Colossal Waste Of Time... 14900K Review.
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2023
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So what I learned is that if I upgrade to this from my 13900k I'll finally stop getting rekt in warzone... Time to finally compete
Pretty sure you can play Warzone with a Pentium 4...lool. Just ribbing.
Thanks for going right for the important question .... 13900KS vs 14900K. Always appreciate your technical analysis nearly no other reviewer goes into.
3 points improvement in single core and 1000 im multi core compared to the 13900ks. Truly generational leap. Congrats intel.
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Wait until you see the 14900ks it will be 4 points mind blowing
Imagine expecting a generational leap on same architecture and same process node 🤣
Such a monumental leap in performance 😂😂
@@eL3ctroz1for another $400 🤣
At this point I don’t know when there’s a new CPU release until Jufes gets one.
Jufes runs my life
“Nothing ever changes” - Jufes
Much appreciated for all the info! I spent a good portion of the day today trying to find any 13900KS vs 14900K comparisons that were out there. The IMC was what I was really the most curious about. You pretty much answered all the questions I had. Looks like I’ll be sticking with my 13900KS. Thanks again.
Yeah the only new benefits of the 14th generation is Wi-Fi 7 and Thunderbolt 5.
HiAll, I want to change my 13900k, because memory controller is pretty bad on this chip and my Mb ASUS z790-I 2 dimms can’t get stable ram more than 7200, booting up to 8000 but not stable. Which chip better to get now 13900ks or 14900k, price have no difference as I will change cpu by microcenter warranty and need to pay just extend warranty for another 2 years. Thanks.
I have a binned 13900KS with a Unify-X which can do 8200 but I need too much voltage on the sticks to get that stable. Would be interesting if either binned ram or the new Apex (would've never even considered the white/silver-ish one) could get me even further but realistically I'm perfectly fine running 8000c34 at reasonable voltages. Wouldn't have ended up with such a great rig without your content, so huge thanks to you and the supporters!
unfortunate
what do you call reasonable voltages? I have also the Unify-X but with 7800mhz 1.40/1.46 because if I go higher my ram temp gets to hot after 30 min and errors out, I swap thermal pads and put a fan on it and still, lancool mesh 3 width good air flow, but man this memories are hot!
@@tacoterito22 maybe you need to cool down the back of the motherboard?
@@imanuelpc I could try but its weird that I have to do that in order to get better temps, but I guess i could, what voltage you need for 8000mhz? maybe its my IMC, i delid it and lap so I dont think its the temp on the memory controller either.
@@tacoterito22 jufus made a video why it helped to cool down the back of it, thats why he says the nzxt h1 case us the best cause it has a 140mm big fan blowing air into the motherboard
so on the long power draw my board sets it to 4096 watts but if lower that to like 325 my temps drop by like 20c is there any real reason to keep the watts that high
You know...I am surprised that you only got 27k subscribers. This channel deserves at least 150k, the content is always straight to the point
cope
Will this need a cpu frame bracket, if so which one would you suggest?
To help mitigate potential stability/degradation widely reported on flagship Raptor lake SKUs, I have changed a lot of my BIOS settings based on what I have watched and read. For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.015v and set the Core limit to 300 Amps. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.
What software are you using to verify the voltage? I'd like to use the same. Thanks king.
Hey Jufes i have a 13900ks and i can xmp at 7800 is that pretty good or normal? I tried xmp 8000 but it was a no post , dont know if im mc limited or mb (tachyon z790) mc is 94 buiscuits
So the consensus is that properly tuned 13900KS (and now 14900K) with 8000 ram or so is still faster than anything from AyyyMD?
New subscriber here. Thanks for the informative video. Considering the negligible improvements made in 14900k, I won't be upgrading my 13900ks anytime soon.
What are the SP numbers exactly? I haven't been into overclocking for a while lol.
I trust a pc/gaming RUclipsr that rocks gym/supplement brands shirts over any of these other nerds on here…
Is there any good oc tool to not having to go bios a 1thousand times?
14th gen is just 13th gen + 1 years worth of improvements to manfuacturing (therefore binning). Slightly higher clocks at the same voltage. Enough dies hitting 13900KS levels of performance, that it doesn't need to be a low volume special SKU now. Less defects in chips, so you can bin out 8+12 as an i7. Meh
Does it make sense to run 14900K with DDR4 (64GB, 4x16, c16)?
How does a z690 have any negative s when using 13900ks ?
Oh, yeah! I thought the kool-aid mascot was going to bust through the motherboard. 😂
The 12900.0.5k saga continues!
