The 14900K Will DESTROY Ryzen...Or Will It?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2023
- Hello all! Today we are taking a look at the upcoming performance of the 14900K against AMD's best, the 7800X3D and 7950X3D!
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At minute 9:00 I said I bought a 13900K, I meant to say 13700K. Oopsie👀🤭
People think the 13700k doesn't destroy the 12700k either. When it comes to Warzone that little bit of extra cache helps a ton. I gained a solid 50-60fps in minimums going from 12700k to 13700k with both just at stock settings.
Maybe on release the difference wasn't crazy, but today, it's huge difference. Especially because the 13700k oc's way higher and supports faster ram more consistently. Ddr5 on 12th gen was a joke, but on 13th gen it began to show it true potential!
@Beefy-Tech ya the latency potential is huge because of the extra cache and faster uncore. I get 10ns lower latency with identical ram settings. That doesn't even include the potential for heavier overclocks.
@@Beefy-Tech Yeah, ...thanks for a great video that made me rethink my upgrade plans. I'm kinda stuck with slow DDR5 4800 RAM and a crappy 12 gen motherboard. Replacing my 12700k with a newer CPU may not produce a WOW moment.
14900k will probably need a aquarium chiller to cool it down.
You'll need an industrial AC unit MINIMUM, and I'm ready for it, I hope😂
@@Beefy-Tech I saw a guy cooling his 6.3ghz 13900ks by aquarium chiller with triple D5 pumps and the temperatures don't even go higher than 30 Celsius 😅
@@Decki777 anything for that last bit of performance man😂
newer intel is getting more energy efficient. so all in all shouldnt take much more power
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the 14th gen is just a "Toc" generation, the 15th gen though, that's going to be a beast
I agree. The boost in performance this gen is minimal on the cpu itself, with the ram speed support increase being most of the performance gains.
15th gen being a completey new platform will allow them to push gains wayyy more!
14900k is crap lmaoooo going back to my 7800x3d
Are you still using process lasso for the 7800x3d? I use the 7950x3d but sometimes I think also process lasso don‘t work perfect or using the correct cores(1-15).
On the 7800x3d process lasso isn't needed since it only has 8 cores on 1 ccd.
For the 7950x3d, call of duty will sometimes use a second ccd core even though cores are set to 0-15 in lasso, and that's just because of the software AMD includes with chipsets that it does that.
Hey man just discovered your channel and your videos are very interesting. I wanted to ask you advice for my future build, I use 10700k and RTX4070 but I want to change. 14th gen is coming very soon, do you recommend to wait for the 14600k z790i and 7200c34 kit or go for the 7800X3D and 6400c30 ?
Also if 7800X3D is the msi b650m mortar good mobo for it ? I don't want to go full size mobo
Hey! I have always been skeptical of doing intel builds with midrange parts as overclocking tends to be extremely limited on the midrange on intel.
on AMD it is usually the same... but thanks to X3D cpu's it does not matter, as they do not overclock in the traditional sense, which allows you to easily cheap out on mobo, ram, and cooler and lose nearly NO performance! I made a build with a generic b650 mobo + M die ram + 40$ air cooler + 7800X3D and I got the SAME performance on that rig as I am getting on my current high end extreme OX rig... basically showing that the 7800X3D doesnt benefit much from high end parts.
For intel, I cannot say its a good idea to cheap out on mobo, as it may entirely kill ram stability and support! A lot of intel mobo's say they "achieve" a certain ram speed...and then they just dont lol. So be very careful choosing a mobo with an intel CPU if you do end up going for it!
@@Beefy-Tech thank you, also wanted to know if I go with 7800x3D, can I buy 7200c34 intel kit then downclock to 6000c30 ? Will it run good even it is intel xmp certified ? I want my ram to be futureproof
@@manioqtv If you go even for 7600mhz and detuned to 6400-6000 you can just run extremely tight timings. You do need full custom timings, but they are very interchangeable, so if you look through my videos ud be able to copy my ddr5 7600mhz timings easily.
keep in mind, the Arctic LF II mounting Kit won't work on the apex due to it's big VRM Heatsinks. U have to manually cut the bracket if you want to but stock LGA1700 Mounting Kit wont work with the Apex ONLY on the LFII. Get the EK nucleus or the trinity performance from arctic, they do perform better due to faster pump speed. the lian li one has a 32mm thick rad and better pump
I see, so the LF2 or ek nucleus will work with the Apex or will also require adjustment to work? Imma just go for what's simplest to work with😂
@@Beefy-Tech the nucleus works out of the box and the lf2 not. check the list on the arctic website
The EK nucleus is a great AIO as you know I use and temps are great. But the only problem is how the hoses are mounted to the pump head on the ram side. It can make it tricky getting a ram fan to fit because of where they are located
I'm looking for a Mini ITX motherboard for a 7800X3D build, what would you recommend? Also wanted to know if you recommend Intel I225-V or the Realtek RTL8125BG for the motherboard LAN. Currently using your WZ2 config file and its doing well, big thanks for that :) Using it with a 2700x 2070 Super X470 2x8 3200mhz CL16 build.
