so difficult. I put the camera of my secondary freestyle quad to 5° and it's basically a beginners level trick to nail. Unfortunately I don't have as much fun with 5°, but it's nice to switch it up occasionally. Totally different flying styles between the two though.
💥Perfect timing! I was trying these yesterday & needed a refresher!
First trick i ever learned was the inverted yaw, i love em! :D they are tricky though, takes a fair bit of muscle memory of when to start the yaw after dropping throttle :)
I have no problem getting the yaw and roll together properly but I cant yaw while inverted without the quad rocketing to the ground at full speed even with the throttle at 0 or as close to it as i can. I can supposedly be well above the FAA limit, much higher than you were goin in this video and still pancake it before I get a single 180 yaw spin in.
Is it possible to put a custom overlay in betaflight and based on your cam angle, you could simply line up the horizon with the marker and know that your quad is at an inverted 180? What about an indicator that turns on when the gyro indicates 180 degree +/- ??
Am i the only one who learnt this movement from ground zero with roll in mind? Believe me or not I find compensating imperfections on the horizon by roll, easier than trying to get the quad perfectly flat inverted all the time. Btw one recommendation, roll into inverted yaw spin so you end up giving similar roll-yaw mixes to compensate your pitch as you end up inverted at your cruising angle. Also utilise yaw when rolling into the spin so you spin the quad around the camera and not spin the camera around the quad
I like to kick that pitch back over and over to get the muscle memory of being flat and like you said said just yaw! Its good to learn correction cause even when dialed in you will still over/under correct. 180 roll/yaws are weird and pitch forward is funky but a good one!
I LOVED this video, not only with what you said, but what you didn't say. I think you might have tapped into something there at the 12:05 mark, where you said it was playing catch with yourself, banging the sticks. I think if someone were to do a little sim work, then do the maneuver a few times with some altitude just to get comfortable with it, then simply do a couple packs a day just "playing catch with yourself" and forget about the overall trick, just get some solid muscle memory on the very basics of the trick. for a couple days or a week even. Then go and start trying it in proximity moves, and I'm betting they'll be much more acrobatic, or smooth freestyle looking. I'm gonna test out that hypothesis and let you know in a week or so.
Also at the end there when the trick was starting to look good over your house, instead of doing a 360 in order to pitch out of it going the same direction, could you roll out of a 180 to accomplish going the same direction, or do you have to pitch out of it in order to be a text book inverted yaw spin?
I never even thought about cheating this trick, for me it was instantaneously clear that it had to be done like a regular yawspin requiring all stick inputs. But thanks for bringing the cheaty way up to me xD
JB, I’m enjoying the videography and the “stick input overlay” looks super sexy. 😊
Liftoff doesn't simulate the motors spinning up when yawing so inverted yaw spins are artificially easy there. IRL and in many other sims you'll start accelerating towards the ground faster when you apply the yaw.
Thanks for this video Joshua. I'll definitely try the inverted yaw spin coming from a power loop. Love this idea. I've been trying them..... mine are short and hectic and don't look good (yet😉)
Have you ever flown zero g? I would think that would be the best way to do this.
Love you're fly video's, you should do it more, maybe another 3 packs a day kind of series?
Just thinking maybe revisit the inverted Yaw Track that The Drib did. Cheers
I've learned you never respond to my questions 😂. Every now and then I still learn something 👍
If you fly a 3D quad inverted in a simulator you get a lot more practice time working on it - not to mention an entire host of new skills.
Such as Inverted fly around a point left and right.
I think in some of your lines you could really benefit from doing the full 360, because then it allows you to keep your momentum and a more purposeful goal in your flight and the yaw spin adds to that and it's nicer when you come out of it, if that makes sense
Whereas the 180 sort of slows down the momentum and kind of disorients everything
Or maybe if you sort of just instantly went into something else out of the 180?
Idk, you're an infinitely better pilot than me so 😅
Sorry it is rather late at night right now and idrk what I'm saying haha
Really good video, love your content!
I focus the camera on something and then mix yaw and roll keeping the camera locked in then center of the spin or at least that's the goal but I also do it the other way where the horizon spins. Fun both ways
Can't you tell betaflight your camera angle and it will mix the stick inputs for you? I know I've heard you say no one uses that, but would that make things like this easier?
I appreciate this one JB, while the tech is great, this was just pure fun. I'm now going to incorperate the moves.
I got more "flowy" my inverted jaw speen by going inverted past something tall and then track (lock on) it as I go by. Like the tip of a tree or light pole.
The problem is what you mentioned, "I can't assume I'll land over my field". Last te I tried this, I went far up in the sky and thought I had a lot of time and assumed I would land back in my yard. I landed on my neighbors yard and there were people there. I almost shat my pants, I was so scared I never attempted this trick again, my property is to small.
Hey Josh hope you keeping well,I have been watching your channel for quite a well now and I'm loving it...I just wanna know if you ever gonna do a Martian 2 frame build as I'm currently buying one and I just wanna see you assemble one,fan from South africa
Inverted yaws are so hard to get clean looking. I practiced them in liftoff where I can do them low to the ground and clean due to liftoff having that floaty feel. In reality your kwad seems to come to the ground much quicker making it harder to look good and get a nice exit! Most tricks in the sim I do I can replicate on my kwad but not this one yet! Just a few more crashes away to getting it right😂
Nice work! Looks awesome!!
to keep your flow, after you do an inverted 180 yaw spin over your house, do a roll rather than front/back flip
how would it go when you adjust the camera angle in BF ?