@@kramnull8962 Nvidia is in dire need of rewriting their driver since it's not 2009 anymore and software rendering isn't standing the test of time. Also the 7950x3D is as valid as this P core e core bullshit that intel is releasing. The fact that the chips can run a higher ring speed and p core speed when disabling the ecores says a lot, but you're left with a glorified 8 core chip when you do that. You have 16 real cores on the AMD chip even if only 8 of them have 3D v-cache.
@@kramnull8962"DDR6"
No, add quad channel memory support now. No excuses for dual channel if we have 32 threads.
can you test max OC for 2 in 1 gaming x streaming PC for 14900k VS 13900ks
One thing is nice if you want to switch from previous set up and you have at the moment a ddr4 sticks , you need mobo and cpu for now to start with 😅
Brotha, been watching you for quite some time. Mad respect. Joined your community! Keep up the great work
random cod bros: "should I upgrade my 13900ks to 14900k for better FPS on Warzone?"
Optimizers gonna be like: "100%!!!!!!!! I can get you 50 FPS MORE bruh"
HAHAHAHAHAHA
could it handle 4 sticks of ram ? and at what speed
Thanks for the testing! I def won't be upgrading my 13900k anytime soon
does it have av1 encoding is the real question?
My old 13900k SP99 runs 2x24 GB 8000 G.Skill sticks @ 8200 with VDD and VDDQ 1.42v nice and clean with no errors in GSAT or TM5 no problem on low voltages although the Z790 Apex only rates the MC @ 81. Not sure I want to roll the dice again...
Noice!
DDR4 4600mhz for funzies down the track?
Stg I love the for the people vibe I get from you, need more like you bro
Thx for the testing. That's the info, I was looking for! 👍🏻👍🏻
Should I buy a a 13900ks or 14900k there both the same price?
You think upgrading to the 14900ks potentially 6-6.2ghz if they make one from 12900k to stay with ddr4 and z690 mobo for longer worth it and skipping arrow lake socket
The way you applied thermal paste gave me nightmares.
I'm surprised. I think it's great to have one stop shopping on your site. I'm going to wait a bit longer but almost ready to upgrade.
yop ! do you think corsair will release 64gb ram at 8000mhz?
poopoos but can the 14900k run starmid and give me a positive kd on warzone II?
Im having high temperatu ony cpu you know why?
Are you planning on making a new setup recommendation video for intel platform? There are plenty new motherboards coming with 7800-8200 Mhz support. 😊 Interested to see is the platform cost now lower. Ram sticks are atleast cut in half the price recently.
Should I upgrade from a 7800x3d to a 14900k? I have a bad habit of overupgrading if I see a decent deal on a part. I previously had a 13700k . . . .
does it worth upgrade from 12900ks to 14900k? if it is not worth, what is the best OC for 12900ks?
You were the only youtuber that didnt call the 14900k a 13900ks refresh.
Great job!
Man, Jufes referring to himself in the 3rd person when he talks is hilariously psychotic. Thanks for the review dude.
Great vid, straight to the point and exactly what I expected :)
Still, if your on a older chip, it's a cut price 13900ks atleast :)
Im interested in how hot do they run compared to thier 13th gen counterparts.
thank you for the early review and thanks to all the supporters
🐐 Thank you to the supporters and Jufes for making this possible.
What a great video, meanwhile all the people having FOMO about a 14900KS...
Could you do a comparison between 14700k vs 13900k/14900k. I think its the only cpu worth checking out since it is the only new cpu worth testing. Price to performance comparison. Smaller cache less ecores 12 than the i9 16 ecoress since i dont see reviewers compare e-core scaling in gaming.
Because these CPUs are so overkill that games basically don't call the e-cores, there are exceptions like shader compilation and Cyberpunk 2077.
Thanks for this. I've been spending a gruelling 4 days trying to decide if I should return my 13900ks for a 14900k and you have answered it finally for me. The 14900k is slightly improved due to being newer, cheaper so yeah, it makes sense to switch. Thanks.
E cores are up 100mhz on stock although you said its the same. A ks runs 4.3 stock
The other advantage of the 14900k Vs 13900KS is the 14900k is a lot cheaper
They are literally like $30 apart as far as I’m seeing.
Edit :Actually they are like literally the same prices I’m most places
Hey man, I want to build new PC after 10 years. I am wondering should I go with AMD or with Intel? The pc will mainly be used for gaming and unreal engine. Thanks!
@@nivea878 Ok thanks for the reply. I will take your words into concideration.