I build 1 week ago with the Asrock b650e ITX. Everything works good with expo enable
Ideally go for an Asus or Asrock b650E mini itx. Those will be the best of the bunch for sure. Also I'm not sure which lan driver to recommend, so go with the law of whatevers newest😂
generally speaking the intel lan in previous years has been more consistent and better, but realtek has improved it a bit overtime and they are both quite functional and stable
although I would still recommend intel lan overall for stability.
as for itx boards, i mean they have been super hit or miss this gen but yeah the Asrock pg riptide itx board and the msi edge are decent overall, I would prefer the asrock one though far over the msi one and the asus models are just very expensive compared to these 2
Excellent! I've heard good things about the Asrock board, I'm glad it's running well, makes me more comfortable about getting it, thank you!@@davidf5008
@@Beefy-Tech Thank you so much! I've heard good things about that Asrock board so that's probably what I'll go with, the Asus is looking pretty good though ha ha. Okay, I saw on reddit that the I225-V is having disconnection issues so I wanted to see which you prefer and if you heard about these issues, Thank you for getting back to me and your help is very much appreciated.
Those MW2 benchmarks are influenced hard by HPET…should be mentioned that running HPET off + dynamictick off gives you +25-30 fps in mw bench…at least on my 7800x3d it does
I haven't disabled HPET manually, but I have a custom windows Revi os install, so I'll have to check and see if it was on or off in my tests just to verify.
In al mazrah, The 13900KS my buddy has gets 285 fps running a specific route. My 7800x3d gets about 313FPS running that exact al mazrah route.
Do keep in mind wz2 is very amd sided, so outside of cod 13900ks will be faster a lot of the times regardless of settings.
I'll let you know if HPET was on or off👍
The second upcoming generation with the Intel's 18A node is the real deal, as long as everything gonna work as planned by Intel. Short waiting till 2025...
I agree. I will definitely be selling my 14900K+mobo and moving over once it arrives👍🙌
14900K from what I’m reading won’t be much of an increase compared to Arrow Lake zen5 will beat the 14th gen intel!
You are right. Basically it'll be +200MHz with increased DDR5 ram support, so most of the gains will be in the ram speed rather than the actual cpu itself.
15th gen will be a brand new platform, allowing them to get far more radical gains.
@@Beefy-Tech yes(: that’s why I’ve been questioning myself if I just want to get the 13900Ks build not 7950x3D build it’s more future proofing right now! But I don’t want to constantly use project laso so I just decided to go with the 13900KS because with the gigabyte next gen X boards and soon to come tachyon X I can run 8000 ram stable (:
@@JQURNEY good call fam! Yeah the 7950x3d is quiet annoying to work with. I switched away from it specifically because even with process lasso it'd still often choose to use cores I didn't want it to use! I'm on a 7800x3d rn, and because the 7800x3d bin I got is good, it's faster than my 7950x3d in warzone 2 even and i get no more of the core setting issues.
@@Beefy-Tech yeah I’ve seen videos comparing the 7800x3D to the 13900K and it was holding its hon and beating it on games that support the 3D vcache do you think it’s worth it to get 7800x3D over the 13900KS ? Since zen5 support is in most motherboards and there rumors talking about 30%pic performance increase right now from @mooreslawisdead
well yes, but 14th gen is coming much sooner. 15th gen will come only a little after zen5 probably
Man fuck me my 13600kf with 5.6ghz still bottenecks tf outta my 7900 XTX which I should have known before buying the XTX… Should I just buy the 14900k after it’s been reviewed or go the 7800x3D? My ram are only 6400Mhz CL32 so very basic there too
Only good way to run a 14900k is with apex mobo + ddr5 8000mhz+ in my opinion...that is obviously very expensive though, so if you'd like a cheaper alternative, go for a 7800X3D + Asus mobo + your current ram kit and you'd gain like 60-80FPS over your current rig once you undervolt the 7800x3d.
@@Beefy-Tech thanks man i'll keep that in mind might upgrader later when I see some sale on these AM5 ITX boards
@@orangecat1596, that's pretty much my plan, wait for black friday sales for 7800x3D + good cooler, a nice mobo, good ram and an extra m.2 drive or two. My intel cpu is way older than yours and I see that grabbing an AM5 board in preparation for zen5 is the way to go without blowing tons of cash on a few intel builds.
Well it didn't. 🙃
interesting
Very much so ;)
Sorry should of metioned beefy that was 5.7 with HT turned on 😂😂😂 478 👍
Good to know, so I'm assuming 5.8 would be 485ish?