Just curious,have you tried to roll to an inverted yaw spin? personally i find it way easier.
I find doing them durring a power loop to be an easy way to get the hang of it. I know it sounds crazy but whe you do the power loop, as soon as you hit that flat spot at the top you just input yaw, catch it once it makes a full rotation and then continue the power loop. it sounds harder then it actually is in pratice.
15:31 you could like come out of it and go in to a split s for a cool cinematic shot
I used to do the mixing of sticks but for me I think it looks better the easy way, with a little more ground in the view. I suppose it depends on how much up tilt your cameras at, I'm at ~25* I could see if you at 35* or greater how you'd want to try and compensate to get a little more sky in view
The “Playing Catch” exercise is something i need to work on.
Once you’ve got this working, the best exit from an inverted yaw spin is to to keep the yaw input but just reverse the roll. You’ll just spiral out of it.
I found that easiest way to do that is: Fly near object. Then roll into it for 180 degrees and keep holding yaw for tracking object. Then just roll out to normal position.
Bro i love your videos
Yaw is the fear why I don't use FPV, I let the daughter use the FPV and fly LOS, simply due to the fear or having to use YAW correction as I'm completely not used to it. My brain does up down on the left and turn on the right. Anything more is like my brain being overclocked and burning out. It doesn't help I don't have many open spaces in the UK to fly without smashing it into someone's face if I get it wrong.
I didn't know there was a cheat method. Which to me seems harder than doing it well. Btw. What propts would be best for hanging more in the air?
you should do your hop over dive gate,
so the yaw spin is over the top square.
then looks like you can hop over it back and forth
Like tennis...
sync fpv is class at doing inverted yaw spins ..you should check it out ,he says to roll in and out is easier
AMEN, I do mixing on my Inverted Yaw spins buddy! Not easy.
Noticed the kayak ..love kayaking SOT 4 life homie
the best way i've found to do them is to not tilt back into them but rather roll into them and then you can go over things with very close proxi :)
Looking for goggles, I like the look of the Dji v3 from the beta flight video, can anyone help me locate/link these?
The horizon level when you are flying level, just needs to be reversed. for a clean inverted yaw only spin.
So if its 70% sky, 30% ground just flip it to 70% ground and it will be perfect every time. Flip, wait for the horizon to line up then yaw 🍄
This is the way.
I never thought of it as the "cheater" method, you'd do a fast yaw spin exactly the same way right side up. Punch up, pitch back to flatten the quad (so your view will have whatever angle you have it set at, say 80% sky, 20% ground), flick the yaw stick left or right and watch it spin while keeping the horizon level.
Pressure here has the right of it if you want to do it inverted - simply flip the quad over and exchange your values. So in the case of above, if you need 80% sky to do a regular yaw spin, simply invert so you have 80% ground and 20% sky. As long as the horizon is level you can spin til you're hearts desire and do perfect invert yaw spins.
This is one of the first tricks I've learned and one of my favorite. Looks really cool coming out of a loop or transitioning into a dive.
It looks like an inverted yaw track? If you did close to the tree tops, it will be an inverted yaw track.
Ended up being a solid one-pack at the end ;)
JB you only have to use yaw in right angle. Thats the easyest way to learn stop in right position. Or the same idk. Question: focus to one tree, fly on the right side of it, the same heigh, litle higher, make a 180° right roll at 10 meters away from it and follow the tree with yaw. This was a very very easy way for me to learn invert yaw spin. You want to leran this, so whats the different between learn right or learn cheating? 😂
so well made video as always
Dude that's a great video. Thank You. God bless the Queen.
I need you to help me out with decision: Dead Cat frame vs X frame (and why) for your type of flying.
X frame flies bettter but has props in view. If you don't care about props in view, get X. If you do care, get deadcat. The difference between them is really small.
@@JoshuaBardwell ok I have next one for you: X frame vs H frame and why?
mine are done by finding the spot thats flat and only using yaw to spin when inverted trying to use roll as well just never worked, never thought I'd say it to you but check my tutorial out lol 😂
I disagree strongly. It really depends on the placement and what you are trying to do. Most of the time getting the quad truly flat with an off centered horizon (lower third) looks the best, is the most consistent, and fits the flow. For example, a power loop with an inverted yaw in the middle, just run the quad flat. None of this centered horizon coordinated roll stuff you are trying to do here.
The centered horizon and coordinated roll and yaw is useful for tracking objects when inverted, not much else.
Doing it the hard way doesn't make it the better way...
The video is great. I'm your fan. I'm from China. Which quad in the video?
Glad I'm not the only one that struggles making this look good.
I find rolling into being inverted then just using yaw works amazingly well pretty foolproof try it out and you will laugh at how easy it is!
Liked it, you bring some calm vibes into whaqt would be scary to do :)
NIce save at the end!
My favorite freestyle maneuver.
I was so busy trying to figure out how I was cheating that I missed the beginning explanation of what's going on here.
Nice JB!
Implement that skill in your run and not a single trick to score big.
Thanks! 😎🤜
basic question. what simulator was used in this video?
Liftoff
From 13mins your getting really good now add some split s and you will be on your way to sbang
You say it doesn't look good?!?! To me it reminds me of my favorite trick. The Split S, but only starting it inverted.