Pretty much what I expected, been watching for a few years now actually, if he says that’s a 14900K, we can trust that it’s a 14900K
The only benefit in the 14th gen is Intel can say see more than two generations of cpu were compatible with lga1700
love the video man thatnk you for posting a raw review and giving us a realworld review and not some crap
I knew this would be the case but part of me was hoping it would be better. Cool early info.
Non-NDA early reviews are my favorite.
Awesome. Grabbing my 14900K in the morning at Microcenter. Thanks for the video.
price point is amazing, even if they are the same
You'll finally go pro
@@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs ?
@@-Ice_Cold- what you running ?
5950X at 5GHz with EK Quantum Velocity 2 water cooled
ASUS ROG Crosshairs VIII x570 Dark Hero
64Gb ram 4 sticks
RTX 3080 water cooled
420,360,120 radiators with a D5 pump
X2 980 PRO NVMe
X3 SSD 2.5 water cooled
Sound blaster AE-9
The 14900k is priced at the cost of the 13900k, it's 100MHz faster than the 13900KS and runs cooler, though will need some luck with memory controller it seems. If I were in the market now and didn't already have the 13900KS, I would go with the 14900k. That being said, I'm upgrading my 13600k to the 14700k, this was very interesting to see, great video.
Same, will be upgrading 13600K to 14700K, the i5 was mostly a stop gap for me.
Same with the 12700K for myself
Same with 8700K for me :D
what type of brainless person buys 13900ks🤣🤣🤣
I'm still running a 4.9ghz 6700k from 2015 at 200FPS in Apex and Halo. 160FPS in warzone, 300fps in CS2. You don't need to upgrade that often to play games, don't be suckered in.
Is it possible for the 14900k to run 5.9ghz lower than 1.27v?
Press X
no
Jufes, do you think it is worth it to upgrade a 10700k, ddr4 3200c14, 4090 setup to a 14900k? Gaming at mostly 4k and can't tell if there will be any big gains..as always thanks for the info!
At this point wait for next gen
An i7-12700K is already a good upgrade over your chip, but i recommend new Intel gen with Intel 4 process aka TSMC 5nm or 4nm.
Thanks channel supporters and Jufes once again 💪😇👍✊!
Yes keep it rolling dude the fastest reviewer and the most reliable reviewer on the internet
Intel just overclocked the 13900K and repackaged it to call it 14th gen to resell at full price again. Nice double-dipping. lmao
they were doing this for years before Ryzen started taking some of their customers lmao. now they're on top again it comes back lmao.
Well remember the 14900k is stock not delided. Makes a diff. Although he had ecores off and likely hyperthreading which will drastically reduce required voltage. A direct die setup will still be needed to run cpu all cores.
Whats up with the Multi Thread being so low? My 13900k does a 901 Single and 16500+Multi@5.6 all core.
Hi there.
- Windows
@@vincentvega3093He disabled E-cores.
Obviously the thermal paste application skewed the results. Definitely wait in line for this cpu. 😂
Bro, you keep saying you "only get 100Mhz", but that's 100 MILLION hertz (and really 800 million hertz)!
That's mad hertz.
Yeah... you're gonna have mad hurts when your KD doesn't change with this "new" CPU. LOL !!
Love all your work jufes and cant wait till your channel grows even more 🤞🤞
Maybe I’ll be able to compete now!
I have a question that is not related to the 14900.
What are the advantages of using two power supplies in one computer?
And if there are advantages, what is the best way to do it?
you can get a corsair 1000d case it has spot for two motherboard and two power supply, in mine i have a 14900k with a z790 extreme and then a x570 mini itx with a 5950x
I think Intel DLR makes the CPU to use lower voltage
Thanks man! I'll just wait for Arrow Lake. No reason to build new pc on a dead socket anyway.
I'm thinking to upgrade my 11900k for 14700k and platform. Seems to be a good value, the reduce the power draw a lot compared to 12 and 13e gen? Seems like the main point of this gen? Maybe i'm wrong, thank you. Nice vid!
Not worth it.
Keep your 11900K. Not worth it tbh. Its still really good and prob has alot of life left in it.
Since its still Intel 7, 10nm, to be honest I didn't expect this to be even worth an upgrade from my 12900k, lets wait another year for Meteor Lake benchmarks,... a ten potencially yet another year for Arrow Lake 3nm TSMC when things will hopefully get interesting to upgrade from 12900k DDR4 into DDR5 RAM worlds.... The main game for me is Escape from Tarkov, if you have time Jufus would definately welcome if you would add this game to BENCHMARK, you could get not just COD Bros but also EFT Bros on your channel. I was a COD Warzone player before, but I 100% switched to Escape from Tarkov and find it superior in enjoyment. It's very CPU limited game, my 4090 is getting 50-60% utilization so upgrading my CPU/RAM is still very tempting topic for me. I would love to see that 4090 maxed in 1440p Escape from Tarkov.
Escape from Tarkov is very CPU limited because it has been programmed by bad programmers.
Troy Total War Saga is the game i would use for CPU tests.
Straight to the point and honest about it
DUDE THANK YOU SO MUCH
@FrameChasers Can you post a 14900kf affiliate link?
Just need the ASUS APEX Encore now to see if that has any difference.
Great information, definitely save your money. Also, that Zotac AIRO card is soo sexy
Thanks to the supporters for the content!! ❤️
So unfortunately I had to take the 14900kf because the 13900ks was out of stock in my country.
Long story short it runs hot....very hot. Wat kind of undervolt would you suggest to help reduce my temps.
My cooler is the LS720 but yeah...
P.S. I already made the mistake so go easy on me.
I am running the cpu with turbo on and let bios decide on limits. CPU package is running 93 degrees celcius and core temps at 75 to 85 while gaming.
Lastly before you say the cooler is busted, I live in a very hot country where the daily temps can easily climb to 32 to 35 degrees c.
Appreciate the help.
You are a godsend :D this is the information we all wanted best tech channel out there legend :D
NGL had to take a second look at that logo😂
bro u got a good bin, my friends only get around 92-94 both on retail and sample
Why don`t test 14700k/900k with DDR4 on 4400+ vs DDR5 7200+
found your channel a while ago great video again
I love how this guy can summarize the silicon quality with jokes in just a few minutes, and leave almost no stone unturned.
I even love all the shitting on AMD, haha. (I'm 100% amd.)
Great review man. Good stuff
I gotta say your taking full advantage of the situation, I hope it works out well for you financially! Go Jufes
Can you explain that to me?
Why aren't you watching LTT?
why wouldn't he?
@@OVERKILL_PINBALL Why would you do that?
@@selmevias1383 I wouldn't.. but the original commenter may want to
I guessed the same thing, but you missed one very important detail...it's CHEAPER than a 13900ks. Prospectively it's ~$140 cheaper. I was thinking about buying a 13900ks, so looks like I saved some money by waiting.
they're the same price
@@gozutheDJ I'm currently seeing a price of ~$680 on the ks.... It was $729 a few weeks ago.
It's standard for CPU prices to dwindle at the same performance target. Could you imagine trying to sell an i7 870 for $305 today? Your CEO would step down lmao.
@@fredygump5578 they must have just dropped the KS price
@@gozutheDJks still goes for 700 in the us at the moment so a 14900k is a viable option for many of us. I am in ohio btw
Asus is the one major brand that provides an SP score based on the parameters between voltage and clock speeds. Aka, how much voltage is needed to run the CPU at the desired clocks. Every CPU has a different score. This is why the term silicone lottery exists and how Intel cherry picks their chips for their sponsors. 1.433v out of box is a poor grade CPU with little to no room for stable overclocking/undervolting. I'm sorry my guy but you did not get lucky with this CPU. i9 CPUs are a gamble and for those willing to pay the cost for a potential golden ticket. Basically, do not consider an i9 unless you know how to contain it for stable use because chances are, it might not be stable out of box as advertised. May the odds ever be in your favor.
i need to see what the i5's and i7's can do before i write this gen off completely. so far this doesn't seem like a refresh, its more of a rename.
They've just renamed the 13900ks to 14900k 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 great video as always 👍
Corsair is so clever dropping the new Dom Titaniums at the same time.
The 14900K is product for a precise market segment, which would be owners of 12900K and a "filler" for PC wholesalers such as Dell and others. I am the owner of a 12900K and just upgraded to a 14900K and I am quite pleased with it. Tuned it to a daily driver of 6.1Ghz P-Cores and 4.5Ghz E-Cores. All this mega electrical consumption isn't that much of a problem if you set C-States to C0/C1. In games (Starfield) it bounces between 5.9 and 6.1 respectively with a consumption of 157 watts, not the 300+ everyone is saying. I was able to take it to 6.4Ghz but I don't have enough cooling (Not stable) but was able to get a Cinebench single thread score of 144 which beats AMD's upcoming 8950X. The way I see it you are getting 13900KS performance without the price plus they toss in APO and XTU(AI) bonus. P.S. This thing will hit a 1009 Score in single thread and 17886 multi thread bench in CPU-Z, I know its not the best benchmarking tool but its always fun.
this is the best gaming-tec channel on youtube, period.
This was awesome!! Thanks for the info!